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Aehr Test Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ:AEHR) Q1 2026 Earnings Call October 6, 2025 5:00 PM EDT

Company Participants

Gayn Erickson - President, CEO & Director
Chris Siu - CFO, Executive VP of Finance & Secretary

Conference Call Participants

Jim Byers - PondelWilkinson Inc. Christian Schwab - Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division
Mark Shooter - William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division
Bradford Ferguson - Halter Ferguson Financial, Inc. Larry Chlebina - Chlebina Capital Management, LLC

Presentation

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Aehr Test Systems Fiscal 2026 First Quarter Financial Results Conference Call.
์—์–ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ฆˆ(NASDAQ: AEHR) 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ
2025๋…„ 10์›” 6์ผ ์˜คํ›„ 5์‹œ (๋™๋ถ€ ํ‘œ์ค€์‹œ)

ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ฐธ์„์ž

๊ฒŒ์ธ ์—๋ฆญ์Šจ(Gayn Erickson) - ์‚ฌ์žฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์‹œ์šฐ(Chris Siu) - CFO, ์žฌ๋ฌด ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ ๋น„์„œ

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

์ง ๋ฐ”์ด์–ด์Šค(Jim Byers) - ํฐ๋ธ์œŒํ‚จ์Šจ(PondelWilkinson Inc.)
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฒœ ์Šˆ์™‘(Christian Schwab) - ํฌ๋ ˆ์ด๊ทธ-ํ• ๋Ÿผ ์บํ”ผํ„ธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน(Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC), ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋งˆํฌ ์Šˆํ„ฐ(Mark Shooter) - ์œŒ๋ฆฌ์—„ ๋ธ”๋ ˆ์–ด ์•ค ์ปดํผ๋‹ˆ(William Blair & Company L.L.C.), ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋ธŒ๋ž˜๋“œํฌ๋“œ ํผ๊ฑฐ์Šจ(Bradford Ferguson) - ํ• ํ„ฐ ํผ๊ฑฐ์Šจ ํŒŒ์ด๋‚ธ์…œ(Halter Ferguson Financial, Inc.)
๋ž˜๋ฆฌ ํด๋ ˆ๋น„๋‚˜(Larry Chlebina) - ํด๋ ˆ๋น„๋‚˜ ์บํ”ผํ„ธ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ง€๋จผํŠธ(Chlebina Capital Management, LLC)

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์‚ฌํšŒ์ž

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—์–ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ฆˆ 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
[Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Jim Byers of PondelWilkinson Investor Relations. You may begin. Jim Byers
PondelWilkinson Inc. Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to Aehr Test Systems First Quarter Fiscal 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. With me on today's call are Aehr Test Systems' President and Chief Executive Officer, Gayn Erickson; and Chief Financial Officer, Chris Siu. Before I turn the call over to Gayn and Chris, I'd like to cover a few quick items. This afternoon, right after market close, Aehr Test issued a press release announcing its first quarter fiscal 2026 results.
[์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด] ์ด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋Š” ๋…น์Œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ PondelWilkinson ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น Jim Byers์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

**Jim Byers**
PondelWilkinson Inc. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์šด์˜์ž๋‹˜. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, Aehr Test Systems 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์žฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฝœ์—๋Š” Aehr Test Systems์˜ ์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ ์ตœ๊ณ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ž Gayn Erickson๊ณผ ์ตœ๊ณ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ฑ…์ž„์ž Chris Siu๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Gayn๊ณผ Chris์—๊ฒŒ ์ฝœ์„ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์˜คํ›„ ์žฅ ๋งˆ๊ฐ ์งํ›„, Aehr Test๋Š” 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณด๋„์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
That release is available on the company's website at aehr.com. This call is being broadcast live over the Internet for all interested parties, and the webcast will be archived on the Investor Relations page of Aehr Test's website. I'd like to remind everyone that on today's call, management will be making forward-looking statements that are based on current information and estimates and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements.ํ•ด๋‹น ๋ณด๋„์ž๋ฃŒ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ aehr.com์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹น์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ์†ก๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์›น์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋Š” Aehr Test ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์˜ ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ๋ณด๊ด€๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์ •๋ณด์™€ ์ถ”์ •์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์ „๋ง์ง„์ˆ ์„ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์ „๋ง์ง„์ˆ ์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์ „๋ง์ง„์ˆ ๊ณผ ์ค‘๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์œ„ํ—˜์š”์ธ๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์ด ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
These factors are discussed in the company's most recent periodic and current reports filed with the SEC and are only valid as of this date, and Aehr Test Systems undertakes no obligation to update the forward-looking statements. And now with that said, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Gayn Erickson, President and CEO. Gayn Erickson
President, CEO & Director

Thanks, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter fiscal 2026 earnings conference call.
์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์€ SEC์— ์ œ์ถœ๋œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ตœ์‹  ์ •๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ˆ˜์‹œ ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ์—์„œ ๋…ผ์˜๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‚ ์งœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋งŒ ์œ ํšจํ•˜๊ณ , Aehr Test Systems๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ˆ์ธก์ง„์ˆ ์„ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•  ์˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์„ Gayn Erickson ์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CEO์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Gayn Erickson
์‚ฌ์žฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ

๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Jim. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I'll begin with an update on the exciting markets Aehr is targeting for semiconductor test and burn-in with an emphasis on how these markets seem to share a common thread of market growth related to the massive expansion of data center infrastructure and AI. After that, Chris will provide a detailed review of our financial performance. And finally, we'll open up the floor for your questions. Although we started with the typical low first quarter revenue, consistent with the last few years and actually higher on both top and bottom lines in Wall Street analyst consensus, we're pleased with our start to this fiscal year.์ €๋Š” Aehr๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ํƒ€๊ฒŸ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ธํ”„๋ผ์™€ AI์˜ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํ™•์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณตํ†ต๋œ ํŠน์ง•์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ์— ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘์–ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ํ›„ Chris๊ฐ€ ์ €ํฌ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์„ฑ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ์„ธํ•œ ๊ฒ€ํ† ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ณผ ์ผ๊ด€๋˜๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๋‚ฎ์€ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์›”์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ปจ์„ผ์„œ์Šค ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ์ˆœ์ด์ต ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘์— ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We had revenue from several market segments and strong momentum in sales and customer engagement in both wafer level and packaged part test and burn-in of artificial intelligence or AI processors. Again, although we did not provide guidance for the quarter, our first quarter results surpassed analyst consensus estimates for both the top and bottom lines. We saw continued momentum in the qualification and production burn-in of packaged parts for AI processors, which is fueling sales growth in our new Sonoma ultra-high-power package part burn-in systems and consumables.์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ(AI) ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๊ณผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ถ„์•ผ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์—ฌ์— ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์€ ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ์ˆœ์ด์ต ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ปจ์„ผ์„œ์Šค ์ถ”์ •์น˜๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์šฉ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ ์–‘์‚ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์—์„œ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ ์ดˆ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ์†Œ๋ชจํ’ˆ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
During the quarter, our lead production customer, a leading hyperscaler placed multiple follow-on volume production orders for Sonoma systems, requesting shorter lead times to support higher-than-expected volumes as they accelerate the development of their own advanced AI processors. This customer is one of the premier large-scale data center providers and has already outlined plans to expand capacity for this device and introduce new AI processors over the coming year to be tested and burned in on our Sonoma platform at one of the world's leading test houses.์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ, ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์–‘์‚ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธ ์„ ๋„์ ์ธ ํ•˜์ดํผ์Šค์ผ€์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ํ›„์† ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐœ์ฃผํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ž์ฒด ์ฒจ๋‹จ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์„ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋†’์€ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ์งง์€ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์„ ์š”์ฒญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์€ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ œ๊ณต์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•ด๋‹น ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•์žฅ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฆฝํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ–ฅํ›„ 1๋…„๊ฐ„ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ Sonoma ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋“ค์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We're also collaborating with them on future generations of processors to ensure we can meet their long-term production needs for both package and even wafer level burn-in. Hyperscalers like Microsoft, Amazon, Google and Meta are increasingly designing and deploying their own application-specific integrated circuits or ASICs for AI processing to meet the unique demands of their massive scale workloads and gain a competitive advantage. Aehr allows customers to perform production burn-in screening, qualification and reliability testing for GPUs, AI processors, CPUs and network processors directly in package form.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜์—ฌ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Meta์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•˜์ดํผ์Šค์ผ€์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์›Œํฌ๋กœ๋“œ์˜ ๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ์šฐ์œ„๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด AI ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ์šฉ ์ž์ฒด ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ˜• ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด(ASIC)๋ฅผ ์ ์  ๋” ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐฐํฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Aehr๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด GPU, AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ, CPU ๋ฐ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ํ˜•ํƒœ์—์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฌ๋‹, ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Our Sonoma systems provide what we believe to be the industry's most cost-effective solution, enabling customers to smoothly move from early reliability testing to full production burn-in and early life failure screening, which helps reduce costs, improve quality and speed up time to market. In the last year, Aehr has implemented several enhancements to the Sonoma system to meet qualification and production test and burn-in requirements across a wide range of AI processor suppliers, test labs and outsourced assembly and test houses or OSATs.์ €ํฌ Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจ์ ์ธ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ž๋ถ€ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ๋ฐ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜๋ช… ๋ถˆ๋Ÿ‰ ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฌ๋‹์œผ๋กœ ์›ํ™œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ, ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๊ฐœ์„ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถœ์‹œ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋‹จ์ถ•์— ๋„์›€์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ํ•œ ํ•ด ๋™์•ˆ Aehr๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด, ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์†Œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์œ„ํƒ ์กฐ๋ฆฝ ๋ฐ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์—…์ฒด(OSAT)๋“ค์˜ ์ธ์ฆ ๋ฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ, ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐœ์„ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๊ตฌํ˜„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Major upgrades include increasing power per device to 2,000 watts, boosting parallelism and adding full automation with a new fully integrated packaged device handler. Over the last quarter, including a very successful customer open house we held last week at our Fremont, California headquarters, 10 different companies visited Aehr to see our next-generation Sonoma system and new features, including a fully automated device handler for completely hands-free operation, which we've installed here at our Fremont facility.์ฃผ์š” ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์—๋Š” ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋‹น ์ „๋ ฅ์„ 2,000์™€ํŠธ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ , ๋ณ‘๋ ฌ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์™„์ „ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ํ•ธ๋“ค๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•œ ์™„์ „ ์ž๋™ํ™” ์ถ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ, ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ชฌํŠธ ๋ณธ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์˜คํ”ˆํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ, 10๊ฐœ์˜ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด Aehr๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์—ฌ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋“ค์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ชฌํŠธ ์‹œ์„ค์— ์„ค์น˜ํ•œ ์™„์ „ ๋ฌด์ธ ์šด์˜์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์™„์ „ ์ž๋™ํ™” ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ํ•ธ๋“ค๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Customer feedback regarding these enhancements has been very positive, and we expect these new features to open up new applications and generate additional orders this fiscal year. As I've mentioned before, one of the biggest benefits of our acquisition of Incal Technology 1 year ago is that it gives us a front row seat to the future needs of many top AI processor customers, providing us with close insight into their burn-in requirements. As the only company worldwide that offers both proven wafer-level and packaged part burn-in systems for qualification and production burn-in of AI processors, Aehr is ideally positioned to assist them regardless of their burn-in method.์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋“ค์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, 1๋…„ ์ „ Incal Technology ์ธ์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ด์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฃผ์š” AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜ ๋‹ˆ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ตœ์ „์„ ์—์„œ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฐ€์ ‘ํ•œ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณต๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๋œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๊ณผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋กœ์„œ, Aehr๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์ด ์ด๋“ค์„ ์ง€์›ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Consequently, we are experiencing increased interest in our Sonoma high-volume production solution for package level burn-in and some of these same customers as well as other AI processor companies are approaching us to learn about our production wafer level burn-in capabilities. This past year, we delivered the world's first production wafer level burn-in systems for AI processors. Importantly, these systems are installed at one of the largest OSATs worldwide, providing a highly visible showcase to other potential AI customers of our proven solution for high-volume testing and burn-in of AI processors in wafer form, thereby strengthening our market position.๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ Sonoma ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์šฉ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œํ•ด ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์šฉ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์šฉ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์ด ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ OSAT ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์— ์„ค์น˜๋˜์–ด, ์›จ์ดํผ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๋œ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž ์žฌ์  AI ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ์‡ผ์ผ€์ด์Šค ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ง€์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We anticipate follow-on orders from this innovative AI customer as volumes increase and other AI processor suppliers have already approached us about the feasibility of wafer-level burn-in of their devices. We're also developing a strategic partnership with this world-leading OSAT to provide advanced wafer-level test and burn-in solutions for high-performance computing and AI processors. This joint solution already in operation at the facility marks a significant milestone for the industry. By combining Aehr's technological leadership with this OSAT's global reach, we can provide unique capabilities to the market.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ด ํ˜์‹ ์ ์ธ AI ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ›„์† ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ž์‚ฌ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ๋ฐ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ OSAT์™€ ์ „๋žต์  ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•ด๋‹น ์‹œ์„ค์—์„œ ์šด์˜ ์ค‘์ธ ์ด ๊ณต๋™ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์€ ์—…๊ณ„์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ด์ •ํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Aehr์˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ๊ณผ ์ด OSAT์˜ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This model offers a complete turnkey solution from design to high-volume production and several customers have already begun discussions to learn more about our high-volume wafer-level test and burn-in solutions for AI processors. This OSAT and Aehr have a long history of innovation together, including the first FOX-NP wafer-level burn-in system installed in the OSAT for high-power silicon photonics wafers, now the world's first wafer level test and burn-in of HPC AI products using Aehr's FOX-XP systems. And they're also one of the largest installed bases of Aehr's Sonoma system for high-power AI and high-performance computing processors.์ด ๋ชจ๋ธ์€ ์„ค๊ณ„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์™„์ „ํ•œ ํ„ดํ‚ค ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์šฉ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด OSAT์™€ Aehr๋Š” ์˜ค๋žœ ํ˜์‹ ์˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ์›จ์ดํผ์šฉ OSAT์— ์„ค์น˜๋œ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ FOX-NP ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ, ํ˜„์žฌ Aehr์˜ FOX-XP ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ HPC AI ์ œํ’ˆ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋“ค์€ ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ AI ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์šฉ Aehr์˜ Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Additionally, this last quarter, we launched an evaluation program with a top-tier AI processor supplier for production wafer level test and burn-in for one of their high-volume processors. This paid evaluation, which includes a custom high-power WaferPak and the development of a production wafer-level burn-in test program will feature a comprehensive characterization and correlation plan to validate Aehr's FOX-XP production systems for wafer-level burn-in and functional testing of one of the suppliers' high-performance, high-power processors on 300-millimeter wafers.๋˜ํ•œ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ตœ์ƒ์œ„ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ณ ๋ณผ๋ฅจ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์šฉ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ‰๊ฐ€ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์ถคํ˜• ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ WaferPak๊ณผ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์šฉ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋œ ์ด ์œ ๋ฃŒ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋Š” 300๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ์—์„œ ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์˜ ๊ณ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ, ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด Aehr์˜ FOX-XP ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ฒ€์ฆํ•˜๋Š” ํฌ๊ด„์ ์ธ ํŠน์„ฑํ™” ๋ฐ ์ƒ๊ด€๊ด€๊ณ„ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ํŠน์ง•์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We believe this represents a significant step toward adopting wafer-level burn-in as an alternative to later-stage burn-in and into future generations of their products. Our FOX-XP multi-wafer test and burn-in system is the only production-proven solution for full wafer-level test and burn-in of high-power devices such as AI processors, silicon carbide and gallium nitride power semiconductors and silicon photonics integrated circuits. Beyond AI processors, we're seeing signs of increasing demand in other segments we serve, including silicon photonics, hard disk drives, gallium nitride and silicon carbide semiconductors.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›„๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์˜ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜๊ณ  ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ œํ’ˆ ์„ธ๋Œ€์— ์ ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ FOX-XP ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ, ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ, ์งˆํ™”๊ฐˆ๋ฅจ ํŒŒ์›Œ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด, ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ์ง‘์ ํšŒ๋กœ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ํ’€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์–‘์‚ฐ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๋œ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์™ธ์—๋„ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค, ํ•˜๋“œ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ, ์งˆํ™”๊ฐˆ๋ฅจ ๋ฐ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋น„์Šคํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ๊ทธ๋จผํŠธ์—์„œ๋„ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ฆ๊ฐ€์˜ ์กฐ์ง์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We're experiencing ongoing growth in the silicon photonics market, driven by the adoption of optical chip-to-chip communication and optical network switching. This quarter, we upgraded another one of our major silicon photonics customers, FOX-XPs to the new higher power configuration, doubling their device test parallelism with up to 3.5 kilowatts of power per wafer in a 9-wafer configuration. This latest system shipment includes our fully integrated and automated WaferPak Aligner configured for single touchdown test and burn-in of all devices on their 300-millimeter wafers.์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ด‘ํ•™ ์นฉ ๊ฐ„ ํ†ต์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ด‘ํ•™ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ ์Šค์œ„์นญ์˜ ๋„์ž…์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ฃผ์š” ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ FOX-XP๋ฅผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณ ์ถœ๋ ฅ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜์—ฌ, 9์›จ์ดํผ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์—์„œ ์›จ์ดํผ๋‹น ์ตœ๋Œ€ 3.5ํ‚ฌ๋กœ์™€ํŠธ์˜ ์ „๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ณ‘๋ ฌ์„ฑ์„ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ตœ์‹  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ถœํ•˜์—๋Š” 300๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹จ์ผ ํ„ฐ์น˜๋‹ค์šด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋œ ์™„์ „ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ์ž๋™ํ™” WaferPak Aligner๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We anticipate additional orders and shipments this fiscal year to support their production capacity needs for their optical I/O silicon photonics integrated circuits. In hard disk drives, AI-driven applications are generating unprecedented amounts of data, creating ever-increasing demand for data storage and driving new read/write technologies for higher density drives, particularly for data center applications.์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด‘ํ•™ I/O ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ์ง‘์ ํšŒ๋กœ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์ถœํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋“œ ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋Š” AI ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜๋“ค์ด ์ „๋ก€ ์—†๋Š” ์–‘์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ์ €์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ณ ๋ฐ€๋„ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ฝ๊ธฐ/์“ฐ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We are ramping and have shipped multiple FOX-CP wafer-level test and burn-in systems integrated with the high-power wafer prober and unique WaferPak high-power contactors to a world-leading supplier of hard disk drives to meet the test, burn-in and stabilization needs of a new device used in their next-generation read/write heads. This customer is one of the top suppliers of hard disk drives worldwide and has indicated they're planning additional purchases in the near term as this product line grows. Gallium nitride devices are increasingly used for data center power efficiency, solar energy, automotive systems and electrical infrastructure.์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„์™€ ๋…์ž์ ์ธ WaferPak ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์ปจํƒํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ FOX-CP ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ํ•˜๋“œ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์— ์ถœํ•˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ์—…์ฒด์˜ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ์ฝ๊ธฐ/์“ฐ๊ธฐ ํ—ค๋“œ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ์‹ ๊ทœ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ, ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ฐ ์•ˆ์ •ํ™” ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ํ•˜๋“œ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ์ตœ์ƒ์œ„๊ถŒ์— ์†ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ํ•ด๋‹น ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ผ์ธ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ๋งค๋ฅผ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐˆ๋ฅจ ๋‚˜์ดํŠธ๋ผ์ด๋“œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ „๋ ฅ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ, ํƒœ์–‘ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€, ์ž๋™์ฐจ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ฐ ์ „๋ ฅ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gallium nitride offers a much broader application range than silicon carbide and is set for significant growth in the next decade. Our lead production customer is a leading automotive semiconductor supplier and a key player in the GaN power semiconductor market, and we have multiple new engagements with other potential GaN customers in progress. We're currently in design and development of a large number of WaferPaks for new device designs targeted for high-volume manufacturing on our FOX-XP systems.์งˆํ™”๊ฐˆ๋ฅจ์€ ํƒ„ํ™”๊ทœ์†Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์‘์šฉ ๋ถ„์•ผ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ํ–ฅํ›„ 10๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์–‘์‚ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์„ ๋„์ ์ธ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์ด์ž GaN ์ „๋ ฅ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด์ด๋ฉฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž ์žฌ์  GaN ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ˜‘๋ ฅ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ FOX-XP ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ์„ค๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ์›จ์ดํผํŒฉ ์„ค๊ณ„ ๋ฐ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Although silicon carbide growth is expected to be weighted toward the second half of the year, we continue to see opportunities for upgrades, WaferPaks and capacity expansion as that market recovers. Demand for silicon carbide remains heavily driven by battery electric vehicles, but silicon carbide devices are also gaining traction in other markets, including power infrastructure, solar and various industrial applications.์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ง‘์ค‘๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•ด๋‹น ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ, ์›จ์ดํผํŒฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ํ™•์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐฐํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ „๊ธฐ์ฐจ์— ์˜ํ•ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ์ธํ”„๋ผ, ํƒœ์–‘๊ด‘, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฐ์—…์šฉ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋„ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Late in last fiscal year, we shipped our first 18-wafer high-voltage FOX-XP system, extending beyond our previous 9-wafer capability to test and burn-in 100% of the EV inverter devices on 6- or 8-inch wafers in a single pass with up to plus or minus 2,000-volt test and stress conditions at high temperature. We believe we're well positioned in this market with a large customer base and industry-leading solutions for wafer level burn-in. I also want to give a quick update on the flash memory wafer level burn-in benchmark we've discussed earlier.์ง€๋‚œ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง์— ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ 18-์›จ์ดํผ ๊ณ ์ „์•• FOX-XP ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์ถœํ•˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด์˜ 9-์›จ์ดํผ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ํ™•์žฅํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ, 6์ธ์น˜ ๋˜๋Š” 8์ธ์น˜ ์›จ์ดํผ์—์„œ EV ์ธ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ 100%๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์˜จ์—์„œ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 2,000๋ณผํŠธ์˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ์กฐ๊ฑด์œผ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ผ ํŒจ์Šค๋กœ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฒˆ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ์—…๊ณ„ ์„ ๋„์ ์ธ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์•ž์„œ ๋…ผ์˜ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ฒค์น˜๋งˆํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This benchmark is ongoing, and we've now begun testing with our new fine pitch WaferPak that can meet the finer pitches and higher pin count costs more cost effectively for flash memory, but also can be applicable for DRAM and even AI processors if they require fine pitch wafer probing. This is the first WaferPak full wafer contactor demonstrating this capability. The benchmark has gone slower than expected with some challenges with the test system bring up, but appears to show positive results of the new WaferPak, our ability to do an 18-wafer test cell and using our full automated wafer handler and WaferPak Aligner for their 300-millimeter NAND flash wafers.์ด ๋ฒค์น˜๋งˆํฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋ฏธ์„ธํ•œ ํ”ผ์น˜์™€ ๋” ๋†’์€ ํ•€ ์ˆ˜ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒŒ์ธ ํ”ผ์น˜ WaferPak์œผ๋กœ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” DRAM์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํŒŒ์ธ ํ”ผ์น˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ”„๋กœ๋น™์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์—๋„ ์ ์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์ž…์ฆํ•˜๋Š” ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ WaferPak ํ’€ ์›จ์ดํผ ์ปจํƒํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ณผ์ œ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ฒค์น˜๋งˆํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋А๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด WaferPak์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์™€ 18-์›จ์ดํผ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์…€์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  300๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ„ฐ NAND ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์›จ์ดํผ์šฉ ์™„์ „ ์ž๋™ํ™”๋œ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ•ธ๋“ค๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐ WaferPak Aligner ์‚ฌ์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Interestingly, the market for NAND flash is in a state of flux with earlier announced transition to hybrid bonding technologies for higher density NAND flash on 300-millimeter wafers, driving new requirements for higher parallelism and higher power to now a push for high-bandwidth flash or HBF, which drives very different requirements in terms of test system capabilities. This is exciting news for Aehr as both are driving power requirements up substantially, which is right in our wheelhouse.ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„, NAND ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ƒํƒœ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „์— ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋œ 300mm ์›จ์ดํผ์—์„œ ๊ณ ๋ฐ€๋„ NAND ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ๋ณธ๋”ฉ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋ณ‘๋ ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ „๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ(HBF)๋กœ์˜ ์ถ”์ง„์ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค์„ ์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” Aehr์—๊ฒŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•œ ์†Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ „๋ ฅ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ „๋ฌธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
High-bandwidth flash or HBF, is an emerging technology developed by 2 of the flash market leaders and aims to provide a massive capacity memory tier for AI workloads by combining the DRAM high-bandwidth memory or HBM-like packaging with 3D NAND flash. This innovation is set to offer 8 to 16x the capacity of HBM DRAM at a similar cost, delivering comparable bandwidth to dramatically accelerate AI inference and process larger models more efficiency while using less power than traditional DRAM.๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ(HBF, High-bandwidth flash)๋Š” ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์„ ๋‘์—…์ฒด 2๊ณณ์ด ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•œ ์‹ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋กœ, DRAM์˜ ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ(HBM)์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง•๊ณผ 3D ๋‚ธ๋“œ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•˜์—ฌ AI ์›Œํฌ๋กœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋Œ€์šฉ๋Ÿ‰ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ„์ธต์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ํ˜์‹  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ HBM DRAM ๋Œ€๋น„ 8~16๋ฐฐ์˜ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ์กด DRAM๋ณด๋‹ค ์ ์€ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์—ฌ AI ์ถ”๋ก ์„ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋” ํฐ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋ณด๋‹ค ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We're working with one of these lead customers on the now newer tester requirements to provide them with a proposal to meet even these newer, higher performance and higher power requirements within our FOX-XP wafer -- 18-wafer test and burn-in system infrastructure. We expect to have yet another update out at next quarter's earnings call. The rapid advancement of generative artificial intelligence and the accelerating electrification of transportation and global infrastructure represent 2 of the most significant macro trends impacting the semiconductor industry today.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ตœ์‹  ํ…Œ์Šคํ„ฐ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ์˜ FOX-XP ์›จ์ดํผ -- 18-์›จ์ดํผ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋”์šฑ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ณ  ๋†’์€ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ œ์•ˆ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์„ฑํ˜• ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ์˜ ๊ธ‰์†ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์ „๊ณผ ๊ตํ†ต ๋ฐ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ธํ”„๋ผ์˜ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ์ „๊ธฐํ™”๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ์‚ฐ์—…์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ์  ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
These transformative forces are driving enormous growth in semiconductor demand while fundamentally increasing the performance, reliability, safety and security requirements of these devices across computing and data infrastructure, telecommunications networks, hard disk drive and solid-state storage solutions, electric vehicles, charging systems and renewable energy generation. As these applications operate at ever higher power levels and in increasingly mission-critical environments, the need for comprehensive test and burn-in has become more essential than ever.์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ˜์  ๋™๋ ฅ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ์ˆ˜์š”์˜ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์—, ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ๋ฐ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ์ธํ”„๋ผ, ํ†ต์‹  ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ, ํ•˜๋“œ ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋ฐ ์†”๋ฆฌ๋“œ ์Šคํ…Œ์ดํŠธ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜, ์ „๊ธฐ์ฐจ, ์ถฉ์ „ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žฌ์ƒ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ๋ฐœ์ „ ๋ถ„์•ผ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ, ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ, ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ ๋ฐ ๋ณด์•ˆ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜๋“ค์ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ „๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฏธ์…˜ ํฌ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ์ปฌํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ์šด์šฉ๋จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ, ํฌ๊ด„์ ์ธ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์˜ ํ•„์š”์„ฑ์ด ๊ทธ ์–ด๋А ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Semiconductor manufacturers are turning to advanced wafer level and package level burn-in systems to screen for early life failures, validate long-term reliability and ensure consistent performance under extreme electrical and thermal stress. This growing emphasis on reliability testing reflects a fundamental shift in the industry from simply achieving functionality to guaranteeing dependable operation throughout a product's lifetime, a requirement that continues to expand alongside the scale and complexity of next-generation semiconductor devices.๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ์ œ์กฐ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์€ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜๋ช… ๋ถˆ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์„ ๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ , ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฒ€์ฆํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๊ทนํ•œ์˜ ์ „๊ธฐ์  ๋ฐ ์—ด์  ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ํ•˜์—์„œ ์ผ๊ด€๋œ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์„ ๋ณด์žฅํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ฒจ๋‹จ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฐ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์ „์ฒด ์ˆ˜๋ช… ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘๋™์„ ๋ณด์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์—…๊ณ„ ๋‚ด ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์™€ ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
To conclude, we're excited about the year ahead and believe nearly all of our served markets will see order growth in the fiscal year with silicon carbide growth expected to strengthen further into fiscal 2027. Although we remain cautious due to ongoing tariff-related uncertainty and are not yet reinstating formal guidance, we're confident in the broad-based growth opportunities ahead across AI and our other markets. With that, let me turn it over to Chris, and then we'll open up the lines for questions. Chris Siu
CFO, Executive VP of Finance & Secretary

Thank you, Gayn, and good afternoon, everyone.
๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์•ž์œผ๋กœ์˜ ํ•œ ํ•ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋น„์Šคํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ค‘ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์€ 2027 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„๊นŒ์ง€ ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์†๋˜๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ž…์žฅ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์•„์ง ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์žฌ๊ฐœํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, AI์™€ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด์ œ Chris์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ณ , ์ดํ›„ ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Chris Siu
์ตœ๊ณ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ฑ…์ž„์ž, ์žฌ๋ฌด ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ ๋น„์„œ

Gayn, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
Looking at our Q1 performance, results exceeded analyst expectations for both revenue and profit. First quarter revenue was $11 million, a $16 million (sic) [ $2.1 million ] decrease from $13.1 million in the same period last year. It is important to note that last year Q1 benefited from a very strong consumables revenue quarter, which makes direct comparisons challenging. This quarter's revenue was primarily driven by demand for our FOX-CP and XP products.Q1 ์‹ค์ ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋งค์ถœ๊ณผ ์ด์ต ๋ชจ๋‘ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ „๋ง์น˜๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 1,100๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ, ์ž‘๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ 1,310๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ€๋น„ 210๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์†Œ๋ชจํ’ˆ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๋˜ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์œ ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ๋น„๊ต๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ FOX-CP ๋ฐ XP ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In Q1, we shipped multiple FOX-CP single wafer production test and burn-in systems, featuring an integrated high-power wafer prober for new high-volume application involving burn-in and stabilization of new devices for our lead customer in the hard disk drive industry. Contactor revenues, which include WaferPaks for wafer-level burn-in business and BIMs and BIPs for our packaged part burn-in business totaled $2.6 million and made up 24% of our total revenue in the first quarter, significantly lower than $12.1 million or 92% of the previous year's first quarter revenue.1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋“œ ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‹ ๊ทœ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์˜ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ฐ ์•ˆ์ •ํ™” ์ž‘์—…์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ†ตํ•ฉํ˜• ๊ณ ์ถœ๋ ฅ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„๊ฐ€ ํƒ‘์žฌ๋œ FOX-CP ๋‹จ์ผ ์›จ์ดํผ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ€ ์ถœํ•˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‚ฌ์—…์šฉ WaferPak๊ณผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‚ฌ์—…์šฉ BIM ๋ฐ BIP๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๋Š” ์ปจํƒํ„ฐ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 260๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์—ฌ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 24%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ 1,210๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ(92%)์— ๋น„ํ•ด ํ˜„์ €ํžˆ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As we have discussed in the past, this consumable business is ongoing even when customers are not purchasing capital equipment for expansion. We feel that this revenue will continue to grow both in terms of absolute value, but also as a percentage of our overall revenue over time. Non-GAAP gross margin for the first quarter was 37.5%, down from the 54.7% year-over-year. The decline in non-GAAP gross margin was mainly due to lower sales volume and a less favorable product mix compared to the previous year, which included a higher volume of higher-margin WaferPaks.๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋…ผ์˜ํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์ด ์†Œ๋ชจํ’ˆ ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ž๋ณธ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋„ ์ง€์†๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ ˆ๋Œ€๊ฐ’ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์—์„œ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์ค‘ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ๊ณ„์† ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋น„GAAP ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 37.5%๋กœ ์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ 54.7%์—์„œ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„GAAP ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  ํ•˜๋ฝ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋งค์ถœ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ฐ์†Œ์™€ ์ „๋…„๋„์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ฏน์Šค์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ „๋…„๋„์—๋Š” ๊ณ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์›จ์ดํผํŒฉ(WaferPaks)์˜ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Also, our products shipped this quarter included lower-margin probers and an automated aligner, both manufactured by third parties and sold as part of our overall product offerings. Non-GAAP operating expenses in the first quarter were $5.9 million, an 8% increase from $5.5 million in Q1 last year. Operating expenses increased due to higher research and development expenses for our ongoing project as we continue to [Technical Difficulty] and the memory project. As we previously announced, we successfully closed the Incal facility on May 30, 2025, and completed the consolidation of personnel and manufacturing into Fremont facility at the end of fiscal 2025.๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ถœํ•˜๋œ ์ œํ’ˆ์—๋Š” ์ œ3์ž๊ฐ€ ์ œ์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ „์ฒด ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ ํŒ๋งค๋˜๋Š” ์ €๋งˆ์ง„ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„(prober)์™€ ์ž๋™ํ™” ์–ผ๋ผ์ด๋„ˆ(automated aligner)๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋น„GAAP ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์€ 590๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ 550๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ€๋น„ 8% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์™€ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ]ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „์— ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” 2025๋…„ 5์›” 30์ผ Incal ์‹œ์„ค์„ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ์‡„ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง์— ์ธ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์ œ์กฐ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ชฌํŠธ ์‹œ์„ค๋กœ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ์™„๋ฃŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
In connection with the facility consolidation, we eliminated a small number of headcount due to redundancy in our global supply chain and incurred a onetime restructuring charge of $219,000 in our fiscal first quarter. In the first fiscal quarter of 2026, we received $1.3 million of employee retention credit [Technical Difficulty] for eligible businesses affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. We record this cash credit minus the professional fee to process the refund and other income on our income statement. In Q1, we recorded an income tax benefit of $0.8 million and our effective tax rate was 26.5%.์‹œ์„ค ํ†ตํ•ฉ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ, ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์˜ ์ค‘๋ณต์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ์ถ•ํ•˜์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 219,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ • ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” COVID-19 ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ์ ๊ฒฉ ์‚ฌ์—…์ฒด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด 130๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ์ง์› ์œ ์ง€ ํฌ๋ ˆ๋”ง์„ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ] ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํฌ๋ ˆ๋”ง์—์„œ ํ™˜๊ธ‰ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ „๋ฌธ ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ์ƒ ๊ธฐํƒ€์ˆ˜์ต์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” 80๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ๋ฒ•์ธ์„ธ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์œ ํšจ์„ธ์œจ์€ 26.5%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Non-GAAP net income for the first quarter, which excludes the impact of stock-based [Technical Difficulty] was $0.2 million or $0.01 per diluted share compared to $2.2 million or $0.07 per diluted share in the first quarter of fiscal 2025. [Technical Difficulty] net income for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 [Technical Difficulty]. Our backlog at the end of [ the quarter ] was $15.5 million with $2 million in bookings in the first 5 weeks of the second quarter of fiscal 2026, [Technical Difficulty] $17.5 million. Turning to our cash flows and balance sheet. During the first quarter, we used $0.3 million in operating cash flows.์ฃผ์‹ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ]์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋น„GAAP ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 20๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋˜๋Š” ํฌ์„์ฃผ๋‹น 0.01๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ, 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜ 220๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋˜๋Š” ํฌ์„์ฃผ๋‹น 0.07๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์™€ ๋น„๊ต๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ] ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ]์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” 1,550๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ฒซ 5์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ 200๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜์—ฌ [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ] 1,750๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„๊ณผ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์—…ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์—์„œ 30๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We ended the quarter with $24.7 million in cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash compared to $26.5 million at the end of Q4, mainly due to a final $1.4 million payment for facility renovation. In total, we have spent $6.3 million on remodeling our manufacturing facility. With the renovation now complete, we have significantly upgraded our manufacturing floor, customer and application test labs and clean room space for WaferPak full wafer contactors. Improvements also increased our power and water cooling capacity, enabling us to manufacture all of our FOX wafer level burn-in products and packaged part burn-in products, including Sonoma, Tahoe and macro products on the [ same floor ].๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง ํ˜„์žฌ ํ˜„๊ธˆ, ํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ฑ์ž์‚ฐ ๋ฐ ์ œํ•œํ˜„๊ธˆ์€ 2,470๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ, 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง 2,650๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์‹œ์„ค ๊ฐœ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ตœ์ข… 140๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ง€๊ธ‰ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด 630๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ์กฐ์‹œ์„ค ๋ฆฌ๋ชจ๋ธ๋ง์— ์ง€์ถœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์™„๋ฃŒ๋จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ œ์กฐ ํ˜„์žฅ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋žฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  WaferPak ํ’€ ์›จ์ดํผ ์ปจํƒํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋Œ€ํญ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์„  ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฐ ๋ƒ‰๊ฐ์ˆ˜ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ฆ๋Œ€ํ•˜์—ฌ FOX ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ Sonoma, Tahoe, ๋งคํฌ๋กœ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ธต์—์„œ ์ œ์กฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We are very excited about this renovation as it was specifically designed to enable us to manufacture more high-power systems for AI configuration. We believe investment in this facility renovation has increased our overall manufacturing capacity by at least 5x, depending on the product configuration, and we are more ready than ever to support the growth of our customers. We celebrated the upgrades with the customer open house that was well attended and received very positively. Over the past quarter, we hosted many packaged part burn-in level customers who have the opportunity to see our expanded capabilities firsthand.์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ฆฌ๋…ธ๋ฒ ์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” AI ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์ œ์กฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์„ค๊ณ„๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์„ค ๋ฆฌ๋…ธ๋ฒ ์ด์…˜ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ „์ฒด ์ œ์กฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์ตœ์†Œ 5๋ฐฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋А ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ž˜ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์ฐธ์„์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ์ด๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ์–ป์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์˜คํ”ˆํ•˜์šฐ์Šค ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ดˆ์ฒญํ•˜์—ฌ ํ™•์žฅ๋œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ง์ ‘ ํ™•์ธํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Importantly, we do not expect and anticipate additional capital expenditures for facility expansion in the near future. We have no debt and continue to invest our excess cash in money market funds. As Gayn mentioned, we started the year by withholding formal guidance due to ongoing tariff-related uncertainty. Since we remain cautious, we will continue with that approach for now. However, looking ahead, we're confident in the broad-based growth opportunities across AI and our other markets. Lastly, looking at Investor Relations calendar. Aehr Test will meet with investors at the 17th Annual CEO Summit in Phoenix tomorrow, Tuesday, October 7.์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ ์€ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์‹œ์„ค ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ถ€์ฑ„๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ ์—ฌ์œ  ํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋งˆ์ผ“ ํŽ€๋“œ์— ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒŒ์ธ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง€์†๋˜๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ดˆ ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ์ œ๊ณต์„ ๋ณด๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ž…์žฅ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ž์„ ๋‚ด๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด, AI์™€ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ์ผ์ •์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, Aehr Test๋Š” ๋‚ด์ผ์ธ 10์›” 7์ผ ํ™”์š”์ผ ํ”ผ๋‹‰์Šค์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ17ํšŒ ์—ฐ๋ก€ CEO ์„œ๋ฐ‹์—์„œ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The following month, we'll participate Craig-Hallum 16th Annual Alpha Conference in New York on Tuesday, November 18. And on Tuesday, December 16, we will return to New York City to attend the NYC CEO Summit. We hope to see some of you at these conferences. This concludes our prepared remarks. We're now ready to take your questions. Operator, please go ahead.๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹ฌ์—๋Š” 11์›” 18์ผ ํ™”์š”์ผ ๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” Craig-Hallum ์ œ16ํšŒ ์—ฐ๋ก€ ์•ŒํŒŒ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์— ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  12์›” 16์ผ ํ™”์š”์ผ์—๋Š” ๋‰ด์š•์‹œ CEO ์„œ๋ฐ‹ ์ฐธ์„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‰ด์š•์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐˆ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ค€๋น„๋œ ๋ฐœ์–ธ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํผ๋ ˆ์ดํ„ฐ, ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here are the key points from the earnings call in Korean:

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ํ•˜์ด๋ผ์ดํŠธ:
- 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์•ก 1,100๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ธฐ๋ก (์ „๋…„ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์œผ๋‚˜ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜ ์ƒํšŒ)
- ๋น„GAAP ์ˆœ์ด์ต 20๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ (์ฃผ๋‹น 0.01๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ)
- ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ง ํ˜„๊ธˆ ๋ณด์œ ์•ก 2,470๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ

โ€ข ์‚ฌ์—… ๋™ํ–ฅ:
- AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ/๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€ ์ง€์†
- ์ฃผ์š” ํ•˜์ดํผ์Šค์ผ€์ผ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ Sonoma ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ํ™•๋ณด
- ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๊ณผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ ๋„์  ์œ„์น˜ ์œ ์ง€

โ€ข ์ „๋ง:
- AI, ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค, ํ•˜๋“œ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋“ฑ ์ฃผ์š” ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์ „๋ง
- ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ํšŒ๋ณต ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ณต์‹ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋Š” ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ๋ณด๋ฅ˜


โ“ Q&A

Original Translation
Operator: [Operator Instructions] [Technical Difficulty] Christian Schwab, your line is live.**Operator:** [์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด] [๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ] Christian Schwab๋‹˜, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Schwab: Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division Great. That sounds like a much better connection. So Gayn, as we kind of get into the second half of the year and kind of these more open-ended growth opportunities in AI that you've talked about in particular, when do you think we'll see a material improvement in bookings to drive revenue down the road?**Christian Schwab:** ๋„ค, ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ ์ƒํƒœ๋„ค์š”. Gayn, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ ‘์–ด๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ ํŠนํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  AI ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฃผ(bookings)์˜ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ์–ธ์ œ์ฏค ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Well, that sounds an awful lot like guidance again here. But -- so what we believe and what we've tried to communicate in our previous calls as well is that our lead -- our first AI wafer level burn-in production customer, we anticipate that they will need additional capacity that would be both bookings and revenue for this year. And that could be more than last year, and we won't put a top on that. So the question is timing of that. We're not sitting on an order. We didn't get it yet and just put it in our pocket. But as that order comes in, we typically will announce those within a couple of business days or so. What we are seeing is additional wafer level customer engagements. It's pretty interesting that kind of span from processors and AI -- I'm sorry. Okay. Hold on, that was -- Christian, can you hear me okay?**Gayn Erickson:** ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ „ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ AI ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer level burn-in) ์–‘์‚ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์™€ ๋งค์ถœ ๋ชจ๋‘์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ž‘๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ƒํ•œ์„ ์„ ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์„œ ์ฃผ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์— ๋„ฃ์–ด๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋ฉด ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋‚ด๋กœ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ํ˜‘๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์™€ AI ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฝค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž ๊น๋งŒ์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ -- ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ, ์ œ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์ž˜ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋‚˜์š”?
Christian Schwab: Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division I can hear you, Gayn.**Christian Schwab:** ๋„ค, ๊ฐ€์ธ๋‹˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Okay. All right. So I'll assume that Christian is on mute or something that he can hear me as well. So we're seeing it across several different groups from hyperscalers, AI processors kind of across the board. And it's interesting. We have direct people that have come in saying that's what they're interested in. We have people that are talking to us about Sonoma for their -- because their current customers already doing qualifications and are looking to do burn-in for the first time and are looking to their package and also now exploring the wafer level side of things. So these generally do take some time. And so I would probably guess these tend to be more second half, this being the second fiscal quarter of fiscal '26 for us. But at this point, we're just scrambling as fast as we can to address all the requests and requirements and keeping our head down to focus on them. On the package part, same thing, both additional quals and additional processes that are being put on our system and its enhancements to the Sonoma as well as we've got customer interest to do additional production customers with and without the fully automated integration of the pick-and-place handler that bolts right onto the front of Sonoma. So I think it's ongoing and very interesting, and we're just really happy to have this number of engaged and active customers. Operator, can you hear us?**Gayn Erickson:** ๋„ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ์ด ์Œ์†Œ๊ฑฐ ์ƒํƒœ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ดํผ์Šค์ผ€์ผ๋Ÿฌ(hyperscaler)๋ถ€ํ„ฐ AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๊นŒ์ง€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์ž‘์—…์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ด์ œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ์ชฝ๋„ ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ข€ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ, ์ €ํฌ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” 26ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”์ฒญ์‚ฌํ•ญ๊ณผ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค์„ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ˆ™์ด๊ณ  ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ, ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๊ณผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์ •๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ์ ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma)์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค๋„ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ ์ „๋ฉด์— ์ง์ ‘ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๋Š” ์™„์ „ ์ž๋™ํ™”๋œ ํ”ฝ์•คํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์Šค ํ•ธ๋“ค๋Ÿฌ(pick-and-place handler)์˜ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ์—ฌ๋ถ€์™€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์–‘์‚ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ๋„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ด๊ณ  ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํผ๋ ˆ์ดํ„ฐ, ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
Operator: Yes, I can hear you. And are you ready for the next question?**Operator:** ๋„ค, ์ž˜ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ค€๋น„ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Yes. Christian, do you have any other questions or -- seems a little abrupt this time.**Gayn Erickson:** ๋„ค, Christian, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋” ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด... ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ์ข€ ๊ฐ‘์ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š”.
Operator: We have a question coming from Christian Schwab.**Operator:** ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค์ฐฌ ์Šˆ๋ฐฅ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Schwab: Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division Sorry about that, Gayn. I was telling you I could hear you, but it wasn't working. So we have a few customers here currently. You talked about a bunch of more customers coming in there. As we look to the end of your fiscal year, do you have a target number of customers that you think you'll be in the process of shipping to by then or shipping to fairly shortly afterwards?**Christian Schwab:** ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Gayn. ๋“ค๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋„ค์š”. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ๋ง์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ถœํ•˜๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๋ชฉํ‘œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ์ˆ˜๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์งํ›„์— ์ถœํ•˜๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director That's a good question in terms of targets. Actually, we do have some discrete quantity targets. In fact, some of the KBOs, which are the bonus structures for our officers are based upon not only numbers but specific targeted AI customers. Really given a lot of insight, but I would say in plural for additional package part and also for wafer level. So at this point, we're not really limiting ourselves, but we're just trying to be cautious about oversetting expectations either in terms of the timeline of it. But it's actually -- one of the things that was interesting that really came to fruition, and I apologize if I said this before on the last call, is I'm starting to also understand a couple of things going on. One of them that was kind of new is there are -- many of the ASIC suppliers in particular, and there's some evidence within the GPU or just the processor suppliers themselves, they don't do a production burn-in like you think about it like using one of our tools. They're doing it at system level, like as in the rack. So these processors are getting all the way to the end, and then they're simply running them in rack form, sometimes at elevated temperatures and sometimes not to try and get the first 7 days of failures out of them, which is so inefficient and uses a ton of power. And there's only so many processors per rack, if you will. And so I was sort of surprised at some of this. Some of the test vectors that we're getting from customers are not -- this is on a production tool today. This is just an HTOL, which is like a qualification vector instead of a production vector, and that's because they weren't doing production yet. So you're really at the leading edge of this. But one thing is really clear from the data we've seen so far, the devices are failing. We do see the failures in the burn-in. So they're absolutely able to screen them using our tools at wafer and production. And so that creates the leading edge of this market and why we're so excited about it. I mean it's really -- I mean, obviously, every single call you get on, your CEOs are talking about, how they're using AI one way or the other. But this is really happening to us. I mean it was 40% of our business last year from 0. We think it's going to grow both package and wafer level this year. And we're still seeing the other businesses grow as well. So we're really glad to have gotten the facility upgrade behind us. There's a lot of work to get that there. Now we have the capacity to be able to ship so many more systems, particularly the high-power ones. And if you come on our floor right now, you'll see AI wafer-level burn-in systems right next to Sonoma systems being built today. So I think that we believe that we have the opportunity to capture multiple customers in both package and wafer level.**Gayn Erickson:** ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์„ค์ •์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜๋Ÿ‰ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ž„์›๋“ค์˜ ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ธ KBO ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ˆซ์ž๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํŠน์ • ํƒ€๊ฒŸ AI ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ํ†ต์ฐฐ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๊ณผ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๋ณต์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ œํ•œํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํƒ€์ž„๋ผ์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ณผ๋„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ -- ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐ์‹ค์„ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๋‚œ ์ฝœ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ฃ„์†กํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒํ™ฉ๋“ค์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ˜„์ƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ASIC ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค, ํŠนํžˆ GPU๋‚˜ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(production burn-in), ์ฆ‰ ์ €ํฌ ํˆด์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€์‹  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ, ์ฆ‰ ๋ž™ ๋‹จ์œ„๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋“ค์ด ์ตœ์ข… ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€์„œ, ๋ž™ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ตฌ๋™์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ณ ์˜จ์—์„œ, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ 7์ผ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฑธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋น„ํšจ์œจ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ์†Œ๋ชจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ž™๋‹น ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์ˆ˜๋„ ํ•œ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋†€๋ผ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฒกํ„ฐ๋“ค์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ํˆด์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ HTOL๋กœ, ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋ฒกํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์ž๊ฒฉ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฒกํ„ฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณธ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์—์„œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ์žฅ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๊ณ ์žฅ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์›จ์ดํผ์™€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฌ๋‹ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ •๋ง๋กœ... ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋“  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ CEO๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  AI๋ฅผ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„์— 0์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ 40%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์™€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ์—…๋“ค๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์„ค ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ž‘์—…์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด์ œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ, ํŠนํžˆ ๊ณ ์ถœ๋ ฅ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์„ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €ํฌ ํ˜„์žฅ์— ์˜ค์‹œ๋ฉด AI ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma) ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋ž€ํžˆ ์ œ์ž‘๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์™€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ์–‘์ชฝ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christian Schwab: Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division And then my last question, Gayn is, last call, you were quite enthusiastic about the TAM for AI-driven products for you to be 3 to 5x bigger than silicon carbide. And is there a time frame that we should be thinking about that, that becomes evident? Again, I kind of asked it on the backlog question, but I'll ask it again more directly. Are we going to see material orders from 1 or 2 customers this fiscal year? Or is that something that is just too early to know, but yet you feel confident it's going to come. How should we be thinking about that?**Christian Schwab:** ์ง€๋‚œ ํ†ตํ™”์—์„œ AI ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ TAM(์ „์ฒด ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ)์ด ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ๋ณด๋‹ค 3~5๋ฐฐ ํด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์งˆ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ, ์ข€ ๋” ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฌป๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„์— 1~2๊ฐœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์•„์ง ์•Œ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ด๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director I feel the latter is the easy out to say that I'm confident they'll come. I think timing it can both be a lot more guidance than we're providing right now. But there's also just some of these evaluations as we prove it, the customers can actually start contemplating how many and when they would want to install them. The new evaluation, I think we already alluded to it, it's for a processor that is expected to go into volume production at the end of next year or in the second half of next year. So tools would be needed to be going in, in that time line. So if you just -- we do fiscal years through, in this case, fiscal '26 is through May of '26. If you talk about calendar '26, there's a lot of opportunities in play that need to play out that would be production for both wafer level as well as package. So it's not that far away. I mean, even something that seems like is 1 year away in our space, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to actually ramp a customer to be 1 year out. And so we'll keep focused on this thing as we get a little closer, we'd hope to give you answers. To be candid, this will probably feel like you'll hear enthusiasm and we think we're winning and the customer has gotten good results. Those will be early indicators. And then we're going to surprise everyone with a large production order, not unlike what happened with the first wafer level system, except for some of these customers are just significantly bigger.**Gayn Erickson:** ํ›„์ž๊ฐ€ ํ™•์‹ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ž…์ฆํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ์–ธ์ œ ์„ค์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ‰๊ฐ€๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‰๊ฐ€ ๊ฑด์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‚ด๋…„ ๋ง์ด๋‚˜ ๋‚ด๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์–‘์‚ฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ผ์ •์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์ด ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ 2026 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„๋Š” 2026๋…„ 5์›”๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„์„ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋ฉด, ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๊ณผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ์–‘์ชฝ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฉ€์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‹œ์ ์ด์ฃ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š” 1๋…„ ํ›„๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๋„, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ 1๋…„ ํ›„ ์–‘์‚ฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๋ฉด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ž‘์—…์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์‹œ์ ์ด ์ข€ ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์ง€๋ฉด์„œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ ๊ณ„์† ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ด์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์Šน๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ง€ํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋†€๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Your next question is coming from Jed Dorsheimer.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Jed Dorsheimer๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Mark Shooter: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division You have Mark Shooter on for Jed Dorsheimer. Congrats on the success this quarter and the announcements for the AI customers, and that's great. Can you give us a little color on how should we think about the engagement in the qualification cycle for these customers? Do you need a new product cycle to occur? Like do you need to slide in between Blackwell and Ruben? And if you can give us a little bit of what's it like in the room with the customers? Is the tenor of these guys risk aversion? Or is the overwhelming demand spur some willingness to try a new equipment like Aehr?**Mark Shooter:** William Blair & Company์—์„œ Jed Dorsheimer๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•ด Mark Shooter๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์™€ AI ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ฐธ์—ฌ ๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด Blackwell๊ณผ Ruben ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ผ์–ด๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋ฏธํŒ… ํ˜„์žฅ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค์ง€๋„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ด๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑํ–ฅ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜ ํšŒํ”ผ์ ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์••๋„์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ Aehr ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ•ด๋ณผ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director That's actually, there's a lot in no doubt. Those are good ones. All right. So let me talk about sort of the qualification process. So far, in the engagements that we've had so far, we don't need a new product, okay? So we are doing some things depending on their pitch of their probe cards, which we call our WaferPaks, we may need to do some things specifically for that. We have some design for testability features that we have been touting to our customer base that allow them very short lead time, high-volume, low-cost WaferPaks. We can also supply them at higher cost and a little bit longer lead time if they don't hit those DFT targets. We've got some of both. And so like one of the engagements, we made a conversation related to them about their pitch of their devices. And we're like, wow, you happen to choose a pitch on these so many pins, that's driving the cost of your WaferPak up. And they're like, well, why didn't you tell me before and they kind of joke because they hadn't talked to us before. And they're like, well, this will be no problem to cut in for our next generation, but we're just going to have to live with it on the current one. So they're engaged with us in kind of a roll up the sleeves working. The qualification in some cases, is just validating that we can do the same type of DFT and power delivery as we've done with the other processors on their devices. I think customers, I get it. They're kind of like, it's hard to imagine that we can really pull this off if they haven't seen it with their own eyes. And so we're just showing it and demonstrating it to them somewhat like what we ended up doing with the first silicon carbide customers. And then at some point, people get it. Now one thing that also seems to be going on is these are pretty visible. I already said that these systems are sitting on an OSAT. And there aren't that many of them, okay? So especially not that many of the biggest, right? There's a lot of people out there that are aware of the success of this. And even though the analysts are still trying to figure out everything, there's a lot of people that are pretty intimate knowledge and seem to know what's happening. And so they're like, can you do -- can I do it that way, too. So they're leaning in. So it's a little less of complete disbelief, can you do it, but more of can you prove it for me. Now from a timing perspective, it's just typical the industry, normally, you -- when people are buying test equipment, like semiconductor test equipment like ours, you do it at some disconnect, either you're putting a new fab in if you're an IBM or it's with some new product or it just simply the volume is growing so fast that you want to buy a tool that has more output per dollar or so. So in this case, outside of one supplier, everybody is using TSMC today and eventually, Tesla will be using the Samsung stuff. But it's not like there's a new fab, although there are new fabs coming online. People are just giving access to those TSMC wafers and then want to be able to test them and they either do it in a package for burn-in on something like Sonoma or system-level test or off -- all the way back at the rack. So customers are engaging because they need to buy capacity for these new products and for new things coming out. So it is a fairer way of looking at it to look at the intercept between product A to product B. That's at least what's been communicated to us with this latest one we just announced, okay? And similarly, our first customer intercepted us with their new -- their transition to a newer device. We announced that a year ago. So that's pretty typical. And sometimes that's the gating item of their timing. And sometimes that's fast or slow, but it's sort of you need to time it with that. Just the tenor or the tone, so if you guys -- people that have followed us understand that our value proposition and our pitch, if you will, is that semiconductors are growing extremely high. So within -- it took 40 years to get to $500 billion, it's going to take less than $10 billion to double that, okay? Much of that is driven by either directly AI or all of the pieces surrounding all of the explosive data center growth, okay? What's happening is people -- these devices are not more reliable for multiple reasons. The smaller and smaller geometries and the fact that they're putting multiple devices into one package because they can't make the devices any bigger are driving the requirements for reliability and burn-in test. And if you look at the road maps from all of the players, every single one of them from all of the NVIDIA products to everyone else, from the ASIC suppliers, all their products going forward are pulling multiple compute processors to make it generic in a single package, along with many, many stacks of HBM and ultimately optical I/O chipsets. They put these on these complex advanced packaging substrates, and they're extremely expensive. And I always remind people, the reason you burn them in is because they fail. And when they fail, you take out all the other devices. So the value proposition, if someone could ever do wafer-level burn-in is overwhelming because the cost of the wafer level burn-in is cheaper than the yield loss. I actually alluded to it in my prepared remarks that our lead customer for packaged part burn-in is going to do a couple of few generations in packaged part and then wants to switch to wafer level. So what are they going to do with all those Sonomas? It doesn't matter. The yield advantage of moving it to wafer level pays for it all. So that's a thing -- that's a macro trend heading our way. And it's not just AI. It happened to us in the silicon carbide side of things. We see it in stacked memories in both DRAM and flash. We see it in other complex devices in GaN that are going to automotive that are mixing different devices together and why it's driving for wafer level. And these large trends are good for both reliability as a tide that's rising for all and really good for us, but also for our unique products with particularly the Sonoma and the high-power wafer-level burn-in systems we have with our FOX products.**Gayn Erickson:** ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜์‹ฌํ•  ์—ฌ์ง€์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ž๊ฒฉ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์™€์˜ ํ˜‘์˜์—์„œ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๋ธŒ ์นด๋“œ ์‚ฌ์–‘์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ WaferPaks๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์—๊ฒŒ ์ ๊ทน ํ™๋ณดํ•ด์˜จ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์šฉ์ด์„ฑ ์„ค๊ณ„(DFT) ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์งง์€ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰, ์ €๋น„์šฉ์˜ WaferPaks๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด DFT ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋น„์šฉ๊ณผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๊ธด ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์™€์˜ ๋ฏธํŒ…์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ํ”ผ์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ "์™€, ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ํ•€์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ”ผ์น˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์…จ๋„ค์š”. ์ด๊ฒŒ WaferPak ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋”๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด "์™œ ์ง„์ž‘ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋†๋‹ด์กฐ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”. ์ €ํฌ์™€ ์ด์ „์— ์–˜๊ธฐํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด์„œ "๋‹ค์Œ ์„ธ๋Œ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์—†์ด ์ค„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์ œํ’ˆ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์†Œ๋งค๋ฅผ ๊ฑท์–ด๋ถ™์ด๊ณ  ํ˜‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๊ณผ์ •์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋“ค์—์„œ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ DFT์™€ ์ „๋ ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์—์„œ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ˆˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ์„œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ(silicon carbide) ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹œ์—ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์–ด๋А ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ํ•œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์ด ๊ฝค ๋ˆˆ์— ๋ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด ์ด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์€ OSAT์— ์„ค์น˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณณ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ ? ํŠนํžˆ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์€ ๋”์šฑ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์„ฑ๊ณต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์€ ์•„์ง ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด "๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ถˆ์‹ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ "์ •๋ง ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, "์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•ด ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๋Š” ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋Š” ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ํŒจํ„ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ†ต ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ๋œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. IBM์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒน(fab)์„ ์„ค์น˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋ณผ๋ฅจ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋‹น ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ถœ๋ ฅ์„ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํˆด์„ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ฃ .

์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ TSMC๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ํ…Œ์Šฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ผ์„ฑ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒน๋“ค์ด ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒน์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด TSMC ์›จ์ดํผ์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์šฉ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€๋กœ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ž™๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€์„œ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜์ฃ . ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œํ’ˆ A์—์„œ ์ œํ’ˆ B๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜ ์ง€์ ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๊ณต์ •ํ•œ ๊ด€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•œ ์ตœ์‹  ๊ฑด์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „๋‹ฌ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์ €ํฌ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ €ํฌ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ 1๋…„ ์ „์— ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํŒจํ„ด์€ ๊ฝค ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ์„ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋А๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ์— ๋งž์ถฐ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ํ†ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€์ผœ๋ด ์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ œ์•ˆ๊ณผ ํ”ผ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์‹ค ํ…๋ฐ, ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋†’์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

5์ฒœ์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ 40๋…„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋ฅผ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” 100์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋„ ์ฑ„ ์•ˆ ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ AI๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ํญ๋ฐœ์ ์ธ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ์ถ”์ง„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์˜ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’์•„์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์  ๋” ์ž‘์•„์ง€๋Š” ๊ธฐํ•˜ํ•™์  ๊ตฌ์กฐ์™€ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ(burn-in test)์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์˜ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, NVIDIA ์ œํ’ˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด๋“ค, ASIC ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊นŒ์ง€, ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ผ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ง‘์ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋™์‹œ์— ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ HBM ์Šคํƒ๊ณผ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ด‘ํ•™ I/O ์นฉ์…‹๊นŒ์ง€ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์„ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง• ๊ธฐํŒ ์œ„์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋น„์Œ‰๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ์žฅ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ ์žฅ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฉด, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ง๊ฐ€๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer-level burn-in)์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ์••๋„์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ˆ˜์œจ ์†์‹ค๋ณด๋‹ค ์ €๋ ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ค€๋น„๋œ ๋ฐœ์–ธ์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ๋ช‡ ์„ธ๋Œ€ ๋™์•ˆ์€ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•œ ํ›„ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ์กด์˜ ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma) ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์–ป๋Š” ์ˆ˜์œจ ์ด์ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•˜๊ณ ๋„ ๋‚จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์‹œ์  ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” AI์—๋งŒ ๊ตญํ•œ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ(silicon carbide) ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋„ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ , DRAM๊ณผ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ ์ธต ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ(stacked memories) ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋™์ฐจ์šฉ GaN์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ณตํ•ฉ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์—์„œ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์„ ํ˜ผํ•ฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜์„ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํฐ ํ๋ฆ„๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ƒ์Šน ์กฐ๋ฅ˜๋กœ์„œ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ข‹์„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ํŠนํžˆ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ Sonoma์™€ FOX ์ œํ’ˆ๊ตฐ์˜ ๊ณ ์ „๋ ฅ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Mark Shooter: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Gayn, all that color is very helpful. To dig in a bit around that last part of the Sonoma versus the FOX products, what are the -- what's the gating factor of why customers are going first with the Sonoma and not right to wafer level burning? What needs to be proven out for wafer level burn-in for those customers? And how -- I'm assuming there's a sales cycle there of you'd like to start with Sonoma and then push people to wafer-level burn-in. So how does that transition [ builds ]?**Mark Shooter:** ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์„ค๋ช…์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma)์™€ FOX ์ œํ’ˆ ๋น„๊ต์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ์š”, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer level burn-in)์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋จผ์ € ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š” ์ œ์•ฝ ์š”์ธ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์š”? ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์ด ์ž…์ฆ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ์œ ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์—… ์‚ฌ์ดํด์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ „ํ™˜ ๊ณผ์ •์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋˜๋‚˜์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Yes. The way we look at it is we say we're just neutral. If you want to do package part or you want to do wafer level, we love you both, okay? It's not easy to just go talk someone out of whatever it is they're used to. So in this case, we don't have to. We just say, listen, we think we make the best machine for qualification reliability of your complex packages with Sonoma. They can test all the processors, HBM and all the chipsets inside of it in a single pass during your calls. If you want, we'll do it in production as well. And we're now adding automation to it. But if you'd like to kind of go to the next step, you could do -- take the high failing devices out of there and do a wafer-level burn-in of them before you put them in those packages. And our data would suggest you don't need to burn them in again. But if you still need a little burn-in, that may be fine, but you don't want to have the massive yield loss. Some of these processors have 4 and 8 CPU chips in them, right, compute chips and have another 6 or 8 HBM stacks on it. Just the CoWoS substrate is extremely expensive and rare. And so it makes sense to go to wafer level. But to be candid, 1 year ago, 12 months ago, we didn't even have the first order. There was not one machine in the world that could do a wafer level burn-in of an AI processor, okay? None. We're the only ones, and we now have just shipped our first systems and we're at the front end of this thing. I understand people are sort of in a doubting mode. Let us prove it to them. And for those that are on the call, if you have a processor, we can -- you can sit down with us on our nondisclosure, we can tell you which exact specific files we need, and we can do a paper benchmark and give you an answer within a couple of days as to the feasibility of your devices. And so far, we have not found one that we haven't been able to test that we've been given that detailed data on. So I'm sure there are some out there. But for now, we're on a roll.**Gayn Erickson:** ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ด€์ ์€ ์ค‘๋ฆฝ์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ํŒŒํŠธ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋“  ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์„ ์›ํ•˜๋“ , ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ดํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋„๋ก ์„ค๋“ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Sonoma๋กœ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”. ์ด ์žฅ๋น„๋Š” ์ฝœ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๋‹จ์ผ ํŒจ์Šค๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ, HBM, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ถ€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์นฉ์…‹์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ƒ์‚ฐ์—์„œ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ž๋™ํ™” ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋†’์€ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿ‰๋ฅ ์„ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์„ ์„ ๋ณ„ํ•ด์„œ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์— ๋„ฃ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer-level burn-in)์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์„ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ˆ˜์œจ ์†์‹ค์€ ํ”ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” 4๊ฐœ์—์„œ 8๊ฐœ์˜ CPU ์นฉ, ์ฆ‰ ์ปดํ“จํŠธ ์นฉ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ 6๊ฐœ์—์„œ 8๊ฐœ์˜ HBM ์Šคํƒ์„ ํƒ‘์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. CoWoS ๊ธฐํŒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋น„์‹ธ๊ณ  ํฌ๊ท€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, 1๋…„ ์ „, 12๊ฐœ์›” ์ „๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์žฅ๋น„๋Š” ๋‹จ ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ˜€์š”. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์„ ์ถœํ•˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ์ตœ์ „์„ ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์˜๊ตฌ์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ†ตํ™”์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘์— ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋น„๊ณต๊ฐœ ๊ณ„์•ฝ ํ•˜์— ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•‰์•„์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ํŒŒ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŽ˜์ดํผ ๋ฒค์น˜๋งˆํฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋‚ด์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ์ ์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ƒ์„ธํ•œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณต๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘์—์„œ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Your next question is coming from Bradford Ferguson.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Bradford Ferguson๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Bradford Ferguson: Halter Ferguson Financial, Inc. Gayn, I'm curious about the cost to wait until you get to the motherboard or the package part or the final part. When we were talking about silicon carbide, you could have 24 or 48 SiC devices on -- in one inverter. And then the whole [ inverter is bad ], maybe that's $1,000 or $2,000, but the retail price on these NVIDIA is what $40,000?**Bradford Ferguson:** ๊ฒŒ์ธ, ๋งˆ๋”๋ณด๋“œ๋‚˜ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ, ๋˜๋Š” ์ตœ์ข… ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ธ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— 24๊ฐœ ๋˜๋Š” 48๊ฐœ์˜ SiC ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ „์ฒด ์ธ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ์žฅ ๋‚˜๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ 1,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ 2,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ •๋„์ผ ํ…๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ NVIDIA ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์†Œ๋งค๊ฐ€๋Š” 4๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Well, the rumor is they have really high margins. And I'd love it if the customers would give me credit for their sales price. They really only give me credit for their cost, but fair enough. But their cost is significantly higher than any silicon carbide module ever would be. Fair enough. Yes. I mean it's -- and by the way, to me, the craziest thing is how many people are doing it at the rack level. Like you're talking about all the way at the computer level side of things and burning it in. And obviously, a failure there is some -- a lot more expensive than it would be all the way back at wafer level. So you want to move -- in our industry, we refer to shift left. You want it to go as far left in the process as possible because it's way more cost effective. In this case, we have the first 2 steps in the left side, wafer level and when it's just the module level before that module is then put actually into the system level where you'd start to see all of the power supplies and everything else on it, like the GB200 module itself. And then you'd -- certainly before it goes over to Super Micro or to Dell or something in some main [ frame work ]. So one thing to put in perspective, and I don't think this is the value proposition yet, but it is interesting. We know that people are doing this burn-in at the rack level or the computer level, right? When you're in the computer level, basically, what burn-in does is you're basically applying stress condition of power via voltages of current and temperature. And what it does is it accelerates the life of the part without killing it. So I can take a device and in 24 hours make it look like it's 1 year old. And if it hasn't died by then, it's going to last 20 years. There's all kinds of books on it. You can read it, Google it or something, and you can find out about the basic process of burn-in and why you do it, okay? The key here is you want to do it in 24 hours or 4 hours or 2 hours or something along those lines to get the infant mortality rate out so it doesn't shift to the customer or take down your large language model compilation, okay? Now when you're at system level, you can't run that rack at 125 degrees C. Everything will burn up. In fact, those racks are running cold water through them. They're probably running 30 degrees C temperature maximum. I know of a company that was trying to do some things to try and get an isolation of the GPU or the processors to 60 degrees C and their burn-in time was measured in days at the system level. That's what they were doing. Now by moving it to wafer level, we can actually run the devices at a junction temperature at 125 degrees C, which is an accelerant that's more than 10x. We can also run the voltages extremely closely to their edge, and we can get the burn-in times to come down. So when we do that, we're actually applying only power to the processor, not the HBM, not all the inefficiencies everywhere else, not the rack and et cetera, just to the processor, and we can do it for a significantly less amount of time. The long and short of it is I can burn it in to the same level of quality at a fraction of the power. Now I don't think anyone is going to buy our system because of that per se, although there's some argument for it. But you know it's hard, getting a permit for a megawatt burn-in floor for your racks. So people may buy our systems because they can actually get the power infrastructure to burn in hundreds of wafers at a time in parallel in a regular 480-volt, maybe 1,000 or multi-thousand amp circuit like we have in our building. You wouldn't be able to do that. If you had to burn in a bunch of racks in our building, you wouldn't be able to do it. But I could have 10 systems running with 9 wafers a piece and test the 100 wafers at a time with the power that I have in my facility, which is not that atypical of a facility in the Bay Area in Silicon Valley. So there is a value proposition there. In addition to the real cost savings, it might just be feasibility of power.**Gayn Erickson:** ์†Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„์ด ์ •๋ง ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋„ค์š”. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ํŒ๋งค ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์ •ํ•ด์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ธ์ •ํ•ด์ฃผ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ณต์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๋ชจ๋“ˆ๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๊ณต์ •ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ž™(rack) ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ ์ด ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ์ธ๋ฐ์š”. ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‹คํŒจ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋™ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ '์‹œํ”„ํŠธ ๋ ˆํ”„ํŠธ(shift left)'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ณต์ •์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ์™ผ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ, ์ฆ‰ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์™ผ์ชฝ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ 2๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“ˆ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“ˆ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์— ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๊ธฐ ์ „ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ฃ . ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ „์› ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์žฅ์น˜์™€ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GB200 ๋ชจ๋“ˆ ์ž์ฒด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ Super Micro๋‚˜ Dell ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฉ”์ธ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์›Œํฌ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์•„์ง ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ž™ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์ด๋‚˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์ „์••, ์ „๋ฅ˜, ์˜จ๋„๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ „๋ ฅ์˜ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ์กฐ๊ฑด์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์„ ์ฃฝ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์ˆ˜๋ช…์„ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋ฅผ 24์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋งŒ์— 1๋…„ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ ์žฅ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด 20๋…„์€ ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ฑ…๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฝ์–ด๋ณด์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•ด๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค์™€ ์™œ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•ต์‹ฌ์€ 24์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋‚˜ 4์‹œ๊ฐ„, ๋˜๋Š” 2์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„์˜ ์งง์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด์— ์ด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๊ณ ์žฅ๋ฅ (infant mortality rate)์„ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ „๊ฐ€๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์–ธ์–ด ๋ชจ๋ธ ์ปดํŒŒ์ผ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์ด ์ค‘๋‹จ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์—†๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด์ œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ž™์„ ์„ญ์”จ 125๋„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํƒ€๋ฒ„๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ž™๋“ค์€ ๋ƒ‰๊ฐ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ˆœํ™˜์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉฐ ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๋Œ€ 30๋„ ์ •๋„์—์„œ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GPU๋‚˜ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ 60๋„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฒฉ๋ฆฌ์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋ฉฐ์น ์”ฉ ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ ‘ํ•ฉ ์˜จ๋„๋ฅผ 125๋„์—์„œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ด๋Š” 10๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ€์† ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ „์••์„ ํ•œ๊ณ„์ ์— ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊น๊ฒŒ ์šด์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‹จ์ถ•์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์—๋งŒ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. HBM์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ, ๋ž™ ๋“ฑ์—๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์˜ค์ง ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์—๋งŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์งง์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์•ˆ์— ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ์†Œ๋ชจ๋Ÿ‰์„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ค„์ด๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๋™์ผํ•œ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์„ค๋“๋ ฅ์€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ž™์šฉ ๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๊ธ‰ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ํ”Œ๋กœ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ๋ฅผ ๋™์‹œ์— ๋ณ‘๋ ฌ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ 480๋ณผํŠธ, 1,000์•”ํŽ˜์–ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ์•”ํŽ˜์–ด ํšŒ๋กœ์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ž™์„ ๋ฒˆ์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์„ค์—์„œ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ์ „๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ฐ๊ฐ 9๊ฐœ ์›จ์ดํผ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” 10๊ฐœ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋™์‹œ์— ์šด์˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— 100๊ฐœ ์›จ์ดํผ๋ฅผ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜๋ฐธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฒ ์ด ์—๋ฆฌ์–ด์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์‹œ์„ค๊ณผ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๋น„์šฉ ์ ˆ๊ฐ ์™ธ์—๋„ ์ „๋ ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์˜ ์‹คํ˜„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Bradford Ferguson: Halter Ferguson Financial, Inc. And so you mentioned the high-bandwidth flash. I'm hearing from some systems makers that they're focused on burn-in more just because of how expensive it is to scrap the whole motherboard or whatever. Do you have any kind of end to high-bandwidth memory? Or is it mainly the high-bandwidth flash?**Bradford Ferguson:** ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ œ์กฐ์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฉ”์ธ๋ณด๋“œ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์›Œ๋‚™ ๋น„์‹ธ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)์— ๋” ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์ชฝ์—๋„ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ์ง€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Yes. I mean we talked that kind of our first -- our belief was that the engagements and the interest was first on the HB -- on the flash side of things. There is some things -- there's discussions on the DRAM side of things. I mean people are really scrambling to try and solve that through all kinds of mechanisms. And I won't get in all the technological things that we understand. There's very different implications when you talk about Micron, Samsung and Hynix and what they do and how they stack their memories and how they test them and burn them in that have kind of key differentiating features amongst themselves that make test interesting. We have a pretty good insight to that. I'm certainly not going to talk about it publicly, but that makes that interesting. Bottom line is high bandwidth memory and then eventually high bandwidth flash needs to be burned in and needs to have a cycle and stress to remove that somehow or it's going to show up as it has been in the processors, in the AI stacks. And that's widely known and understood. And NVIDIA came out last, what, 6 months ago, yelled everybody and said, you need to figure out how to burn these things in before you ship them to me. We're sick and tired of it. So I'm not creating rumors. Those are widely understood reports. And so right now, what we're seeing in the test community is sort of people overuse the Wild West, but there's just people scrambling for good ideas on how to address this and running as fast as they can. And it makes it exciting every day when you show up to work and you've got people that are like, how can you help us? So I love our hand. I love the cards we're dealt right now. I love our position. I love our visibility that we have within pretty much all -- I think we can now say we have communicated with every single one of the AI players. And we have a line into them and some thread either package or wafer level related that gives us some great insights. And I think we may be completely unique in that realm. So I think the HBF is -- it looks pretty interesting. Again, that stuff takes time. But more and more things are breaking the infrastructure of test because of power at wafer level, and that's a good thing for us. We're really good at that. Our system, I just throw out 3.5 kilowatts per wafer and most people would not know what that means. That's crazy. That's -- I mean, the world has wafer probers, thousands of those installed that has 300 watts of power capability. If you try to go get a prober that has 1,500 to 2,000 watts, it's a specialized $0.5 million prober. It's what we ship with the CP to the hard disk drive guys. That's one wafer's capacity. Our systems can do 3,500 watts on each of 9 wafers in one machine. Nobody can do 3.5 watts on 1 machine, okay -- I'm sorry, on one wafer on one machine. And so people are coming to us because of the thermal capabilities that are unique. Many, if not most of them are patented around the whole WaferPak concept and what we -- in the blade where we deliver thermal power without a wafer prober to create uniformity across a 3,000-plus watt wafer is really awesome, and it's fun to talk about with the technical people. And there -- I'd say that people are quite impressed with what they hear. And so it's great to rotate people through here. And by the way, they see it. We can show them it in operation when they come. This is not a story. So I think the more and more of these things, the rising tide, the better shape we're in. And we're not abandoning our silicon carbide customers that are listening. I know they have ramps. They have opportunities. There's new fabs, there's new capacity coming on. They have new technologies. We're not abandoning the OEMs that the electric vehicle suppliers that we have met with personally and help them to develop the burn-in structures and the burn-in plans that they drive their vendors towards. We're fully committed to those guys, and we'll be there as they ramp, and we have more capacity than we ever had to be able to address their needs at a lower price point. And so I think we got that covered. We're not pivoting the company. We're just adding to it with this AI stuff.**Gayn Erickson:** ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” HB... ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์ชฝ์—์„œ ์ฐธ์—ฌ์™€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋จผ์ € ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DRAM ์ชฝ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋…ผ์˜๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜จ๊ฐ– ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋™์›ํ•ด์„œ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์• ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๋ก , ์‚ผ์„ฑ, ํ•˜์ด๋‹‰์Šค๋ฅผ ๋†“๊ณ  ๋ณผ ๋•Œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์Šคํƒํ•˜๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฒˆ์ธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์„œ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์— ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ ์ธ ์ฐจ๋ณ„ํ™” ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ ๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ๋ฅผ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ(high bandwidth memory)์™€ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ณ ๋Œ€์—ญํญ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฑฐ์ณ์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์‚ฌ์ดํด๊ณผ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋“  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๋‚˜ AI ์Šคํƒ์—์„œ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋„๋ฆฌ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง€๊ณ  ์ดํ•ด๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

NVIDIA๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ 6๊ฐœ์›” ์ „์ฏค ๋‚˜์„œ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ณค์ฃ . "์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฒˆ์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ผ. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์ง€์ณค๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฃจ๋จธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋„๋ฆฌ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ - ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋ถ€๊ฐœ์ฒ™์‹œ๋Œ€(Wild West)๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋‚จ์šฉํ•˜๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ - ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ข‹์€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ„์ฃผํžˆ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ผ ์ถœ๊ทผํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์™€์„œ "์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํŒจ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์–ด์ง„ ์นด๋“œ๋“ค์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํฌ์ง€์…˜์ด ์ข‹๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ๋„ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๋ชจ๋“  AI ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๋“ค๊ณผ ์†Œํ†ตํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€๋“  ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์ด๋“  ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹ค๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ธ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ HBF๋Š” ๊ฝค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์›Œ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์—์„œ์˜ ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ฌด๋„ˆ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์ •๋ง ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์›จ์ดํผ๋‹น 3.5ํ‚ฌ๋กœ์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์˜๋ฏธ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ˆ˜์น˜์ฃ . ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์„ค์น˜๋œ ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๋Œ€์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„๋“ค์€ 300์™€ํŠธ ์ „๋ ฅ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1,500~2,000์™€ํŠธ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด, 50๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์งœ๋ฆฌ ํŠน์ˆ˜ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ์จ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋“œ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ CP์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ํ•œ ์žฅ๋น„์—์„œ 9๊ฐœ ์›จ์ดํผ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์— 3,500์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ํ•œ ์žฅ๋น„์—์„œ 3.5์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ... ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํ•œ ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— 3.5ํ‚ฌ๋กœ์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ๋งŒ์˜ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ์—ด์  ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด WaferPak ์ „์ฒด ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ํŠนํ—ˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ์›จ์ดํผ ํ”„๋กœ๋ฒ„ ์—†์ด ์—ด์ „๋ ฅ์„ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜์—ฌ 3,000์™€ํŠธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์›จ์ดํผ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ท ์ผ์„ฑ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ธ”๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ง„๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ณ ์š”. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ๋ช…๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ˆœํ™˜ ๋ฐฐ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ค์ œ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ด๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์•„์งˆ์ˆ˜๋ก, ์ƒ์Šนํ•˜๋Š” ์กฐ๋ฅ˜ ์†์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋” ์ข‹์•„์ง„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋žจํ”„์—…์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒน๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ๊ฐ€๋™๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์™€ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ์ „๊ธฐ์ฐจ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์ธ OEM๋“ค์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ „๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋Š˜๋ ค๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋” ๋‚ฎ์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์š”๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์–ด๋А ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ง€ AI ๋ถ„์•ผ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Bradford Ferguson: Halter Ferguson Financial, Inc. On silicon carbide -- this would be my last one. Thank you for your generosity. On semi, I think one reason for their success is how aggressively they adopted Aehr Test Systems, FOX-XP systems. And we have a pretty large bankruptcy that happened with one of their competitors. Is there some kind of risk for the other chip makers if they don't take burden more seriously that it could spell issues for them?**Bradford Ferguson:** ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ(silicon carbide)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋˜๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”. ๊ด€๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜จ์„ธ๋ฏธ(On Semi)์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” Aehr Test Systems์˜ FOX-XP ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์ž…ํ–ˆ๋А๋ƒ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ํŒŒ์‚ฐ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นฉ ์ œ์กฐ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ„ํ—˜์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director So let me answer it this way. I have been invited to be a keynote speaker. I've spoken at multiple technical conferences around the world in silicon carbide and gallium nitride conferences. I have sat on several panels, and I have been very -- almost emotional in some of those discussions because we have seen the test and burn-in data of more -- almost all of the wafers in the world, okay? That's pretty bold, okay? Certainly more than anyone by far, okay? Everybody would like to think that they are special and their devices are just so much better than everybody else's. The reality is these devices fail during burn-in that represent the actual duty cycle or what's called the mission profile of electric vehicles. What that means is if you do not burn them in, it is our belief and the data that we have, they will fail during the life of the car period. We've talked about that. I think I've quoted several times, whatever you do, it is my opinion, never buy an electric vehicle that didn't have burn-in for something in the 6 to 18 hours depending on the size of the engine and things like that. And there are OEM suppliers that have the data. They have failed customers who tried to qualify without doing an extensive burn-in and kick them out. And there have been very large suppliers that have lost in the industry because of quality and reliability. So my call to arms for everybody is there's no reason not to do wafer level burn-in or package part if you don't want to go with us, but whatever you do, don't skip it. And we -- now with our 18-wafer system, even at high voltage, okay? So we've extended the capability with more capabilities, the cost of test at high voltage on our system with a capital depreciation of 5 years, et cetera, is about $0.05 per die on an 8-inch silicon carbide inverter wafer per hour -- per hour. You can do 24 hours of burn-in for $0.12 a die. And we have been very clear with that to all the OEMs, and they understand it. And so they drive for a level of quality that they can measure directly on our tools from their suppliers. And I think there is a difference between the people that have adopted a high level of quality and reliability and their market share. And all I'll say is I think ON Semiconductor has done an incredible job. In 2019, I think the year before, they had done $10 million in silicon carbide, and they're now kind of neck and neck for market leadership, and they have won well more than their fair share of the industry across the -- and I'm just repeating what they have said, "across Europe, the U.S., Japan and even China." They have done really, really well, and I commend them for that.**Gayn Erickson:** ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กฐ์—ฐ์„ค์ž๋กœ ์ดˆ์ฒญ๋ฐ›์•„ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ(silicon carbide)์™€ ๊ฐˆ๋ฅจ ๋‚˜์ดํŠธ๋ผ์ด๋“œ(gallium nitride) ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ฐจ๋ก€ ๊ฐ•์—ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํŒจ๋„์—๋„ ์ฐธ์„ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋…ผ์˜์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์ด ๋  ์ •๋„๋กœ ์—ด์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์›จ์ดํผ์˜ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์™€ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ด์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฑด ๊ฝค ๋Œ€๋‹ดํ•œ ์ฃผ์žฅ์ด์ฃ ? ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ ๋“€ํ‹ฐ ์‚ฌ์ดํด(duty cycle)์ด๋‚˜ ์ „๊ธฐ์ฐจ์˜ ๋ฏธ์…˜ ํ”„๋กœํŒŒ์ผ(mission profile)์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ฑด์—์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ๊ณผ์ • ์ค‘์— ๊ณ ์žฅ๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์ฐจ๋Ÿ‰ ์ˆ˜๋ช… ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ณ ์žฅ์ด ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์ด์ž ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์—”์ง„ ํฌ๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ 6์‹œ๊ฐ„์—์„œ 18์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„์˜ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ๊ฑฐ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ „๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” OEM ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์—†์ด ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ธ์ฆ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ ค๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์‹คํŒจํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ํ‡ด์ถœ์‹œํ‚จ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ’ˆ์งˆ๊ณผ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ํฐ ์†์‹ค์„ ๋ณธ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ์•ˆ์€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer level burn-in)์ด๋‚˜ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…”๋„ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์‹œ๋“  ์ด ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฑด๋„ˆ๋›ฐ์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ 18์›จ์ดํผ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ์ „์••์—์„œ๋„ ํ™•์žฅ๋œ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

5๋…„ ์ž๋ณธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ€์ƒ๊ฐ ๋“ฑ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ๊ณ ์ „์•• ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ณ„์‚ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, 8์ธ์น˜ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ์ธ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋‹น ๋‹ค์ด(die)๋‹น ์•ฝ 0.05๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 24์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด๋„ ๋‹ค์ด๋‹น 0.12๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ชจ๋“  OEM๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค๋„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ €ํฌ ์žฅ๋น„๋กœ ์ง์ ‘ ์ธก์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ๊ณผ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ์„ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ON Semiconductor๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋’€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2019๋…„, ๊ทธ ์ „๋…„๋„์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ 1์ฒœ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ ๋„ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ณผ ์–ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ž€ํžˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋งํ•œ ๋ฐ”์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด "์œ ๋Ÿฝ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ, ์ผ๋ณธ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ๋„" ์—…๊ณ„ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ์ •๋‹นํ•œ ๋ชซ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋’€๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๊ณ , ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฐฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Your next question is coming from Larry Chlebina.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Larry Chlebina๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC The news today on the AMD hookup with OpenAI, does that accelerate your evaluation process that you have with that second process? Or does that put more pressure on getting that done?**Larry Chlebina:** AMD์™€ OpenAI ํ˜‘๋ ฅ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ธ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค์˜ ํ‰๊ฐ€ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ์š”์ธ์ด ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์••๋ฐ•์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director We have not talked to the level of detail to determine who it is. We've given enough hints that it's amongst the top suppliers of AI. It's not one of the ASIC guys. So I'm going to try and avoid being more specific. I will restate we are in conversation with every one of the suppliers, and I will then say, including those guys, okay? So my interpretation of that is, honestly, just sort of warms my heart to see the different people's commitment to the different types of processors. I mean, without going into whether they are or could or might already be a customer or not, one thing about AMDs, and we've used that, again, not as an endorsement to them. We've used them as one of the examples because their MI325 has 8 processor chips in addition to, I think, at least that many HBM stacks plus the chipset in one substrate. If there's anyone that ought to be doing wafer-level burn-in, they would be amongst them, okay? But for example, right now, we provide opportunities for our customers, including the likes of those guys to buy our tools for their burn-in requirements for qualifications, either themselves or to use it at one of the many test houses that have our systems to use our systems for package pump burn-in for the lowest cost alternative to things like system-level test systems that are being used out there. And if the most advanced process would be to do wafer level burn-in over time. So I won't comment on anything more than that, sorry, Larry. But I think in general, I think good news for the processor market is generally good for us right now.**Gayn Erickson:** ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•  ๋งŒํผ ์„ธ๋ถ€์ ์ธ ๋…ผ์˜๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ๋ถ„์•ผ ์ตœ๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๋Š” ํžŒํŠธ๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ASIC ์—…์ฒด๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ์— ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ํ—Œ์‹ ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธ์ง€, ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, AMD์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ AMD๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด๋ณธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด์ฆ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์˜ˆ์‹œ๋กœ ๋“  ์ด์œ ๋Š” MI325๊ฐ€ 8๊ฐœ์˜ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์นฉ๊ณผ ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ์˜ HBM ์Šคํƒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์นฉ์…‹์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ธฐํŒ์— ํƒ‘์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(wafer-level burn-in)์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ ?

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ž๊ฒฉ ๊ฒ€์ฆ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ง์ ‘ ์ €ํฌ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ํŽŒํ”„ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ €๋น„์šฉ์˜ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ง„๋ณด๋œ ๊ณต์ •์€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃ„์†กํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋Œ€์ฒด๋กœ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC The optical IO opportunity, is that going to involve actually new machines instead of upgrading existing machines? Is that transition going to happen here shortly? Or do they have more machines that they're going to...**Larry Chlebina:** ๊ด‘ํ•™ IO ๊ธฐํšŒ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๊ธฐ์กด ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ๊ณง ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ...
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director The forecast includes both. So more upgrades and more new machines.**Gayn Erickson:** ์ „๋ง์—๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์™€ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC They're going to be running out of machines upgrade, I don't think sooner, right?**Larry Chlebina:** ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณง ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ ?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Yes. But there's also a scenario where they also have a bunch of products on the current machines that haven't gone away. And so it's sort of while you're upgrading these systems, they're backwards compatible, so you can still use the old WaferPaks and everything on them. But nevertheless, it's both. And then the other thing in it's subtle and those that don't know it, so we introduced a couple of years ago a front end to the FOX systems that allow you for fully hands-free operation with a WaferPak aligner. So you can come up to that with FOPs in this case, for 300-millimeter with both overhead or AGV, automatic ground vehicles, with an E86 compliant port that allows you to not even come and touch the machine. And the wafers can run around the fab and they can run a burn-in cycle and then move on and go to the next step of test. And...**Gayn Erickson:** ๋„ค, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ์กด ์žฅ๋น„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๋‚˜๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ์—๋„ ํ•˜์œ„ ํ˜ธํ™˜์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ธฐ์กด WaferPak์ด๋‚˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณ„์† ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•ด๋‹น๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€ ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ชจ๋ฅด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— FOX ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ํ”„๋ก ํŠธ ์—”๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋„์ž…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด WaferPak ์–ผ๋ผ์ด๋„ˆ๋กœ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ•ธ์ฆˆํ”„๋ฆฌ ์šด์˜์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 300๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ„ฐ์šฉ FOP๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์„œ ์˜ค๋ฒ„ํ—ค๋“œ๋‚˜ AGV(์ž๋™ ์ง€์ƒ ์šด๋ฐ˜์ฒด) ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ณ , E86 ํ˜ธํ™˜ ํฌํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์žฅ๋น„์— ์ง์ ‘ ์†์„ ๋Œˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ์ดํผ๋“ค์ด ํŒน ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์ˆœํ™˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ดํด(burn-in cycle)์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ด๋™ํ•ด์„œ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ...
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC You can upgrade them with the automation as well.**Larry Chlebina:** ์ž๋™ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Exactly. So we took what -- we actually took their tools that they had bought in the past with our older WaferPak aligners and they are now upgrading to the new WaferPak Aligner, but instead of it being offline, it's integrated with the system. So that's kind of the good way. That's the advanced way of doing it. And particularly when you think about 300-millimeter fabs of like memory, big AI processors, even the silicon photonics, you kind of want to do it, that's the best way of doing it. It's full automation. But if they don't -- if they want offline, they can do that too with us.**Gayn Erickson:** ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ตฌํ˜• WaferPak ์–ผ๋ผ์ด๋„ˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ–ˆ๋˜ ํˆด์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™€์„œ, ์ด์ œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด WaferPak Aligner๋กœ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„๋ณด๋œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ํฌํ† ๋‹‰์Šค ๊ฐ™์€ 300๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ํŒน์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„์ „ ์ž๋™ํ™”์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์ธ์„ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC On this HBF opportunity, is this a different company other than who you've been working with for 1.5 years -- what's that?**Larry Chlebina:** HBF ๊ธฐํšŒ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๋‚œ 1๋…„ ๋ฐ˜ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•ด์˜จ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์™€๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Same company, evolving requirements.**Gayn Erickson:** ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ๊ณ„์† ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC I mean is there -- do you expect anything to break loose on the original enterprise flash application? Or is this going to continue on?**Larry Chlebina:** ๊ธฐ์กด ์—”ํ„ฐํ”„๋ผ์ด์ฆˆ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์—์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋ŒํŒŒ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director It kind of feels like this is -- I say trumping it, but that word means something different these days. It feels like there -- this is such an enormous opportunity to the flash guys that it's sort of like the shiny bright light that may actually be better for us. I'm not sure it's better in terms of near term, like the opportunity is as fast. We'll see. But they could configure a system. The new system configuration is a super set of the old requirements. And so we had already worked on the previous one, and we're working on an updated proposal to show them how they could build blades in our system that could do both their old devices and the new ones. So maybe that will help it be better. I think it is, but it's always interesting when things change. But the one thing, none of their old tools will work with this HB Flash.**Gayn Erickson:** ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ์น˜... ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ•‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ, ์š”์ฆ˜ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ . ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ผ์„œ, ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋ฐ๊ฒŒ ๋น›๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถˆ๋น› ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋” ๋‚˜์€์ง€, ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ๋น ๋ฅธ์ง€๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์ผœ๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์€ ๊ธฐ์กด ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์˜ ์ƒ์œ„ ์ง‘ํ•ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด์ „ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž‘์—…ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ˜„์žฌ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋œ ์ œ์•ˆ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ž‘์—… ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์กด ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์™€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ธ”๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ธฐ์กด ํˆด๋“ค์€ ์ด HB Flash์™€ ํ˜ธํ™˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC No, I wouldn't think so.**Larry Chlebina:** ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director So that's -- maybe that's a good thing for us, right?**Gayn Erickson:** ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
Larry Chlebina: Chlebina Capital Management, LLC That's all I had. I'll see you tomorrow, I guess.**Larry Chlebina:** ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด์ผ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director And Larry is just alluding to, we're going to be over -- we're here at SEMICON in Arizona, SEMICON West, and there's a CEO Summit that Chris alluded to. Although Chris, I don't know if you knew this, you were breaking up -- and it sounds like we had operator problems with the operator connection. The new one has been a lot better. So sorry about that to folks that are on the line. Operator, any other questions?**Gayn Erickson:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Larry๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์• ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋‚˜์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” SEMICON, SEMICON West์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Chris๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ CEO ์„œ๋ฐ‹์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ Chris, ์ด๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ด ๋Š์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตํ™˜์› ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ†ตํ™” ์ค‘์ด์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตํ™˜์›๋‹˜, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Operator: I'm showing there are no further questions in queue at this time. And I'd now like to hand the floor back to management for closing remarks.**Operator:** ํ˜„์žฌ ๋Œ€๊ธฐ ์ค‘์ธ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์ธ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ง์”€์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Gayn Erickson: President, CEO & Director Thank you. I was -- I meant to try and work this in. I'm going to do one little other thing. So the other one we haven't talked about, and maybe next call, we'll spend a little bit more time on. We did a deep dive last time on the AI side of things. This time was more of an update on things. But there's other products that we have. And one of the things I want to highlight is the activities that we have within package part outside of AI. It turns out that with the Incal acquisition, they have a low power and a medium power system called Echo and Tahoe that we've been shipping a lot of systems kind of quietly in the background. And recently, we've had some customers, I think, egged on by some competitors that were saying, "Oh, there isn't even doing that stuff anymore. And that's just not true. These products are beloved by the customers for their software, the flexibility, and they did a really good job. In fact, those products were the products that honestly took air out of the packaged part burn-in market because the products are just better than ours. And we still love those. And if you come on our floor, you'll see them being built right alongside of the Sonoma systems and our FOX systems as well. So I just a message out to our customers, we still love you. We're still committed to supporting those products, and we have way more manufacturing capacity than Incal ever did, so don't be timid. We're happy to continue to ship as we have, and we'll give the investors a little bit more insight on some of the systems we're building right now, some of the interesting applications that they're going into that are also another part of this overall shift of all semiconductors needing more and more reliability test from qualifications to burn-in. So with that, I thank everybody, and we appreciate your time and putting up with a little bit of the stuff going on with the call. We'll work on that and make sure we do better next time. And we appreciate you. Thank you now. Goodbye.**Gayn Erickson:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋” ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋งˆ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฝœ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์ข€ ๋” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” AI ์ชฝ์„ ์‹ฌ๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ค˜๊ณ , ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ํ˜„ํ™ฉ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ ์œ„์ฃผ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” AI ์™ธ์˜ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ™œ๋™๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Incal ์ธ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด Echo์™€ Tahoe๋ผ๋Š” ์ €์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฐ ์ค‘์ „๋ ฅ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ์šฉํžˆ ๋ฐฑ๊ทธ๋ผ์šด๋“œ์—์„œ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์˜ ๋ถ€์ถ”๊น€์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์„œ "์•„, ๊ทธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์€ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด์™€ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€ํ˜• ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in) ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ๋นผ์•—์•„์˜จ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ œํ’ˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋” ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ํ˜„์žฅ์— ์˜ค์‹œ๋ฉด ์†Œ๋…ธ๋งˆ(Sonoma) ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ FOX ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋ž€ํžˆ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ œ์กฐ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์†Œ์ค‘ํžˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ „๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ธ์นผ(Incal)์ด ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ œ์กฐ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ฃผ์ €ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ํˆฌ์ž์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์ด ์ ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ž๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ฆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฒˆ์ธ(burn-in)๊นŒ์ง€ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹ ๋ขฐ์„ฑ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฝœ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–‘ํ•ดํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์  ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you once again for your participation.**Operator:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋Š์œผ์…”๋„ ๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์ข‹์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์žฌ๋ฌด/์‚ฌ์—… ํ˜„ํ™ฉ:
- AI ๊ด€๋ จ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ž‘๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 40%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์˜ฌํ•ด๋„ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์™€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ „๋ง
- ์ฒซ AI ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ์‹œ์„ค ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ณ ์ถœ๋ ฅ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋Œ€ํญ ํ™•๋Œ€

โ€ข ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ:
- AI ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ๋Œ€๋น„ 3-5๋ฐฐ ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋น„์šฉ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์Œ
- ์ฃผ์š” AI ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ ‘์ด‰ ์ค‘

โ€ข ์ „๋žต์  ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ:
- ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์™€ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ๋ฒˆ์ธ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์œ ์—ฐํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ
- ๊ธฐ์กด ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฐ”์ด๋“œ ์‚ฌ์—…๋„ ์ง€์† ์„ฑ์žฅ ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋„์ž… ์ถ”์ง„

โ€ข ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ/๊ณผ์ œ:
- ์‹ ๊ทœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ ๋„์ž…๊นŒ์ง€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์†Œ์š”
- ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ ์˜ˆ์ธก์˜ ์–ด๋ ค์›€
- ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์›จ์ดํผ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜ ํ•„์š”์„ฑ ์ž…์ฆ