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Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. (NASDAQ:ESTA) Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call August 7, 2025 8:30 AM ET Company Participants Fillipo Peter Caldini - CEO & Director Rajbir Singh Denhoy - Chief Financial Officer Conference Call Participants Anthony Charles Petrone - Mizuho Americas LLC Joshua Thomas Jennings - TD Cowen, Research Division K. Gong - JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Mason Owen Carrico - Stephens Inc., Research Division Matthew Charles Taylor - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Mike Matson - Unidentified Company Sam Shimon Eiber - BTIG, LLC, Research Division Operator Good morning. Welcome to Establishment Labs' Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. | Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. (NASDAQ:ESTA) 2025λ
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[Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Raj Denhoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Rajbir Singh Denhoy Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us. With me today is Peter Caldini, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These include statements on Establishment Labs' financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. | [μ΄μμ μλ΄] μ°Έκ³ λ‘ μ€λ ν΅νλ λ
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These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For a discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to review our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q as well as other SEC filings, which are available on our website at establishlabs.com. | μ΄λ¬ν λ―Έλ μ λ§ μ§μ μ κ²½μμ§μ νμ¬ κΈ°λμ κΈ°λ°νκ³ μμΌλ©° μνκ³Ό λΆνμ€μ±μ μλ°ν©λλ€. λΉμ¬μ μ€μ μ μν₯μ λ―ΈμΉκ±°λ μ€μ κ²°κ³Όκ° μ΄λ¬ν μ§μ κ³Ό μ€λνκ² λ€λ₯Ό μ μλ μ£Όμ μν μμΈκ³Ό λΆνμ€μ±μ λν λ Όμλ₯Ό μν΄, λΉμ¬ μΉμ¬μ΄νΈ establishlabs.comμμ νμΈνμ€ μ μλ μ΅μ μ°κ° λ° λΆκΈ° λ³΄κ³ μμΈ Form 10-K λ° Form 10-Q, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κΈ°ν SEC μ μΆ μλ₯λ₯Ό κ²ν ν΄ μ£ΌμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. |
I'd also like to remind you that our comments may include certain non-GAAP financial measures with respect to our performance, including, but not limited to sales results, which can be stated on a constant currency basis or profitability of the company's business, which can be stated as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures for non-GAAP measures, if available, may be found in today's press release, which is available on our website. The content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, August 7, 2025. | λν μ ν¬μ λ°μΈμλ λΉμ¬μ μ€μ κ³Ό κ΄λ ¨νμ¬ νΉμ λΉGAAP μ¬λ¬΄ μ§νκ° ν¬ν¨λ μ μμμ λ§μλ립λλ€. μ΄μλ κ³ μ νμ¨ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ νμλ μ μλ λ§€μΆ μ€μ μ΄λ EBITDA λλ μ‘°μ EBITDAλ‘ νμλ μ μλ νμ¬ μ¬μ μ μμ΅μ± λ±μ΄ ν¬ν¨λλ μ΄μ κ΅νλμ§ μμ΅λλ€. λΉGAAP μ§νμ λν λΉκ΅ κ°λ₯ν GAAP μ¬λ¬΄ μ§νμμ μ‘°μ νλ κ°λ₯ν κ²½μ° λΉμ¬ μΉμ¬μ΄νΈμμ νμΈν μ μλ μ€λμ 보λμλ£μμ μ°Ύμλ³΄μ€ μ μμ΅λλ€. λ³Έ 컨νΌλ°μ€ μ½μ λ΄μ©μ μκ°μ λ―Όκ°ν μ 보λ₯Ό ν¬ν¨νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ΄λ 2025λ 8μ 7μΌ μ€μκ° λ°©μ‘ λ μ§ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘λ§ μ νν©λλ€. |
Except as required by law, Establishment Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statement to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Peter. Fillipo Peter Caldini Thank you, Raj. Revenue in the second quarter totaled $51.3 million, a growth of 16% over last year. Our second quarter sales included $10.3 million in the United States, exceeding the $9.5 million to $10 million range we provided at our Investor Day in early June. With Q2 behind us, we can now comfortably say that our U.S. revenue will exceed $40 million. | λ²μ μΌλ‘ μꡬλλ κ²½μ°λ₯Ό μ μΈνκ³ , Establishment Labsλ λ³Έ 컨νΌλ°μ€μ½ μΌμ μ΄νμ μ¬κ±΄μ΄λ μν©μ λ°μνμ¬ μ΄λ ν μ§μ λ μμ νκ±°λ μ
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And with this clarity, we are raising our revenue guidance to $208 million to $212 million for a growth of 25% to 28%. It's also worth noting that our U.S. sales momentum has carried into Q3, and we are expecting sequential growth from Q2 to Q3 in the United States despite the traditional Q3 lull in plastic surgeries. We continue to make good progress on improving our operating profitability and cash flow. Our adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $8.5 million, an improvement from the $12.1 million in the first quarter. Our cash use fell to $14.5 million from $21.2 million last quarter. As discussed in our Q1 call, we expect cash use to reduce by approximately $5 million each quarter. | μ΄λ¬ν λͺ νμ±μ λ°νμΌλ‘ λΉμ¬λ λ§€μΆ κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό 2μ΅ 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 2μ΅ 1,200λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ μν₯ μ‘°μ νλ©°, μ΄λ 25%μμ 28%μ μ±μ₯λ₯ μ λνλ λλ€. λν μ£Όλͺ©ν μ μ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ λ§€μΆ λͺ¨λ©ν μ΄ 3λΆκΈ°κΉμ§ μ΄μ΄μ§κ³ μμΌλ©°, μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ μ μ ν΅μ μΈ 3λΆκΈ° λΉμκΈ°μλ λΆκ΅¬νκ³ λ―Έκ΅μμ 2λΆκΈ° λλΉ 3λΆκΈ° μμ°¨μ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λνκ³ μλ€λ κ²μ λλ€. λΉμ¬λ μμ μμ΅μ±κ³Ό νκΈνλ¦ κ°μ μμ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μνΈν μ§μ μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ² λΆκΈ° μ‘°μ EBITDA μμ€μ 850λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘, 1λΆκΈ°μ 1,210λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ κ°μ λμμ΅λλ€. νκΈ μ¬μ©μ‘μ μ§λ λΆκΈ° 2,120λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 1,450λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ κ°μνμ΅λλ€. 1λΆκΈ° 컨νΌλ°μ€ μ½μμ λ Όμν λ°μ κ°μ΄, νκΈ μ¬μ©μ‘μ λΆκΈ°λ§λ€ μ½ 500λ§ λ¬λ¬μ© κ°μν κ²μΌλ‘ μμλ©λλ€. |
Our U.S. business continues to do exceedingly well. We have assembled a best-in-class organization in the U.S. under the leadership of Jeff Ehrhardt, and we're seeing the results. Our team has successfully leveraged the superior product benefits of Motiva to drive account acquisition and the number of procedures continues to exceed our expectations. We are executing at a high level and should achieve a leadership position in the market. Outside the U.S., our results are improving as well. Growth in our direct markets has been a major focus for our team as we manage these markets within our own organization and have greater economics. | λ―Έκ΅ μ¬μ μ κ³μν΄μ λ§€μ° μ°μν μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. Jeff Ehrhardtμ 리λμ νμ λ―Έκ΅μμ μ΅κ³ μμ€μ μ‘°μ§μ ꡬμΆνμΌλ©°, κ·Έ κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό νμΈνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ ν¬ νμ Motivaμ μ°μν μ ν μ΄μ μ μ±κ³΅μ μΌλ‘ νμ©νμ¬ κ³ κ° ν보λ₯Ό μΆμ§νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μμ 건μλ κ³μν΄μ μ ν¬ κΈ°λμΉλ₯Ό μννκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ ν¬λ λμ μμ€μμ μ€ννκ³ μμΌλ©° μμ₯μμ μ λμ μ§μλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ μμλ©λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμλ μ ν¬ μ€μ μ΄ κ°μ λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ§μ κ΄λ¦¬ μμ₯μμμ μ±μ₯μ μ ν¬ νμ μ£Όμ μ§μ€ λΆμΌμμΌλ©°, μ΄λ¬ν μμ₯λ€μ μ체 μ‘°μ§ λ΄μμ κ΄λ¦¬νλ©΄μ λ λμ μμ΅μ±μ ν보νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
We have restructured the OUS organization, reallocated resources and applied improved operational processes to support our direct markets. We're already seeing the benefits of these changes. Excluding the benefit of currency and the acquisition of the Benelux distributor, our European direct market sales increased by approximately 27% this quarter. This reflects a new sales record, and we believe these trends will continue. There is good early demand for PreservΓ©, Mia is tracking to plan, and we're seeing an increase in the number of accounts in which we sell, all very good signs for our trajectory. There is certainly continued areas for improvement. | ν΄μΈ(OUS) μ‘°μ§μ μ¬κ΅¬μ±νκ³ μμμ μ¬λ°°λΆνλ©° κ°μ λ μ΄μ νλ‘μΈμ€λ₯Ό μ μ©νμ¬ μ§μ μμ₯μ μ§μνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν λ³νμ ν¨κ³Όλ₯Ό μ΄λ―Έ νμΈνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ¨ ν¨κ³Όμ λ² λ€λ£©μ€ μ ν΅μ 체 μΈμ ν¨κ³Όλ₯Ό μ μΈνκ³ λ, μ΄λ² λΆκΈ° μ λ½ μ§μ μμ₯ λ§€μΆμ΄ μ½ 27% μ¦κ°νμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ μλ‘μ΄ λ§€μΆ κΈ°λ‘μ λνλ΄λ©°, μ΄λ¬ν μΆμΈκ° μ§μλ κ²μΌλ‘ λ―Ώκ³ μμ΅λλ€. PreservΓ©μ λν μ΄κΈ° μμκ° μνΈνκ³ , Miaλ κ³νλλ‘ μ§νλκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ ν¬κ° νλ§€νλ κ±°λμ² μκ° μ¦κ°νκ³ μμ΄ λͺ¨λ μ ν¬ μ±μ₯ κΆ€λμ λ§€μ° μ’μ μ νΈμ λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ κ°μ ν΄μΌ ν μμλ€μ΄ μμ΅λλ€. |
For example, China has been affected by a number of factors, and that is a particular focus for the team. We are working with our distribution partner and their investor to ensure success in China. Motiva is the leading implant across Asia, and we expect to achieve the same position in China. On the operational side, we are focusing our resources on the areas with the most financial potential like the U.S. and our minimally invasive portfolio. And we're reducing expenses in other areas that we can operate as efficiently as possible. This can be seen in the improvement in the EBITDA and cash use we posted this quarter. | μλ₯Ό λ€μ΄, μ€κ΅μ μ¬λ¬ μμΈλ€μ μν₯μ λ°κ³ μμΌλ©°, μ΄λ νμ νΉλ³ν κ΄μ¬μ¬μ λλ€. μ°λ¦¬λ μ€κ΅μμμ μ±κ³΅μ 보μ₯νκΈ° μν΄ μ ν΅ ννΈλ λ° κ·Έλ€μ ν¬μμμ νλ ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. Motivaλ μμμ μ μμμ μ λμ μΈ μνλνΈμ΄λ©°, μ€κ΅μμλ λμΌν μ§μλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ κΈ°λν©λλ€. μ΄μ μΈ‘λ©΄μμλ λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ κ°μ΄ μ¬λ¬΄μ μ μ¬λ ₯μ΄ κ°μ₯ ν° μμμ μμμ μ§μ€νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ°λ₯ν ν ν¨μ¨μ μΌλ‘ μ΄μν μ μλ λ€λ₯Έ μμμμλ λΉμ©μ μ κ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ μ΄λ² λΆκΈ°μ λ°νν EBITDAμ νκΈ μ¬μ©λ κ°μ μμ νμΈν μ μμ΅λλ€. |
We expect our first positive EBITDA quarter later this year and remain on track to be cash flow breakeven in 2026. As noted, our progress in the United States is tracking well ahead of plan. At our investor meeting in June, we confirmed we had reached 1,000 accounts in the U.S., and that number continues to grow. It is important to remember, there's a difference between procedure share and surgeon share. While there are about 6,500 board-certified plastic surgeons in active practice, a much smaller percentage are responsible for the vast majority of the breast augmentation and revision procedures done each year. | μ ν¬λ μ¬ν΄ λ§ μ²« λ²μ§Έ EBITDA νμ λΆκΈ°λ₯Ό μμνκ³ μμΌλ©°, 2026λ νκΈνλ¦ μμ΅λΆκΈ°μ λ¬μ± λͺ©νλ₯Ό μμ‘°λ‘κ² μ§ννκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΈκΈν λ°μ κ°μ΄, λ―Έκ΅μμμ μ§μ μ κ³νλ³΄λ€ ν¨μ¬ μμ λκ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. 6μ ν¬μμ λ―Έν μμ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ 1,000κ° κ³μ μ λ¬μ±νλ€κ³ νμΈνμΌλ©°, μ΄ μμΉλ κ³μ μ¦κ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμ μ μ μ¨κ³Ό μΈκ³Όμ μ μ μ¨ κ°μλ μ°¨μ΄κ° μλ€λ μ μ κΈ°μ΅νλ κ²μ΄ μ€μν©λλ€. μ½ 6,500λͺ μ μ λ¬Έμ μ격μ κ°μΆ μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ¬λ€μ΄ νλ°ν μ§λ£νκ³ μμ§λ§, μ΄ μ€ ν¨μ¬ μ μ λΉμ¨μ μμ¬λ€μ΄ λ§€λ μνλλ μ λ°©νλμ λ° μ¬μμ μ λλΆλΆμ λ΄λΉνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
So to put that in perspective, if the 1,000-plus accounts we currently have were to fully adopt Motiva, we would have approximately 50% of the breast augmentation market in the United States. The most important factor in increasing surgeon utilization is time and surgeons getting comfortable with the Motiva implant. Once a surgeon gets introduced to Motiva, they follow a typical adoption curve, completing a few cases at first and then waiting to see the results. Once past that, they will start building Motiva into their consultations. But remember, a busy plastic surgeon could be booking cases out for 6 months. | μ΄λ₯Ό ꡬ체μ μΌλ‘ μ€λͺ νλ©΄, νμ¬ λ³΄μ νκ³ μλ 1,000κ° μ΄μμ κ³μ μ΄ Motivaλ₯Ό μμ ν λμ νλ€λ©΄, λ―Έκ΅ μ λ°© νλμ μμ₯μ μ½ 50%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§νκ² λ κ²μ λλ€. μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ νμ©λλ₯Ό λμ΄λ κ°μ₯ μ€μν μμΈμ μκ°κ³Ό μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ΄ Motiva μνλνΈμ μ΅μν΄μ§λ κ²μ λλ€. μΈκ³Όμμ¬κ° Motivaλ₯Ό μ²μ μ νκ² λλ©΄, μΌλ°μ μΈ λμ 곑μ μ λ°λ₯΄κ² λ©λλ€. μ²μμλ λͺ 건μ μμ μ μλ£ν ν κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό μ§μΌλ³΄λ λ¨κ³λ₯Ό κ±°μΉ©λλ€. μ΄ λ¨κ³λ₯Ό μ§λλ©΄, μλ΄ κ³Όμ μμ Motivaλ₯Ό μ κ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ ν¬ν¨μν€κΈ° μμν©λλ€. νμ§λ§ λ°μ μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ¬μ κ²½μ° μμ μμ½μ΄ 6κ°μκΉμ§ λ°λ €μμ μ μλ€λ μ μ κΈ°μ΅ν΄μΌ ν©λcalls. |
Further, it's likely that a plastic surgeon will build Motiva into their practice over time. So what starts as 2 initial cases could become 25% of their business after 4 months and then 50% after 6 months. This is what we're seeing. In short, while some plastic surgeons move their practice to 90% plus or minus Motiva immediately, most take several quarters to get comfortable and to work through previous consultations where a different implant was already selected. Our team is very focused on high-volume practices as well as industry leaders. Whereas industry leaders used to be defined as the key opinion lea ng quite a bit broader today. | λν, μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ¬λ€μ μκ°μ΄ μ§λλ©΄μ μ μ§μ μΌλ‘ Motivaλ₯Ό μμ μ μ§λ£μ λμ ν κ°λ₯μ±μ΄ λμ΅λλ€. μ²μμ 2건μ μΌμ΄μ€λ‘ μμνλ κ²μ΄ 4κ°μ νμλ μ 체 μ 무μ 25%κ° λκ³ , 6κ°μ νμλ 50%κ° λ μ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ μ°λ¦¬κ° λͺ©κ²©νκ³ μλ νμμ λλ€. μμ½νμλ©΄, μΌλΆ μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ¬λ€μ μ¦μ μμ μ μ§λ£λ₯Ό 90% λ΄μΈλ‘ Motivaλ‘ μ ννλ λ°λ©΄, λλΆλΆμ μ΅μν΄μ§κ³ μ΄λ―Έ λ€λ₯Έ μνλνΈκ° μ νλ κΈ°μ‘΄ μλ΄ κ±΄λ€μ μ²λ¦¬νλ λ° λͺ λΆκΈ°κ° 걸립λλ€. μ°λ¦¬ νμ κ³ μ©λ μ§λ£μλΏλ§ μλλΌ μ κ³ λ¦¬λλ€μκ²λ λ§€μ° μ§μ€νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ³Όκ±°μλ μ κ³ λ¦¬λλ€μ΄ ν΅μ¬ μ€νΌλμΈ λ¦¬λλ‘ μ μλμλ λ°λ©΄, μ€λλ μλ μλΉν λ κ΄λ²μνκ² μ μλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
There is a new group of surgeons whose podium is social media through platforms like Instagram and TikTok. Establishment Labs is attracting surgeons and patients through our digital and social media efforts, and we're seeing the results. Surgeons consistently tell us that ders who spoke frequently on podiums at conferences, it means some of these patients regularly come in asking for Motiva implants by name, something they have not seen before in the industry. Surgeons also tell us that patients are walking away from the competitor warranties that cover their previous surgeries, instead opting to pay for Motiva implants rather than get replacement implants for free. | 컨νΌλ°μ€ μ°λ¨μμ μμ£Ό λ°ννλ κΈ°μ‘΄ μμ¬λ€κ³Ό λ¬λ¦¬, μΈμ€νκ·Έλ¨κ³Ό ν±ν‘ κ°μ νλ«νΌμ ν΅ν΄ μμ λ―Έλμ΄λ₯Ό μ°λ¨μΌλ‘ μΌλ μλ‘μ΄ μΈκ³Όμμ¬ κ·Έλ£Ήμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. Establishment Labsλ λμ§νΈ λ° μμ λ―Έλμ΄ λ Έλ ₯μ ν΅ν΄ μΈκ³Όμμ¬μ νμλ€μ λμ΄λ€μ΄κ³ μμΌλ©°, κ·Έ κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ νμλ€μ΄ μ κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ Motiva μνλνΈλ₯Ό μ΄λ¦μΌλ‘ μ§μ νμ¬ μμ²νλ©° λ΄μνλ€κ³ λ§νκ³ μλλ°, μ΄λ μ κ³μμ μ΄μ μ λ³Έ μ μ΄ μλ νμμ λλ€. μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ λν νμλ€μ΄ μ΄μ μμ μ 보μ₯νλ κ²½μμ¬μ 보μ¦μ ν¬κΈ°νκ³ , λμ 무λ£λ‘ κ΅μ²΄ μνλνΈλ₯Ό λ°λ κ²λ³΄λ€ Motiva μνλνΈμ λΉμ©μ μ§λΆνλ κ²μ μ ννλ€κ³ λ§ν©λλ€. |
This behavior is unprecedented in the aesthetics and medical device industry. Our team continues to add high-volume practices and industry leaders, making Motiva implants more and more available across America. Early data suggests that surgeons who offer Motiva implants are seeing an increase in their business. In other words, as patients carefully choose their surgeon, a new factor in their decision process is the availability of Motiva. Our efforts are working. As of this call, the growth trajectory continues. Orders have increased each month from April through June, and that trend has continued into the third quarter. | μ΄λ¬ν νλμ λ―Έμ© λ° μλ£κΈ°κΈ° μ κ³μμ μ λ‘κ° μλ μΌμ λλ€. μ ν¬ νμ κ³μν΄μ λμ©λ μ§λ£μλ€κ³Ό μ κ³ λ¦¬λλ€μ μΆκ°νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ΄λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ λͺ¨ν°λ° μνλνΈλ₯Ό λ―Έκ΅ μ μμμ λμ± λ리 μ΄μ©ν μ μκ² νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄κΈ° λ°μ΄ν°μ λ°λ₯΄λ©΄ λͺ¨ν°λ° μνλνΈλ₯Ό μ 곡νλ μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ μ¬μ μ΄ μ¦κ°νκ³ μλ κ²μΌλ‘ λνλ¬μ΅λλ€. λ€μ λ§ν΄, νμλ€μ΄ μ μ€νκ² μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ₯Ό μ νν λ, κ·Έλ€μ κ²°μ κ³Όμ μμ μλ‘μ΄ μμλ λͺ¨ν°λ°μ μ΄μ© κ°λ₯μ±μ λλ€. μ ν¬μ λ Έλ ₯μ΄ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό κ±°λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ² 컨νΌλ°μ€μ½ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘, μ±μ₯ κΆ€λλ κ³μλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ£Όλ¬Έλμ 4μλΆν° 6μκΉμ§ λ§€μ μ¦κ°νμΌλ©°, μ΄λ¬ν μΆμΈλ 3λΆκΈ°μλ μ§μλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
As such, we expect to see sequential growth in the third quarter, a period that is seasonally down for the industry. Continued growth in our core business should continue for many years, and our robust pipeline should add to that growth as well. Our ultimate goal is to have surgeons prefer our implants in all their cases, and our pipeline should help get us there. In early 2026, we should have expanded range of sizes approved by the FDA, and this will help drive utilization as well as new surgeons to our products. This is just the start of a cycle of innovation we'll bring to the U.S. | μ΄μ λ°λΌ μ κ³μμ κ³μ μ μΌλ‘ λΆμ§ν μκΈ°μΈ 3λΆκΈ°μλ μμ°¨μ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. ν΅μ¬ μ¬μ μ μ§μμ μΈ μ±μ₯μ ν₯ν μλ κ° κ³μλ κ²μ΄λ©°, ννν νμ΄νλΌμΈ λν μ΄λ¬ν μ±μ₯μ κΈ°μ¬ν κ²μ λλ€. μ ν¬μ κΆκ·Ήμ μΈ λͺ©νλ μΈκ³Όμλ€μ΄ λͺ¨λ μμ μμ μ ν¬ μνλνΈλ₯Ό μ νΈνλλ‘ νλ κ²μ΄λ©°, νμ΄νλΌμΈμ΄ μ΄λ¬ν λͺ©ν λ¬μ±μ λμμ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. 2026λ μ΄μλ FDA μΉμΈμ λ°μ νμ₯λ μ¬μ΄μ¦ λ²μλ₯Ό 보μ νκ² λ μμ μ΄λ©°, μ΄λ νμ©λ μ¦κ°μ ν¨κ» μλ‘μ΄ μΈκ³Όμλ€μ μ ν¬ μ νμΌλ‘ μ μΉνλ λ° λμμ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. μ΄λ μ ν¬κ° λ―Έκ΅μ κ°μ Έμ¬ νμ μ¬μ΄ν΄μ μμμ λΆκ³Όν©λλ€. |
market over the next couple of years, led by our minimally invasive portfolio as well as our efforts in reconstruction. In July, we hosted 36 U.S. plastic surgeons in Costa Rica to introduce them to PreservΓ©. PreservΓ© is an advanced, less invasive breast enhancement technique designed specifically to preserve natural breast tissue functionality, including nipple sensation and chest muscles. It also provides for a fast post-procedure recovery. | ν₯ν λͺ λ κ° μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ μ¬κ±΄ λΆμΌμμμ λ Έλ ₯μ ν΅ν΄ λ―Έμ© μμ₯μμ μ§μμ μΈ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. 7μμλ λ―Έκ΅ μ±νμΈκ³Ό μμ¬ 36λͺ μ μ½μ€νλ¦¬μΉ΄λ‘ μ΄μ²νμ¬ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό μκ°νμ΅λλ€. PreservΓ©λ μ λ κ°κ°κ³Ό νκ·Όμ ν¬ν¨ν μμ° μ λ°© μ‘°μ§μ κΈ°λ₯μ 보쑴νλλ‘ νΉλ³ν μ€κ³λ μ§λ³΄λ μ μΉ¨μ΅ μ λ°© νλ κΈ°μ μ λλ€. λν μμ ν λΉ λ₯Έ ν볡μ μ 곡ν©λλ€. |
The PreservΓ© procedure is designed to be performed with minimal anesthesia and uses the Motiva channel separator to create a tunnel without cutting any tissue and the Motiva inflatable balloon, which gently pushes the tissue structure aside to create a precise pocket that matches the size and creates space for the breast implant. Many surgeons who attended commented for the first time in decades, there is a fundamentally different way to perform breast augmentation surgery. PreservΓ© is not just a way to do an existing procedure differently, it is an entirely new procedure with real advantages for many patients. | PreservΓ© μμ μ μ΅μνμ λ§μ·¨λ‘ μνλλλ‘ μ€κ³λμμΌλ©°, Motiva μ±λ λΆλ¦¬κΈ°λ₯Ό μ¬μ©νμ¬ μ‘°μ§μ μ κ°νμ§ μκ³ ν°λμ λ§λ€κ³ , Motiva ν½μ°½μ νμ μ μ¬μ©νμ¬ μ‘°μ§ κ΅¬μ‘°λ₯Ό λΆλλ½κ² λ°μ΄λ΄μ΄ μ λ°© μνλνΈμ ν¬κΈ°μ λ§λ μ νν ν¬μΌμ λ§λ€κ³ 곡κ°μ ν보ν©λλ€. μ°Έμν λ§μ μΈκ³Όμλ€μ μμ λ λ§μ μ²μμΌλ‘ μ λ°©νλμ μ μννλ κ·Όλ³Έμ μΌλ‘ λ€λ₯Έ λ°©λ²μ΄ μλ€κ³ μΈκΈνμ΅λλ€. PreservΓ©λ κΈ°μ‘΄ μμ μ λ€λ₯΄κ² μννλ λ°©λ²μ΄ μλλΌ, λ§μ νμλ€μκ² μ€μ§μ μΈ μ₯μ μ μ 곡νλ μμ ν μλ‘μ΄ μμ μ λλ€. |
The reception from surgeons who are part of this training has been overwhelmingly positive. It's hard to overstate how meaningful it was to bring together this specific group of surgeons, which not only included some of the highest volume surgeons in the United States, but also current and past leaders of major plastic surgeon societies. If you haven't, I would recommend following some of their social media. Their enthusiasm and content is already changing the narrative and conversation around breast implants. We expect to begin shipping in August so that the early experience group can perform their first PreservΓ© cases. | μ΄ κ΅μ‘μ μ°Έμ¬ν μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ λ°μμ μλμ μΌλ‘ κΈμ μ μ΄μμ΅λλ€. μ΄ νΉλ³ν μΈκ³Όμμ¬ κ·Έλ£Ήμ νμ리μ λͺ¨μ κ²μ΄ μΌλ§λ μλ―Έ μλ μΌμ΄μλμ§ μ무리 κ°μ‘°ν΄λ μ§λμΉμ§ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄ κ·Έλ£Ήμλ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μ΅κ³ μμ λμ μλνλ μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€λΏλ§ μλλΌ μ£Όμ μ±νμΈκ³Ό ννμ νμ§ λ° μ μ§ λ¦¬λλ€λ ν¬ν¨λμ΄ μμμ΅λλ€. μμ§ λ³΄μ§ μμΌμ ¨λ€λ©΄ μ΄λ€μ μμ λ―Έλμ΄λ₯Ό νλ‘μ°νμκΈ°λ₯Ό κΆν©λλ€. μ΄λ€μ μ΄μ κ³Ό μ½ν μΈ λ μ΄λ―Έ μ λ°© μνλνΈμ λν λ΄λ‘ κ³Ό λνμ λ°©ν₯μ λ°κΎΈκ³ μμ΅λλ€. 8μλΆν° μΆνλ₯Ό μμνμ¬ μ΄κΈ° κ²½ν κ·Έλ£Ήμ΄ μ²« λ²μ§Έ PreservΓ© μΌμ΄μ€λ₯Ό μνν μ μλλ‘ ν μμ μ λλ€. |
We will collect their feedback to support the launch of PreservΓ© in the U.S., which we anticipate will be in the first half of 2026. We expect PreservΓ© to command a premium, which will not only add to gross margins, but also expand our TAM on a dollar basis as well. PreservΓ© highlights perhaps the most important point. All the technological advancement that has gone into Motiva implants allows for new procedures and techniques that were previously technically inadvisable with competitor devices. For example, we've seen a rise in the use of prefectoral implant procedures, which can offer more natural outcomes and faster recovery time. | λ―Έκ΅μμμ PreservΓ© μΆμλ₯Ό μ§μνκΈ° μν΄ κ³ κ°λ€μ νΌλλ°±μ μμ§ν μμ μ΄λ©°, μΆμ μκΈ°λ 2026λ μλ°κΈ°λ‘ μμνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. PreservΓ©λ ν리미μ κ°κ²©μ νμ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ μμλλ©°, μ΄λ λ§€μΆμ΄μ΄μ΅λ₯ μ λμΌ λΏλ§ μλλΌ λ¬λ¬ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ μ 체 μμ₯ κ·λͺ¨(TAM)λ νλν κ²μ λλ€. PreservΓ©λ μλ§λ κ°μ₯ μ€μν μ μ λΆκ°μν΅λλ€. Motiva μνλνΈμ μ μ©λ λͺ¨λ κΈ°μ μ μ§λ³΄λ κ²½μμ¬ μ νμΌλ‘λ κΈ°μ μ μΌλ‘ κΆμ₯λμ§ μμλ μλ‘μ΄ μμ κ³Ό κΈ°λ²μ κ°λ₯νκ² ν©λλ€. μλ₯Ό λ€μ΄, λ³΄λ€ μμ°μ€λ¬μ΄ κ²°κ³Όμ λΉ λ₯Έ ν볡 μκ°μ μ 곡ν μ μλ λνκ·Όμ μνλνΈ μμ μ μ¬μ©μ΄ μ¦κ°νλ κ²μ νμΈνμ΅λλ€. |
This has dovetailed nicely with the increasing interest in smaller implants, a trend that was covered recently in the article of Wall Street Journal. While Motiva implants have clear benefits across the board in breast procedures, the use of smaller implants in prefectoral positions is a segment which Motiva is uniquely able to support. In breast reconstruction, our Flora tissue expander is now in use at over 90 hospitals in the United States with more being added every month. For Motiva implants in reconstruction, we are close to completing the 3-year follow-up in this cohort. | μ΄λ μ΅κ·Ό μμ€νΈλ¦¬νΈ μ λ κΈ°μ¬μμ λ€λ€μ§ μν μνλνΈμ λν κ΄μ¬ μ¦κ°μ μ λ§μλ¨μ΄μ§κ³ μμ΅λλ€. Motiva μνλνΈλ μ λ°© μμ μ λ°μ κ±Έμ³ λͺ νν μ₯μ μ κ°μ§κ³ μμ§λ§, λνκ·Όμ μμΉμμμ μν μνλνΈ μ¬μ©μ Motivaκ° λ 보μ μΌλ‘ μ§μν μ μλ λΆμΌμ λλ€. μ λ°©μ¬κ±΄ λΆμΌμμλ μ ν¬ Flora μ‘°μ§νμ₯κΈ°κ° νμ¬ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ 90κ° μ΄μμ λ³μμμ μ¬μ©λκ³ μμΌλ©°, λ§€μ λ λ§μ λ³μμ΄ μΆκ°λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ λ°©μ¬κ±΄μμμ Motiva μνλνΈμ κ²½μ°, ν΄λΉ μ½νΈνΈμμ 3λ μΆμ κ΄μ°°μ κ±°μ μλ£νλ λ¨κ³μ μμ΅λλ€. |
We will lock the database for a supplement in September and expect to submit for approval and reconstruction before the end of the year. Outside the U.S., we saw sequential growth in all our geographic regions in the second quarter. As I indicated previously, we have taken a number of actions to improve the performance of our direct markets. We are seeing the benefit of these activities. And as previously noted, our European direct markets grew approximately 27% versus last year. Core markets like the U.K., Spain, Germany were key drivers for that growth. | 9μμ 보μ μλ£λ₯Ό μν λ°μ΄ν°λ² μ΄μ€λ₯Ό μ κΈ μ²λ¦¬ν μμ μ΄λ©°, μ°λ§ μ΄μ μ μΉμΈ λ° μ¬κ΅¬μ±μ μν μ μ²μλ₯Ό μ μΆν κ²μΌλ‘ μμν©λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμλ 2λΆκΈ°μ λͺ¨λ μ§μμμ μμ°¨μ μ±μ₯μ 보μμ΅λλ€. μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ ν¬λ μ§μ μμ₯μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό κ°μ νκΈ° μν΄ μ¬λ¬ μ‘°μΉλ₯Ό μ·¨νμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν νλμ ν¨κ³Όλ₯Ό νμΈνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄μ μ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬ μ λ½ μ§μ μμ₯μ μλ λλΉ μ½ 27% μ±μ₯νμ΅λλ€. μκ΅, μ€νμΈ, λ μΌκ³Ό κ°μ ν΅μ¬ μμ₯λ€μ΄ μ΄λ¬ν μ±μ₯μ μ£Όμ λλ ₯μ΄μμ΅λλ€. |
In our Latin American direct markets, we continue to see stabilization of our Brazilian affiliate and continued strong growth in Argentina. These results are being supported by our minimally invasive platforms and by the halo effect of the U.S. approval and initial success. The number of accounts we have in many markets is increasing, clearly a positive sign. Our distributor markets are generally doing well. Latin American distributors grew double digits in the second quarter. In other regions, the timing of orders to several of our partners impacted results. We believe these are short term and our market position overall globally continues to strengthen. | λΌν΄μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄ μ§μ μμ₯μμλ λΈλΌμ§ κ³μ΄μ¬μ μμ νκ° μ§μλκ³ μμΌλ©°, μλ₯΄ν¨ν°λμμλ κ°λ ₯ν μ±μ₯μΈκ° κ³μλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν μ€μ μ λΉμ¬μ μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌκ³Ό λ―Έκ΅ μΉμΈ λ° μ΄κΈ° μ±κ³΅μ νκ΄ ν¨κ³Όμ μν΄ λ·λ°μΉ¨λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ§μ μμ₯μμ λΉμ¬κ° 보μ ν κ±°λμ² μκ° μ¦κ°νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ΄λ λΆλͺ ν κΈμ μ μΈ μ νΈμ λλ€. λΉμ¬μ μ ν΅μ 체 μμ₯λ€μ μ λ°μ μΌλ‘ μνΈν μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. λΌν΄μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄ μ ν΅μ 체λ€μ 2λΆκΈ°μ λ μλ¦Ώμ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λ‘νμ΅λλ€. λ€λ₯Έ μ§μμμλ μ¬λ¬ ννΈλμ¬λ€μ λν μ£Όλ¬Έ νμ΄λ°μ΄ μ€μ μ μν₯μ λ―Έμ³€μ΅λλ€. μ΄λ λ¨κΈ°μ μΈ νμμΌλ‘ νλ¨λλ©°, μ μΈκ³μ μΌλ‘ λΉμ¬μ μμ₯ μ§μλ μ λ°μ μΌλ‘ κ³μ κ°νλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
For 2025, EMEA remains on track to achieve $8 million to $10 million in revenue. Mia is appealing to a new group of women who had not previously considered breast augmentation, and we continue to see the strong interest from clinics to offer the procedure. PreservΓ© also continues to build the momentum outside the U.S. and is going to be a meaningful contributor this year and next. We have clinics in Europe and Latin America already routinely performing this procedure and more being added regularly. With that, I will now turn the call over to Raj. Rajbir Singh Denhoy Thank you, Peter. Total revenue for the fourth quarter was $51.3 million, an increase of 16.3% from the year ago period. | 2025λ
EMEAλ 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λ§€μΆ λ¬μ± κΆ€λμ μμ΅λλ€. Miaλ μ΄μ μ μ λ°©νλμ μ κ³ λ €νμ§ μμλ μλ‘μ΄ μ¬μ± κ·Έλ£Ήμκ² μ΄ννκ³ μμΌλ©°, ν΄λ¦¬λλ€μ΄ μ΄ μμ μ μ 곡νκ³ μ νλ κ°ν κ΄μ¬μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. PreservΓ© λν λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ λͺ¨λ©ν
μ ꡬμΆνκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ¬ν΄μ λ΄λ
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λλ€. μ λ½κ³Ό λΌν΄ μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄μ ν΄λ¦¬λλ€μ΄ μ΄λ―Έ μ΄ μμ μ μ κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ μννκ³ μμΌλ©°, λ λ§μ ν΄λ¦¬λλ€μ΄ μ κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ μΆκ°λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄μ Rajμκ² ν΅νλ₯Ό λκΈ°κ² μ΅λλ€. Rajbir Singh Denhoy κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Peter. 4λΆκΈ° μ΄ λ§€μΆμ 5,130λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ μ λ λκΈ° λλΉ 16.3% μ¦κ°νμ΅λλ€. |
Excluding the positive impact of foreign exchange in the quarter, growth would have been approximately 14.3% versus a year ago. Sales from Motiva in the United States were $10.3 million. On a geographic basis, sales in the United States were 20% of the global total. Sales in Europe, Middle East, and Africa were 40% of sales, and we saw double-digit year-over-year growth overall in the region. Latin America was 19% of sales with mid-single- digit growth, including stable results in Brazil compared to the first quarter. Asia Pacific was 15% of sales. | λΆκΈ° λ΄ μΈνμ κΈμ μ μν₯μ μ μΈνλ©΄, μ±μ₯λ₯ μ μ λ λκΈ° λλΉ μ½ 14.3%μμ κ²μ λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ Motiva λ§€μΆμ 1,030λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ΅λλ€. μ§μλ³λ‘ μ΄ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, λ―Έκ΅ λ§€μΆμ μ 체 κΈλ‘λ² λ§€μΆμ 20%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§νμ΅λλ€. μ λ½, μ€λ, μν리카 μ§μμ λ§€μΆμ 40%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§νμΌλ©°, ν΄λΉ μ§μ μ 체μ μΌλ‘ μ λ λκΈ° λλΉ λ μλ¦Ώμ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λ‘νμ΅λλ€. λΌν΄μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄λ λ§€μΆμ 19%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§νλ©° μ€κ° ν μλ¦Ώμ μ±μ₯μ 보μκ³ , μ¬κΈ°μλ 1λΆκΈ° λλΉ μμ μ μΈ κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό λ³΄μΈ λΈλΌμ§μ΄ ν¬ν¨λ©λλ€. μμμ ννμ μ§μμ λ§€μΆμ 15%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§νμ΅λλ€. |
And while we saw sequential growth in the region, results were down year-over-year, mostly due to China and some one-off timing of orders from other distributors. Our gross profit for the second quarter was $35.3 million or 68.8% of revenue, a 320 basis point increase compared to the 65.6% of revenue for the same period in 2024 and 160 basis points higher than the 67.2% in the first quarter of this year. The increase reflects the higher margin sales in the United States, and we continue to expect gross margins in 2025 will be approximately 200 basis points to 300 basis points higher compared to 2024. | μ΄ μ§μμμ μ λΆκΈ° λλΉ μ±μ₯μ 보μμ§λ§, μ°κ° κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘λ μ€μ μ΄ κ°μνμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ μ£Όλ‘ μ€κ΅κ³Ό κΈ°ν μ ν΅μ 체λ€μ μΌνμ± μ£Όλ¬Έ νμ΄λ°μΌλ‘ μΈν κ²μ λλ€. 2λΆκΈ° μ΄μ΄μ΅μ 3,530λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ λ§€μΆμ 68.8%λ₯Ό κΈ°λ‘νμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ 2024λ λκΈ° λ§€μΆμ 65.6% λλΉ 320bp μ¦κ°ν κ²μ΄λ©°, μ¬ν΄ 1λΆκΈ°μ 67.2% λλΉλ‘λ 160bp μμΉν μμΉμ λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν μ¦κ°λ λ―Έκ΅μμμ λμ λ§μ§ λ§€μΆμ λ°μν κ²μ΄λ©°, λΉμ¬λ 2025λ μ΄λ§μ§μ΄ 2024λ λλΉ μ½ 200bpμμ 300bp λμ κ²μΌλ‘ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μμνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
As it relates to tariffs, the duties on goods imported from Costa Rica to the United States is expected to result in less than a 50 basis point gross margin impact on a consolidated basis and do not change our trajectory for margin improvement this year. SG&A expenses of $44.2 million were approximately $11.4 million higher than in the second quarter of 2024. R&D expenses for the second quarter were $5.2 million. Total operating expenses for the second quarter increased approximately $11.1 million from the year ago period to $49.4 million. | κ΄μΈμ κ΄λ ¨νμ¬, μ½μ€ν리카μμ λ―Έκ΅μΌλ‘ μμ λλ μνμ λν κ΄μΈλ μ°κ²° κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ μ΄λ§μ§μ 50λ² μ΄μμ€ν¬μΈνΈ λ―Έλ§μ μν₯μ λ―ΈμΉ κ²μΌλ‘ μμλλ©°, μ¬ν΄ λ§μ§ κ°μ κΆ€λμλ λ³νκ° μμ΅λλ€. νλ§€κ΄λ¦¬λΉλ 4,420λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ 2024λ 2λΆκΈ° λλΉ μ½ 1,140λ§ λ¬λ¬ μ¦κ°νμ΅λλ€. 2λΆκΈ° μ°κ΅¬κ°λ°λΉλ 520λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ΅λλ€. 2λΆκΈ° μ΄ μ΄μλΉμ©μ μ λ λκΈ° λλΉ μ½ 1,110λ§ λ¬λ¬ μ¦κ°ν 4,940λ§ λ¬λ¬λ₯Ό κΈ°λ‘νμ΅λλ€. |
The increase in operating expenses this quarter was due primarily to the ramp-up of commercial activity in the United States, including the Megan Trainer campaign where the majority of the expenses fell in 2Q as well as higher shipping costs. Shipping costs were the result of shipments sent by air in the second quarter to the U.S. and other markets to match the stronger demand. We also saw higher last mile shipping costs in the U.S. on the higher volume of sales. We expect operating expenses will moderate in the second half of the year. | μ΄λ² λΆκΈ° μμ λΉμ© μ¦κ°λ μ£Όλ‘ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μμ νλ νλμ κΈ°μΈνμΌλ©°, μ¬κΈ°μλ λΉμ©μ λλΆλΆμ΄ 2λΆκΈ°μ λ°μν λ©κ° νΈλ μ΄λ(Megan Trainer) μΊ νμΈκ³Ό λλΆμ΄ λμ λ°°μ‘λΉμ©μ΄ ν¬ν¨λ©λλ€. λ°°μ‘λΉμ©μ κ°νλ μμμ λμνκΈ° μν΄ 2λΆκΈ°μ λ―Έκ΅ λ° κΈ°ν μμ₯μΌλ‘ ν곡 μ΄μ‘ν κ²°κ³Όμ λλ€. λν λ―Έκ΅μμ νλ§€λ μ¦κ°λ‘ μΈν λΌμ€νΈλ§μΌ λ°°μ‘λΉμ© μμΉλ νμΈνμ΅λλ€. νλ°κΈ°μλ μμ λΉμ©μ΄ μνλ κ²μΌλ‘ μμν©λλ€. |
For 2025, we continue to expect operating expenses will be approximately $45 million to $46 million on average per quarter, which is where we are trending through the first half of the year. So as we saw in the first and second quarters, there can be fluctuations based on the timing of expenses. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $8.5 million, an improvement from the $12.1 million in the first quarter. We expect to see further improvement into 3Q and to reach our first EBITDA positive quarter this year. Our cash in the second quarter was $14.5 million, which is down from $21.2 million in the first quarter. | 2025λ μ λν΄μλ μ΄μλΉμ©μ΄ λΆκΈ°λΉ νκ· μ½ 4,500λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 4,600λ§ λ¬λ¬ μμ€μ μ§μν κ²μΌλ‘ μμνλ©°, μ΄λ μλ°κΈ° λμμ μΆμΈμ μΌμΉν©λλ€. 1λΆκΈ°μ 2λΆκΈ°μμ νμΈνλ―μ΄, λΉμ© λ°μ μμ μ λ°λΌ λ³λμ΄ μμ μ μμ΅λλ€. μ‘°μ EBITDAλ 850λ§ λ¬λ¬ μμ€μ κΈ°λ‘νμΌλ©°, μ΄λ 1λΆκΈ°μ 1,210λ§ λ¬λ¬ μμ€ λλΉ κ°μ λ μμΉμ λλ€. 3λΆκΈ°μλ μΆκ°μ μΈ κ°μ μ κΈ°λνκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ¬ν΄ 첫 λ²μ§Έ EBITDA νμ λΆκΈ°λ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ μμν©λλ€. 2λΆκΈ° νκΈλ³΄μ μ‘μ 1,450λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘, 1λΆκΈ°μ 2,120λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ κ°μνμ΅λλ€. |
As we have noted previously, the first half of 2025 should be higher for us in terms of cash use as we funded investments in the U.S. commercial platform as well as increases in working capital to support the strong demand. Cash use is expected to come down by approximately $5 million a quarter for the next several quarters, including an expectation of approximately $10 million in the third quarter. We expect to get to cash flow positive in 2026 without the need for any further equity raises. Our cash position on June 30 was $54.6 million. We have an additional $25 million still available under our credit facility, putting our total accessible cash balance at approximately $80 million. | μ΄μ μ μΈκΈν λ°μ κ°μ΄, 2025λ μλ°κΈ°λ λ―Έκ΅ μμ νλ«νΌμ λν ν¬μ μκΈ μ‘°λ¬κ³Ό κ°λ ₯ν μμλ₯Ό λ·λ°μΉ¨νκΈ° μν μ΄μ μλ³Έ μ¦κ°λ‘ μΈν΄ νκΈ μ¬μ©μ΄ λ λμ κ²μΌλ‘ μμλ©λλ€. νκΈ μ¬μ©μ ν₯ν λͺ λΆκΈ° λμ λΆκΈ°λΉ μ½ 500λ§ λ¬λ¬μ© κ°μν κ²μΌλ‘ μμλλ©°, 3λΆκΈ°μλ μ½ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬κ° λ κ²μΌλ‘ μ λ§λ©λλ€. λΉμ¬λ μΆκ°μ μΈ μ§λΆ μ‘°λ¬ μμ΄λ 2026λ μ νκΈνλ¦ νμλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ μμν©λλ€. 6μ 30μΌ κΈ°μ€ νκΈ ν¬μ§μ μ 5,460λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ΅λλ€. μ μ© νλ νμμ μ¬μ ν 2,500λ§ λ¬λ¬λ₯Ό μΆκ°λ‘ μ¬μ©ν μ μμ΄, μ΄ μ κ·Ό κ°λ₯ν νκΈ μμ‘μ μ½ 8,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λλ€. |
As a reminder, our current credit facility is approaching the last year of the term. We are exploring refinancing options that could further reduce our cash use over the coming quarters. We are increasing our revenue guidance for 2025 to a range of $208 million to $212 million from the previous $205 million to $210 million. Our new outlook represents growth of 25% to 28% and includes an expectation of at least $40 million in U.S. Motiva sales and single- digit growth outside the United States. U.S. is the primary engine of growth this year, but our direct markets outside the United States are also doing well. | μ°Έκ³ λ‘ λ§μλ리면, νμ¬ μ ν¬ μ μ©λμΆ μ½μ μ΄ λ§κΈ° λ§μ§λ§ ν΄μ μ μ΄λ€κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ ν¬λ ν₯ν λΆκΈ°μ κ±Έμ³ νκΈ μ¬μ©μ λμ± μ€μΌ μ μλ 리νμ΄λΈμ± μ΅μ
λ€μ κ²ν νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. 2025λ λ§€μΆ κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό κΈ°μ‘΄ 2μ΅ 500λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 2μ΅ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬ λ²μμμ 2μ΅ 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 2μ΅ 1,200λ§ λ¬λ¬ λ²μλ‘ μν₯ μ‘°μ ν©λλ€. μλ‘μ΄ μ λ§μ 25%μμ 28%μ μ±μ₯λ₯ μ λνλ΄λ©°, μ΅μ 4,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λ―Έκ΅ λͺ¨ν°λ° λ§€μΆκ³Ό λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμμ ν μλ¦Ώμ μ±μ₯μ ν¬ν¨νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ―Έκ΅μ΄ μ¬ν΄ μ±μ₯μ μ£Όμ λλ ₯μ΄μ§λ§, λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μ μμ₯λ€λ μνΈν μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
We're making good progress in leveraging our operating expenses and improving cash flow. We continue to forecast our first EBITDA positive quarter this year and remain confident that we will reach cash flow breakeven in 2026. I will now turn the call back to Peter. Fillipo Peter Caldini Thank you, Raj. Just last week, we announced that our Motiva Flora SmoothSilk Tissue Expander won both the Innovation and the Safety Awards in the 2025 Medical Device Network Excellence Awards. In its announcement, the organization noted this dual category win establishes Motiva Flora as a benchmark in the breast reconstructive surgery. | μ°λ¦¬λ μ΄μλΉμ©μ ν¨μ¨μ μΌλ‘ νμ©νκ³ νκΈνλ¦μ κ°μ νλ λ° μμ΄ μ’μ μ§μ μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ¬ν΄ 첫 EBITDA νμ λΆκΈ°λ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ κ³μ μ λ§νκ³ μμΌλ©°, 2026λ
μ νκΈνλ¦ μμ΅λΆκΈ°μ μ λλ¬ν κ²μ΄λΌκ³ νμ ν©λλ€. μ΄μ Peterμκ² λ€μ λ§μ΄ν¬λ₯Ό λκΈ°κ² μ΅λλ€. νλ¦¬ν¬ νΌν° μΉΌλλ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Raj. μ§λμ£Όμ μ ν¬λ Motiva Flora SmoothSilk μ‘°μ§ νμ₯κΈ°κ° 2025λ Medical Device Network Excellence Awardsμμ νμ μκ³Ό μμ μμ λμμ μμνλ€κ³ λ°ννμ΅λλ€. λ°νλ¬Έμμ ν΄λΉ κΈ°κ΄μ μ΄λ² λ λΆλ¬Έ λμ μμμ΄ Motiva Floraλ₯Ό μ λ°© μ¬κ±΄ μμ λΆμΌμ λ²€μΉλ§ν¬λ‘ ν립νλ€κ³ μΈκΈνμ΅λλ€. |
Our innovations are brought to market through years of hard work, and this is a recognition is a testament to the passion and dedication of the many people who work at Establishment Labs. Our company remains focused on 4 main priorities this year: driving growth in the U.S., the ongoing launch of our minimally invasive portfolio, increasing efficiency and profitability across the organization and advancing our innovation pipeline. We are making progress on all fronts. We are advancing to profitability through growth and continued operational efficiencies. We have a number of key growth drivers for the rest of 2025 and for many years to come. | μ ν¬μ νμ μ νλ€μ μλ κ°μ λ Έκ³ λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μμ₯μ μΆμλμμΌλ©°, μ΄λ² μΈμ μ Establishment Labsμμ μΌνλ λ§μ μ§μλ€μ μ΄μ κ³Ό νμ μ 보μ¬μ£Όλ μ¦κ±°μ λλ€. μ ν¬ νμ¬λ μ¬ν΄ 4κ°μ§ μ£Όμ μ°μ μμμ μ§μ€νκ³ μμ΅λλ€: λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμμ μ±μ₯ 견μΈ, μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ μ§μμ μΈ μΆμ, μ‘°μ§ μ λ°μ ν¨μ¨μ±κ³Ό μμ΅μ± μ¦λ, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ νμ νμ΄νλΌμΈμ λ°μ μ λλ€. μ ν¬λ λͺ¨λ λΆμΌμμ μ§μ μ μ΄λ£¨κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ±μ₯κ³Ό μ§μμ μΈ μ΄μ ν¨μ¨μ±μ ν΅ν΄ μμ΅μ±μ ν₯ν΄ λμκ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. 2025λ λ¨μ κΈ°κ°κ³Ό ν₯ν μλ κ° μ¬λ¬ ν΅μ¬ μ±μ₯ λλ ₯μ 보μ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
Higher surgeon utilization and adding accounts in the United States will drive growth for the rest of this year and into next. Approval of additional sizes will accelerate in both these areas. Having our indication for breast reconstruction in the U.S. will also be a considerable growth driver. PreservΓ© will create a premium offering around the world and help expand our TAM on a dollar basis as well as contribute gross margin expansion. And Mia helps expand our TAM on a patient basis. Reaching profitability this year and cash flow breakeven next year are significant milestones for us as an organization. | λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μΈκ³Όμ νμ©λ μ¦κ°μ μ κ· κ³μ ν보λ μ¬ν΄ λ¨μ κΈ°κ°κ³Ό λ΄λ κΉμ§ μ±μ₯μ 견μΈν κ²μ λλ€. μΆκ° μ¬μ΄μ¦ μΉμΈμ μ΄ λ μμ λͺ¨λμμ μ±μ₯μ κ°μνν κ²μ λλ€. λ―Έκ΅μμ μ λ°©μ¬κ±΄μ μ μμ¦μ ν보νλ κ² λν μλΉν μ±μ₯ λλ ₯μ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. PreservΓ©λ μ μΈκ³μ μΌλ‘ ν리미μ μ νκ΅°μ ꡬμ±νκ³ λ¬λ¬ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ TAM(μ 체 μμ₯ κ·λͺ¨) νλμ λμμ΄ λλ©° μ΄λ§μ§ νλμλ κΈ°μ¬ν κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Miaλ νμ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ TAM νλμ λμμ΄ λ©λλ€. μ¬ν΄ μμ΅μ± λ¬μ±κ³Ό λ΄λ νκΈνλ¦ μμ΅λΆκΈ°μ λ¬μ±μ μ‘°μ§μΌλ‘μ μ°λ¦¬μκ² μ€μν μ΄μ νμ λλ€. |
With our differentiated technologies and market position, being cash generating and self-sustaining affords us a very unique opportunity to drive significant shareholder value for many years to come. Operator, we're ready to take your questions. | μ°¨λ³νλ κΈ°μ λ ₯κ³Ό μμ₯ μ§μλ₯Ό λ°νμΌλ‘, νκΈ μ°½μΆμ΄ κ°λ₯νκ³ μ립μ μΈ μ΄μμ΄ κ°λ₯νλ€λ μ μ ν₯ν μλ κ° μλΉν μ£Όμ£Όκ°μΉλ₯Ό μ°½μΆν μ μλ λ§€μ° λ νΉν κΈ°νλ₯Ό μ 곡ν©λλ€. μ€νΌλ μ΄ν°, μ§λ¬Έμ λ°μ μ€λΉκ° λμμ΅λλ€. |
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Operator: [Operator Instructions] First question comes from Josh Jennings at TD Cowen. | **Operator:** [μ΄μμ μλ΄] 첫 λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬Έμ TD Cowenμ Josh Jenningsλκ»μ μ£Όμ ¨μ΅λλ€. |
Joshua Thomas Jennings: Nice quarter, and it's great to see the positive 2025 revenue guidance upgrade and hear about the continued momentum in the U.S. Motiva launch. I think you guys touched on most of the points in the guidance update. But maybe if you could fine-tune or share some more details around assumptions baked into the upgrade, $40-plus -- at least $40 million in U.S. Motiva revenues and single-digit international sales. But anything regional you can share? And Peter, you shared -- you talked about some headwinds in China. I would love to hear more about that and how we should be thinking about revenue in China in the second half. | **Joshua Thomas Jennings:** μ’μ λΆκΈ° μ€μ μ΄μκ³ , 2025λ λ§€μΆ κ°μ΄λμ€ μν₯ μ‘°μ κ³Ό λ―Έκ΅ Motiva μΆμμ μ§μμ μΈ λͺ¨λ©ν μ λ³΄κ² λμ΄ κΈ°μ©λλ€. κ°μ΄λμ€ μ λ°μ΄νΈμμ λλΆλΆμ ν¬μΈνΈλ€μ λ€λ£¨μ΄ μ£Όμ ¨λλ°μ. μν₯ μ‘°μ μ λ°μλ κ°μ λ€μ λν΄ μ’ λ μΈλΆμ μΈ λ΄μ©μ 곡μ ν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μμκΉμ? λ―Έκ΅ Motiva λ§€μΆ μ΅μ 4μ²λ§ λ¬λ¬ μ΄μ, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν μλ¦Ώμ κ΅μ λ§€μΆ μ±μ₯λ₯ λ§μ λλ€. μ§μλ³λ‘ 곡μ ν μ μλ λ΄μ©μ΄ μλμ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Peterκ»μ μ€κ΅μμμ μΌλΆ μνμ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ ¨λλ°, μ΄μ λν΄ λ μμΈν λ£κ³ μΆκ³ νλ°κΈ° μ€κ΅ λ§€μΆμ μ΄λ»κ² λ°λΌλ΄μΌ ν μ§ μκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Josh, thanks for the question. Yes, as you noted, we are seeing very strong results in the U.S. The continued momentum we're seeing in surgeon adoption and the utilization is giving us the confidence to raise the U.S. outlook to at least $40 million. And that's really the basis of the comfort in raising the global outlook to $208 million to $212 million, as I mentioned. Outside the U.S., the direct markets are doing very well. As we noted in the prepared remarks, our European direct markets were up about 27% on an underlying basis, so very strong results there. And our distributor markets are performing to expectations with the exception of China. And as we highlighted in the prepared remarks, that market has been a little bit more challenging this year, and we have taken China out of the guidance for the second half of the year. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. λ§μνμ λλ‘ λ―Έκ΅μμ λ§€μ° κ°λ ₯ν μ€μ μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ λμ
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Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. So Josh, thanks for the question. Just to add a little bit more context to the business in China. for us, I think the business is performing below expectations. A lot of that is driven by the market environment. You're seeing declines across a number of consumer segments. And aesthetics, in particular, is under pressure. And basically also where we're positioned in the premium segment, we're seeing a lot of challenges there. But we also feel that our distributors experience some challenges in terms of scaling up their commercial operations. We expect to be further along at this point in the launch. So in terms of building out their commercial capabilities in terms of productivity in the hospitals that they're in. So this is a big focus for us. We work very closely with our partner in China, and we're still very confident that we are going to achieve the same leadership position in China that we have throughout Asia, just that the ramp-up is going to be a little bit slower. And we're reflecting that in the guidance. But as Raj mentioned, continuing to do very well in the U.S. We're continuing to see that momentum in Q3. The direct markets are doing well, and that's been a priority for us. These are markets that we see significant growth opportunities, and these are areas where we have our own organizations and I think also opportunities for growth. So we're very pleased with those growth, and I think that's reflected in the numbers. And also, we're being cautious about the current situation in China. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, Josh, μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μ€κ΅ μ¬μ
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Operator: The next question comes from Sam Eiber at BTIG. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ BTIGμ Sam Eiberλ‘λΆν° μμ΅λλ€. |
Sam Shimon Eiber: Peter, really helpful commentary on the utilization trends in the U.S. As surgeons gain more experience and work through the existing consultations that they had prior. As I think about the growth trajectory going forward, is it fair to assume that we could actually see an acceleration sort of a hockey stick type of an inflection at some point as that utilization starts to build and they work through their order book. And how should we think about timing of when that could happen? | **Sam Shimon Eiber:** νΌν°, λ―Έκ΅μ νμ©λ νΈλ λμ λν μ λ§ μ μ©ν μ€λͺ μ΄μμ΅λλ€. μΈκ³Όμλ€μ΄ λ λ§μ κ²½νμ μκ³ μ΄μ μ κ°μ§κ³ μλ κΈ°μ‘΄ μλ΄λ€μ μ²λ¦¬ν΄ λκ°λ©΄μ λ§μ΄μ£ . μμΌλ‘μ μ±μ₯ κΆ€λλ₯Ό μκ°ν΄λ³Ό λ, νμ©λκ° μ¦κ°νκΈ° μμνκ³ κ·Έλ€μ΄ μ£Όλ¬Έ μκ³ λ₯Ό μ²λ¦¬ν΄ λκ°λ©΄μ μ΄λ μμ μμ νν€μ€ν± ννμ λ³κ³‘μ μ²λΌ μ€μ λ‘ κ°μνλ₯Ό λ³Ό μ μλ€κ³ κ°μ νλ κ²μ΄ ν©λ¦¬μ μΌκΉμ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έλ° μΌμ΄ μΈμ μΌμ΄λ μ μλμ§ νμ΄λ°μ λν΄μλ μ΄λ»κ² μκ°ν΄μΌ ν κΉμ? |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. Thanks, Sam. As we highlighted in the prepared remarks, we continue to make great progress in the U.S. market. We continue to add additional accounts even going into Q3, which is a slower part of the season, we continue to build that momentum. I think as most accounts, I mean, it varies by account that I highlighted in the prepared statement. But we -- what we are seeing is we've been able to capture a number of accounts. I think we have over 40 accounts that have already done over 100 orders year-to-date. Some have actually reached 200. So I think it's going to continue to progress in the same type of trajectory. And as we add accounts, the original accounts that are moving up the adoption curve, which varies by clinic, you're going to see acceleration as well. So I don't think there's necessarily going to be a hockey stick per se. I think you're just going to see continued gradual growth as we add new accounts as well as some of the accounts that we've already added are kind of moving up the adoption curve. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μ€λΉλ λ°μΈμμ κ°μ‘°νλ―μ΄, λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμ κ³μν΄μ ν° μ§μ μ μ΄λ£¨κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμ¦μ λ€μ λνλλ 3λΆκΈ°μ μ μ΄λ€λ©΄μλ κ³μν΄μ μΆκ° κ³μ μ ν보νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ΄λ¬ν λͺ¨λ©ν μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ ꡬμΆνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ€λΉλ λ°μΈμμ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄ λλΆλΆμ κ³μ λ€μ΄ κ·Έλ μ§λ§, κ³μ λ³λ‘ μ°¨μ΄κ° μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ ν¬κ° λ³΄κ³ μλ κ²μ μλΉμμ κ³μ μ ν보ν μ μμλ€λ μ μ λλ€. μ°μ΄ λλΉ νμ¬κΉμ§ μ΄λ―Έ 100건 μ΄μμ μ£Όλ¬Έμ μ²λ¦¬ν κ³μ μ΄ 40κ°κ° λμ΅λλ€. μΌλΆλ μ€μ λ‘ 200건μ λλ¬νμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ κ°μ κΆ€λλ‘ κ³μ μ§μ λ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ³μ μ μΆκ°νλ©΄μ, ν΄λ¦¬λλ³λ‘ μ°¨μ΄λ μμ§λ§ λμ 곑μ μ λ°λΌ μμΉνκ³ μλ κΈ°μ‘΄ κ³μ λ€μμλ κ°μνλ₯Ό λ³΄κ² λ κ²μ λλ€. κΈκ²©ν μ±μ₯ 곑μ μ΄ λνλ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ λ μκ°νμ§ μμ΅λλ€. μλ‘μ΄ κ³μ μ μΆκ°νκ³ μ΄λ―Έ ν보ν κ³μ λ€μ΄ λμ 곑μ μ λ°λΌ μ μ§μ μΌλ‘ μ±μ₯ν΄ λκ°λ©΄μ μ§μμ μ΄κ³ μ μ§μ μΈ μ±μ₯μ λ³΄κ² λ κ²μΌλ‘ μμν©λλ€. |
Operator: The next question comes from Anthony Petrone at Mizuho Group. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ λ―Έμ¦νΈ κ·Έλ£Ήμ Anthony PetroneλμΌλ‘λΆν° λ°μμ΅λλ€. |
Anthony Charles Petrone: Congrats on a great quarter here and a solid launch on Motiva. One on U.S., one on OUS. On the U.S. side, when we think about just the rate of physician adds, it was -- it's been quite rapid since the FDA clearance last year. What does the trajectory look like from here when we just think about new site openings -- and at what point do you think this turns into more of a penetration story into those accounts rather than new site adds? And then I'll have a follow-up question on OUS. | **Anthony Charles Petrone:** νλ₯ν λΆκΈ° μ€μ κ³Ό Motivaμ μ±κ³΅μ μΈ μΆμλ₯Ό μΆνλ립λλ€. λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό ν΄μΈμ λν΄ κ°κ° μ§λ¬Έλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. λ¨Όμ λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμ μλ FDA μΉμΈ μ΄ν μμ¬ μΆκ° μλκ° μλΉν λΉ¨λλλ°μ. μμΌλ‘μ κΆ€μ μ μ΄λ»κ² λ μ§, μλ‘μ΄ μ¬μ΄νΈ κ°μ€ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ΄λ»κ² 보μλμ§μ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μΈμ μ―€ μ κ· μ¬μ΄νΈ μΆκ°λ³΄λ€λ κΈ°μ‘΄ κ³μ λ΄ μΉ¨ν¬μ¨ νλκ° λ μ€μν μ΄μΌκΈ°κ° λ κ²μΌλ‘ 보μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν΄μΈ μμ₯μ λν΄μλ νμ μ§λ¬Έμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Yes. Thanks, Anthony. I mean, as we highlighted, we continue to get more accounts. We highlighted in our Investor Day, we've reached 1,000 accounts. We continue to add to that. In terms of the growth moving forward, a little bit more of our focus, I would say, at this point, is actually enhancing the utilization rate in the accounts that we do have. But we still see opportunities to add additional accounts, especially as we expand our sales force. But I think that's going to be the focus as we move forward. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, μν λ. λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄ μ ν¬λ κ³μν΄μ λ λ§μ κ³μ μ ν보νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. ν¬μμμ λ μμ κ°μ‘°νλ―μ΄ 1,000κ° κ³μ μ λλ¬νκ³ , κ³μν΄μ μΆκ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. ν₯ν μ±μ₯ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ 보면, νμ¬ μ ν¬κ° μ’ λ μ§μ€νκ³ μλ λΆλΆμ μ€μ λ‘λ κΈ°μ‘΄ 보μ κ³μ λ€μ νμ©λ₯ μ λμ΄λ κ²μ λλ€. νμ§λ§ νΉν μμ νμ νμ₯νλ©΄μ μΆκ° κ³μ μ ν보ν κΈ°νλ μ¬μ ν λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμΌλ‘ λμκ°λ©΄μ μ΄κ²μ΄ μ ν¬μ μ£Όμ μ΄μ μ΄ λ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
Anthony Charles Petrone: Just a quick follow-up there. Is it fair -- you've had some competitors report in the aesthetic space and there's a little bit of pressure on the consumer end, certainly not seeing it in the Motiva numbers here. But just where do you think the underlying U.S. breast augmentation is? In other words, is there another leg here to unlock once the consumer stabilizes? And then quickly on the OUS, just wondering how much revenue was impacted by the shipping delays you referenced there in APAC specifically? | **Anthony Charles Petrone:** κ°λ¨ν νμ μ§λ¬Έμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. λ―Έμ© λΆμΌμμ μΌλΆ κ²½μμ¬λ€μ΄ μ€μ μ λ°ννλλ° μλΉμ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ½κ°μ μλ°μ΄ μλ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ μ¬κΈ° Motiva μμΉμμλ κ·Έλ° νμμ΄ λ³΄μ΄μ§ μκ³ μμ§λ§μ. λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μ λ°©νλμ μ κ·Όλ³Έμ μΈ μν©μ΄ μ΄λ»λ€κ³ 보μλμ§μ? λ€μ λ§ν΄, μλΉμ μν©μ΄ μμ λλ©΄ λ λ€λ₯Έ μ±μ₯ λλ ₯μ΄ μμκΉμ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν΄μΈ λ§€μΆ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ κ°λ¨ν μ§λ¬Έλ리면, μμμννμ μ§μμμ μΈκΈνμ λ°°μ‘ μ§μ°μΌλ‘ μΈν΄ λ§€μΆμ΄ μΌλ§λ μν₯μ λ°μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Okay. So I think what we're seeing, Anthony, as it relates to the U.S. market is we haven't seen a slowdown in the breast aesthetics augmentation market. We're continuing to see good growth. And I think some of that is driven because we are driving share and we're gaining -- continue to gain share in the marketplace. But I think also with a lot of the activities that we're doing in terms of social media, Meggan Trainer, I think we've been able to kind of increase some of the interest in terms of patients and looking for breast augmentation procedures. I think we've been working and helping to kind of remove some of that taboo related to it. So I think in some respects, and we don't have specific data on this, we're helping to drive growth in the category. As it relates to the OUS numbers, Raj. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯κ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ λ§μλ리면, μ λ°© λ―Έμ© νλμ μμ₯μμ λνλ 보μ΄μ§ μκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μ’μ μ±μ₯μ λ³΄κ³ μκ³ μ. μ΄λ λΆλΆμ μΌλ‘ μ ν¬κ° μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ νλνκ³ μκ³ κ³μν΄μ μμ₯μμ μ μ μ¨μ λλ €κ°κ³ μκΈ° λλ¬Έμ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. νμ§λ§ μμ
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λλ€. μ΄μ κ΄λ ¨λ κΈκΈ°μνλ μΈμμ μ΄λ μ λ μμ λ λ° λμμ μ£Όκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄λ€ λ©΄μμλ, ꡬ체μ μΈ λ°μ΄ν°λ μμ§λ§, μ ν¬κ° μ΄ μΉ΄ν κ³ λ¦¬ μ 체μ μ±μ₯μ 견μΈνλ λ° κΈ°μ¬νκ³ μλ€κ³ λ΄ λλ€. ν΄μΈ λ§€μΆ μμΉμ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ λ§μλ리면, Raj. |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Sorry, Anthony, can you repeat the question? I think you were asking about shipping. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** μ£μ‘ν©λλ€, μ€μλ. μ§λ¬Έμ λ€μ ν΄μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? λ°°μ‘μ λν΄ λ¬Έμνμ κ² κ°μλ°μ. |
Anthony Charles Petrone: The revenue attached to the shipping day comment in APAC specifically. | **Anthony Charles Petrone:** APAC μ§μμ μΆνμΌ κ΄λ ¨ λ§€μΆμ λν ꡬ체μ μΈ λ΄μ©μ λλ€. |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Well, I think what we commented on was that we did incur higher shipping costs in the quarter relative to sending product via air as opposed to via sea freight. We didn't see any impact in our results really relative to shipping days or anything related to that. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** μ΄λ² λΆκΈ°μ ν΄μ μ΄μ‘ λμ ν곡 μ΄μ‘μ ν΅ν΄ μ νμ λ°μ‘νλ©΄μ λ λμ μ΄μ‘λΉκ° λ°μνλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦° λ° μμ΅λλ€. μ΄μ‘ μΌμλ κ·Έμ κ΄λ ¨λ λ€λ₯Έ μμΈλ€μ΄ μ€μ μ λ―ΈμΉ μν₯μ μ€μ λ‘ μμμ΅λλ€. |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. I think, Anthony, just to add, I think specific to the -- in terms of lapping versus last year, obviously, we had -- last year, we had China orders. We didn't have it this year. Some of it is just the timing of these orders. And I think in a couple of cases, distributors are managing down inventory as it relates to a regulatory change that's coming. But the quantification of that impact, I think, is somewhat marginal, and it's going to be really kind of something we address in the following quarters. It's more of a timing issue. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, Anthony, μΆκ°λ‘ λ§μλ리면, μλ
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Operator: The next question comes from Mike Matson at Needham & Company. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ Needham & Companyμ Mike Matsonλκ»μ μ£Όμ ¨μ΅λλ€. |
Mike Matson: I have 2. They're sort of related. So I'll just go and ask them both now. So I wanted to ask one on pricing trends in the U.S. I think you had priced your implants a bit higher than some of the competitors. Are you being able to sustain that? Are you seeing any pushback? And then the second question would just be around competitive response. Are you seeing -- what are you seeing the 2 bigger competitors doing, if anything, to try to fight back as they lose share in Motiva? | **Mike Matson:** λ κ°μ§ μ§λ¬Έμ΄ μλλ° μλ‘ μ°κ΄λμ΄ μμ΄μ ν¨κ» λλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. 첫 λ²μ§Έλ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ κ°κ²© λν₯μ κ΄ν κ²μ λλ€. κ²½μμ¬λ€λ³΄λ€ μνλνΈ κ°κ²©μ λ€μ λκ² μ± μ νμ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μλλ°, μ΄λ₯Ό μ§μν μ μμΌμ μ§μ? κ³ κ°λ€μ λ°λ°μ μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. λ λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬Έμ κ²½μμ¬ λμμ κ΄ν κ²μ λλ€. λ λν κ²½μμ¬λ€μ΄ λͺ¨ν°λ°μκ² μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ λΉΌμκΈ°λ©΄μ λ°κ²©μ μν΄ μ΄λ€ μ‘°μΉλ₯Ό μ·¨νκ³ μλμ§, νΉμ 보μλ κ² μλ€λ©΄ λ§μν΄ μ£ΌμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Yes. Thanks, Mike. In terms of pricing, as you mentioned, we do have a premium price versus our competitors because we feel we have a superior product in the marketplace. And I think that's reflected by the patients' acceptance as well as the surgeons. We have not really felt any pricing pressure per se. I think as naturally, as we gain scale with certain clinics, there's going to be volume discounts based on the number of procedure -- number of the orders that they have. But that's not really driven by any kind of competitive reaction. I would say from an overall competitive response, we see, I would say, nothing that's major coordinated reaction. I think much of it is really on a market-by- market basis, certain responses by individual sales reps, but nothing that I would say, is a concerted, organized and strong reaction from the competitive set right now. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. κ°κ²© μΈ‘λ©΄μμ λ§μνμ λλ‘, μ ν¬λ μμ₯μμ μ°μν μ νμ 보μ νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°νκΈ° λλ¬Έμ κ²½μμ¬ λλΉ ν리미μ κ°κ²©μ μ μ§νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ νμλ€μ μμ©λμ μΈκ³Όμλ€μ λ°μμμλ μ λνλκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ ν¬λ μ€μ§μ μΌλ‘ κ°κ²© μλ°μ λ°κ³ μμ§λ μμ΅λλ€. μμ°μ€λ½κ² νΉμ ν΄λ¦¬λλ€κ³Όμ κ·λͺ¨κ° 컀μ§λ©΄μ μμ 건μλ μ£Όλ¬Έλμ λ°λ₯Έ λ³Όλ₯¨ ν μΈμ μμ μ μμ§λ§, μ΄λ κ²½μμ λ°μμ μν κ²μ΄λΌκΈ°λ³΄λ€λ μμ°μ€λ¬μ΄ νμμ λλ€. μ λ°μ μΈ κ²½μμ¬λ€μ λμμ 보면, μ£Όμν μ‘°μ§μ λ°μμ νΉλ³ν 보μ΄μ§ μλλ€κ³ λ§μλ릴 μ μκ² μ΅λλ€. λλΆλΆμ μμ₯λ³λ‘ λ€λ₯΄κ³ , κ°λ³ μμ λ΄λΉμλ€μ νΉμ λ°μλ€μ΄λΌκ³ λ΄ λλ€. νμ¬λ‘μλ κ²½μμ¬λ€λ‘λΆν° μ‘°μ§μ μ΄κ³ κ°λ ₯ν λμμ΄ λμ€κ³ μλ€κ³ λ§ν μμ€μ μλλλ€. |
Operator: The next question comes from Allen Gong at JPMorgan. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ JPλͺ¨κ±΄μ Allen Gongμμ λμμ΅λλ€. |
K. Gong: Sorry if this has been answered already. I joined a little bit late. But just curious on the cadence for the balance of the year. I know the $40 million target for the U.S. is a bit open-ended. But if we just think about the incremental contribution implied by that, you're saying that you're going to get at least $4 million or so revenues in the back half, assuming we just straight line the second quarter. So taking into account the continued ramp and some seasonality in third quarter, how should we think about the cadence of growth for both U.S. and global in the balance of the year? | **K. Gong:** μ£μ‘ν©λλ€. μ΄λ―Έ λ΅λ³λ μ§λ¬ΈμΌ μλ μλλ°, μ‘°κΈ λ¦κ² μ°Έμ¬ν΄μμ. μ¬ν΄ λ¨μ κΈ°κ°μ μ§ν μλμ λν΄ κΆκΈν©λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μ 4μ²λ§ λ¬λ¬ λͺ©νκ° λ€μ μ΄λ¦° ννλΌλ κ²μ μκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ κ·Έκ²μ΄ μλ―Ένλ μ¦λΆ κΈ°μ¬λλ₯Ό μκ°ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, 2λΆκΈ°λ₯Ό λ¨μν μ§μ μΌλ‘ μ°μ₯νλ€κ³ κ°μ ν λ νλ°κΈ°μ μ΅μ 4λ°±λ§ λ¬λ¬ μ λμ λ§€μΆμ μ»μ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ λ§μνμλ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. μ§μμ μΈ μ¦κ°μΈμ 3λΆκΈ°μ κ³μ μ±μ κ³ λ €ν λ, μ¬ν΄ λ¨μ κΈ°κ° λμ λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό κΈλ‘λ² λͺ¨λμ μ±μ₯ μλλ₯Ό μ΄λ»κ² μκ°ν΄μΌ ν κΉμ? |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Yes. Thanks, Alan. Thanks for the question. So we do expect the U.S. will see some sequential growth into the third quarter. It's usually a seasonally slow period, but given the momentum in the business, we do expect it will be up in the third quarter. And then we'll, of course, see a nice resumption in the fourth quarter. The guidance is for at least $40 million, right? And so we continue to look at it in terms of trying to offer a conservative view on it. But clearly, the momentum in the business is quite strong and $40 million is really the low end of where we expect to be for the year. As it relates to outside the United States, as you know, the third quarter is seasonally slower, as I mentioned. We should see that in the OUS business, although given the timing of certain orders, we do expect that the third quarter might not be down as much as it is in historic periods. And then we should see a nice step-up into the fourth quarter. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, μ¨λ°. μ§λ¬Έν΄ μ£Όμ
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λλ€. κ°μ΄λμ€λ μ΅μ 4μ²λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λλ€. μ ν¬λ κ³μν΄μ 보μμ μΈ κ΄μ μμ μ κ·Όνλ €κ³ ν©λλ€. νμ§λ§ λΆλͺ ν μ¬μ μ λͺ¨λ©ν μ μλΉν κ°νκ³ , 4μ²λ§ λ¬λ¬λ μ€μ λ‘ μ¬ν΄ μμνλ λ²μμ ννμ μ λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μκ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μλ, μμλ€μνΌ μμ λ§μλλ¦° λλ‘ 3λΆκΈ°λ κ³μ μ μΌλ‘ λ λνλλ μκΈ°μ λλ€. OUS μ¬μ μμλ νΉμ μ£Όλ¬Έλ€μ νμ΄λ°μ κ³ λ €ν λ, 3λΆκΈ°κ° κ³Όκ±° κ°μ κΈ°κ° λλΉ κ·Έλ κ² ν¬κ² νλ½νμ§λ μμ κ²μΌλ‘ μμλ©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ 4λΆκΈ°μλ μλΉν μ¦κ°μΈλ₯Ό λ³΄μΌ κ²μΌλ‘ μ λ§νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
K. Gong: And then just a quick follow-up on spend. SG&A came in, I think, a little bit higher than we were thinking. Is that just additional investment to support the U.S. launch? And how should we think about the leverage you can maybe get in the back half now that we're moving past the initial phases of the domestic launch? | **K. Gong:** κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ§μΆμ λν κ°λ¨ν νμ μ§λ¬Έμ λλ€. SG&Aκ° μ ν¬κ° μμνλ κ²λ³΄λ€ μ‘°κΈ λκ² λμ¨ κ² κ°μλ°μ. μ΄κ²μ΄ λ―Έκ΅ μΆμλ₯Ό μ§μνκΈ° μν μΆκ° ν¬μ λλ¬ΈμΈκ°μ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄μ κ΅λ΄ μΆμμ μ΄κΈ° λ¨κ³λ₯Ό μ§λκ³ μλ μν©μμ νλ°κΈ°μ μ»μ μ μλ λ λ²λ¦¬μ§μ λν΄μλ μ΄λ»κ² μκ°ν΄μΌ ν κΉμ? |
Rajbir Singh Denhoy: Yes. So as we noted in the prepared remarks, there was primarily 2 major factors in the quarter. As I mentioned, the shipping costs were higher, and that was a combination of, again, sending more product via air versus sea freight in order to meet the demand that we're seeing both in the United States and outside. And then there was in the United States, given the higher volumes that we're moving, we did have higher last mile shipping costs actually getting the product from the warehouse to the customers. As we think about -- and the second piece of that is the timing of certain expenses. And so we did have some higher marketing spending in the United States relative to some of the activities, the Megan Trainer campaign and the like, but that was really more of a timing question. As we think about the back half of the year, we do expect that operating expenses will trend down from where they were here in the second quarter, and so we'll see a nice improvement into the third quarter. And as we've spoken about previously, it is the increase in revenue primarily driven by the United States that is providing the leverage. So as we keep operating expenses on a quarterly basis relatively consistent, as those revenues come in and particularly the higher gross margin U.S. revenues, that's where the leverage starts to flow from. And we remain confident that we'll achieve EBITDA positive in the back half of the year and then ultimately cash flow positive next year. | **Rajbir Singh Denhoy:** λ€, μ€λΉλ λ°μΈμμ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄ μ΄λ² λΆκΈ°μλ μ£Όλ‘ λ κ°μ§ μ£Όμ μμΈμ΄ μμμ΅λλ€. λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄ λ°°μ‘λΉκ° λ λμλλ°, μ΄λ λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό ν΄μΈμμ λ³΄κ³ μλ μμλ₯Ό μΆ©μ‘±νκΈ° μν΄ ν΄μ μ΄μ‘ λμ ν곡 μ΄μ‘μΌλ‘ λ λ§μ μ νμ 보λκΈ° λλ¬Έμ
λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ―Έκ΅μμλ λ λ§μ λ¬Όλμ μ²λ¦¬νλ©΄μ μ°½κ³ μμ κ³ κ°κΉμ§ μ νμ λ°°μ‘νλ λΌμ€νΈ λ§μΌ λ°°μ‘λΉκ° λ λμμ΅λλ€. λ λ²μ§Έ μμλ νΉμ λΉμ©μ νμ΄λ° λ¬Έμ μμ΅λλ€. λ©κ° νΈλ μ΄λ μΊ νμΈ λ±μ νλκ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ λ―Έκ΅μμ λ§μΌν μ§μΆμ΄ λ λμμ§λ§, μ΄λ μ€μ λ‘λ νμ΄λ°μ λ¬Έμ μμ΅λλ€. νλ°κΈ°λ₯Ό μ λ§ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, μ΄μλΉμ©μ΄ 2λΆκΈ° λλΉ κ°μν κ²μΌλ‘ μμνκ³ μμ΄ 3λΆκΈ°μλ μλΉν κ°μ μ λ³΄κ² λ κ²μ λλ€. μ΄μ μ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ£Όλ‘ λ―Έκ΅μμ 견μΈλλ λ§€μΆ μ¦κ°κ° λ λ²λ¦¬μ§λ₯Ό μ 곡νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λΆκΈ°λ³ μ΄μλΉμ©μ μλμ μΌλ‘ μΌμ νκ² μ μ§νλ©΄μ λ§€μΆμ΄ μ μ λκ³ , νΉν λ λμ μ΄μ΄μ΅λ₯ μ κ°μ§ λ―Έκ΅ λ§€μΆμ΄ λ€μ΄μ€λ©΄μ λ λ²λ¦¬μ§ ν¨κ³Όκ° λνλκΈ° μμνλ κ²μ λλ€. νλ°κΈ°μ EBITDA νμλ₯Ό λ¬μ±νκ³ λ΄λ μλ κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ νκΈνλ¦ νμλ₯Ό μ€νν κ²μ΄λΌλ νμ μ κ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
Operator: The next question comes from Matt Taylor at Jefferies. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ μ ν리μ€μ λ§€νΈ ν μΌλ¬λ‘λΆν° λμμ΅λλ€. |
Matthew Charles Taylor: I had a follow-up on China. I know last year that on the Q3 call, you announced this partner in principle had committed to invest up to $50 million in the distributor. And I was wondering if you could just give an update on how that investment is tracking? How much have they invested so far? | **Matthew Charles Taylor:** μ€κ΅ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ μΆκ° μ§λ¬Έμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. μλ 3λΆκΈ° μ€μ λ°νμμ μμΉμ μΌλ‘ ν©μν ννΈλκ° μ ν΅μ 체μ μ΅λ 5μ²λ§ λ¬λ¬λ₯Ό ν¬μνκΈ°λ‘ μ½μνλ€κ³ λ°ννμ ¨λλ°μ. κ·Έ ν¬μ μ§ν μν©μ λν΄ μ λ°μ΄νΈν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? μ§κΈκΉμ§ μΌλ§λ ν¬μνλμ§μ? |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: We don't have perfect visibility into the investments from that distributor -- from the investor into our distribution partner. They have been building the activity in China. Our -- the issue so far has been that just they're experiencing some challenges in scaling the commercial operations there. And they're a little bit behind where we would have expected at this point in the launch. We are doing what we can to support that distributor to help them achieve what we all expect we can in the region. As we mentioned on the prepared remarks, we're the leading implant in all of the surrounding countries in Europe, and our expectation is we'll achieve a similar position in China, but it is clearly going a bit slower than we had hoped at this point. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** ν΄λΉ μ ν΅μ
체μ λν ν¬μμμ ν¬μ λ΄μμ λν΄μλ μμ ν κ°μμ±μ ν보νμ§ λͺ»νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ€μ μ€κ΅μμ μ¬μ
νλμ ꡬμΆν΄ λκ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ§κΈκΉμ§μ λ¬Έμ λ κ·Έλ€μ΄ νμ§ μμ
μ μ΄μ νλμ μμ΄ μΌλΆ μ΄λ €μμ κ²ͺκ³ μλ€λ μ μ
λλ€. μΆμ μμ μμ μ ν¬κ° κΈ°λνλ μμ€λ³΄λ€λ λ€μ λ€μ²μ Έ μλ μν©μ
λλ€. μ ν¬λ ν΄λΉ μ ν΅μ μ²΄κ° μ΄ μ§μμμ μ°λ¦¬ λͺ¨λκ° κΈ°λνλ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν μ μλλ‘ μ§μνκΈ° μν΄ ν μ μλ λͺ¨λ λ Έλ ₯μ κΈ°μΈμ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ€λΉλ λ°μΈμμ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬λ μ λ½μ λͺ¨λ μ£Όλ³ κ΅κ°μμ μ λμ μΈ μνλνΈ μ 체μ΄λ©°, μ€κ΅μμλ λΉμ·ν μμΉλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ κΈ°λνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ νμ¬ μμ μμλ μ ν¬κ° ν¬λ§νλ κ²λ³΄λ€ νμ€ν λ€μ λλκ² μ§νλκ³ μλ κ²μ΄ μ¬μ€μ λλ€. |
Matthew Charles Taylor: Okay. And then second question was I wanted to ask about the difference between Mia and PreservΓ©. I mean you talked a lot about Mia in the past and the excitement around that and it seems just maybe a recency bias, but now you're talking a lot more about PreservΓ©. I know there's some similarities and some differences. Maybe I'll just ask, if you look 5 years out, do you think Mia is going to be bigger than PreservΓ© in terms of dollars or the other way around? Just help us think about the 2 approaches into the future. | **Matthew Charles Taylor:** μ’μ μ§λ¬Έμ
λλ€. λ¨Όμ λ μ νμ μ°¨μ΄μ μ λͺ
νν ν΄λλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. Miaμ PreservΓ©λ μλ‘ λ€λ₯Έ μμ₯ κΈ°νλ₯Ό 겨λ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. Miaλ μ£Όλ‘ μ μ μ¬μ±μΈ΅μ λμμΌλ‘ ν μλ°©μ μ κ·Όλ²μ μ€μ μ λκ³ μμΌλ©°, μλμ μΌλ‘ λ μ κ·ΌνκΈ° μ¬μ΄ κ°κ²©λλ‘ ν¬μ§μ λλμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λ©΄ PreservΓ©λ ν리미μ μμ₯μ �겨λ₯νκ³ μμΌλ©°, λ μ±μν κ³ κ°μΈ΅κ³Ό κ³ κΈ ν΄λ¦¬λ νκ²½μμμ μ¬μ©μ μΌλμ λκ³ κ°λ°λμμ΅λλ€. 5λ νλ₯Ό λ΄λ€λ΄€μ λ, μμ§ν λ§μλ리면 λ μ ν λͺ¨λ μλΉν μ±μ₯ μ μ¬λ ₯μ κ°μ§κ³ μλ€κ³ λ΄ λλ€. νμ§λ§ μμ₯ κ·λͺ¨ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ 보면 PreservΓ©κ° λ ν° λ§€μΆ κΈ°μ¬λλ₯Ό λ³΄μΌ κ°λ₯μ±μ΄ λλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ΄λ ν리미μ μμ₯μ λ§μ§μ΄ λ λκ³ , νκ² κ³ κ°μΈ΅μ ꡬ맀λ ₯μ΄ λ κ°νκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. λ€λ§ Miaλ λ³Όλ₯¨ μΈ‘λ©΄μμλ μλΉν μ±μ₯μ λ³΄μΌ κ²μΌλ‘ μμνλ©°, λΈλλ μΈμ§λ ꡬμΆκ³Ό μμ₯ μ§μ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ€μν μν μ ν κ²μ λλ€. κ²°κ΅ λ μ νμ μλ‘ λ€λ₯Έ μμ₯ μΈκ·Έλ¨ΌνΈμμ μνΈ λ³΄μμ μΈ μν μ νκ² λ κ²μΌλ‘ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. Thanks, Matt. Both Mia and PreservΓ© are part of our minimally invasive platform, and they work very complementary. Mia is for procedures, 2 cup sizes, it's transactxillary. It's not for every patient or every surgeon. And I think when you look at PreservΓ©, it's much broader than what we call for everyday uses. You can have different or more types of procedures, you can go more cup sizes. So I think in general, I think you're going to see both of them playing quite well together because you could have a Mia patient that -- or something that's interested in Mia that's not going to be the right patient, and they easily shift to PreservΓ©. And I think over time, I would suspect that PreservΓ© would be larger than Mia because it attracts to more patients and also more surgeons. But what we are very pleased about so far in the launch in Europe is not only have we gotten a very strong interest, but we're also finding that it has not cannibalized our EMEA business. In fact, a number of clinics that are signed up for EA are also taking on Preservation. So they're seeing the value of leveraging both types of procedures. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Matt. Miaμ PreservΓ© λͺ¨λ μ ν¬ μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌμ μΌλΆμ΄λ©°, μλ‘ λ§€μ° μνΈλ³΄μμ μΌλ‘ μλν©λλ€. Miaλ μμ μ©μΌλ‘ 2μ»΅ μ¬μ΄μ¦κΉμ§μ΄κ³ , 겨λλμ΄λ₯Ό ν΅ν μ κ·Όλ²μ
λλ€. λͺ¨λ νμλ λͺ¨λ μΈκ³Όμμκ² μ ν©ν κ²μ μλλλ€. PreservΓ©λ₯Ό 보면, μ ν¬κ° μΌμμ μ¬μ©μ΄λΌκ³ λΆλ₯΄λ κ²λ³΄λ€ ν¨μ¬ κ΄λ²μν©λλ€. λ€μν μ νμ μμ μ΄ κ°λ₯νκ³ , λ λ§μ μ»΅ μ¬μ΄μ¦κΉμ§ λμν μ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ λ°μ μΌλ‘ λ μ νμ΄ ν¨κ» λ§€μ° μ μλν κ²μΌλ‘ 보λλ°, Miaμ κ΄μ¬μ΄ μλ νμλΌλ μ ν©νμ§ μμ κ²½μ°κ° μμ μ μκ³ , κ·Έλ° κ²½μ° μ½κ² PreservΓ©λ‘ μ νν μ μκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. μκ°μ΄ μ§λλ©΄μ PreservΓ©κ° Miaλ³΄λ€ λ ν° κ·λͺ¨κ° λ κ²μΌλ‘ μμνλλ°, λ λ§μ νμλ€κ³Ό λ λ§μ μΈκ³Όμλ€μκ² μ΄ννκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ§κΈκΉμ§ μ λ½ μΆμμμ λ§€μ° λ§μ‘±μ€λ¬μ΄ μ μ κ°ν κ΄μ¬μ λ°κ³ μμ λΏλ§ μλλΌ, EMEA μ¬μ μ μ μ ν¨κ³Όκ° μλ€λ κ²μ λλ€. μ€μ λ‘ EAμ κ°μ ν μ¬λ¬ ν΄λ¦¬λλ€μ΄ Preservationλ ν¨κ» λμ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ€μ λ κ°μ§ μμ μ νμ λͺ¨λ νμ©νλ κ²μ κ°μΉλ₯Ό μΈμνκ³ μλ κ²μ λλ€. |
Operator: Next question comes from Mason Cariso at Stephens | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ μ€ν°λΈμ€μ λ©μ΄μ¨ 카리μλκ»μ μ£Όμ μ§λ¬Έμ λλ€. |
Mason Owen Carrico: At your Investor Day, you called out an initiative to place permanent consignment inventory at some of your largest customers. I was just curious, how is that initiative going? Have you seen any impact on utilization at accounts where you have placed that inventory? | **Mason Owen Carrico:** ν¬μμμ λ μμ μ£Όμ λν κ³ κ°μ¬μ μꡬ μν μ¬κ³ λ₯Ό λ°°μΉνλ μ΄λμ ν°λΈμ λν΄ λ§μνμ ¨λλ°μ. μ΄ μ΄λμ ν°λΈκ° μ΄λ»κ² μ§νλκ³ μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. μν μ¬κ³ λ₯Ό λ°°μΉν κ³ κ°μ¬μμ νμ©λ₯ μ μ΄λ€ μν₯μ λ³΄μ ¨λμ? |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. So that's -- I think that's going very well. We've reached over 100 accounts where we have permanent consignment. And I think that's really been a process for us to get the inventory into the U.S. And I think that's one of the reasons why Raj highlighted earlier, there's a lot more air shipments just to get the inventory into the U.S. And so we've been able to get that in the market, and it certainly helps in terms of enhancing the utilization rate, and it also improves our ability to kind of get products out to the clinics. in a timely manner. So it has been -- it's been a process kind of getting it to that level. We continue to expand the number of accounts as we get more products into the market and also as we sign up more clinics. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, λ§€μ° μ μ§νλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μꡬ μννλ§€(permanent consignment) κ³μ μ΄ 100κ°λ₯Ό λμ΄μ°μ΅λλ€. μ΄λ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μ¬κ³ λ₯Ό ν보νλ κ³Όμ μ΄μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ Rajκ° μμ κ°μ‘°ν μ΄μ μ€ νλμΈλ°, λ―Έκ΅μΌλ‘ μ¬κ³ λ₯Ό λ€μ¬μ€κΈ° μν΄ ν곡 μ΄μ‘μ΄ ν¨μ¬ λ§μμ‘μ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ μμ₯μ μ νμ 곡κΈν μ μκ² λμκ³ , μ΄λ νμ€ν κ°λλ₯ (utilization rate) ν₯μμ λμμ΄ λλ©°, λ³μλ€μ μ μμ μ νμ 곡κΈν μ μλ λ₯λ ₯λ κ°μ λμμ΅λλ€. μ΄ μμ€μ λλ¬νκΈ°κΉμ§ νλμ κ³Όμ μ΄μμ΅λλ€. λ λ§μ μ νμ μμ₯μ μΆμνκ³ λ λ§μ λ³μκ³Ό κ³μ½μ 체결νλ©΄μ κ³μ μλ₯Ό κ³μ νλν΄ λκ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
Mason Owen Carrico: Got it. And then could you just update us on the U.S. sales force expansion? Where does that team stand today? Have your expectations around pacing hires changed at all? | **Mason Owen Carrico:** λ€, μκ² μ΅λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μμ ν νμ₯ νν©μ λν΄ λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. νμ¬ ν κ·λͺ¨λ μ΄λ μ λμ΄κ³ , μ±μ© μλμ λν κΈ°λμΉμ λ³νκ° μμλμ§μ? |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. So right now, as I mentioned in the last call, we are up to 43 reps in the U.S. As we are looking to go into next year, we're probably going to be adding 10 to 15 reps -- and then on top of that, management roles or leadership roles in the sales organization. But from a rep standpoint, 10 to 15, and a lot of that is to cover some of the areas as we enhance penetration in some of the geographies, we're going to need a little bit more coverage there, but also in preparation for the PreservΓ© launch. So some of that's going to be starting in the back half of Q4, but also a majority of that's going to be in the first quarter as we continue to ramp up our sales and in preparation for PreservΓ©, we're going to be enhancing our sales force. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, μ§λ μ½μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄ νμ¬ λ―Έκ΅μμ 43λͺ
μ μμ
λ΄λΉμλ₯Ό λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ΄λ
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μ λ΄λΉμλ₯Ό μΆκ°ν μμ μ΄κ³ , κ·Έ μΈμλ μμ
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λλ€. λ΄λΉμ κ΄μ μμλ 10~15λͺ
μ λμΈλ°, μ΄λ μΌλΆ μ§μμμ μΉ¨ν¬μ¨μ λμ΄λ©΄μ ν΄λΉ μ§μλ€μ μ’ λ 컀λ²νκΈ° μν κ²μ΄κΈ°λ νκ³ , PreservΓ© μΆμλ₯Ό μ€λΉνκΈ° μν κ²μ΄κΈ°λ ν©λλ€. μΌλΆλ 4λΆκΈ° νλ°λΆν° μμλ μμ μ΄μ§λ§, λλΆλΆμ 1λΆκΈ°μ μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§ κ²μ λλ€. μμ λ ₯μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ νλνκ³ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό μ€λΉνλ©΄μ μμ νμ κ°νν΄ λκ° μμ μ λλ€. |
Operator: The next question is a follow-up from Josh Jennings at TD Cowen. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ TD Cowenμ Josh Jenningsλ‘λΆν° μΆκ° μ§λ¬Έμ λλ€. |
Joshua Thomas Jennings: I wanted to build on Matt Taylor's question. You can ask it already, but you talked about the potential for EMEA accounts to adopt PreservΓ©. And I was just thinking about the U.S. strategy in terms of launching PreservΓ© first here and then Mia kind of setting the stage and then introducing Mia. And internationally, you've had Mia commercialized now with the PreservΓ© launch. I mean do you think PreservΓ© ultimately can drive increased adoption and utilization of Mia? I think you talked about Mia accounts adopting PreservΓ© and do you think it can go the other way as well? I mean we think it can. And then secondly, the last follow-up is just on the limited launch dynamics in the U.S. You had that training session down in Costa Rica with the U.S. Motiva revenue guidance update, we're assuming minimal contribution from PreservΓ© in the second half of '25 and then more meaningful in 2026. So maybe just refresh on whether PreservΓ© is included in that update for the U.S. Motiva revenue. | **Joshua Thomas Jennings:** Matt Taylorμ μ§λ¬Έμ μ΄μ΄μ λ§μλλ¦¬κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ―Έ μ§λ¬Ένμ€ μ μμ§λ§, EMEA κ³ κ°λ€μ΄ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό λμ
ν κ°λ₯μ±μ λν΄ λ§μνμ
¨λλ°μ. λ―Έκ΅ μ λ΅ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μκ°ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, μ¬κΈ°μ λ¨Όμ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό μΆμνκ³ Miaκ° κΈ°λ°μ λ§λ ¨ν λ€μ Miaλ₯Ό λμ
νλ λ°©μμ΄μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ°λ° ν΄μΈμμλ PreservΓ© μΆμμ ν¨κ» Miaκ° μ΄λ―Έ μμ©νλμ΄ μλ μν©μ΄μ£ . PreservΓ©κ° κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ Miaμ λμ
λ₯ κ³Ό νμ©λ μ¦κ°λ₯Ό 견μΈν μ μλ€κ³ 보μλμ§μ? Mia κ³ κ°λ€μ΄ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό λμ
νλ κ²μ λν΄ λ§μνμ
¨λλ°, λ°λ λ°©ν₯μΌλ‘λ κ°λ₯νλ€κ³ μκ°νμλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. μ ν¬λ κ°λ₯νλ€κ³ μκ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ λ²μ§Έ νμ μ§λ¬Έμ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μ νμ μΆμ μνμ κ΄ν κ²μ λλ€. μ½μ€ν리카μμ λ―Έκ΅ νκ³Ό κ΅μ‘ μΈμ μ μ§ννμ ¨λλ°μ. Motiva λ§€μΆ κ°μ΄λμ€ μ λ°μ΄νΈμ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ, μ ν¬λ 25λ νλ°κΈ°μλ PreservΓ©μ κΈ°μ¬λκ° μ΅μνμΌ κ²μΌλ‘ κ°μ νκ³ μκ³ , 2026λ μλ λ μλ―Έ μλ μμ€μ΄ λ κ²μΌλ‘ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ λ―Έκ΅ Motiva λ§€μΆ μ λ°μ΄νΈμ PreservΓ©κ° ν¬ν¨λμ΄ μλμ§μ λν΄ λ€μ νλ² νμΈν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ μ’κ² μ΅λλ€. |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. Thanks, Josh. In terms of the U.S. launch, we're going to be launching PreservΓ© first. As I mentioned, it's in the first half of 2026. And I think it's going to be a great introduction into our minimally invasive platform. I think it's very consistent to the type of procedures that surgeons currently do in the U.S. And then I think once we have that established, I think the Mia business, the Mia opportunity, once we get the regulatory approval for Ergo2, which we plan on submitting the early part of 2026. So depending on that approval timing, we will really dictate our launch timing with Mia. But I think it's going to be a great add-on to PreservΓ©. And then I think your second question was the early experience for PreservΓ©. We're not expecting really a significant or even really an impact in terms of our revenue guidance for Motiva in 2025. I think this is really, as we said, intended to be an opportunity for us to learn and really hone our strategy in terms of launching it in the U.S. So I think the revenue potential for PreservΓ© in the U.S. is very small, and that's not how we're really kind of looking at that, and we don't really have that as a part of -- currently as part of the guidance. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μΆμμ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μλ PreservΓ©λ₯Ό λ¨Όμ μΆμν μμ μ
λλ€. λ§μλλ¦° λλ‘ 2026λ
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Operator: We have no further questions. I will turn the call back over to Peter Caldini for closing comments. | **Operator:** λ μ΄μ μ§λ¬Έμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. λ§λ¬΄λ¦¬ λ°μΈμ μν΄ Peter Caldiniμκ² λ€μ λ겨λλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. |
Fillipo Peter Caldini: Yes. Thank you, operator, and thanks for everybody joining the call today. I look forward to seeing everybody in the next call. And hopefully, you get a chance to enjoy what a little bit left of the summer and look forward to getting together again in the near future. Thank you. | **Fillipo Peter Caldini:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ€λ ν΅νμ μ°Έμ¬ν΄ μ£Όμ λͺ¨λ λΆλ€κ» κ°μ¬λ립λλ€. λ€μ ν΅νμμ μ¬λ¬λΆμ λ€μ λ΅κΈ°λ₯Ό κΈ°λνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ¨μ μ¬λ¦μ μ‘°κΈμ΄λΌλ μ¦κΈ°μ€ μ μκΈ°λ₯Ό λ°λΌλ©°, κ°κΉμ΄ μμΌ λ΄μ λ€μ λ§λ μ μκΈ°λ₯Ό κΈ°λν©λλ€. κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. |
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines. | **Operator:** μ μ¬ μλ μ¬λ¬λΆ, μ€λ 컨νΌλ°μ€ μ½μ λ§μΉκ² μ΅λλ€. μ°Έμ¬ν΄ μ£Όμ μ κ°μ¬λ리며, μ νλ₯Ό λμ΄μ£ΌμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. |
Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call in Korean:
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