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๐Ÿ“„ Earnings Call Transcript ๋ฒˆ์—ญ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ

๐Ÿ“Š Presentation

Original Translation
Kering SA (OTCPK:PPRUF) Q2 2025 Earnings Call July 29, 2025 ET

Company Participants

Armelle Poulou - Chief Financial Officer
Francesca Bellettini - Deputy CEO
Jean-Marc Duplaix - Deputy CEO & COO

Conference Call Participants

Antoine Belge - BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division
Carole Gladys Madjo - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division
Charles-Louis Scotti - Kepler Cheuvreux, Research Division
Chiara Battistini - JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division
Edouard Aubin - Morgan Stanley, Research Division
Erwan Rambourg - HSBC Global Investment Research
James Robert Grzinic - Jefferies LLC, Research Division
Louise Susan Singlehurst - Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division
Oliver Chen - TD Cowen, Research Division
Thomas Vincent Chauvet - Citigroup Inc.
์ผ€๋ง SA (OTCPK:PPRUF) 2025๋…„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ 2025๋…„ 7์›” 29์ผ ET

ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ฐธ์„์ž

์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ ํ’€๋ฃจ - ์ตœ๊ณ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ฑ…์ž„์ž
ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด ๋ฒจ๋ ˆํ‹ฐ๋‹ˆ - ๋ถ€CEO
์žฅ-๋งˆ๋ฅดํฌ ๋’คํ”Œ๋ ˆ - ๋ถ€CEO ๊ฒธ COO

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

์•™ํˆฌ์•ˆ ๋ฒจ๊ฒŒ - BNP ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ” ์—‘์‚ฐ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์บ๋กค ๊ธ€๋ž˜๋””์Šค ๋งˆ์กฐ - ๋ฐ”ํด๋ ˆ์ด์ฆˆ ์€ํ–‰ PLC, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์ƒค๋ฅผ-๋ฃจ์ด ์Šค์ฝ”ํ‹ฐ - ์ผ€ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ ์‡ ๋ธŒ๋ขฐ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
ํ‚ค์•„๋ผ ๋ฐ”ํ‹ฐ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‹ˆ - JP๋ชจ๊ฑด ์ฒด์ด์Šค ์•ค ์ปดํผ๋‹ˆ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์—๋‘์•„๋ฅด ์˜ค๋ฑ… - ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์—๋ฅด์™„ ๋ž‘๋ถ€๋ฅด - HSBC ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํˆฌ์ž ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜
์ œ์ž„์Šค ๋กœ๋ฒ„ํŠธ ๊ทธ๋ฅด์ง€๋‹‰ - ์ œํ”„๋ฆฌ์Šค LLC, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋ฃจ์ด์ฆˆ ์ˆ˜์ž” ์‹ฑ๊ธ€ํ—ˆ์ŠคํŠธ - ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ ์‚ญ์Šค ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ธํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฒ„ ์ฒธ - TD ์ฝ”์›ฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
ํ† ๋งˆ์Šค ๋นˆ์„ผํŠธ ์‡ผ๋ฒ  - ์‹œํ‹ฐ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ธํฌ
Exchange Research
Zuzanna Pusz - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Operator

Welcome to the Kering 2025 First Half Results Conference Call and Webcast. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]

At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Armelle Poulou, Group Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, madam. Armelle Poulou

Good evening to all of you. Welcome to Kering's 2025 First Half Results Call. I will start with comments on the period and second quarter and will be joined by Francesca Bellettini, and Jean-Marc Duplaix, our Deputy CEOs for the Q&A session. Starting on Slide 5.
๊ตํ™˜ ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜
์ฃผ์ž”๋‚˜ ํ‘ธ์‹œ - UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋จผํŠธ ๋ฑ…ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ

์‚ฌํšŒ์ž

์ผ€์–ด๋ง 2025๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ๋ฐ ์›น์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋Š” ๋…น์Œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. [์‚ฌํšŒ์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด์‚ฌํ•ญ]

์ด์ œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋ฅผ ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ ํ’€๋ฃจ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ตœ๊ณ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ฑ…์ž„์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ ํ’€๋ฃจ

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ์ผ€์–ด๋ง 2025๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ฝœ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„๊ณผ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์œผ๋ฉฐ, Q&A ์„ธ์…˜์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ถ€CEO์ธ ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด ๋ฒจ๋ ˆํ‹ฐ๋‹ˆ์™€ ์žฅ-๋งˆ๋ฅดํฌ ๋’คํ”Œ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 5๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In the first half, our houses stepped up the expression of their exceptional craftsmanship and innovative offer driving desirability. Bottega Veneta celebrated the 50th anniversary of its signature Intrecciato weave, with the craft is our language campaign, highlighting the universal language of hand gestures. At Gucci, the GT Obsession campaign, attributed to the roots of the house, featuring its iconic monogram design through distinctive products and successful introductions like the Giglio bag. Boucheron's latest high jewelry collection Impermanence represents another odd to nature and pushes industry boundaries in terms of form as well as cutting-edge materials and techniques.์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ €ํฌ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋“ค์€ ํƒ์›”ํ•œ ์žฅ์ธ์ •์‹ ๊ณผ ํ˜์‹ ์ ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„๋ฅผ ๋†’์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€๋Š” ์‹œ๊ทธ๋‹ˆ์ฒ˜ ์ธํŠธ๋ ˆ์น˜์•„ํ†  ์œ„๋น™์˜ 50์ฃผ๋…„์„ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ•˜๋ฉฐ 'craft is our language' ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์†์ง“์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋ณดํŽธ์  ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์˜ ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋˜์งš๋Š” GT Obsession ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ƒ์ง•์ ์ธ ๋ชจ๋…ธ๊ทธ๋žจ ๋””์ž์ธ์„ ํŠน์ƒ‰ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๋ฐฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€์‰๋ก ์˜ ์ตœ์‹  ํ•˜์ด์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜ 'Impermanence'๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฐฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ํ˜•ํƒœ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ ์†Œ์žฌ์™€ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ• ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„“ํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Balenciaga closed a decade under Demna vision with an exhibition in Paris, showcasing its transformative work, both the reinterpreting the aesthetic of the house and redefining modern naturally in the process. On the operational front, we raised control over our supply chain and secured advanced expertise in luxury eyewear thanks to a small- scale acquisition of long-term partners in Italy. Kering remains fully committed to cultivating the next generation of talent and unlocking opportunities.๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ๋ฏ€๋‚˜์˜ ๋น„์ „ ํ•˜์— 10๋…„์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ „์‹œํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ „์‹œํšŒ๋Š” ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์˜ ๋ฏธํ•™์„ ์žฌํ•ด์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ํ˜„๋Œ€์  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›€์„ ์žฌ์ •์˜ํ•œ ํ˜์‹ ์ ์ธ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์˜ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ†ต์ œ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์˜ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์†Œ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ธ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด์›จ์–ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ€์–ด๋ง์€ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ์ธ์žฌ ์–‘์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ธฐํšŒ ์ฐฝ์ถœ์— ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This is exemplified by our dynamic partnership with 0-93 lab, a nonprofit cultural initiative active in a suburb of Paris, and also by the extension of the Kering generation awards to jewelry, the first global price dedicated to sustainable innovation in this segment. On Slide 6, you will find the key figures of the first 6 months. Revenue was EUR 7.6 billion with recurring operating income of EUR 969 million, a 12.8% margin. Year-on-year margin dilution was 470 basis points, a touch better than the 500 basis points we had hinted to earlier this year, reflecting our efforts to control and optimize our cost base.์ด๋Š” ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ๊ต์™ธ์—์„œ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์˜๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ™” ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์ธ 0-93 lab๊ณผ์˜ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ๊ณผ, ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ˜์‹ ์— ์ „๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ƒ์ธ ์ผ€์–ด๋ง ์ œ๋„ˆ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜ ์–ด์›Œ๋“œ์˜ ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ํ™•์žฅ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 6์—์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ฃผ์š” ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 76์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์˜์—…์ด์ต์€ 9์–ต 6,900๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ 12.8%์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํฌ์„์€ 470bp์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ดˆ ์•”์‹œํ–ˆ๋˜ 500bp๋ณด๋‹ค ์†Œํญ ์–‘ํ˜ธํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ, ๋น„์šฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฐ˜์˜๋œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Free cash flow from operations came at EUR 2.4 billion after EUR 431 million in CapEx in the first half. Net financial debt of EUR 9.5 billion was EUR 1 billion lower than at year- end. And Kering employed 45,000 employees on June 30, down 4% from December. On Slide 7, first half revenue was down 16% reported and 15% comparable with a 1 point negative FX impact. Q2 revenue trend is very much in line with H1 down 15% comparable. However, FX turned into a substantial 3 percentage point headwind in the quarter. Our first half revenue breakdown by region evolved from 2024.์šด์˜ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ค‘ 4์–ต 3,100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ ์ดํ›„ 24์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 95์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„๋Š” ์—ฐ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ€๋ง์€ 6์›” 30์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 45,000๋ช…์˜ ์ง์›์„ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 12์›” ๋Œ€๋น„ 4% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 7์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 16% ๊ฐ์†Œ, ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 15% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ™˜์œจ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ 1ํฌ์ธํŠธ์˜ ๋ถ€์ •์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 15% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ™˜์œจ์€ ํ•ด๋‹น ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 3ํผ์„ผํ‹ฐ์ง€ ํฌ์ธํŠธ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์—ญํ’์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์€ 2024๋…„๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The contribution of Asia Pacific dropped 3 points: Western Europe, North America and rest of the world, each gained 1 point and Japan was stable. On Slide 8, you have revenue by segment for Q2 and H1. No big surprise here. Comparable growth was pretty similar in both quarters with no or minor changes depending on the segment. On Slide 9, let's move to H1 top line by channel and region. Retail accounting for 73% of revenue was down 16% comparable in both quarters. This is what we had anticipated in April. Overall, Q2 traffic was still weak across most regions, yet with some discrepancies. Continued increases in AUR and average ticket provided some buffer to the drop in volume.์•„์‹œ์•„ ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๋Š” 3ํฌ์ธํŠธ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ, ๋ถ๋ฏธ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ๊ฐ๊ฐ 1ํฌ์ธํŠธ์”ฉ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ผ๋ณธ์€ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 8์—์„œ๋Š” 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋ณ„ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํฐ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋น„๊ต ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๋ฏธํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 9์—์„œ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ฑ„๋„๋ณ„ ๋ฐ ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ๋งค์ถœ ํ˜„ํ™ฉ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 73%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๋‘ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 16% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” 4์›”์— ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ฐ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์œ ์ž…์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ์ฐจ์ด๋Š” ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AUR(ํ‰๊ท  ๋‹จ๊ฐ€)๊ณผ ํ‰๊ท  ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์•ก์˜ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ฐ์†Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์™„์ถฉ ์—ญํ• ์„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ œ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Our footprint at 1,772 stores showed a net decrease of 41 units since year-end. This excludes Kering's integration of its China distribution, adding 17 stores. Gucci was the largest contributor to our network optimization plan with a net decline of 18 units in the first half. The same number of closures occurred in the other houses segment mostly Balenciaga and Alexander McQueen. Our strategy concentrates on fewer but higher-quality locations. It also entails gradually downsizing our presence in outlets with 7 net closures in H1. Wholesale and other revenue accounting for 27% of the total, was down 10% comparable in the first half and 12% in Q2 alone.1,772๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ ํฌ๋ง์€ ์—ฐ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ˆœ 41๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ผ€๋ง์˜ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์œ ํ†ต ํ†ตํ•ฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋œ 17๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ˆœ 18๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ ์ตœ์ ํ™” ๊ณ„ํš์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐํƒ€ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋„ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์˜ ๋งค์žฅ ํ์ ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์™€ ์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋งฅํ€ธ์—์„œ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ „๋žต์€ ๋” ์ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๋†’์€ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์˜ ์ž…์ง€์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ˆœ 7๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ ํ์ ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์•„์šธ๋ ›์—์„œ์˜ ์ž…์ง€๋ฅผ ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ถ•์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 27%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋„๋งค ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 10% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๋…์œผ๋กœ๋Š” 12% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As usual, this covers very different situations. At our luxury houses, wholesale was down 25% in the first half and 28% in Q2, as we continue to bear the impact of getting down this channel in addition to lower orders. In absolute terms, wholesale dropped EUR 279

million in H1. We are in line with our planned trajectory for the year, implying a minor decrease in H2. This decline was partly offset by growth in wholesale at Kering Eyewear & Beaute, up 2% and by a 9% increase in royalties and other revenue. On Slide 10, a closer look at retail by region. Overall, worldwide retail trends were similar in Q1 and Q2. But by region, notable changes occurred.
ํ‰์†Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒํ™ฉ๋“ค์„ ํฌ๊ด„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์—์„œ ๋„๋งค๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 25%, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 28% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ฐ์†Œ์™€ ๋”๋ถˆ์–ด ์ด ์ฑ„๋„์˜ ์ถ•์†Œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ˆ๋Œ€์•ก ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋„๋งค๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 2์–ต 7,900๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ„ํš๋œ ๊ถค๋„์— ๋ถ€ํ•ฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์†Œํญ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋Š” ์ผ€์–ด๋ง ์•„์ด์›จ์–ด & ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ์˜ ๋„๋งค ์„ฑ์žฅ 2%์™€ ๋กœ์—ดํ‹ฐ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์ˆ˜์ต์˜ 9% ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 10์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ์†Œ๋งค ํ˜„ํ™ฉ์„ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์†Œ๋งค ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์œ ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„๋กœ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The main feature was tourism spending, which clearly slowed down in Q2, impacted by currency moves and growing uncertainty. Depending on brands and regions, the magnitude of repatriation in holistic market was uneven. In Western Europe, Q2 decelerated sequentially, down 17% comparable. Local demand was still subdued and tourism spending worsen, though not consistently across brands. North America was down 10% comparable, 3 percentage points better than Q1. Polarization based on positioning persisted and Bottega Veneta continued to outperform. Gucci improved by 6 percentage points sequentially, an encouraging trend.์ฃผ์š” ํŠน์ง•์€ ๊ด€๊ด‘ ์ง€์ถœ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ™˜์œจ ๋ณ€๋™๊ณผ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ์ง€์—ญ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ „์ฒด ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณธ๊ตญ ์†ก๊ธˆ์˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ๊ณ ๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์–ด ๋™์ผ ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 17% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์ง€ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ด€๊ด‘ ์ง€์ถœ์ด ์•…ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ผ๊ด€๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ๋ฏธ๋Š” ๋™์ผ ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 10% ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 3%ํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ์ง€์…”๋‹์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ํ•œ ์–‘๊ทนํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ 6%ํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์–ด ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ธ ์ถ”์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In Q2, Gucci also did better with the American cluster, which was a touch softer for both of our other brands. Japan, down 29% comparable in Q2 was the region most impacted by weaker tourism spending due to less attractive exchange rate and price gap compounding high comps. Asia Pacific declined 19% comparable in Q2 but posted a 6-point sequential improvement. Better trends in the region were driven by repatriation of spending with Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macao, but also Singapore, improving sequentially although still down double digits. The Chinese cluster was broadly in line with Q1, down high 20s.2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์—์„œ๋„ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‘ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ง€์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ณธ์€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์ผ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 29% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ™˜์œจ ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฝ๊ณผ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ๊ฒฉ์ฐจ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ ์ง€์ถœ ์•ฝํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋†’์€ ๊ธฐ์ €ํšจ๊ณผ์™€ ๋งž๋ฌผ๋ ค ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ํƒ€๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ์ง€์—ญ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ์•„ ํƒœํ‰์–‘์€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์ผ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 19% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ „๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 6ํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋œ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ† , ํ™์ฝฉ, ๋งˆ์นด์˜ค๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ฑ๊ฐ€ํฌ๋ฅด์—์„œ์˜ ์ง€์ถœ ๋ณธ๊ตญ ํšŒ๊ท€์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋Š” 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ๋Œ€์ฒด๋กœ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ 20%๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In the quarter, about 1/4 of spending by Chinese customers took place outside of their home market and close to 80% of their overseas spending remain in Asia, including Japan. Finally, rest of the world turned negative, down 5% comparable in Q2 as events impacted the Middle East. On Slide 11, an overview of recurring operating income, CapEx, free cash flow from operations and net debt. Recurring operating income was EUR 969 million, down 39% year-on-year. Gross margin was down as expected, reflecting different dynamics across brands. In most cases, regional and product mix remained a headwind, partly mitigated for some of our brands by positive channel mix.์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ค‘๊ตญ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ง€์ถœ์˜ ์•ฝ 1/4์ด ๋ณธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ•ด์™ธ ์ง€์ถœ์˜ 80% ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ณธ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์ง€์—ญ์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์ค‘๋™ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด๋“ค์ด ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋ฉด์„œ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์ผ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 5% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜์—ฌ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 11์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์˜์—…์ด์ต, ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ, ์˜์—…ํ™œ๋™ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๋ฐ ์ˆœ๋ถ€์ฑ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์š”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์˜์—…์ด์ต์€ 9์–ต 6,900๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 39% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ƒ์ดํ•œ ์—ญํ•™๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ๋ฐ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ฏน์Šค๊ฐ€ ์—ญํ’์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ–ˆ์œผ๋‚˜, ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ฑ„๋„ ๋ฏน์Šค๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์™„ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Our OpEx efforts initiated over a year ago are bearing fruit. I will come back in more detail shortly. With actions to contain operating leverage starting to really kick in, the EBIT margin came at 12.8%. Recurring EBITDA decline was more moderate down 23% year-on-year as well as the EBITDA margin down 2.3 percentage points. CapEx to sales stood at 5.2%, excluding real estate, attached below H1 2024. In absolute terms, CapEx was EUR 431 million, a very significant decrease year-on- year and down 20%, excluding real estate. Free cash flow was EUR 2.4 billion in H1 or EUR 1.1 billion after real estate operations.1๋…„ ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์šด์˜๋น„ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๊ฒฐ์‹ค์„ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์˜ ๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€๋ฅผ ์–ต์ œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์ด ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„์€ 12.8%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์ƒ EBITDA ๊ฐ์†Œํญ์€ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 23% ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์™„๋งŒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, EBITDA ๋งˆ์ง„์€ 2.3%ํฌ์ธํŠธ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์„ค๋น„ํˆฌ์ž ๋น„์œจ์€ ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  5.2%๋กœ 2024๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜ํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ธˆ์•ก ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋น„ํˆฌ์ž๋Š” 4์–ต 3,100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งค์šฐ ํฐ ํญ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๋ฉด 20% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ 24์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์šด์˜ ํ›„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” 11์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operating working capital stood at 18.1% of last 12-month revenue in line with H1 last year. Net financial debt, excluding lease liabilities, was EUR 9.5 billion at June 30, a EUR 1 billion improvement compared to year-end as we execute on our deleveraging trajectory. On Slide 12, a deeper look at our initiatives to enhance agility through cost efficiencies and discipline. The first bucket regards the store network, where the goal is to rightsize while further upgrading client experience and brand perception. Comprehensive review of our houses footprint is ongoing, encompassing many criteria.์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ์€ ์ง€๋‚œ 12๊ฐœ์›” ๋งค์ถœ ๋Œ€๋น„ 18.1%๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ์Šค ๋ถ€์ฑ„๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„๋Š” 6์›” 30์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 95์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๋””๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง• ๊ถค๋„ ์‹คํ–‰์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์—ฐ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 12์—์„œ๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ทœ์œจ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฏผ์ฒฉ์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๊ณ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜์—ญ์€ ๋งค์žฅ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋กœ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ธ์‹์„ ๋”์šฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉด์„œ ์ ์ • ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์กฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ ๋งค์žฅ ์ž…์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํฌ๊ด„์ ์ธ ๊ฒ€ํ† ๊ฐ€ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In the full year, we should achieve a net reduction of up to 80 units significantly exceeding the 50-unit target we had mentioned in February. The second bucket relates to A&P. We have decided to keep the level of spending at a high single-digit percentage of revenue, both in H1 and for the full year. This allows us to sustain brand visibility to amplify the debut of new designers in H2 while adapting to the current environment, focusing on relative intensity and on the highest AOI initiatives and campaigns. And finally, other expenses that notably include SG&A.์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ตœ๋Œ€ 80๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ์˜ ์ˆœ ๊ฐ์ถ•์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 2์›”์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ 50๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P)์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๋งค์ถœ ๋Œ€๋น„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ํ›„๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์˜ ์ง€์ถœ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์„ ์ง€์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ ๊ทœ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐ๋ท”๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๊ฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์—, ํ˜„์žฌ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์— ์ ์‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ƒ๋Œ€์  ์ง‘์ค‘๋„์™€ ์ตœ๊ณ  AOI ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋ฐ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์— ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ SG&A๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋น„์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In this area, we are scrutinizing every expense line, renegotiating with vendors, launching new RFP, questioning our ways of operating what can be downsized, what must be restructured. We launched all these initiatives in H1 last year and amplified them in H2. This first half, group OpEx was down 11% reported or more than EUR 550 million with a substantial contribution from fixed costs, lowering our future base. On a more demand income base in H2 and also to protect some resources, notably in terms of A&P, we anticipate group OpEx to be down mid- to high single digits for the full year. Moving to our houses, starting with Gucci on Slide 14.์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„์šฉ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์„ ๋ฉด๋ฐ€ํžˆ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์™€ ์žฌํ˜‘์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œ์•ˆ์š”์ฒญ์„œ(RFP)๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ , ์šด์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋˜์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ถ•์†Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฅผ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 11% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 5์–ต 5์ฒœ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ์ด์ƒ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ์ •๋น„์šฉ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋กœ ํ–ฅํ›„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ท„์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ˆ˜์š” ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์˜ ์ˆ˜์ต ๊ตฌ์กฐ์™€ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ž์›, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P) ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ์˜ ์ž์›์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด, ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ค‘๊ฐ„์—์„œ ๋†’์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ 14ํŽ˜์ด์ง€ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ์˜ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋“ค๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
H1 revenue stood at EUR 3 billion, down 25% comparable. Q2 revenue was also down 25% comparable with retail down 23%, 2 percentage points better than Q1, driven by North America and Asia Pacific. AUR was up across categories and average ticket also increased, partially offsetting the drop in traffic. We are highly encouraged by the launches and rejuvenation in leather goods, such as the new Marmont. Emblem, which hit the shelves last year, it's consolidating, its leading position in the product offer. More recently, the GO launch right after the beautiful macro show is off to a strong start, especially in Western markets with denim collaboration quickly sold out.H1 ๋งค์ถœ์€ 30์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€ 25% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Q2 ๋งค์ถœ ์—ญ์‹œ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€ 25% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์€ 23% ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ Q1 ๋Œ€๋น„ 2%ํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ถ๋ฏธ์™€ ์•„์‹œ์•„ ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ์ง€์—ญ์ด ๊ฒฌ์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AUR(ํ‰๊ท  ๋‹จ๊ฐ€)์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ƒ์Šนํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ‰๊ท  ๊ตฌ๋งค์•ก๋„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์œ ์ž… ๊ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋งˆ๋ชฝ(Marmont) ๋“ฑ ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์™€ ๋ฆฌ๋‰ด์–ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ ์ถœ์‹œ๋œ ์— ๋ธ”๋Ÿผ(Emblem)์€ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ผ์ธ์—…์—์„œ ์„ ๋„์  ์ง€์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ณ ํžˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋งคํฌ๋กœ ์‡ผ ์งํ›„ ์ถœ์‹œ๋œ GO๊ฐ€ ํŠนํžˆ ์„œ๊ตฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฐ๋‹˜ ์ฝœ๋ผ๋ณด๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์€ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์™„ํŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The Mini GG should be a hit in Asia. Gucci is speeding up the pace of introductions and refreshment of its offer, the upcoming pipeline is promising. Agility and reactivity are increasing and time to market is shrinking. The presentation of the new creative direction in late September, plan initiative and

activation will build on already reinforce assortment and collection across categories and segments. Wholesale was down 50% in the quarter. The optimal number of those having likely been reached for now. Recurring operating income came at EUR 486 million, a 16% margin, as we expected, gross margin was down an adverse mix.
๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ GG๋Š” ์•„์‹œ์•„์—์„œ ํžˆํŠธ๋ฅผ ์น  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์™€ ๋ฆฌ๋‰ด์–ผ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ–ฅํ›„ ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ์ด ์œ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏผ์ฒฉ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ฑ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ถœ์‹œ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์€ ๋‹จ์ถ•๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 9์›” ๋ง ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์—์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ฑ ๋ฐœํ‘œ, ๊ณ„ํš๋œ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์™€

ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์™€ ์„ธ๊ทธ๋จผํŠธ ์ „๋ฐ˜์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„๋งค๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ค‘ 50% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ตœ์ ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์˜์—…์ด์ต์€ 4์–ต 8,600๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ 16% ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ด๋งˆ์ง„์€ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•œ ๋ฏน์Šค๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operating deleverage was eased by stringent cost savings with OpEx down high teens, including a sharp decline in fixed costs. Gucci is rightsizing and reallocating its resources to enhance efficiency and maximize their impact. A quick update on the distribution network. The House closed 16 net full price stores in the first half and 6 outlets since early 2024. The efforts to upgrade the quality of the retail footprint will continue in H2. Turning to Slide 16. Saint Laurent had H1 revenue of nearly EUR 1.3 billion, down 10% comparable. Retail was down 12% comparable in Q2.์šด์˜ ๋””๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” OpEx๊ฐ€ 10%๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์™„ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ณ ์ •๋น„์˜ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๊ฐ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ทน๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ ์ •ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์›์„ ์žฌ๋ฐฐ์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ํ†ต ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ •๊ฐ€ ๋งค์žฅ 16๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์ˆœ ํ์ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2024๋…„ ์ดˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•„์šธ๋ › 6๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ํ์ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋งค ๊ฑฐ์ ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 16์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ ๋กœ๋ž‘์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์•ฝ 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋™์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 10% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋™์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€ 12% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
New products performed well, resulting in higher sales of ready-to-wear and even more so women shoes, confirming the turnaround of this category. Recently introduced handbags were in high demand but did not make up for the weakness in carryovers. All in all, supported by novelties, full-price stores outperformed. Saint Laurent continues to focus on the introduction of novelties whose increasing success should feed future carryover sales. Wholesale was down 5% in the quarter as the house returned to a more normative calendar, resulting in anticipated deliveries of its full 2025 lines. Kering operating income was EUR 262 million, resulting in an EBIT margin of 20.4%.์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ธฐ์„ฑ๋ณต ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํŠนํžˆ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์‹ ๋ฐœ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ๋”์šฑ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜ ์ด ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ„ด์–ด๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๊ทผ ์ถœ์‹œ๋œ ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์€ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์ง€๋งŒ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ๋ถ€์ง„์„ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ์ •๊ฐ€ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ ๋กœ๋ž‘์€ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต ํ™•๋Œ€๋Š” ํ–ฅํ›„ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ •์œผ๋กœ ๋ณต๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ค‘ 5% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 2025๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ๋ผ์ธ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ •๋œ ๋‚ฉํ’ˆ ์ผ์ •์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ€๋ง์˜ ์˜์—…์ด์ต์€ 2์–ต 6,200๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„์€ 20.4%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gross margin was resilient, and the house is successfully lowering its fixed cost structure while continuing to invest in collections and retail experience. On Slide 18, Bottega Veneta proved resilient in more challenging market conditions, thanks to solid penetration with locals. Revenue was EUR 846 million, up 2% comparable in H1. Retail remained the main driver, up 3% comparable in the 6 months and flat in Q2. By region, growth in North America was very significant, up 18%, but deceleration in Western Europe was steep on tourism softness. Japan decelerated slightly. Asia Pacific was contrasted and Middle East slowdown on very high comps.๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜๊ณผ ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ณ ์ •๋น„ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 18์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€๋Š” ํ˜„์ง€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•œ ์นจํˆฌ๋ ฅ ๋•๋ถ„์— ๋”์šฑ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง„ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋„ ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 8์–ต 4,600๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋™๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋น„ 2% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์ด ์ฃผ์š” ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 6๊ฐœ์›”๊ฐ„ ๋™๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋น„ 3% ์ฆ๊ฐ€, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ณดํ•ฉ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด 18% ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋‚˜, ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์€ ๊ด€๊ด‘์—… ๋ถ€์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ณธ์€ ์†Œํญ ๋‘”ํ™”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ์•„ ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์—‡๊ฐˆ๋ฆฐ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , ์ค‘๋™์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์€ ๊ธฐ์ €ํšจ๊ณผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
AUR continued to increase as did the contribution of core and high-end client segments. The Poetic Bottega Veneta brand campaign I mentioned earlier, paved the way for the new creative development to come in the fall. Wholesale was up 4% in the quarter. Recurring operating income was EUR 127 million, a 50% EBIT margin up versus last year. Gross margin increased and good cost control yielded some operating leverage while investments in store upgrades and client experience continued. On Slide 20, many of the Other Houses had a very challenging first half. Revenue neared EUR 1.5 billion, down 14% comparable. In Q2, revenue was down 16% comparable, materially impacted by wholesale down 28%.AUR์€ ๊ณ„์† ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต๊ณผ ํ•˜์ด์—”๋“œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ƒ์Šนํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€์˜ ์‹œ์ ์ธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์€ ๊ฐ€์„์— ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์—์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์˜ ํ† ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ จํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 4% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์ƒ ์˜์—…์ด์ต์€ 1์–ต 2,700๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„ 50%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์—ฌ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ์Šนํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ ํ†ต์ œ๋กœ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์˜์—… ๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์žฅ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์™€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋Š” ์ง€์†๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 20์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ๊ธฐํƒ€ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 15์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๊ทผ์ ‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‚˜ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 14% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 16% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋„๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด 28% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜์—ฌ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In soft luxury, Balenciaga suffered from severe deceleration in retail trends in Western Europe and Japan, and we are accelerating the restructuring of Alexander McQueen. On a better note, Brioni's performance was up nicely in main markets and channels. Our jewelry houses proved resilient in Q2, Boucheron and Pomellato unveiled stunning high jewelry collections, Kering confirmed its positive momentum. The Other Houses segment posted a recurring operating loss of EUR 29 million in the first half, largely attributable to Alexander McQueen. In the rest of the portfolio, operating deleverage is more limited, thanks to cost control initiatives.์†Œํ”„ํŠธ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ๊ณผ ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ์†Œ๋งค ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋งฅํ€ธ์˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š” ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์–‘ํ˜ธํ•œ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋“ค์€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์„ ์ž…์ฆํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ€์‰๋ก ๊ณผ ํฌ๋ฉœ๋ผํ† ๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ํ•˜์ด ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์„ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜์—ฌ ์ผ€๋ง์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ํ™•์ธ์‹œ์ผœ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐํƒ€ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 2,900๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ƒ ์˜์—…์†์‹ค์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋งฅํ€ธ์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ ํ†ต์ œ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋•๋ถ„์— ์˜์—… ๋””๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ œํ•œ์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We maintain targeting investment at our jewelry brands to expand their reach, offer and awareness. With Slide 22, let's look at the Kering Eyewear and Corporate segment with total revenues of EUR 1.1 billion were up 3% comparable in the first half. In Q2, revenues of Kering Eyewear were up 1% comparable to EUR 921 million. High single-digit growth in Europe was partly offset by slower North America. Overall, optical frames performed better than sunglasses. Kering Beautรฉ had a good quarter and first half, benefiting from successful recent launches of Creed women fragrances.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์˜ ๋„๋‹ฌ ๋ฒ”์œ„, ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ๋ฐ ์ธ์ง€๋„ ํ™•๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 22๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์ผ€๋ง ์•„์ด์›จ์–ด ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ด ๋งค์ถœ์€ 11์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋™์ผ์กฐ๊ฑด ๊ธฐ์ค€ 3% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ผ€๋ง ์•„์ด์›จ์–ด์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๋™์ผ์กฐ๊ฑด ๊ธฐ์ค€ 1% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ 9์–ต 2,100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ์˜ ๋†’์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๋‘”ํ™”๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ด‘ํ•™ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์ด ์„ ๊ธ€๋ผ์Šค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ€๋ง ๋ณดํ…Œ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์ตœ๊ทผ ์ถœ์‹œ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ์–‘ํ˜ธํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The segment's EBIT was up sharply with high profitability at Creed and resilient in Eyewear, withstanding continued investments. Corporate costs were down, reflecting our savings initiatives across the board. Now looking at the remaining lines of the P&L on Slide 23. Total nonrecurring was positive EUR 32 million, the result of many pluses and minuses. On the minus side, we accounted for some impairment, restructuring charges and provisions, more expected in H2. On the plus side, we registered gains on asset sales, namely a building in Tokyo's Omotesando District and the more luxury outlets.ํ•ด๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ EBIT๋Š” Creed์˜ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ํˆฌ์ž์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์ธ Eyewear ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์—… ๋น„์šฉ์€ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 23์˜ ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋น„๊ฒฝ์ƒํ•ญ๋ชฉ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค์™€ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์š”์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋กœ 3,200๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์š”์ธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์†์ƒ, ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ • ๋น„์šฉ ๋ฐ ์ถฉ๋‹น๊ธˆ์„ ๊ณ„์ƒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์š”์ธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‚ฐ ๋งค๊ฐ ์ด์ต์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋„์ฟ„ ์˜ค๋ชจํ…Œ์‚ฐ๋„ ์ง€๊ตฌ์˜ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์•„์šธ๋ › ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์˜ ๋งค๊ฐ ์ด์ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Net financial charges amounted to EUR 280 million or EUR 163 million, excluding interest on lease liabilities. Cost of net debt stood at EUR 164 million, a moderate year-on-year hike. Interest expense was nearly unchanged with a very limited increase in the cost of average debt but rates on cash deposits were lower. Corporate income tax was EUR 199 million, a 27.5% rate on recurring income. Group net income from continuing operations adjusted for nonrecurring items reached EUR 450 million. Free cash flow and net financial debt are on Slides 24 and 25. In the first half, we generated close to EUR 2.4 billion in free cash flow.์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋น„์šฉ์€ 2์–ต 8์ฒœ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋ถ€์ฑ„ ์ด์ž๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๋ฉด 1์–ต 6์ฒœ 3๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆœ๋ถ€์ฑ„๋น„์šฉ์€ 1์–ต 6์ฒœ 4๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์†Œํญ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‰๊ท  ๋ถ€์ฑ„๋น„์šฉ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ด์ž๋น„์šฉ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ณ€๋™์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ˜„๊ธˆ์˜ˆ๊ธˆ ๊ธˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒ•์ธ์„ธ๋Š” 1์–ต 9์ฒœ 9๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์ด์ต ๋Œ€๋น„ 27.5%์˜ ์„ธ์œจ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๊ฒฝ์ƒํ•ญ๋ชฉ์„ ์กฐ์ •ํ•œ ๊ณ„์†์‚ฌ์—… ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 4์–ต 5์ฒœ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„๊ณผ ์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„๋Š” ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 24ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์™€ 25ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 24์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This amount includes the cash inflow from property transactions, notably the deal with Ardian for Parisian assets, and the outright sale in Tokyo. Excluding these operations, free cash flow would be EUR 1.1 billion. At June 30, net financial debt was EUR 9.5 billion, a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 2.3x under our existing definition. For the sake of better comparability, we introduced a new ratio pre-

IFRS 16 on both sides and of which net debt, excluding leases to adjusted recurring EBITDA stands at 3.4x. In the first half, we paid EUR 743 million in dividend, a substantial year-on-year decrease. We also executed on our deleveraging trajectory as you've seen.
์ด ๊ธˆ์•ก์—๋Š” ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ž…์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‚ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ Ardian๊ณผ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์™€ ๋„์ฟ„์—์„œ์˜ ์™„์ „ ๋งค๊ฐ์ด ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•  ๋งŒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๋ฉด ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ 11์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 6์›” 30์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„๋Š” 95์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ์กด ์ •์˜์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ์ˆœ๋ถ€์ฑ„ ๋Œ€ EBITDA ๋น„์œจ์€ 2.3๋ฐฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์–‘์ธก ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ IFRS 16 ์ ์šฉ ์ „ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋น„์œจ์„ ๋„์ž…ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ์ˆœ๋ถ€์ฑ„ ๋Œ€ ์กฐ์ • ๊ฒฝ์ƒ EBITDA ๋น„์œจ์€ 3.4๋ฐฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 7์–ต 4,300๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๋ฐฐ๋‹น๊ธˆ์„ ์ง€๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฐ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜์„œ ๋ณด์‹  ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ถ€์ฑ„ ๊ฐ์ถ• ๊ถค๋„๋ฅผ ์‹คํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
On Slide 26, we thought it was useful to recap where we stand in terms of deleveraging. First, we are working full spectrum to protect and enhance free cash flow generation. We are disciplined in working cap management but the massive reduction in inventories we have achieved now is to be balanced with necessary investment in [ UNE ]. Full year CapEx will be contained with circa EUR 1 billion as we prioritized projects. on M&A and shareholder return, we implement the capital allocation guidelines you are familiar with. M&A is restricted to selective bolt-on acquisitions to reinforce supply chain and internalize production capacity and scale. And the 50% dividend payout ratio is unchanged.์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 26์—์„œ๋Š” ๋””๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง• ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ์ฐฝ์ถœ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ „๋ฐฉ์œ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ทœ์œจ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ์žฌ๊ณ ์ž์‚ฐ์˜ ๋Œ€ํญ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋Š” [UNE]์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ๋งž์ถฐ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ์ •ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ์€ ์•ฝ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์–ต์ œ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

M&A์™€ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ™˜์›์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜์„œ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์ž๋ณธ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ผ์ธ์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. M&A๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์„ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์žฌํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์„ ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ๋ณผํŠธ์˜จ ์ธ์ˆ˜์— ๊ตญํ•œ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  50% ๋ฐฐ๋‹น์„ฑํ–ฅ๋น„์œจ์€ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Coming to monetization of assets. In H1, we reached close to EUR 1.5 billion. In H2 and beyond, we are shooting for an additional EUR 1.7 billion of potential cash in. Regarding financial debt to systematically and proactively refinance our bonds and size favorable market conditions, as you see on the slide. We have a well-spread diversified bond maturity profile as you can see on the graph, with a maturity of 5.6 years on average. Finally, our cash position is robust. A word of conclusion before we take your questions. As you all know, Luca de Meo will join us as CEO in mid-September.์ž์‚ฐ ์ˆ˜์ตํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ 15์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๊ทผ์ ‘ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋Š” ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ 17์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ž ์žฌ์  ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ž…์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ, ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ด๊ณ  ์„ ์ œ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฑ„๊ถŒ์„ ์žฌ์œต์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”„์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด ํ‰๊ท  ๋งŒ๊ธฐ 5.6๋…„์˜ ์ž˜ ๋ถ„์‚ฐ๋œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฑ„๊ถŒ ๋งŒ๊ธฐ ํ”„๋กœํ•„์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ, ์ €ํฌ์˜ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํฌ์ง€์…˜์€ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ ์ „์— ํ•œ ๋ง์”€ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ฃจ์นด ๋ฐ ๋ฉ”์˜ค(Luca de Meo)๊ฐ€ 9์›” ์ค‘์ˆœ์— CEO๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It is, of course, far too early to lay out new directions, but we have started working with him so that it can hit the ground running. In the meantime, we have continued to make advances on a number of fronts as we had been doing before Luca's announcement was made. The impact is not yet evident in the numbers apart from some moderation here and there in the pace of top line deceleration always as a sharp readjustment of our cost base.๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ฑ์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•„์ง ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ด๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ์—…๋ฌด์— ์ฐฉ์ˆ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฃจ์นด์˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐฉ๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ง„์ „์„ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์šฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์˜ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ์žฌ์กฐ์ •๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ์†Œ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์™„ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š”, ๊ทธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์•„์ง ์ˆ˜์น˜์ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But our efforts are clearly visible in our ways of working in the launches of successful new products and campaigns some of which I mentioned in opening, in the drastic cleanup of our distribution with more to come and in the increased agility of our organization. We know that these efforts are carried out at a tough moment for the world economy and for the industry, but we are already and energized for the new chapter in Kering's history that begins in the second half of the year. We are now ready to take your questions.ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์€ ์—…๋ฌด ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ๋ฐ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ - ์ด ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์„œ๋‘์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ •๋œ ์œ ํ†ต๋ง์˜ ๋Œ€๋Œ€์ ์ธ ์ •๋ฆฌ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์กฐ์ง์˜ ๋ฏผ์ฒฉ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๋“ค์ด ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ฒฝ์ œ์™€ ์—…๊ณ„์— ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์ˆ˜ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ์ผ€์–ด๋ง ์—ญ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ํ™œ๋ ฅ์ด ๋„˜์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์žฌ๋ฌด ์‹ค์ :
- 2025๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ 76์–ต ์œ ๋กœ, ์˜์—…์ด์ต 9.69์–ต ์œ ๋กœ (์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  12.8%)
- ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  470bp ํ•˜๋ฝ, ๋‹น์ดˆ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ 500bp ํ•˜๋ฝ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์–‘ํ˜ธ
- ์˜์—…ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ 24์–ต ์œ ๋กœ, ์ˆœ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„ 95์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์—ฐ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œ

โ€ข ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„ ์‹ค์ :
- ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ: ๋งค์ถœ 30์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 25% ๊ฐ์†Œ, ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  16%
- ์ƒ๋กœ๋ž‘: ๋งค์ถœ 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ 10% ๊ฐ์†Œ, ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  20.4%
- ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€: ๋งค์ถœ 8.46์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ 2% ์ฆ๊ฐ€, ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  15%

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์ „๋žต ๋ฐ ์ „๋ง:
- ๋งค์žฅ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ ์ตœ์ ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์—ฐ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ์ตœ๋Œ€ 80๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ ์ˆœ๊ฐ์†Œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ
- ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจํ™” ์ง€์† ์ถ”์ง„์œผ๋กœ ์˜์—…๋น„์šฉ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 11% ๊ฐ์†Œ
- 9์›” ์ค‘์ˆœ ์‹ ์ž„ CEO ์ทจ์ž„ ์˜ˆ์ •, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ „๋žต ์ˆ˜๋ฆฝ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€


โ“ Q&A

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Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Chiara Battistini of JPMorgan.**Operator:** [์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ JPMorgan์˜ Chiara Battistini๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Chiara Battistini: The first question, and I know I see a headline on Bloomberg, but I'll try anyway. If you could give us any color on how to think about the presentation from Demna. For Gucci, we've seen a lot of news flow flying around. So if we could have your take on the timing on the presentation, both into Q4 and into next year, please? That's the first question. Second question on the updated store closures plans from 50 to 80. I was wondering if you could give us more color on the delta, the incremental 30 in terms of regions and in terms of brands, how to think about that? And finally, maybe if I can ask a question on current trading and what you've been seeing in July so far.**Chiara Battistini:** ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ธ”๋ฃธ๋ฒ„๊ทธ ํ—ค๋“œ๋ผ์ธ์„ ๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Ž€๋‚˜์˜ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‰ด์Šค๋“ค์ด ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ๋‚ด๋…„์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ 50๊ฐœ์—์„œ 80๊ฐœ๋กœ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋œ ๋งค์žฅ ํ์‡„ ๊ณ„ํš์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋œ 30๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ณผ 7์›” ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
Francesca Bellettini: Chiara, it's Francesca speaking. I take the first question regarding Demna. I already anticipated in the previous call that September would have a hint on Demna's vision. Demna has been recently more specific. September will be a presentation of a collection, not in a form of a fashion show, but it will remind to people what Gucci is. It's a full collection, and we will then build on this aesthetic with a full fashion show in March. There will be anticipated deliveries in store. The collection will hit the stores fully at the beginning of January, but already in September, we will activate it in a number of stores worldwide. It's a full collection on which Demna has been working and retail merchandising team has been working. So it's the first hint of his vision for Gucci.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๋ฐ๋ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „ ์ฝœ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜ˆ๊ณ ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด 9์›”์— ๋ฐ๋ƒ์˜ ๋น„์ „์„ ์—ฟ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ๋ƒ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ทผ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. 9์›”์—๋Š” ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ ํ˜•ํƒœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ ๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Š” ์™„์ „ํ•œ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๋ฏธํ•™์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ 3์›”์— ์ •์‹ ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์žฅ์—๋Š” ์„ ํ–‰ ๋ฐฐ์†ก์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์€ 1์›” ์ดˆ์— ๋งค์žฅ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋ฏธ 9์›”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ๋ƒ์™€ ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๋จธ์ฒœ๋‹ค์ด์ง• ํŒ€์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•ด์˜จ ์™„์ „ํ•œ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋น„์ „์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฟ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Regarding the stock closure. So yes, we are updating our plan from 50 net to 80 net. It is well spread and balanced across regions, with Gucci representing roughly half of the number. So no specific on any brand, it's quite well spread. And on the current trading, it is quite early in the quarter. What I can say for the moment that so far, the trend in key region is showing a slight improvement versus Q2. If, of course, helped by an easier comp base. If we look by brand, Saint Laurent and Balenciaga are showing quite similar trends to Q2. Gucci is slightly improving. On the other hand, we expect Bottega Veneta to show a slower Q3 as campaigns and product launches are rather planned for Q4.**Armelle Poulou:** ๋งค์žฅ ํ์  ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ˆœ 50๊ฐœ์—์„œ ์ˆœ 80๊ฐœ๋กœ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ž˜ ๋ถ„์‚ฐ๋˜์–ด ๊ท ํ˜•์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์น˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋žต ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน์ • ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ์ง‘์ค‘๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฝค ์ž˜ ๋ถ„์‚ฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์ด๋ผ ์•„์ง ์ด๋ฅธ ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฃผ์š” ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ์˜ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ฎ์•„์ง„ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ƒ ๋กœ๋ž‘๊ณผ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€๋Š” ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ๊ณผ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ณ„ํš๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Next question is from Zuzanna Pusz of UBS.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ UBS์˜ ์ฃผ์ž”๋‚˜ ํ‘ธ์‹œ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Zuzanna Pusz: I would just stick to -- well, actually 2 and 1 follow-up. So maybe on -- to follow up on latest trends. So given that you've been closing stores for Gucci, and I know I asked about it before, but you must be surely seeing some negative space contribution. So is it fair to assume that the like-for-like sort of sales decline is actually narrowing even further than what we've seen in Q2. And in light of that and your comments on current trends I mean, is there any kind of idea you could give us on how we should think about maybe Gucci for Q3? Would I don't know, high teens, mid-teens, sales decline be reasonable also take into account wholesale? Second, on OpEx guidance, I just wanted to clarify if that's on a reported or FX-neutral basis for the full year. I believe it's mid-single digit to high single-digit decline. And then finally, on balance sheet. So obviously, you've been doing a lot to reassure investors about your balance sheet situation, which is great. But is there anything specific else that you're working on top of everything that has been done? Are you may be considering any brand disposals? Any color on that would be very helpful.**Zuzanna Pusz:** ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 2๊ฐœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ 1๊ฐœ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ์‹  ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ๋งค์žฅ์„ ํ์ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด์ „์—๋„ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋™์ผ์ ํฌ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ์†Œํญ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ถ•์†Œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ณผ ํ˜„์žฌ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ง์”€์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ์‹ค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋„๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ 10๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์ด๋‚˜ 10๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„์˜ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์šด์˜๋น„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์ธ์ง€ ํ™˜์œจ ์ค‘๋ฆฝ ๊ธฐ์ค€์ธ์ง€ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜์—์„œ ๋†’์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ˆ์‹ฌ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์˜ค์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•ด์˜จ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์™ธ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ์ง€์š”? ํ˜น์‹œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋งค๊ฐ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€์š”? ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Regarding the closure of stores, I think it's very important to remind that we are aiming to enhance the quality of the network by having fewer but better location, which means that you should not expect a strong impact on the number of square meters of the network because basically, we are closing smaller locations, and we are continuing to open or to enlarge some locations. So all in all, in terms of square meters, there is not a strong effect of the closure on the square meters for this year. Regarding trends, I'm sorry, but I cannot give you a dedication for Gucci for Q3. What we are seeing is an improvement of trends keeping in mind that remember, last year, Q3 was especially weak. So this is important to keep in mind. Regarding your question on OpEx, the indication I gave is based on reported figures.**Armelle Poulou:** ๋งค์žฅ ํ์ ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋” ์ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ž…์ง€๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์€ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์„ ํ์ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์€ ๊ณ„์† ์˜คํ”ˆํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ์ด ๋ฉด์ ์—๋Š” ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์žฅ ๋ฉด์  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ํ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ฃ„์†กํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํŠนํžˆ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. OpEx์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ์ง€ํ‘œ๋Š” ๋ณด๊ณ ๋œ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Yes. Adding on that, that for the first half, as you see, there was an impact of FX. But when we look specifically at OpEx, it was not so material so we prefer to give the guidance in terms of reported terms. And also, you saw what we -- the evolution also of [indiscernible] so you see that it's across the board that we have this discipline, and it does -- it's clearly linked to the answer to your third question in the sense that we have announced at the beginning of the year when we disclose the full year results, the sort of program and ambition for this year, and we are sticking to that ambition. We have mentioned the fact that we would work on the OpEx side. You see the results. We have mentioned that we would be more disciplined in terms of CapEx. It's minus 20% in H1. We had announced some disposal or real estate refinancing, we did it part of it. And we said that we would have additions or a few additional proceeds from real estate operations going forward between '25 and '26, and we continue to work in that direction. I think we have a clear strategy for all the brands, and we are working to execute properly the strategy brand by brand. It does include also some improvement at Alexander McQueen level, which is, as you know, a brand which is challenged. But so far, when it comes to the portfolio of brands, we have no plan of disposal.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ๋„ค, ๋ง๋ถ™์—ฌ์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์™ธํ™˜์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ทœ์œจ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€๊ณผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ์ดˆ ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ๋•Œ ์˜ฌํ•ด์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๊ณผ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ์—์„œ ๋” ์—„๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 20% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ๋งค๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์žฌ์œต์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‹คํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  25๋…„๊ณผ 26๋…„ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์šด์˜์—์„œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์ต์ด ๋ช‡ ๊ฑด ๋” ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์ „๋žต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ „๋žต์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋งฅํ€ธ ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋งค๊ฐ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Next question is from Antoine Belge of BNP Paribas Exane.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ BNP ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ” ์—‘์‚ฐ์˜ ์•™ํˆฌ์•ˆ ๋ฒจ์ง€๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Antoine Belge: It's Antoine at BNP. Three questions. First of all, I understand you don't want to talk too much about what Luca may do or not do, but maybe a bit in terms of the timing of how you could maybe provide a strategic update. Should we intend to do this in a relatively formal way like a Capital Market Day, for instance, or if it's -- or will it be, I don't know, during the Q3 release? Any sort of indication on that will be welcomed. . Second question on the second half outlook. You just printed EUR 916 million of EBIT. I mean, usually, there is a bit of a seasonal trend with a bit less in H2. So I think the -- there will be a bit less cost effect in nature because we are anniversarying some of the efforts that started in H2 last year. And also on your comment that things are only slightly improving versus I think consensus expecting sales down high single digit in the second half. So I don't know do you think that the EUR 1.8 billion in EBIT is feasible, notably with the help of the gross margin? Or do you think that EUR 1.8 billion was not a major improvement in July starts to be a bit challenging? And finally, on Bottega Veneta, trends slowed a bit, and it seems that it's still the case in July. So can you maybe elaborate a little bit on this? And some time when there is a designer transition, there might be a bit of short-term disruption for some reason? So I mean, is there something like that happening at the moment at Bottega?**Antoine Belge:** BNP์˜ Antoine์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ €, ๋ฃจ์นด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ง์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ „๋žต์  ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ธฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ž๋ณธ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋‚ (Capital Market Day)๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋น„๊ต์  ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ๋•Œ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์š”? ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ง€์นจ์ด๋ผ๋„ ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ 9์–ต 1,600๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ EBIT๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ณดํ†ต ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ณ„์ ˆ์  ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์‹œ์ž‘๋œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๋“ค์ด 1๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„๋งŒ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‹œ์žฅ ์ปจ์„ผ์„œ์Šค๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 18์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ EBIT๊ฐ€ ์‹คํ˜„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ์ง€, ํŠนํžˆ ์ด๋งˆ์ง„์˜ ๋„์›€์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 7์›”์— ํฐ ๊ฐœ์„ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด 18์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”?

๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์ธ๋ฐ, ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  7์›”์—๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ ๊ต์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ๋กœ๋“  ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Thank you, Antoine. As regards Luca de Meo, I think it's not the purpose of this call to make an additional update. I think we had organized on purpose a call with Francois Henri last month when we announced the appointment of Luca. As you know, and I won't repeat what has been already said that Luca will -- is set to take office on September 15, following the general meeting that is scheduled already for September 9. To be clear, of course, Luca has already met with several key internal stakeholders in the group, starting with Francois Henri, of course, but also Francesca and myself and is preparing for his formal arrival. And by the way, we are all looking forward to working with him. But of course, it will be up to him to define his road map and to tell you when he will have the occasion to present his ambitions, I think that historically, when you have a new manager on board, there is a time for talking to the market. We could expect that it would be rather in '26. Just giving you the time, even if we are working hard with him just so that it can quite go fast when he will arrive at Kering. So I think we are very -- you know that we have always been very disciplined when it comes to the dialogue with investors and analysts. It has always been the case. So there is no reason why in '26, we will not have a sort of rendezvous to discuss about the ambitions of the group and led by Luca.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ์•ˆํ† ์ธ, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฃจ์นด ๋ฐ ๋ฉ”์˜ค์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ํ†ตํ™”์—์„œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชฉ์ ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฃจ์นด์˜ ์ž„๋ช…์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ง€๋‚œ๋‹ฌ ํ”„๋ž‘์ˆ˜์•„ ์•™๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ†ตํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ จํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฃจ์นด๋Š” 9์›” 9์ผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜ˆ์ •๋œ ์ฃผ์ฃผ์ดํšŒ์— ์ด์–ด 9์›” 15์ผ์— ๊ณต์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ทจ์ž„ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋ฃจ์นด๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๋‚ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋‚ด๋ถ€ ์ดํ•ด๊ด€๊ณ„์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ”„๋ž‘์ˆ˜์•„ ์•™๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘์œผ๋กœ ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด์™€ ์ €๋„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ , ๊ณต์‹ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์„ ์ •์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ธ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋น„์ „์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ชซ์ด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 26๋…„ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ผ€์–ด๋ง์— ๋„์ฐฉํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ทธ์™€ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํˆฌ์ž์ž์™€ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ํ…๋ฐ, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 26๋…„์— ๋ฃจ์นด๊ฐ€ ์ด๋„๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ๋น„์ „์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋งŒ๋‚จ์„ ๊ฐ–์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Regarding the H2 outlook, we are very early in the semester. There are a lot of macro uncertainties. So it's quite difficult to have a clear view. What I can say, and you're true to comment on the fact that we are anniversarying some OpEx cuts that were amplified last year in H2. What I can say at this stage is that we expect EBIT H2 2025 margins to be declining year-on-year, but much less than H1.**Armelle Poulou:** ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ง ํ•™๊ธฐ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์ด๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์ด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์ „๋ง์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ํ™•๋Œ€๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ์šด์˜๋น„ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ์˜ ๊ธฐ์ €ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ˜„ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ 2025๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ํ•˜๋ฝํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฝํญ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ž‘์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francesca Bellettini: I take the question on Bottega Veneta. The brand was penalized by the low traffic environment, in particular, touristic flows. As Armelle was showing, the brand was very strong in America, that is a market mostly driven by locals, keeps being very strong with locals. And the trend slow down in Europe, in Middle East and in Japan, mostly due to low touristic flows. The brand keeps working on its value strategy. The average price continues to increase. They had a very strong campaign for the anniversary of the entry charter that was very much a branding campaign. They have a strong pipeline of launches for the second part of the year, both done by the team. I have to say that we also have very good signs of improvement of performance in certain product categories that are not handbags, specifically ready-to-wear, and we expect this to be stronger with the arrival of Louise that will present her first collection in September, and the transition is going very well, and she's fully integrated with the team.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ๋‚ฎ์€ ์œ ๋™์ธ๊ตฌ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ ์œ ์ž… ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ํƒ€๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ˜„์ง€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์ธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , ํ˜„์ง€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋Ÿฝ, ์ค‘๋™, ์ผ๋ณธ์—์„œ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ ๋‘”ํ™”๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ ์œ ์ž… ๊ฐ์†Œ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ „๋žต์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‰๊ท  ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์€ ๊ณ„์† ์ƒ์Šนํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—”ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์ฐจํ„ฐ ๊ธฐ๋…์ผ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋”ฉ์— ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘” ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํŒ€์ด ์ค€๋น„ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํŠน์ • ์ œํ’ˆ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ธฐ์„ฑ๋ณต(ready-to-wear) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐœ์„ ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค์•ผ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 9์›”์— ์ฒซ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์„ ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ๋ฃจ์ด์ฆˆ์˜ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ „ํ™˜ ๊ณผ์ •์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํŒ€๊ณผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Antoine Belge: Maybe just a follow-up to make sure I understood correctly. So on the H2 margin, they are supposed to be down versus the 11.9% from last year. But not 500 bps like in H1? Is that...**Antoine Belge:** ํ˜น์‹œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ดํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธ์ฐจ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งˆ์ง„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ž‘๋…„ 11.9% ๋Œ€๋น„ ํ•˜๋ฝํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ 500bp ์ •๋„๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์”€์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
Armelle Poulou: Yes, Antoine, that's correct.**Armelle Poulou:** ๋„ค, ์•™ํˆฌ์•ˆ, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Antoine Belge: Okay. And could they still be double digits above 10% or yes, I don't ...**Antoine Belge:** ๋„ค, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ 10%๋ฅผ ๋„˜๋Š” ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”... ์Œ, ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ...
Armelle Poulou: It is bit earlier.**Armelle Poulou:** ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด๋ฅธ ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Next question is from Erwan Rambourg of HSBC.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ HSBC์˜ Erwan Rambourg๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Erwan Rambourg: I'll try 3, if I can. Firstly, on the tariff outcome. I'm wondering what you can comment on this 15% that hopefully will stick. How can you deal with this, maybe Armelle or Francesca in terms of price -- willingness to increase prices in the U.S. or other actions that you might have planned? Secondly, maybe a question for Jean-Marc. I think you mentioned you sold the Tokyo building. I'm wondering what else is in the pipe in terms of priority to deleverage. And then lastly, for whoever can or but possibly Francesca, any signs of improvement in terms of Chinese psychology as regards to luxury purchases that you're picking up?**Erwan Rambourg:** ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ๊ด€์„ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 15%๊ฐ€ ์œ ์ง€๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด๋‚˜ ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๊ป˜์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ƒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์š”?

๋‘˜์งธ, ์žฅ ๋งˆ๋ฅดํฌ๊ป˜ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„์ฟ„ ๋นŒ๋”ฉ์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•˜์…จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๋””๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง• ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋“  ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๊ป˜์„œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๊ตฌ๋งค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐœ์„  ์กฐ์ง์„ ํฌ์ฐฉํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€์š”?
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Thank you for allocating the questions to the speakers.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์ •ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: So regarding the tariff, if we understood correctly the recent announcements, and we welcome the clarification, the 50% is not that far from the assumption we are working on. And we consider that this is manageable through price adjustments. We have already taken some price adjustment in Q2 in some of our brands. Some did it globally, some did it in the U.S. We may consider a second wave in the autumn because we generally address the prices at the moment of the introduction of seasonal collections. We will balance looking at the price adjustment, making sure that we apply it in a smart way, mindful of the consumer sentiment.**Armelle Poulou:** ๊ด€์„ธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์ตœ๊ทผ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด์„œ, 50%๋ผ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ •๊ณผ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์ •์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์ •์„ ์‹ค์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ฐ€์„์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์กฐ์ •์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜ ์ถœ์‹œ ์‹œ์ ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์กฐ์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์ •์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ๋งž์ถฐ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ, ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘๊ณ  ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Then when it comes to the real estate things, first of all, I think that we have had always a very agile approach when it comes to real estate. People tend to forget because there is a big focus on the recent acquisitions that in the past few years, we had already sold some buildings which were not necessarily strategic. As a reminder, in 2014, in 2017 or in '23, we sold buildings in New York, in Milan, in London, so for a total of EUR 500 million. If we add the one of Omotesando this year, we are talking about EUR 800 million in the past few years. So there is a focus on the purchase, but not sometimes on what we did in terms of disposal and management of real estate. When it comes to Omotesando specifically, it's a very good building. It's where we have Saint Laurent. But we think that to own a building, Omotesando is not necessarily strategic. We could have a discussion about Ginza. But obviously, Omotesando is not a strategic place for us and that's the reason why we have decided to sell this building with to be honest, a very nice gain in terms of sales. So here again, sometimes there is a focus about, yes, you have a lot. But at the same time, if we combine the losses across the years and the gains, I think it's more or less neutral. When it comes to what remains to do, clearly, you know perfectly that we have 2 buildings on which we are working, one, which is the one of New York. In fact, we have 3, New York City, on the Fifth Revenue, the one in Monte Napoleone in Milan. There is still one in Paris, Parisian real estate asset, which is Castiglione where you will have sooner or later, Gucci store. So here again, we are working on that. We are making good progresses, but we are not ready to take -- to make a deal at any price. I think the Ardian deal was a very smart one and a very efficient one. So we'll continue to work to strike a deal, which does make sense in the long run because you know that we want to keep an exposure to this building. It's not just a sale and leaseback in most cases, and we want to remain exposed, but at a decent level, and we are working in this direction. And I'm quite confident that between the second half and beginning of '26, we will be able to add some additional proceeds linked to these assets.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์šฐ์„  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ์ฒฉํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ทจํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๊ทผ ์ธ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ํฌ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žŠ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ „๋žต์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, 2014๋…„, 2017๋…„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2023๋…„์— ๋‰ด์š•, ๋ฐ€๋ผ๋…ธ, ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์˜ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•ด์„œ ์ด 5์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํšŒ์ˆ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์˜ค๋ชจํ…Œ์‚ฐ๋„ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๊นŒ์ง€ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ 8์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ž…์—๋Š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์ง‘์ค‘๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์ฒ˜๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ•œ ์ผ๋“ค์€ ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ฃผ๋ชฉ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ชจํ…Œ์‚ฐ๋„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ ๋กœ๋ž‘์ด ์ž…์ ํ•ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์˜ค๋ชจํ…Œ์‚ฐ๋„๋Š” ์ „๋žต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ผญ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธด์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋…ผ์˜ํ•ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์˜ค๋ชจํ…Œ์‚ฐ๋„๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „๋žต์ ์ธ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งค๊ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์†์‹ค์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ์ดˆ์ ์ด ๋งž์ถฐ์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋™์‹œ์— ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ์†์‹ค๊ณผ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ํ•ฉ์ณ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋žต ์ค‘๋ฆฝ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—… ์ค‘์ธ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์ด 2๊ฐœ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ํ…๋ฐ์š”. ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‰ด์š•์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค 3๊ฐœ์ธ๋ฐ, ๋‰ด์š•์‹œ 5๋ฒˆ๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋ฐ€๋ผ๋…ธ ๋ชฌํ…Œ ๋‚˜ํด๋ ˆ์˜ค๋„ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ์—๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์ž์‚ฐ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์นด์Šคํ‹ธ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋„ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์กฐ๋งŒ๊ฐ„ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ๋งค์žฅ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์„ค ์˜ˆ์ •์ด์ฃ . ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์—๋‚˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๋Š” ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅด๋””์•ˆ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ํšจ์œจ์ ์ธ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์„ฑ์‚ฌ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณ„์† ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ต์Šคํฌ์ €๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์„ธ์ผ ์•ค ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋ฐฑ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉฐ, ์ ์ • ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์ต์Šคํฌ์ €๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ 26๋…„ ์ดˆ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francesca Bellettini: Regarding China, what we see is that the general economic environment still creates a low consumer confidence. Currently, the rate of saving is very high. The stimulus that have been created have been very specific for certain sector, and we don't know when they will have an effect on the consumption of luxury goods. What we see that the consumer is, for sure, more discerning. They are more disciplined in the way they spend, but they go for quality and higher price points. So for sure, a positive effect that we are seeing is like on the higher price points on high jewelry, for example, high watches, both for the jewelry brand or for the fashion brands higher- end product, high-quality products are the ones that are performing better at the moment. We still remain positive on China. We believe that China continues to be a very promising and relevant country for the luxury brands, and -- but we don't know yet when the trend is going to change. It's very difficult to say.**Francesca Bellettini:** ์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์ œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €์ถ•๋ฅ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์€ ์ƒํƒœ์ด๊ณ ์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๋ถ€์–‘์ฑ…๋“ค์€ ํŠน์ • ์„นํ„ฐ์—๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ํ•œ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ์šฉ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์–ธ์ œ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์ƒํ’ˆ ์†Œ๋น„์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น ์ง€๋Š” ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋” ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กœ์›Œ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์—์„œ ๋” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•ด์กŒ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ’ˆ์งˆ๊ณผ ๋” ๋†’์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•˜์ด ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์‹œ๊ณ„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด์ฃ . ์ฃผ์–ผ๋ฆฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“  ํŒจ์…˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“  ์ƒ๊ด€์—†์ด ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ œํ’ˆ, ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ „๋ง์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์€ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ธ์ œ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋€”์ง€๋Š” ์•„์ง ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Edouard Aubin of Morgan Stanley.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ชจ๊ฑด์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—๋‘์•„๋ฅด ์˜ค๋ฑ…๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Edouard Aubin: Armelle, on the -- in April, you told us that you expected gross margin to sequentially improve between H1 and H2. Now obviously, back then, I think maybe you had slightly more optimistic views of the top line, I don't know. So if you can update us in terms of what you're expecting in terms of the gross margin trajectory for H2, that would be really helpful. The second point is just to come back on kind of the opportunity to rightsize your cost structure. . So not to allocate questions between Jean-Marc and Armelle, I'll let you decide. But so you're guiding for OpEx to be down, if I'm not mistaken, 3% to 4% year-over-year in H2 versus 11% in H1. Jean-Marc, you mentioned in your slide that head count was down 4% year-to-date. So I guess we should not extrapolate that 4% and annualize it for the remainder of the year? Or what are you seeing? I'm asking the question because, as I'm sure you've seen one of your peer, Burberry announced a reduction of its workforce by 17%, which is obviously much more significant. So just wondering in terms of how you see the potential reduction in head count. And then just out of curiosity, you talked about Brioni, which is doing better. So that's great. Are you seeing a return of formal wear, which could be maybe helping the brand kind of -- I guess, we had 2 years of post-COVID of where people were focusing maybe more on comfort and so on. Is that a trend -- maybe that's more a question for Francesca not to allocate questions. But is that a trend you're seeing in the market about formalwear returning to a certain extent? I would be curious to have your views.**Edouard Aubin:** 4์›”์— Armelle๊ป˜์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ (gross margin)์ด ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งค์ถœ ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ธ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  ๊ถค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋น„์šฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์ ์ •ํ™”ํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์—ฌ์ญ™๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Jean-Marc๋‹˜๊ณผ Armelle๋‹˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •์€ ๋งก๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป ์ดํ•ดํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ(OpEx)์ด ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 3~4% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ 11% ๊ฐ์†Œ์™€ ๋Œ€๋น„๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Jean-Marc๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ๋Š” ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ์—์„œ ์—ฐ์ดˆ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ง์› ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ 4% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4%๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์— ์ ์šฉํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์”€์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š”, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋™์ข…์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๋ฒ„๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 17%์˜ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ฐ์ถ•์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ฐ์ถ• ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ์ ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜น์‹œ ์ •์žฅ ์˜๋ฅ˜์˜ ํšŒ๋ณต์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”. ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜19 ์ดํ›„ 2๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์— ๋” ์ง‘์ค‘ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ž–์•„์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์ธ์ง€... ์•„๋งˆ ์ด๊ฑด ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”, ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์žฅ ์˜๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: So Edouard, I will answer to you on gross margin. So our gross margin is true that we were expecting an improvement of gross margin mostly due to regional mix. Actually, as you see, APAC is still declining. So all in all, we now expect H2 gross margin to be quite similar to H1. Now you also have to keep in mind that depending on the future evolution of the FX rate, in addition to that, we could have some hedging gains if the euro stays at the current level is very strong. But then we would have some impact on the top line. And that could be quite substantial, both on the top line and on the hedging gain in the gross margin, partially offsetting the impact of the top line.**Armelle Poulou:** ์—๋‘์•„๋ฅด๋“œ, ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ๋ฏน์Šค๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์•„์‹œ์•„ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ์ง€์—ญ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์™€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋น„์Šทํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ํ•œ ํ–ฅํ›„ ํ™˜์œจ ๋ณ€๋™์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ—ค์ง• ์ด์ต์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋งค์ถœ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์˜ ํ—ค์ง• ์ด์ต ๋ชจ๋‘์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์ถœ์— ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Regarding the cost base, first of all, as you will have observed, we did better than expected in H1. So I think in H2 we will continue to work. So far, our assumption so far is that we should be, I think, as you said, Armelle, mid- to high single-digit down in terms of OpEx for the full year, which implies let's say, a lower reduction in H2. But I can tell you that we continue to work to decrease further. As you know, when it comes more specifically to headcount, you have always a deferred impact of the evolution of the workforce, considering that we are working with -- based on hiring freeze, some restructuring activities when you have closures of stores. And we are playing also with the fact that there is a natural turnover in this industry. . You mentioned a competitor, but what we said is minus 4%, and it depends which is the time frame you are looking at. It's minus 4% compared to end of the year '24, it's minus 7% or minus 6%, minus 7% compared to end of H1 '24. That being said also, maybe because we started earlier. If I take the -- because Burberry is a brand, if I compare to one of the brands where we are -- on which we are working on, which is Gucci, we are minus 22% compared to the peak in terms of headcount, which was at the end of '22. So compared to the end of '22, we are minus 22% in terms of percent in terms of head count at Gucci. It means that today, Gucci in terms of employees below the level of 2019. So you cannot just compare what is valid for our brand and what is referred to a group because, of course, we continue to hire people at Boucheron because Boucheron is expanding its network and is doing well. We continue to recruit people at Creed. We continue to recruit people at Kering Eyewear. So it has to be analyzed maybe with different granularity and with a time frame, which is different. So what I can tell you is that we have started to consider a downsizing and also a different -- more efficiency in our organization for a while. And that's the reason why we have been able to reduce already by almost 10%, if we compare to last year, the 30th of June '24.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ๋น„์šฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์šฐ์„  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋’€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋„ ๊ณ„์† ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์ •์œผ๋กœ๋Š”, ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ(OpEx)์ด ์ค‘๊ฐ„์—์„œ ๋†’์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ฎ์€ ๊ฐ์†Œํญ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ฑ„์šฉ ๋™๊ฒฐ, ๋งค์žฅ ํ์‡„ ์‹œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ • ํ™œ๋™ ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ธ๋ ฅ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ง€์—ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ด ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ด์ง๋ฅ ๋„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 4%์ด๊ณ , ์ด๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 24๋…„ ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 4%์ด๊ณ , 24๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ง ๋Œ€๋น„๋กœ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 6%์—์„œ 7% ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒ„๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, 22๋…„ ๋ง ์ •์  ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 22%์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, 22๋…„ ๋ง๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” 22% ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ์ง์› ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ 2019๋…„ ์ˆ˜์ค€๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋‚ฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ์œ ํšจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ „์ฒด์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋น„๊ตํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ถ€์‰๋ก (Boucheron)์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ ์ด ์ข‹๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํฌ๋ฆฌ๋“œ(Creed)์—์„œ๋„ ๊ณ„์† ์ฑ„์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ผ€๋ง ์•„์ด์›จ์–ด(Kering Eyewear)์—์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ๋ถ„ํ™” ์ˆ˜์ค€๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ„์„๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ถ•์†Œ์™€ ์กฐ์ง์˜ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž‘๋…„ 6์›” 30์ผ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ 10% ๊ฐ์ถ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francesca Bellettini: Edouard, regarding Brioni, the trend actually is more driven by higher consumption and desire for elevated casual wear. So it's not sportswear, it's not typically formal wear, but it's an elevated form of casual wear, typically knitwear, typically leather jacket or iconic products that are a little bit in the middle, for example, the [ Giardino ] or the travel jacket that are very iconic for Brioni that are, for sure, elegant and high quality, but it's not the typical suiting that you are talking about. In the suiting area, a trend that is very -- happening very much is the one on the made-to-measure made-to-order. So again, it speaks to client service and client retention and fidelity.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋‹ˆ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋†’์€ ์†Œ๋น„์™€ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์บ์ฃผ์–ผ์›จ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์š•๊ตฌ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ฃผ๋„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์›จ์–ด๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ์ •์žฅ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ํ™”๋œ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์บ์ฃผ์–ผ์›จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋‹ˆํŠธ์›จ์–ด, ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ ์žฌํ‚ท, ๋˜๋Š” ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„์ด์ฝ”๋‹‰ํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด์ฃ . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ง€์•„๋ฅด๋””๋…ธ๋‚˜ ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ์žฌํ‚ท ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋‹ˆ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ƒ์ง•์ ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋กœ, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์šฐ์•„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜ํŠธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ˆ˜ํŠธ ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งž์ถค ์ œ์ž‘(made-to-measure)๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ œ์ž‘(made-to-order) ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์™€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์œ ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถฉ์„ฑ๋„์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Next question is from Thomas Chauvet of Citi.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์”จํ‹ฐ์˜ ํ† ๋งˆ์Šค ์‡ผ๋ฒ (Thomas Chauvet)๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Thomas Vincent Chauvet: I have 3 questions, please. The first one on OpEx. How much of the EUR 0.5 billion of expense removal in the first half is sort of structural and permanent, and how much is perhaps related to the fact that Gucci and Balenciaga have yet to be relaunched under a new creative leadership with obviously investment support. And within OpEx, can you give us more color on the EUR 290 million of nonrecurring expenses, how much of that is related to the cost reduction plan, particularly store closures? Secondly, on Gucci, Francesca, you spoke briefly about in that first presentation, September and first show in March. Do you expect the products to be launched presented in these 2 shows to address an ongoing question, which is affordability and how to regain some of the luxury consumer that may have been a bit priced out over the last 4, 5 years by the steep price increases we saw in the industry? It looks like the launch of the Giglio bag or the new Marmont at reasonable price points and maybe that's a way to address that idea. And finally, on Balenciaga, you recently announced the appointment of Pierpaolo Piccioli from Balenciaga to succeed them now. It feels like a quite significant change in style, in aesthetics and perhaps in commercial strategy for the brand. So is that a big relaunch to be expected? Can you elaborate on this transition to perhaps recruit a different clientele for Balenciaga going forward and that would lead the brands back to profitable growth?**Thomas Vincent Chauvet:** ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ 5์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ์ค‘ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์˜๊ตฌ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์™€ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์—์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ํ•˜์—์„œ ํˆฌ์ž ์ง€์›๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•„์ง ์žฌ์ถœ๋ฒ”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ ๋‚ด์—์„œ 2์–ต 9์ฒœ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ๋น„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ด ์ค‘ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ๊ณ„ํš, ํŠนํžˆ ๋งค์žฅ ํ์‡„์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์—์„œ 9์›”๊ณผ 3์›” ์ฒซ ์‡ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋žตํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ง€๋‚œ 4-5๋…„๊ฐ„ ์—…๊ณ„ ์ „๋ฐ˜์˜ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์†Œ์™ธ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์„ ๋˜์ฐพ๊ณ  ์ ‘๊ทผ์„ฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋‘ ์‡ผ์—์„œ ์„ ๋ณด์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๊ณผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃฐ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€์˜ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๋ฐฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋งˆ๋ชฝ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.

๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์ตœ๊ทผ ํ”ผ์—๋ฅดํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋กœ ํ”ผ์น˜์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์˜ ํ›„์ž„์œผ๋กœ ์ž„๋ช…ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํƒ€์ผ, ๋ฏธํ•™, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์ƒ์—…์  ์ „๋žต์—์„œ๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋Œ€์ ์ธ ๋ฆฌ๋Ÿฐ์นญ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์˜ ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ๋ณต๊ท€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์„ ์œ ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „ํ™˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Armelle Poulou: So regarding the OpEx, my comment is that everything we do in OpEx is done for the long term. So all the OpEx that we are looking at efficiencies. One that we already mentioned is regarding the network. When we look at the network, of course, we are doing it first and foremost to enhance our brand perception, the retail experience and the efficiency of the store. But we are doing, it's not a one-off because of course, when we address the network is for a long period of time. Another example that I can do is that a lot of the savings that we've done are done through relooking at the organization between the brand and the corporate, within the brand between the corporate and the regions and trying to work in a more efficient way, and that is going to stay. Another area is procurement. We are looking spend category by spend category on how we can neutralize the way we interact with our suppliers. We are launching group RFP when it makes sense. And that is going to stay for a while, so I would say that large -- very large part of the OpEx savings that we are doing are for the long run, and we are not interested in some one-off so that's first comment. Regarding Balenciaga and Gucci, what I can say is that large -- more than half of these savings are related to Gucci, for sure. But there have been some savings at every fashion brand over the semester. Looking at the organization and looking at the way they work with the corporate and also with their own organizations.**Armelle Poulou:** ์šด์˜๋น„์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šด์˜๋น„์—์„œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์  ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์šด์˜๋น„ ํšจ์œจํ™”๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ธ์‹, ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์žฅ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃฐ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์žฅ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋“ค์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ๋ณธ์‚ฌ ๊ฐ„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ๋ณธ์‚ฌ์™€ ์ง€์—ญ ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์ง์„ ์žฌ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณด๋‹ค ํšจ์œจ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์—ญ์€ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์ถœ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋ณ„๋กœ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์™€์˜ ์ƒํ˜ธ์ž‘์šฉ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ค‘๋ฆฝํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฃน RFP(์ œ์•ˆ์š”์ฒญ์„œ)๋ฅผ ์‹œํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ์ง€์†๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์šด์˜๋น„(OpEx) ์ ˆ๊ฐ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์•ก์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์ด์ƒ์ด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ชจ๋“  ํŒจ์…˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์˜ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์กฐ์ง์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ณธ์‚ฌ ๋ฐ ์ž์ฒด ์กฐ์ง๊ณผ ํ˜‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Sorry, I did not answer on the noncurrent expenses. Just to tell you, yes, this time, it's some of minus and pluses. But if I look at the minus, we have booked some nonrecurring linked to the impairment of some of the stores and some restructuring charges, mostly at Gucci.**Armelle Poulou:** ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋น„๊ฒฝ์ƒ ๋น„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋„ค์š”. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์™€ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋งค์žฅ์˜ ์†์ƒ์ฐจ์†๊ณผ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ • ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ณ„์ƒํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: If I may come back to the previous comment of Armelle on the OpEx side, I want to be very clear. If you combine the cost containment we achieved in '24 and what we're going to do in '25, it's quite material as a decrease of the OpEx. It means, a, that we have a sense of emergency that we are taking decisions. And as said by Armelle, there was, at the beginning, some quick reaction to contain the cost. And typically, in this type of situation, at the beginning, it's a little bit a one-off or something which is less structural. But we have started now in '25 to work on more structural actions, ways of working, reengineering of the processes, more mutualization and so on. So that's the reason why it's structural, and we will continue to work in that direction also in '26.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์šด์˜๋น„ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋‚ด์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 24๋…„์— ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ๊ณผ 25๋…„์— ํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์„ ํ•ฉ์น˜๋ฉด, ์šด์˜๋น„ ๊ฐ์†Œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์–ต์ œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋น ๋ฅธ ๋Œ€์‘์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์— ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์ด ์ทจํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ 25๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๋Š” ๋” ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค, ์ฆ‰ ์—…๋ฌด ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๊ฐœ์„ , ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค ์žฌ์„ค๊ณ„, ๊ณต์œ ํ™” ํ™•๋Œ€ ๋“ฑ์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํ™”์ด๋ฉฐ, 26๋…„์—๋„ ์ด ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ„์† ์ž‘์—…ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francesca Bellettini: Regarding the product architecture, Thomas, you said it yourself, Gucci doesn't need to wait for them not to work on that. The product that you just mentioned, the Emblem, the Giglio were launched before, the team is working on that. For sure, we are addressing some segments that in the past. We covered mostly with carryover, carryover that have not been revamped enough. And with the lack of traffic, we need to inject the novelty also at those price points. The bags that you mentioned are exactly hitting this price point and are immediately working very well. But Gucci has also, at the same time, the possibility to introduce the product also a higher price point in ladder, for example. What Demna is going to do is in this better product architecture and merchandising products adding the desirability and the creativity. This has been done with already the presentation in September and will be even more emphasized with March, but the team is working on the merchandising grid and the product architecture. And by most importantly, certain price points are going to be covered not only thinking of leather goods or handbags, but also with other categories, all the work that the brand has been doing, for example, on the Silk, building on the heritage of the brand. It's work that I call horizontal merchandising that goes across categories and not only vertical merchandising, about covering price points within specific classification. Regarding Balenciaga, well, you read it all in the latter that also Pierpaolo sent out when he was nominated. The nomination of Pierpaolo is a natural evolution. Pierpaolo will build on the aesthetic that is already present in Balenciaga is our intention is to evolve. It's not to lose the business and the segment that Balenciaga already had, but build on this with, of course, the aesthetic that Pierpaolo will bring to the brand.**Francesca Bellettini:** ์ œํ’ˆ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ† ๋งˆ์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ์— ๋ธ”๋Ÿผ, ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๊ฐ™์€ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด์ „์— ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ํŒ€์ด ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ฃผ๋กœ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„๋กœ ์ปค๋ฒ„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์„ธ๊ทธ๋จผํŠธ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€์—์„œ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ž…ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋ฐฑ๋“ค์ด ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒจ๋ƒฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ๋” ๋†’์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€์—์„œ๋„ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ž˜๋” ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Ž€๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ œํ’ˆ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์™€ ๋จธ์ฒœ๋‹ค์ด์ง•์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„์™€ ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ 9์›” ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , 3์›”์—๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•์กฐ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ํŒ€์€ ๋จธ์ฒœ๋‹ค์ด์ง• ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ์™€ ์ œํ’ˆ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠน์ • ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์ปค๋ฒ„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค๊ณผ๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์‹คํฌ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ํ•ด์˜จ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘์—…๋“ค, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ํ—ค๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์ž‘์—…๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ‰์  ๋จธ์ฒœ๋‹ค์ด์ง•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ฉฐ, ํŠน์ • ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์ปค๋ฒ„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ง์  ๋จธ์ฒœ๋‹ค์ด์ง•๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ํ”ผ์—๋ฅดํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์ž„๋ช…๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ์„œํ•œ์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ฝ์œผ์…จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”ผ์—๋ฅดํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋กœ์˜ ์ž„๋ช…์€ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฐœ์ „ ๊ณผ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”ผ์—๋ฅดํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€์— ์ด๋ฏธ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธํ•™์  ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์œ„์—์„œ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์˜๋„๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ™•๋ณดํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ณผ ์„ธ๊ทธ๋จผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์žƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ”ผ์—๋ฅดํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ๋ฏธํ•™๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next participant is Oliver Chen of TD Cowen.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฐธ๊ฐ€์ž๋Š” TD Cowen์˜ Oliver Chen์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Oliver Chen: Regarding first question on carryover, a carryover product has been a risk factor with lack of innovation. What's the mix of carryover? And what do you see happening in terms of milestones at the Gucci brand? Second, you commented on traffic at Gucci just would love characterizations of the traffic by region, if there's major differences that are relevant there. And third, on the gross margin at Gucci, you had the adverse mix impact. What should we know about fixed versus variable for the Gucci gross margin that we should pay attention to as we model that going forward?**Oliver Chen:** ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ํ˜์‹  ๋ถ€์กฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ์š”์ธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„์˜ ๋น„์ค‘์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ผ์Šคํ†ค ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ํŠน์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€๋ จ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์š” ์ฐจ์ด์ ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์—์„œ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•œ ๋ฏน์Šค ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์˜ ๊ณ ์ •๋น„ ๋Œ€ ๋ณ€๋™๋น„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Francesca Bellettini: Oliver, I'll take the question on the carryover. Well, one of the most important positive trend that you see at Gucci is how the newness is performing. The share of newness in the business is growing week after week. At the moment, it stands at about 55%. And if we consider it within the handbags is even 62%. But another very, very important element that tackles exactly your first question about how do you create new carryover is that within the carryover business, 40% of the business today is already represented by the new carryover that we have introduced in the last 2 years. So the market is telling us that it's well receiving the product that we are putting to your point, probably in the very past. There was not enough work down to revamp the icons and the carryover. But what has been done in the last 2 years and in particular in the last year is, for sure, proving to be effective. Regarding the traffic of Gucci, there is not a big difference region by region. It's more or less the same. The traffic is declining, and this speaks to brand desirability. And this is what we expect to revert faster with the arrival of Demna and with injecting desirability and creativity into the brand.**Francesca Bellettini:** ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฒ„, ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์—์„œ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ธ์ •์  ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ž˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์—์„œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ๋งค์ฃผ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ํ˜„์žฌ ์•ฝ 55% ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด๊ณ , ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฐฑ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ๋ณด๋ฉด 62%์— ๋‹ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋А๋ƒ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งž๋‹ฟ์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋‚ด์—์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ 40%๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ 2๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ณด์ธ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ €ํฌ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ž˜ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ์•„์ด์ฝ˜ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๋‚œ 2๋…„๊ฐ„, ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๋‚œ 1๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ง„ํ–‰๋œ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ž„์ด ์ž…์ฆ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„๋กœ ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด์ฃ . ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์ด ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋Ž€๋‚˜์˜ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„์™€ ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์„ ์ฃผ์ž…ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํšŒ๋ณต๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Sorry, for your question on gross margin, it's a bit specific. We don't comment by brand.**Armelle Poulou:** ์ฃ„์†กํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ด๋„ค์š”. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ๋Š” ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Oliver Chen: Okay. And lastly, AUR increases across categories at Gucci. Going forward, will we continue to see ticket up on mix or like-for-like? Or what might that lever do? It sounds like traffic and transaction is the main current issue.**Oliver Chen:** ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์—์„œ ์ „ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ AUR์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋ฏน์Šค๋‚˜ ๋™์ผ ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ๋‹จ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์Šน์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ˜„์žฌ ์ฃผ์š” ์ด์Šˆ๋Š” ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋Ÿ‰์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.
Francesca Bellettini: Yes. It's traffic and it's a conversion rate, but one positive indicator is that we are increasing in the average ticket and the average price. So the team is focusing a lot on the execution at the retail level. This is one of our fifth priority. We are working also a lot on accelerating the injection on net in the store. You saw how fast we were able to go with the Giglio bag that was presented in the Cruise show and was in the stores worldwide basically the day after and 1 week later, fully delivered. Same for the Mini GG that has also been presented with the Cruise collection already delivered. Like I said, also with the September collection, we will be able not only to do some presentation immediately in a handful number of stores, but we have been able to accelerate the introduction of the newness by 1 month. so it goes all together. And for sure, we are responding faster to the request of a consumer for novelty.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๋„ค, ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๊ณผ ์ „ํ™˜์œจ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ง€ํ‘œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ํ‰๊ท  ๊ตฌ๋งค์•ก๊ณผ ํ‰๊ท  ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํŒ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ์— ๋งŽ์ด ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ํ•œ ๋งค์žฅ ๋‚ด ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ํˆฌ์ž… ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฃจ์ฆˆ ์‡ผ์—์„œ ์„ ๋ณด์ธ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๋ฐฑ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์…จ์„ ํ…๋ฐ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋งค์žฅ์— ์ž…๊ณ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  1์ฃผ์ผ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐฐ์†ก์ด ์™„๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฃจ์ฆˆ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐฐ์†ก๋œ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ GG๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, 9์›” ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ฅผ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ ์•ž๋‹น๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งž์•„๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์˜ ์š”๊ตฌ์— ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Louise Singlehurst of Goldman Sachs.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ์‚ญ์Šค์˜ ๋ฃจ์ด์ฆˆ ์‹ฑ๊ธ€ํ—ˆ์ŠคํŠธ๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Louise Susan Singlehurst: Just a couple of follow-ups, please, and clarification. I wonder having to go back to Francesca's point, with regard to the new product. And I say it's only because it's absolutely crucial obviously, that we understand how we can probably track progress from the outside looking in. So just to clarify, I think we talked about the fashion show, the full fashion show in March, but there will be newness in the stores in the lead up to Christmas between September and December. And I just wondered if you can talk to us about whether -- is that more capital collections, what that means in terms of the stores? Will we see or begin to see a different look and feel in terms of the stores? And then just my second question, thinking about the working capital in the second half. It's a plan still to have a working capital inflow when we think about the full year and what that means for the Gucci inventory? Can that come down again in the second half?**Louise Susan Singlehurst:** ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ์š”. ์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง„์ „ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์ถ”์ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, 3์›”์— ์™„์ „ํ•œ ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, 9์›”๊ณผ 12์›” ์‚ฌ์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์•ž๋‘๊ณ  ๋งค์žฅ์— ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ฌ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์บํ”ผํ„ธ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด์ง€, ๋งค์žฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ์Šต๊ณผ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ ์œ ์ž…์„ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ์žฌ๊ณ ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์ธ์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์žฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Francesca Bellettini: Well, as you have seen, we have been working on fashion shows from February. And so there is not only an injection of novelty in the stores after the presentation of September over the show of March. But there is a concept in injection of novelty in the stores basically every month, starting with the work that has been done for this year, for example, with the February collection that is already hit in the stores. Like I said, with the Cruise collection, we have been able even to do a sort of see now, buy now on some of the products. I remind also everybody that before the March collection, there is going to be even a precollection in between the September show and the March fashion show that is a pre-fall that will arrive in the stores before the show of March. To clarify, the September presentation is a full collection. It's not -- it's just not presented with the fashion show. So you can expect the normal injection of novelty regularly in the stores. There is going to be also a Christmas capsule that has been already worked on by the team that is going to be a project for Chinese New Year. So I just would allow everybody to the focus a little bit on the collection of Demna, the collection of another designer. There is a company, there is a brand, and there is a constant work of all the team in presenting new collection and new product and working on the carryover.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” 2์›”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 3์›” ์‡ผ์—์„œ 9์›” ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜ ์ดํ›„ ๋งค์žฅ์— ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค๋‹ฌ ๋งค์žฅ์— ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ปจ์…‰์ด ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ง„ํ–‰๋œ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์‹œ์ž‘์œผ๋กœ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ํžˆํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” 2์›” ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ด ๊ทธ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ํฌ๋ฃจ์ฆˆ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ œํ’ˆ์—์„œ๋Š” '์‹œ ๋‚˜์šฐ, ๋ฐ”์ด ๋‚˜์šฐ(see now, buy now)' ๋ฐฉ์‹๋„ ๋„์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€, 3์›” ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜ ์ด์ „์— 9์›” ์‡ผ์™€ 3์›” ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ํ”„๋ฆฌ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ”„๋ฆฌํด(pre-fall) ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์œผ๋กœ 3์›” ์‡ผ ์ด์ „์— ๋งค์žฅ์— ๋จผ์ € ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, 9์›” ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์€ ์™„์ „ํ•œ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ง€ ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์„ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋งค์žฅ์—๋Š” ํ‰์ƒ์‹œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ถœ์‹œ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ํŒ€์—์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ž‘์—… ์ค‘์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์บก์А ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹ ์ •์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜์„œ ๋Ž€๋‚˜์˜ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์˜ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜๊ณผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์บ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฒ„ ์ƒํ’ˆ์„ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ํŒ€์˜ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: On inventory, what I want to say first is that we have continued to show some progresses in H1 regarding inventories, especially we continue to decrease the number of product in the inventory by 9%. It's less in value because, of course the average value of the inventory increase. Now I think what is important to understand is that the quality of the inventory is much better because we are depleting old inventory and at the same time, we are increasing inventory and the newness as we consider, it's extremely important that we have the right inventory for the next collection in the next semester. So all in all, it's a bit difficult to forecast from now how we will end in terms of inventory. What is sure is that we won't have the same benefit in cash flow that we had last year because we want to have a balanced view continuing to deplete all the inventories, but making sure we have sufficient newness inventory, especially in the stores.**Armelle Poulou:** ์žฌ๊ณ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋จผ์ € ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์žฌ๊ณ  ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์žฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ œํ’ˆ ์ˆ˜๋Ÿ‰์„ 9% ๊ฐ์†Œ์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์žฌ๊ณ ์˜ ํ‰๊ท  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์Šนํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธˆ์•ก ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ฐ์†Œํญ์ด ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด์ œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€ ์žฌ๊ณ ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌํ˜• ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ์ง„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์— ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์žฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๋ ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž‘๋…„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ํ˜œํƒ์€ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ค„์—ฌ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๊ท ํ˜•์žกํžŒ ๊ด€์ ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋˜, ํŠนํžˆ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Louise Susan Singlehurst: So i.e., it could be an outflow or an inflow at this point? Just trying to think about that working capital for the second half.**Louise Susan Singlehurst:** ์ฆ‰, ์ด ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ๋Š” ์œ ์ถœ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์œ ์ž…์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์”€์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
Armelle Poulou: Yes. Yes, I confirm.**Armelle Poulou:** ๋„ค, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Carole Madjo of Barclays.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฐ”ํด๋ ˆ์ด์ฆˆ์˜ ์บ๋กค ๋งˆ๋“œ์กฐ๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Carole Gladys Madjo: Just one question on my side, please. To come back on Gucci, I think you mentioned there was a small improvement in the U.S. market. Can you come back on the state of the consumer in America, in your view? Any comment there, any improvement on the back of all the macro headwinds and volatility we are seeing in the U.S. market?**Carole Gladys Madjo:** ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์†Œํญ ๊ฐœ์„ ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ์—ญํ’๊ณผ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฐœ์„  ์กฐ์ง์ด๋‚˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ์ง€์š”?
Francesca Bellettini: What we see in all the brands, not only in Gucci in the American market is like recently, you know that our industry is very well linked to what's happening in the stock exchange. It is a little bit more of consumer confidence. There is a better situation with the traffic and a better sentiment of the consumers to come and buy. So also Gucci, like the other brand is performing better in America, like Armelle said, basically, the trend of Gucci in America is very much in line with the one of all of our brands. And you saw also in the data of Bottega Veneta, the resiliency of that market.**Francesca Bellettini:** ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ตœ๊ทผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—…๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์‹์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐ€์ ‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋„๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋งค์žฅ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธ๊ฐ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค๋Š” ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋„ ๋” ์ข‹์•„์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์˜ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ณด์…จ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•ด๋‹น ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question comes from Charles-Louis Scotti of Kepler Cheuvreux.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Kepler Cheuvreux์˜ Charles-Louis Scotti๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Charles-Louis Scotti: I have 3, please. The first one on wholesale revenues. It seems that the cleanup page is now behind us. What level of wholesale revenue decline should we expect in H2 both for Gucci and at the group level? Secondly, on the store network, do you believe the rationalization will be completed after the closure of [ 80 ] stores this year? Or should we expect further net closures in 2026? And lastly, thank you for all the details on your debt and liquidity. And if I'm not mistaken, Mayhoola holds put options with 2 exercise windows in '26 and '27. Do you already have an estimate of the maximum potential cash outflow in 2026 in case Mayhoola exercised its first option during that year.**Charles-Louis Scotti:** ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋„๋งค ๋งค์ถœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ฆฌ ์ž‘์—…์ด ์ด์ œ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ์™€ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ „์ฒด ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์˜ ๋„๋งค ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋งค์žฅ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด 80๊ฐœ ๋งค์žฅ ํ์  ์ดํ›„ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™” ์ž‘์—…์ด ์™„๋ฃŒ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 2026๋…„์—๋„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์ˆœ ํ์ ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”?

๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€์ฑ„์™€ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์„ค๋ช… ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ๊ฐ€ 2026๋…„๊ณผ 2027๋…„์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์˜ ํ–‰์‚ฌ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํ’‹์˜ต์…˜์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ๊ฐ€ 2026๋…„ ์ค‘ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜ต์…˜์„ ํ–‰์‚ฌํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ 2026๋…„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์ž ์žฌ์  ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ถœ์•ก์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ถ”์ •์น˜๋ฅผ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
Armelle Poulou: On wholesale, yes, you remember that we expressed in February that we would decrease -- we were expecting wholesale to decrease by EUR 350 million. We are confirming from what we can see from now, this trajectory, which means that the decrease of wholesale in H2 will be a bit milder. Then it depends brand by brand. I won't give you the detail brand by brand, but I can confirm that we are still on that trajectory. Regarding closures, yes, there will be -- no, there will be some closures also continuing in '26 and '27. You mean the network is a living animal, and we will always continue to close and to open. But for sure, also, as you know, it takes time, and we are also taking into account the different situation of our leases all over the world. So we will continue to make some adjustment to the network in 2026.**Armelle Poulou:** ๋„๋งค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, 2์›”์— ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋„๋งค ๋งค์ถœ์ด 3์–ต 5์ฒœ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ด ๊ถค๋„๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋„๋งค ๊ฐ์†Œํญ์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์™„ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณ„ ์„ธ๋ถ€์‚ฌํ•ญ์€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ ๊ถค๋„์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งค์žฅ ํ์ ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๋„ค, 26๋…„๊ณผ 27๋…„์—๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ์ ์ด ๊ณ„์†๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์žฅ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋Š” ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ๊ธฐ์ฒด์™€ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ์ ๊ณผ ๊ฐœ์ ์„ ์ง€์†ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ณ , ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ž„๋Œ€์ฐจ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ๋„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„์—๋„ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์ •์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: Before answering to your question about Valentino and Mayhoola, I would just jump on the answer of -- of [indiscernible] network. I think we had been very clear. I think it was part of the speech of Francesca for the full year results that we have a very thorough analysis the profitability of the network and more than the profitability, the return on the capital employed. What is sure is that looking at the network we have and also with the ambition to upgrade the network, as I mentioned by Armelle in her preliminary speech, I think, and I guess that going forward, the net openings or closings that would be more a net closing in '26 and '27 for some brands. We have already determined a list of stores that would be whether relocated, closed or regrouped with an existing store. So we will continue to close stores in '26 and '27. Now on Valentino and Mayhoola, that's a question that is asked quite frequently. I think, first of all, Valentino is a great brand and doing something that has been done by some of the brands, which is to clean and to improve the distribution by closing some wholesale accounts and concentrating on the best ones. Thinking about also the fine-tuning of the network, the retail network. And in this environment, you can imagine that even if things are okay at Valentino, it's not -- it has an impact on the revenues and on the profitability when we -- you have this process of reshuffling the distribution and also because of the aesthetic transition or evolution. So what I can tell you that '26 put option would be based on the '25 results. And I'm not, of course, in the shoes of Mayhoola shareholder. But I guess that it would not be the best year to exercise it's put considering the trends we see for the industry in '25. So of course, at that stage, I cannot elaborate more on this question. But if you consider what has been the value presented in our accounts, as a potential cash out going forward, this cash out is more based on what we see for '28 rather than the one that would be for '26, and I would be -- I think that it will be substantially below this EUR 4 billion. So honestly, I think that Valentino is working on Mayhoola and Valentino management are working hard to execute the strategy to deliver a good trajectory for the brand. I think it's not a short- term ambition to sell the stake. But here again, I cannot speak on behalf of Mayhoola.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ์™€ ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ „์—, ๋จผ์ € [์‹๋ณ„๋ถˆ๊ฐ€] ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํˆฌํ•˜์ž๋ณธ์ˆ˜์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ฒ ์ €ํ•œ ๋ถ„์„์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ , ๋˜ํ•œ ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ์ด ์„œ๋‘์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ 26๋…„๊ณผ 27๋…„์—๋Š” ์ˆœ ๊ฐœ์ ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ˆœ ํ์ ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด์ „, ํ์  ๋˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ๋งค์žฅ๊ณผ์˜ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ๋Œ€์ƒ์ด ๋  ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ํ™•์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 26๋…„๊ณผ 27๋…„์—๋„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋งค์žฅ์„ ํ์ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ์™€ ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š”. ์šฐ์„  ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์ด ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋„๋งค ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋“ค์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์œ ํ†ต๋ง์„ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์†Œ๋งค ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ์„ธ๋ฐ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์ •๋„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ๊ฐ€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„, ์œ ํ†ต๋ง ์žฌํŽธ ๊ณผ์ •๊ณผ ๋ฏธ์  ์ „ํ™˜์ด๋‚˜ ์ง„ํ™” ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ 26๋…„ ํ’‹์˜ต์…˜์€ 25๋…„ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ ์ฃผ์ฃผ์˜ ์ž…์žฅ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 25๋…„ ์—…๊ณ„ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ํ’‹์˜ต์…˜์„ ํ–‰์‚ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ตœ์ ์˜ ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ˜„ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ ์žฅ๋ถ€์— ์ œ์‹œ๋œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ›„ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ถœ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ด ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ถœ์€ 26๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” 28๋…„์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋‚ฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ์™€ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ๊ถค๋„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ „๋žต์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ถ„์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The final question is from James Grzinic of Jefferies.**Operator:** ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Jefferies์˜ James Grzinic์ด ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
James Robert Grzinic: I had 2 follow-ups really. The first one, would it be possible to understand how big the benefit was from higher FX hedge gains to the gross margin in Half 1? And Armelle, as far as FX stands right now, how much do you think that tailwind could be greater in the second half, please? And secondly, to the point on Mayhoola, just a follow-up. Is there a floor -- is it not a floor that applies to the put option? I just wanted to make sure that we understand the mechanics of that full year mark?**James Robert Grzinic:** ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ด๋งˆ์ง„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋†’์€ FX ํ—ค์ง€ ์ˆ˜์ต์˜ ํ˜œํƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ปธ๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฅด๋ฉœ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์™ธํ™˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ทธ ์ˆœํ’์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ํด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๋งˆ์ดํ›Œ๋ผ ๊ด€๋ จ ์‚ฌ์•ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ’‹์˜ต์…˜์— ์ ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ํ•˜ํ•œ์„ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„ ๋งˆํฌ์˜ ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: So regarding the FX gain in H1, H1 was a combination regarding the U.S. dollar of a stronger dollar and a weaker dollar in H1. So actually, the FX gain was quite limited lower than in H1 last year because we had some loss, I would say. I mean, it was compensating of sitting between Q1 and Q2. Honestly, it's extremely difficult to forecast the guarantee in general. So by consequence, to forecast the FX gain for H2. So I won't try this difficult exercise.**Armelle Poulou:** ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์™ธํ™˜์ฐจ์ต๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ์„ธ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜๋Š” ๋ณตํ•ฉ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์™ธํ™˜์ฐจ์ต์€ ์ž‘๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์†์‹ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ƒ์‡„๋˜๋Š” ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ฆ์„ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์™ธํ™˜์ฐจ์ต์„ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์˜ˆ์ธก์€ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Marc Duplaix: I cannot, of course, disclose all the details of the agreement with Mayhoola. What I can tell you is that the deal was made on a multiple of EBITDA, and this multiple is the one that has been paid already for the first stake. At that time, by the way, most of the analysts have mentioned that the price was quite fair considering other deals that have been made in the industry. So we are sticking to this multiple. And the calculation is very basic, I would say, it's an EBITDA multiple -- minus the net debt or plus the cash position. So as you can understand, there is not per se a floor. So that's just a calculation, which is normal in this type of deal.**Jean-Marc Duplaix:** ๋ฌผ๋ก  Mayhoola์™€์˜ ๊ณ„์•ฝ ์„ธ๋ถ€์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ EBITDA ๋ฐฐ์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด๊ณ , ์ด ๋ฐฐ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ง€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์ง€๊ธ‰๋œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์ด ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋“ค์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋ฐฐ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‚ฐ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, EBITDA ๋ฐฐ์ˆ˜์—์„œ ์ˆœ๋ถ€์ฑ„๋ฅผ ๋นผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํฌ์ง€์…˜์„ ๋”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ๋Š” ํ•˜ํ•œ์„ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์—์„œ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ณ„์‚ฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Ms Poulou, gentlemen, there are no more questions registered at this time.**Operator:** ํ’€๋ฃจ ์—ฌ์‚ฌ๋‹˜, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋“ฑ๋ก๋œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Armelle Poulou: Thank you very much for your interest and for your questions. Claire and her team will be available in the coming days to discuss directly with you any remaining questions you may have. We wish you a beautiful and rest of summer, and we will see you and talk to you soon. Have a good evening, and thank you again.**Armelle Poulou:** ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํด๋ ˆ์–ด์™€ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํŒ€์ด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ฉฐ์น ๊ฐ„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ  ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ํœด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ณง ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์ €๋… ๋˜์‹œ๊ณ , ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining the conference. And you may disconnect your telephones.**Operator:** ์‹ ์‚ฌ ์ˆ™๋…€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋Š์œผ์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ๋ฐ ์ „๋ง:
- 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 7์›” ์ฃผ์š” ์ง€์—ญ ์‹ค์ ์ด ์†Œํญ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋จ
- ์ƒ๋กœ๋ž‘๊ณผ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ ์œ ์ง€
- ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ๋Š” ์†Œํญ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋‚˜, ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€๋Š” 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™” ์˜ˆ์ƒ

โ€ข ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ ๊ด€๋ จ ์ฃผ์š” ๋‚ด์šฉ:
- 9์›”์— ์‹ ์ž„ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์—์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋””๋ ‰ํ„ฐ Demna์˜ ์ฒซ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜ ๊ณต๊ฐœ ์˜ˆ์ •
- 2026๋…„ 3์›” ์ฒซ ํŒจ์…˜์‡ผ ๊ฐœ์ตœ
- ๋งค์žฅ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™” ๊ณ„ํš์œผ๋กœ 50๊ฐœ์—์„œ 80๊ฐœ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€

โ€ข ๋น„์šฉ ๋ฐ ์žฌ๋ฌด:
- ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์˜์—…๋น„์šฉ 11% ๊ฐ์†Œ
- ์ง์› ์ˆ˜ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 4% ๊ฐ์ถ•
- ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ํ•˜๋ฝ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋‚˜ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ์ „๋ง

โ€ข ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ:
- ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚ฎ์Œ
- ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” ๊ฒฌ์กฐ
- ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์  ์ „๋ง ์œ ์ง€