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CVS Group plc (OTCPK:CVSGF) Q4 2025 Earnings Call October 7, 2025 4:00 AM EDT Company Participants Richard William Fairman - CEO & Director Robin Alfonso - CFO & Director Paul Higgs - Chief Veterinary Officer Conference Call Participants Charles Hall - Peel Hunt LLP, Research Division Kane Slutzkin - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Andrew Whitney - Investec Bank plc, Research Division James Bayliss - Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division Charles Weston - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division Sahill Shan - Singer Capital Markets Securities Limited, Research Division Presentation Richard William Fairman CEO & Director All right. | CVS Group plc (OTCPK:CVSGF) 2025๋
4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ 2025๋
10์ 7์ผ ์ค์ 4:00 EDT ํ์ฌ ์ฐธ์์ Richard William Fairman - CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ Robin Alfonso - CFO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ Paul Higgs - ์ต๊ณ ์์์ฌ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์ฐธ์์ Charles Hall - Peel Hunt LLP, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ Kane Slutzkin - Deutsche Bank AG, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ Andrew Whitney - Investec Bank plc, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ James Bayliss - Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ Charles Weston - RBC Capital Markets, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ Sahill Shan - Singer Capital Markets Securities Limited, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ฐํ Richard William Fairman CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. |
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to this live stream of CVS Group's full year financial results following the publication of those earlier this morning. I'm Richard Fairman, CEO. And alongside me, I've got Robin Alfonso, our CFO; and Paul Higgs, our Chief Veterinary Officer. We have delivered further growth across our group in the past year with improved U.K. operations and continuing expansion of our platform in Australia. Revenue increased by 5.4% to GBP 673.2 million. | ์๋ ํ์ธ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, CVS Group์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ค์ ๋ผ์ด๋ธ ์คํธ๋ฆผ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์์นจ ์ผ์ฐ ๋ฐํ๋ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ์งํํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ CEO ๋ฆฌ์ฒ๋ ํ์ด๋งจ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์์๋ CFO ๋ก๋น ์ํฐ์์ ์ต๊ณ ์์์ฌ ํด ํ์ค๊ฐ ํจ๊ปํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ง๋ ํ ํด ๋์ ์๊ตญ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ํธ์ฃผ ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ์ฅ์ ํตํด ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ์ 5.4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ 6์ต 7,320๋ง ํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. |
We faced some challenges particularly in the first half of the year with softer market conditions in the U.K., but it was pleasing to see significant improvement in the final quarter, leading to a positive full year performance with like-for-like growth of 0.2% across the group and 1% in our core practice division. And then improved trading continued into the first quarter of the new financial year. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 9.4% to GBP 134.6 million from both acquisitions and continued disciplined cost management, and adjusted EBITDA margin increased by 70 basis points to 20%. Adjusted operating cash conversion was 76.9% for the year, ahead of our stated ambition of circa 70%. | ํนํ ์ฐ์ด ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ ์๊ตญ์ ์์ฅ ์ฌ๊ฑด ๋ํ๋ก ์ผ๋ถ ์ด๋ ค์์ ๊ฒช์์ง๋ง, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์๋นํ ๊ฐ์ ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒ์ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ก ์ธํด ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ ์ฒด ๊ธฐ์ค ๋์ผ๋งค์ฅ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ 0.2%, ํต์ฌ ์ง๋ฃ ๋ถ๋ฌธ 1%์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ ํ๋ฆ์ ์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ์ง์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์กฐ์ EBITDA๋ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ๊ณผ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์๊ฒฉํ ๋น์ฉ ๊ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํตํด 9.4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ 1์ต 3,460๋ง ํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์กฐ์ EBITDA ๋ง์ง์ 70bp ์ฆ๊ฐํ 20%๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์กฐ์ ์์ ํ๊ธ์ ํ์จ์ ์ฐ๊ฐ 76.9%๋ก ๋น์ฌ๊ฐ ๋ชฉํ๋ก ํ๋ ์ฝ 70% ์์ค์ ์ํํ์ต๋๋ค. |
And in light of these strengthened operating cash flows and also the proceeds from the sale of our Crematoria business at a 10x EBITDA multiple, we finished the year with leverage of 1.18x. We completed a further 7 practice acquisitions in Australia, and we've completed a further 2 acquisitions comprising 8 practice sites so far this new financial year. And that brings our total footprint in Australia to 51 sites. We're coming towards the end of the CMA market investigation. And whilst it was disappointing to face a further delay in the announcement of their provisional decision, we do look forward to receiving that very shortly. | ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐํ๋ ์์ ํ๊ธํ๋ฆ๊ณผ ๋๋ถ์ด ํ์ฅ์ฅ ์ฌ์ ์ EBITDA 10๋ฐฐ ๋ฐฐ์๋ก ๋งค๊ฐํ ์์ต๊ธ์ ํตํด ์ฐ๋ง ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋น์จ์ 1.18๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋ง๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ํธ์ฃผ์์ 7๊ฐ์ ์ถ๊ฐ ๋ณ์ ์ธ์๋ฅผ ์๋ฃํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ค์ด ํ์ฌ๊น์ง 8๊ฐ ๋ณ์ ์ฌ์ดํธ๋ก ๊ตฌ์ฑ๋ 2๊ฑด์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ธ์๋ฅผ ์๋ฃํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ก์จ ํธ์ฃผ ๋ด ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ 51๊ฐ ์ฌ์ดํธ๊ฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. CMA ์์ฅ์กฐ์ฌ๊ฐ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ๋ฐํ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ์ง์ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ค๋ง์ค๋ฝ์ง๋ง, ์กฐ๋ง๊ฐ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์๋ณผ ์ ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Now the strong market fundamentals remain attractive and we are well positioned for further growth. We've strengthened our company, and we're confident with the future growth prospects. So with that, I'd now like to open the call to questions from analysts. Now given this call is being live streamed, when you ask a question, please state your name and firm. And I think that will be helpful. | ์ด์ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์์ฅ ํ๋๋ฉํธ์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋จ์์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํ ์ข์ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐํํ๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ด์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ด ์ค์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์คํธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ๋๊ณ ์์ผ๋, ์ง๋ฌธํ์ค ๋ ์ฑํจ๊ณผ ์์ ํ์ฌ๋ช ์ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
โข ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ๊ณผ:
- ๋งค์ถ 5.4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ยฃ673.2M ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ์กฐ์ EBITDA 9.4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ยฃ134.6M ๋ฌ์ฑ (๋ง์ง 20%, 70bp ์์น)
- ์์
ํ๊ธ์ ํ์จ 76.9% ๋ฌ์ฑ (๋ชฉํ 70% ์ํ)
- ๋ถ์ฑ๋น์จ 1.18x๋ก ๊ฐ์
โข ์ฌ์
ํํฉ:
- ์๊ตญ ์์ฅ ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ถ์งํ์ผ๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ฉฐ ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋์ผ๋งค์ฅ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ 0.2% ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ํธ์ฃผ ์ฌ์
ํ์ฅ ์ง์ (7๊ฐ ๋ณ์ ์ธ์, ํ์ฌ ์ด 51๊ฐ ์ง์ ์ด์)
โข ์ ๋ง:
- ์ ๋
๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ง์
- CMA ์์ฅ์กฐ์ฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ ์ง์ฐ๋์์ผ๋ ๊ณง ๋ฐํ ์์
- ๊ฒฝ์์ง, ์์ฅ ํ๋๋ฉํธ๊ณผ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๊ธ์ ์ ์
์ฅ ํ๋ช
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Charles Hall: Peel Hunt LLP, Research Division Charles Hall from Peel Hunt. Richard, could we start on Australia? And can you just give a feel for how the market is trending there, now you've got plenty that have been under your belt for every year? Also discuss the synergies you're starting to see and a little bit on the cost of acquisitions and the pipeline. | **Charles Hall:** Peel Hunt์ Charles Hall์ ๋๋ค. Richard, ํธ์ฃผ๋ถํฐ ์์ํด๋ณผ๊น์? ์ด์ 1๋ ๋์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๊ฒฝํ์ ์์ผ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ณณ ์์ฅ์ด ์ด๋ค ์ถ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๋์ง ๊ฐ์ ์ข ์๋ ค์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? ๋ํ ์๋์ง ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค๊ณผ ์ธ์ ๋น์ฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ธ์. |
CEO & Director: Yes. So if I start with the overall performance in Australia. We've been quite selective, as you know, in terms of the acquisitions we've made. We're looking for high-quality, typically larger practices with 4 or 5 vets or more. And we're buying practices consciously in areas of high population and, therefore, areas where there are lots of pets. They also happen to be the areas where vets want to work and live. So that disciplined approach has served as well. We're pleased with the performance in Australia, and we've seen continued growth and the practices are performing in line with business cases. In terms of the market, demand has been good. The margins of those practices are above our group margin. And in terms of investments and financial returns, I'll probably pass over to Robin to comment. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ํธ์ฃผ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ถํฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์๋ค์ํผ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ธ์ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ์๋นํ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์์ฌ๊ฐ 4-5๋ช
์ด์์ธ ๊ณ ํ์ง์ ๋ํ ๋ณ์๋ค์ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ธ๊ตฌ ๋ฐ๋๊ฐ ๋์ ์ง์ญ, ์ฆ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ์ด ๋ง์ ์ง์ญ์ ๋ณ์๋ค์ ์์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ง์ญ๋ค์ ์์์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ผํ๊ณ ์ด๊ณ ์ถ์ดํ๋ ๊ณณ์ด๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฒด๊ณ์ ์ธ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ์ข์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค์ฃผ์์ต๋๋ค. ํธ์ฃผ์์์ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๊ณ ๋ณ์๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ ๊ณํ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ์ ์ด์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ์์๊ฐ ์ํธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค ๋ณ์์ ๋ง์ง์ ์ ํฌ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๋ง์ง์ ์ํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ์์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ดํด์๋ ๋ก๋น์ด ๋ต๋ณํ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
CFO & Director: Yes. So I think in terms of -- you asked a couple of questions around kind of cost of acquisition and pipeline. So our cost of acquisition largely are in two buckets. There's the cost of the DD and also Australia has stamp duty. But also in Australia, typically, when we value a business, I think we've said this before, 80% is paid upfront and then a proportion of 20% is deferred over a period of time. That gives us some protection but also leaves the vendor with some skin in the game and the opportunity to earn further value. There are -- that is a contingent consideration and that gets booked as a cost of acquisition through the P&L. In terms of pipeline, the pipeline is strong. I think in Australia, there are probably three major players. There's Greencross, there's VetPartners -- different from VetPartners in the U.K. and ourselves. And together, we have about 15% to 20% of the overall market compared to 60% in the U.K. So there's good opportunity. We spent just under GBP 30 million last year. To date, in the first quarter, we spent about GBP 23 million on two acquisitions, one larger acquisition of 6 sites. And we have a strong pipeline of opportunities where we've got agreed terms, we're just running through DD, and a much longer list of opportunities of people that we're talking to. So there's a really good strong opportunity for further growth in Australia. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ค, ์ธ์ ๋น์ฉ๊ณผ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ํ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ฃผ์
จ๋๋ฐ์. ์ ํฌ ์ธ์ ๋น์ฉ์ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ฒ์ฃผ๋ก ๋๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ค์ฌ(DD) ๋น์ฉ์ด ์๊ณ , ํธ์ฃผ์๋ ์ธ์ง์ธ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ํธ์ฃผ์์๋ ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ์
์ ํ๊ฐํ ๋ - ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ง๋ง - 80%๋ ์ ๋ถ๋ก ์ง๊ธํ๊ณ ๋๋จธ์ง 20%๋ ์ผ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด์ฐ ์ง๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋ณดํธ๋ง์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ฉด์๋ ๋งค๋์๊ฐ ๊ณ์ ๊ด์ฌ์ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๋จ๊ฒจ๋ก๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์กฐ๊ฑด๋ถ ๋๊ฐ(contingent consideration)์ด๋ฉฐ ์์ต๊ณ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ธ์ ๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ์๋นํ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํธ์ฃผ์๋ ์๋ง 3๊ฐ์ ์ฃผ์ ์ ์ฒด๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํธ์ฃผ์๋ Greencross๊ฐ ์๊ณ , VetPartners๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค - ์๊ตญ์ VetPartners์๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ์ฌ์ด๊ณ , ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ธ ํ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํฉ์ณ์ ์ ์ฒด ์์ฅ์ ์ฝ 15%์์ 20% ์ ๋๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์๊ตญ์ 60%์ ๋น๊ตํ๋ฉด ์๋นํ ์ฐจ์ด์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ข์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ์๋ ์ 3์ฒ๋ง ํ์ด๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ ๋๋ ๊ธ์ก์ ํฌ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ์ฌ๊น์ง๋ ๋ ๊ฑด์ ์ธ์์ ์ฝ 2์ฒ3๋ฐฑ๋ง ํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ํฌ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ค ํ๋๋ 6๊ฐ ์ฌ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ํฐ ์ธ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์กฐ๊ฑด ํฉ์๊ฐ ์๋ฃ๋์ด ์ค์ฌ(DD) ๊ณผ์ ์ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ์๊ณ , ํ์ ์ค์ธ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๊ธด ๊ธฐํ ๋ชฉ๋ก๋ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํธ์ฃผ์์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋ง์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. |
Charles Hall: Peel Hunt LLP, Research Division That's great. And is there anything to highlight from the Sydney acquisition? | **Charles Hall:** ์๋๋ ์ธ์์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ํน๋ณํ ๊ฐ์กฐํ ๋งํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์๋์? |
CFO & Director: I think the main highlight for us is we were -- I mean, it's a decent group of practice in Sydney, the capital in Australia. What we were slightly -- we knew it was a premium asset. But actually, when we made the acquisition, there were a number of people even in the U.K. that said, we are aware of that group of practices, and it's really pleasing to see that you've acquired it and it's part of your portfolio. So I think, for us, what we have been seeing is as we acquire premium assets, veterinary is quite a small community. Vendors will speak to other colleagues, and we're finding that we're getting an increased kind of inbound traffic now into us in terms of potential further opportunity to acquire their practices in due course. | **CFO & Director:** ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ์ ์ ํธ์ฃผ ์๋์ ์๋ ์๋๋์ ์๋นํ ๊ด์ฐฎ์ ์ง๋ฃ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ธ์ํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์์ฐ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ค์ ๋ก ์ธ์๋ฅผ ์งํํ์ ๋, ์๊ตญ์ ์๋ ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๊ทธ ์ง๋ฃ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋งํ๋ฉด์, ๊ทํ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ์ธ์ํด์ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ํฌํจ์ํจ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๋ ์ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์์ฐ์ ์ธ์ํ ์๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ๊ฐ ์๋นํ ์์ ์ปค๋ฎค๋ํฐ๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋งค๋์๋ค์ด ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋๋ฃ๋ค๊ณผ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋๋๊ฒ ๋๊ณ , ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๋ค์ด์ค๋ ์ธ๋ฐ์ด๋ ํธ๋ํฝ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ฐ๊ฒฌํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํฅํ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฃ์๋ฅผ ์ธ์ํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ๋ค ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
Kane Slutzkin: Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Kane Slutzkin from Deutsche. Just, guys, on the sort of exit rates going to '26. You've obviously spoken about a better second half. It looks like vet practices did sort of 2% in the second. But could you just talk about that exit rate going into this year, bearing in mind the Q4 comp was relatively soft for the cyber event? So anything you could help us with there? And following on from that, sort of just thinking more medium term, the 4% to 8%, you're still kind of reiterating as a target. I appreciate timing is uncertain. But what do you need to do to build back up to there? | **Kane Slutzkin:** ๋์ด์ฒด์ํ ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ผ์ธ ์ฌ๋ฌ์ธ ํจ์
๋๋ค. 26๋
์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ์ถ๊ตฌ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์
จ๋๋ฐ, ์์์ฌ ์ง๋ฃ์ ์ฌ์
์ด 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฝ 2% ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ์ฌ๊ฑด์ผ๋ก ์ธํด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฎ์๋ ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์ฌํด๋ก ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ ์ถ๊ตฌ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช
ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋์์ ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋ ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ธ์. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ด์, ์ค๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด 4%์์ 8%๋ผ๋ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฌํ์ธํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์. ํ์ด๋ฐ์ด ๋ถํ์คํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค๋ง, ๊ทธ ์์ค๊น์ง ๋ค์ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ธฐ ์ํด์๋ ๋ฌด์์ ํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
CEO & Director: Yes. And maybe I'll pick the second part first and Robin can pick up the first part. But in terms of our 4% to 8% medium-term ambition, absolutely, we are committed to that and confident we can get back to that level. I guess a number of factors at play there. One is hopefully improved consumer confidence in the U.K. We all eagerly await the announcement in November in the latest budget. But it does feel like consumer confidence is slowly returning, but we want that to continue. Certainty from the CMA process, I think, will help because the scrutiny the sector has been under over the last couple of years and some of the kind of press articles haven't helped the sector. And then there's the cohort of puppies and kittens born in their peak COVID period that are now typically kind of healthy animals, kind of 4 or 5 years old. But we all know they will age and, as like humans, more things go wrong in later life and more clinical care is required. So there's that kind of tailwind, if you excuse the pun, that will benefit our numbers in due course. In terms of the final quarter and leading into the first quarter of the new financial year, maybe just ask Robin to give a bit more color. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ถํฐ ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ Robin์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 4%์์ 8%์ ์ค๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ์ ๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ์ ์ ๋
ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ฌ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด
๋๋ค. ํ๋๋ ์๊ตญ ๋ด ์๋น์ ์ ๋ขฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋ 11์ ์ต์ ์์ฐ ๋ฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ํ ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋น์ ์ ๋ขฐ๋๊ฐ ์์ํ ํ๋ณต๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ณ์๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. CMA(๊ฒฝ์์์ฅ์ฒญ) ์ ์ฐจ์์ ๋์ค๋ ํ์ค์ฑ๋ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ด ์ ๊ณ๊ฐ ๋ฐ์์จ ๋ฉด๋ฐํ ์กฐ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ถ ์ธ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ ๊ณ์ ๋์์ด ๋์ง ์์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฝ๋ก๋19 ์ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ํ์ด๋ ๊ฐ์์ง์ ๊ณ ์์ด๋ค์ด ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ค์ ํ์ฌ ๋ณดํต 4-5์ธ ์ ๋์ ๊ฑด๊ฐํ ๋๋ฌผ๋ค์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋ ์๊ณ ์๋ฏ์ด ์ด๋ค๋ ๋์ด๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฉด์, ์ธ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ก ํ๋ ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ๋ ๋ง์ ์์ ์น๋ฃ๊ฐ ํ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฅ๋์ ์ฉ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ค๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฐ ์ํ์ด ํฅํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค์ ์ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ก๋น์ด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
CFO & Director: Yes. So Ken, we haven't shared like-for-like number in terms of the year-to-date like-for-like percentage growth. But we have given some, I suppose, data points. H1 was minus 1.1%. We said we didn't return to growth until Q4 and the full year landed at positive 0.2%. So simple math would dictate, we saw probably underlying 2% to 3% growth through the final quarter. And yes, we had a cyber event in that final quarter in our comparatives, but it's pleasing to see that growth continue into the new year. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ค, ์ผ. ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ๋์ผ ๋งค์ฅ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ (like-for-like) ์์น๋ ๋ณ๋๋ก ๊ณต์ ํ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ํฌ์ธํธ๋ ์ ๊ณตํ์ฃ . ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ ๋ง์ด๋์ค 1.1%์๊ณ , 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ก ๋์์์ง ๋ชปํ๋ค๊ฐ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด๋ก๋ ํ๋ฌ์ค 0.2%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋จํ ๊ณ์ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๋๋ต 2%์์ 3% ์ ๋์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ต๋๋ค, ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋น๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ์ฌ๊ฑด์ด ์์์ฃ . ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๊ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊น์ง ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
Kane Slutzkin: Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division And maybe just one quick one. Just thinking now, we've got the guide is sort of -- seems consistent with consensus. Just wondering sort of how much inorganic growth -- I mean, I probably need to do the numbers myself, but while I'm here, if you could help me. Just sort of post period end acquisition, the bigger one you've announced, how much revenue and EBITDA is that? Is it sort of like GBP 10 million to GBP 15 million of rev and maybe GBP 2 million, GBP 3 million of EBITDA? I'm just trying to get a sense of how much -- it's becoming a little bit tricky now with all the acquisitions to kind of see what underlying is really nowadays. But yes, anything you can help me with there? | **Kane Slutzkin:** ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๊ฐ ์ปจ์ผ์์ค์ ์ผ์นํ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ๋ฌด๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ์ง์ ๊ณ์ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง, ์ด ๊ธฐํ์ ๋์์ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋ค๋ฉด์. ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ข ๋ฃ ํ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ ์ค์์ ๋ฐํํ์ ํฐ ๊ฑด์ด ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ EBITDA์ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ๊น์? ๋๋ต ๋งค์ถ 1,000๋ง~1,500๋ง ํ์ด๋, EBITDA 200๋ง~300๋ง ํ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋ ๊น์? ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์ด ๋ง์์ง๋ฉด์ ์ค์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ํ์ ํ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์กฐ๊ธ ๊น๋ค๋ก์์ง๊ณ ์์ด์์. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋์์ ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? |
CFO & Director: Yes. Well, maybe if I just provide you EBITDA numbers, if that's okay. So we spent GBP 23 million in year-to-date. I think we've shared before multiples in Australia are good. They are accretive levels. So it's about 8x multiple-ish on average, sometimes a little bit less, sometimes a little bit more. That would be about GBP 2 million to GBP 3 million annualized EBITDA. We did -- some of those acquisitions were made towards the back end of the quarter. So you just have to then prorate that. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ค, EBITDA ์์น๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น 2์ฒ 300๋ง ํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ์ง์ถํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด ํธ์ฃผ์ ๋ฐฐ์๋ ์ํธํ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฐ์ ์ธ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ํ๊ท ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฝ 8๋ฐฐ ๋ฐฐ์ ์ ๋์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋๋ก๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฎ๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ ๋๋ก๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๊ฐ EBITDA ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ฝ 200๋ง์์ 300๋ง ํ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ ํด๋นํฉ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ถ ์ธ์๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ๋ฐ๋ถ์ ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ก๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋น๋ก ๋ฐฐ๋ถํด์ ๊ณ์ฐํ์ ์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: And in terms of revenue, we've said margins in Australia is slightly better than the group. So you can perhaps solve that, yes. | **CEO & Director:** ๋งค์ถ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํธ์ฃผ์ ๋ง์ง์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ ์ฒด๋ณด๋ค ์ฝ๊ฐ ๋ ์ข๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ๊ณ์ฐํด๋ณด์ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Andrew Whitney: Investec Bank plc, Research Division It's Andrew from Investec. Just following up on those questions actually. One on Australia. Do you have a sense what the rate of the market consolidation is there? I know the presentation says you're sort of 15% to 20% market consolidated. And what I'm trying to do there is just understand how much runway until we get to a situation similar to where we are in the U.K., right? And then obviously, being an analyst looking further, are there other -- or at what stage do you start to think about other geographies when you're comfortable that Australia is going in the way that you want? So that's question one. And then just following up on Kane's question on 4% to 8% like-for-like growth rate. Just trying to understand what the drivers are in the same way Kane was. Is that a continued value accretion? Are you continuing in with contextualized care? I'm just trying to think about what the answer is. Is it value, volume, mix? What's the big driver in getting to 4% to 8%? | **Andrew Whitney:** ํธ์ฃผ์ ๋ํด ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ ํตํฉ ์๋์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ด ์์ผ์ ์ง์? ๋ฐํ ์๋ฃ์์ ์ฝ 15%์์ 20% ์ ๋ ์์ฅ์ด ํตํฉ๋์๋ค๊ณ ํ์
จ๋๋ฐ, ์ ๊ฐ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ตญ๊ณผ ์ ์ฌํ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ ์๋์ง์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฐํ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ก์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋ฆฌ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด๋ฉด, ํธ์ฃผ๊ฐ ์ํ์๋ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ผ๋ก ์งํ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํ์ค ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง์ญ๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ ๋จ๊ณ๋ ์ธ์ ์ธ์ง, ์๋๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง์ญ๋ค์ด ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Kane์ด ์ง๋ฌธํ๋ 4%์์ 8% ๋์ผ์กฐ๊ฑด ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ํด ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ผ์ธ์ด ์ง๋ฌธํ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์์ ๋๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์ดํดํ๋ ค๊ณ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง์์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์น ์ฆ๋์ธ๊ฐ์? ๋ง์ถคํ ์ผ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ํ๋ํ๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ๋ต์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ํ์ ํ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋๋ฐ์. ๊ฐ์น์ธ์ง, ๋ฌผ๋์ธ์ง, ๋ฏน์ค์ธ์ง์? 4%์์ 8% ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ๊ฐ์? |
CEO & Director: Yes. And Paul, do you want to start with that part? And I'll pick up the first part of the question. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ํด์ด ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ถํฐ ์์ํด์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ด์? ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ฉด ์ ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Chief Veterinary Officer: Yes. I think you pick up a great point around how do you create that value. And we've got a big focus at the moment on client experience. And that's because as a profession, perhaps we've had a great focus on our ability to deliver fantastic care for animals, and I think we need to progress how we give that care to our clients, our pet owners in particular as well and really demonstrate the value of the care that we provide. So I have absolutely no doubt that our colleagues provide the best clinical care they possibly can. We can absolutely demonstrate that and demonstrate that value to our clients, and that's work that we're continuously doing. So I think that is a big action that we're taking at the moment, driving confidence in the consulting room. We have our new graduate program now. We have a new consulting skills program, which enables that communication with a real refocus from not necessarily a clinical outcome being the right outcome but shared decision-making, so ensuring that our pet owners leave that room with the absolute confidence they've made the right decision for them and for their animal, which is a slightly different shift potentially to always making the right diagnosis. It's a subtle reframing but it's an important one. | **Chief Veterinary Officer:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์น ์ฐฝ์ถ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ๋ํ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ง์ ์ ํด์ฃผ์
จ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ์ ํฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ํ ์ ๋ฌธ์ง์ผ๋ก์ ๋๋ฌผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ๋ฅญํ ์น๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์๋ ๋ฐ์ด๋ ์ญ๋์ ๋ณด์ฌ์์ง๋ง, ์ด์ ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค, ํนํ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ ์์ ์๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ทธ ์น๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๊ณตํ๋์ง์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ฐ์ ์์ผ์ผ ํ๊ณ , ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ์น๋ฃ์ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ค์ ๋ก ์
์ฆํด์ผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์์ ์น๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ํ ์์ฌํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ํ์คํ ์ ์ฆํ ์ ์๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค ์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ทจํ๊ณ ์๋ ํฐ ํ๋ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ์ง๋ฃ์ค์์์ ์ ๋ขฐ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ๋ ์๋ก์ด ์ ์ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋ก์ด ์ปจ์คํ ์คํฌ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ๋์ ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋์ ์ฌ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ผ๋ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ฒ์ด๋ ๊ณต๋ ์์ฌ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ ์ํต์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ ์ฃผ์ธ๋ค์ด ์ง๋ฃ์ค์ ๋์ค ๋ ์์ ๊ณผ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ์ ์ํด ์ฌ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ๋ด๋ ธ๋ค๋ ์ ๋์ ์ธ ํ์ ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ก ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ ํญ์ ์ ํํ ์ง๋จ์ ๋ด๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ๋ ๋ค์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฏธ๋ฌํ ๊ด์ ์ ์ ํ์ด์ง๋ง ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ๋ณํ์ ๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: And in terms of the market share and the consolidation levels, Robin talked about the two major groups being VetPartners and Greencross. There's also a smaller private equity-owned consolidator called Vets Central. They're owned by Pemba Capital. So all three of those groups have actually more practices than we do. VetPartners is about 250; Greencross, under 200; Vets Central, I think, over 50. I think in terms of scale, given the size of our practices, we're probably third in terms of scale. But in terms of consolidation, we think the market is between 15% and 20% consolidated, so plenty of opportunity for continued expansion of CVS. We will continue to be disciplined, though, in that we want those high-quality larger sites because they derisk our entry in that if you lose a vet post acquisition, if you've got a larger team of vets, it's much easier to accrete into. And we've been pleased with the approach and performance so far. But we definitely see a strong pipeline of further opportunities. In terms of other people consolidating, there is competition for deals but probably less than it was in the U.K. a few years ago pre the CMA process. | **CEO & Director:** ์์ฅ ์ ์ ์จ๊ณผ ํตํฉ ์์ค๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์, Robin์ด ์ธ๊ธํ ๋ ์ฃผ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ธ VetPartners์ Greencross ์ธ์๋ Vets Central์ด๋ผ๋ ์๊ท๋ชจ ์ฌ๋ชจํ๋ ์์ ํตํฉ์
์ฒด๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค์ Pemba Capital ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๋ชจ๋ ์ ํฌ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ณ์์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. VetPartners๊ฐ ์ฝ 250๊ฐ, Greencross๊ฐ 200๊ฐ ๋ฏธ๋ง, Vets Central์ด 50๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฉด์์๋ ์ ํฌ ๋ณ์๋ค์ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์๋ง 3์ ์ ๋ ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํตํฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ฅ์ด 15%์์ 20% ์ ๋ ํตํฉ๋์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ด์, CVS์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ์ฅ์ ์ํ ๊ธฐํ๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ์คํ ์ ๊ทผ์ ์ ์งํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ณ ํ์ง์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ณ์๋ค์ ์ํ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๊ณณ๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ์ ์ง์
๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์ธ์ ํ ์์์ฌ ํ ๋ช
์ ์๋๋ผ๋ ์์์ฌ ํ์ด ํฌ๋ฉด ํจ์ฌ ์ฝ๊ฒ ๋ณด์ถฉํ ์ ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง์ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ๋ง์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด
๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ์ฒด๋ค์ ํตํฉ ์์ง์๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ์๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง, ๋ช ๋ ์ CMA ํ๋ก์ธ์ค ์ด์ ์๊ตญ์์๋ณด๋ค๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๋ํ ํธ์ ๋๋ค. |
Andrew Whitney: Investec Bank plc, Research Division Great. So you're not thinking you need other geographies at the moment? | **Andrew Whitney:** ํ์ฌ๋ก์๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง์ญ์ผ๋ก์ ํ์ฅ์ด ํ์ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์ง ์์ผ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
CEO & Director: Not yet. But equally, in due course, there may well be further opportunities for growth. Australia was really attractive because it's English-speaking and the approach to clinical care is very similar to the U.K. and the clinical standards are very similar. So it had very attractive features. And obviously, with low levels of consolidation, that was an added attractive feature. So that's not to say there won't be other markets in due course, but certainly not in the short term. Charles -- sorry, James? | **CEO & Director:** ์์ง์ ์๋๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ก ์ ์ ํ ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋๋ฉด ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํธ์ฃผ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด์๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์์ด๊ถ ๊ตญ๊ฐ์ด๊ณ ์์ ์น๋ฃ์ ๋ํ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ์๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์ฌํ๋ฉฐ ์์ ๊ธฐ์ค๋ ๋น์ทํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋งค์ฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ํน์ง๋ค์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฐํ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ ํตํฉ๋ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๋งค๋ ฅ ์์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํฅํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ฅ๋ค์ด ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์๋ฏธ๋ ์๋์ง๋ง, ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํ์คํ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ฐฐ์ค... ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ์ ์์ค? |
James Bayliss: Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division James Bayliss from Berenberg. Just two, if I may. On the online platform, can you just talk us a bit through where you are in terms of the investments you've been making to improve kind of customer click through, the migration to cloud and how you see that then driving a recovery or kind of further performance on that side of the business over the next few years? And then secondly, in the context of vets up 4.5% year-on-year organically, can you just give us an update on what the kind of the wider backdrop is in the market in terms of recruitment, perhaps the differences between the U.K. and Australia in that regard? | **James Bayliss:** ์จ๋ผ์ธ ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ํด ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํด๋ฆญ๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๋ง์ด๊ทธ๋ ์ด์
์ ์ํ ํฌ์ ํํฉ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช
๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํฅํ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ ์ด ์ฌ์
๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋ณต๊ณผ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๋งํ๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก, ์์์ฌ ์๊ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก 4.5% ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์ํฉ์์, ์ฑ์ฉ ์์ฅ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ํนํ ์๊ตญ๊ณผ ํธ์ฃผ ๊ฐ์ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ํจ๊ป ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: And maybe Paul can pick up with the latter. In terms of the platform itself, we did invest in the first half of the last financial year in improving the Animed Direct website and the kind of customer journey. We have seen an improvement in revenue growth in the second half, and that will continue into the new financial year. But the market online is tough. We have seen some clients trade down from the premium pet food that we sell online, so the likes of Royal Canin and Hill's, et cetera. And some clients are buying kind of cheaper supermarket pet food. So there's definitely been a trade down of some clients. But we are continuing to invest in that platform, both in the experience for the client but also driving more repeat business as well. So subscriptions, for instance, is a new feature we've recently added. We will continue to try and optimize that platform. And hopefully, we do see a return to growth in the pet food side as well. | **CEO & Director:** ํ๋ซํผ ์์ฒด์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ง๋ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ์ Animed Direct ์น์ฌ์ดํธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํฌ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ , ์ด๋ ์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์๋ ์ง์๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์จ๋ผ์ธ ์์ฅ์ ์ด๋ ค์ด ์ํฉ์
๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ถ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์จ๋ผ์ธ์ผ๋ก ํ๋งคํ๋ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ ์ฌ๋ฃ, ์ฆ ๋ก์์บ๋(Royal Canin)์ด๋ ํ์ค(Hill's) ๊ฐ์ ์ ํ์์ ๋ ์ ๋ ดํ ๋ํ๋งํธ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ ์ฌ๋ฃ๋ก ๊ตฌ๋งค ํจํด์ ๋ฐ๊พธ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๋ช
ํ ์ผ๋ถ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋ค์ด๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋๊ฐ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ฌ๊ตฌ๋งค ์ด์ง ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ํด๋น ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๊ตฌ๋ ์๋น์ค๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ต๊ทผ์ ์ถ๊ฐํ ์๋ก์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ํด๋น ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ต์ ํํ๋ ค๊ณ ๋ ธ๋ ฅํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ ์ฌ๋ฃ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ก์ ํ๋ณต์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Chief Veterinary Officer: If I pick up on that in terms of the kind of feeling within the workforce, there's no doubt that there still is a workforce shortage. And the Royal College have identified that they anticipate that shortage to become less relevant within the next few years, and we're certainly seeing a continuing improvement in the number of vets working in the U.K. Some of that is an increase in the number of vets coming through vet schools. We have new vet schools that have opened in the last couple of years. And we have larger cohorts of vet students coming through. Obviously, that's contributing to our less experienced number of vets in the U.K. But we're also seeing through the activities that we undertake around caring for our colleagues that we're seeing better retention within the profession. And in fact, we've seen a much easier recruitment into some of those tougher to staff areas in the country, so a lower reliance on locums, for example. And I think that increase of 4.5% really reflects on that, that actually we're able to recruit into some of these more challenging areas now. | **Chief Veterinary Officer:** ์ธ๋ ฅ ๋ด๋ถ์ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฌ์ ํ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๋ถ์กฑ ์ํฉ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช
ํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ฆฝ์์๋ํ์์๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ถ์กฑ ํ์์ด ํฅํ ๋ช ๋
๋ด์ ๋ ์ฌ๊ฐํด์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ค์ ๋ก ์๊ตญ์์ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ๋ ์์์ฌ ์๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์๊ณผ๋ํ์ ์กธ์ ํ๋ ์์์ฌ ์๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๋๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์๋ก์ด ์์๊ณผ๋ํ๋ค์ด ๊ฐ๊ตํ๊ณ , ๋ ๋ง์ ์์ํ๊ณผ ํ์๋ค์ด ์กธ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๋ก ์ธํด ์๊ตญ ๋ด ๊ฒฝํ์ด ๋ถ์กฑํ ์์์ฌ๋ค์ ๋น์ค์ด ๋์ด๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ ์ฌ์ค์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ ๋๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ค์ํ ํ๋๋ค์ ํตํด ์ ๊ณ ๋ด ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ ์ง์จ์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ถฉ์์ด ์ด๋ ค์ ๋ ์ง์ญ๋ค์์ ์ฑ์ฉ์ด ํจ์ฌ ์์ํด์ก๊ณ , ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ์์ ์๋ฃ์ง์ ๋ํ ์์กด๋๊ฐ ๋ฎ์์ก์ต๋๋ค. 4.5% ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก, ์ด์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ด๋ ค์ด ์ง์ญ๋ค์๋ ์ธ๋ ฅ์ ์ถฉ์ํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๋๋ค. |
Charles Weston: RBC Capital Markets, Research Division Charles Weston from RBC. A clarification question first, please. In terms of the guidance for this year, you said you're happy with consensus, which I think is GBP 141 million for EBITDA. Is that including the acquisitions that you've made in the first couple of months or excluding them? | **Charles Weston:** RBC ์บํผํธ ๋ง์ผ์ ์ฐฐ์ค ์จ์คํด์ ๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ๋ช ํํ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๊ด๋ จํด์, ์ปจ์ผ์์ค์ ๋ง์กฑํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, EBITDA 1์ต 4,100๋ง ํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฌํด ์ฒซ ๋ช ๋ฌ ๋์ ์งํํ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์ ํฌํจํ ๊ฒ์ธ์ง, ์๋๋ฉด ์ ์ธํ ๊ฒ์ธ์ง์? |
CFO & Director: I mean, I can't talk for every analyst on what's included in the numbers, Charles. I'd imagine it would include some of those acquisitions, yes, is my expectation. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ชจ๋ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ค์ด ์์น์ ๋ฌด์์ ํฌํจ์์ผฐ๋์ง๋ ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค, ์ฐฐ์ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ๋ค ์ค ์ผ๋ถ๋ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
Charles Weston: RBC Capital Markets, Research Division I guess analysts probably don't include the acquisitions that you just announced. So is there... | **Charles Weston:** RBC ์บํผํธ ๋ง์ผ ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ค์ด ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ฐํํ์ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ ๊ฑด๋ค์ ํฌํจํ์ง ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด... |
CFO & Director: Some may, some may not. And then they definitely don't include future acquisitions. | **CFO & Director:** ์ผ๋ถ๋ ํฌํจ๋ ์๋ ์๊ณ ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์์ ์๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฅํ ์ธ์ ๊ฑด๋ค์ ํ์คํ ํฌํจ๋์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Charles Weston: RBC Capital Markets, Research Division Okay. And then secondly, just on the cyber sort of softer comps for the second half, which I think was a couple of percentage points, effectively a tailwind. Is there a tailwind from cyber in the first few months of this year that's giving you a bit of a sort of a head start on a year-on-year basis? And if you think about the 4% to 8% that you expect in the medium term and the kind of roughly 0 that you had last year, could the like-for-like be sort of halfway in the middle of this year? Where should we be thinking on the like-for-like for '26? | **Charles Weston:** ๋ค, ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋น๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค์ด ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฎ์๋ ์ ์ ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ๋ช ํผ์ผํธ ํฌ์ธํธ ์ ๋์ ์ํ ์์ธ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ์ด ๋ช ๊ฐ์ ๋์ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ ๋
๋๋น ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์ถ๋ฐ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ์ํ์ด ์๋์ง์ ๋ํ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์. ์ค๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ 4%์์ 8% ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๊ณผ ์๋ ์ ๊ฑฐ์ 0%์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์ฌํด ๋์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ทธ ์ค๊ฐ ์ ๋๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํดํ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ๋์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
CEO & Director: Yes. I think the start of this year, the comp is far less soft than it was in the final quarter. I think the one disruption that we continue to face maybe in the first quarter of last financial year was that our teams are still getting used to their new practice management system. But by and large, that disruption was far less. The peak period of disruption and, therefore, softer comp was the final quarter when we had the cyber incident and then we rapidly migrated onto a new platform. And Paul can maybe comment on how vets are finding that system now. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ์ฌํด ์ด์ ๋น๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ถ๋๋ฌ์ ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ์ ์ง๋ฉดํ๋ ํ ๊ฐ์ง ์ฐจ์ง์ ์ ํฌ ํ๋ค์ด ์๋ก์ด ์ง๋ฃ ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์์คํ ์ ์์ง ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ทธ ์ฐจ์ง์ ํจ์ฌ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐจ์ง์ ์ ์ ์ด์๊ณ , ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋น๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ถ๋๋ฌ์ ๋ ์๊ธฐ๋ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ์ฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ถ๊ธฐ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ์ํ๊ฒ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. Paul์ด ์์์ฌ๋ค์ด ํ์ฌ ๊ทธ ์์คํ ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๋์ง์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํด ์ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
Chief Veterinary Officer: Yes. I mean, early adoption is always a challenge. But actually, you really only took 6 weeks to roll the majority of our practice out onto that, so very much within the end of the last financial year and previous financial year. Now we're seeing significant engagement with that. In fact, I think we asked our colleagues now how they would -- whether they would prefer this system versus the previous system. Hands down, they would prefer this system. It enables a much wider access to client records. For example, if you work in one of our night services now, you can access the records from any of our practices that are sending cases in, whereas previously that wouldn't have been possible overnight. So it's definitely freed up an awful lot for our colleagues. There are efficiencies within that system. So for example, there's a function there which is simply called Forms, which is a really simple way to input your clinical data and to also formulate that into, for example, a discharge sheet. So actually it's now bringing significant efficiencies into practice. | **Chief Veterinary Officer:** ๋ค, ์ด๊ธฐ ๋์
์ ํญ์ ์ด๋ ค์ด ๊ณผ์ ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง๋ฃ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด ์์คํ
์ผ๋ก ์ ํํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋จ 6์ฃผ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ง๊ณผ ์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ด์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์๋ฃํ ์ ์์์ฃ . ํ์ฌ๋ ์ด ์์คํ
์ ๋ํ ์๋นํ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ค ๋๋ฃ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ด ์์คํ
๊ณผ ์ด์ ์์คํ
์ค ์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ํธํ๋์ง ๋ฌผ์ด๋ดค๋๋ฐ, ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด ์์คํ
์ ์ ํธํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ตํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์์คํ ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ๋ํ ์ ๊ทผ์ฑ์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ํ์ค๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ผ๊ฐ ์๋น์ค์์ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ๋ ์ง์์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด์ ์ผ์ด์ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ด๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ง๋ฃ์์ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ ๊ทผํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์๋ ์ผ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ ๊ทผ์ด ๋ถ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ ํธ์๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํด๋น ์์คํ ๋ด์๋ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, Forms๋ผ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์ด๋ฅผ ํด์ ์์ฝ์ ๊ฐ์ ํํ๋ก ์์ฑํ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด์ ์ง๋ฃ ํ์ฅ์ ์๋นํ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: And in terms of the 4% to 8%, we are still confident of returning to that, as I said earlier. We talked about the building blocks to that. The one thing I didn't mention, I guess, is price. We have been quite conservative on price in the last couple of years, as you'd probably expect during the CMA process. But we absolutely believe that clients will pay for high-quality care. And we continue to invest in improving our practices and investing in our teams to provide that continued great care to our clients and their animals. So with some pricing, the return to consumer confidence, the investment in quality and also making sure that we service the increased demand that will come from that COVID cohort of puppies and kittens, there are a number of building blocks you can see that will hopefully get us back to that medium-term ambition. | **CEO & Director:** 4%์์ 8% ๋ฒ์๋ก์ ๋ณต๊ท์ ๋ํด์๋ ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋๋ก ์ฌ์ ํ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์ํ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์๋ค์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๊ณ ์. ์ ๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ์ง ์์ ํ ๊ฐ์ง๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์
๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ CMA ์ ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์งํํ๋ ๋์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ
์ ์ ์์ด์๋ ์๋นํ ๋ณด์์ ์ธ ์ ๊ทผ์ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ ์์ํ์
จ์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๊ณ ํ์ง ์ผ์ด์ ๋ํด์๋ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋น์ฉ์ ์ง๋ถํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ฅญํ ์ผ์ด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ณ์ ์์ค ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์ ๊ณผ ์๋น์ ์ ๋ขฐ ํ๋ณต, ํ์ง์ ๋ํ ํฌ์, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฝ๋ก๋19 ์๊ธฐ์ ์ ์๋ ๊ฐ์์ง์ ๊ณ ์์ด๋ค๋ก ์ธํด ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์์ ๋ํ ์๋น์ค ์ค๋น ๋ฑ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์๋ค์ ํตํด ์ค๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋์๊ฐ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
Charles Weston: RBC Capital Markets, Research Division And just last question from me, if I can. In the prepared remarks on the video, you said that there was an expectation that there may be U.K. M&A opportunities opening up at the end of the CMA investigation. Have you sort of had conversations with potential vendors already? Is that -- do you envisage that being more sort of trading between the groups or more of a sort of independence, perhaps selling up with perhaps additional pressure from CMA? | **Charles Weston:** ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ ์์์์ CMA ์กฐ์ฌ๊ฐ ๋๋๋ฉด ์๊ตญ M&A ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฆด ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ์ด๋ฏธ ์ ์ฌ์ ๋งค๋์๋ค๊ณผ ๋ํ๋ฅผ ๋๋์ จ๋์? ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๊ฐ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง, ์๋๋ฉด CMA์ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋ฆฝ์ ์ฒด๋ค์ด ๋งค๊ฐํ๋ ํํ๊ฐ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: Yes. I think probably the latter in that. I suspect there are a number of independent practice owners that may have considered selling their practice and have possibly been frustrated over the last couple of years because we know Linnaeus bought a small group in the Rutland area, but there haven't been many transactions that have happened. We're all eagerly waiting the CMA findings, and they will apply across the entire sector, not just for the corporate groups. And therefore, we do expect some vendors will want to approach corporate groups and look to sell their practices post CMA process. We will continue to be selective. We would hope multiples have come down from the peak a few years ago. But we absolutely believe there are U.K. acquisition opportunities. And we have less than a 9% market share. So there are plenty of white spaces in the U.K. where we don't currently own practices or we own very little. And selective acquisitions can certainly augment the practices that we already own. Thanks, Charles. Sahill? | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ์๋ง ํ์์ผ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋
๋ฆฝ ๋ณ์ ์์ ์ฃผ๋ค ์ค ์๋น์๊ฐ ์์ ์ ๋ณ์ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ์ง๋ง, ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ ์ข์ ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ผ์ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฆฌ๋์์ฐ์ค(Linnaeus)๊ฐ ๋ฌํ๋๋ ์ง์ญ์ ์๊ท๋ชจ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ธ์ํ ๊ฒ ์ธ์๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฑ์ฌ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ ๋ง์ง ์์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ชจ๋ CMA ์กฐ์ฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ํ ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ์ฒด ์ ๊ณ์ ์ ์ฉ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ผ๋ถ ๋งค๋์๋ค์ด CMA ์ ์ฐจ ์๋ฃ ํ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ ๊ทผํ์ฌ ๋ณ์ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์ ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ช ๋ ์ ์ต๊ณ ์ ๋๋น ๋ฉํฐํ(multiples)์ด ํ๋ฝํ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์๊ตญ ๋ด ์ธ์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๋ 9% ๋ฏธ๋ง์ ์์ฅ ์ ์ ์จ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์๊ตญ์๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ ์ง๋ฃ์๋ฅผ ์์ ํ์ง ์๊ฑฐ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๊ฒ ์์ ํ ๊ณต๋ฐฑ ์ง์ญ์ด ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ณ์ ์ธ ์ธ์๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฏธ ์์ ํ ์ง๋ฃ์๋ค์ ํ์คํ ๋ณด๊ฐํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๋ง์ต๋๋ค, Charles. Sahill? |
Sahill Shan: Singer Capital Markets Securities Limited, Research Division Sahill from Singer Capital. Charles actually just got one of my questions in there. But just sort of building on the UK acquisition, how should we be thinking about your view on capital deployment going forward over the next few years or so? Because clearly, Australia has got good momentum at the moment. The multiples are attractive. Just sort of help me get a sense of that. Secondly, where are we in terms of greenfields in the U.K. and the ones you opened a few years ago? Just an update on that would be really helpful and plans going forward once we get clarity on the CMA. And probably one for Robin. Given last year, there was a lot of cost headwinds and you did really well in terms of improving margins, do you have a sense of what kind of like-for-likes you'll need this year to offset any cost inflation that you're anticipating in the current financial year? | **Sahill Shan:** Singer Capital์ Sahill์
๋๋ค. Charles๊ฐ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ์ค ํ๋๋ฅผ ๋ต๋ณํด ์ฃผ์
จ๋๋ฐ์. ์๊ตญ ์ธ์๊ฑด๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํฅํ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ์น์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ต์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ํ์ฌ ํธ์ฃผ ์์ฅ์ด ์ข์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ
์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๊ณ ๋ฐธ๋ฅ์์ด์
๋ฐฐ์๋ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์ํฉ์ด๋๊น์. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ค๋ช
ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก, ์๊ตญ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐํ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฉ์ธ๊ฐ์? ๋ช ๋ ์ ์ ์คํํ ๋งค์ฅ๋ค ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์งํ ์ํฉ๊ณผ CMA(๊ฒฝ์์์ฅ์ฒญ) ์น์ธ์ด ๋์จ ํ์ ํฅํ ๊ณํ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋ง Robin์๊ฒ ๋๋ฆด ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ํ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ ์ ๋ง์ ๋น์ฉ ์์น ์๋ฐ์ด ์์์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ๋ง์ง ๊ฐ์ ์์ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ฌ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์ ์์๋๋ ๋น์ฉ ์ธํ๋ ์ด์ ์ ์์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ ๋์ผ๋งค์ฅ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ํ์ํ ์ง ๊ฐ์ด ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
CEO & Director: Do you want to start with that one? And I'll pick up the capital deployment. | **CEO & Director:** ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ถํฐ ์์ํ์๊ฒ ์ด์? ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ฉด ์ ๊ฐ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
CFO & Director: Yes. So as you rightly say, we faced in some national wage increases last year, some national insurance contribution increases. We said the annualized impact of that was between GBP 11 million to GBP 12 million. It started from April '25, so there's some annualization of those costs. Against that, we have been looking at our cost base. I suppose the areas that we've been looking at to kind of help drive, there's some efficiency savings in terms of headcount and we've delivered some of that already. We delivered sufficient to kind of offset those costs. There are also some purchasing synergies. We every day look at buying of drugs and make sure that we have the most optimum net-net price. But we actually think there's an opportunity right now for us to drive that harder, and I think that will help offset. And then we've locked in some favorable kind of utility cost savings. We forward buy our gas and electricity. So those three will offset, I believe, most of the cost inflation. We've not shared kind of a like-for-like guidance number, but I think the kind of the market consensus revenue and the like-for-likes will be sufficient to offset kind of cost inflation, plus those activities. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ์๋
์ ์ผ๋ถ ๊ตญ๊ฐ์ ์๊ธ ์ธ์๊ณผ ๊ตญ๋ฏผ๋ณดํ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๊ธ ์ธ์์ ์ง๋ฉดํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ํฅ์ 1,100๋ง ํ์ด๋์์ 1,200๋ง ํ์ด๋ ์ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ 25๋
4์๋ถํฐ ์์๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ํด๋น ๋น์ฉ๋ค์ ์ผ๋ถ ์ฐ๊ฐํ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋์ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๋ ๋น์ฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฒํ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ํจ์จ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ถ์งํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ดํด๋ณธ ์์ญ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ผ๋ถ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ ๊ฐ์ด ์์๊ณ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ ์ผ๋ถ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ํด๋น ๋น์ฉ๋ค์ ์์ํ ์ ์์ ๋งํผ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๊ตฌ๋งค ์๋์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋งค์ผ ์์ฝํ ๊ตฌ๋งค๋ฅผ ๊ฒํ ํ์ฌ ์ต์ ์ ์๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ํ๋ณดํ๋๋ก ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ค์ ๋ก ์ง๊ธ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๊ฒ ์ถ์งํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์์ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค์ค ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํธ๋ฆฌํฐ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ์์ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์กฐ๊ฑด๋ค์ ํ๋ณดํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ฐ์ค์ ์ ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ๊ณ ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ์ด ์ธ ๊ฐ์ง ์์๊ฐ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ธํ๋ ์ด์ ์ ์์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ผ์ ํฌ๋งค์ถ(like-for-like) ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ์์น๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ณต์ ํ์ง ์์์ง๋ง, ์์ฅ ์ปจ์ผ์์ค ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ๋์ผ์ ํฌ๋งค์ถ์ด ๋น์ฉ ์ธํ๋ ์ด์ ๊ณผ ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋๋ค์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์์ํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: And then in terms of capital deployment, Sahill, we are in a good position, I guess, in our leverage reduced during the year. And we finished the year at 1.18x. So we have capital to deploy and we will continue to adopt our selective and disciplined investment criteria. In terms of those investments, we absolutely believe there's an opportunity too for further accretive acquisitions in Australia and, as I said, returning to U.K. acquisitions hopefully in this financial year. But we will continue to be selective in terms of the practices we acquire. We're also committed to improving our existing facilities in the U.K., and that's both the practices themselves and the space both from a client perspective but also for our teams, and also investing in high-quality equipment because obviously that allows us to provide that great care to our clients and their animals. So we will -- the three of us sign off on all investments, and we will continue to adopt that disciplined approach. But we do see options ahead in terms of further investment for growth and we're seeing good returns from that investment at the moment. In terms of greenfields, we have opened a few greenfields in the last few years. And that, I guess, if we don't see an acquisition opportunity in a certain area we want to expand, that can be helpful. I suspect in the U.K., our focus will be more on acquisitions rather than further greenfield sites. That's not to say there won't be any. But I guess, we do feel acquisitions will be back on the table this year. Any questions from the call? | **CEO & Director:** ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ์น ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ข์ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก 1.18๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋ฐฐ์นํ ์๋ณธ์ด ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ด๊ณ ๊ท์จ ์๋ ํฌ์ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๊ณ์ ์ ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋, ํธ์ฃผ์์ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์น ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ธ์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด ์ด๋ฒ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์๋ ์๊ตญ ์ธ์๋ก๋ ๋ณต๊ทํ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ธ์ํ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ฒด๋ค์ ๋ํด์๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ธ ์ ๊ทผ์ ์ ์งํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์๊ตญ ๋ด ๊ธฐ์กด ์์ค ๊ฐ์ ์๋ ์ ๋ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ง๋ฃ์ ์์ฒด์ ๊ณต๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ๋๋ฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด์ ์์๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ํฌ ํ์ ์ํด์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ณ , ๊ณ ํ์ง ์ฅ๋น์ ๋ํ ํฌ์๋ ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ํฌ์๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ์๊ฒ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ง๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ์ธ ๋ช ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ํฌ์์ ๋ํด ์น์ธํ๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฐ ์ฒด๊ณ์ ์ธ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๊ณ์ ์ ์งํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํ ์ถ๊ฐ ํฌ์ ์ต์ ๋ค์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ์ฌ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํฌ์๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ข์ ์์ต์ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ฐ๋ฐ(greenfield) ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ๋ช ๊ณณ์ ์๋ก ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฅํ๊ณ ์ ํ๋ ํน์ ์ง์ญ์์ ์ธ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์ง ๋ชปํ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ด๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ๋์์ด ๋ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์๊ตญ์์๋ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ ๊ท ๋ถ์ง ๊ฐ๋ฐ๋ณด๋ค๋ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์ ๋ ์ง์คํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๊ท ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ด ์ ํ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌํด๋ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์ด ๋ค์ ํ ์ด๋ธ ์์ ์ฌ๋ผ์ฌ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํ ์ฐธ์ฌ์๋ถ๋ค ์ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
Operator: So there's no questions from the calls but we do have one from the webcast from Roland French from Penman Securities. How are you incorporating AI or machine learning into the practices and your broader processes? And is there an opportunity here? | **Operator:** ์ ํ๋ก ๋ค์ด์จ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์์ง๋ง ์น์บ์คํธ๋ฅผ ํตํด Penman Securities์ Roland French๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ํ๋ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. AI๋ ๋จธ์ ๋ฌ๋์ ์ ๋ฌด ๊ดํ๊ณผ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋์ ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์๊น์? |
CEO & Director: Absolutely, there is. And I'll hand over to Paul, who's actually using some of the AI at the present. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ค์ ๋ก AI๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋ Paul์๊ฒ ๋๊ฒจ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
Chief Veterinary Officer: Yes. I think we need to probably separate out the AI and machine learning, which is a separate component. We certainly at the moment don't use machine learning from a clinical diagnostics perspective, and that's importantly from my perspective as Chief Veterinary Officer that, at the moment, we don't have sufficient evidence to be secure in the way that, that's functioning. So we're exploring it but not something that we're engaging fully with. What we are using AI with is support in the consulting room, again, to build in efficiencies. So we have a trial at the moment with a scribing AI function, which will record the consultation so that the vet has to make no notes at all, can fully engage with the owner. And it will then structure the clinical notes in the same format every single time. And it can then also automatically create a note for the owner take away, so what would have, within the profession, be termed at lay person's interpretation of the clinical notes. So it actually really builds in not just efficiencies in there but enables really great clinical record taking, which can be a challenge in the time frame that we have, but it also allows our colleagues to engage directly with owners and not have to worry about writing those notes at the same time. So that's the key element of AI that's in practices that we are using at the moment. | **Chief Veterinary Officer:** ๋ค, AI์ ๋จธ์ ๋ฌ๋์ ๋ถ๋ฆฌํด์ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ณ๊ฐ์ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์์
๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ ์ง๋จ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋จธ์ ๋ฌ๋์ ์ฌ์ฉํ์ง ์๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ต๊ณ ์์์ฌ๋ก์ ์ ๊ด์ ์์๋ ํ์ฌ๋ก์๋ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด ์์ ํ๊ฒ ์๋ํ๋ค๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ด ์ค์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํ์์ ํ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง ์์ ํ ๋์
ํ์ง๋ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ AI๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ถ์ผ๋ ์ง๋ฃ์ค์์์ ์ง์์ ํตํด ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์คํฌ๋ผ์ด๋น AI ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ผ๋ก ์๋ฒ ์ด์์ ํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ง๋ฃ ์๋ด์ ๋ น์ํด์ ์์์ฌ๊ฐ ์ ํ ๋ฉ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ ํ์ ์์ด ๋ณดํธ์์ ์์ ํ ์ง์คํด์ ์ํตํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํด์ค๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋งค๋ฒ ๋์ผํ ํ์์ผ๋ก ์์ ๋ ธํธ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์กฐํํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์์ ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ ์ ์๋ ๋ ธํธ๋ฅผ ์๋์ผ๋ก ์์ฑํ ์ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๊ณ์์ ์์ ๋ ธํธ์ ์ผ๋ฐ์ธ ํด์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฅด๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋จ์ํ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋์ด๋ ๊ฒ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ฐ์ํ ์์ ๊ธฐ๋ก ์์ฑ์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ ํ๋ ์๊ฐ ๋ด์์ ์ด๋ ค์ด ๊ณผ์ ๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์์ง๋ง, ๋์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ด ๋ ธํธ ์์ฑ์ ๋ํ ๊ฑฑ์ ์์ด ์์ ์๋ค๊ณผ ์ง์ ์ํตํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฃ์์์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋ AI์ ํต์ฌ ์์์ ๋๋ค. |
CFO & Director: It's just worth adding, we also already use AI in terms of those processing of invoices through AP. That's something we've been using for some time already. | **CFO & Director:** ๋ํ ๋ง๋ถ์ด์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์ ์ฑ๋ฌด(AP) ์ฒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํตํ ์ก์ฅ ์ฒ๋ฆฌ์์ AI๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์๋น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ฉํด์จ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: Brilliant. Any other questions? | **CEO & Director:** ํ๋ฅญํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง๋ฌธ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
Operator: That's all the questions from the webcast. Over to you, Richard, for closing remarks. | **Operator:** ์น์บ์คํธ๋ฅผ ํตํ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ด์์ผ๋ก ๋ง์น๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ง์์ ์ํด ๋ฆฌ์ฒ๋๋๊ป ๋๊ฒจ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
CEO & Director: Yes. Thank you. So first of all, thank you all for joining this presentation this morning, and thank you for your continued support. I'd like to close by thanking our fantastic team of colleagues because these results are all due to their contribution and significant focus on providing great care to our clients and their animals, and we really appreciate all of their hard work. And I look forward to sharing further success with you all in the coming months and years. Thank you. | **CEO & Director:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ์ค๋ ์์นจ ์ด ๋ฐํ์ ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ, ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ง์์๋ ๊น์ด ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ์ ํฌ์ ํ๋ฅญํ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๋ง์์ ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๊ธฐ์ฌ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋๋ฌผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์ผ์ด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ค๋ ํ์ ์ ์ธ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ ๋๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ ธ๊ณ ์ ์ง์ฌ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ช ๊ฐ์, ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ณผ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ๊ณต์ ํ ์ ์๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
Here are the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:
โข ํธ์ฃผ ์ฌ์
ํํฉ:
- ํธ์ฃผ ์์ฅ์ 15-20% ์ ์ ์จ ๋ณด์ (์๊ตญ์ 60% ๋๋น ๋ฎ์ ์์ค)
- ์ต๊ทผ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 2๊ฑด์ ์ธ์ ์๋ฃ (์ฝ 2,300๋ง ํ์ด๋ ํฌ์)
- ๋์ ์์ต์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐํ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ๋ณด์ ์ค
โข ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ค์ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ง:
- 4๋ถ๊ธฐ 2-3% ์์ค์ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ฌ์ฑ
- ์ค๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ์ธ 4-8% ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๋ฌ์ฑ์ ๋ํ ์์ ๊ฐ ํ๋ช
- ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋น์จ 1.18x๋ก ๊ฑด์ ํ ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ตฌ์กฐ ์ ์ง
โข ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ต:
- ์๊ตญ CMA ์กฐ์ฌ ์ข
๋ฃ ํ M&A ๊ธฐํ ํ๋ ์์
- ํธ์ฃผ์์ ์ ๋ณ์ ์ธ์ ์ ๋ต ์ง์
- AI ๊ธฐ์ ๋์
์ ํตํ ์ด์ ํจ์จํ ์ถ์ง ์ค
โข ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ์์ธ:
- ์๊ตญ ์๋น์ ์ ๋ขฐ๋ ํ๋ณต ํ์์ฑ
- ์ธ๋ ฅ ์๊ธ ๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ค์ด๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ณผ์ ๋ก ๋จ์์์
- ์จ๋ผ์ธ ์ฌ์
์์์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ ํ ์์ ๊ฐ์
โข ๊ฒฝ์์ง ํค:
์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ๊ฐ ์๊ณ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ํค์ ์ ์งํ๋ฉฐ, ํนํ ํธ์ฃผ ์ฌ์
์ฑ๊ณผ์ ํฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํด ๋๊ด์ ์ธ ์
์ฅ์ ๋ณด์