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Wells Fargo & Company (NYSE:WFC) Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call July 15, 2025 10:00 AM ET Company Participants Charles W. Scharf - President, CEO & Director John M. Campbell - Director of Investor Relations Michael P. Santomassimo - Senior EVP & CFO Conference Call Participants Betsy Lynn Graseck - Morgan Stanley, Research Division Christopher Edward McGratty - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division Ebrahim Huseini Poonawala - BofA Securities, Research Division Erika Najarian - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Gerard Sean Cassidy - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division John Eamon McDonald - Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division John G. | ์ฐ์คํ๊ณ ์ค ์ปดํผ๋ (NYSE:WFC) 2025๋
2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ 2025๋
7์ 15์ผ ์ค์ 10:00 ET ํ์ฌ ์ฐธ์์ ์ฐฐ์ค W. ์คํ - ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ ์กด M. ์บ ๋ฒจ - ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์ด์ฌ ๋ง์ดํด P. ์ฐํ ๋ง์๋ชจ - ์์ ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฒธ CFO ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์ฐธ์์ ๋ฒ ์น ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ๋ผ์น - ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์คํ ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํผ ์๋์๋ ๋งฅ๊ทธ๋ํฐ - ํคํ, ๋ธ๋ฃจ์ํธ ์ค ์ฐ์ฆ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์๋ธ๋ผํ ํ์ธ์ด๋ ํธ๋์๋ผ - ๋ฑ ํฌ์ค๋ธ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด ์ํ๋ฆฌํฐ์ฆ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์๋ฆฌ์นด ๋์๋ฆฌ์ - UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์คํธ๋จผํธ ๋ฑ ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ ๋ผ๋ ์ ์บ์๋ - RBC ์บํผํธ ๋ง์ผ์ธ , ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์กด ์ด๋ชฌ ๋งฅ๋๋ ๋ - ํธ๋ฃจ์ด์คํธ ์ํ๋ฆฌํฐ์ฆ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์กด G. |
Pancari - Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Kenneth Michael Usdin - Bernstein Autonomous LLP Matthew Derek O'Connor - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Robert Scott Siefers - Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Operator Welcome, and thank you for joining the Wells Fargo Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. John Campbell, Director of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin the conference. John M. Campbell Thank you, Brad. Good morning, everyone. | Pancari - Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Kenneth Michael Usdin - Bernstein Autonomous LLP Matthew Derek O'Connor - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Robert Scott Siefers - Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division ์คํผ๋ ์ดํฐ ์ฐ์คํ๊ณ 2025๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. [์คํผ๋ ์ดํฐ ์๋ด์ฌํญ] ์ค๋ ํตํ๋ ๋ น์๋๊ณ ์์์ ์๋ ค๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์งํ์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ๋๋ ํฐ์ธ ์กด ์บ ๋ฒจ ์จ์๊ฒ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ํ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ์กด M. ์บ ๋ฒจ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, ๋ธ๋๋. ์๋ ํ์ธ์, ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ. |
Thank you for joining our call today where our CEO, Charlie Scharf; and our CFO, Mike Santomassimo, will discuss second quarter results and answer your questions. This call is being recorded. Before we get started, I would like to remind you that our second quarter earnings materials, including the release, financial supplement and presentation deck are available on our website at wellsfargo.com. I'd also like to caution you that we may make forward-looking statements during today's call that are subject to risks and uncertainties. | ์ค๋ ์ ํฌ ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ CEO์ธ ์ฐฐ๋ฆฌ ์คํ(Charlie Scharf)์ CFO์ธ ๋ง์ดํฌ ์ฐํ ๋ง์๋ชจ(Mike Santomassimo)๊ฐ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ ผ์ํ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ต๋ณํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ณธ ์ฝ์ ๋ น์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ํ๊ธฐ์ ์์, ์ค์ ๋ฐํ์๋ฃ, ์ฌ๋ฌด ๋ณด์ถฉ์๋ฃ, ํ๋ ์ ํ ์ด์ ์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ์ ํฌ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ด๋ จ ์๋ฃ๋ค์ด wellsfargo.com ์น์ฌ์ดํธ์์ ํ์ธ ๊ฐ๋ฅํจ์ ์๋ ค๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ค๋ ์ฝ์์ ์ํ๊ณผ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ์ ์๋ฐํ๋ ๋ฏธ๋์ ๋ง์ง์ ์ ํ ์ ์์์ ์ฃผ์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
Factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in our SEC filings, including the Form 8-K filed today containing our earnings materials. Information about any non-GAAP financial measures referenced, including a reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures, can also be found in our SEC filings and the earnings materials available on our website. I will now turn the call over to Charlie. Charles W. Scharf Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. I'll make some brief comments about our results and update you on our priorities. I'll then turn the call over to Mike to review second quarter results in more detail before we take your questions. . | ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์๊ณผ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ฅผ ์ ์๋ ์์ธ๋ค์ ์ค๋ ์ ์ถํ ์ค์ ์๋ฃ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋ Form 8-K๋ฅผ ๋น๋กฏํ์ฌ SEC ์ ์ถ ์๋ฅ์ ์์ธํ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ธ๊ธ๋ ๋นGAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด์งํ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ณด์ ํด๋น ์งํ๋ค์ GAAP ์งํ ๋๋น ์กฐ์ ๋ด์ญ์ SEC ์ ์ถ ์๋ฅ ๋ฐ ๋น์ฌ ์น์ฌ์ดํธ์์ ํ์ธํ ์ ์๋ ์ค์ ์๋ฃ์์๋ ์ฐพ์๋ณด์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ Charlie์๊ฒ ํตํ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Charles W. Scharf John, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ ํ์ธ์, ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ. ์ ๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ํด ๊ฐ๋ตํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ์ ์ฐ์ ์์์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํด๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ํ Mike์๊ฒ ํตํ๋ฅผ ๋๊ฒจ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ ์์ธํ ๊ฒํ ํด๋๋ฆฐ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Let me start with some second quarter highlights. Our second quarter results reflect the progress we're making to consistently produce stronger financial results with net income, diluted earnings per share and our return on tangible common equity, all up from both the first quarter and a year ago. We continue to invest in our businesses, which has driven higher fee-based income -- this growth was diversified with each of our business segments increasing during the first half of the year. While we've been investing, we've also continued to take a disciplined approach to expenses and we have now reduced headcount for 20 consecutive quarters, resulting in a 23% decline from 5 years ago. | 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฃผ์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ถํฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ณด๋ค ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ง์ ์ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ด์ต, ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต, ์ ํ๋ณดํต์๋ณธ์์ต๋ฅ ๋ชจ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์์๋ฃ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ค๊ฐํ๋์ด ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ์๋ฅผ ์งํํ๋ ๋์์ ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๊ท์จ์ ์ธ ์ ๊ทผ์ ์ง์ํด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ์ฌ 20๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฐ์์ผ๋ก ์ธ์์ ๊ฐ์ถํ์ฌ 5๋ ์ ๋๋น 23% ๊ฐ์ํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. |
We maintained our strong credit discipline and credit performance continued to improve in the second quarter with lower net loan charge-offs from both the year ago and the first quarter. Losses in both our consumer and commercial portfolios improved from a year ago. The big news during the quarter was having the asset cap removed. The lifting of the asset cap marks a pivotal milestone in our transformation, along with the termination of 13 orders since 2019, including 7 this year alone. We are a far stronger company today because of the work we've done. | 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ์ฉ ๊ท์จ์ ์ ์งํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋ฐ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์๋์ถ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ ๊ฐ์๋ก ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋น์ ๋ฐ ์์ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ๋ชจ๋์์ ์์ค์ด ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋ด์ค๋ ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ํด์ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ๋ 2019๋ ์ดํ 13๊ฐ ๋ช ๋ น์ ์ข ๋ฃ์ ํจ๊ป ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ณํ์ ์ค์ํ ์ด์ ํ๊ฐ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด๋ง์ผ๋ก๋ 7๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ข ๋ฃ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ํํ ์์ ๋๋ถ์ ์ค๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๊ฐํ ํ์ฌ๊ฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
In addition, we have also changed and simplified our business mix, transformed the management team and how we run the company and have been methodically investing in the company's future while improving our financial results and profile. I know this call is for investors, but I want to once again thank the over 212,000 employees at Wells Fargo who all contributed in 1 way or another to this milestone. Though we have tremendous opportunities, this has been a demanding place to work. | ๋ํ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ๊ตฌ์ฑ์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝํ๊ณ ๋จ์ํํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฝ์์ง๊ณผ ํ์ฌ ์ด์ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ณํ์์ผฐ๊ณ , ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ํ๋กํ์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ฉด์ ์ฒด๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋์ ํฌ์ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ด ํฌ์์๋ค์ ์ํ ๊ฒ์์ ์๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ์ด ์ด์ ํ ๋ฌ์ฑ์ ์ด๋ค ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ Wells Fargo์ 212,000๋ช ์ด ๋๋ ์ง์๋ค์๊ฒ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๋ง์์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ๋ ์์ฒญ๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ์์ง๋ง, ์ด๊ณณ์ ์ผํ๊ธฐ์ ๊น๋ค๋ก์ด ํ๊ฒฝ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
We have recognized the contributions of many here by increasing compensation, improving benefits, investing more -- investing in more employee learning and development programs and by giving those employees making below $85,000 in total compensation, special year-end cash awards for the past 2 years. With the lifting of the asset cap, we wanted to do something special for everyone who invested so much of themselves into the company in recent years. As a demonstration of our appreciation from what we've accomplished, we gave a special award to all employees so they could own part of Wells Fargo and hopefully benefit from our future success. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ณด์์ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ , ๋ณต๋ฆฌํ์์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ง์ ํ์ต ๋ฐ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ํ๊ณ , ์ด ๋ณด์์ด 85,000๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฏธ๋ง์ธ ์ง์๋ค์๊ฒ ์ง๋ 2๋ ๊ฐ ํน๋ณ ์ฐ๋ง ํ๊ธ ์์ฌ๊ธ์ ์ง๊ธํจ์ผ๋ก์จ ๋ง์ ์ง์๋ค์ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ์ธ์ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ์ ํจ๊ป, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ต๊ทผ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ์ ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ ํฌ์ํด์ค ๋ชจ๋ ์ง์๋ค์ ์ํด ํน๋ณํ ์กฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ทจํ๊ณ ์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฑ์ทจํ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ํ์๋ก, ๋ชจ๋ ์ง์๋ค์ด Wells Fargo์ ์ผ๋ถ๋ฅผ ์์ ํ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋ ์ฑ๊ณต์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ํํ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋๋ก ํน๋ณ ์์ฌ๊ธ์ ์ง๊ธํ์ต๋๋ค. |
So everyone has been asking what does the lifting of the asset cap mean. First, we will continue to move forward with our risk and control agenda and embed the disciplines we have built deep into the culture of the company. But we are certainly in a different position with the asset cap and the many orders lifted. It is hard to convey the amount of time and effort the senior team has devoted to this work. So much of this work -- with so much of this work completed, we can allocate our time differently and spend more time focusing on growth and the future. While we have not ignored this, the additional time we now have should prove meaningful. | ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค์ด ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ ์๋ฏธํ๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํดํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ญ๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ , ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ๋ฐ ํต์ ์์ ๋ค๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ๊ตฌ์ถํด์จ ๊ท์จ์ ํ์ฌ ๋ฌธํ ๊น์์ด ๋ด์ฌํํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์์ฐ ํ๋์ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ช ๋ น์ด ํด์ ๋ ์ํฉ์์ ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์คํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ด ์ด ์ ๋ฌด์ ์์๋ถ์ ์๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ์ ์์ ์ ๋ฌํ๊ธฐ๋ ์ด๋ ต์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๋ฌด์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์๋ฃ๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ๊ณ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๋์ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ์ง์คํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฌด์ํด์จ ๊ฒ์ ์๋์ง๋ง, ์ด์ ํ๋ณดํ ์ถ๊ฐ ์๊ฐ์ด ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค์ค ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. |
As you know, though we have generated substantial amounts of capital in the years since the asset cap was imposed, we've been limited in how much we've been able to deploy to support our customers and communities. While shareholders benefited from increased stock buybacks, we would have preferred to allocate more capital to grow our businesses and the overall balance sheet. We now have the flexibility to proactively grow deposits and to allocate capital to grow loans and our corporate and investment bank. Since I arrived, we've had to make difficult choices where to allocate our balance sheet given our inability to increase total assets. | ์์๋ค์ํผ, ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ณผ๋ ์ดํ ์๋ ๊ฐ ์๋นํ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์๋ณธ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํด์์ง๋ง, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ง์ญ์ฌํ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ฐฐ์นํ ์ ์๋ ์๋ณธ์ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ ์ ํ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ํํ์ ๋ฐ์์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๋ก์๋ ์ฌ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์ ์ฒด ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ํ๋์ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๋ณธ์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ํธํ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์๊ธ์ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์ถ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ์๋ณธ์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ ํ๋ณดํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๋ถ์ํ ์ดํ, ์ด์์ฐ์ ๋๋ฆด ์ ์๋ ์ํฉ์์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ ์ง์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ ค์ด ์ ํ์ ํด์ผ ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
As we pointed out, we have turned away deposits from corporate clients. And while we have not turned away consumer deposits, we've been careful not to aggressively grow consumer deposits given the limitations we were subject to. We've also had to be cautious about loan commitments, especially given the potential for significant drawdowns of committed facilities as we saw during the early days of COVID. We have also pointed out that we have constrained our markets-related balance sheet to allow for activity elsewhere in the company. As we look forward, we are now able to move forward more aggressively to serve consumers, businesses and communities to support U.S. economic growth. | ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์๊ธ์ ๊ฑฐ์ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋น์ ์๊ธ์ ๊ฑฐ์ ํ์ง ์์์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ์ ์ฝ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ์ฌ ์๋น์ ์๊ธ์ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ์ง ์๋๋ก ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๋์ถ ์ฝ์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ์คํ ์๋ฐ์ ์์๋๋ฐ, ํนํ ์ฝ๋ก๋19 ์ด๊ธฐ์ ๊ฒฝํํ๋ฏ์ด ์ฝ์ ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ๋์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ธ์ถ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ๋์ฑ ๊ทธ๋ฌ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ํ ํ์ฌ ๋ด ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋์ ์ํ ์ฌ์ ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์์ฅ ๊ด๋ จ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ์ ์ฝํด์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋น์, ๊ธฐ์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง์ญ์ฌํ์ ๋์ฑ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ์ฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
We expect to be more aggressive in our pursuit of consumer and corporate deposits, and we will selectively look to grow loans, though we will be cautious during periods of economic uncertainty. We also see opportunities to allocate more balance sheet to our markets business to drive increased profitability. Our goal is to increase customer trading flow and financing activity without significantly increasing our risk profile. We also have the opportunity to think more broadly about using our balance sheet as we evaluate additional opportunities. | ์๋น์ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ์๊ธ ํ๋ณด์ ๋ณด๋ค ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ค ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ์ด ์ง์๋๋ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์๋ ์ ์คํ ์ ๊ทผ์ ์ทจํ๋ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ถ ์ฆ๋๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๋ง์ผ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ์ฌ ์์ต์ฑ ์ฆ๋๋ฅผ ์ถ์งํ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ํ๋กํ์ผ์ ํฌ๊ฒ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ํค์ง ์์ผ๋ฉด์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฑฐ๋ ํ๋ก์ฐ์ ํ์ด๋ธ์ฑ ํ๋์ ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์์ธ๋ฌ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ํ๊ฐํ๋ฉด์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ํ์ฉ์ ๋ํด ๋ณด๋ค ํญ๋๊ฒ ์ฌ๊ณ ํ ๊ธฐํ๋ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
In addition to the lifting of the asset cap, we expect that changes in both the regulatory and supervisory environment will allow us to compete more effectively. We announced earlier this month that our expected stress capital buffer will decrease by 120 basis points starting in the fourth quarter, which would reduce our required CET1 regulatory minimum plus buffers back to 8.5%. We are also encouraged by the Federal Reserve's intention to provide more detail supporting the CCAR process and that detail, along with the finalization of the broader set of capital rules will help us determine the appropriate level of capital we should hold going forward. | ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ์ธ์๋, ๊ท์ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ์ ๋์ฑ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌ ์ด ๋ฐํํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ์์ ์คํธ๋ ์ค ์๋ณธ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ์ด 120bp ๊ฐ์ํ์ฌ CET1 ๊ท์ ์ต์ ์๊ตฌ์๋ณธ๊ณผ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ์ ํฉํ ์์ค์ด 8.5%๋ก ๋ค์ ๋ฎ์์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ฐ์ค์ด CCAR ํ๋ก์ธ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ๋ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ์๋๋ฅผ ๋ฐํ ์ ์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ์ธ๋ถ์ฌํญ๊ณผ ๋ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ์๋ณธ ๊ท์น์ ์ต์ข ํ์ ์ ํตํด ํฅํ ๋ณด์ ํด์ผ ํ ์ ์ ์๋ณธ ์์ค์ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
We are also very supportive of the review the different regulatory agencies are conducting regarding rules and supervisory constraints that go beyond safety and soundness and do not allow us to effectively serve our customers and communities. We are committed to continuing to maintain a strong capital position and are excited about using our excess capital and additional capital generation to reinvest in our franchise as well as continuing to return excess capital to shareholders. As a reminder, we have returned a significant amount of capital to shareholders over the past 5 years, including reducing our average common shares outstanding by 23% since 2019. | ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ํ ์์ ์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฑด์ ์ฑ์ ๋์ด์๋ ๊ท์ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ์ ์ฝ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ง์ญ์ฌํ์ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ๋ชปํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ท์ ๋ค์ ๋ํด ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท์ ๊ธฐ๊ด๋ค์ด ์ค์ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒํ ๋ฅผ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์งํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์๋ณธ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ฌ ์๋ณธ๊ณผ ์ถ๊ฐ ์๋ณธ ์ฐฝ์ถ์ ํ์ฉํ์ฌ ํ๋์ฐจ์ด์ฆ์ ์ฌํฌ์ํ๋ ๋์์ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์์ฌ ์๋ณธ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํด ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ์ ํฌ๋ ์ง๋ 5๋ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์๋นํ ๊ธ์ก์ ์๋ณธ์ ํ์ํด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2019๋ ์ดํ ํ๊ท ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๋ฐํ์ฃผ์์๋ฅผ 23% ๊ฐ์์ํจ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
As we previously announced, we expect to increase our third quarter common stock dividend by 12.5% to $0.45 per share subject to approval by the company's Board of Directors at its regularly scheduled meeting later this month. We've repurchased over $6 billion of common stock during the first half of this year, and during the second quarter, our Board of Directors authorized an additional common stock repurchase program of up to $40 billion. We continue to make significant investments in our core business, which are helping to improve our returns. We continue to invest in our credit card business, not only by launching new products, but also enhancing the overall customer experience. | ์ด์ ์ ๋ฐํํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌ ๋ง ์ ๊ธฐ ์ด์ฌํ์์ ์น์ธ์ ๋ฐ๋ ์กฐ๊ฑด์ผ๋ก 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ 12.5% ์ธ์ํ์ฌ ์ฃผ๋น 0.45๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ๋๋ฆด ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋์ 60์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์์ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ๋ฅผ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค ์ด์ฌํ๋ ์ต๋ 400์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ์น์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ํต์ฌ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ํ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ต๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋์์ด ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ํ ์ถ์๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ ํฅ์์ ํตํด ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Our commitment to delivering a seamless, secure and user-friendly digital experience to our card members was recently recognized by J.D. Power, which ranked Wells Fargo #2 in both mobile app and online credit card satisfaction. Enhancements like these has spurred new account growth and higher balances in spending from a year ago. In our auto business, we completed the launch of our multiyear co-branded agreement as a preferred purchase financing provider for Volkswagen and Audi vehicles in the U.S. We had strong auto originations in the second quarter and ending balances in our auto portfolio grew for the first time in over 3 years. | ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ์ํํ๊ณ ์์ ํ๋ฉฐ ์ฌ์ฉ์ ์นํ์ ์ธ ๋์งํธ ๊ฒฝํ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ์ ํฌ์ ์ฝ์์ ์ต๊ทผ J.D. Power๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ธ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. J.D. Power๋ ๋ชจ๋ฐ์ผ ์ฑ๊ณผ ์จ๋ผ์ธ ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ๋ง์กฑ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ Wells Fargo๋ฅผ 2์๋ก ์ ์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ข ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๋์ ์์ก ๋ฐ ์ง์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋์ฐจ ์ฌ์ ์์๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด ํญ์ค๋ฐ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์์ฐ๋ ์ฐจ๋์ ์ฐ์ ๊ตฌ๋งค ๊ธ์ต ์ ๊ณต์ ์ฒด๋ก์ ๋ค๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ฝ๋ธ๋๋ ๊ณ์ฝ ์ถ์๋ฅผ ์๋ฃํ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์๋์ฐจ ๋์ถ ์ ๊ท ์ทจ๊ธ์ด ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์๋์ฐจ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ๊ธฐ๋ง ์์ก์ด 3๋ ๋ง์ ์ฒ์์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
In Consumer, Small and Business Banking, we have continued to see momentum in the growth of primary checking accounts benefiting from our investments in marketing offers and enhancements to both the digital and branch experience. We are on track to have over half of our branch network refurbished by the end of this year and to complete a refresh of the entire network by the end of 2028. We continue to optimize and better position our network, including expanding in certain locations, including Chicago, New York City and Nashville. | ์๋น์, ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ์ํ์ ๋ฌด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ๋ง์ผํ ์คํผ์ ๋์งํธ ๋ฐ ์ง์ ๊ฒฝํ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ํฌ์ ๋๋ถ์ ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋ ๋น์ข์๊ธ ๊ณ์ข ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๊ฐ ์ง์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๋ง๊น์ง ์ง์ ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ ์ ๋ฐ ์ด์์ ๋ฆฌ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ๊ณ , 2028๋ ๋ง๊น์ง ์ ์ฒด ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ์๋ฃํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์์นด๊ณ , ๋ด์์, ๋ด์๋น ๋ฑ ํน์ ์ง์ญ์์์ ํ์ฅ์ ํฌํจํ์ฌ ๋คํธ์ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ต์ ํํ๊ณ ๋ ๋์ ํฌ์ง์ ๋์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
We continue to enhance our digital experience and consumer check accounts open digitally continue to increase and active mobile users now exceed $32 million, up 4% from a year ago. We also continue to see good momentum from Wells Fargo Premier, our offering for affluent clients. Let me highlight a few areas that demonstrate our growth. We are investing in more bankers to serve these clients and have increased branch-based financial advisers by over 10% from a year ago. | ์ ํฌ๋ ๋์งํธ ๊ฒฝํ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋์งํธ๋ก ๊ฐ์ค๋๋ ์๋น์ ๋น์ข์๊ธ ๊ณ์ข๋ ๊ณ์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฑ ๋ชจ๋ฐ์ผ ์ฌ์ฉ์๋ ํ์ฌ 3,200๋ง ๋ช ์ ๋์ด์๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๋ถ์ ์ธต ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ ์ํ์ธ Wells Fargo Premier์์๋ ์ข์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ญ์ ๊ฐ์กฐํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ฑ ์ปค์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ๊ธ์ต ์ด๋๋ฐ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 10% ์ด์ ์ฆ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
The improved collaboration between our bankers and advisers has helped to drive over $16 billion of net asset flows into the Wealth and Investment Management Premier channel during the first half of the year, up over 60% from a year ago. Deposit and investment balances from premier clients have also been steadily increasing and were up approximately 10% from a year ago. Turning to our commercial businesses. The investments we have been making in corporate and investment banking have continued to help drive growth with investment banking fees up 16% during the first half of the year. We've also made steady progress increasing our U.S. | ์ ํฌ ์ํ์๊ณผ ์ด๋๋ฐ์ด์ ๊ฐ์ ํฅ์๋ ํ์ ์ ์ฌํด ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ฐ์ค ์ค ์ธ๋ฒ ์คํธ๋จผํธ ๋งค๋์ง๋จผํธ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ด ์ฑ๋๋ก 160์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์์ ์์์ฐ ์ ์ ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 60% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์๊ธ ๋ฐ ํฌ์ ์๊ณ ๋ํ ๊พธ์คํ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฝ 10% ์์นํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ์์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ ๋๋ ค๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํด์จ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ํฌ์์ํ ์์๋ฃ๊ฐ 16% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด์์ ๊พธ์คํ ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Investment Banking market share with our share up each of the last 2 years and again in the first half of 2025 driven by gains in leveraged finance and M&A. We're continuing to invest in top talent and strengthen and expand our commercial banking business. For example, in our Technology Banking Group, we have grown our team of bankers by over 25% over the past year. We expect to continue to add bankers to this priority sector and in a number of additional markets and sectors where we have room to grow. In addition to driving growth in our core business, our strategy also includes simplifying our businesses and focusing on the products and services that matter most to our clients. | ํฌ์์ํ ์์ฅ์ ์ ์จ์ ์ง๋ 2๋ ์ฐ์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2025๋ ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ํ์ด๋ธ์ค์ M&A ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ํ์ ์ด ๋ค์ ์์นํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ธ์ฌ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ ์ํ ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฐํํ๊ณ ํ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ํ ํฌ๋๋ก์ง ๋ฑ ํน ๊ทธ๋ฃน์์๋ ์ง๋ 1๋ ๊ฐ ๋ฑ ์ปค ํ์ 25% ์ด์ ํ๋ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฐ์ ์์ ์นํฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ฌ์ง๊ฐ ์๋ ๋ค์์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์์ฅ ๋ฐ ์นํฐ์ ๋ฑ ์ปค๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ์ถฉ์ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ํต์ฌ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ถ์ง๊ณผ ๋๋ถ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ ๋ต์๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋จ์ํํ๊ณ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ ์ํ๊ณผ ์๋น์ค์ ์ง์คํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
As part of the strategic focus in the second quarter, we entered into an agreement to sell the assets of our rail equipment leasing business, this transaction is expected to close in the first quarter of next year. As we look ahead, what we see regarding the health of our clients and customers has not changed. Consumers and businesses remain strong as unemployment remains low and inflation remains in check. Credit card spending growth softened very slightly in the second quarter, but is still up year-over-year and remain strong overall, and debit card spending growth has remained strong and consistent with what we saw in prior quarters. | 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ต์ ์ง์ค์ ์ผํ์ผ๋ก, ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ฒ ๋ ์ฅ๋น ๋ฆฌ์ค ์ฌ์ ์ ์์ฐ ๋งค๊ฐ ๊ณ์ฝ์ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋๋ ๋ด๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์๋ฃ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ค๋ณผ ๋, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฑด์ ์ฑ์ ๋ํด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋ณํ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ฅ ์ด ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์ธํ๋ ์ด์ ์ด ์ต์ ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋ฐ ์๋น์์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ํ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ์ง์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ํญ ๋ํ๋์์ง๋ง, ์ฌ์ ํ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง๋ถ์นด๋ ์ง์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ์ด์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ค์์ ๋ณด์๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Consumer delinquencies continued to improve from a year ago and commercial credit performance continued to be relatively strong. Deposit flows for both our consumer and commercial clients were in line with seasonal trends. I've had the opportunity to meet with many of our commercial banking clients this past quarter and many have conveyed optimism that the administration is working to level the trade playing field. They would like certainty, but prioritize a good outcome for U.S. trade above short-term certainty. Many have found ways to avoid passing the 10% tariffs on to their customers. | ์๋น์ ์ฐ์ฒด์จ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋์ ์๊ธ ํ๋ฆ์ ๊ณ์ ์ ์ถ์ธ์ ๋ถํฉํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋ง์ ์์ ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ง๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์๋๋ฐ, ๋ค์๊ฐ ํ ํ์ ๋ถ๊ฐ ๋ฌด์ญ ๊ฒฝ์์ ๊ณต์ ์ฑ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ ธ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ํด ๋๊ด์ ์ธ ๊ฒฌํด๋ฅผ ํํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ํ์ค์ฑ์ ์ํ์ง๋ง, ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ํ์ค์ฑ๋ณด๋ค๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌด์ญ์ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ฐ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด 10% ๊ด์ธ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ์ ๊ฐํ์ง ์๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ์ฐพ์๋์ต๋๋ค. |
At the same time, they are preparing for the downside and are not growing inventories or higher aggressively and developing contingency plan if the downside scenario occurs. As I've said before, we are hopeful that the results of the current negotiations will make our clients more competitive and help drive stronger economic growth in the U.S., but there is uncertainty, and we should recognize there is risk to the downside as the markets seem to have priced in successful outcomes. As I highlighted, now that the asset cap has been lifted, we are more committed than ever to serving our customers, supporting businesses and communities and contributing to economic growth in the U.S. | ๋์์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ํ๋ฐฉ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ์ ๋๋นํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ์ง ์๊ณ ํ๋ฐฉ ์๋๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๋ฅผ ๋๋นํ ๋น์ ๊ณํ์ ์๋ฆฝํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ํ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ์ ๋์ด๊ณ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ์ด ์กด์ฌํ๋ฉฐ, ์์ฅ์ด ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ด๋ ๋งํผ ํ๋ฐฉ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ธ์ํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ํด์ ๋ ์ง๊ธ, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ ๋๋ณด๋ค๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์๋น์ค, ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ง์ญ์ฌํ ์ง์, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
I continue to believe we have 1 of the most enviable financial services franchise in the world. I'm excited to continue to move forward with plans to produce industry-leading sustainable growth and returns. I'll now turn the call over to Mike. Michael P. Santomassimo Thank you, Charlie, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, we had net income of $5.5 billion or $1.60 per diluted common share, up from both the first quarter and a year ago. These improved results reflect our continued focus on our strategic priorities. | ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ธ๊ณ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ถ๋ฌ์์ ์ฌ๋ ๊ธ์ต์๋น์ค ํ๋์ฐจ์ด์ฆ ์ค ํ๋๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์
๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ง์๊ฐ๋ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ณํ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํด ๋๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํด ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ง์ดํฌ์๊ฒ ๋ฐ์ธ๊ถ์ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ดํด P. ์ฐํ ๋ง์๋ชจ ์ฐฐ๋ฆฌ, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, ์๋ ํ์ธ์. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 55์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์์ด์ต์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ํฌ์ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ฃผ๋น 1.60๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ชจ๋ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ์ค์ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ ๋ต์ ์ฐ์ ์์์ ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ง์ค์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Through our ongoing investments in our businesses, expense focus, strong credit discipline and continued capital return, we have steadily increased profitability and returns. Our second quarter results included $253 million or $0.06 per share from the gain associated with our acquisition of the remaining interest in our Merchant Services joint venture. Turning to Slide 4. Net interest income increased $213 million or 2% from the first quarter, driven by lower deposit costs, 1 additional day in the second quarter and higher securities yields and higher loan balances. I'll update you on our expectations for full year net interest income later in the call. Moving to Slide 5. | ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํฌ์, ๋น์ฉ ๊ด๋ฆฌ, ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ์ฉ ๊ท์จ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์๋ณธ ํ์์ ํตํด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ต์ฑ๊ณผ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊พธ์คํ ์ฆ๊ฐ์์ผ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์๋ ๋จธ์ฒํธ ์๋น์ค ํฉ์ํฌ์์์ ์์ฌ ์ง๋ถ ์ธ์์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ด์ต์ผ๋ก 2์ต 5,300๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ, ์ฃผ๋น 0.06๋ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 4๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ด์์์ต์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 2์ต 1,300๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ, 2% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์๊ธ ๋น์ฉ ๊ฐ์, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ ์ผ 1์ผ ์ฆ๊ฐ, ์ ๊ฐ์ฆ๊ถ ์์ต๋ฅ ์์น, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์ถ ์์ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. ํตํ ํ๋ฐ๋ถ์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์์ด์์์ต ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 5๋ก ์ด๋ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Both average and period-end loans grew from the first quarter period-end balances were up $10.6 billion from a year ago, driven by growth in commercial and industrial loans, predominantly in the Corporate and Investment Banking business as well as slightly higher auto other consumer and credit card loans, while residential mortgage and commercial real estate loans continued to decline. Average deposits in our businesses increased 4% from a year ago. We reduced higher-cost corporate treasury deposits by 58% from last year, causing total average deposits declined 1%. | ํ๊ท ๋์ถ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ๋ง ๋์ถ ๋ชจ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ๋ง ์์ก์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 106์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฃผ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธ์ต ๋ฐ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ ๋ฐ ์ฐ์ ๋์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์๋์ฐจ, ๊ธฐํ ์๋น์ ๋ฐ ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ๋์ถ์ ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ฉด ์ฃผํ๋ด๋ณด๋์ถ๊ณผ ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ๋์ถ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ๊ท ์๊ธ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๋น์ฉ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์๊ธ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 58% ๊ฐ์ถํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ, ์ ์ฒด ํ๊ท ์๊ธ์ 1% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
Total average deposits also declined 1% from the first quarter as a small increase in consumer deposits was more than offset by lower commercial and corporate treasury deposits. Average deposit costs continued to decline and were down 6 basis points from the first quarter. Turning to Slide 6. Noninterest income increased $348 million or 4% from a year ago, results in the second quarter benefited from the gain associated with our Merchant Services joint venture transaction. I would note that the increase in card fees versus the first quarter reflected a change in where we recognized merchant services revenue resulting from this transaction. | ํ๊ท ์ด์๊ธ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 1% ๊ฐ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์๋น์ ์๊ธ์ ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ๋ฒ์ธ ์๊ธ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์๊ธ์ ๊ฐ์๋ก ์์๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๊ท ์๊ธ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ฝํ์ฌ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 6๋ฒ ์ด์์คํฌ์ธํธ ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 6์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ด์์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 3์ต 4,800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋๋ 4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋น์ฌ์ ๊ฐ๋งน์ ์๋น์ค ํฉ์ํฌ์ ๊ฑฐ๋์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ด์ต์ ํํ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋๋ก ์ธํด ๊ฐ๋งน์ ์๋น์ค ์์ต์ ์ธ์ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ณํ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
Revenue is now included in card fees, whereas previously, our share of the net earnings in the joint venture were included in other noninterest income. We continue to have growth in many of the businesses where we have been investing, including a 9% increase in investment banking fees from a year ago. The growth in noninterest income more than offset lower net interest income, resulting in modest revenue growth from a year ago. Turning to expenses on Slide 7. Noninterest expense increased $86 million or 1% from a year ago, driven by an increase in revenue- related compensation predominantly in Wealth and Investment Management. | ์์ต์ ์ด์ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ์ ํฌํจ๋๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ ์๋ ํฉ์ํฌ์์์ ๋ฐ์ํ ์์ด์ต ์ค ๋น์ฌ ์ง๋ถ์ด ๊ธฐํ ๋น์ด์์์ต์ ํฌํจ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๊ฐ ํฌ์ํด์จ ๋ง์ ์ฌ์
๋ถ์ผ์์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํฌ์์ํ ์์๋ฃ๋ ์ ๋
๋๋น 9% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ด์์์ต์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์์ด์์์ต ๊ฐ์๋ถ์ ์์ํ๊ณ ๋ ๋จ์ ์ ๋
๋๋น ์๋งํ ์์ต ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 7์ ๋น์ฉ ๋ถ๋ถ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ด์๋น์ฉ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 8,600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋๋ 1% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฃผ๋ก ์์ฐ๊ด๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ ํฌ์๊ด๋ฆฌ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ต ์ฐ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
Our other expenses were relatively stable as the investments we are making in our businesses, including the increased spending in technology and advertising were offset by lower operating losses and the impact of efficiency initiatives. The 4% decline in noninterest expense from the first quarter was driven by seasonally higher first quarter personnel expense. Turning to credit quality on Slide 8. Credit performance continued to improve and remained strong. Our net loan charge-off ratio declined 13 basis points from a year ago and 1 basis point from the first quarter. Commercial net loan charge-offs increased $36 million from the first quarter to 18 basis points on average loans. | ๊ธฐํ ๋น์ฉ์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ๊ด๊ณ ์ง์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ์ฌ์
ํฌ์๊ฐ ์์
์์ค ๊ฐ์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋์
ํฐ๋ธ์ ํจ๊ณผ๋ก ์์๋๋ฉด์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋น์ด์๋น์ฉ์ด 4% ๊ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๊ณ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ธ๊ฑด๋น์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 8์ ์ ์ฉ ํ์ง๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํจ์ ์ ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋์ถ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ๋น์จ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 13bp, 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 1bp ํ๋ฝํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ฉ ์๋์ถ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 3,600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ํ๊ท ๋์ถ ๋๋น 18bp๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. |
The losses in our commercial and industrial loan portfolio were borrower specific with little signs of systematic weakness across the portfolio. Commercial real estate losses decreased during the first quarter. As we have said, it will take time for the office fundamentals to recover. Valuations appear to be stabilizing, and although we expect additional losses, they should be well within our expectations. Consumer net loan charge-offs declined $48 million from the first quarter to 81 basis points of average loans with improvement across all of our non-real estate portfolios, while the residential mortgage portfolio continued to have net recoveries. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ ๋ฐ ์ฐ์ ๋์ถ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์์ค์ ์ฐจ์ฃผ๋ณ ํน์ ์์ธ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก, ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์น ์์คํ ์ ์ฝ์ธ์ ์งํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ์์ค์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์คํผ์ค ํ๋๋ฉํธ์ด ํ๋ณต๋๊ธฐ๊น์ง๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐธ๋ฅ์์ด์ ์ ์์ ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ถ๊ฐ ์์ค์ด ์์๋์ง๋ง ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ ์์ ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๊ด๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋น์ ์ ๋์ถ ์๊ฐ์ก์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 4,800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ฐ์ํ์ฌ ํ๊ท ๋์ถ ๋๋น 81bp๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋ ๋น๋ถ๋์ฐ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ณด์๊ณ , ์ฃผํ๋ด๋ณด๋์ถ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ํ์๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. |
Nonperforming assets declined 3% from the first quarter, driven by lower commercial real estate nonaccrual loans, predominantly in the office portfolio. Moving to Slide 9. Our allowance for credit losses for loans increased modestly from the first quarter, and our allowance coverage ratio for total loans has been relatively stable for the past 5 quarters, as credit trends have remained fairly consistent even amid macroeconomic uncertainty. Our allowance for coverage. Allowance coverage for our Corporate and Investment Banking and commercial real estate office portfolio has also been relatively stable over the past year and was 11.1% in the second quarter. | ๋ถ์ค์์ฐ์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 3% ๊ฐ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฃผ๋ก ์คํผ์ค ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ํ ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ๋ฌด์์ต ๋์ถ ๊ฐ์์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 9๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ถ ์ ์ฉ์์ค์ถฉ๋น๊ธ์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฑฐ์๊ฒฝ์ ์ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ ์์์๋ ์ ์ฉ ๋ํฅ์ด ์๋นํ ์ผ๊ด๋๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ ์ฒด ๋์ถ์ ๋ํ ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋น์จ์ ์ง๋ 5๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์์ํ์ ๋ฌด์ ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ์คํผ์ค ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ๋ํ ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ์ญ์ ์ง๋ 1๋ ๊ฐ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ ์ด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 11.1%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. |
Turning to capital and liquidity on Slide 10. We maintained our strong capital position with our CET1 ratio at 11.1% and well above our current CET1 regulatory minimum plus buffers of 9.7%. Starting in the fourth quarter of this year, our new CET1 regulatory minimum plus buffers is expected to decline to 8.5%. As you know, the Federal Reserve has a pending notice of proposed rulemaking that would include averaging stress test results from the previous 2 years to determine the stress capital buffer. If that is finalized as proposed, the effective date may move to January 1 and our expected new CET1 regulatory minimum plus buffers would be 8.6%. | ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 10์ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐ ์ ๋์ฑ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ CET1 ๋น์จ 11.1%๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์๋ณธ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ํ์ฌ CET1 ๊ท์ ์ต์์๊ตฌ๋น์จ๊ณผ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ์ ํฉ์น 9.7%๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ฒ ์ํํ๋ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ์ ํฌ์ ์๋ก์ด CET1 ๊ท์ ์ต์์๊ตฌ๋น์จ๊ณผ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ ํฉ๊ณ๋ 8.5%๋ก ํ๋ฝํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์์๋ค์ํผ, ์ฐ๋ฐฉ์ค๋น์ ๋์ด์ฌํ๋ ์คํธ๋ ์ค ์๋ณธ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ 2๋ ๊ฐ์ ์คํธ๋ ์ค ํ ์คํธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํ๊ท ํํ๋ ๋ด์ฉ์ ํฌํจํ ๊ท์น ์ ์ ์ ์ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ณ๋ฅ ์ค์ ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ์๋ ๋๋ก ํ์ ๋๋ค๋ฉด, ์ํ์ผ์ 1์ 1์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ํ ์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ์๋ก์ด CET1 ๊ท์ ์ต์์๊ตฌ๋น์จ๊ณผ ์์ถฉ์๋ณธ ํฉ๊ณ๋ 8.6%๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
We repurchased $3 billion of common stock in the second quarter and have the capacity to continue to repurchase shares. Also, as Charlie highlighted, we expect to increase our common stock dividend to $0.45 per share in the third quarter, subject to board approval. Moving to our operating segments, starting with Consumer Banking and lending on Slide 11. Consumer, Small and Business Banking revenue increased 3% from a year ago driven by lower deposit costs and higher deposit balances. For the second consecutive quarter, deposit balances grew from a year ago, even with higher outflows for tax payments in the second quarter of this year compared with last year. | 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ 30์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํฅํ์๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฌ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋งค์
ํ ์ ์๋ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ Charlie๊ฐ ๊ฐ์กฐํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ด์ฌํ ์น์ธ์ ์ ์ ๋ก 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ ์ฃผ๋น 0.45๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ธ์ํ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ด์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ์, ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 11์ ์๋น์ ์ํ ๋ฐ ๋์ถ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ถํฐ ์ดํด๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋น์, ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ต์ ์๊ธ ๋น์ฉ ๊ฐ์์ ์๊ธ ์๊ณ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ์ด ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 3% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ธ๊ธ ๋ฉ๋ถ๋ก ์ธํ ์ ์ถ์ด ์๋ ์ ๋นํด ์ฆ๊ฐํ์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ , ์๊ธ ์๊ณ ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฐ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
Debit card spending remained strong, up 4% from a year ago, consistent with the prior 2 quarters. Home Lending revenue was stable from a year ago, mortgage loan originations increased 40% from a year ago as we focused on servicing Wells Fargo customers. This higher volume also reflected a stronger mortgage market from a year ago, however, the mortgage market continued to be weak compared with historical levels due to the higher rate environment. We continue to reduce headcount, which has declined 49% since the end of 2022 as we have simplified the business and reduced the amount of third-party mortgage loan service for others by 33% since the end of 2022. | ์ง๋ถ์นด๋ ์ง์ถ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ง๋ 2๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๊ด๋ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์ฃผํ๋์ถ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ์ ๋น๊ตํด ์์ ์ ์ด์๊ณ , Wells Fargo ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์๋น์ค์ ์ง์คํ๋ฉด์ ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ๋์ถ ์ ๊ท ์ทจ๊ธ์ก์ด ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 40% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋์ ๊ฑฐ๋๋์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ฐํ๋ ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ์์ฅ์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ด์ง๋ง, ๊ณ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๊ฒฝ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ์์ฅ์ ์ญ์ฌ์ ์์ค๊ณผ ๋น๊ตํ์ ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๋ถ์งํ ์ํฉ์ด ์ง์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋จ์ํํ๊ณ ์ 3์ ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ๋์ถ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ 2022๋ ๋ง ๋๋น 33% ์ถ์ํ๋ฉด์ ์ธ๋ ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง์ ์๋ 2022๋ ๋ง ์ดํ 49% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
Credit card revenue grew 9% from a year ago as loan balances increased and spending slowed slightly but remained strong. Auto revenue decreased 15% from a year ago, driven by lower loan balances and loan spread compression from previous credit typing actions. While these actions have reduced revenue, they have improved credit performance. Auto revenue increased 2% from the first quarter, the first linked-quarter increase since fourth quarter 2021. The decline in personal lending revenue from a year ago was driven by lower loan balances. Turning to Commercial Banking results on Slide 12. | ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ์์ต์ ๋์ถ ์์ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ง์ถ์ด ์ํญ ๋ํ๋์์ง๋ง ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 9% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋์ฐจ ์์ต์ ๋์ถ ์์ก ๊ฐ์์ ์ด์ ์ ์ฉ ๊ฐํ ์กฐ์น๋ก ์ธํ ๋์ถ ์คํ๋ ๋ ์์ถ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 15% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์กฐ์น๋ค์ด ์์ต์ ๊ฐ์์์ผฐ์ง๋ง, ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋์ฐจ ์์ต์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 2% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 2021๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ดํ ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ธ ๋์ถ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ฐ์๋ ๋์ถ ์์ก ๊ฐ์์ ๊ธฐ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 12์ ์์ ์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Revenue was down 6% from a year ago as lower net interest income due to the impact of lower interest rates was partially offset by growth in noninterest income driven by higher revenue from tax credit investments and an increase in treasury management fees. Average loan balances in the second quarter increased 1% from both a year ago and the first quarter as clients have largely remained cautious while waiting for more clarity on the economic environment. Turning to Corporate Investment Banking on Slide 13. | ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 6% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๋ฝ์ ์ํฅ์ผ๋ก ์ธํ ์์ด์์์ต ๊ฐ์๊ฐ ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ํฌ์๋ก ์ธํ ์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์๊ธ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์์๋ฃ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ์ ๋น์ด์์์ต ์ฑ์ฅ์ผ๋ก ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ๊ท ๋์ถ์์ก์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 1%, ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 1% ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ํ ๋ณด๋ค ๋ช ํํ ์ ๋ง์ ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ๋์ฒด๋ก ์ ์คํ ์์ธ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 13์ ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Banking revenue was down 7% from a year ago, driven by the impact of lower interest rates -- this decline was partially offset by lower deposit pricing and higher investment banking revenue, including higher advisory fees. Commercial real estate revenue declined 6% from a year ago due to lower loan balances, the impact of lower interest rates as well as reduced mortgage banking income after the sale of our commercial non-Agency third-party servicing business in the first quarter. Markets revenue declined 1% from a year ago as higher revenue in foreign exchange and rates products was offset by declines in equities. | ์ํ์ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 7% ๊ฐ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๋ฝ์ ์ํฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์๋ ์๊ธ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ธํ์ ์๋ฌธ ์์๋ฃ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ํฌ์์ํ์ ๋ฌด ์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 6% ๊ฐ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๋์ถ ์์ก ๊ฐ์, ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๋ฝ์ ์ํฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ ์ฉ ๋น์์ด์ ์ ์ 3์ ์๋น์ฑ ์ฌ์ ๋งค๊ฐ ์ดํ ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ๋ฑ ํน ์์ต ๊ฐ์์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 1% ๊ฐ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ธํ ๋ฐ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ํ์์์ ์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ์๋ก ์์๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
We had $122 million gain related to an exchange of shares for vis-a-vis common stock that benefited equities a year ago. Average loans grew 4% from a year ago and 3% from the first quarter. The increase from the first quarter was broad-based with higher balances in markets, banking and commercial real estate. On Slide 14, Wealth and Investment Management revenue increased 1% from a year ago as growth in asset-based fees driven by higher market valuations was partially offset by lower net interest income due to the impact of lower rates. | 1๋ ์ ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๊ตํ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํ์ฌ 1์ต 2,200๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์ด์ต์ด ๋ฐ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ง๋ถ์ ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ํ๊ท ๋์ถ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 4%, 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 3% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์์ฅ, ๋ฑ ํน, ์์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋์ฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ก ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ฌ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 14์์ ๋ณด์๋ฉด, ์์ฐ์ด์ฉ ๋ฐ ํฌ์๊ด๋ฆฌ ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 1% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์์ฅ ๊ฐ์น ์์น์ผ๋ก ์ธํ ์์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์์๋ฃ ์ฆ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๋ฝ์ ์ํฅ์ผ๋ก ์ธํ ์์ด์์์ต ๊ฐ์๋ก ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. |
As a reminder, the majority of WIM advisory assets are priced at the beginning of the quarter, so third quarter results will reflect the higher July 1 market valuations. Slide 15 highlights corporate results. Revenue increased from a year ago, driven by the gain associated with our Merchant Services joint venture transaction. Turning to our 2025 outlook on Slide 16. Starting with net interest income. | ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, WIM ์๋ฌธ ์์ฐ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ด์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ์ฑ ์ ๋๋ฏ๋ก, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ 7์ 1์ผ์ ๋์ ์์ฅ ๊ฐ์นํ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 15๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ค์ ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๋๋ค. ์์ต์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ๋จธ์ฒํธ ์๋น์ค ํฉ์ํฌ์ ๊ฑฐ๋์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ด์ต์ ์ํด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 16์ 2025๋ ์ ๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ด์์์ต๋ถํฐ ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
We currently expect net interest income for 2025 to be roughly in line with full year 2024 net interest income of $47.7 billion, while there are several moving pieces of why we currently expect net interest income to be a little lower than we discussed in April, the largest driver is that we have dedicated more balance sheet to our markets business than we originally assumed, including supporting stronger client activity in products like commodities and rates, which can be low -- which can have low or nonearning assets. The cost of funding this activity results in lower net interest income, while most of the revenue generated is recognized in noninterest income. | ํ์ฌ 2025๋ ์์ด์์์ต์ 2024๋ ์ ์ฒด ์ฐ๋ ์์ด์์์ต 477์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋๋ต ๋น์ทํ ์์ค์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ด์์์ต์ด 4์์ ๋ ผ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ๋ค์ ๋ฎ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ ์ด์ ์๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ์ด ์์ง๋ง, ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์์ธ์ ๋น์ด ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ๋ง์ผ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ํ ๋นํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ํ๊ณผ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ์์ ๋ ๊ฐํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋์ ์ง์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ํฌํจ๋๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๋ฎ์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ฌด์์ต ์์ฐ์ด ๋ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋์ ๋ํ ์๊ธ์กฐ๋ฌ ๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ์์ด์์์ต์ด ๋ฎ์์ง๋ ๋ฐ๋ฉด, ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ์์ต์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋น์ด์์์ต์ผ๋ก ์ธ์๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
Our updated expectation still assumes net interest income grow sequentially in both the third and fourth quarter of this year. We are only halfway through the year and several key variables including net interest income remain uncertain. We will closely monitor how these assumptions evolve over the remaining of the year. Turning to expenses. Our expense outlook has not changed, and we still expect 2025 noninterest expense to be approximately $54.2 billion. In summary, our second quarter results reflected the consistent progress we've been making to improve our financial performance. | ์ ํฌ์ ์
๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ ์ ๋ง์ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฌํด 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋์์ ์์ด์์์ต์ด ์์ฐจ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๊ฐ ์ ๋ฐ๋ฐ์ ์ง๋์ง ์์๊ณ ์์ด์์์ต์ ํฌํจํ ์ฌ๋ฌ ํต์ฌ ๋ณ์๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ๋ถํ์คํ ์ํฉ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณํํ๋์ง ๋ฉด๋ฐํ ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋งํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ ๋ถ๋ถ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ๋์ง ์์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2025๋ ๋น์ด์๋น์ฉ์ด ์ฝ 542์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ์ ํ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ํด ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์จ ์ง์ ์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. |
Compared with a year ago, we had double-digit growth in net income and diluted earnings per share through revenue, including fee-based growth across many of our businesses, maintained our expense discipline, improved our credit performance and reduced common shares outstanding and increased our dividend. Now that the asset cap is lifted, the management team has more time to focus on our growth initiatives, and we'll have -- we will also have the flexibility to allocate more capital to growing our balance sheet, including deposits, loans and trading assets. We will now take your questions. | ์๋ ๋๋น ์์ด์ต๊ณผ ํฌ์์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต์์ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์์๋ฃ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ํฌํจํ ์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ, ๋น์ฉ ์ ์ ์ ์ง, ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ , ๋ณดํต์ฃผ ๋ฐํ์ฃผ์์ ๊ฐ์ ๋ฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ก์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ํด์ ๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ์ง์คํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์๊ธ, ๋์ถ ๋ฐ ํธ๋ ์ด๋ฉ ์์ฐ์ ํฌํจํ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ํ๋์ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๋ณธ์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Here's a summary of the Wells Fargo Q2 2025 earnings call in Korean:
โข ์ฃผ์ ์ค์
- ์์ด์ต, EPS, ์ ํ์๊ธฐ์๋ณธ์ด์ต๋ฅ ๋ชจ๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ ๋
๋๋น ์์น
- 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ด์ต 55์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ, ํฌ์์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต 1.60๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ์์๋ฃ ์์ต ์ ๋
๋น 4% ์ฆ๊ฐ
โข ์์ฐํ๋ ๊ท์ ํด์ ๊ด๋ จ
- ์์ฐํ๋ ๊ท์ ๊ฐ ํด์ ๋์ด ์๊ธ๊ณผ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ค ์ ์๊ฒ ๋จ
- ์๋น์/๊ธฐ์
์๊ธ ์ ์น ๋ฐ ๋์ถ ํ๋ ๊ณํ ๋ฐํ
- ์์ฅ ๊ด๋ จ ์ฌ์
์๋ ๋ ๋ง์ ์์ฐ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ๊ฐ๋ฅ
โข ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ฑด์ ์ฑ ๋ฐ ์๋ณธ๊ด๋ฆฌ
- CET1 ๋น์จ 11.1% ์ ์งํ๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ๊ฑดํ ์๋ณธ๊ตฌ์กฐ ์ง์
- 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น 12.5% ์ธ์ํ์ฌ ์ฃผ๋น 0.45๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์์
- 400์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ ์ด์ฌํ ์น์ธ
โข 2025๋
์ ๋ง
- ์์ด์์ด์ต์ 2024๋
์์ค(477์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ)๊ณผ ๋น์ทํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ง
- ๋น์ด์๋น์ฉ์ 542์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์์ค ์ ์ง ์ ๋ง
- 3,4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ด์์ด์ต ์์ฐจ์ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์์
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Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from John McDonald of Truist Securities. | **Operator:** [์ด์์ ์๋ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Truist Securities์ John McDonald๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
John Eamon McDonald: Mike, thanks for the explanation on the NII outlook, it's helpful. The markets piece of it. Just on the non-markets NII, could you talk about what kind of loan growth assumptions you kind of built into the NII outlook for the back half of the year and how that connects to what you saw in terms of loan growth in the second quarter. | **John Eamon McDonald:** ๋ง์ดํฌ, NII ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํ ์ค๋ช ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ถ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋น๋ง์ผ NII์ ๋ํด์๋ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ NII ์ ๋ง์ ์ด๋ค ์ข ๋ฅ์ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ํ์ จ๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ณด์ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes, sure, John. Thanks for the question. When you break apart the portfolio on the consumer side, we're not -- on the mortgage portfolio, we expect that will likely just continue to come down just a little bit in the second half. I think you should see a little bit of growth in card, some of that seasonality in terms of what happens as you go into third and fourth quarter spending. And then we started to see some growth in auto, small, but started to see that turn. So hopefully, that will continue to grow in the second half of the year, but relatively modest in the overall balance sheet. On the commercial side, we do expect to see some modest growth as we go into the rest of the year. I think it likely comes from the same places, at least as we come into the third quarter, mostly in the corporate investment bank. Hopefully, we'll start to see some of the commercial bank customers borrow a little bit more as well. But I'd say, overall, it's still relatively modest. But as you get to the end of the year, hopefully, if things play out, we'll start to see a little bit more activity more broadly. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋น์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ์ธ๋ถํํด์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ชจ๊ธฐ์ง ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์นด๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ณ , 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ง์ถ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๋ ๊ณ์ ์ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋์ฐจ ๋์ถ์์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋๋ฐ, ๊ท๋ชจ๋ ์์ง๋ง ์ ํ์ ์ ๋ง์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ ๊ณ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ์ง๋ง, ์ ์ฒด ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ์์๋ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์๋งํ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์๋งํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด์๋ฉด์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณณ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋์ฌ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ๋๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ์์ ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์ฐจ์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์์ํ๊ธธ ๋ฐ๋ผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ์๋นํ ์๋งํ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ง์ด ๋๋ฉด ์ํฉ์ด ์ ํ๋ฆฐ๋ค๋ฉด ์ข ๋ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ๊ฒ ํ๋์ด ๋์ด๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
John Eamon McDonald: Okay. And then maybe you could just give us your thoughts in terms of total revenue. I know you don't give total revenue guidance, but just maybe when you look at your own internal projections and budgeting, how is the revenue outlook for this year shaping up? What are the puts and takes relative to your expectations if we think about the year so far? | **John Eamon McDonald:** ๋ค, ์ ์ฒด ๋งค์ถ์ ๋ํ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด ๋งค์ถ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ์๋๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์๊ณ ๊ณ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ๋ด๋ถ ์ ๋ง๊ณผ ์์ฐ ์๋ฆฝ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ ๊ด์ ์ ๊ณต์ ํด๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ฌํด ๋งค์ถ ์ ๋ง์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฑ๋๊ณ ์๋์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง์ ์ํฉ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์ ํฌ ์์ ๋๋น ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์์ธ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ถ์ ์ ์ธ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ค ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์๋์ง ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ์ด๋ถํฐ ํ์ฌ๊น์ง์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋ณผ ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ณ์๋ค์ด ์์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. No, it's -- as you sort of break apart like the pieces, we talked a bit about where NII is coming out at this point. I think when you look at the fee side, the biggest -- go through the biggest line items and you look at the investment advisory fees, the market's been very supportive as you look at the rest of the year. And so -- so you can easily sort of model what the third quarter looks like based on where the markets ended already given most of the fees are already sort of certain -- and then -- so as long as the market sort of holds up or grows a little potentially as you go into the fourth quarter, that should be constructive. You start breaking down deposit fees, card fees, all that stuff plays into some of the seasonal activity that we'll see in the third quarter and fourth quarter. And I'd say largely, those things are kind of playing out pretty close to what we modeled depending on the month or quarter, maybe a little bit better, but they're playing out largely as we expected across most of those. And then it's really sort of trading line, and that will be driven by what kind of activity and volatility we see in the market. But I think we've had a pretty constructive environment now for a couple of quarters. Hopefully, that continues. And then I think lastly, just -- we'll see how the year comes out on the equity securities gains that we saw. We did see some modest gains in this quarter. Big improvement relative to what we saw last quarter as the market remains constructive, that hopefully that will continue as well. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋์ด ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ด์์์ต(NII)์ด ํ์ฌ ์ด๋ค ์ํฉ์ธ์ง ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. ์์๋ฃ ์ธก๋ฉด์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ํญ๋ชฉ๋ค์ ์ดํด๋ณด๊ณ ํฌ์์๋ฌธ์์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์์ฅ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ฐํธ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์์๋ฃ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ํ์ ๋์ด ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์์ฅ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง๊ฐ๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก 3๋ถ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋ค ๋ชจ์ต์ผ์ง ์ฝ๊ฒ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ก ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ฉด์ ์์ฅ์ด ํ์ฌ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์๊ธ ์์๋ฃ, ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ๋ฑ์ ์ธ๋ถํํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ํ๋ ๊ณ์ ์ ํ๋์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์นฉ๋๋ค. ๋์ฒด๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ์์๋ค์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋น์ทํ๊ฒ ์งํ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ด๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ๋์ ์๋ ์์ง๋ง, ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ํญ๋ชฉ์์ ์์ํ๋ ๋๋ก ์ ๊ฐ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ํธ๋ ์ด๋ฉ ๋ผ์ธ์ด ํต์ฌ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ฅ์์ ์ด๋ค ์ข ๋ฅ์ ํ๋๊ณผ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋๋๋์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ข์ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๊ฝค ๊ฑด์ค์ ์ธ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ์งํด์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ํฉ์ด ๊ณ์๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณธ ์ง๋ถ์ฆ๊ถ ์ด์ต์ด ์ฌํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋์ฌ์ง ์ง์ผ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ ๋นํ ์์ค์ ์ด์ต์ ํ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ํฐ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ฅ์ด ๊ฑด์ค์ ์ธ ์ํฉ์ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ด์ ์ด๋ฐ ํ๋ฆ์ด ๊ณ์ ์ด์ด์ง๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
John Eamon McDonald: Okay. And I guess just to clarify, Mike, you mentioned -- you used to previously say that your NII guide assumes the asset cap remains in place. And now we relax that assumption. The outlook is a little worse. Is it just this counterintuitive mix shift that you're going to grow the capital markets balance sheet, but it's going to come in fees? | **John Eamon McDonald:** ๋ค, ๋ช ํํ ํ์๋ฉด ๋ง์ดํฌ, ์ด์ ์ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์์ด์์์ต(NII) ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๊ฐ ์์ฐ ํ๋(asset cap)๊ฐ ์ ์ง๋๋ค๋ ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ๋์จ ๊ฒ์ด์๋๋ฐ, ์ด์ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ํํ๋๋ ์ ๋ง์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ๋๋น ์ก๋ค๋ ๋ง์์ด์์ฃ . ์๋ณธ์์ฅ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ํค์ง๋ง ์์ต์ ์์๋ฃ๋ก ๋์ฌ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ์ง๊ด์ ๋ฐํ๋ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ ๋๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ์? |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. I would -- well, I remind you, first, it's been off for what weeks now, 5.5 weeks, 6 weeks. And so I do think it has been off for a very short amount of time. And I think what's happened as we sort of looked at and some of this started in the -- towards the end of the first quarter, early second quarter, and we sort of talked about it in some other public forums. We've seen some increase in the activity, and that's what's causing it. That's by far, the largest driver of what's causing it to move down a little bit from the low end of the range that we talked about in April. And so -- and as we said, like largely offset in fees on those because you get paid in fees for some of the -- for some of that activity. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์ ์ด์ ๋ช ์ฃผ ์ ๋ ์ค๋จ๋ ์ํ์ธ๋ฐ, 5์ฃผ ๋ฐ์์ 6์ฃผ ์ ๋์ ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ์งง์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์ค๋จ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ดํด๋ณธ ๋ฐ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฐ ํ์์ด 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ด์ ์์๋์๊ณ , ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ณต๊ฐ ํฌ๋ผ์์๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋๋์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์์ธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด 4์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฒ์์ ํํ์ ์์ ์ฝ๊ฐ ํ๋ฝํ๊ฒ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์์ธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ด๋ฐ ํ๋์ ์ผ๋ถ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์์๋ฃ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
Charles W. Scharf: Yes. And let me just add a little -- John, it's Charlie. Let me just add just one thing here, which is as we look forward to the end of the year, we have so far assumed -- I would describe it as a very small increase in the overall size of the balance sheet. So we do assume it grows above what used to be the cap, but not in any really meaningful way. And when we look at where that growth is coming from, part of it is the loan growth that Mike spoke about earlier, but we have been and assume that we dedicate balance sheet to our markets business. And as we think about that, we're not focused on maximizing net interest income. We're focused on maximizing returns, how much money we make overall. And so we'll try and do as good a job as we can going forward, giving some more clarity on how we intend to use that balance sheet, how it can affect the different pieces. But that is -- it's a little bit of what we saw during this past quarter, and it's the way we're thinking about the rest of the year. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ ๋ง๋ถ์ด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์กด, ์ ๋ ์ฐฐ๋ฆฌ์
๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ง์ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด๋ฉด์ ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ์ ํฌ๋ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ์ ์ฒด ๊ท๋ชจ์์ ์์ฃผ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์กด ํ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด์๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์์ค์ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ์ด๋์ ๋์ค๋์ง ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๋ง์ดํฌ๊ฐ ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์์ ๋์ค์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ง์ผ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ํ ๋นํด์๊ณ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ทธ๋ด ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ด์์์ต(net interest income) ๊ทน๋ํ์ ์ง์คํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ ์์ต๋ฅ , ์ฆ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ง์ ๋์ ๋ฒ๋์ง์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ ๊ณํ์ธ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น ์ ์๋์ง์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๋๋ก ์ต์ ์ ๋คํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํํ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด์๊ณ , ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Scott Siefers of Piper Sandler. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ํ์ดํผ ์๋ค๋ฌ์ ์ค์ฝง ์ํผ์ค๋๊ป์ ํด์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Robert Scott Siefers: Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division I was hoping, Mike, maybe we could approach the NII question maybe, I guess, a little differently. I guess what are -- if loan growth in the second half will only be kind of modest, what are the other factors that will allow NII to grow? Because I think you'll still need to average a few percent higher in the second half than you just did in the second quarter. So just trying to understand what the major puts and takes are within there. | **Robert Scott Siefers:** ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์ ์๋งํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, NII๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ํ๊ท ์ด ๋ช ํผ์ผํธ ํฌ์ธํธ ๋ ๋์์ผ ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์์์ ์ฃผ์ํ ์์น ์์ธ๊ณผ ํ๋ฝ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes, Scott, it's a little bit of a lot of things, right, that will sort of add up to some growth each quarter. We do expect deposit costs to continue to come down. We do expect to see some loan growth come through. We do expect -- which will be a driver. We do expect to see further repricing of the securities portfolio. So it really is a little bit of a lot of things, plus some deposit growth as we go into the end of the year. And so I think all of that sort of adds up to seeing it grow sequentially each quarter. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, Scott, ์ฌ๋ฌ ์์๋ค์ด ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ํฉ์ณ์ ธ์ ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ด๋์ด๋ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ์๊ธ ๋น์ฉ์ ๊ณ์ ํ๋ฝํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฑ์ฅ ๋๋ ฅ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ๊ฐ์ฆ๊ถ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฌ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์ ๋ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง๋ก ์ฌ๋ฌ ์์๋ค์ด ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ๋ ์ํฉ์ด๊ณ , ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ง๋ก ๊ฐ์๋ก ์๊ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ๋ํด์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ํฉ์ณ์ ธ์ ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฐจ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
Robert Scott Siefers: Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Okay. Perfect. And then, Charlie, maybe just sort of a top-level thing. With the asset cap now off, I guess one of the questions that I get pretty frequently is sort of when or how might be the right time to revisit medium-term return targets. Do you have any broad sense for sort of where you are in thinking about that kind of dynamic? | **Robert Scott Siefers:** ๋ค, ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋(asset cap)๊ฐ ํด์ ๋ ์ํฉ์์ ์ค๊ธฐ ์์ต๋ฅ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๊ฒํ ํ๋ ์์ ์ด๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ๋ํด ์์ฃผ ๋ฌธ์๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด์๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒํ ๋ฅผ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ๋ก ์ธํด ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ํ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช ํ์ง๋ง, ์ค๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ ์์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ ์ ํ์ฌ ์ฌ์ ํ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์ ๋ฉด๋ฐํ ๋ถ์ํ๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ต๊ณผ ํฌ์ ๊ณํ์ ์ข ํฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒํ ํ ํ์ ์ ์ ํ ์์ ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ํ์ด๋ฐ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์์ง ํ์ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ง๋ง, ํฌ์์๋ค๊ป ๋ช ํํ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ฑ์ ์ ์ํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Charles W. Scharf: Sure. I guess a couple of things on that. I think you didn't directly ask the question, but let me just maybe talk for a second about capital levels because capital levels obviously dictate returns to a certain extent. And so with what's happening -- we've certainly seen a lot of change over the past quarter or so. Obviously, we've got the ability to rethink how we use balance sheet with the asset cap. And I do just want to remind people that like I have said very consistently over and over and over again, when the asset cap is lifted, it's not like this light switch is going to go off and all of a sudden, things are going to dramatically change. We didn't know exactly when the cap was going to be lifted. We didn't want to get ahead of ourselves. And so we're very carefully thinking through how we use the additional capacity to help grow the company. And so we expect that to happen over time. We never wanted to lead people to believe that there'll be any major change in the next week, the next month or next quarter, but it certainly does open options for us to grow and increase returns beyond what we've seen in the past. And so now that it's off, we're going to be thoughtful about it. And as we go through our planning for next year, like this is the perfect time, we will do our best to talk more about it and provide more clarity broadly to everyone so we can create a level of understanding there. We have the lower SCB, which is -- it is a huge decrease after a significant increase from the year before, which we commented in the year before, we didn't understand why we saw the increase. As we think about how that impacts where we should be running our capital levels, we want to take a little bit of time to let the Fed go through its process, both on CCAR and on the work they're doing on capital requirements. So we can try and get an understanding of what the right long-term level of capital is. So they've said that they're going to provide more transparency on CCAR, whether it's the underlying assumptions, the models, things like that. That will be extremely helpful for us so that we're not constantly readjusting capital targets on a yearly basis in any material way when in our view, we haven't materially changed the risk of the company. So that will be forthcoming, hopefully, over the next couple of months as the work they're doing on capital. So that will allow us to come back with a more definitive point of view on where we should be running capital. But certainly, all these things are lower levels from where we had been running it because of the increases that we saw. So that allows us to deploy excess capital either organically or through buybacks. And so we do expect to get there. And then just more specifically to your question, we've also said very clearly, 15% is not the -- it's an interim target. It's not the final target. Once we get there, it's a good time to revisit where we go. So both through hopefully, some increased returns that we're seeing in terms of how we run the business, running at some point with lower capital returns, we believe we'll be consistently at that 15%. And then we'll provide more information on where we go from there, which will obviously be a higher number, not a lower number. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ง๋ฌธํ์ง๋ ์์ผ์
จ์ง๋ง, ์๋ณธ ์์ค์ ๋ํด ์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ณธ ์์ค์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ํฉ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋ง์ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋(asset cap)๋ก ์ธํด ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ ์ง ๋ค์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๊ฒผ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ผ๊ด๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์๊ธฐ์์ผ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ํด์ ๋๋ค๊ณ ํด์ ์ ๋ฑ ์ค์์น๋ฅผ ์ผ๋ฏ์ด ๊ฐ์๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณํ์ง๋ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋๊ฐ ์ธ์ ํด์ ๋ ์ง ์ ํํ ์ ์ ์์๊ณ , ์ฑ๊ธํ๊ฒ ์์ ๋๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ถ๊ฐ ์ฉ๋์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํด์ ํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋์์ด ๋๋๋ก ํ ์ง ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๋ณํ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์ผ์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ์ฃผ๋ ๋ค์ ๋ฌ, ๋๋ ๋ค์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ํฐ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์๊ฐํ๋๋ก ์ ๋ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง๋ ์์์ง๋ง, ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ดค๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋์ผ ์ ์๋ ์ ํ์ง๋ค์ด ์ด๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ ์ฝ์ด ํด์ ๋์์ผ๋ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ ๊ณํ์ ์ธ์๋๊ฐ๋ฉด์, ์ง๊ธ์ด ์๋ฒฝํ ์๊ธฐ์ด๋ฏ๋ก, ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ง์ด ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ๊ณ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ ค์ ์ดํด๋๋ฅผ ๋์ผ ์ ์๋๋ก ์ต์ ์ ๋คํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. SCB๊ฐ ๋ฎ์์ก๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋ ๋๋น ์๋นํ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์ดํ์ ํฐ ํญ ๊ฐ์์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด ๋น์ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ดํดํ์ง ๋ชปํ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์๋ณธ ์์ค ์ด์์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ์ํฅ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์ฐ์ค์ด CCAR์ ์๋ณธ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ ๊ด๋ จ ์์ ์ ์งํํ๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์ง์ผ๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ผ ์ ์ ํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์๋ณธ ์์ค์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ํ์ ํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ค์ CCAR์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ง์ ํฌ๋ช ์ฑ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ , ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด๋ , ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ํด์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๋งค์ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ๊ด์ ์์ ํ์ฌ์ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๊ฐ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณํ์ง ์์๋๋ฐ๋ ๋งค๋ ์๋ณธ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์กฐ์ ํ์ง ์์๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์งํํ๊ณ ์๋ ์๋ณธ ๊ด๋ จ ์์ ์ด ์์ผ๋ก ๋ช ๋ฌ ๋ด์ ๋์ฌ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์๋ณธ์ ์ด๋ ์์ค์์ ์ด์ํด์ผ ํ๋์ง์ ๋ํด ๋ณด๋ค ๋ช ํํ ๊ด์ ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ๋์์ฌ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํ์คํ ๊ฒ์, ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ถ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ์ด์ํด์๋ ์์ค๋ณด๋ค๋ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด๋ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ํตํด ์์ฌ ์๋ณธ์ ๋ฐฐ์นํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋๋ฌํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ข ๋ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด 15%๋ ์ต์ข ๋ชฉํ๊ฐ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ค๊ฐ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋๋ค. ์ต์ข ๋ชฉํ๋ ์๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์์ค์ ๋๋ฌํ๋ฉด ๋ค์ ๋จ๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๊ฒํ ํ ์ข์ ์์ ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ ์ด์ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํตํ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ถ์ด ์ด๋ ์์ ์์๋ ๋ ๋ฎ์ ์๋ณธ์์ต๋ฅ ๋ก ์ด์ํ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 15%๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฌ์ฑํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์ดํ์ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ์์ ์ธ๋ฐ, ๋น์ฐํ ๋ ๋์ ์์น๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ง ๋ฎ์์ง์ง๋ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Operator: Next question comes from Ken Usdin of Autonomous Research. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Autonomous Research์ Ken Usdin์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Kenneth Michael Usdin: Just one more question on capital. Given what all you just said, Charlie, and that we still have now a really big amount of capital. The buyback in the second quarter was a little smaller than the first and loan growth, as you said, looks like it's getting better, but not that quickly. So should we -- can we expect that you might do more in terms of the buyback in advance of kind of getting that final zone of where you want to live given that you just -- it seems like you have enough capacity to do kind of all things you would want to do in terms of growing the balance sheet and also returning more? | **Kenneth Michael Usdin:** ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ด์ฉ๊ณผ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ ์๋ณธ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์๋ณธ์ ๋ํด ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ด 1๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค ์ฝ๊ฐ ์ค์๊ณ , ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ๋์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋น ๋ฅด์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ์ต์ข ๋ชฉํ ๊ตฌ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ธฐ ์ ์ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ๋ ๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํด๋ ๋ ๊น์? ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๋ณธ ํ์ ๋ฑ ์ํ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์? |
Charles W. Scharf: Yes. Listen, I don't think we want to give a specific forecast on how much we intend to do. But to your point, we have more capacity, not less capacity. The price of the stock does matter. And so we'll be thinking about that. And I think we'll go from there. But I think we -- how do I describe -- I guess I would say we don't -- on the one hand, we don't feel like we need to deploy all of this capital immediately because we do want to have the opportunity to use the balance sheet to grow and do interesting things. But I've also said that we don't intend to do anything dramatic. And so that does create more opportunity to buy stock back. But again, the way we're thinking about it is we want to first use the capital that we have to grow the company organically. That's what allows us to produce the right kind of returns. It allows us to create the ability to increase the dividend and buying stock back is kind of what we're left with. So what we hope the answer is and what certainly seems like is we'll have the ability to do all of those things. to a greater extent than we've been able to do in the past, and we'll just be very -- hopefully be very thoughtful about the timing. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ๋ค, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ง์ ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฉ๋์ด ์ค์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์๋๋ผ ๋ ๋์ด๋ฌ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฃผ๊ฐ๋ ์ค์ํ ๊ณ ๋ ค์ฌํญ์ด๊ณ ์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ ๋ค์ ์ผ๋์ ๋๊ณ ์งํํ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ํด์ผ ํ ๊น์. ํํธ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์๋ณธ์ ์ฆ์ ํฌ์ ํด์ผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํด์ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ก์ด ์ผ๋ค์ ํ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ํ์ง๋ง ๋์์ ๊ทน์ ์ธ ์กฐ์น๋ ์ทจํ์ง ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ๊ธฐํ๋ ๋ ๋ง์์ง๋ ์ ์ด์ฃ . ๋ค์ ๋งํ์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์๊ฐํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ณด์ ํ ์๋ณธ์ ๋จผ์ ํ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ์ ํ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ฃผ๋ ์์์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐฐ๋น์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ง๋ค์ด์ฃผ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋จ์ ์ ํ์ง๋ผ๊ณ ํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๋ ๋ต์ด์ ํ์คํ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ณด์ด๋ ๊ฒ์, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ก ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์คํํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ํ์ด๋ฐ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Kenneth Michael Usdin: Got it. And on one of -- you've laid out all the organic potentials in the past, but the one I wanted to ask you specific about is on retail deposits, where there's obviously a strong competitive landscape and a lot of banks still building branches in other territories. You've talked about how that consent order coming off last year has helped you kind of just go to market in a broader sense. But like how will that manifest itself in terms of just retail deposit growth? Can you see -- do you expect an acceleration there in either net new checking or just overall deposit growth taking on the retail side? | **Kenneth Michael Usdin:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ง๋ง, ํน๋ณํ ๋ฆฌํ ์ผ ์๊ธ์ ๋ํด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ์น์ดํ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด๊ณ ๋ง์ ์ํ๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง์ญ์ ์ง์ ์ ํ์ฅํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ ์ ๋์๋ช ๋ น์ด ํด์ ๋๋ฉด์ ๋ณด๋ค ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ์์ฅ ์ง์ถ์ ๋์์ด ๋์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฆฌํ ์ผ ์๊ธ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ ๊น์? ์ ๊ท ๋น์ข๊ณ์ข ์์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์๋๋ฉด ๋ฆฌํ ์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์๊ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด๋ ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ ์ ์์๊น์? |
Charles W. Scharf: Sure. Yes. I mean, yes, I mean, I think the answer is, as I said, I think it just -- a little bit if you go back for a second is when we had the sales practices consent order, it was specifically driven by some of the things that happened in those businesses. And so we had to be very, very careful about what we did. We scaled back an awful lot of stuff, which stood in the way of our ability to grow. And then even as that order came off, recognizing we had a deposit cap -- well, I'm sorry, an asset cap, which effectively can be a deposit cap, we were -- even though we were adding back some of the things that would actually help us grow quicker, we were very careful about not doing too much too quickly because when you have a constraint, you just don't want to bump up against that constraint. So the activities that we've kind of reinstated inside the consumer business have to do with reporting. They have to do with the way we manage the business. They have to do with the way we pay people. And so you're starting to see increased net checking account growth. We're focused on primary checking account growth. That should and we believe will lead to higher deposits. That what you'll see is you're going to see more marketing, you're going to see more aggressive marketing. You're going to see more merchandising in our branches. You're going to see more local advertising as well as national advertising as well as just expansion of footprint in areas where we think we have room to grow. And so those are all things that we have been very, very cautious about doing up till now. And with the value proposition that we have for our customers and the strength of the brand and the great quality of the people here, we think we'll be able to compete very effectively. And I remind people, we're not competing with a small number of banks. We're competing with a lot of banks out there that we believe we have a better value proposition for. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ๋ต๋ณ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋๋ก ์ ์ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋์๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์
๊ดํ ๋์๋ช
๋ น(sales practices consent order)์ ๋ฐ์์ ๋ ๊ทธ ์ฌ์
๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ฌธ์ ๋ค์ด ์ง์ ์ ์ธ ์์ธ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ํฌ๋ ํ๋์ ๋งค์ฐ, ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํด์ผ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ถ์ํ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ํฌ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฑธ๋ฆผ๋์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ ๋ช
๋ น์ด ํด์ ๋ ํ์๋, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์๊ธ ํ๋๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ์์ฐ ํ๋(asset cap)์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฌ์ค์ ์๊ธ ํ๋๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋์์ด ๋ ์ ์๋ ์ผ๋ถ ํ๋๋ค์ ๋ค์ ์ถ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ , ๋๋ฌด ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ฌด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ํ์ง ์๋๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฝ์ด ์์ ๋๋ ๊ทธ ์ ์ฝ์ ๋ถ๋ชํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์๋น์ ์ฌ์ ๋ด์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ฐํ ํ๋๋ค์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ด๋ฆฌํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์๊ณ , ์ง์๋ค์๊ฒ ๋ณด์ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ๋ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋น์ข์๊ธ ๊ณ์ข์ ์์ฆ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋์ด๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋ ๋น์ข์๊ธ ๊ณ์ข ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ ๋์ ์๊ธ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ง์ผํ , ๋ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ๋ง์ผํ ์ ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง์ ์์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋จธ์ฒ๋ค์ด์ง์ ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ์ ๊ตญ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ง์ญ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ฌ์ง๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ ์ง์ญ์์์ ์ฌ์ ์์ญ ํ์ฅ๋ ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํด์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์๊ณผ ๋ธ๋๋์ ๊ฐ์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๊ธฐ ์๋ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ธ์ฌ๋ค์ ํ์ง์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฝ์ํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋๋ค์๊ฒ ์๊ธฐ์์ผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์, ์ ํฌ๋ ์์์ ์ํ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ณด๋ค ๋์ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ฏฟ๋ ์๋ง์ ์ํ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Ebrahim Poonawala of Bank of America. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฑ ํฌ ์ค๋ธ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด์ ์๋ธ๋ผํ ํธ๋์๋ผ๊ฐ ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Ebrahim Huseini Poonawala: I just wanted to follow up, Charlie, on what you said in terms of -- in one of your responses around nothing is going to change dramatically. 15% ROTCE was like step #1, which you were at 2Q again, just 1 quarter, I appreciate that. But I think the last half full way to look at this, you mentioned the word grow aggressively many, many times on the call. And I think the concern from an investor standpoint is a lot of this growth may come from -- at the cost of ROTCE. I don't think that's what you're saying, but just give us a sense of the lens with which you're looking at these growth, be it on consumer deposits, commercial deposits. Could it be that we could see a near-term hit in terms of profitability before things pick up and you gain more wallet share? Just how should we think about the impact on the next 6, 12, 18 months of returns? And are there offsetting factors on the expense side or productivity side that could mitigate things that you do to pursue growth? | **Ebrahim Huseini Poonawala:** ์ฐฐ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ํด ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ต๋ณ ์ค์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ์
จ๋๋ฐ์. 15% ROTCE(์ ํ์๋ณธ์์ต๋ฅ )๊ฐ 1๋จ๊ณ์๊ณ , 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์
จ์ฃ . ๋ฌผ๋ก ํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๊ด์ ์์, ํตํ ์ค์ '๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅ'์ด๋ผ๋ ํํ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ ์ฌ์ฉํ์
จ์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ์์ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ฐ๋ ค๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ROTCE๋ฅผ ํฌ์์ํค๋ ๋๊ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์๋ฏธ๋ก ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์ง๋ง, ์๋น์ ์๊ธ์ด๋ ์์ ์๊ธ์ด๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณด๋ ๊ด์ ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ํฉ์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์ง๊ฐ ์ ์ ์จ์ ๋ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ์ ์ ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ต์ฑ์ ํ๊ฒฉ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์ง์? ํฅํ 6๊ฐ์, 12๊ฐ์, 18๊ฐ์ ๋์์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ์ํฅ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ถ์งํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ทจํ๋ ์กฐ์น๋ค์ ์ํํ ์ ์๋ ๋น์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด๋ ์์ฐ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์์ ์์ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์์๊น์? |
Charles W. Scharf: Yes. No, thank you for the question. I mean we don't mean to imply at all that we will sacrifice returns for growth. As we do all of our planning and we think about the opportunities, we think the things that we're going to do to grow the company will actually be very focused on continuing to increase the returns that we have. So please don't take anything that we've said as anything under that other than we continue to be very focused on those 2 things. You do raise the question about expenses. We do point out in the remarks that we made that we continue to be very, very focused on using the expense resource that we have as wisely as we can. And so that means that we are still focused on continuing to drive efficiencies in the company. And as we've done up till now, hope to be able to use a material part of the efficiencies that we continue to drive in the company as a way to pay for a lot of the investments that we intend to make. But that is very consistent with what we've done. So even as we've increased marketing spend, we've increased the number of hires that we have in the Corporate Investment Bank. We've increased the hires in the commercial bank. We've increased the number of bankers that we've had in the consumer business. We've increased the number of financial advisers that we have. We haven't stood up and say that those things are dilutive to returns. It's just the opposite. We've been able to do those things because we're driving efficiency elsewhere in the company, and those things will drive increased revenue over a period of time and ultimately higher returns. And so we're continuing to think about those things the exact same way we've been thinking about them. And I would just say that we -- as I've said every quarter, including, I think we said it on the last quarter, we continue to feel like there are significant opportunities to drive efficiencies in the company, both traditionally and through technology, including AI. And the only thing I'll just make sure we're clear on is, yes, we had 15% ROTCE in the quarter, but we also recognize that we had the gain in our Merchant Services business. So we don't really think about that as ongoing. So we would say it's still a little bit lower. Even though we were running capital levels at the -- before the SCB adjustment was put in place. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ์ง๋ฌธํด ์ฃผ์
์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ํฌ์ํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์๋ฏธ๋ ์ ํ ์๋๋๋ค. ๋ชจ๋ ๊ณํ์ ์๋ฆฝํ๊ณ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฒํ ํ ๋, ํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ์ถ์งํ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ด ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๋ ๋ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์๋ฏธ๋ก ๋ฐ์๋ค์ด์ง ๋ง์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ชจ๋์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ํ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ๊ธฐํด ์ฃผ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ์ง์ ํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด ๋ณด์ ํ ๋น์ฉ ์์์ ์ต๋ํ ํ๋ช ํ๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ด ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์๋ฏธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ํด์๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ, ํ์ฌ์์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์๋ ํจ์จ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ณํํ๊ณ ์๋ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ถฉ๋นํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํด์จ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ๋งค์ฐ ์ผ์นํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผํ ์ง์ถ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์์ํ(Corporate Investment Bank)์์ ์ฑ์ฉ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์์ ์ํ์์ ์ฑ์ฉ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์๋น์ ์ฌ์ ์์ ๋ฑ ์ปค ์๋ฅผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ธ์ต ์ด๋๋ฐ์ด์ ์๋ฅผ ๋๋ ค์์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ํฌ์์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ ์ ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์คํ๋ ค ์ ๋ฐ๋์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ผ๋ค์ ํ ์ ์์๋ ์ด์ ๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ด ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋์ด๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ๋ค์ด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ ๋์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค์ค ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ํด ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ์๊ฐํด์๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋๊ฐ์ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํด ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ AI๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํตํด ํ์ฌ ๋ด์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋์ผ ์ ์๋ ์๋นํ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ช ํํ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์, ๋ค, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 15%์ ROTCE(์ ํ์๊ธฐ์๋ณธ์ด์ต๋ฅ )๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋จธ์ฒํธ ์๋น์ค ์ฌ์ ์์ ๋ฐ์ํ ์ด์ต๋ ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฌ์ ํ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. SCB ์กฐ์ ์ด ์ํ๋๊ธฐ ์ ์์ค์์ ์๋ณธ ๋น์จ์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
Ebrahim Huseini Poonawala: Got it. And maybe a separate question, Mike, for you in terms of NII, the market's view on what the Fed might do keeps changing. I appreciate that. But remind us in terms of asset sensitivity as we put into context like the sequential growth in NII in the back half and maybe into next year. But how should we think about what 3 or 4 rate cuts would do to the balance sheet and the ability to maybe offset that given the growth outlook that you have assumed? | **Ebrahim Huseini Poonawala:** ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ดํฌ, NII ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ณ๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์๋๋ฐ์, ์ฐ์ค์ด ๋ฌด์์ ํ ์ง์ ๋ํ ์์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌํด๊ฐ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์ ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์์ฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐ๋ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋ด๋ ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๋ NII์ ์์ฐจ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์์ ํ์ ํ ๋ ์๊ธฐ์์ผ ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 3-4ํ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ธํ๊ฐ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ์ ๋ฏธ์น ์ํฅ๊ณผ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์์ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. Look, I mean, we're -- we look at the implied forwards and what the market is pricing in on cuts, obviously. And so that's all sort of embedded in sort of the view of where NII is sort of trending as we look into the latter part of the year. And obviously, even with that, you're still going to -- you're going to see pricing come down on the deposit side and the commercial businesses. You're going to see continued repricing on the fixed asset components of the balance sheet. And then you're going to see hopefully start to see some more growth come out of it that will also help from an NII perspective. And so all those things will -- should be constructive as you look forward despite what could be rates coming down a little. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ด์ฌ๋ ์ ๋๊ธ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ฅ์ด ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ธํ์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ์ฑ
์ ํ๊ณ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ๋น์ฐํ ์ดํด๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์ฐ๋ง๋ก ๊ฐ์๋ก ์์ด์์์ต(NII)์ด ์ด๋ค ๋ฐฉํฅ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ฌ๊ฐ์ง์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ฐ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ํฉ์์๋ ์๊ธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์์ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค์์๋ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ์ด ํ๋ฝํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ์ ๊ณ ์ ์์ฐ ๊ตฌ์ฑ์์๋ค์์๋ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฌ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ ์. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฐ๋ผ๊ฑด๋ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ํ ๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒ ๋ํ NII ๊ด์ ์์ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฝํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ , ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์์๋ค์ด ์์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Matt O'Connor of Deutsche Bank. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋์ด์น๋ฑ ํฌ์ Matt O'Connor๊ฐ ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Matthew Derek O'Connor: I was hoping you could just provide some clarity on the net interest income ex markets this quarter. I was having a hard time finding that. And then maybe just give the guidance or comments on kind of the full year guide on NII ex markets, just to clarify. | **Matthew Derek O'Connor:** ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ์ธํ ์์ด์์์ต(NII ex markets)์ ๋ํด ๋ช ํํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ํด๋น ์์น๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋ ค์ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ์ธํ ์์ด์์์ต์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ ๊ด๋ จ ์ฝ๋ฉํธ๋ ๋ช ํํ ํด์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. We don't break out the components in total across markets versus non-markets. That's not something we've historically done. I think when you look under what's happening in the NII ex markets, there's lots of puts and takes across the balance sheet. I think if you look at the kind of rates in general are sort of about kind of what we expected, plus or minus a little bit, like so that's -- the change in rates that we've seen throughout the year is not impacting sort of our guide really in any significant way. You've seen slightly higher payment rates in places like credit cards. So that's probably muting balances there just a little bit as well as some other factors there. And so loan growth, depending on the outside of card has been a little bit slower. Deposits are sort of mostly behaving the way we thought. We're not seeing any significant -- or we're seeing really the trends of any cash rebalancing into higher yields has sort of been stable now for a bit for a number of quarters. And so we're not seeing that change in any significant way. And so I'd say, overall, the trends are ex markets are pretty stable to what we've seen over the last couple of quarters and largely consistent with what we've expected to see with a few puts and takes across the different portfolios. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๋น๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์๋ฅผ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ธ๋ถํํด์ ๊ณต๊ฐํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ถํฐ ํด์ค์ง ์๋ ๋ฐฉ์์
๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ์ธํ ์์ด์์์ต(NII ex markets)์์ ์ผ์ด๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋ค์ํ ์์น ์์ธ๊ณผ ํ๋ฝ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ํฉ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ์์ค๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋น์ทํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ๋ฌ์ค ๋ง์ด๋์ค ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ์ ์์ง๋ง์. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฌํด ๋ด๋ด ๋ณด์์จ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์ ํฌ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ํฐ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น์ง๋ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ๊ฐ์ ๋ถ์ผ์์๋ ์ํ์จ์ด ์ฝ๊ฐ ๋์์ง ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ก ์ธํด ํด๋น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ก์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ์ต์ ๋๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ธ๋ค๋ ์์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์นด๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ์ธํ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๋ค์ ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์๊ธ์ ๋์ฒด๋ก ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์์ง์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํน๋ณํ ๋ณํ๋ ๋ณด์ด์ง ์๊ณ ์๊ณ ์. ๋ ๋์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ฐพ์ ํ๊ธ์ ์ฌ๋ฐฐ์นํ๋ ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์ง๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ํฐ ๋ณํ๋ ๋ณด์ด์ง ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฅ ์์ธ์ ์ ์ธํ๋ฉด ์ถ์ธ๋ ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋ด์๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์๋นํ ์์ ์ ์ด๊ณ , ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋์ฒด๋ก ์ผ์นํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ๊ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์์ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ถ์นจ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Matthew Derek O'Connor: Okay. That's helpful. And I'm sure you guys have heard it before, but just as you're growing the trading business, I think the clarity on the trading NII over time would be helpful. And then just separately, I wanted to ask about the lower tax rate this quarter and somewhat related, just the impact of the new legislation reducing clean energy tax credits. I think there's some kind of puts and takes there as we think about some stuff going away and some stuff that you might be able to do that you're not doing now. So just a broader tax this quarter and going forward. | **Matthew Derek O'Connor:** ๋ค, ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ค์ผ์
จ๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ํธ๋ ์ด๋ฉ ์ฌ์
์ ํ์ฅํ์๋ฉด์ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ํธ๋ ์ด๋ฉ NII(์์ด์์์ต)์ ๋ํ ๋ช
ํ์ฑ์ ์ ๊ณตํด์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ณ๊ฐ๋ก, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฎ์์ง ์ธ์จ๊ณผ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์๋ ์ฒญ์ ์๋์ง ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ๋ฅผ ์ค์ด๋ ์๋ก์ด ๋ฒ์์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ด์ง๋ ๊ฒ๋ค๊ณผ ํ์ฌ ํ์ง ์๊ณ ์์ง๋ง ํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค ์ฌ์ด์ ์ด๋ค ์์ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ธ์จ๊ณผ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. On the last piece, on the tax credits, that will be a few years out before you see anything -- any real impact on that in terms of new projects that will come on. So it will be a little bit -- it will be a while before you start to see that matter much. The broader bill doesn't have a lot of direct impacts relative to taxes other than the tax credit piece, a few small things. I think just more broadly on the tax line, there's always puts and takes on tax line given how big we are. There was a few things in the quarter that probably brought the tax line a little bit -- the tax rate down a little bit lower than what you see over a longer time period, including a California tax change that sort of changed the way they do revenue attribution and a few other sort of wonky items that sort of change it. And so our view on the tax rate over a longer period of time is still kind of high teens tax rate is sort of probably the right place given what we see over a longer period of time. But there always seems to be stuff in each quarter that sort of changes that a little bit. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ถ๋ถ์ธ ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ค์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ์์๋์ด ์ค์ง์ ์ธ ์ํฅ์ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๊น์ง๋ ๋ช ๋
์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ์ค์ํ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๋ ค๋ฉด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ข ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ๋ฒ์์ ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ์ ์ธํ๊ณ ๋ ์ธ๊ธ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ง์ ์ ์ธ ์ํฅ์ด ๋ง์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ธ๊ธ ํญ๋ชฉ์ ๋ํด ๋ ํญ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ์๋ ํฌ๋ค ๋ณด๋ ์ธ๊ธ ๋ผ์ธ์๋ ํญ์ ํ๋ฌ์ค ์์ธ๊ณผ ๋ง์ด๋์ค ์์ธ์ด ํจ๊ป ์กด์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ์ธ์จ์ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฎ์ถ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์บ๋ฆฌํฌ๋์ ์ธ๋ฒ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ์ผ๋ก ์์ต ๊ท์ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ๋ฐ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ณต์กํ ํญ๋ชฉ๋ค์ด ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์ณค์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ธ์จ์ ์ฌ์ ํ 10๋ ํ๋ฐ ์ ๋๊ฐ ์ ์ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ์ด๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ๋ณํ์ํค๋ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ํญ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Erika Najarian of UBS. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ UBS์ ์๋ฆฌ์นด ๋์๋ฆฌ์์๊ฒ์ ๋์ฌ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
Erika Najarian: I wanted to ask another question about capital, Charlie. Everyone appreciates that the regulatory reform is in flux. You mentioned earlier an 8.6% minimum on CET1 and your current CET1 level implies a 140 basis point minimum to that 9.7%. I'm just wondering, as we think about where you should operate going forward, are you saying that you want to take the time to make sure that, that 8.5% is something that is a little bit sustainable if we get GCIB reform, if we get more comprehensive stress test reform? And if that's the case, is 140 basis points still an appropriate buffer, which would imply that your sort of minimum buffer would be about 10%. | **Erika Najarian:** ์๋ณธ์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค, ์ฐฐ๋ฆฌ. ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค์ด ๊ท์ ๊ฐํ์ด ์ ๋์ ์ธ ์ํฉ์์ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ญ๋๋ค. ์์ CET1 ์ต์ ๋น์จ 8.6%๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ํ์ฌ CET1 ์์ค์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ 9.7%๊น์ง ์ต์ 140bp์ ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ค ์์ค์์ ์ด์ํด์ผ ํ๋์ง ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, GCIB ๊ฐํ์ด๋ ๋ณด๋ค ํฌ๊ด์ ์ธ ์คํธ๋ ์ค ํ ์คํธ ๊ฐํ์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๊ทธ 8.5%๊ฐ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์ง์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ์์ค์ธ์ง ํ์ธํ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ๋ค๋ ๋ง์์ด์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด, 140bp๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ ์ ํ ์์ถฉ ๊ตฌ๊ฐ์ธ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ ์ต์ ์์ถฉ ๊ตฌ๊ฐ์ด ์ฝ 10% ์ ๋๊ฐ ๋์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์๋ฏธ์ธ์ง์? |
Charles W. Scharf: So listen, I think I tried to answer this before. I think the way -- so we're in a period of time where we have seen over a 13-month period, we've seen our capital requirement go up like 100 -- how much should it go up, 90 basis. 190 basis -- 90 basis points. And then we saw it come down 120 basis points. The Fed has said that we're going to give you more information, which would be super helpful to us so that we can understand what the future volatility looks like. One would presume that with this administration and the types of things that they're saying that the lower level is probably more indicative of what the future would look like rather than the higher level. But we just don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to come and say, well, here's how we're going to -- here's a number that we're going to run with capital until we avail ourselves of the information that they tell us they're going to give us. So trying to -- directionally, lower is the direction we're going, but we don't want it to be a moving target every quarter where we tell you something different. We don't think that's like the right way to provide the kind of information to you that we should be providing. So we just want to take that time to understand what the right level is. And we will also be thinking about other changes that they're making and any other changes to these moving pieces, what the right buffer will be. But directionally, lower is certainly where things are going. But we don't know enough to actually tell you what that number should be yet. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋๋ฐ, ํ์ฌ ์ํฉ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด 13๊ฐ์ ๋์ ์๋ณธ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ด 90bp ์ ๋ ์์นํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์ 120bp ํ๋ฝํ์ฃ . ์ฐ์ค์์๋ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ํฅํ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ด ์ด๋จ์ง ์ดํดํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ ํ์ ๋ถ์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ๋งํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ ์ฑ ๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด, ์๋ง๋ ๋์ ์์ค๋ณด๋ค๋ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ด ๋ฏธ๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋ ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ์งํ๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ท์ ๋น๊ตญ์ด ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ํ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ์ ์ ์ฑ๊ธํ๊ฒ ๋์์ "์๋ณธ์ผ๋ก ์ด ์์น๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์ด์ํ๊ฒ ๋ค"๊ณ ๋งํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณ๋ก ์๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐฉํฅ์ฑ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ฎ์์ง๋ ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ๋ฉด์ ๊ณ์ ๋ณ๋ํ๋ ๋ชฉํ์น๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ฌ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์ง ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ์ ์์ค์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ํ์ ํ ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๊ท์ ๋น๊ตญ์ด ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ์๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ณํ๋ค๊ณผ ์ด๋ฐ ๋ณ๋ ์์๋ค์ ๋ํ ๊ธฐํ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํด์ ์ ์ ํ ์์ถฉ์ฅ์น(buffer)๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง๋ ๊ฒํ ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ฐฉํฅ์ฑ์ผ๋ก๋ ํ์คํ ๋ฎ์์ง๋ ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์น๊ฐ ์ด๋ ์ ๋๊ฐ ๋์ด์ผ ํ๋์ง๋ ์์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ๋งํผ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ํ์ ํ์ง ๋ชปํ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: And the good news is, right, we have a ton of excess capital. We have more flexibility to deploy it to help support clients and the broader economy here, right? And so that should give us more opportunity to use it. And then we'll bring it down. And I think we've shown over the last 5 years that we are not shy about returning capital back to shareholders through buybacks when we feel that's appropriate. And so hopefully, we can let's see that come through over the quarters. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ์ข์ ์์์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ฒญ๋ ์์ฌ์๋ณธ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๋ ๋ฐ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ด ๋ ๋ง์์ก์ฃ . ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ๋๊ฐ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 5๋ ๊ฐ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ ์ ํ๋ค๊ณ ํ๋จ๋ ๋ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ํตํด ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์๋ณธ์ ํ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ฃผ์ ํ์ง ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ณด์ฌ๋๋ ธ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด๋ฐ ๋ชจ์ต๋ค์ด ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. |
Charles W. Scharf: We live in like a really -- I mean, for us, like this is an incredibly interesting and fun time. I mean we're sitting here where even with the constraints that we've had, I think we've like started to show that the things that we're doing have the ability to drive higher revenues across the company regardless of what's happened in the NII cycle. So we spent a lot of time talking about the things that we've been doing to focus on growing noninterest revenues, which have been -- which we've been doing because there're strategic opportunities, not just because of the balance sheet. So those strategic opportunities haven't changed, and those will continue to be there for us. So we're still incredibly focused on increasing the noninterest revenues of the company as we've seen we've been able to do. We're starting to see some loan growth. Yes, the loan growth hasn't turned out this year to be as much as we otherwise would have hoped when we first set our targets, our guidance. But overall, where we sit today and the types of things that we're seeing is certainly marginally better than what we had seen in terms of what we're seeing. We're starting to see deposit flows, as we've talked about. We've got new account growth. We've got expenses in check. Credit is performing well. We've got more capital than we had the last time we had the conversation. We have less constraints. So for us, as we sit here, even though there's a lot of work for us to do, and we've got a lot to prove, we understand that. Those things all line up to be pretty exciting for the management team here. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ์ ๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฏธ์๋ ์๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ ์ฝ์ด ์์์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ , ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ฌ์
๋ค์ด NII ์ฌ์ดํด์์ ์ผ์ด๋ ์ผ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ด๊ณ์์ด ํ์ฌ ์ ์ฒด์ ์์ต์ ์ฆ๋์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ด์์์ต(noninterest revenues) ์ฆ๋์ ์ง์คํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํด์จ ์ผ๋ค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํ ์ ํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๋จ์ํ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ๋๋ฌธ์ด ์๋๋ผ ์ ๋ต์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ถ์งํด์จ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๋ต์ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ ๋ณํ์ง ์์๊ณ , ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ํ์ฌ์ ๋น์ด์์์ต(noninterest revenues) ์ฆ๋์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ฌํด ๋์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ด ์ฒ์ ๋ชฉํ์ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ค์ ํ์ ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๋ ๋งํผ์ ๋์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ฒํ ์ํฉ๊ณผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์งํ๋ค์ ์ด์ ์ ๋ดค๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค๋ ํ์คํ ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด ์๊ธ ํ๋ฆ๋ ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ข ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์๊ณ , ๋น์ฉ๋ ํต์ ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ๋ ์ํธํ๊ฒ ์ด์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋๋ฒ ๋ ผ์ํ์ ๋๋ณด๋ค ์๋ณธ๋ ๋ ๋ง์์ก๊ณ , ์ ์ฝ ์์ธ๋ค๋ ์ค์ด๋ค์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ ์ ์ฅ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํด์ผ ํ ์ผ์ด ๋ง๊ณ ์ฆ๋ช ํด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ๋ค๋ ๋ง๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ๊ฒฝ์์ง์๊ฒ๋ ์๋นํ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง์งํ ๊ธฐํ๋ก ๋ค๊ฐ์ค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Betsy Graseck of Morgan Stanley. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ชจ๊ฑด์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฒ ์น ๊ทธ๋์น์ด ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Betsy Lynn Graseck: Charlie, I had a question about just how you're thinking about the arc of expenses over the next period of time, call it, a year or 2. With the asset cap removal, underlying question is, are there efficiencies that can be generated from investments you had to make that were unique to the asset cap period? And if so, with those efficiencies, is there reinvesting in everything you just mentioned on headcount to drive revenues? Or is there a technology angle to some of this reinvestment that we should be expecting? And how are you positioned for generating efficiencies from AI? | **Betsy Lynn Graseck:** ์์ฐ ํ๋ ํด์ ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ํฅํ 1-2๋ ๊ฐ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ถ์ด์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ง๋ฌธ์, ์์ฐ ํ๋ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ํน๋ณํ ํด์ผ ํ๋ ํฌ์๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋์ง ์ฌ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์ํ์ ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ถฉ์์ ์ฌํฌ์ํด์ ๋งค์ถ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ ๊ฑด์ง์? ์๋๋ฉด ์ด๋ฐ ์ฌํฌ์์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์๋ ๊ฑด์ง์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ AI๋ก๋ถํฐ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด์๋ ์ด๋ค ํฌ์ง์ ์ ์์ผ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
Charles W. Scharf: Sure. Let me start, Mike, and then you pick up because I'd be getting all the questions here. So first of all, on the question of expenses related directly to the asset cap, we would -- the way -- so first of all, it's important to point out that the consent order that had the asset cap is still in place. And just as a reminder, for those that haven't followed as closely as we do, the asset cap gets lifted when we adopt and implement a series of things and then the full order gets lifted when the regulators view it as effective and sustainable. We obviously feel really good about the progress that we're making. We feel very comfortable that we're getting there. But until that order is lifted, we've got to be very, very careful about just changing anything because of the plans that we put in place and the way we and the regulators go about validation. So we're not assuming that there are -- that anything materially changes up to this point until that, that happens. And even then we'll be very, very careful. So as we think about the opportunities to drive efficiency, when we talk about the fact that there are still substantial opportunities away from our ability to just do things more efficiently from a risk and control perspective. And so we're continuing to focus on driving those things across the company. It's what you've seen kind of quarter-on-quarter- on-quarter is our headcount has come down, using attrition as much as we can as our friend to create those efficiencies. And yes, technology will be able to help that trajectory continue even more. We want to be careful about giving any long-term guidance beyond this year on expenses, which is why we've stopped because as we've said very consistently, we really like the idea of going through the planning cycle, being able to take a look at what we want to invest in, what we think we can drive in terms of efficiencies and then give a number. But I would say the same thing that we said is similar to the question that Ebrahim was asking before. We're very, very conscious of the fact that expenses are an important lever for us for us to be able to increase the returns for the company. And so hopeful we'll be able to create the right kind of balance by increasing the level of investments while we're keeping expenses in check and focus on not just driving more growth, but driving higher returns in the shorter and medium term as we've tried to do up until now. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ๋ค, ์ ๊ฐ ๋จผ์ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ดํฌ๊ฐ ์ด์ด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ชจ๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ผ๋๊น์. ๋จผ์ ์์ฐ ํ๋์ ์ง์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ํ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ถํฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์์ฐ ํ๋๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋ ๋์๋ช
๋ น(consent order)์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ์ ํจํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋จผ์ ์ง์ ํด์ผ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋งํผ ๋ฉด๋ฐํ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณด์ง ์์ผ์ ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ํด ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์์ฐ ํ๋๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ผ๋ จ์ ์กฐ์น๋ค์ ์ฑํํ๊ณ ์ดํํ ๋ ํด์ ๋๊ณ , ์ ์ฒด ๋ช ๋ น์ ๊ท์ ๋น๊ตญ์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ด๊ณ ์ง์๊ฐ๋ฅํ๋ค๊ณ ํ๋จํ ๋ ํด์ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ์งํํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ง์ ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ชฉํ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ ๋ช ๋ น์ด ํด์ ๋ ๋๊น์ง๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์๋ฆฝํ ๊ณํ๊ณผ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ท์ ๋น๊ตญ์ด ๊ฒ์ฆ์ ์งํํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ค ๊ฒ์ด๋ ๋ณ๊ฒฝํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋งค์ฐ, ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์ด๋๊ธฐ ์ ๊น์ง๋ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณํํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ์ง ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์ด๋๋๋ผ๋ ๋งค์ฐ, ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ถ์งํ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํด ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ์ ํต์ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋จ์ํ ์ ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋ ํจ์จ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ๊ณผ๋ ๋ณ๊ฐ๋ก ์ฌ์ ํ ์๋นํ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ์ฌ์ค์ ๋ํด ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ์ค์ด๋ค๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ์์ฐ ๊ฐ์์ ํ์ฉํด์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ์ด๋ฐ ๊ถค๋๋ฅผ ๋์ฑ ๊ฐ์ํํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๋ฅผ ๋์ด์๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๋น์ฉ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ์ ๊ณต์ ์ค๋จํ ์ด์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ผ๊ด๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณํ ์๋ฆฝ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๊ฑฐ์ณ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๋ถ์ผ์ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ฒํ ํ ํ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์น๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ํธํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์์ ์๋ธ๋ผํ์ด ์ง๋ฌธํ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋น์ทํ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์์ ๊ฐ์ ๋ต๋ณ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ์ด ํ์ฌ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋์ด๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ์๋จ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋น์ฉ์ ํต์ ํ๋ฉด์ ํฌ์ ์์ค์ ๋๋ ค ์ ์ ํ ๊ท ํ์ ๋ง๋ค์ด๋ผ ์ ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋จ์ํ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ถ์งํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ, ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ํด์๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ๋จ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ค๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: And Betsy, I would just say from an AI perspective, it's very early to see any impact of any significance from AI, but we've got capabilities and pilots in our branch system and our ops system and our call centers really across anywhere where you've got anything manual and a lot of people. And those things are starting to mature a little bit, very early, but you're starting to see some of the benefit you thought you'd see in terms of efficiency start to come through in some of the early use cases, but it's super, super early, and I think the impact will build over time there. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** AI ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์์ง AI๋ก๋ถํฐ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์ํฅ์ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ด๋ฅธ ๋จ๊ณ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ์ง์ ์์คํ
, ์ด์ ์์คํ
, ์ฝ์ผํฐ ๋ฑ ์์์
์ด ๋ง๊ณ ์ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ง์ด ํฌ์
๋๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์์ญ์์ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ํ์ผ๋ฟ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ๋ค์ด ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ์ฑ์ํด์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ง์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ด์ง๋ง, ์ผ๋ถ ์ด๊ธฐ ์ฌ์ฉ ์ฌ๋ก์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๋ ํจ๊ณผ๋ค์ด ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ด๊ณ , ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ๊ทธ ์ํฅ์ด ์ ์ฐจ ํ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
Betsy Lynn Graseck: Okay. And I know you said that you would address the ROTCE target when you hit the 15%, which you did this quarter. So can you give us a sense of the timing when we should expect that you would be revisiting that target? | **Betsy Lynn Graseck:** ๋ค, 15% ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ฉด ROTCE(์ ํ์๋ณธ์์ต๋ฅ ) ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๊ฒํ ํ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ์ธ์ ์ฏค ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๊ฒํ ํ ์์ ์ธ์ง ์๊ธฐ์ ๋ํด ์๋ ค์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? |
Charles W. Scharf: So just as a reminder, the 15% that we reported this quarter did include the merchant services gain. So again, we try and be as transparent as we can and look through that and some stuff you saw in taxes. So we don't -- we're not declaring victory on getting to the 15% yet. And then maybe as we get towards the end of the year and we talk about next year, we'll talk a little bit more about the timing on those things and recognize that people want to understand a little bit more about how we're thinking about the future. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ํ 15%์๋ ๊ฐ๋งน์ ์๋น์ค ์ด์ต์ด ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ํญ์ ์ต๋ํ ํฌ๋ช
ํ๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ฐํ๋ ค๊ณ ๋
ธ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ ์ธ๊ธ ๊ด๋ จ ํญ๋ชฉ๋ค์ ์ ์ธํ๊ณ ๋ณด์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์์ง 15% ๋ฌ์ฑ์ ๋ํด ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ ์ธํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ง์ด ๋ค๊ฐ์ค๊ณ ๋ด๋ ์ ๋ํด ๋ ผ์ํ ๋๊ฐ ๋๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ํ์ด๋ฐ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฏธ๋์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋์ง ์ข ๋ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์ดํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Betsy Lynn Graseck: Super. So maybe the January call post the strategy, deck? | **Betsy Lynn Graseck:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. 1์ ์ฝ์์ ์ ๋ต ๋ฐํ ์ดํ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Charles W. Scharf: We'll see. We hear you though. | **Charles W. Scharf:** ์ง์ผ๋ด์ผ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๋ค์์ต๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from John Pancari of Evercore ISI. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Evercore ISI์ John Pancari๊ฐ ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
John G. Pancari: Just wanted to see if you can give us a little bit more color on the loan yields this quarter. It looks like they were relatively flat. But I guess, overall, would have expected an increase given some of the front book, back book dynamics. So can you maybe talk us through some of the puts and takes and your expectation as you look out given the rate environment and the curve outlook as well? | **John G. Pancari:** ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ถ ์์ต๋ฅ (loan yields)์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ํํํ ์์ค์ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํ๋ก ํธ๋ถ๊ณผ ๋ฐฑ๋ถ ์ญํ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ์์ํ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ณ , ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ํ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ์์ต๋ฅ ๊ณก์ ์ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์ํ์ ๋ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํ ๊ฒฌํด๋ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. I mean when you look at spreads, particularly on the commercial side, John, it's still very competitive. And so there's been a couple of spots where you see a little bit of widening of spreads, but not a lot. In most cases, what's holding spreads to be as tight as they are is really the competition we're seeing across the space, particularly in the middle market commercial banking side of things. And so that's what's driving it when you look at that side of the house. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ์คํ๋ ๋๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํนํ ์์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์น์ดํฉ๋๋ค. ์คํ๋ ๋๊ฐ ์ฝ๊ฐ ํ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ๋ช ๊ตฐ๋ฐ ์๊ธฐ๋ ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋ง์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ์คํ๋ ๋๊ฐ ํ์ฌ์ฒ๋ผ ํ์ดํธํ๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์ ์์ญ์์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒฝ์ ๋๋ฌธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ํนํ ์ค๊ฐ์์ฅ ์์ ์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ์ชฝ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ๋์ธ์ด ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
John G. Pancari: And did that competition intensify to a greater degree than you may have thought? It seems like a higher loan yield expectation would have been fair to assume. | **John G. Pancari:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ฌํ๋์๋์? ๋ ๋์ ๋์ถ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ํฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: No, it's been pretty consistent now for a number of quarters, right? It ebbs and flows a little bit depending on which part of the country or which segment you may be talking about. But it's been -- the competition has been pretty intense there for a while. And so you're just not seeing sort of the widening that you might -- if in sort of a slowing economic environment, that's just not materializing that way. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ์๋์, ์ด๋ฏธ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๊ฝค ์ผ๊ด๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง์ญ์ด๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ณ๋์ ์์ง๋ง์. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๊ฝค ์ค๋ซ๋์ ์น์ดํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด ๋ํ๋๋ ์ํฉ์์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ ์ ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํ๋ ํ์์ ๋ํ๋์ง ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
John G. Pancari: Okay. And then my follow-up would be related to that, too. Like where are you seeing that competitive pressure come from? Is it private credit? Is it other types of nonbanks? We've heard some citing insurance players stepping up again in certain parts of real estate? Are there areas that you'd flag? And then has that impacted anything around loan growth expectations? | **John G. Pancari:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒฝ์ ์๋ ฅ์ด ์ด๋์ ์ค๊ณ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ชจ์ ์ฉ(private credit)์์ ์ค๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ํ์ ๋น์ํ๊ถ์์์ธ๊ฐ์? ์ผ๋ถ์์๋ ๋ณดํ์ฌ๋ค์ด ๋ถ๋์ฐ ํน์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ค์ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ๋๋ฐ์. ํน๋ณํ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ์์ญ์ด ์๋์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋์ง๋ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. I'd say still the primary competitor, particularly when you're talking about the middle market commercial bank or other banks. You certainly see other nonbank players at times in certain pieces of it, but the primary competitor still is other banks, and they vary depending on what part of the country you're in, obviously. But I think that's what's driving it mostly. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฃผ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ ์ค๊ฐ์์ฅ ์์ ์ํ์ด๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ํ๋ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ํน์ ์์ญ์์๋ ๋๋๋ก ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋น์ํ ํ๋ ์ด์ด๋ค๋ ๋ณด์ด์ง๋ง, ์ฃผ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ํ๋ค์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฐํ ๊ตญ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ ์ง์ญ์ ์๋๋์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๋ฌ๋ผ์ง์ฃ . ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฃผ๋ก ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
Operator: The next question will come from Gerard Cassidy of RBC Capital Markets. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ RBC ์บํผํธ ๋ง์ผ์ ์ ๋ผ๋ ์บ์๋๊ฐ ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Gerard Sean Cassidy: Mike, you talked about the growth in the commercial and industrial loans in the quarter. It was predominantly in the corporate and investment bank. Can you give us a little more color and insights into where you saw that in that segment of the commercial and industrial loan portfolio growth? | **Gerard Sean Cassidy:** ๋ง์ดํฌ, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ ๋ฐ ์ฐ์ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ฃผ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ํฌ์์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ํ๋ฌ๋ค๊ณ ํ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ฐ ์ฐ์ ๋์ถ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ฑ์ฅ์์ ํด๋น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ ์์ญ์์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์ จ๋์ง ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ๊ณผ ์ธ์ฌ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes, sure. It's across the board in a bunch of sectors, Gerard. But I'd say we're seeing growth in places like fund finance, which are our capital call facilities with big private equity firms. We're seeing -- we saw a little bit of growth in probably 3 or 4 sectors across the large corporate space, including TMT and industrials, health care. So a little bit across the board. You're also seeing some more asset- backed loan growth coming out of our markets business across whether it's mortgages or other types of collateral, a tiny bit of growth in prime brokerage. And so it really is sort of across the board in terms of a number of different areas within the Corporate Investment Bank. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์
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Gerard Sean Cassidy: Very good. And you guys have talked a lot about improving efficiencies and improving profitability with the asset gap being lifted. I got kind of a pivoting question. You talked about exiting the rail equipment leasing business, and you've exited other businesses over the years. Are there any other businesses left that are not meeting your internal profitability targets possibly that could enhance the longer-term profitability of the company? Or is this essentially for divesting of different segments? | **Gerard Sean Cassidy:** ๋งค์ฐ ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์์ฐ ํ๋(asset cap) ํด์ ๋ก ํจ์จ์ฑ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ด ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋๋ฐ, ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒ ๋ ์ฅ๋น ๋ฆฌ์ค ์ฌ์ ์์ ์ฒ ์ํ๋ค๊ณ ํ์ จ๊ณ , ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฌ์ ๋ค์์๋ ์ฒ ์ํ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ด๋ถ ์์ต์ฑ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ง ๋ชปํ๊ณ ์์ด์ ํ์ฌ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์์ต์ฑ ํฅ์์ ์ํด ๋งค๊ฐ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ์ ์๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฌ์ ๋ค์ด ๋จ์์๋์? ์๋๋ฉด ์ด์ ๋ค์ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ๋ณธ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ธ๊ฐ์? |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. The rail portfolio is really the last thing of any size. I mean we looked at the businesses a few years ago now and sort of have methodically sort of worked our way through each of them. And really, the rail portfolio is sort of the last of those. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, ์ฒ ๋ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋จ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ช ๋ ์ ์ ์ฌ์ ๋ค์ ๊ฒํ ํ์ ๋ ์ฒด๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋์ฉ ์งํํด์๋๋ฐ, ์ฒ ๋ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์ฌ์ค์ ๊ทธ ์ค ๋ง์ง๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
Operator: And the last question for today will come from Chris McGratty of KBW. | **Operator:** ์ค๋ ๋ง์ง๋ง ์ง๋ฌธ์ KBW์ Chris McGratty๋๊ป์ ํด์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Christopher Edward McGratty: Just on operating leverage a little bit more broadly. The markets feel better today, more optimism in markets, but certainly, we know that's fluid. I know you touched briefly on it, but just maybe unpacking the degree of confidence in the operating leverage over the medium term and then, I guess, both sides of it, the revenue and the expenses. | **Christopher Edward McGratty:** ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ํญ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์ด ๋ ๋์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ฅ์ ๋๊ด๋ก ์ด ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ณด์ด์ง๋ง, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ์ํฉ์ ์ ๋์ ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋ตํ๊ฒ ์ธ๊ธํ์ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ์ค๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง์ ๋ํ ํ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ฅผ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๊ณผ ๋น์ฉ, ์์ชฝ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Yes. Chris, I mean, look, I'd just come back to what we talked about a little bit earlier in the call. I think on the expense side, we feel as confident as we can be that there's a lot more to do on the efficiency side of it. And over the last 4 or 5 years, we've taken out $12 billion already. You've seen headcount come down by 20 consecutive quarters in a row. And so we're going to continue to focus on that. And it's how we start all of our conversations with the business leaders and our budgeting are each quarter, we go through it. And so I think there's more to do there really across almost every part of the company, and I think we'll continue to drive that the same way we've done that the last number of years. And look, I think on the revenue side, I'd just come back to the broader opportunity that we have to grow across each of the businesses. How that manifests itself in any given quarter is a little out of your control to some degree. And so given how markets can -- those 2 things together should provide growth and profitability and returns over the long run. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๋ค, Chris, ์์ ํตํ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋์๊ฐ๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํจ์จ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์์ด ํ ์ผ์ด ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 4-5๋
๊ฐ ์ด๋ฏธ 120์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ฐํ๊ณ , 20๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฐ์์ผ๋ก ์ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์
จ์ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ณ์ ์ง์คํ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ ๋ถ ๋ฆฌ๋๋ค๊ณผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ํ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ ์์ฐ ํธ์ฑ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ์ด๊ฒ๋ถํฐ ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์ ์ฌ์ง๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ํด์๋ ๋ฐฉ์๋๋ก ๊ณ์ ์ถ์งํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ ์๋ ๋ ํฐ ๊ธฐํ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํน์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ ์ง๋ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ํต์ ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์์๊ฐ ํจ๊ป ์์ฉํ๋ฉด ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Operator: And we have no more questions at this time. | **Operator:** ๋ ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Michael P. Santomassimo: Great. We appreciate the time and look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you. | **Michael P. Santomassimo:** ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์๊ฐ์ ๋ด์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ง๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
Operator: Thank you all for your participation on today's conference call. At this time, all participants may disconnect. | **Operator:** ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฐธ๊ฐ์๋ถ๋ค๊ป์๋ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์ข ๋ฃํ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:
โข ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ ๋ง:
- NII (์์ด์์ด์ต)๋ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์ ์๋งํ ์ฑ์ฅ ์์
- ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ ํ์ ์ด๋ ์๋น์/๊ธฐ์
๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ ์ง์ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง
- ์์๋ฃ ์์ต์ ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์์ ์ ์ ์ง ์์
โข ์์ฐํ๋ ํด์ ์ํฅ:
- ์์ฐํ๋ ํด์ ํ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ํฐ ๋ณํ๋ ์์ ๊ฒ
- ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ ํ๋ ๊ธฐ๋
- ์์ต์ฑ๊ณผ ์๋ณธ์์ต๋ฅ (ROTCE) ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ด์
โข ์๋ณธ ๊ด๋ฆฌ:
- CET1 ๋น์จ 11.1% ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ํฅํ ์๋ณธ์์ค์ ๊ท์ ๋ณํ ์ถ์ด ์ง์ผ๋ณธ ํ ๊ฒฐ์ ์์
- ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
๊ณผ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์๋ณธ ํ์ฉ ๊ณํ
โข ์ด์ ํจ์จ์ฑ:
- ์ง์์ ์ธ ๋น์ฉ ํจ์จํ ์ถ์ง
- AI ๋ฑ ๊ธฐ์ ํ์ฉํ ์์ฐ์ฑ ํฅ์ ๋ชจ์
- ํฌ์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๊ท ํ ์ ์ง ๊ฐ์กฐ
์ด ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๋ฌธ ํฌ์์๋ค์ ์ํด Wells Fargo์ ์ฃผ์ ์ ๋ต๊ณผ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ๊ด์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฝํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค.