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Siemens Energy AG (OTCPK:SMEGF) Q2 2025 Results Conference Call May 8, 2025 4:30 AM ET

Company Participants

Michael Hagmann - IR
Christian Bruch - President and CEO
Maria Ferraro - CFO

Conference Call Participants

Alex Virgo - BofA Securities
Max Yates - Morgan Stanley
Sebastian Growe - BNP Paribas Exane
Gael de-Bray - Deutsche Bank
Ben Uglow - Oxcap Analytics
Akash Gupta - JPMorgan
Ajay Patel - Goldman Sachs
Will Mackie - Kepler Cheuvreux
Vivek Midha - Citigroup

Michael Hagmann

Good morning and a warm welcome to the Siemens Energy Q2 Analyst Call. As always, all documents were released at 07:00 a.m. on our website.
์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ AG (OTCPK:SMEGF) 2025๋…„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ 2025๋…„ 5์›” 8์ผ ์˜ค์ „ 4์‹œ 30๋ถ„ ET

ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ฐธ์„์ž

๋งˆ์ดํด ํ•˜๊ทธ๋งŒ - IR
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํ - ์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CEO
๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ํŽ˜๋ผ๋กœ - CFO

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

์•Œ๋ ‰์Šค ๋น„๋ฅด๊ณ  - BofA ์ฆ๊ถŒ
๋งฅ์Šค ์˜ˆ์ด์ธ  - ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ
์„ธ๋ฐ”์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ฒ  - BNP ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ” ์—‘์‚ฐ
๊ฐ€์—˜ ๋“œ ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ์ด - ๋„์ด์ฒด ์€ํ–‰
๋ฒค ์šฐ๊ธ€๋กœ์šฐ - ์˜ฅ์Šค์บก ์• ๋„๋ฆฌํ‹ฑ์Šค
์•„์นด์‹œ ๊ตฝํƒ€ - JP๋ชจ๊ฑด
์•„์ œ์ด ํŒŒํ…” - ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ ์‚ญ์Šค
์œŒ ๋งฅํ‚ค - ์ผ€ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ ์‡ ๋ธŒ๋ขฐ
๋น„๋ฒก ๋ฏธ๋“œํ•˜ - ์‹œํ‹ฐ๊ทธ๋ฃน

๋งˆ์ดํด ํ•˜๊ทธ๋งŒ

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ฝœ์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด, ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌธ์„œ๋Š” ์˜ค์ „ 7์‹œ์— ์ €ํฌ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ๊ณต๊ฐœ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
On April 16, 2025, we pre-released our Q2 fiscal year 2025 figures due to a better-than-expected quarterly performance. On this occasion, we also raised our guidance for the full year. Our President and CEO, Christian Bruch; and our CFO, Maria Ferraro, are here with me. Christian and Maria will take you through the major developments during the second quarter of fiscal year 2025. This will take approximately 30 minutes, and thereafter, Christian and Maria are available to answer your questions. For the entire call, we have allowed an hour. So Christian, over to you. Christian Bruch

Thank you very much, Michael, and good morning, everybody, also from my side.
2025๋…„ 4์›” 16์ผ, ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ „ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋„ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํ(Christian Bruch) ์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CEO์™€ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ํŽ˜๋ผ๋กœ(Maria Ferraro) CFO๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž๋ฆฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ๊ณผ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ฃผ์š” ๋™ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋Š” ์•ฝ 30๋ถ„ ์†Œ์š”๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ดํ›„ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ๊ณผ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ฝœ์€ 1์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ, ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํ

๋งˆ์ดํด, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
Thank you very much for joining us today. During the second quarter, our performance remained strong. Reflecting the strong performance, we have raised our guidance for the full year across all KPIs. In our last quarterly call, I explained the resilient nature of our business model, and this provides us with confidence that we are well equipped to deal with tariffs as they arise and continue to focus on profitable growth. We continue to benefit from strong markets and booked orders of EUR 14.4 billion, reflecting comparable growth of 52.3% against prior year quarter. Almost half of our orders in the quarter came from Gas Services, which booked their highest order intake in history.์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์‹ค์ ์€ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•ต์‹ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ง€ํ‘œ(KPI)์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋ชจ๋ธ์˜ ํšŒ๋ณตํƒ„๋ ฅ์  ํŠน์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ ธ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 52.3%์˜ ๋น„๊ต๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์—ฌ 144์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ด ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
With 1.45 book-to-bill ratio, our order backlog grew once again to a new record high of EUR 133 billion. At the same time, we managed to further improve our backlog margins. Revenue came in at EUR 10 billion, reflecting revenue growth of just over 20%. Growth for the first half was, therefore, close to 20% and well above our original expectations. Our profit before special items rose to EUR 900 million including roughly EUR 100 million of timing effects at Grid Technologies. This corresponds to a profit margin of 9.1% for the quarter and an improvement of 700 basis points year-over-year.1.45์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋น„์œจ๋กœ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜์—ฌ 1,330์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ผ๋Š” ์‹ ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™์‹œ์— ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 100์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์—ฌ 20%๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋„˜๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์€ 20%์— ๊ทผ์ ‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์ดˆ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ญ๋ชฉ ์ฐจ๊ฐ ์ „ ์ด์ต์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์˜ ์•ฝ 1์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ 9์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ด์ต๋ฅ  9.1%์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 700bp ๊ฐœ์„ ๋œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The first half year profit margin was at 7.3%, an improvement of almost 5 percentage points year-over-year. Cash flow of EUR 1.4 billion yet again exceeded our expectations, taking cash flow for the first half year to EUR 2.9 billion. The improvement versus last year was driven by better results, but also by customer payments and reservation fees. The underlying trends in our markets remain strong. Globally, we see that our customers are keen to secure capacity given strong growth in electricity consumption and the need to transform the generation base. As an example, let me point out the current developments in Germany.์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 7.3%๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ 5%ํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 14์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์ €ํฌ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์„ ์ƒํšŒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ 29์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‹ค์ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ง€๋ถˆ๊ธˆ๊ณผ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ „๋ ฅ ์†Œ๋น„์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋ฐœ์ „ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์ „ํ™˜์˜ ํ•„์š”์„ฑ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜์—ฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•๋ณด์— ์ ๊ทน์ ์ธ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋…์ผ์˜ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We expect that under the new German government, the pragmatic approach will be pursued for the construction of new dispatchable gas-fired capacity of roughly 20 gigawatts over the coming years. While the underlying market trends remain strong, we have to see that the outlook for the global economy has become more uncertain, also because of the potential impact of global tariffs imposed by the United States and other countries. We are closely monitoring the developments and continuously analyzing the potential impact. For the second half of the fiscal year, we are currently estimating a limited direct impact to our results of up to a high double-digit profit impact after mitigation measures.์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋…์ผ ์ •๋ถ€ ํ•˜์—์„œ๋Š” ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์•ฝ 20๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋””์ŠคํŒจ์ฒ˜๋ธ” ๊ฐ€์Šค๋ฐœ์ „ ์„ค๋น„ ๊ฑด์„ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ธ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ถ”์ง„๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋™ํ–ฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ๋ถ€๊ณผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๊ด€์„ธ์˜ ์ž ์žฌ์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ฒฝ์ œ ์ „๋ง์ด ๋”์šฑ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹คํ•ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฉด๋ฐ€ํžˆ ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ž ์žฌ์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ„์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์™„ํ™” ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•œ ํ›„์—๋„ ๋†’์€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์ˆ˜์ต ์˜ํ–ฅ๊นŒ์ง€์˜ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์ง์ ‘์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์ €ํฌ ์‹ค์ ์— ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ถ”์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In our Gas business, we had an order backlog at the end of the quarter, representing 29 gigawatts and reservation agreements for around 21 gigawatts. We expect to convert these reservations into orders in fiscal year 2025 and in fiscal year 2026. Given the strong market demand, pricing remains favorable, which is reflected in a further improvement of our backlog margin. Business resilience is key in the current market environment. And therefore, I'm very pleased that we have been -- have seen significant progress over the last couple of months. Our balance sheet continues to improve as we had EUR 4.7 billion in net cash on the balance sheet at the end of this quarter.๊ฐ€์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 29๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ์™€ ์•ฝ 21๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค์€ 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์™€ 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์— ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์ด ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง„์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ์„ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—… ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 47์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆœํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Based on the excellent performance during the first half of fiscal year 2025, we have raised our fiscal year 2025 guidance. For our fiscal year 2028 targets, we will provide an update with the full year results on November 14. On November 19 and 20, we will host our Capital Market Day in Charlotte, North Carolina. We will not only showcase our biggest North American factory, but also provide further insights into our businesses and how we want to realize profitable growth. Let me elaborate briefly on the new fiscal year 2025 guidance. Maria will share more details later in the presentation. We increased our outlook for all KPIs: growth, margin, net income and cash flow.2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์˜ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2028 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” 11์›” 14์ผ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 11์›” 19์ผ๊ณผ 20์ผ์—๋Š” ๋…ธ์Šค์บ๋กค๋ผ์ด๋‚˜์ฃผ ์ƒฌ๋Ÿฟ์—์„œ ์ž๋ณธ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋‚ (Capital Market Day)์„ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์ €ํฌ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์™€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์‹คํ˜„ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋žตํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜ ํ›„๋ฐ˜๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋” ์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ , ๋งˆ์ง„, ์ˆœ์ด์ต, ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•ต์‹ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ง€ํ‘œ(KPI)์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „๋ง์„ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And given the faster growth at Gas Services and the stronger-than-expected revenue development at Siemens Gamesa, we now anticipate 13% to 15% growth compared to 8% to 10% before. The 100 basis points upgrade in our group profit margin expectation is predominantly driven by Grid Technologies. This is based on very strong execution and more significant cost degression than we had anticipated. This said, we also see Gas Services and transformation of industry progressing ahead of expectations. Driven by the favorable order trends, customer payment patterns and better-than-expected profitability, we now expect another year of strong cash flow, targeting around EUR 4 billion.๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค(Gas Services)์˜ ๋” ๋น ๋ฅธ ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ(Siemens Gamesa)์˜ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด์ œ ์ด์ „์˜ 8%~10% ๋Œ€๋น„ 13%~15% ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ด์ต๋ฅ  ์ „๋ง์˜ 100bp ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค(Grid Technologies)์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆcalls. ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ํญ์˜ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค์™€ ์‚ฐ์—… ์ „ํ™˜(Transformation of Industry) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ž์„œ ์ง„์ „๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๋™ํ–ฅ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ง€๊ธ‰ ํŒจํ„ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚˜์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ์•ฝ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์˜ ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We are doubling last year's cash flow level with very strong contributions from Gas Services as well as Grid Technologies. We are now expecting net income of up to EUR 1 billion, excluding the onetime gain related to the demerger of the Energy business from Siemens India Limited. Despite the fact that the debate about tariffs has led to economic uncertainties, the underlying market trends remain favorable. Electricity consumption continues to grow and aging infrastructure needs to be replaced. Growth in electricity consumption has been particularly strong in the United States, where we also see a big need to replace aging infrastructure.์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค(Gas Services)์™€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€(Grid Technologies) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์ธ๋„ ์œ ํ•œํšŒ์‚ฌ(Siemens India Limited)์˜ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€ ๋ถ„ํ• ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์ด์ต์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์ตœ๋Œ€ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€์„ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์ด ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์„ ์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์šฐํ˜ธ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ ฅ ์†Œ๋น„๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋…ธํ›„ํ™”๋œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ๊ต์ฒด๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ ฅ ์†Œ๋น„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋Š” ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋‘๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋„ ๋…ธํ›„ํ™”๋œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๊ต์ฒด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํฐ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Whilst tariffs would make certain projects in the U.S. more expensive and some projects may be delayed, we expect this to have only temporary effects on the demand and to be offset by strong demand in other regions. In the Middle East, demand remains strong. Saudi Arabia and the UAE continue to invest in sustainable and affordable electricity and energy infrastructure in countries like Libya, Iraq and Syria need to rebuild their electricity and energy infrastructure. In Asia Pacific, the continuous growth in GDP and rising standards also support ongoing investments.๊ด€์„ธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ํŠน์ • ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋“ค์˜ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์—ฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”์— ์ผ์‹œ์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋งŒ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๋™ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์šฐ๋””์•„๋ผ๋น„์•„์™€ UAE๋Š” ์ง€์† ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์ €๋ ดํ•œ ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฐ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ธํ”„๋ผ์— ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฆฌ๋น„์•„, ์ด๋ผํฌ, ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์•„์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฐ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ์žฌ๊ฑด์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ์•„ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์ธ GDP ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ์ƒํ™œ์ˆ˜์ค€ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์ด ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We had strong orders in North America with power generation and grid infrastructure investments being the main drivers, several data center-related orders for gas turbine-fired power plants and the lifetime extension of a nuclear steam turbine in this quarter support our view that data centers provide upside in demand and that we are experiencing a nuclear renaissance. In the Middle East, we booked 2 large orders in Saudi with a total contract value of roughly USD 1.6 billion, as we already announced during this quarter. In Saudi, we are seeing an oil to gas shift and these 2 power plants are replacing oil-fired power plants and reducing emissions by up to 60%.๋ถ๋ฏธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ „ ๋ฐ ์†ก์ „๋ง ์ธํ”„๋ผ ํˆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š” ๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋˜์–ด ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ๋ฐœ์ „์†Œ ๊ด€๋ จ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์™€ ์›์ž๋ ฅ ์ฆ๊ธฐํ„ฐ๋นˆ์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ช… ์—ฐ์žฅ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ƒ์Šน ์š”์ธ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›์ž๋ ฅ ๋ฅด๋„ค์ƒ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๋™์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ค‘ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์‚ฌ์šฐ๋””์—์„œ ์ด ๊ณ„์•ฝ๊ธˆ์•ก ์•ฝ 16์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ฃผ 2๊ฑด์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์šฐ๋””์—์„œ๋Š” ์„์œ ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์Šค๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด 2๊ฐœ ๋ฐœ์ „์†Œ๋Š” ์„์œ  ํ™”๋ ฅ๋ฐœ์ „์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์ฒดํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฐฐ์ถœ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ 60%๊นŒ์ง€ ์ค„์ผ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
A highlight in Europe was a Grid Technologies project, which connects Norfolk Wing at West and East and RWE project where Grid Technologies is responsible for the onshore station and the high-voltage equipment in the offshore substation. During the quarter, we also received an order in Taiwan for 2 gas turbines and related components for the Kuo Kuang 2 power plant in Taiwan. Let me now give you some current examples to underline our focus on profitable growth. Our ongoing capacity expansions and ramp-up activities across all business areas are well on track.์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋Š” Norfolk Wing at West and East๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” Grid Technologies ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์™€ Grid Technologies๊ฐ€ ์œก์ƒ ๋ณ€์ „์†Œ ๋ฐ ํ•ด์ƒ ๋ณ€์ „์†Œ์˜ ๊ณ ์•• ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” RWE ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ค‘์—๋Š” ๋Œ€๋งŒ์˜ Kuo Kuang 2 ๋ฐœ์ „์†Œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ 2๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๋„ ๋Œ€๋งŒ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ง‘์ค‘์„ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ์˜์—ญ์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•์žฅ๊ณผ ์ฆ์‚ฐ ํ™œ๋™์ด ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Besides our capacity ramp-up for large gas turbines in Berlin, which will materialize in fiscal year 2027, we are also expanding our capacities for medium-sized gas turbines. This means we will be able to cope even more efficiently with a strong market demand. During the quarter, Siemens Gamesa started to deliver our flagship SG 14 turbine to the Sofia side of the U.K. coast in the Baltic Sea and successfully installed the 5,000 offshore wind turbine. This means that Siemens Gamesa has now delivered an offshore wind turbine capacity of 27 gigawatts to sites in 14 countries.2027 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์— ์‹คํ˜„๋  ๋ฒ ๋ฅผ๋ฆฐ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์™ธ์—๋„, ์ค‘ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๋„ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋”์šฑ ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฐœํŠธํ•ด ์˜๊ตญ ์—ฐ์•ˆ์˜ ์†Œํ”ผ์•„ ์‚ฌ์ด๋“œ์— ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ํ”Œ๋ž˜๊ทธ์‹ญ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ธ SG 14 ํ„ฐ๋นˆ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 5,000๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์„ค์น˜๋ฅผ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์™„๋ฃŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ๊นŒ์ง€ 14๊ฐœ๊ตญ์˜ ์‚ฌ์—…์žฅ์— ์ด 27๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We continue to develop our training programs to attract young professionals, and I'm very pleased that we are successfully competing for talent in our industry. I mentioned that the pricing environment remains favorable. Despite that, we continue to apply strict selectivity on the project we take into our order backlog. Additionally, our teams focus strictly on cost-out initiatives and productivity measures to remain competitive. I already mentioned the cost degression effects at Grid Technologies. These show that we are effectively limiting the overhead costs in the factories and in the functions in this growth environment.์ Š์€ ์ „๋ฌธ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์œ ์น˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ต์œก ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ธ์žฌ ํ™•๋ณด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—์„œ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์šฐํ˜ธ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ์— ํฌํ•จ์‹œํ‚ฌ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ์„ ๋ณ„์„ฑ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํŒ€๋“ค์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์™€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ ์กฐ์น˜์— ์—„๊ฒฉํžˆ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์˜ ๋น„์šฉ ์ฒด๊ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ๊ณต์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ฐ„์ ‘๋น„๋ฅผ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œํ•œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
At the same time, the integration of Siemens Gamesa into Siemens Energy is well on track to achieve the targeted cost savings. Considering our position in the nuclear market, we entered into a partnership agreement with Rolls-Royce in February, which is expected to lead to the exclusive supply of steam turbines, generators and other auxiliary systems for small modular reactors. At Siemens Gamesa, we execute our strategy to focus on selected core markets in our onshore wind business. We agreed to materially divest our wind business in India and Sri Lanka to a group of investors led by TPG. Closing of the transaction is expected latest by the beginning of fiscal year 2026.๋™์‹œ์— ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์˜ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ํ†ตํ•ฉ์€ ๋ชฉํ‘œํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›์ž๋ ฅ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž…์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜์—ฌ, 2์›”์— ๋กค์Šค๋กœ์ด์Šค์™€ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์†Œํ˜• ๋ชจ๋“ˆํ˜• ์›์ž๋กœ์šฉ ์ฆ๊ธฐํ„ฐ๋นˆ, ๋ฐœ์ „๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋ณด์กฐ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋…์  ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์—์„œ๋Š” ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ์„ ๋ณ„๋œ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „๋žต์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TPG๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ์ธ๋„์™€ ์Šค๋ฆฌ๋ž‘์นด์˜ ํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ•ฉ์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์™„๋ฃŒ๋Š” ๋Šฆ์–ด๋„ 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ดˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Let me briefly address our situation in the U.S., including the tariff debate, which has been one of the most discussed topics over the last weeks. Siemens Energy has been present in the United States for more than 100 years in some major acquisitions such as the Westinghouse Power Generation business in 1998 and Dresser-Rand in 2014 have increased our footprint significantly. Currently, we have 8 major manufacturing sites and a total of around 12,000 employees working in the U.S.๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ์ €ํฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋žตํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ๋…ผ์˜๋œ ์ฃผ์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋…ผ์Ÿ๋„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋Š” 100๋…„ ์ด์ƒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์ง„์ถœํ•ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 1998๋…„ ์›จ์ŠคํŒ…ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค ๋ฐœ์ „ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€ ์ธ์ˆ˜์™€ 2014๋…„ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์„œ-๋žœ๋“œ ์ธ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฃผ์š” ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” 8๊ฐœ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์ œ์กฐ ์‹œ์„ค์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ด ์•ฝ 12,000๋ช…์˜ ์ง์›์ด ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It is one of our most important markets with EUR 7 billion of revenue in fiscal year 2024 and orders of more than EUR 10 billion, which are currently significantly increasing, as you could see a couple of slides before. The order backlog at the end of fiscal year 2024 stood at around EUR 24 billion. Based on the great potential we see in the United States, we continue to expand our footprint in the U.S. We will have invested roughly EUR 500 million in the United States by the end of this fiscal year since fiscal year 2023. With the potential tariffs impact in the U.S., the outlook for the global economy has become more uncertain.๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ 2024 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋งค์ถœ 70์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์™€ 100์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ช‡ ์žฅ ์ „ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ณด์…จ๋“ฏ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2024 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” ์•ฝ 240์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํฐ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2023 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์•ฝ 5์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํˆฌ์žํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ž ์žฌ์  ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๊ฒฝ์ œ ์ „๋ง์ด ๋”์šฑ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹คํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We are closely monitoring the developments and continuously analyzing the potential impact. At the same time, we are taking proactive steps to mitigate those. We are, as Siemens Energy, not immune to tariffs as we have a global supply chain and trade flows into the United States from the rest of the world. It is also important to get a better understanding of the secondary trade policy effects on GDP and energy demand and tertiary effects such as potential changes in customer behaviors. Besides the direct financial implications, those new tariffs and regulations will add bureaucratic hurdles to the import process for authorities and importers.์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ ์ „๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๋ฉด๋ฐ€ํžˆ ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ž ์žฌ์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ„์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™์‹œ์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์™„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์„ ์ œ์  ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ๋ฌด์—ญ ํ๋ฆ„์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ด€์„ธ์—์„œ ์ž์œ ๋กญ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ GDP์™€ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ 2์ฐจ ๋ฌด์—ญ์ •์ฑ… ํšจ๊ณผ์™€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ–‰๋™ ๋ณ€ํ™” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ 3์ฐจ ํšจ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ดํ•ด๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ์žฌ์ •์  ์˜ํ–ฅ ์™ธ์—๋„, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€์„ธ์™€ ๊ทœ์ œ๋Š” ๋‹น๊ตญ๊ณผ ์ˆ˜์ž…์—…์ฒด์˜ ์ˆ˜์ž… ์ ˆ์ฐจ์— ๊ด€๋ฃŒ์  ์žฅ๋ฒฝ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So we have set up a global task force to assess the best approach for Siemens Energy, acknowledging the complexity and fluidity of the situation. And this is an ongoing exercise, and we focus on what we can control. And when it comes to existing protections, we have contractual terms such as change of law clauses, which largely protect our equipment backlog according to those the import and the cost associated with the import are charged to the customer. When it comes to the service business, the picture is more mixed.๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์˜ ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ๊ณผ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํƒœ์Šคํฌํฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ธ ์ž‘์—…์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ณดํ˜ธ ์กฐ์น˜์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ฒ•๋ฅ  ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ ์กฐํ•ญ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณ„์•ฝ ์กฐ๊ฑด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์กฐํ•ญ๋“ค์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ˆ˜์ž… ๋ฐ ์ˆ˜์ž…๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฒญ๊ตฌ๋˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ €ํฌ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ข€ ๋” ๋ณตํ•ฉ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Contracts differ widely, but service contracts have in common that the cost base is more local and that escalation clauses are embedded in these contracts, which provide us with a certain degree of protection. And keep in mind that we operate a very decent local footprint, as I said before, with 8 factories in the U.S. Although we are, to a large degree, covered through the duration of our backlog, we are working on further mitigation measures with the target to raise further our local content in the United States. This accounts to the supply chain as well as our own production. This will take some time, and we are taking it step by step.๊ณ„์•ฝ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ๋น„์šฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ด ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ˜„์ง€ํ™”๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์— ์—์Šค์ปฌ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜ ์กฐํ•ญ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์˜ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ง‰์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด 8๊ฐœ ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฌ์‹คํ•œ ํ˜„์ง€ ๊ฑฐ์ ์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ํ˜„์ง€ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ ๋น„์ค‘์„ ๋”์šฑ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์™„ํ™” ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ž์ฒด ์ƒ์‚ฐ์—๋„ ํ•ด๋‹น๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ณ„๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In our raised guidance for fiscal year 2025, we have anticipated what we know as of today with respect to tariffs. For the second half of the fiscal year, we are currently estimating a limited direct impact to Siemens Energy of up to a high double-digit million euro impact after mitigation. Again, this includes already existing protection as well as the short-term measures we have at hand. As always, we will revisit our business assumption in our mid- to long-term planning over the summer months and hopefully the picture around tariffs and feasible further mitigation measures will be more stable then.2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋œ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ํ˜„์žฌ๊นŒ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์™„ํ™” ์กฐ์น˜ ํ›„ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ง์ ‘์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋†’์€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์ œํ•œ์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ถ”์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณดํ˜ธ ์กฐ์น˜์™€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ๋Œ€์‘์ฑ…๋“ค์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์ฒ  ๋™์•ˆ ์ค‘์žฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„ํš์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ฐ€์ •๋“ค์„ ์žฌ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋•Œ์ฏค์ด๋ฉด ๊ด€์„ธ์™€ ์‹คํ–‰ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์™„ํ™” ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋”์šฑ ์•ˆ์ •ํ™”๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Based on that, we will provide you with an update on fiscal year 2028 targets with our quarter 4 results. And with this, let me hand over to Maria. Maria Ferraro

Thank you, Christian. Good morning, everyone, and a very warm welcome also from my side. I'm pleased to share with you our Q2 financial results, and let me start straight away with the Siemens Energy Group figures. As indicated, we had another very strong quarter, exceeding basically all major KPIs compared with expectations. We, therefore, had the announcement on April 16 pre-releasing our key figures, upgrading the outlook for fiscal year '25. Let's get right into orders.
์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ 2028 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ํŽ˜๋ผ๋กœ

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์˜๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์š” KPI์—์„œ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 4์›” 16์ผ์— ์ฃผ์š” ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ „ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๊ณ  2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ „๋ง์„ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์‹ค์ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Orders, as mentioned, reached EUR 14.4 billion for the quarter. This is on the back of very strong demand, which continued by more than 50% increase versus prior year. The improvement was primarily driven by an increase in our new unit business, growing significantly by 67% and supported by a substantial rise in the service business with 30% compared to Q2 of fiscal year '24. Service share for the first half of fiscal year '25 stands at 37%. Our book-to-bill ratio, 1.45, again driving our backlog to our high -- new high of EUR 133 billion. Margin quality, which is very important in our backlog continues to improve.์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 144์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 50% ์ด์ƒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์„ ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ์˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ๋„๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 67%์˜ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , 24ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 30% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ์ƒ์Šน์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 25ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋น„์ค‘์€ 37%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋น„์œจ์€ 1.45๋กœ, ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ตœ๊ณ ์น˜์ธ 1,330์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This reflects a number of factors, for example, positive pricing, developments above cost inflation, of course, our execution, and this all supports our mid-term profitability targets. Revenue stood at EUR 10 billion. This is up by just shy of 21% on a comparable basis and this is the highest or a record quarterly revenue since the inception of Siemens Energy. All segments grew double digit to support this revenue, and it was also supported by better pricing across all business areas. Again, revenue grew significantly in both new units at 23% and service at 16% comparable.์ด๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์š”์ธ์„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •, ๋น„์šฉ ์ธํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ „, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ค‘๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 100์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 21% ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์„ค๋ฆฝ ์ดํ›„ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ  ๋˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ๋งค์ถœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ์˜ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์— ์˜ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด, ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„์—์„œ 23%, ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—์„œ 16%๋กœ ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Profit before special items increased by more than 5x year-over-year with all segments improving and contributing to this result. Profit stood at EUR 906 million. This is a 9.1% margin and was mainly due to a couple of factors. Firstly, increased volume, corresponding fixed cost absorption effects as well as execution of high-margin projects also driven by better pricing. Additionally, it should be noted in our profit for Grid Technologies, we benefited from positive timing effects of approximately EUR 100 million. This mainly refers to a project where we did some preliminary work and based on a limited notice to proceed from the customer.ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ญ๋ชฉ ์ œ์™ธ ์ด์ต์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์–ด ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 5๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ต์€ 9์–ต 600๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” 9.1%์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์œผ๋กœ, ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์ธ์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ณ ์ •๋น„ ํก์ˆ˜ ํšจ๊ณผ์™€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ณ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์‹คํ–‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์ด์ต์—์„œ ์•ฝ 1์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ์˜ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์˜ˆ๋น„ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As a result, the cost at that time for the preliminary works ran through the P&L without any profit as the 0 profit margin method was applied. In Q2, we then accordingly received the final notice to proceed. This led to a catch-up effect and the underlying margin was realized. Looking at net income, this is positive at EUR 501 million. Just a reminder that for the full year, we now expect based on the unchanged -- changed guidance rather, a net income to be up to EUR 1 billion, again, excluding any assumed positive special item effects subsequent to the demerger of the energy business from Siemens Limited India.๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ, ๋‹น์‹œ ์˜ˆ๋น„ ์ž‘์—… ๋น„์šฉ์€ 0% ์ด์ต๋ฅ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ ์šฉ๋˜์–ด ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์ด์ต๋„ ์—†์ด ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ์— ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ตœ์ข… ์ง„ํ–‰ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ธฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ธฐ์ € ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ์‹คํ˜„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆœ์ด์ต์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด 5์–ต 1๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์–‘์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์ „๋ง๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋œ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์ด ์ตœ๋Œ€ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹œ๋ฉ˜์Šค ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ‹ฐ๋“œ ์ธ๋””์•„์—์„œ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€ ๋ถ„ํ•  ์ดํ›„ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ •๋˜๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํŠน๋ณ„ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This is expected to lead to a positive special items in a mid-3 digit million euro range in the third quarter. Free cash flow was again stronger than expected at EUR 1.4 billion and improved by just shy of EUR 1 billion year-over-year, driven again by increased profit and positive working capital benefit namely project advance payments as well as reservation fees. I will now -- I will talk a little bit more about the drivers of cash flow on Slide 12. Looking at order backlog on the next slide. Here, we see our new high of EUR 133 billion. Of course, as we indicated in previous quarters, this really provides us transparency well into the future, as you see per annum.์ด๋Š” 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 3์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ 14์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๊ทผ์ ‘ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ต๊ณผ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์šด์˜์ž๋ณธ ํšจ๊ณผ, ์ฆ‰ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์„ ๊ธ‰๊ธˆ๊ณผ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 12์—์„œ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๋™์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 1,330์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ตœ๊ณ ์น˜๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด์ „ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ด๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And fiscal year '25 revenue coverage now stands at around 94%. In fiscal year '26, we are already sitting at approximately 77%. And we continue to see an upward margin trend across all business areas, driven mainly by pricing above cost inflation. Again, our growing backlog provides a strong foundation for our fiscal year '25 outlook and our midterm targets. Moving on to cash flow. For Q2, we see free cash flow pretax of EUR 1.4 billion, again, around EUR 900 million higher than in Q2 of prior year.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋งค์ถœ ์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์•ฝ 94% ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ์•ฝ 77%์— ๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์ƒ์Šน ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋น„์šฉ ์ธํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ „๋ง๊ณผ ์ค‘๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์„ธ์ „ ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์ด 14์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ 9์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This is mainly due to improved profit across all businesses, strong orders, which yet again drove project advance payments and this is reflected in the positive change of net operating working capital as well as reservation fees. Please keep in mind that the EUR 501 million net income in Q2 also includes a negative EUR 265 million noncash impairment related to the disposal of the India wind business, which has been added back in the cash flow statement. This is mainly reflected in the increase of the amortization, depreciation and impairment line item. A quick update on the quality cash outs with respect to Siemens Gamesa.์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋œ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ, ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ธˆ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ˆœ ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํ™” ๋ฐ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ์— ๋ฐ˜์˜๋œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ 5์–ต 100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์—๋Š” ์ธ๋„ ํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋งค๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ 2์–ต 6,500๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๋น„ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์†์ƒ์ฐจ์†์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ํ‘œ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์‚ฐ ์กฐ์ •๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์œ ๋…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐ, ๊ฐ๊ฐ€์ƒ๊ฐ ๋ฐ ์†์ƒ์ฐจ์† ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์˜ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์œ ์ถœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This amounted to EUR 84 million in the quarter, and as a reminder, for the full year, we've indicated guidance here of a mid-triple million amount. When it comes to CapEx, we confirm the outlook we provided in Q4. This is approximately or around EUR 2 billion, but clearly, with a waiting or a hockey stick towards the second half of the fiscal year. Now looking at net cash on the right-hand side of the slide. Overall, we have EUR 9 billion in cash and cash equivalents, which is the highest ever cash balance since the spin or since the inception of Siemens Energy. We have stable EUR 3.9 billion of financial debt, of which EUR 2.9 billion is long term.์ด๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 8,400๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์ „์ฒด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ฐ„ 3์ž๋ฆฌ ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•œ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ ์ „๋ง์„ ํ™•์ธํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์•ฝ 20์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ค‘์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‘๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜ํ‚ค์Šคํ‹ฑ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ํŒจํ„ด์„ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ ์šฐ์ธก์˜ ์ˆœํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ๋ฐ ํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ฑ ์ž์‚ฐ์ด 90์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์˜ ๋ถ„์‚ฌ ์ดํ›„ ๋˜๋Š” ์„ค๋ฆฝ ์ดํ›„ ์—ญ๋Œ€ ์ตœ๊ณ  ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์ž”๊ณ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธˆ์œต๋ถ€์ฑ„๋Š” 39์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์ค‘ 29์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ๋ถ€์ฑ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Considering the pension provisions, this brings us to an adjusted net cash position of $4.7 billion at the end of March. This is compared to an adjusted net cash position of EUR 1.3 billion a year ago. So with this, we continue to have a strong focus on our balance sheet. We want a strong balance sheet that, of course, is in line with our strong investment-grade profile. As mentioned in the Q1 call, the exit from the [indiscernible] guarantee facility is a priority. We are already preparing the replacement of the [indiscernible] guarantee facility and remain committed to exiting the facility as soon as possible and particularly in this fiscal year, if possible.์—ฐ๊ธˆ์ถฉ๋‹น๊ธˆ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Š” 3์›” ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์กฐ์ • ์ˆœํ˜„๊ธˆํฌ์ง€์…˜ 47์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” 1๋…„ ์ „ ์กฐ์ • ์ˆœํ˜„๊ธˆํฌ์ง€์…˜ 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์™€ ๋น„๊ต๋˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ง‘์ค‘์„ ์ง€์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋“ฑ๊ธ‰ ํ”„๋กœํ•„๊ณผ ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•œ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ฝœ์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, [์‹๋ณ„๋ถˆ๊ฐ€] ๋ณด์ฆ ์ œ๋„์—์„œ์˜ ํƒˆํ‡ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ [์‹๋ณ„๋ถˆ๊ฐ€] ๋ณด์ฆ ์ œ๋„์˜ ๋Œ€์ฒด๋ฐฉ์•ˆ์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋‚ด์— ํ•ด๋‹น ์ œ๋„์—์„œ ํƒˆํ‡ดํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์•ฝ์†์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Now let's take a look at the business areas and let's start with Gas Services. A very strong order for our Gas Services business and a half year development. This is a record quarter for GS with orders of EUR 7 billion. This more than doubled from previous year. This outstanding result was due to many large orders booked in different parts of the world. We have a book-to-bill ratio here of 2.22 a record order backlog of EUR 52 billion. Again, Q2 was characterized by a very strong gas market for gas turbines with greater than 10 megawatts with the largest markets being in the Middle East and the U.S.์ด์ œ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์™€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋Š” 70์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•œ GS ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•œ ๋•๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ ๋น„์œจ(book-to-bill ratio)์€ 2.22๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” 520์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์—ญ์‹œ 10๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์‹œ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ํŠน์ง•์ง€์–ด์กŒ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์ค‘๋™๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In Q2, we booked 61 gas turbines greater than 10 megawatts for the power generation oil and gas. 18 of those were large gas turbines. Our gas turbines greater than 10-megawatt market share for power generation stood at 40%. Looking at revenue for GS, this was EUR 3.2 billion. It's just shy of 19% increase on a comparable basis. Here, we see Service business showed significant growth of 22% and New Unit business of 10%. The Service share as a percentage of revenue in Q2 was 67%, very stable versus 66% in prior year, supporting a margin expansion again in a favorable business mix. Q1 profit stood at EUR 511 million, an increase of 34% year-on-year, resulting in a margin of 16.1%.2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ „ ๋ฐ ์„์œ ๊ฐ€์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ 10๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ 61๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ฃผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ค‘ 18๋Œ€๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ์ „ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ 10๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ์ด์ƒ ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์€ 40%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

GS ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด 32์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 19% ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์€ 22%์˜ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ์‚ฌ์—…์€ 10% ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋น„์ค‘์€ 67%๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ 66% ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งค์šฐ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ™•๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ด์ต์€ 5์–ต 1,100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 34% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๋งˆ์ง„์€ 16.1%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This is the highest quarterly profit for GS ever since spin. This is an improvement of approximately 175 bps, driven by higher volume in the Service business, as just mentioned and better margin quality of the processed order backlog, again, driven by better pricing. Just a friendly reminder, after a very strong first half, I do want to remind everybody about the seasonality, particularly in our Gas Services business is such that the mix in the second half, and this is particular also in Q4. This shifts towards more New Units and less Service business from a mix and therefore, has a downward impact on the margin. This year will not be different from prior years.์ด๋Š” ๋ถ„์‚ฌ ์ดํ›„ GS์˜ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋œ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ž”๊ณ ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ์•ฝ 175bp์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ํ›„, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๊ณ„์ ˆ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ, ํŠนํžˆ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜ ๋ฏน์Šค๋Š” ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—… ๋น„์ค‘์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋งˆ์ง„์— ํ•˜ํ–ฅ ์••๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด๋„ ์ด์ „ ์—ฐ๋„๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So now let's look at Grid Technologies, please. Yet again, GT, well done, delivered significant improvements across all KPIs. Q2 orders of EUR 5.2 billion. This was driven by a strong broad-based demand across products and solutions as well as also mentioned earlier, in different regions, particularly increased volume from large orders in Europe. Orders include HVDC orders of approximately EUR 1 billion as well as several other fax orders with a total volume of approximately EUR 500 million. Book-to-bill ratio, 1.82. Order backlog for GT, just like GS, also a new record high of EUR 38 billion. Revenue for Q2 grew by just shy of 34% on a comparable basis.์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GT๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๋ฉฐ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•ต์‹ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ง€ํ‘œ(KPI)์—์„œ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์•ก์€ 52์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”์™€ ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ, ํŠนํžˆ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ํž˜์ž…์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ HVDC(์ดˆ๊ณ ์•• ์ง๋ฅ˜์†ก์ „) ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์™€ ์ด ์•ฝ 5์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํŒฉ์Šค ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ ๋น„์œจ์€ 1.82๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GT์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” GS์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ 380์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝ์‹ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๋น„๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 34% ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And again, it increased both in product and solutions business. I think that's important to note. Q2 profit was EUR 571 million. This more than doubled compared to prior year and resulted in a margin of 19.9%. Also for GT, this is the highest quarterly profit since the inception of the company. Improvement here was driven by strong operational performance, higher volume, including corresponding degression effects, operational improvements and the higher margin in the process order backlog. The strong underlying profitability of around 16.4% and was further elevated by those positive timing effects I just mentioned of EUR 100 million approximately. Now looking at transformation of industry.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ด์ต์€ 5์–ต 7,100๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ 19.9%์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ GT์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์„ค๋ฆฝ ์ดํ›„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†’์€ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ด์ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์€ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์šด์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ, ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ทœ๋ชจ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๋†’์€ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰, ์šด์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์ • ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ž”๊ณ ์—์„œ์˜ ๋†’์€ ๋งˆ์ง„์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ 16.4%์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ดˆ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์•ฝ 1์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋”์šฑ ์ƒ์Šนํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์‚ฐ์—… ์ „ํ™˜์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Orders for the quarter were at EUR 1.6 billion. This was essentially flatter, a 2% decrease relatively unchanged versus a high prior year comparable base. There was 1 large order that was booked last year, taking that out, actually underlying the orders grew this year. Service orders grew and increased by 17%. This was supported by an increasing share in mods and upgrades. Book-to-bill was above 1 at 1.11 and order backlog at the end of the quarter amounted to EUR 8 billion. Revenue grew by 10.5%. This was driven by all businesses. The strong growth in new units and service both grew. And the biggest contributor in Q2 was the compression business for revenue at plus 21% year-over-year.์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์€ 16์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 2% ๊ฐ์†Œ๋กœ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณดํ•ฉ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋†’์€ ๊ธฐ์ค€์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„์— 1๊ฑด์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ์ ‘์ˆ˜๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๊ธฐ์ € ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์€ 17% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐœ์กฐ ๋ฐ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ๋น„์ค‘ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ํž˜์ž…์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  ๋น„์œจ(Book-to-bill)์€ 1์„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” 1.11์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ง ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” 80์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 10.5% ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„์™€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์••์ถ• ์‚ฌ์—…์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 21% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Profit was EUR 155 million. Again, for TI. This is almost double from prior year. Margin was 11% correspondingly. Improvement was mainly due to volume growth particularly, as I just mentioned in the Service business and improved margin quality of the order backlog. Moving on to Siemens Gamesa. This quarter was in line with expectations, so Q2 orders stood just shy of EUR 1 billion, essentially on prior year's level. As expected, there were no large orders in the offshore business and onshore orders continue to be affected by the temporary interruption of sales activities. Book-to-bill ratio accordingly came in below 1 at 0.32. The backlog at quarter end stood at EUR 36 billion.TI์˜ ์ด์ต์€ 1์–ต 5,500๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ์— ๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๋งˆ์ง„์€ 11%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์„  ์š”์ธ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์ž”๊ณ ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ƒ๊ณผ ์ผ์น˜ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋Š” 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ชป ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ์ˆ˜์ค€๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ , ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋Š” ์˜์—… ํ™œ๋™์˜ ์ผ์‹œ์  ์ค‘๋‹จ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ/๋งค์ถœ ๋น„์œจ์€ 0.32๋กœ 1์„ ํ•˜ํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ง ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” 360์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And revenue here, we see Q2 revenue grew significantly by 16% to EUR 2.7 billion. This is due to the growth in the offshore business. The Offshore business, including Service experienced growth of 51% for revenue in the quarter. Q2 profit for Siemens Gamesa before special items came in at negative EUR 249 million. This marks an improvement of around EUR 200 million year-over-year, and keeps us again on track. We reconfirm our full year guidance of a loss of around EUR 1.3 billion. Again, improvement was based on onshore -- offshore excuse me, due to higher volume and corresponding fixed cost absorption effects. In addition, very typical in project business, we see project-related one-offs.๋งค์ถœ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด 27์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ 16% ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด 51% ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์˜ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ญ๋ชฉ ์ฐจ๊ฐ ์ „ ์ด์ต์€ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 2์–ต 4,900๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ 2์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋ฉฐ, ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ถค๋„์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์•ฝ 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์†์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์žฌํ™•์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ฐœ์„ ์€ ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ, ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ทธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ณ ์ •๋น„ ํก์ˆ˜ ํšจ๊ณผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ „ํ˜•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ๊ด€๋ จ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์š”์ธ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Some are negative, some are positive. But in this case, we had some tailwind from project-related one-offs from a positive perspective. In onshore, we saw a moderate improvement year-on-year as we continue to work through the onerous backlog as we've reported quarter-over-quarter as well as the quality issues. Just again, additionally to shed a bit more light on the Siemens Gamesa India business, on March 26, we announced the divestment of the majority stake of this business in line with our objective to focus and derisk the onshore business. This led to an impairment of EUR 265 million, which is included in special items.์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ๊ด€๋ จ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์š”์ธ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ˆœํ’์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ ํ•ด์˜จ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ถ€๋‹ด์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์™€ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์„ ๊ณ„์† ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์™„๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ ์ธ๋„ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, 3์›” 26์ผ์— ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์ง€๋ฐฐ์ง€๋ถ„์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด 2์–ต 6,500๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์†์ƒ์ฐจ์†์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We expect deconsolidation by the end of this fiscal year or beginning of next fiscal year. Let me now move to our revised outlook for fiscal year '25. So overall, Siemens Energy now expects 13% to 15% comparable revenue growth, previously 8% to 10%, a profit margin of 4% to 6%, previously 3% to 5%. Again, this includes a limited direct impact from tariffs on Siemens Energy profit of up to a high double-digit amount after mitigation measures. Net income of up to EUR 1 billion, previously was at breakeven. Again, excluding any positive special items from the demerger of the Energy business from Siemens Limited India. Free cash flow pretax of around EUR 4 billion.์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ดˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ 25ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ˆ˜์ •๋œ ์ „๋ง์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋น„๊ต๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ  13%~15%๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด 8%~10%์—์„œ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 4%~6%๋กœ, ๊ธฐ์กด 3%~5%์—์„œ ์ƒํ–ฅ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๋Š” ์™„ํ™” ์กฐ์น˜ ํ›„ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ˆ˜์ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์„ธ์˜ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์ง์ ‘์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ, ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๋†’์€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๊ธˆ์•ก๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ ์ตœ๋Œ€ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ๊ธฐ์กด์—๋Š” ์†์ต๋ถ„๊ธฐ์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์—ญ์‹œ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ‹ฐ๋“œ ์ธ๋””์•„๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€ ๋ถ„ํ• ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ํŠน๋ณ„ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์€ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ์ „ ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ ์•ฝ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This was previously up to EUR 1 billion. So again, almost all of the assumptions for business area have been raised. You see them there in front of you. They've been detailed, and an update of the midterm targets will be provided with the full year results in November and further elaborated at the CMD straight after. So with this, thank you very much for your attention, and I turn it back to you, Christian. Christian Bruch

Thank you, Maria. Let me keep it very brief and leave you with some key messages before we go to the question-and-answer session.
์ด์ „์—๋Š” 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๊นŒ์ง€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ, ์‚ฌ์—… ์˜์—ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ€์ •๋“ค์ด ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์•ž์— ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์„ธ๋ถ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์˜ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋Š” 11์›” ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ œ๊ณต๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ดํ›„ CMD์—์„œ ๋”์šฑ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ Christian์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Christian Bruch

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Maria. ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์„ธ์…˜์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Message #1, we are executing better than expected, which allowed us to raise our guidance for this fiscal year across all 4 KPIs: growth, margin, net income and cash flow. And as Maria said, we will update our fiscal year 2028 targets in November. Message #2 is that demand for our products, solutions and services remains because of strong growth in electricity demand and the aging infrastructure. The debate about tariffs has led to economic uncertainties, but we expect that in case of a temporary weakness in the U.S. that can be offset by the strong demand in other regions.๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€ #1, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์˜ฌ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 4๊ฐœ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ง€ํ‘œ ๋ชจ๋‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค: ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ , ๋งˆ์ง„, ์ˆœ์ด์ต ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, 11์›”์— 2028 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์น˜๋ฅผ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€ #2๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์š”์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋…ธํ›„ํ™”๋œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ œํ’ˆ, ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ๋ฐ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€์„ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์ด ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์„ ์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ผ์‹œ์ ์ธ ์•ฝ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋กœ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And Message #3 is that we continue to invest in our ability to execute and that we continue to strengthen our resilient business model and to grow profitably. And Message #4 is that despite the fact that we are investing in the business, we enjoy excellent cash conversion and continue to strengthen our balance sheet further. So we are all well placed and fully committed to deliver value to our shareholders. And with this, I'm looking forward to the question-and-answer session.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€ 3๋ฒˆ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹คํ–‰ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€ 4๋ฒˆ์€ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์ „ํ™˜์œจ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ฃผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ—Œ์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here are the key points from the earnings call in Korean:

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ๋ฐ ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ผ์ธ
- Q2 ๋งค์ถœ 100์–ต ์œ ๋กœ (์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 20% ์„ฑ์žฅ)
- ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  1,330์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- FY2025 ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ผ์ธ ์ƒํ–ฅ: ๋งค์ถœ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ  13-15%, ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  4-6%, ์ˆœ์ด์ต ์ตœ๋Œ€ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ

โ€ข ์‚ฌ์—… ํ™˜๊ฒฝ
- ์ „๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋…ธํ›„ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๊ต์ฒด ์ˆ˜์š”๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ ์ง€์†
- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ด€์„ธ ์ •์ฑ…์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋‚˜, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ์ œํ•œ์  ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ์ค‘๋™๊ณผ ์•„์‹œ์•„ ๋“ฑ ํƒ€ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋กœ ์ƒ์‡„ ์ „๋ง

โ€ข ์žฌ๋ฌด ๊ฑด์ „์„ฑ
- ์ˆœํ˜„๊ธˆ 47์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๋ณด์œ 
- ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์œผ๋กœ FY2025 ์˜์—…ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์ง€์† ๊ฐœ์„  ์ค‘

โ€ข ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ
- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ ์ตœ์†Œํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํƒœ์Šคํฌํฌ์Šค ์šด์˜
- ํ˜„์ง€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ํ™•๋Œ€ ๋“ฑ ๋Œ€์‘์ฑ… ๋งˆ๋ จ ์ค‘
- ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ„์•ฝ์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๊ด€์„ธ ์œ„ํ—˜ ๋ณดํ˜ธ ์กฐํ•ญ ํฌํ•จ


โ“ Q&A

Original Translation
A - Michael Hagmann: Thank you, Christian. Thank you, Maria. We have just under 30 minutes now for questions. [Operator Instructions] So the first 3 questions go to Alex Virgo, Max Yates and Sebastian Growe. Alex, if you please go ahead.**A - Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„. ์ด์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ 30๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. [์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ 3๊ฐœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์•Œ๋ ‰์Šค ๋น„๋ฅด๊ณ , ๋งฅ์Šค ์˜ˆ์ด์ธ , ์„ธ๋ฐ”์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ฒ  ์ˆœ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋ ‰์Šค, ๋จผ์ € ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
Alexander Stuart Virgo: I wondered, could you just talk a little bit about the dynamics in this slot reservation situation in GS for us? I wondered with the context of that answer, if you could talk to the pricing dynamics and whether you're presumably still signing contracts at a higher price than is in the backlog and obviously in the P&L? And whether or not you could just talk a little bit to the customer composition of those slot reservations and whether or not you've seen any kind of movements as people -- I think you referred at the conference back in March to some concerns around people putting slot reservations with you and with your immediate competitors. I wonder if you could just talk a little bit about how that has sort of evolved Q-on-Q and whether it's -- the number is the same, right? 20, 21 gigawatts. So presumably, you've converted some and taken some new ones. So if you could talk about that, that would be great.**Alexander Stuart Virgo:** GS์˜ ์Šฌ๋กฏ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ญํ•™๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์—ญํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋‚˜ ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ์— ๋ฐ˜์˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋†’์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ๋งž๋‚˜์š”?

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์Šฌ๋กฏ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ค ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 3์›” ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜์™€ ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์Šฌ๋กฏ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ ค๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ˆซ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? 20~21๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Yes. Thanks, Alex. Thanks for the questions. And you more or less have said it already, right? I mean it was really -- we converted 8 gigawatts from the first quarter into orders, and we took on in the delta 9 gigawatt. So there is a delta of 1 gigawatt. So it's really like a rolling machine at the moment. I see this continuing also in a good pricing environment. There has been pricing improvement or margin expansion between last quarter and this quarter. And in that regard, all very positive as we look on it, and we see this continuing in terms of the appetite to discuss agreements, also broader agreements, which obviously then always cover multiple trains of gas turbines. In terms of customer composition, it's still a mixed picture, as I always said. I mean, we are talking to utilities, classical energy companies, investors, technology companies, it's still mixed. It's also mixed if it comes to the reservation agreements. And so I would not yet see a particular pattern, but obviously, still a very high appetite and turnaround on these different reservation agreements. If I look on it and also for the next years to come, '26, '27, '28, obviously, you see that the slots we have opened are all backed up by a good bunch of reservation agreements each. And this is obviously the interesting piece. So it's revolving pattern what we are seeing.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Alex. ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 8๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๋ธํƒ€๋กœ 9๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ธํƒ€๋Š” 1๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ •๋ง ๊ตด๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์ฃ . ์ข‹์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ๋ฆ„์ด ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ๊ฐœ์„ ์ด๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ™•๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ณ„์•ฝ ๋…ผ์˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ๋„ ์ง€์†๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๋” ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๋„ ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•œ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ€์˜ ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋กœ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ˜ผ์žฌ๋œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค, ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค, ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค, ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ˜ผ์žฌ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ํ˜ผ์žฌ๋œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ง ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ํŒจํ„ด์„ ๋ณด์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ๊ณผ ํšŒ์ „์œจ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•ž์œผ๋กœ 26๋…„, 27๋…„, 28๋…„์„ ๋‚ด๋‹ค๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉํ•œ ์Šฌ๋กฏ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค๋กœ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ˆœํ™˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํŒจํ„ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thanks, Christian. Thanks, Alex. Next question goes to Max Yates at Morgan Stanley.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Christian. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Alex. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Morgan Stanley์˜ Max Yates๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Max Yates: I just wanted to dig in a little bit on the aftermarket growth that you're seeing in Gas Services. Because that -- I mean, that to me is probably the biggest step change or one of the biggest step changes we've seen now growing kind of over 20% in terms of sales. Could you just give us kind of in whatever way you think is best, some detail around kind of what's driving that? And I guess the reason for asking what I'd really like to understand is maybe how much of that is pricing versus volume? And because that number is also well above. I know we're now seeing load growth increasing and electricity demand growth is now kind of 2%, 3% depending on the region. But these growth rates are much, much faster. So just really any color of how we kind of square those kind of 20% growth rates with the sort of volume growth and load growth that we're seeing in the market?**Max Yates:** ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์• ํ”„ํ„ฐ๋งˆ์ผ“ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์ด 20% ์ด์ƒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ณ€ํ™” ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ด๋„๋Š” ์š”์ธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ƒ์Šน์— ์˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์— ์˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ถ€ํ•˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ „๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์š” ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ๋„ ์ง€์—ญ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ 2~3% ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์†๋„๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ์šด์†ก๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, 20% ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Yes. Thanks, Max, for the question. Always keep in mind, this is now the half year picture. And over the second half, it might change a bit. But fundamentally, aftermarket growth is also driven by a good utilization. We see that across the regions. That's strong. And that helps, obviously, in that regard, obviously, it's more volume than pricing, how we look on it. And as I always also said in comparison, if you look on the backlog margin, this has been much more driven by the New Unit margin improvement than by the Service margin improvements. Keep one thing in mind, if you look on the Gas Services side, this includes also on the aftermarket or service side elements like the nuclear service agreements, the big turnarounds. As you know, we -- I think total installed fleet around 80 gigs or so. And then, obviously, if you do a relife of that, that also contributes to the aftermarket growth. And this was, for example, in this quarter, a strong one.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ๋งฅ์Šค, ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์…”์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์• ํ”„ํ„ฐ๋งˆ์ผ“ ์„ฑ์žฅ์€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฐ€๋™๋ฅ ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ํ™•์ธ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ๋” ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ํ•œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ์˜ํ•ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์‹ค ์ ์€ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์• ํ”„ํ„ฐ๋งˆ์ผ“์ด๋‚˜ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ์›์ž๋ ฅ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๊ณ„์•ฝ, ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ •๋น„์ž‘์—…(turnaround) ๊ฐ™์€ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ ์ „์ฒด ์„ค์น˜๋œ ํ”Œ๋ฆฌํŠธ(fleet)๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ 80๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์žฌ์ƒ(relife) ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด ์• ํ”„ํ„ฐ๋งˆ์ผ“ ์„ฑ์žฅ์—๋„ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thank you, Christian. Next question goes to Sebastian Growe, BNP Paribas.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Christian. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ BNP ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ”์˜ Sebastian Growe๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Sebastian Growe: I would also like to ask around pricing, and I'd like to discuss the dynamics here and then [indiscernible] on developers' decision to cancel offshore wind from yesterday, and they made specific reference to value over volume. So the question that I'm having on the higher level is simply what you see in the overall discussions with customers. So are we seeing a situation where it's getting more difficult to push through pricing? And if you could also help us probably with just a bit of a quantification and how much the order backlog pricing has changed? I think you provided some ranges across the segments with the quarter 4 release, so around 1 to 3 percentage points higher. How has this changed since?**Sebastian Growe:** ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ์˜ ์—ญํ•™๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด์ œ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์ทจ์†Œํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋…ผ์˜์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ด€์ฒ ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ž”๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜ํ™”๋„ ์ข€ ๋„์™€์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ๊ฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋ณ„๋กœ 1~3ํผ์„ผํŠธํฌ์ธํŠธ ๋†’๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฒ”์œ„๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•ด์ฃผ์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Christian Bruch: Yes. Thanks, Sebastian. And obviously, we have seen the pricing momentum in '25 is, let's say, less pronounced than in '24. I mean very clearly, there has been a substantial uplift in '24, and this is what we also shared with you in the quarterly result and showed you the development, but the pricings are still improving. We do see, obviously, projects getting prolonged some time in the discussions, which obviously shows also that it's getting difficult in terms of the overall project investment decision. So I would expect this to taper off to a certain extent. We always said this. And this is why we continue to work also now on, obviously, cost-out measures, making sure that we remain competitive. Obviously, the general net pricing in GS remains on a high level, GT as well, but somewhat stabilizing is what you see. We see continued improvement if I look on compression in the TI side and onshore and offshore and wind, I see rather stabilizing. And what you have seen because you're referring to yesterday's news, I think it's less driven by price increases on the offshore turbine side, but the general infrastructure, which is around it. That is obviously in the wind offshore market, something that needs to be watched. But fundamentally, still a positive pricing development, but less pronounced than in '24.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Sebastian. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ 25๋…„๋„ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์ด 24๋…„๋„์— ๋น„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ์•ฝํ™”๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 24๋…„๋„์—๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ƒ์Šน์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์‹ค์ ์—์„œ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ถ”์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์€ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ๋…ผ์˜ ๊ณผ์ •์ด ์—ฐ์žฅ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋“ค์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ํˆฌ์ž ๊ฒฐ์ •์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์™„ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ GS์˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ˆ˜์ค€์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋†’์€ ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , GT๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์•ˆ์ •ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TI ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์••์ถ•๊ธฐ์™€ ์œก์ƒ ๋ฐ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ’๋ ฅ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ์•ˆ์ •ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ œ ๋‰ด์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์ž์ฒด์˜ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ฃผ์‹œํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‚˜, 24๋…„๋งŒํผ ๋šœ๋ ทํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thank you, Christian. So the next 3 questions go to Gael de-Bray, Ben Uglow and Akash Gupta.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Christian. ๋‹ค์Œ 3๊ฐœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Gael de-Bray, Ben Uglow, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Akash Gupta์—๊ฒŒ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gael de-Bray: Actually, I had a couple of questions, but let me stick to just one and maybe get back to you at the end. The question I have is on the tax development. It seems you've started to use some of the tax loss carryforward at Gamesa this quarter, and this led to lower-than-expected taxes. I was wondering what's the potential here? I mean what's the amount of tax loss carryforward that can still be used?**Gael de-Bray:** ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์„ธ๊ธˆ ๊ด€๋ จ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ด์›”๊ฒฐ์†๊ธˆ(tax loss carryforward)์„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ , ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์€ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์•„์ง ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์›”๊ฒฐ์†๊ธˆ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€์š”?
Maria Ferraro: Gael, I'll take that question, Christian. Thank you. I hope you're doing well. And thanks for the question on that. I'm glad that you noticed that our tax -- let's say, the tax line is moving well into the goal that we had for ourselves of 25% to 30%. But you're fully right. So your assumption is correct. So this is something that we've been working on. As you know, in the past, we were not able to benefit from the losses that are incurred by Siemens Gamesa in all countries. This has changed in this quarter. So to your point, there's a bit of a catch-up effect that you see in this quarter, specifically in that matter. But we would like to see -- perhaps it won't be like this every quarter, but we are moving towards, again, our target effective tax rate range of the 25% to 30%. This is our goal.**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ฐ€์—˜, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์„ธ๊ธˆ ๋ผ์ธ์ด 25%์—์„œ 30%๋ผ๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ ๋ฒ”์œ„๋กœ ์ž˜ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒŒ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…ํ•ด์˜จ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์‹œํ‚จ ์†์‹ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํŠนํžˆ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ธฐ ํšจ๊ณผ(catch-up effect)๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ - ์•„๋งˆ ๋งค ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ด๋ ‡์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ €ํฌ ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์œ ํšจ์„ธ์œจ(effective tax rate) ๋ฒ”์œ„์ธ 25%์—์„œ 30%๋กœ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gael de-Bray: Any specific amount you would like to share in terms of the total tax loss carryforward you have recognized so far and maybe not yet recognized?**Gael de-Bray:** ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ธ์‹ํ•œ ์ด ์„ธ๋ฌด์ƒ ์ด์›”๊ฒฐ์†๊ธˆ๊ณผ ์•„์ง ์ธ์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Maria Ferraro: So I mean, as you can imagine, based on the past few years, the tax loss carryforwards are quite substantial. They vary by country, as you could also imagine in countries like Spain and Denmark and the U.S. So what we're looking at this year is, let's say, a low triple-digit amount in a specific country. Other countries are a little bit more difficult, Gael, but we're -- rest assured, we're looking at that and trying to do everything possible to see if we can further utilize. We will not be able to utilize to the extent of the amount that we have available. But we're looking at that step-wise. And like I said, for now, it's a low triple digit.**Maria Ferraro:** ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์„ธ๋ฌด์ƒ ์ด์›”๊ฒฐ์†๊ธˆ(tax loss carryforwards)์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ, ๋ด๋งˆํฌ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋“ฑ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ณ„๋กœ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ํŠน์ • ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚ฎ์€ 3์ž๋ฆฌ ์ˆ˜ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํ™œ์šฉ ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ์„ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์•ˆ์‹ฌํ•˜์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋‚ฎ์€ 3์ž๋ฆฌ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thanks, Maria. So next question goes to Ben Uglow.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Maria. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Ben Uglow์—๊ฒŒ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Ben Uglow: I guess what I'm trying to think about is the sort of medium term, the 5-year margin progression. And obviously, we're all reading fabulous data points about pricing and market conditions, et cetera. And really, what I'm trying to think about is the 21 gigawatts of reservations versus the 29 gigawatts of backlog. And I don't know the right way to think about it. But if I look at where your margins were for Gas Services in '24, we were about 10%. And as far as I can see on a year-over-year basis in the first half, we're tracking ballpark, let's say, 2 to 3 percentage points higher. Is there any reason why the progression of the margins shouldn't just be somewhat linear? And the reason why I say that is, in the past, we've definitely seen high teens and even 20% margins in this business. So should I basically draw a straight line bottom left to top right, and build in 2 to 3 percentage points per annum? Or if not, how should we all think about it?**Ben Uglow:** ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ, 5๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ ๋“ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ํฌ์ธํŠธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ 21๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ๋Œ€๋น„ 29๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 24๋…„ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์•ฝ 10% ์ •๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋žต 2~3ํผ์„ผํŠธ ํฌ์ธํŠธ ์ •๋„ ๋†’๊ฒŒ ์ถ”์ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง„์˜ ์ง„ํ–‰์ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์„ ํ˜•์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š”, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ 10%๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด 20% ๋งˆ์ง„๋„ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์™ผ์ชฝ ํ•˜๋‹จ์—์„œ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ ์ƒ๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ ์ง์„ ์„ ๊ทธ์–ด์„œ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ 2~3%ํฌ์ธํŠธ์”ฉ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
Christian Bruch: I'm thinking about your straight line on how to best express. Ben, good to hear you. Obviously, I think your fundamental logic in terms of the margin improvement is not wrong, right? So obviously, there will be a progression in there. What you always have to keep in mind, there are some puts and takes always, and this might come or not come in the next year. So that gives some volatility around this margin expansion. But fundamentally, obviously, there is, let's say, nice margin pocket in the backlog to bring to the bottom line. As you know, we also look on it carefully seeing the boundary conditions, which we believe we have all anticipated as we know today. But this is also why we said we're going to give the midterm outlook only after the summer when certain things have more clarified. But fundamentally, logic not wrong, and we are very comfortably positioned with the backlog. Maria anything from your side?**Christian Bruch:** ๋ฒค, ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๋…ผ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ‹€๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„์ „์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์š”์ธ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๋…„์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ™•๋Œ€ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์—ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ตœ์ข… ์ˆ˜์ต์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ๋„ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ ์กฐ๊ฑด๋“ค์„ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ดํ›„์—์•ผ ์ค‘๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋•Œ์ฏค์ด๋ฉด ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌ์•ˆ๋“ค์ด ๋” ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋…ผ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ‹€๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ(backlog)๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ธ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„, ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Maria Ferraro: No, absolutely. I would just underpin what Christian just said. And I think we also showed it in Q4, right, where we show that all of the businesses continue to show year-on-year development. And certainly, in Gas Services, with the momentum we see, your assumption is not wrong that the orders that are being booked today continue to show that positive development. Now Ben, I know you've said this a few times, can we get back to what we've seen how many years ago was that, the upper teens. I think this is still stepwise given the boundary conditions as Christian just mentioned.**Maria Ferraro:** ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ์ด ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋„ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค(Gas Services) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฒค์˜ ๊ฐ€์ •์ด ํ‹€๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒค, ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ๋ดค๋˜ 10%๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ์ด ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ ์กฐ๊ฑด๋“ค์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thank you. And the next question goes to Akash Gupta.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์•„์นด์‹œ ๊ตฝํƒ€๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Akash Gupta: My question is also on the gas. At full year results, you presented your market outlook that you were expecting 70 gigawatt of market with some upside from data centers. If you look at in last couple of quarters, I think gas turbine orders have been on the higher end of what people were expecting. And when we look at these framework agreements, clearly, that also provide a visibility on the future as well. So my question is that, has there been any change in your assessment of how strong this market can be? And then the question that is linked with that is, is there any need for further capacity increase? I mean, today, you announced you're raising capacity for medium-sized turbines, but maybe for large gas turbines, what's your latest thinking on potential capacity increases given how strong is the demand that we are seeing today?**Akash Gupta:** ๊ฐ€์Šค ํ„ฐ๋นˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์‹œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์˜ ์ƒ์Šน ์š”์ธ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ 70๊ธฐ๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „๋ง์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์›Œํฌ ๊ณ„์•ฝ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ๋„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€, ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ํ‰๊ฐ€์— ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์™€ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€, ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ์„ค์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ์—ฌ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ค‘ํ˜• ํ„ฐ๋นˆ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ์ž ์žฌ์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ์„ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ตœ์‹  ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค์ง€์š”?
Christian Bruch: Yes. Thank you, Akash. And I would say, obviously, we see it continuing on this elevated level, but I also would not, let's say, go so much higher than this in terms of expectations. Obviously, the wildcard is a bit the data centers in it. So fundamentally, good market for the years to come on an elevated level. On the capacity expansions, as you know, we have this roughly, roughly 30% expansion. We try to prepone certain things and make sure that we also get it into the market. And as I said, we also decided on the midsize now to also use the spare capacity we have in the existing infrastructure really to increase the capacity. What we will not do, and I said it before, I don't see -- I see us pushing all the existing sites that we have, including the blades and vanes, right, in terms of investing. But I would not see us building a greenfield new facility, that's not on our list at the moment. But everything else, what we can do on the gas turbines, we are doing. And this is what gives us a good expansion whether it's at the end, 30%, 35% or whatever will depend also on the frame composition, never forget this. But as I said, the message I wanted to lend today was really also the expansion on the midsized gas turbines.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Akash. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ด๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋†’๊ฒŒ ์žก์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋Œ€๋žต 30% ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํŠน์ • ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์•ž๋‹น๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹œ์žฅ์— ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์ค‘ํ˜• ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๊ธฐ์กด ์ธํ”„๋ผ์˜ ์—ฌ์œ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „์—๋„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ๋ธ”๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์™€ ๋ฒ ์ธ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ ๊ธฐ์กด์— ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ํˆฌ์ž ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐํ•„๋“œ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์‹œ์„ค์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ„ํš์— ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์™ธ์— ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์—์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ํ™•์žฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ตœ์ข…์ ์œผ๋กœ 30%๊ฐ€ ๋ ์ง€ 35%๊ฐ€ ๋ ์ง€๋Š” ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์—๋„ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋Š” ์ค‘ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์˜ ํ™•์žฅ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Thank you, Christian. So the next 3 questions go to Ajay Patel, Will Mackie and Gael de-Bray has a second question. So Ajay, over to you.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Christian. ๋‹ค์Œ 3๊ฐœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Ajay Patel, Will Mackie, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Gael de-Bray์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ˆœ์„œ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ Ajay๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Ajay Patel: Congratulations on the results. I guess my question is just on capacity. It seems like if you look at the gas turbine business, the demand there is sort of broadening out and the smaller side of the turbines are getting increasing traction. So I'm trying to understand is what spare capacity do you have as I'm trying to understand how these orders translate to revenue? Because if your '28 largely full for the larger-scale gas turbines and really it's '29 and '30 game, how does that sort of midrange feature? Is there a lot of capacity that we can still work into? And therefore, we could expect stronger revenue outlooks in '26, '27 or anything further down the line?**Ajay Patel:** ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ํ™•์‚ฐ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์†Œํ˜• ํ„ฐ๋นˆ๋“ค์ด ์ ์  ๋” ์ฃผ๋ชฉ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ์œ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งค์ถœ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งŒ์•ฝ 2028๋…„์ด ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํฌํ™”์ƒํƒœ์ด๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 2029๋…„๊ณผ 2030๋…„์ด ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋ฉด, ์ค‘ํ˜•๊ธ‰์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„์ง ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 2026๋…„, 2027๋…„ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์— ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ ์ „๋ง์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Christian Bruch: Yes. No, thank you very much for the question. And first of all, what I'm really pleased with is that we were able to leverage our portfolio from 15 to 500 megawatts on the turbine side. So really, the whole breadth of the portfolio. And that's a good one, right? And that's very helpful. If you look forward, we always said we are, let's say, largely sold out in -- up to the '27 and then into '28, that means that also there are open slots in '26 and '27 with reservation agreements behind it. And these will always be the key questions. Are they all converting? Are they not converting? So there are slots which could come -- become free. However, you also have to see that the slots are covered by more than one, let's say, project at the same time, which could potentially realize. But I would say '27, largely sold out, '28 more slots available, but really then you look already quickly into '29, particularly for the large gas turbine side.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ„ฐ๋นˆ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ 15๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 500๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ „์ฒด ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์˜ ์ „ ์˜์—ญ์„ ๋‹ค ํ™œ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋กœ 27๋…„๊นŒ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  28๋…„๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋งค์ง„ ์ƒํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” 26๋…„๊ณผ 27๋…„์— ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์ด ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจ๋œ ์—ฌ์œ  ์Šฌ๋กฏ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ „ํ™˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€? ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€? ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์—ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์Šฌ๋กฏ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์Šฌ๋กฏ๋“ค์ด ๋™์‹œ์— ์‹คํ˜„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋กœ ์ปค๋ฒ„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๋„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 27๋…„์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋งค์ง„๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , 28๋…„์—๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์Šฌ๋กฏ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 29๋…„์„ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์‚ดํŽด๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฐ€์Šคํ„ฐ๋นˆ ์ชฝ์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
Michael Hagmann: Next question goes to Will Mackie.**Michael Hagmann:** I notice that the content you've provided only contains "Next question goes to Will Mackie." which appears to be a moderator's transition statement rather than management response content that needs translation.

Could you please provide the actual management response or Q&A content that you'd like me to translate into Korean? I'm ready to translate the substantive financial discussion once you share it.
William Mackie: I would like to ask about Grid Technologies, please. I mean you're sitting with now EUR 38 billion record backlog. Margins and selectivity have improved. Your guidance for the year is now above your midterm targets for profitability in Grid Technologies. I understand there can be mix effects between solutions and products. But maybe can you walk us through where you are on the capacity expansion program? How you see the margin evolving? Is there any reason why the margin should go down from here due to mix effects or some other things that we can't see underlying from the 16.4%? And how is the progress towards reaching the full targeted capacity for the business?**William Mackie:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ 380์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ(backlog)๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ณ , ๋งˆ์ง„๊ณผ ์„ ๋ณ„์„ฑ์ด ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์˜ ์ค‘๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜๊ณผ ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฏน์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•์žฅ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์–ด๋А ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

๋งˆ์ง„์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ 16.4%์—์„œ ๋ฏน์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์š”์ธ๋“ค๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ํ•˜๋ฝํ•  ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์–ด๋–ค์ง€๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Yes. Thank you very much for the question. And as you know, we are expanding capacity on transformer side as well as on the switchgear side and also expanding capacity on everything which is related to syncons, which has been also in the last quarters, a more demanded product. And expansions of the factories is going well. We have Austria, we have Germany, we have China, we have India, we have the U.S., obviously, as an expansion ongoing on the transformer side. This is as planned, I would say. We are looking here and there, obviously, also what else we can do to further increase productivity or output on existing sites. This is not always a new factory. This is a new machine, a new test. And on the transformer side, you're very often limited by your test bench at the end to make sure that you unlock that. And also on the switchgear side, we have expanded investments into Saudi Arabia and Mexico, so that is continuing. And in that regard, I think we are well set up to digest that backlog, but we are also very respectful for doing this in terms of going forward. There was the second half of the question, which I know. I do not see fundamentally a change on the margin line. What you have to keep in mind, and you mentioned it, you have a bigger effect of the solutions business now coming in, and this is by definition volatile because it's really then when exactly you now complete a certain milestone in the project. So you could see volatility across the quarter. But fundamentally, I'm not seeing this in the terms of this improvement towards the midterm pieces they are changing.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ณ€์••๊ธฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ฐœํ์žฅ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋“ค์— ๋”์šฑ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ์ธ ๋™๊ธฐ์กฐ์ƒ๊ธฐ(syncons) ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต์žฅ ํ™•์žฅ์€ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ€์••๊ธฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์˜ค์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ์•„, ๋…์ผ, ์ค‘๊ตญ, ์ธ๋„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋„ ํ™•์žฅ์ด ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ„ํš๋Œ€๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ์‚ฌ์—…์žฅ์—์„œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋”์šฑ ๋Š˜๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋“ค๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ €๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์„ค๋น„๋ฅผ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ€์••๊ธฐ ์ชฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฒค์น˜์—์„œ ์ œ์•ฝ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฐœํ์žฅ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฐ๋””์•„๋ผ๋น„์•„์™€ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์†Œํ™”ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์ด๋ฅผ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๋งˆ์ง„ ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์…”์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ๋” ์ปค์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์—์„œ ํŠน์ • ๋งˆ์ผ์Šคํ†ค์„ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์–ธ์ œ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ์ค‘๊ธฐ์  ๊ฐœ์„  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: We've got a follow-up question from Gael de-Bray.**Michael Hagmann:** I notice you've provided the setup for a follow-up question from Gael de-Bray, but the actual question or management response content to translate isn't included. Could you please provide the specific management response or question content that you'd like me to translate into Korean?
Gael de-Bray: Yes. Thanks very much for the follow-up, which is about tariffs. I know that the net effect is expected to be up to high double digit in the second half. But I'm trying to think about the gross impact now. So any color, any granularity you could provide on the breakdown of your purchasing volumes in the U.S.? I mean, how much come from overseas? How much specifically from China, Mexico, Europe? And then if I may, also, I'd be interested to hear about which division do you see has potentially been most impacted by the tariffs?**Gael de-Bray:** ๋„ค, ๊ด€์„ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆœ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋†’์€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ด ์˜ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ๊ตฌ๋งค ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ๋ถ„์„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ •๋ณด๋“ , ์–ด๋–ค ์„ธ๋ถ€์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด๋“  ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š”์ง€, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘๊ตญ, ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”, ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๊ด€์„ธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Yes. Obviously, this is really a moving picture. I always have to say, and I'm a little bit careful to nail certain things down as long as so many things are changing. But if I look on today's picture, let me take your last point first. It is for the impact in 2025, relatively evenly distributed. There's not one sticking out and completely different. Obviously, it depends on the size of the business, but it is up to double-digit million euro impact. It's relatively well distributed over all business lines. If you look on it in terms of our volume, roughly, if you take last year, it has been around EUR 2.5 billion-ish in terms of procurement volume in the U.S., what we saw from the outside, roughly 5% of that is only China. And this is what you have to see and the rest could be either NAFTA, could be Europe, where it comes from. And our current assumption, what we do in the tariff impact is obviously based on that and assuming what is announced today. But then we have to see on how the things work out. We continue to work on localizing more, but this will also not impact in the quarter. But this is the base from which we're working on at the moment.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ™•์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋จผ์ € ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ๋น„๊ต์  ๊ณ ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„์‚ฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๋‘๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ทœ๋ชจ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋น„๊ต์  ๊ณ ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„์‚ฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ณผ๋ฅจ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋Œ€๋žต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ ๋ณผ๋ฅจ์ด ์•ฝ 25์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ •๋„์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ณธ ๋ฐ”๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์ค‘์€ ๋Œ€๋žต 5% ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด์…”์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€๋Š” NAFTA๋“  ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์ด๋“  ์–ด๋””์„œ ์˜ค๋Š”์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์ •์€ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ „์ œ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ „๊ฐœ๋ ์ง€๋Š” ์ง€์ผœ๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ํ˜„์ง€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ ์—ญ์‹œ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ค€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Right. There seem to be quite a number of second questions now, but Vivek hadn't asked the first question. So next question goes to Vivek and then Alex Virgo and Akash Gupta have a second question.**Michael Hagmann:** ๋„ค, ์ด์ œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, Vivek์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์•„์ง ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Vivek์ด ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์— Alex Virgo์™€ Akash Gupta๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Vivek Midha: My question is also on grid. Just looking at the strong underlying improvements in grid margins, over 600 basis points over the space of 2 quarters in what is, to a large extent, a longer cycle business. So we understand the drivers that you've highlighted. But could you maybe quantify how much of those was coming from each one, so the cost degression effect, pricing and so on. And within the pricing, should we think of that as coming from the longest cycle pricing within solutions, i.e., has there been any changes on the shorter cycle pricing?**Vivek Midha:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ดํด ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์ž„์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ๋งˆ์ง„์ด 600๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šค ํฌ์ธํŠธ ์ด์ƒ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹  ๋™์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๋ฅผ ์ •๋Ÿ‰ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ฆ‰, ๋น„์šฉ ๊ฐ์†Œ ํšจ๊ณผ, ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ • ๋“ฑ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ • ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ๋‚ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ธด ์‚ฌ์ดํด์˜ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด, ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ดํด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ •์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Maria Ferraro: Thank you for that. Let me further perhaps provide some granularity. Look, I think though, again, the onetime topic of EUR 100 million did impact Grid Technologies. If you look at it without that, more or less, we're at the 16% mark. Of course, this is in line with at the top end of the new range of the 14% to 16%. Don't forget the first quarter was 12.5%. It kind of shows that this is progressing, if you'd like. But as just mentioned by Christian, it also does depend on when the revenue flow from the various solution orders, large orders comes in on a quarterly basis. Are we going back to the single-digit margin from before? No, that's not even reflected in the range for our margin. But I would just want to caution that we're not seeing each quarter at the 16 or higher percent. Hence, why we've put the range of the 14% to 16% for Grid Technologies. And if you look at the factors, one clear factor is the degression effect or the ability, as Christian mentioned, we're looking at capacity expansions. We're looking at how we do things smarter within the facilities we have. And I have to commend the Grid Technologies team. They've done an outstanding job of having that kind of revenue and essentially pushing that through their manufacturing network with not increasing costs exponentially. And again, looking at the mix, we have in Grid Technologies, we have what they call product. That's more short cycle in nature, that's also churning through. But when you look at the large solutions, HVDC, for example, we also indicated that the step-up improvements or improvements will continue towards the end of the decade. So maybe those are the different categories, if you can put your mind around it. But again, we feel confident of the 14% to 16% margin range that we've put in for GT.**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋žต 16% ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฒ”์œ„์ธ 14%์—์„œ 16%์˜ ์ƒ๋‹จ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ 12.5%์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์ด๋Š” ์ง„์ „์ด ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ์ด ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ, ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ ์œ ์ž…์ด ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ์–ธ์ œ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „์˜ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€? ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋งˆ์ง„ ๋ฒ”์œ„์—๋„ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ๋งค ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋งˆ๋‹ค 16% ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋ง์•„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค(Grid Technologies)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด 14%์—์„œ 16% ๋ฒ”์œ„๋ฅผ ์„ค์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์ธ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์š”์ธ์€ ๋””๊ทธ๋ ˆ์…˜ ํšจ๊ณผ(degression effect) ๋˜๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฒœ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ํ™•์žฅ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ์‹œ์„ค ๋‚ด์—์„œ ๋” ์Šค๋งˆํŠธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค ํŒ€์„ ์นญ์ฐฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธ‰์ˆ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์ œ์กฐ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ํƒ์›”ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฏน์Šค๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€์Šค์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋” ์งง์€ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ญ์‹œ ์ˆœํ™˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ HVDC์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์  ๊ฐœ์„ ์ด๋‚˜ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์ด ์ด 10๋…„ ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์„ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ํ•ด์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, GT ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค์ •ํ•œ 14%์—์„œ 16% ๋งˆ์ง„ ๋ฒ”์œ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Okay. Let's hope for short questions and short answers, as I hand the next question to Alex Virgo. Alex, please.**Michael Hagmann:** ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งง์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์งง์€ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ Alex Virgo์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Alex, ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Alexander Stuart Virgo: Well, I'm not sure I'll keep within that. It's a Gamesa question. I wondered if you could just dig into a little bit of the moving parts in here, Maria. Can you give us a sense of the magnitude of these one-offs or the tailwinds? Just give us an understanding of what we might be thinking about on an underlying basis. And I wondered within that, if you could talk about the evolution of the offshore business because obviously, that sort of growth is very, very good. It's profitable. So I wondered if you could give us a sense of how we should be thinking about how that evolves through the balance of the year and into next.**Alexander Stuart Virgo:** ์Œ, ๊ทธ ๋ฒ”์œ„ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„ค์š”. ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์›€์ง์ด๋Š” ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์ˆœํ’ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐ์ค€์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ .

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ํ•ด์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๋ฐœ์ „ ๊ณผ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์€ ๋งค์šฐ, ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ๋„ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋‚จ์€ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋‚ด๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maria Ferraro: No, happy to do so. I think -- I mean, maybe to look at the moving parts, just to give a bit of an underlying basis, we've clearly indicated that the first half of fiscal year '25 is far stronger than expected. And all of the factors that are included in that are ones that we see each and every year, like the service business. So we've seen a very high utilization, as Christian mentioned, and thereby have experienced a very strong service season. If you look at the operational excellence of each of the businesses, and that goes to GS, GT, and TI. I mean, we've done a lot of work in the past to ensure that we're able to put productivity at the front end, if you'd like, and ensure that we have operational excellence, and that is also showing up in its underlying margin. And of course, it has to do with the backlog margin. I showed that if you can recall back in Q4, I showed the progression of some of the notches up in margin that we're seeing, the 6% at GT, the 3% at both GS and TI. That continues as one of the parts if you'd like to fuel the underlying margin being higher in this fiscal year. So I think that's -- those are the moving parts. And don't forget, we also have seen and I also -- not only with GT, I also mentioned that for Siemens Gamesa, we've had in project business, we have onetime topics, both puts and takes or positives and negatives. And in this particular for the first half year, we've seen some positives in that regard. But again, we stick to the revised margin ranges, profit margin ranges by business. Christian?**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ€๋™ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฐํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ํฌํ•จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”์ธ๋“ค์€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‚ฌ์—…๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งค๋…„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฒœ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์€ ๊ฐ€๋™๋ฅ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , ์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์‹œ์ฆŒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์˜ ์šด์˜ ์šฐ์ˆ˜์„ฑ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, GS, GT, TI ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•ด๋‹น๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ์ตœ์šฐ์„ ์— ๋‘๊ณ  ์šด์˜ ์šฐ์ˆ˜์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋งŽ์€ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•ด์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ๋งˆ์ง„์—๋„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ง„๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ ธ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹œ ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์Šนํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GT์—์„œ 6%, GS์™€ TI์—์„œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ 3%์”ฉ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒ์Šน์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๊ธฐ์ € ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ์š”์ธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ ๊ณ„์† ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฃผ์š” ๋ณ€๋™ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€, GT๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์š”์ธ๊ณผ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์š”์ธ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ํŠนํžˆ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€๋ณ„๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ •๋œ ์ด์ต ๋งˆ์ง„ ๋ฒ”์œ„๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ?
Christian Bruch: Yes, just maybe because you're asking on the offshore revenue also, I mean, you have seen the big improvement now in quarter 1 to quarter 2. That's a productivity uplift in the factories and don't expect the same improvement in the next quarters quarter-on-quarter. It's roughly now stabilizing there, obviously, in terms of the revenue which we get through the factories. So it's on a good right level now, it's coming, it's working, but don't expect the same percentage improvement on the revenue side in the offshore.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ํ•ด์ƒ ๋งค์ถœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—์„œ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ ํฐ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๋ณด์…จ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ณต์žฅ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋“ค์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์–ป๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋Œ€๋žต ์•ˆ์ •ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ข‹์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•ด์ƒ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋งค์ถœ ์ธก๋ฉด์˜ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋น„์œจ ๊ฐœ์„ ์€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Right. So next question goes to Akash Gupta before the last question then goes to Will Mackie.**Michael Hagmann:** ๋„ค, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์•„์นด์‹œ ๊ตฝํƒ€๋‹˜๊ป˜ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์œŒ ๋งฅํ‚ค๋‹˜๊ป˜ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Akash Gupta: My follow-up is on Siemens Gamesa onshore orders. I mean we have seen a low level of orders in last couple of quarters. And Maria, you said in your prepared remarks that orders were impacted by temporary interruption of sales activity. So maybe if you can elaborate on that because my understanding was that you were back in the market on 4x last year and you were looking to come back on 5x as well. And it looks like your commentary is indicating you may be behind that plan that was communicated previously. So anything you can add on Siemens Gamesa onshore orders and how that will change potentially the turnaround of onshore business?**Akash Gupta:** ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ๋‚ฎ์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„, ์ค€๋น„๋œ ๋ฐœ์–ธ์—์„œ ์ผ์‹œ์ ์ธ ์˜์—…ํ™œ๋™ ์ค‘๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„์— 4x ์ œํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋ณต๊ท€ํ–ˆ๊ณ , 5x ์ œํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋ณต๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ด์ „์— ์ „๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ณ„ํš๋ณด๋‹ค ๋’ค์ฒ˜์ ธ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ํ„ด์–ด๋ผ์šด๋“œ์— ์–ด๋–ค ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Thanks, Akash. No, we are -- let's say, we are in plan, I would say, in terms of what we wanted to do. We have not signed physically an order for the 4x yet. This is why you don't see it in the books. Obviously, we would have loved to sign it 3 months earlier or so. But the plan was always have a very limited number of 4x turbines and to, let's say, make sure that we keep some work in the factories and then the 5x launch within this fiscal year. And this is all in plan at the moment. But I also always said, my main target in onshore is derisk and make sure that we manage the business going forward carefully. And so in that regard, nothing really different than we expected it.**Christian Bruch:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์•„์นด์‹œ. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„ํš๋Œ€๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›๋ž˜ ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์•„์ง 4x์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฅ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  3๊ฐœ์›” ์ •๋„ ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์›๋ž˜ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ 4x ํ„ฐ๋นˆ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜๋Ÿ‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ณต์žฅ์—์„œ ์ผ์ •ํ•œ ์ž‘์—…๋Ÿ‰์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋‚ด์— 5x๋ฅผ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณ„ํš๋Œ€๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ์œก์ƒํ’๋ ฅ์—์„œ ์ œ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maria Ferraro: Yes. And just maybe to clarify, I said the ongoing stopped sales activities. If I missed that word ongoing, that's a pretty important word, yes, exactly.**Maria Ferraro:** ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์ €๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ํŒ๋งค ์ค‘๋‹จ ํ™œ๋™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ œ๊ฐ€ '์ง€์†์ ์ธ'์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋น ๋œจ๋ ธ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Right. Last question, Will, please.**Michael Hagmann:** ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์œŒ.
William Mackie: I just want to come back to the cash flow, please. And to just ask if you can throw some more color around the key levers that drive the change in the free cash flow guide from EUR 1 billion up to around EUR 4 billion. Is that everything that we've seen largely in the first half? Or are there other key drivers that we should expect in the second?**William Mackie:** ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์œ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๊ฐ€ 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์—์„œ ์•ฝ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋œ ์ฃผ์š” ๋™์ธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฏธ ํ™•์ธ๋œ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋™์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maria Ferraro: Thanks, Will. I think, of course, the key driver for the cash flow is essentially the 3 categories I mentioned earlier. One is the order intake value. Of course, we're seeing a lot more momentum in order intake across the businesses that generally follows with advanced payments. And as Christian mentioned, also in our case now is also with reservation payments. So that's one factor. Of course, the increased profit. So again, all of the ranges by businesses have been increased, save Siemens Gamesa that also contributes, and of course, again, the underlying cash momentum, if you'd like, even in terms of how we continue to manage the balance sheet in light of some of the growth that we have, that, coupled with the factors that I mentioned is really what is driving that cash up to the around EUR 4 billion mark. Again -- and there's also some timing effects, Will, but I think those categories are the main categories.**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์œŒ. ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํ๋ฆ„์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋™๋ ฅ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ 3๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฒ”์ฃผ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๊ฐ€์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ „ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ ๊ธ‰๊ธˆ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฒœ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ˜„์žฌ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ๊ธˆ๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋ฒ”์œ„๊ฐ€ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ง€๋ฉ˜์Šค ๊ฐ€๋ฉ”์‚ฌ๋„ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์š”์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋˜์–ด ํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ ์•ฝ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ค€๊นŒ์ง€ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์œŒ, ์ผ๋ถ€ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฒ”์ฃผ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ์š” ๋ฒ”์ฃผ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Hagmann: Right. Thank you. So I hand over to Christian for some closing remarks.**Michael Hagmann:** ๋„ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ง์”€์„ ์œ„ํ•ด Christian์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Bruch: Yes. First of all, thank you very much for your time here being with us on the call. I don't want to close today's call without thanking Michael Hagmann, our fabulous Head of IR in the first 5 years of the company, but not anymore with May 1 because Michael moves to a new job in the company and really having helped us to explain the start of the company, very successfully. Thank you, Michael, for being with us in the Investor Relations, and I welcome Tobias Hang picking up from here, also very proven person in our Investor Relations department, and I look forward really for the next call to come, but I would like to thank Michael for a tremendous amount of work in the last 5 years. Great job.**Christian Bruch:** ๋„ค, ์šฐ์„  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ†ตํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๊ผญ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ 5๋…„๊ฐ„ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ IR ์ฑ…์ž„์ž๋กœ ํ™œ๋™ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  Michael Hagmann์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 5์›” 1์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ Michael์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ๋‚ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ง์ฑ…์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ IR ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Michael์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ํฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Michael, ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ์—…๋ฌด์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ด์–ด๋ฐ›์„ Tobias Hang์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Tobias ์—ญ์‹œ ์ €ํฌ ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋ถ€์„œ์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๋œ ์ธ์žฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๋‚œ 5๋…„๊ฐ„ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ฃผ์‹  Michael์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maria Ferraro: Thank you, Michael.**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Michael.
Michael Hagmann: Thank you, Maria. But also, I would also like to, of course, thank Christian and Maria for all the support that I had during that time. Obviously, I also want to thank the team, but also want to thank all of you within the analyst community because I had a great time. I really enjoyed those last 5 years. They were not always easy, but it was always rewarding. And I hope that I will stay in touch with, hopefully, all of you also in the future. So big, big thanks. You know Tobias already. You know Harald and you know Tobias Marcks. And I'm sure that they will do an even better job going forward. So of course, I think you're going to have a good time also with the team going forward. So thanks to everyone, and goodbye.**Michael Hagmann:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์ง€์›์„ ํ•ด์ค€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ์•ˆ๊ณผ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ํŒ€์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ณ„์‹  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ 5๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‰ฝ์ง€๋งŒ์€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๋ณด๋žŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ๊ณ„์† ์—ฐ๋ฝ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ† ๋น„์•„์Šค๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ์ฃ . ํ•˜๋ž„๋“œ๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ณ  ํ† ๋น„์•„์Šค ๋งˆ๋ฅดํฌ์Šค๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋”์šฑ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ํŒ€๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ, ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
Christian Bruch: Thank you. Goodbye.**Christian Bruch:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
Maria Ferraro: Thank you, Michael. Bye-bye, everyone.**Maria Ferraro:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋งˆ์ดํด. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:

โ€ข ๊ฐ€์Šค ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ์‹ค์ 
- 8GW์˜ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ํ™•์ • ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜๊ณ  9GW์˜ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ ์ ‘์ˆ˜
- ์• ํ”„ํ„ฐ๋งˆ์ผ“ ๋งค์ถœ์ด 20% ์ด์ƒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ•์„ธ ์ง€์†
- ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ/๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ฐœ์„  ์ถ”์„ธ ์ง€์†๋˜๋‚˜ 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ์Šนํญ์€ ๋‘”ํ™”

โ€ข ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€ ํ˜„ํ™ฉ
- ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ  380์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ๋ณ€์••๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ๊ฐœํ์žฅ์น˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘
- ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ  14-16% ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด ์•ˆ์ •์  ์œ ์ง€ ์ „๋ง

โ€ข 2025๋…„ ์ „๋ง ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ
- ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ํ”„๋ฆฌ์บ์‹œํ”Œ๋กœ์šฐ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค 10์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์—์„œ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ƒํ–ฅ
- ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ฆ๊ฐ€, ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ๊ฐœ์„ , ์šด์ „์ž๋ณธ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ํšจ์œจํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š” ๋™์ธ
- ์„ธ๊ธˆ ํšจ๊ณผ๋กœ ์‹คํšจ์„ธ์œจ 25-30% ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด ์œ ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ