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Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. Jefferies Global Healthcare Conference 2025 June 4, 2025


Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us here for our first session in the med tech track. I'm Matt Taylor, the US medical supplies and devices analyst here at Jefferies. And I'm joined by the management team on my left here for Establishment Labs. So we have Pete Caldini, who's the CEO, and Raj Denhoy, the CFO. Speaker 1: And we'll have about a half hour for moderated q and a. So I always like to start high level, especially for these conferences, there could be folks who are newer to the story.
μ—μŠ€νƒœλΈ”λ¦¬μ‹œλ¨ΌνŠΈ 랩슀 ν™€λ”©μŠ€(Establishment Labs Holdings Inc.) μ œν”„λ¦¬μŠ€ κΈ€λ‘œλ²Œ ν—¬μŠ€μΌ€μ–΄ 컨퍼런슀 2025 2025λ…„ 6μ›” 4일

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”, μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„. λ©”λ“œν…Œν¬ νŠΈλž™μ˜ 첫 번째 μ„Έμ…˜μ— 참석해 μ£Όμ…”μ„œ κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €λŠ” μ œν”„λ¦¬μŠ€μ˜ λ―Έκ΅­ μ˜λ£Œμš©ν’ˆ 및 κΈ°κΈ° μ• λ„λ¦¬μŠ€νŠΈμΈ 맀트 ν…ŒμΌλŸ¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 제 μ™Όμͺ½μ—λŠ” μ—μŠ€νƒœλΈ”λ¦¬μ‹œλ¨ΌνŠΈ 랩슀의 κ²½μ˜μ§„μ΄ ν•¨κ»˜ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. CEO인 ν”ΌνŠΈ μΉΌλ””λ‹ˆμ™€ CFO인 라지 λ΄ν˜Έμ΄κ°€ μ°Έμ„ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ•½ 30λΆ„κ°„ μ‚¬νšŒμž μ£Όλ„μ˜ μ§ˆμ˜μ‘λ‹΅ μ‹œκ°„μ„ κ°€μ§ˆ μ˜ˆμ •μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €λŠ” 항상 높은 μˆ˜μ€€μ—μ„œ μ‹œμž‘ν•˜λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ”λ°, 특히 이런 μ»¨νΌλŸ°μŠ€μ—μ„œλŠ” 이 νšŒμ‚¬μ˜ μŠ€ν† λ¦¬λ₯Ό 처음 μ ‘ν•˜λŠ” 뢄듀이 μžˆμ„ 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
So maybe you could just start with a little bit of an overview of your portfolio, talk about how your products are differentiated, and maybe give us a look at the pipeline and some of the stuff you're excited about coming down the pipe. Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you, Matt. It's pleasure to be here. Know, regarding your question, I think you know the broad portfolio that we have on global basis, know, I think what's really driven our success outside The U. S. Speaker 2: And what I think is going to be a key driver for our success in The U. S. Is that we have a portfolio of differentiated products that are really unmatched in the industry.그럼 λ¨Όμ € κ·€ν•˜μ˜ ν¬νŠΈν΄λ¦¬μ˜€μ— λŒ€ν•œ κ°œμš”λΆ€ν„° μ‹œμž‘ν•΄μ„œ, μ œν’ˆλ“€μ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ°¨λ³„ν™”λ˜μ–΄ μžˆλŠ”μ§€ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ³ , νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈκ³Ό μ•žμœΌλ‘œ μΆœμ‹œλ  μ˜ˆμ •μΈ 것듀 μ€‘μ—μ„œ κΈ°λŒ€ν•˜κ³  계신 뢀뢄듀에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλ„ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³Ό 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?

ν™”μž 2: λ„€, κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€, Matt. 이 μžλ¦¬μ— μ°Έμ„ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜μ–΄ κΈ°μ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·€ν•˜μ˜ 질문과 κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œ, 저희가 κΈ€λ‘œλ²Œ κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” κ΄‘λ²”μœ„ν•œ ν¬νŠΈν΄λ¦¬μ˜€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œ μ €ν¬μ˜ 성곡을 μ΄λŒμ–΄μ˜¨ μš”μΈμ΄μž λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œλ„ 저희 μ„±κ³΅μ˜ 핡심 동λ ₯이 될 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” 것은, 저희가 μ—…κ³„μ—μ„œ 정말 νƒ€μ˜ 좔쒅을 λΆˆν—ˆν•˜λŠ” μ°¨λ³„ν™”λœ μ œν’ˆ 포트폴리였λ₯Ό λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
We have the safest products that's really supported with clinical data in The U. S. Speaker 2: We have our five year data from the FDA study that supports that. It's a far superior safety profile than what's in the market. And also we're the real leaders in innovation in the industry. And so what we've been able to develop really outside The U. S. Speaker 2: Is a wide spectrum of products from our round product to Ergo to Ergo two to our minimally invasive platform that contains Prezervae as well as our premium product Mia. So

each one of the products creates value and differentiation at different price points.
λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ μž„μƒ λ°μ΄ν„°λ‘œ λ’·λ°›μΉ¨λ˜λŠ” κ°€μž₯ μ•ˆμ „ν•œ μ œν’ˆλ“€μ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: FDA μ—°κ΅¬μ—μ„œ λ‚˜μ˜¨ 5λ…„κ°„μ˜ 데이터가 이λ₯Ό λ’·λ°›μΉ¨ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŠ” ν˜„μž¬ μ‹œμž₯에 λ‚˜μ™€ μžˆλŠ” μ œν’ˆλ“€λ³΄λ‹€ 훨씬 μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ•ˆμ „μ„± ν”„λ‘œνŒŒμΌμ„ λ³΄μ—¬μ€λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ˜ν•œ μ €ν¬λŠ” μ—…κ³„μ—μ„œ ν˜μ‹ μ˜ μ§„μ •ν•œ λ¦¬λ”μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 저희가 λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œ κ°œλ°œν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆλ˜ 것은

ν™”μž 2: λΌμš΄λ“œ μ œν’ˆλΆ€ν„° Ergo, Ergo 2, 그리고 Prezervaeλ₯Ό ν¬ν•¨ν•œ μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅ ν”Œλž«νΌκ³Ό 프리미엄 μ œν’ˆμΈ MiaκΉŒμ§€ κ΄‘λ²”μœ„ν•œ μ œν’ˆ μŠ€νŽ™νŠΈλŸΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

각각의 μ œν’ˆλ“€μ€ μ„œλ‘œ λ‹€λ₯Έ κ°€κ²©λŒ€μ—μ„œ κ°€μΉ˜μ™€ 차별화λ₯Ό μ°½μΆœν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
But they're all really founded and really built on superior performance and superior safety. And so in The
U. S. Speaker 2: Where we are today, it's really the early stages. We have around an Ergo one product in the market. But over the next two to three years, we're expecting to launch really a super cycle of innovation. We're going to have the recon indication. We're also going to be launching Preservae. Speaker 2: It's part of the minimally invasive platform. And then a little bit further out, once we do the PMA supplement for Ergo two, we'll be able to launch Mia.
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이 λͺ¨λ“  μ œν’ˆλ“€μ€ μ •λ§λ‘œ λ›°μ–΄λ‚œ μ„±λŠ₯κ³Ό μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ•ˆμ „μ„±μ„ 기반으둜 μ„€λ¦½λ˜κ³  κ΅¬μΆ•λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ

ν™”μž 2: ν˜„μž¬ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μžˆλŠ” μœ„μΉ˜λŠ” 정말 초기 λ‹¨κ³„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹œμž₯에 Ergo one μ œν’ˆ ν•˜λ‚˜ 정도λ₯Ό λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ ν–₯ν›„ 2~3년에 걸쳐 μ •λ§λ‘œ ν˜μ‹ μ˜ μŠˆνΌμ‚¬μ΄ν΄μ„ μΆœμ‹œν•  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ˜ˆμƒν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. recon 적응증을 확보할 μ˜ˆμ •μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ˜ν•œ μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅ ν”Œλž«νΌμ˜ 일뢀인 Preservae도 μΆœμ‹œν•  μ˜ˆμ •μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 쑰금 더 λ‚˜μ€‘μ— Ergo two에 λŒ€ν•œ PMA 보완을 μ™„λ£Œν•˜λ©΄ Miaλ₯Ό μΆœμ‹œν•  수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And so all this will be in the next two to three years, which is going to enable us to build a very strong business in The U. S. We have already a best in class organization and we're seeing a lot of success in the market. Speaker 2: So it's really going to kind of build out that portfolio. Speaker 1: Fantastic. So maybe we could start again high level on the market a little bit and talk about some of the key trends there. There's been a lot of investors talking about macro pressures and how that could impact consumer discretionary purchases.이 λͺ¨λ“  것이 ν–₯ν›„ 2-3λ…„ 내에 μ΄λ£¨μ–΄μ§ˆ μ˜ˆμ •μ΄λ©°, 이λ₯Ό 톡해 λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ 맀우 κ°•λ ₯ν•œ 사업을 ꡬ좕할 수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €ν¬λŠ” 이미 업계 졜고 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ 쑰직을 λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  있으며, μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ λ§Žμ€ 성곡을 거두고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ”°λΌμ„œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ ν•΄λ‹Ή 포트폴리였λ₯Ό ꡬ좕해 λ‚˜κ°€λŠ” 것이 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: ν›Œλ₯­ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ μ‹œμž₯에 λŒ€ν•΄ λ‹€μ‹œ ν•œλ²ˆ 높은 μ°¨μ›μ—μ„œ μ‹œμž‘ν•΄μ„œ μ£Όμš” νŠΈλ Œλ“œλ“€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•΄λ³ΌκΉŒμš”. λ§Žμ€ νˆ¬μžμžλ“€μ΄ κ±°μ‹œκ²½μ œμ  μ••λ°•κ³Ό 이것이 μ†ŒλΉ„μž μž¬λŸ‰μ§€μΆœμ— μ–΄λ–€ 영ν–₯을 λ―ΈμΉ  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ λ…Όμ˜ν•΄μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And I would love to just get some insight into how the market's been growing, how you're doing within it, and what you think the outlook is for the

Speaker 2: Yes. So I think that's a fair point in terms of the OUS market. In general, in what we've seen, it's been pretty stable. But obviously there's a lot of uncertainty around the macroeconomic situation, especially with the tariff discussions. But as I said before, you know, we haven't seen a real impact in terms of the level of procedures. Speaker 2: Obviously, I think this is more of a lagging indicator. It's something that we're

staying very close to.
ν•΄μ™Έ μ‹œμž₯이 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ„±μž₯ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€, κ·Έ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 저희가 μ–΄λ–€ μ„±κ³Όλ₯Ό λ‚΄κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€, 그리고 전망에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•˜μ‹œλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•œ 톡찰을 λ“£κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ„€, ν•΄μ™Έ μ‹œμž₯에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” νƒ€λ‹Ήν•œ 지적이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ „λ°˜μ μœΌλ‘œ 저희가 κ΄€μ°°ν•œ λ°”λ‘œλŠ” μ‹œμž₯이 κ½€ μ•ˆμ •μ μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ κ±°μ‹œκ²½μ œ 상황, 특히 κ΄€μ„Έ λ…Όμ˜μ™€ κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œλŠ” λ§Žμ€ λΆˆν™•μ‹€μ„±μ΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ•žμ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, μ‹œμˆ  건수 μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œλŠ” μ‹€μ§ˆμ μΈ 영ν–₯을 아직 보지 λͺ»ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ¬Όλ‘  μ΄λŠ” ν›„ν–‰μ§€ν‘œμ μΈ 성격이 더 κ°•ν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 저희가 맀우 λ©΄λ°€νžˆ λͺ¨λ‹ˆν„°λ§ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” λΆ€λΆ„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And also put ourselves in a position to course correct when we do see changes in the different markets. I would say that so far we haven't seen any material impact to that. But obviously we're very close to it. Speaker 2: You look at the different regions, I would say Asia Pac for us is stable and we're seeing pockets of growth. And then we highlighted in the earnings call, China is a market that we had a pipeline fill the last year and we're not looking to get any sell in for the first half, so probably in the back half of the year. And then in Europe, I think it's a stable market. We see areas where we're having good growth and then we have some challenges.그리고 λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ λ³€ν™”λ₯Ό κ°μ§€ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ λ°©ν–₯을 μˆ˜μ •ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” μœ„μΉ˜μ— 우리 μžμ‹ μ„ 두고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€λŠ” 그에 λŒ€ν•œ μ€‘λŒ€ν•œ 영ν–₯을 보지 λͺ»ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이λ₯Ό 맀우 λ©΄λ°€νžˆ μ§€μΌœλ³΄κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ 지역을 μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄λ©΄, μ•„μ‹œμ•„ νƒœν‰μ–‘ 지역은 μ•ˆμ •μ μ΄λ©° λΆ€λΆ„μ μœΌλ‘œ μ„±μž₯ν•˜λŠ” μ˜μ—­λ“€μ„ 보고 μžˆλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 싀적 λ°œν‘œμ—μ„œ κ°•μ‘°ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, 쀑ꡭ은 μž‘λ…„μ— νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈμ„ μ±„μ› λ˜ μ‹œμž₯이며, μƒλ°˜κΈ°μ—λŠ” μ–΄λ–€ λ§€μΆœλ„ κΈ°λŒ€ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šκ³  μžˆμ–΄μ„œ μ•„λ§ˆλ„ ν•˜λ°˜κΈ°μ—λ‚˜ κ°€λŠ₯ν•  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ λ³΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 유럽의 경우, μ•ˆμ •μ μΈ μ‹œμž₯이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 쒋은 μ„±μž₯을 보이고 μžˆλŠ” μ˜μ—­λ“€μ΄ μžˆλŠ” 반면 일뢀 λ„μ „κ³Όμ œλ“€λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Very happy with our performance in The U. Speaker 2: K. And Spain, also in some of the distributor markets such as Poland and Russia. And so we're really gaining share in those markets. And what's really helping us drive the business where we're very confident in 2025 is we roll out the PRESERVAY minimally invasive products. There's very strong interest. Speaker 2: We started that rollout at beginning of this year and continues to have a lot of interest. And so that's going to help drive our business in Europe. And then for us, Latin America has been probably the biggest challenge over the last twelve to eighteen months, in particular when we talk about Brazil.영ꡭ과 μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ—μ„œμ˜ 성과에 맀우 λ§Œμ‘±ν•˜κ³  있으며, ν΄λž€λ“œμ™€ λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„ 같은 μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œλ„ 쒋은 μ„±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보이고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ μœ μœ¨μ„ ν™•λŒ€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 2025년에 λŒ€ν•΄ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜λŠ” 사업 μ„±μž₯ 동λ ₯은 PRESERVAY μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅ μ œν’ˆμ˜ μΆœμ‹œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 맀우 κ°•ν•œ 관심을 λ°›κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: μ˜¬ν•΄ μ΄ˆλΆ€ν„° ν•΄λ‹Ή μ œν’ˆ μΆœμ‹œλ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμœΌλ©° μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ λ§Žμ€ 관심을 λ°›κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이것이 μœ λŸ½μ—μ„œ 우리 사업을 κ²¬μΈν•˜λŠ” 데 도움이 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ €ν¬μ—κ²Œ λΌν‹΄μ•„λ©”λ¦¬μΉ΄λŠ” μ§€λ‚œ 12κ°œμ›”μ—μ„œ 18κ°œμ›” λ™μ•ˆ μ•„λ§ˆλ„ κ°€μž₯ 큰 λ„μ „μ΄μ—ˆμœΌλ©°, 특히 λΈŒλΌμ§ˆμ„ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•  λ•Œ κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
However, we have seen some stabilization in that market the end of last year. And I think with the we're also launching Preservay there. Speaker 2: So we're going to see some sequential growth, but I think that still continues to be a market and a region overall that's a little bit challenging from a macroeconomic standpoint. Speaker 1: Great. And as a reminder, you guided to mid single digit growth guide in 2025. Maybe you could talk a little bit about how that guidance was constructed and how confident you are in hitting the high and low end of the guide given the trends you saw in Q1? Speaker 3: Yes.κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μž‘λ…„ 말에 ν•΄λ‹Ή μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ μ–΄λŠ 정도 μ•ˆμ •ν™”λ₯Ό λ³΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 저희가 κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ Preservay도 μΆœμ‹œν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ”°λΌμ„œ 순차적인 μ„±μž₯을 보게 될 κ²ƒμ΄μ§€λ§Œ, μ—¬μ „νžˆ κ±°μ‹œκ²½μ œμ  κ΄€μ μ—μ„œ μ „λ°˜μ μœΌλ‘œ λ‹€μ†Œ 도전적인 μ‹œμž₯이자 지역이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 참고둜 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, 2025년에 쀑간 ν•œ 자릿수 μ„±μž₯ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€λ₯Ό μ œμ‹œν•˜μ…¨μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•΄λ‹Ή κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€κ°€ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ κ΅¬μ„±λ˜μ—ˆλŠ”μ§€, 그리고 1뢄기에 보신 νŠΈλ Œλ“œλ₯Ό κ³ λ €ν•  λ•Œ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€μ˜ μƒν•œκ³Ό ν•˜ν•œμ„ λ‹¬μ„±ν•˜λŠ” 데 μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ 확신을 κ°–κ³  계신지 쑰금 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?

λ°œν‘œμž 3: λ„€.
Think as Peter noted, we continue to be very vigilant to any changes in the underlying market conditions. But thus far, we really haven't seen anything meaningful at this point. And the overall guidance of $2.00 5,000,000 to $210,000,000 roughly 25% at the midpoint, we're still very confident in those numbers. And again, our philosophy around this is to be conservative and see how things play out over the course of the year. Speaker 3: But as we sit here today, we remain very comfortable with the outlook we've given. Speaker 1: Now, and part of that has been the strong performance in The U. S. And obviously, that's a big focus for investors.ν”Όν„°κ°€ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” κΈ°μ € μ‹œμž₯ μƒν™©μ˜ 변화에 λŒ€ν•΄ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 맀우 주의 깊게 κ΄€μ°°ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€λŠ” ν˜„ μ‹œμ μ—μ„œ 의미 μžˆλŠ” λ³€ν™”λ₯Ό μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 보지 λͺ»ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 쀑간값 κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œ μ•½ 25%에 ν•΄λ‹Ήν•˜λŠ” 2μ–΅ 500만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ—μ„œ 2μ–΅ 1,000만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ˜ 전체 κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€μ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” μ—¬μ „νžˆ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ‹€μ‹œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬μ§€λ§Œ, 이에 λŒ€ν•œ μ €ν¬μ˜ 철학은 보수적으둜 μ ‘κ·Όν•˜μ—¬ 연쀑 상황이 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ „κ°œλ˜λŠ”μ§€ μ§€μΌœλ³΄λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 였늘 ν˜„μž¬ μƒν™©μ—μ„œ 저희가 μ œμ‹œν•œ 전망에 λŒ€ν•΄ 맀우 νŽΈμ•ˆν•˜κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: 그리고 κ·Έ μΌλΆ€λŠ” λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œμ˜ κ°•λ ₯ν•œ μ„±κ³Ό λ•λΆ„μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ μ΄λŠ” νˆ¬μžμžλ“€μ—κ²Œ 큰 κ΄€μ‹¬μ‚¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
So you talked most recently about 900 accounts and it seems like you've been adding about 100 a month. So I was curious if you could talk a little bit about the ramp in The U. Speaker 1: S, how things are doing there. And you said on the last call that you're confident that you could get some upside to the guide, but it seems like you're still remaining conservative there. We'd love to get any more if you want to give us a new account disclosure, that would be great. Speaker 2: Yes. So we probably won't, okay?μ΅œκ·Όμ— 900개 계정에 λŒ€ν•΄ λ§μ”€ν•˜μ…¨λŠ”λ°, λ§€μ›” μ•½ 100κ°œμ”© μΆ”κ°€ν•˜κ³  계신 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œμ˜ λž¨ν”„μ—…(ramp-up)에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ’€ 더 μžμ„Ένžˆ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€, 그리고 κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ 상황이 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ§„ν–‰λ˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€ κΆκΈˆν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ§€λ‚œ 컨퍼런슀 μ½œμ—μ„œ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€ λŒ€λΉ„ 상ν–₯ μ—¬μ§€κ°€ μžˆλ‹€κ³  ν™•μ‹ ν•œλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€ν•˜μ…¨λŠ”λ°, μ—¬μ „νžˆ 보수적인 μž…μž₯을 μœ μ§€ν•˜κ³  계신 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 더 μžμ„Έν•œ λ‚΄μš©μ„ μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ‹œλ©΄ μ’‹κ² κ³ , μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 계정 κ³΅μ‹œλ₯Ό ν•΄μ£Όμ‹ λ‹€λ©΄ 정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ„€, μ•„λ§ˆ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•˜μ§€λŠ” μ•Šμ„ 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
I think we gave a lot of details in terms of the performance, and we did that for really make a lot of the investors feel comfortable in terms of where we're tracking with the business in The U. S. But what I can say is we continue to be incredibly happy with the performance there. Speaker 2: It continues to exceed our expectations. We've added additional accounts. We've got onboarded additional accounts. They're ordering, increasing our average sales on a daily and weekly basis. But what we mentioned in the last earnings call, I mean, we're not going to continue to provide that information.저희가 싀적에 λŒ€ν•΄ λ§Žμ€ 세뢀사항을 μ œκ³΅ν–ˆλŠ”λ°, μ΄λŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ λ§Žμ€ νˆ¬μžμžλ“€μ΄ λ―Έκ΅­ μ‚¬μ—…μ—μ„œ 저희가 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ§„ν–‰λ˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ•ˆμ‹¬ν•  수 μžˆλ„λ‘ ν•˜κΈ° μœ„ν•΄μ„œμ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ œκ°€ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦΄ 수 μžˆλŠ” 것은 저희가 κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œμ˜ 싀적에 λŒ€ν•΄ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 맀우 λ§Œμ‘±ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 저희 κΈ°λŒ€μΉ˜λ₯Ό λ›°μ–΄λ„˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μΆ”κ°€ 계정듀을 ν™•λ³΄ν–ˆκ³ , μΆ”κ°€ 계정듀을 μ˜¨λ³΄λ”©ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이듀이 주문을 ν•˜κ³  있으며, 일일 및 μ£Όκ°„ κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œ 저희 평균 λ§€μΆœμ„ μ¦κ°€μ‹œν‚€κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ§€λ‚œ 싀적 λ°œν‘œμ—μ„œ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ 정보λ₯Ό 계속 μ œκ³΅ν•˜μ§€λŠ” μ•Šμ„ μ˜ˆμ •μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: I think, as I said before, that was something that we shared just to give people comfort in terms of the progress. But we continue to be very positive and bullish with our opportunity in The U. S. And as I mentioned before, I think we have a great product, but I think we're really coupling that with a tremendous organization. I think it's a best in class organization we have in The U. Speaker 2: S. And so we feel very confident with the guidance we've provided and then certainly exceeding that.λ°œν‘œμž 2: μ•žμ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, μ΄λŠ” μ§„μ „ 상황에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ•ˆμ‹¬μ„ λ“œλ¦¬κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ κ³΅μœ ν•œ λ‚΄μš©μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ €ν¬λŠ” λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œμ˜ κΈ°νšŒμ— λŒ€ν•΄ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 맀우 긍정적이고 낙관적인 μž…μž₯을 μœ μ§€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이전에 μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ μ œν’ˆμ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λ©°, 이λ₯Ό λ›°μ–΄λ‚œ 쑰직과 κ²°ν•©ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  λ΄…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ λ³΄μœ ν•œ 쑰직은 업계 졜고 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ 쑰직이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 저희가 μ œμ‹œν•œ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  있으며, λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ κ·Έ 수치λ₯Ό μƒνšŒν•  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ κΈ°λŒ€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear more about the organization because I have heard qualitatively that you've brought in a lot of really good salespeople and have been able to get talent from some of your competition. So we'd love for you to give some texture to that and maybe talk about the type of folks who are coming over, why they're attracted to this, and how much of a difference a good commercial organization like that can make? Speaker 2: Well, think so first off, as I said, I think we have a best in class organization that has a lot of experience in the industry.**λ°œν‘œμž 1:** 쑰직에 λŒ€ν•΄ 더 μžμ„Ένžˆ λ“£κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ •μ„±μ μœΌλ‘œλŠ” 정말 μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ˜μ—… 인λ ₯듀을 많이 μ˜μž…ν•˜μ…¨κ³  κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€λ‘œλΆ€ν„° μΈμž¬λ“€μ„ 확보할 수 μžˆμ—ˆλ‹€κ³  λ“€μ—ˆκ±°λ“ μš”. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·Έ 뢀뢄에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ’€ 더 ꡬ체적으둜 μ„€λͺ…ν•΄ μ£Όμ‹œκ³ , μ–΄λ–€ μœ ν˜•μ˜ μΈμž¬λ“€μ΄ ν•©λ₯˜ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€, μ™œ 그듀이 이곳에 λ§€λ ₯을 λŠλΌλŠ”μ§€, 그리고 그런 μš°μˆ˜ν•œ 상업 쑰직이 μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ 큰 차이λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€μ–΄λ‚Ό 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œλ©΄ μ’‹κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** λ„€, μš°μ„  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, μ €ν¬λŠ” μ—…κ³„μ—μ„œ ν’λΆ€ν•œ κ²½ν—˜μ„ λ³΄μœ ν•œ 졜고 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ 쑰직을 κ°–μΆ”κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And I think you know, when you look at the competitive set and the companies that they're coming from, it's not necessarily a priority to them. And I think that they saw Establishment Labs as a company that's dedicated, focused to the aesthetics space. And they saw this as a tremendous opportunity. And I think because of that, from Jeff Earhart and to the leadership team down, we've been able to attract some of the best talent in the industry. Speaker 2: And I think that obviously has a huge benefit. I think they have established relationships in the marketplace. They know what good looks like. I think that's critical for us. I mean, we're doing everything from the ground zero.그리고 κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€κ³Ό 그듀이 μΆœμ‹  νšŒμ‚¬λ“€μ„ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄λ©΄, 미용 λΆ„μ•Όκ°€ λ°˜λ“œμ‹œ κ·Έλ“€μ˜ μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„λŠ” μ•„λ‹ˆλΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그듀은 Establishment Labsλ₯Ό 미용 뢄야에 μ „λ…ν•˜κ³  μ§‘μ€‘ν•˜λŠ” νšŒμ‚¬λ‘œ λ³΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 이λ₯Ό μ—„μ²­λ‚œ 기회둜 μ—¬κ²Όλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλ ‡κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— Jeff EarhartλΆ€ν„° 리더십 νŒ€μ— 이λ₯΄κΈ°κΉŒμ§€, μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 업계 졜고의 μΈμž¬λ“€μ„ μœ μΉ˜ν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: 그리고 이것이 λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ 큰 이읡을 κ°€μ Έλ‹€μ€€λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그듀은 μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ κΈ°μ‘΄ 관계λ₯Ό κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그듀은 무엇이 쒋은 것인지 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이것이 μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ 맀우 μ€‘μš”ν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λͺ¨λ“  것을 μ²˜μŒλΆ€ν„° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜κ³  있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: And I think when you have a leadership team there that knows what good looks like,

I think it's been very easy for us to assemble what we think is the best operating models in The

U. S. So for us, I think that is one of the key drivers for our success. I mean, it's not only the products that we have and the safety profile, it's also the capabilities of the organization. Speaker 1: How would you compare how The U. S. Launch is going versus some of the other markets that you've launched in historically? Has it been easier to take share, harder to take share? Is it similar? Speaker 1: What's different or similar about The U. S. Versus some of the other analogies?
**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** 그리고 μ €λŠ” 그곳에 무엇이 쒋은 것인지 μ•„λŠ” 리더십 νŒ€μ΄ μžˆμ„ λ•Œ, λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ 졜고의 운영 λͺ¨λΈμ΄λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” 것을 κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ 맀우 쉬웠닀고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ μžˆμ–΄ 이것이 μ„±κ³΅μ˜ 핡심 동λ ₯ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 즉, μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ³΄μœ ν•œ μ œν’ˆλ“€κ³Ό μ•ˆμ „μ„± ν”„λ‘œνŒŒμΌλΏλ§Œ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ 쑰직의 μ—­λŸ‰λ„ μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 1:** λ―Έκ΅­ μΆœμ‹œκ°€ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ§„ν–‰λ˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€λ₯Ό μ—­μ‚¬μ μœΌλ‘œ μΆœμ‹œν–ˆλ˜ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‹œμž₯λ“€κ³Ό λΉ„κ΅ν•˜λ©΄ μ–΄λ–»μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ? μ‹œμž₯ μ μœ μœ¨μ„ ν™•λ³΄ν•˜κΈ°κ°€ 더 μ‰¬μ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ, 더 μ–΄λ €μ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ? λΉ„μŠ·ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?

**λ°œν‘œμž 1:** λ―Έκ΅­κ³Ό λ‹€λ₯Έ μœ μ‚¬ 사둀듀을 λΉ„κ΅ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ 무엇이 λ‹€λ₯΄κ±°λ‚˜ λΉ„μŠ·ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
Speaker 2: I mean, think the first thing, I mean, market is a little bit different from the competitive set in terms of the trends, in terms of the market dynamics, and I think also ultimately in terms of the capabilities. I think when you look at outside The U. S, I mean we're in close to 90 different countries and I think we have a leading share in a number of those markets. But I think what really determines the success in a market is if you have a superior product that really meets the demands of the patients as well as the surgeons, and you couple that with very strong organizational capabilities. And I think that's what we've done in a number of markets that we've had overseas.λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ¨Όμ € λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬κ³  싢은 것은, μ‹œμž₯이 κ²½μŸμ—…μ²΄λ“€κ³ΌλŠ” νŠΈλ Œλ“œ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ, μ‹œμž₯ μ—­ν•™ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ, 그리고 κΆκ·Ήμ μœΌλ‘œλŠ” μ—­λŸ‰ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œλ„ λ‹€μ†Œ λ‹€λ₯΄λ‹€λŠ” μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ 지역을 보면, μ €ν¬λŠ” 거의 90κ°œκ΅­μ— μ§„μΆœν•΄ 있으며 κ·Έ 쀑 λ‹€μˆ˜ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 선도적인 μ μœ μœ¨μ„ ν™•λ³΄ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œμ˜ 성곡을 κ²°μ •ν•˜λŠ” 것은 ν™˜μžμ™€ μ™Έκ³Όμ˜μ‚¬λ“€μ˜ μš”κ΅¬λ₯Ό μ§„μ •μœΌλ‘œ μΆ©μ‘±μ‹œν‚€λŠ” μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ œν’ˆμ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³ , 이λ₯Ό 맀우 κ°•λ ₯ν•œ 쑰직 μ—­λŸ‰κ³Ό κ²°ν•©ν•˜λŠ” 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 이것이 λ°”λ‘œ 저희가 ν•΄μ™Έ μ—¬λŸ¬ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ ν•΄μ˜¨ 일이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: And because of that, we've been able to attract a dominant share. And I think in the case of The U. S, I think that mirrors that And I think that's why we're very confident with our existing products as well as the pipeline that's coming that we're on track to becoming a leading player in The U. S. Market. Speaker 1: Can we just compare that to China for a second? You mentioned before that you had the sell in in China last year and you were thinking in the first half of this year, we're going to have much of that repeat yet. Why has China been slower maybe than I would have thought? And how do we think about the ramp in China over the next few years? Speaker 2: Yes.**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** 그리고 κ·Έ λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 지배적인 μ μœ μœ¨μ„ 확보할 수 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 미ꡭ의 κ²½μš°μ—λ„ 이와 같은 상황이 반영되고 μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이것이 λ°”λ‘œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ κΈ°μ‘΄ μ œν’ˆλ“€λΏλ§Œ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ μ•žμœΌλ‘œ μΆœμ‹œλ  νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈμ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλ„ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜λŠ” 이유이며, λ―Έκ΅­ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 선도적인 ν”Œλ ˆμ΄μ–΄κ°€ λ˜λŠ” ꢀ도에 올라 μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” μ΄μœ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 1:** 잠깐 쀑ꡭ과 비ꡐ해볼 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”? 이전에 λ§μ”€ν•˜μ‹  λ°”λ‘œλŠ” μž‘λ…„μ— μ€‘κ΅­μ—μ„œ 셀인(sell-in)이 μžˆμ—ˆκ³ , μ˜¬ν•΄ μƒλ°˜κΈ°μ—λŠ” 그런 상황이 많이 λ°˜λ³΅λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ„ κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μƒκ°ν•˜κ³  계신닀고 ν•˜μ…¨λŠ”λ°μš”. 쀑ꡭ이 μ œκ°€ μƒκ°ν–ˆλ˜ 것보닀 μ™œ 더 느린 것 같은지, 그리고 ν–₯ν›„ λͺ‡ λ…„κ°„ μ€‘κ΅­μ—μ„œμ˜ λž¨ν”„μ—…μ„ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 생각해야 ν• μ§€ κΆκΈˆν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** λ„€.
I mean, I think in China, obviously, it's not a direct market for us. It's through a distributor. I think those are decisions that we made based on really the resources that we had, both financial as well as organizational. So I think in the China market, you know, having full control and going through a third party, they're also building capabilities in that market as well. Speaker 2: I mean, it's a huge market. It's not an easy market. It requires a lot of resources. There is also the backdrop a little bit in terms of what we're seeing in terms of the market. It's not as progressing as much as I think we originally planned.μ€‘κ΅­μ˜ 경우, λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ μ €ν¬μ—κ²ŒλŠ” 직접 μ‹œμž₯이 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€. μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό 톡해 μ§„ν–‰ν•˜κ³  있죠. μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 결정듀은 저희가 λ³΄μœ ν•œ μžμ›, 즉 μž¬μ •μ  μžμ›κ³Ό 쑰직적 μžμ›μ„ λ°”νƒ•μœΌλ‘œ λ‚΄λ¦° 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 쀑ꡭ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œλŠ” μ™„μ „ν•œ ν†΅μ œκΆŒμ„ κ°–λŠ” 것과 제3자λ₯Ό 톡해 μ§„ν–‰ν•˜λŠ” 것 μ‚¬μ΄μ—μ„œ, κ·Έλ“€ λ˜ν•œ ν•΄λ‹Ή μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ μ—­λŸ‰μ„ κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: κ±°λŒ€ν•œ μ‹œμž₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‰¬μš΄ μ‹œμž₯이 μ•„λ‹ˆμ£ . λ§Žμ€ μžμ›μ΄ ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ˜ν•œ 저희가 μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 보고 μžˆλŠ” 상황을 배경으둜 λ³Ό λ•Œ, μ²˜μŒμ— κ³„νšν–ˆλ˜ 만큼 진전이 이루어지지 μ•Šκ³  μžˆλŠ” 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: But what we've seen with our distributor as they continue to build up their capabilities that we're seeing good sequential growth quarter over quarter. We're very confident that's going to continue, but it's going to be a longer process. Speaker 1: Maybe talk about the choice to use a distributor there. This is one that you know. And as a reminder, they made a big investment that was announced alongside the company in Q3 of last year. So can you talk about some of the capabilities they're building? Speaker 2: Yes. I think, I mean, whenever you go into a market, you need to assess, are you going to do it direct or are you going to do it through a distributor.**ν™”μž 2:** ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 저희 μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄κ°€ μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ μ—­λŸ‰μ„ ꡬ좕해 λ‚˜κ°€λ©΄μ„œ λΆ„κΈ° λŒ€λΉ„ 순차적으둜 μ–‘ν˜Έν•œ μ„±μž₯을 보이고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μ„±μž₯μ„Έκ°€ 지속될 것이라고 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ, λ‹€μ†Œ κΈ΄ 과정이 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**ν™”μž 1:** κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό μ„ νƒν•œ μ΄μœ μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ? μ΄λŠ” 잘 μ•Œκ³  계신 μ—…μ²΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 참고둜 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, μž‘λ…„ 3뢄기에 νšŒμ‚¬μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ λ°œν‘œλœ λŒ€κ·œλͺ¨ 투자λ₯Ό μ§„ν–‰ν•œ 업체이기도 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그듀이 κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” μ—­λŸ‰λ“€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?

**ν™”μž 2:** λ„€. 제 μƒκ°μ—λŠ”, μ–΄λ–€ μ‹œμž₯에 μ§„μΆœν•  λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€ 직접 μ§„μΆœν•  것인지 μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό 톡해 μ§„μΆœν•  것인지λ₯Ό 평가해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
A lot of that boils down to what is the financial requirement, the financial resources required to do it, as well as your organizational capabilities to do it. And, you know, quite honestly, any time you make an investment in a direct market, which we've done in The U. S, it's a significant investment from a financial as well as organizational. Speaker 2: And, you know, for us at the time, evaluating the opportunity, we felt that it was best suited to go through a distributor so we can really allocate and dedicate our limited resources
to The U. S. To also driving the innovation pipeline. Generally, Matt, in most of the markets outside The U.
이 λͺ¨λ“  것은 κ²°κ΅­ μž¬μ •μ  μš”κ΅¬μ‚¬ν•­, 즉 이λ₯Ό μˆ˜ν–‰ν•˜λŠ” 데 ν•„μš”ν•œ μž¬μ •μ  μžμ›κ³Ό 쑰직적 μ—­λŸ‰μœΌλ‘œ κ·€κ²°λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ†”μ§νžˆ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, 저희가 λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ ν–ˆλ˜ κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ 직접 μ‹œμž₯에 νˆ¬μžν•  λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€ μž¬μ •μ μœΌλ‘œλ‚˜ 쑰직적으둜 μƒλ‹Ήν•œ νˆ¬μžκ°€ ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ‹Ήμ‹œ 저희가 기회λ₯Ό ν‰κ°€ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ, μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό ν†΅ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ΅œμ„ μ΄λΌκ³  νŒλ‹¨ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이λ₯Ό 톡해 μ €ν¬μ˜ μ œν•œλœ μžμ›μ„ λ―Έκ΅­ μ‹œμž₯에 μ§‘μ€‘ν•˜κ³  λ™μ‹œμ— ν˜μ‹  νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈμ„ μΆ”μ§„ν•˜λŠ” 데 전념할 수 μžˆμ—ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 일반적으둜 Matt, λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œλŠ”...
S, we generally start with the distributor, get established proof points, and then

over time we acquire that distributor. Speaker 2: You know, for us at the time, I think it was the right approach. And, you know, we continue to think in terms of our priorities and, you know, how we want to manage the resources, the limited resources we had, it was probably best to go through a distributor. Speaker 1: And maybe switching gears, I wanted to talk a little bit about Mia and Prezurve. And these products that you've talked about being market expanding, you're now guiding to, I think, 8,000,000 to $10,000,000 for EMEA this year.
S, 일반적으둜 μ €ν¬λŠ” μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λΆ€ν„° μ‹œμž‘ν•΄μ„œ μž…μ¦λœ μ„±κ³Όλ₯Ό ν™•λ³΄ν•œ λ‹€μŒ, μ‹œκ°„μ΄ μ§€λ‚˜λ©΄μ„œ ν•΄λ‹Ή μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό μΈμˆ˜ν•˜λŠ” 방식을 μ·¨ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ‹Ήμ‹œ μ €ν¬μ—κ²ŒλŠ” μ˜¬λ°”λ₯Έ μ ‘κ·Όλ²•μ΄μ—ˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ €ν¬μ˜ μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„μ™€ μ œν•œλœ μžμ›μ„ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 관리할지λ₯Ό κ³ λ €ν•  λ•Œ, μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄λ₯Ό ν†΅ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ•„λ§ˆλ„ μ΅œμ„ μ΄μ—ˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 1: 그리고 ν™”μ œλ₯Ό λ°”κΏ”μ„œ, Mia와 Prezurve에 λŒ€ν•΄ 쑰금 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹œμž₯ ν™•μž₯ μ œν’ˆμ΄λΌκ³  λ§μ”€ν•˜μ‹  이 μ œν’ˆλ“€μ— λŒ€ν•΄, ν˜„μž¬ μ˜¬ν•΄ EMEA μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œ 800만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ—μ„œ 1,000만 λ‹¬λŸ¬λ‘œ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€λ₯Ό μ œμ‹œν•˜κ³  계신 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
So I guess could we talk about the two products, how they kind of compare and complement each other? Sure. And I'd love to hear any proof points about how you think they've been market expanding to date. Speaker 2: Yes. So EMEA, we're very happy with the progress. I think we mentioned in the last earnings call the number of cities and we're in 75 clinics. That continues to expand. So we're really seeing good progress on the EMEA business. Speaker 2: I mean, keep in mind this is, you know, we haven't been in the market for a long time, but we continue to build that out.κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 두 μ œν’ˆμ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λΉ„κ΅λ˜κ³  μ„œλ‘œ λ³΄μ™„ν•˜λŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기해볼 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”? λ¬Όλ‘ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€ 이 μ œν’ˆλ“€μ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ‹œμž₯을 ν™•μž₯μ‹œμΌ°λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜μ‹œλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•œ ꡬ체적인 증거듀을 λ“£κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ„€. EMEA의 경우, μ§„μ „ 상황에 맀우 λ§Œμ‘±ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ§€λ‚œ μ‹€μ λ°œν‘œμ—μ„œ λ„μ‹œ 수λ₯Ό μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλŠ”λ°, ν˜„μž¬ 75개 클리닉에 μ§„μΆœν•΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŠ” 계속 ν™•μž₯되고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ EMEA μ‚¬μ—…μ—μ„œ 정말 쒋은 진전을 보이고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ¬Όλ‘  μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‹œμž₯에 μ§„μΆœν•œ μ§€ μ˜€λž˜λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜λ‹€λŠ” 점을 염두에 두셔야 ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ, κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 사업을 ꡬ좕해 λ‚˜κ°€κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
You know, what we're seeing in terms of market expanding is, you know, in our studies, close to forty percent of Mia users are patients that really never considered a breast augmentation. So I think that really demonstrates that it's certainly market expanding. Also we get very positive NPS scores, customer satisfaction scores. So I think it really demonstrates the potential of that market. Speaker 2: But where we see a huge value is really looking at this on a broad basis with the minimally invasive platform with the launch of Preserve. So Preserve is really something that can be used across more procedures. So it really expands the market. You can have larger cup sizes.μ•Œλ €λ“œλ¦¬μžλ©΄, μ‹œμž₯ ν™•μž₯ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ 저희가 보고 μžˆλŠ” 것은, 저희 연ꡬ에 λ”°λ₯΄λ©΄ Mia μ‚¬μš©μžμ˜ 거의 40%κ°€ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μœ λ°©ν™•λŒ€μˆ μ„ μ „ν˜€ κ³ λ €ν•΄λ³Έ 적이 μ—†λ˜ ν™˜μžλ“€μ΄λΌλŠ” μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 이것이 ν™•μ‹€νžˆ μ‹œμž₯을 ν™•μž₯ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것을 보여쀀닀고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ˜ν•œ μ €ν¬λŠ” 맀우 긍정적인 NPS μ μˆ˜μ™€ 고객 λ§Œμ‘±λ„ 점수λ₯Ό λ°›κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이것이 ν•΄λ‹Ή μ‹œμž₯의 잠재λ ₯을 μ •λ§λ‘œ 보여쀀닀고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 저희가 큰 κ°€μΉ˜λ₯Ό λ³΄λŠ” 뢀뢄은 Preserve μΆœμ‹œμ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅ ν”Œλž«νΌμ„ κ΄‘λ²”μœ„ν•œ κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œ λ°”λΌλ³΄λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. PreserveλŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 더 λ§Žμ€ μ‹œμˆ μ— μ‚¬μš©λ  수 μžˆλŠ” μ œν’ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 이것이 μ •λ§λ‘œ μ‹œμž₯을 ν™•μž₯μ‹œν‚΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 더 큰 μ»΅ μ‚¬μ΄μ¦ˆλ„ κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
You can have mastopexy. Speaker 2: It's more procedures. It's also available to more clinics. It's a process that I think a lot of the surgeons are already accustomed to. So we're really using Preserve to complement what Mia has and really build out the minimally invasive platform. As I mentioned, you know, we rolled that out in Europe earlier this year and the interest has been extremely strong. Speaker 2: Also we did that in Brazil and we had very strong interest. I mean in some respects more than we expected. So a little bit of a scramble to get to make sure we have the right supply. But I think this is really the wave of the future is minimally invasive.유방 κ³ μ •μˆ μ„ 받을 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: 더 λ§Žμ€ μ‹œμˆ μ΄ κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ˜ν•œ 더 λ§Žμ€ ν΄λ¦¬λ‹‰μ—μ„œ μ΄μš©ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŠ” λ§Žμ€ μ™Έκ³Όμ˜μ‚¬λ“€μ΄ 이미 μ΅μˆ™ν•œ 과정이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ €ν¬λŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ Preserveλ₯Ό μ‚¬μš©ν•˜μ—¬ Miaκ°€ λ³΄μœ ν•œ 것을 λ³΄μ™„ν•˜κ³  μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅ ν”Œλž«νΌμ„ κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, μ˜¬ν•΄ 초 μœ λŸ½μ—μ„œ 이λ₯Ό μΆœμ‹œν–ˆλŠ”λ° 관심이 맀우 λ†’μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ˜ν•œ λΈŒλΌμ§ˆμ—μ„œλ„ 이λ₯Ό μ‹€μ‹œν–ˆλŠ”λ° 맀우 κ°•ν•œ 관심을 λ³΄μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ–΄λ–€ λ©΄μ—μ„œλŠ” 저희가 μ˜ˆμƒν–ˆλ˜ 것보닀 더 λ§Žμ€ 관심을 λ°›μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ μ ˆν•œ 곡급을 ν™•λ³΄ν•˜κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ μ•½κ°„ λΆ„μ£Όν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ΅œμ†ŒμΉ¨μŠ΅μ΄μ•Όλ§λ‘œ 정말 미래의 흐름이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And you see that across a lot of different procedures. Speaker 2: I think we're really on the forefront. And I think combining Prezervae with Mia is for us the right way to do it. Speaker 1: And just wanted to be clear on the 8,000,000 to $10,000,000 does that include Preservaes or not? Speaker 2: That's just Mia. Speaker 1: And could Preservaes be material this year or next? Speaker 2: I think our expectation it would be material this year. I think it's going to drive a lot of the growth that we have in some of our OUS markets. Speaker 1: Got you. So I'd love to touch on recon as well. You mentioned before that as part of the super cycle of innovation.λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ μ‹œμˆ μ—μ„œ 이런 ν˜„μƒμ„ λ³Ό 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: 저희가 정말 μ΅œμ „μ„ μ— μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 Prezervae와 Miaλ₯Ό κ²°ν•©ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ €ν¬μ—κ²ŒλŠ” μ˜¬λ°”λ₯Έ λ°©ν–₯이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: 800만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ—μ„œ 1,000만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ— λŒ€ν•΄ λͺ…ν™•νžˆ ν•˜κ³  싢은데, 여기에 Prezervaeκ°€ ν¬ν•¨λ˜μ–΄ μžˆλ‚˜μš”?

λ°œν‘œμž 2: 그것은 Mia만의 μˆ˜μΉ˜μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ Prezervaeκ°€ μ˜¬ν•΄λ‚˜ 내년에 μ€‘μš”ν•œ 의미λ₯Ό κ°€μ§ˆ 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?

λ°œν‘œμž 2: μ˜¬ν•΄ μ€‘μš”ν•œ 의미λ₯Ό κ°€μ§ˆ κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ κΈ°λŒ€ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•΄μ™Έ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œμ˜ μ„±μž₯을 크게 견인할 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ λ³΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ•Œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 재건 뢄야에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλ„ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이전에 ν˜μ‹ μ˜ 슈퍼 μ‚¬μ΄ν΄μ˜ 일뢀라고 μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•˜μ…¨λŠ”λ°μš”.
So I'd love to hear more about where you are with the tissue expander. I know you've been getting into some accounts there. Speaker 1: And then could you talk about the pathway for recon in general and when you would expect that to be a contributor? Speaker 2: Yes. So as we mentioned in the last call, we're in 60 accounts. We're going through the VAC process and another 100. So we continue to expand that business. You know, what we're trying to do, Matt, is to really get a presence in maybe one or two key institutions in each of the geographies just to have a really strong presence.λ°œν‘œμž 1: 쑰직 ν™•μž₯κΈ°(tissue expander) κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œ ν˜„μž¬ 상황에 λŒ€ν•΄ 더 μžμ„Ένžˆ λ“£κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 일뢀 계정듀에 μ§„μž…ν•˜κ³  계신 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆλŠ”λ°μš”.

그리고 재건 λΆ„μ•Ό μ „λ°˜μ˜ μ§„ν–‰ κ²½λ‘œμ™€ μ–Έμ œμ―€ κΈ°μ—¬ μš”μΈμ΄ 될 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ˜ˆμƒν•˜μ‹œλŠ”μ§€ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?

λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ„€. μ§€λ‚œ μ½œμ—μ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, ν˜„μž¬ 60개 계정에 μ§„μž…ν•΄ 있고, μΆ”κ°€λ‘œ 100개 κ³„μ •μ—μ„œ VAC(Value Analysis Committee, κ°€μΉ˜λΆ„μ„μœ„μ›νšŒ) ν”„λ‘œμ„ΈμŠ€λ₯Ό μ§„ν–‰ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ ν•΄λ‹Ή 사업을 μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ ν™•μž₯ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

Matt, 저희가 μ‹œλ„ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 것은 각 μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œ ν•œλ‘ 개의 핡심 기관에 μ‹€μ§ˆμ μœΌλ‘œ κ°•λ ₯ν•œ μž…μ§€λ₯Ό ν™•λ³΄ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: But most of our focus in the sales organization is really around the odd business because we don't have currently the indication, recon indication. So we're trying to do a lot of this to set up so we have a good foundation so when we do have the recon indication. Where we are with that is we're going to be getting our three year data during the summer. We're going to be filing soon after that, the end of this year. And obviously, it's very dependent on the FDA, the timing, but we would hope to get recon indication back half of twenty twenty six and or the early twenty twenty seven. Speaker 2: But a lot of that is going to be very dependent on the FDA. Speaker 1: Great.**ν™”μž 2:** ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ˜μ—… μ‘°μ§μ—μ„œ 우리의 λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ 집쀑은 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ κΈ°μ‘΄ 사업(odd business) μ€‘μ‹¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ ν˜„μž¬ 재건술(recon) 적응증을 λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμ§€ μ•ŠκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 재건술 적응증을 ν™•λ³΄ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ 쒋은 κΈ°λ°˜μ„ κ°–μΆœ 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ λ§Žμ€ μ€€λΉ„λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν˜„μž¬ μ§„ν–‰ 상황을 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, 올 여름에 3λ…„ 데이터λ₯Ό 확보할 μ˜ˆμ •μ΄κ³ , κ·Έ 직후인 μ˜¬ν•΄ 말에 μ‹ μ²­μ„œλ₯Ό μ œμΆœν•  κ³„νšμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ¬Όλ‘  타이밍은 FDA에 맀우 μ˜μ‘΄μ μ΄μ§€λ§Œ, 2026λ…„ ν•˜λ°˜κΈ°λ‚˜ 2027λ…„ μ΄ˆμ— 재건술 적응증 μŠΉμΈμ„ λ°›κΈ°λ₯Ό ν¬λ§ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**ν™”μž 2:** ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이 λͺ¨λ“  것은 FDA에 맀우 의쑴적일 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**ν™”μž 1:** μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And then beyond recon, can we talk a little bit about the GEM program and anything else you would highlight in your pipeline? Speaker 2: Yes. So I think, in terms of the pipeline I mentioned, on a global basis, we have a number of excellent products that are still really have not entered The U. S. So I think we're going to have a nice pipeline of innovation over the next two to three years. I think beyond that, GEM is something that we're very excited about. Speaker 2: It's still very early stages.그리고 리콘 외에도 GEM ν”„λ‘œκ·Έλž¨κ³Ό νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈμ—μ„œ μ£Όλͺ©ν•  λ§Œν•œ λ‹€λ₯Έ 사항듀에 λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?

ν™”μž 2: λ„€. νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, κΈ€λ‘œλ²Œ μ°¨μ›μ—μ„œ 아직 λ―Έκ΅­ μ‹œμž₯에 μ§„μž…ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ œν’ˆλ“€μ΄ λ‹€μˆ˜ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ ν–₯ν›„ 2~3λ…„κ°„ ν˜μ‹ μ μΈ μ œν’ˆλ“€μ˜ ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈμ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ²Œ 될 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έ 외에도 GEM은 저희가 맀우 κΈ°λŒ€ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” ν”„λ‘œκ·Έλž¨μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: 아직은 맀우 초기 λ‹¨κ³„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
We're going to be looking at going to market really in test basis in some of the Latin American markets,

Speaker 3: where I


Speaker 2: think the approval process is going to be a lot easier for us. And we really want to

test out the concept, build out the capabilities and really understand the go to market, what would be the most effective before we start introducing that in some of our bigger markets. So that's some of the innovation we've talked about. There's other innovation that we haven't really talked about. I mean, this company is built on innovation. Speaker 2: We continue to drive that.
μ €ν¬λŠ” 라틴 아메리카 μ‹œμž₯ 쀑 μΌλΆ€μ—μ„œ ν…ŒμŠ€νŠΈ 기반으둜 μ‹œμž₯ μ§„μΆœμ„ κ²€ν† ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 3: κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œλŠ”

ν™”μž 2: 승인 μ ˆμ°¨κ°€ μ €ν¬μ—κ²Œ 훨씬 μˆ˜μ›”ν•  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μƒκ°λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ €ν¬λŠ” μ •λ§λ‘œ 컨셉을 ν…ŒμŠ€νŠΈν•˜κ³ , μ—­λŸ‰μ„ κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜λ©°, μ‹œμž₯ μ§„μΆœ 방식을 μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 더 큰 μ‹œμž₯듀에 λ„μž…ν•˜κΈ° 전에 μ–΄λ–€ 것이 κ°€μž₯ νš¨κ³Όμ μΌμ§€ νŒŒμ•…ν•˜κ³ μž ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이것이 저희가 λ…Όμ˜ν•œ ν˜μ‹  쀑 μΌλΆ€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 저희가 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ λ‹€λ₯Έ ν˜μ‹ λ“€λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 νšŒμ‚¬λŠ” ν˜μ‹ μ„ 기반으둜 κ΅¬μΆ•λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: μ €ν¬λŠ” κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 그것을 μΆ”μ§„ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
But I think for the next two to three years, we have a lot that we can use to continue to drive growth. And it's really going to be about our ability to execute and putting together the best organization to do that. Speaker 1: Maybe going back to the market, could we talk a little bit about the competitive set and anything that you've seen change with competition? I know Sientra has had some challenges and has changed hands. Are you seeing anything different from the larger companies or innovative, anything changing the landscape? Speaker 2: No. Mean, think listen, I think in general we would say we haven't seen a real concerted effort by, let's say, two major players.ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ ν–₯ν›„ 2-3λ…„ λ™μ•ˆμ€ 지속적인 μ„±μž₯을 견인할 수 μžˆλŠ” λ§Žμ€ μš”μ†Œλ“€μ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 정말 μ€‘μš”ν•œ 것은 우리의 μ‹€ν–‰ λŠ₯λ ₯κ³Ό 이λ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ 졜고의 쑰직을 κ΅¬μ„±ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ‹œμž₯으둜 λ‹€μ‹œ λŒμ•„κ°€μ„œ, 경쟁 ꡬ도에 λŒ€ν•΄ 쑰금 이야기해볼 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”? κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€μ—κ²Œμ„œ λ³€ν™”λ₯Ό λͺ©κ²©ν•˜μ‹  것이 μžˆλ‚˜μš”? Sientraκ°€ 어렀움을 κ²ͺκ³  있고 μ†Œμœ μ£Όκ°€ 바뀐 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆλŠ”λ°μš”. λŒ€ν˜• νšŒμ‚¬λ“€μ΄λ‚˜ ν˜μ‹ μ μΈ κΈ°μ—…λ“€λ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ‹€λ₯Έ μ›€μ§μž„μ„ 보고 계신지, 업계 ν™˜κ²½μ„ λ³€ν™”μ‹œν‚€λŠ” μš”μΈμ΄ μžˆλŠ”μ§€ κΆκΈˆν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: μ•„λ‹ˆμš”. 음, λ“€μ–΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”. 일반적으둜 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄ 두 μ£Όμš” 업체듀이 μ‹€μ§ˆμ μœΌλ‘œ 곡쑰된 λ…Έλ ₯을 κΈ°μšΈμ΄λŠ” 것은 보지 λͺ»ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦΄ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
I mean, there's pockets of activities. There's a lot of claims that are being made by different sales reps. I think in certain cases, they've been pushing in terms of some pricing activity. Speaker 2: But so far, we haven't really seen we've seen some responses, but I would say it's not been to the level that's aggressive enough and it's concerted that it's really impacted our business. So I think we continue to be very confident and bullish in terms of what we're doing. And we'll see over time if that changes. Obviously, as we start penetrating and get more share, I think that creates you know, greater threats and then probably more aggressive responses.일뢀 ν™œλ™λ“€μ΄ μ‚°λ°œμ μœΌλ‘œ λ‚˜νƒ€λ‚˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ—¬λŸ¬ μ˜μ—… λ‹΄λ‹Ήμžλ“€μ΄ λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ μ£Όμž₯을 ν•˜κ³  있고, νŠΉμ • κ²½μš°μ—λŠ” 일뢀 가격 ν™œλ™ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ 압박을 κ°€ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ³Έ λ°”λ‘œλŠ” 일뢀 λŒ€μ‘μ€ μžˆμ—ˆμ§€λ§Œ, μΆ©λΆ„νžˆ κ³΅κ²©μ μ΄κ±°λ‚˜ μ‘°μ§μ μ΄μ–΄μ„œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 우리 사업에 영ν–₯을 λ―ΈμΉ  μ •λ„λŠ” μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 일에 λŒ€ν•΄ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  낙관적이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹œκ°„μ΄ μ§€λ‚˜λ©΄μ„œ 상황이 λ°”λ€”μ§€ μ§€μΌœλ³΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‹œμž₯에 μΉ¨νˆ¬ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜κ³  더 λ§Žμ€ μ μœ μœ¨μ„ ν™•λ³΄ν•˜κ²Œ 되면, 그것이 더 큰 μœ„ν˜‘μ„ λ§Œλ“€μ–΄λ‚΄κ³  μ•„λ§ˆλ„ 더 곡격적인 λŒ€μ‘μ„ 뢈러올 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆcalls.
Speaker 1: How have you been able to do with price in The U. S? We've heard from some of our checks that you're at sort of a modest premium, kind of a mid or high single digit premium. And
I would love to hear about pricing internationally, too, and how that's holding up. Speaker 2: Yes. I think the pricing is what we've always wanted to do is have a slight premium versus the competitive set. That's how we try to do it, you know, not only in The U. S. But in a lot of the OUS markets. Speaker 2: You know, I think we believe we have a far superior product, superior safety profile. We are the leaders in terms of innovation. So that really warrants that premium pricing.
**λ°œν‘œμž 1:** λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ 가격 책정은 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ ν•˜κ³  κ³„μ‹ κ°€μš”? 저희가 ν™•μΈν•œ λ°”λ‘œλŠ” μ λ‹Ήν•œ 프리미엄, 즉 μ€‘κ°„μ—μ„œ 높은 ν•œ 자릿수 프리미엄을 λ°›κ³  계신 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 ν•΄μ™Έ 가격 책정에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλ„ λ“£κ³  μ‹Άκ³ , 그것이 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μœ μ§€λ˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œκ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** λ„€. 가격 μ±…μ •κ³Ό κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œ 저희가 항상 μΆ”κ΅¬ν•΄μ˜¨ 것은 κ²½μŸμ‚¬ λŒ€λΉ„ μ•½κ°„μ˜ 프리미엄을 κ°–λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이것이 저희가 미ꡭ뿐만 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ λ§Žμ€ ν•΄μ™Έ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œλ„ μ‹œλ„ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” λ°©μ‹μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**λ°œν‘œμž 2:** μ €ν¬λŠ” 훨씬 μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ œν’ˆκ³Ό λ›°μ–΄λ‚œ μ•ˆμ „μ„± ν”„λ‘œνŒŒμΌμ„ λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  λ―ΏμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €ν¬λŠ” ν˜μ‹  μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ μ„ λ„κΈ°μ—…μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 프리미엄 가격 책정이 μ •λ‹Ήν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Obviously, where you do run into some challenges is depending on how the competitors react to it. If they're going to react to a significant price discount, then you really have to say you have to look at and value it in a particular market, does our product warrant that type of premium? Speaker 2: And what we really try to do is just avoid any type of price competition because I think that erodes the real capabilities and what we are all about is focusing on a superior product that with a superior safety profile. Speaker 1: Got you. And Mia is sort of a different animal. Can you talk about how you're able to price that and what that means?λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ 도전에 μ§λ©΄ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜λŠ” 뢀뢄은 κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€μ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ°˜μ‘ν•˜λŠλƒμ— λ‹¬λ €μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ§Œμ•½ κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€μ΄ μƒλ‹Ήν•œ 가격 ν• μΈμœΌλ‘œ λŒ€μ‘ν•œλ‹€λ©΄, νŠΉμ • μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 우리 μ œν’ˆμ΄ 그런 μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 프리미엄을 μ •λ‹Ήν™”ν•  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄κ³  평가해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: 저희가 μ •λ§λ‘œ λ…Έλ ₯ν•˜λŠ” 것은 μ–΄λ–€ ν˜•νƒœμ˜ 가격 κ²½μŸμ΄λ“  ν”Όν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 그런 것듀이 μ§„μ •ν•œ μ—­λŸ‰μ„ ν›Όμ†ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄λ©°, 저희가 μ§‘μ€‘ν•˜λŠ” 것은 μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ•ˆμ „μ„± ν”„λ‘œνŒŒμΌμ„ κ°€μ§„ μš°μˆ˜ν•œ μ œν’ˆμ— μ΄ˆμ μ„ λ§žμΆ”λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 1: μ•Œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 MiaλŠ” λ‹€μ†Œ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ„±κ²©μ˜ μ œν’ˆμΈλ°μš”. μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 가격을 μ±…μ •ν•  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€, 그리고 그것이 무엇을 μ˜λ―Έν•˜λŠ”μ§€ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?
And I want to get into some margin discussion with Raj, too. So this is all sort of a You can hear the


Speaker 2: pricing stuff, too. Speaker 1: But, yeah, maybe talk about Mia and package compares in terms of the economics you're able to extract and what it means for the margins. Speaker 3: Well, think as Pete noted, you know, if you look across the portfolio from round ergonomics to ergonomics two to Preserve and up to MIA, right? At every step along the way, there's additional value for the patient, to the surgeon, and we as a company benefit from higher ASPs and higher gross margins. There's no sacrifice as a patient moves down.
그리고 Raj와도 λ§ˆμ§„μ— λŒ€ν•œ λ…Όμ˜λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 λͺ¨λ“  것이 μ–΄λ–€ λ©΄μ—μ„œλŠ”...

**ν™”μž 2**: 가격 κ΄€λ ¨ λ‚΄μš©λ„ 듀을 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

**ν™”μž 1**: ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ„€, Mia와 νŒ¨ν‚€μ§€ 비ꡐ μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ μΆ”μΆœν•  수 μžˆλŠ” 경제적 νš¨κ³Όμ™€ 그것이 λ§ˆμ§„μ— λ―ΈμΉ˜λŠ” μ˜λ―Έμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?

**ν™”μž 3**: κΈ€μŽ„μš”, Peteκ°€ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, 포트폴리였 μ „λ°˜μ„ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄λ©΄ λΌμš΄λ“œ 에λ₯΄κ³ λ…Έλ―ΉμŠ€λΆ€ν„° 에λ₯΄κ³ λ…Έλ―ΉμŠ€ 2, Preserve, 그리고 MIAκΉŒμ§€, 맞죠? 각 λ‹¨κ³„λ§ˆλ‹€ ν™˜μžμ—κ²Œ, μ™Έκ³Όμ˜μ—κ²Œ 좔가적인 κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ 있으며, 우리 νšŒμ‚¬λ„ 더 높은 ASP(평균 νŒλ§€κ°€κ²©)와 더 높은 μ΄λ§ˆμ§„μ˜ ν˜œνƒμ„ λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν™˜μžκ°€ (μ œν’ˆ 라인을) 선택할 λ•Œ μ–΄λ–€ 희생도 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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know, the round implant has all the same surface technology, the same construction. There's no compromise one needs to make. Speaker 3: And surgeons and patients can select as they want to along that path. And as Peter noted, in The US, we have the earliest part of that. We have rounded ergonomics. And so we have these other steps still to come. And you asked about Mia. Speaker 3: Mia is at the upper end, right? There is no visible scar. There's no general anesthesia. Patients are running out in fifteen minutes. It's a very unique offering. Speaker 3: And we price it as such, right? And as noted, we are seeing good traction.
λΌμš΄λ“œ μž„ν”Œλž€νŠΈλŠ” λ™μΌν•œ ν‘œλ©΄ 기술과 λ™μΌν•œ ꡬ쑰λ₯Ό λͺ¨λ‘ κ°–μΆ”κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ–΄λ–€ νƒ€ν˜‘λ„ ν•  ν•„μš”κ°€ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: μ™Έκ³Όμ˜μ‚¬μ™€ ν™˜μžλ“€μ€ κ·Έ 경둜λ₯Ό 따라 μ›ν•˜λŠ” λŒ€λ‘œ 선택할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν”Όν„°κ°€ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œλŠ” κ·Έ 초기 단계에 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΌμš΄λ“œ 에λ₯΄κ³ λ…Έλ―ΉμŠ€λ₯Ό λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  있죠. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 아직 λ‹€λ₯Έ 단계듀이 λ‚¨μ•„μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 Mia에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ§ˆλ¬Έν•˜μ…¨λŠ”λ°μš”.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: MiaλŠ” μ΅œμƒμœ„ μ œν’ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 흉터가 보이지 μ•Šκ³ , μ „μ‹ λ§ˆμ·¨κ°€ ν•„μš” μ—†μœΌλ©°, ν™˜μžλ“€μ΄ 15λΆ„ λ§Œμ— λ‚˜κ°ˆ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 맀우 λ…νŠΉν•œ μ œν’ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: 그리고 그에 맞게 가격을 μ±…μ •ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, 쒋은 견인λ ₯을 보이고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
We've been in the market for less than two years, and we'll do 8 to $10,000,000 as we mentioned this year, and it's growing very nicely. So I think having that portfolio and really that spectrum of products allowing both surgeons and patients to select where they want to be is the right strategy. Speaker 1: And then furthering the margin discussion. So you've talked about some goals now to become EBITDA positive by the end of the year and cash flow positive. Maybe talk about your confidence in those goals and remind us what's driving the profitability this year and your ability to achieve that. Speaker 3: Yes. Think to the question on the confidence, I mean, are very confident.μ €ν¬λŠ” μ‹œμž₯에 μ§„μž…ν•œ μ§€ 2년이 채 λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μ§€λ§Œ, μ˜¬ν•΄ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•œ 바와 같이 800만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ—μ„œ 1,000만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ˜ λ§€μΆœμ„ 달성할 μ˜ˆμ •μ΄λ©°, 맀우 순쑰둭게 μ„±μž₯ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 포트폴리였λ₯Ό λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ™Έκ³Όμ˜μ‚¬μ™€ ν™˜μž λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ μ›ν•˜λŠ” 곳을 선택할 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ ν•˜λŠ” μ œν’ˆ μŠ€νŽ™νŠΈλŸΌμ„ κ°–μΆ”λŠ” 것이 μ˜¬λ°”λ₯Έ μ „λž΅μ΄λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: 그리고 λ§ˆμ§„ λ…Όμ˜λ₯Ό μ΄μ–΄κ°€μžλ©΄, μ—°λ§κΉŒμ§€ EBITDA ν‘μž μ „ν™˜κ³Ό ν˜„κΈˆνλ¦„ ν‘μž λ‹¬μ„±μ΄λΌλŠ” λͺ©ν‘œμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ…¨λŠ”λ°μš”. μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λͺ©ν‘œμ— λŒ€ν•œ ν™•μ‹ κ³Ό μ˜¬ν•΄ μˆ˜μ΅μ„±μ„ κ²¬μΈν•˜λŠ” μš”μΈλ“€, 그리고 이λ₯Ό 달성할 수 μžˆλŠ” λŠ₯λ ₯에 λŒ€ν•΄ λ‹€μ‹œ ν•œλ²ˆ μ„€λͺ…ν•΄ μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?

λ°œν‘œμž 3: λ„€, 확신에 λŒ€ν•œ 질문과 κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œλŠ”, μ €ν¬λŠ” 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
It's also it's become I think for us as a company, these are goals which are as important as achieving our revenue targets and other things, right? So it's become really part of what we're really organizing around is delivering on these profitability metrics we've put out. If you think about what drives it for us this year, it's really it's a couple of things, right? Speaker 3: It's The U. S, right? The U. S. Revenue is increasing very rapidly. Speaker 3: We've talked about meaningfully exceeding the $35,000,000 number we've given for this year. The margin structure in The U. S. Is significantly higher than outside The U. S.이것은 λ˜ν•œ 우리 νšŒμ‚¬μ—κ²Œ μžˆμ–΄μ„œ, μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λͺ©ν‘œλ“€μ΄ 맀좜 λͺ©ν‘œ λ‹¬μ„±μ΄λ‚˜ λ‹€λ₯Έ κ²ƒλ“€λ§ŒνΌμ΄λ‚˜ μ€‘μš”ν•΄μ‘Œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 맞죠? λ”°λΌμ„œ μ΄λŠ” μ •λ§λ‘œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ œμ‹œν•œ μˆ˜μ΅μ„± μ§€ν‘œλ“€μ„ λ‹¬μ„±ν•˜λŠ” 것을 μ€‘μ‹¬μœΌλ‘œ 쑰직을 μš΄μ˜ν•˜λŠ” 핡심 μš”μ†Œκ°€ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ˜¬ν•΄ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ 이λ₯Ό κ²¬μΈν•˜λŠ” μš”μΈλ“€μ„ 생각해보면, μ‹€μ œλ‘œ λͺ‡ κ°€μ§€κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 맞죠?

ν™”μž 3: λ°”λ‘œ λ―Έκ΅­μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 맞죠? λ―Έκ΅­ 맀좜이 맀우 λΉ λ₯΄κ²Œ μ¦κ°€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 3: μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ˜¬ν•΄ μ œμ‹œν•œ 3,500만 λ‹¬λŸ¬λΌλŠ” 수치λ₯Ό 의미 있게 μ΄ˆκ³Όν•  것이라고 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° λ°” μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 미ꡭ의 λ§ˆμ§„ κ΅¬μ‘°λŠ” λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ 지역보닀 μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ λ†’μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 3: We've talked about the realized pricing for us on a blended basis in The U. S. Being more than 2x what it is on a blended basis outside The United States, where we're in a lot of distributor markets. So we're realizing much higher prices in The United States. And the cost of making those products is essentially the same. Speaker 3: Comes out of the same facility we have in Costa Rica, and there's not a lot of differential in that cost of goods. And so that significant gross margin increase is then married with an operating expense base that we've talked about being relatively static over the course of the year.λ°œν‘œμž 3: 저희가 λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ λΈ”λ Œλ””λ“œ κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œ μ‹€ν˜„ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 가격이 λ―Έκ΅­ μ™Έ μ§€μ—­, 즉 저희가 λ§Žμ€ μœ ν†΅μ—…μ²΄ μ‹œμž₯에 μ§„μΆœν•΄ μžˆλŠ” μ§€μ—­μ˜ λΈ”λ Œλ””λ“œ κΈ°μ€€ 가격보닀 2λ°° 이상 λ†’λ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° λ°” μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ €ν¬λŠ” λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ 훨씬 높은 가격을 μ‹€ν˜„ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μ œν’ˆλ“€μ˜ 제쑰 λΉ„μš©μ€ 본질적으둜 λ™μΌν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: μ½”μŠ€νƒ€λ¦¬μΉ΄μ— μžˆλŠ” λ™μΌν•œ μ‹œμ„€μ—μ„œ μƒμ‚°λ˜λ©°, ν•΄λ‹Ή μ œν’ˆμ›κ°€μ—λŠ” 큰 차이가 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μƒλ‹Ήν•œ 총이읡λ₯  μ¦κ°€λŠ” 연쀑 μƒλŒ€μ μœΌλ‘œ 정적인 μˆ˜μ€€μ„ μœ μ§€ν•œλ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° μš΄μ˜λΉ„μš© 기반과 κ²°ν•©λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
We made the heavy investments in the fourth quarter of last year in the first quarter of standing up The U. S. Operations. Speaker 3: So we have the 40 plus salespeople. We have our office in Austin. We have the back office function, sales management team. There will be some incremental increase as the business scales in terms of shipping and other types of variable costs, but not significantly. And so as the revenue increases, your operating expenses are relatively stable. Speaker 3: That's what drives us towards that EBITDA profitability in the second half of this year, and we remain very confident in our ability to hit that.μž‘λ…„ 4뢄기와 μ˜¬ν•΄ 1뢄기에 λ―Έκ΅­ 사업 운영 ꡬ좕을 μœ„ν•΄ λŒ€κ·œλͺ¨ 투자λ₯Ό λ‹¨ν–‰ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: ν˜„μž¬ 40λͺ… μ΄μƒμ˜ μ˜μ—… 인λ ₯을 λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  있으며, μ˜€μŠ€ν‹΄μ— μ‚¬λ¬΄μ†Œλ₯Ό 두고 있고, λ°±μ˜€ν”ΌμŠ€ κΈ°λŠ₯κ³Ό μ˜μ—… κ΄€λ¦¬νŒ€μ„ κ°–μΆ”κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 사업 규λͺ¨κ°€ ν™•μž₯됨에 따라 배솑비 및 기타 변동비 μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ 일뢀 점진적인 증가가 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμ΄μ§€λ§Œ, ν¬μ§€λŠ” μ•Šμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 맀좜이 μ¦κ°€ν•˜λŠ” λ™μ•ˆ μš΄μ˜λΉ„μš©μ€ μƒλŒ€μ μœΌλ‘œ μ•ˆμ •μ μœΌλ‘œ μœ μ§€λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: 이것이 λ°”λ‘œ μ˜¬ν•΄ ν•˜λ°˜κΈ° EBITDA μˆ˜μ΅μ„± 달성을 κ²¬μΈν•˜λŠ” μš”μΈμ΄λ©°, μ €ν¬λŠ” 이λ₯Ό 달성할 수 μžˆλŠ” λŠ₯λ ₯에 λŒ€ν•΄ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And then if you look at below that, the big expense items for us are really the interest on the debt we have and then what happens with working capital and CapEx, which are generally stable. And so as the revenue continues to grow into next year and we're leveraging those other two major expense lines, we see a pretty line a pretty good line of sight to cash flow breakeven at some point next year as well. Speaker 2: Yes.그리고 κ·Έ μ•„λž˜λ₯Ό λ³΄μ‹œλ©΄, μ €ν¬μ˜ μ£Όμš” λΉ„μš© ν•­λͺ©λ“€μ€ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 보유 뢀채에 λŒ€ν•œ μ΄μžλΉ„μš©κ³Ό μš΄μ „μžλ³Έ 및 μžλ³Έμ§€μΆœμ—μ„œ λ°œμƒν•˜λŠ” λΉ„μš©λ“€μΈλ°, 이듀은 일반적으둜 μ•ˆμ •μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ 내년에도 맀좜이 μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ μ„±μž₯ν•˜κ³  저희가 이 두 κ°€μ§€ μ£Όμš” λΉ„μš© 라인을 λ ˆλ²„λ¦¬μ§€ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜λ©΄μ„œ, λ‚΄λ…„ 쀑 μ–΄λŠ μ‹œμ μ—μ„œ ν˜„κΈˆνλ¦„ 손읡뢄기점에 도달할 수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμ΄λΌλŠ” μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ λͺ…ν™•ν•œ 전망을 κ°€μ§€κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ„€.
Mean the one thing I would add to that, what Raj said, I mean, think there's been a lot of great work done over the last twelve to eighteen months in terms of really

rightsizing the business, rightsizing the corporate infrastructure, and just instilling a very strong discipline around financial management, operational discipline to really create a lot
more efficiency in terms of how we operate. And I think we're starting to see the benefits of that this year. And we're going to continue to look at ways how can we, as you scale a business, you have to operate very differently than you do when it's a small company. And I think we're instilling that discipline in the organization.
라지가 λ§ν•œ 것에 λ§λΆ™μ΄μžλ©΄, μ§€λ‚œ 12κ°œμ›”μ—μ„œ 18κ°œμ›” λ™μ•ˆ 사업 규λͺ¨λ₯Ό μ μ •ν™”ν•˜κ³ , κΈ°μ—… 인프라λ₯Ό μ μ •ν™”ν•˜λ©°, 재무 관리와 운영 κ·œμœ¨μ— λŒ€ν•œ 맀우 κ°•λ ₯ν•œ 원칙을 ν™•λ¦½ν•˜μ—¬ 운영 λ°©μ‹μ˜ νš¨μœ¨μ„±μ„ 크게 λ†’μ΄λŠ” 데 μžˆμ–΄ 정말 ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ μ„±κ³Όλ₯Ό κ±°λ‘μ—ˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μ˜¬ν•΄ λ“€μ–΄ κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ λ…Έλ ₯의 μ„±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보기 μ‹œμž‘ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ•žμœΌλ‘œλ„ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 방법을 λͺ¨μƒ‰ν•΄ λ‚˜κ°ˆ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 사업을 ν™•μž₯ν•  λ•ŒλŠ” μ†Œκ·œλͺ¨ νšŒμ‚¬μΌ λ•Œμ™€λŠ” 맀우 λ‹€λ₯΄κ²Œ μš΄μ˜ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 쑰직에 κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ κ·œμœ¨μ„ ν™•λ¦½ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
Speaker 2: We're seeing those benefits. And you know, as Raj mentioned, we built out a structure in The U. S. That was quite expensive. We have top talent and putting together the best infrastructure, while at the same time you know, reducing a lot of expenses. Speaker 2: So it really didn't have a material impact. And I think as we continue to grow from a revenue standpoint, higher margin products as well as higher margin markets, I think that's what's really driving that mix.ν™”μž 2: μ €ν¬λŠ” κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ ν˜œνƒλ“€μ„ 보고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 Rajκ°€ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ λΉ„μš©μ΄ 많이 λ“œλŠ” ꡬ쑰λ₯Ό κ΅¬μΆ•ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €ν¬λŠ” 졜고의 인재λ₯Ό λ³΄μœ ν•˜κ³  있으며 μ΅œμƒμ˜ 인프라λ₯Ό κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜λŠ” λ™μ‹œμ—, λ§Žμ€ λΉ„μš©μ„ μ ˆκ°ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

ν™”μž 2: λ”°λΌμ„œ μ‹€μ§ˆμ μœΌλ‘œ μ€‘λŒ€ν•œ 영ν–₯은 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 저희가 맀좜 κ΄€μ μ—μ„œ μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ μ„±μž₯ν•˜λ©΄μ„œ, 더 높은 λ§ˆμ§„μ˜ μ œν’ˆλ“€κ³Ό 더 높은 λ§ˆμ§„μ˜ μ‹œμž₯듀이 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ 믹슀λ₯Ό κ²¬μΈν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
So I think it's, as Raj said, mean, it's really a combination both of revenue driven in higher profitable higher gross margin markets and products as well as how we're being very disciplined in how we manage our expenses. Speaker 1: And you referenced this, that mixed flywheel should stay kind of in your favor for a long time here with The U. S. And EMEA and all these things that are coming. I know you haven't really committed to this on an annual basis, but could you talk about kind of the quantum of margin expansion that we could expect year in and year out?λ”°λΌμ„œ 라지가 λ§ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μ΄λŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 더 높은 μˆ˜μ΅μ„±κ³Ό 더 높은 μ΄λ§ˆμ§„μ„ κ°€μ§„ μ‹œμž₯κ³Ό μ œν’ˆμ—μ„œμ˜ 맀좜 증가와 λΉ„μš© 관리에 λŒ€ν•œ 우리의 μ—„κ²©ν•œ μ ‘κ·Ό 방식이 κ²°ν•©λœ 결과라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: 그리고 당신이 μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•œ 바와 같이, μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 믹슀 ν”ŒλΌμ΄νœ μ€ λ―Έκ΅­κ³Ό EMEA 그리고 μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λ‹€κ°€μ˜¬ λͺ¨λ“  것듀과 ν•¨κ»˜ μ˜€λž«λ™μ•ˆ λ‹Ήμ‹ λ“€μ—κ²Œ μœ λ¦¬ν•˜κ²Œ μž‘μš©ν•  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ λ³΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ—°κ°„ κΈ°μ€€μœΌλ‘œλŠ” 아직 ν™•μ •μ μœΌλ‘œ μ•½μ†ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμœΌμ‹  κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆμ§€λ§Œ, λ§€λ…„ κΈ°λŒ€ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” λ§ˆμ§„ ν™•λŒ€μ˜ 규λͺ¨μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?
And you're still a growing company, so how do you balance the desire to deliver leverage and earnings growth with investments that you want to make to continue to grow the top line? Speaker 3: Well, so this year, have committed to two two hundred to 300 basis points of gross margin expansion, right? And again, we feel very comfortable with that outlook. We saw a nice margin expansion even in the first quarter. And as The U. S. Speaker 3: Continues to build over the course of the year, that's what's going to drive that number higher. We haven't given much beyond that. But as you noted, you look at what is coming in terms of Preserve, MIA, Recon, continue to grow in The U.그리고 μ—¬μ „νžˆ μ„±μž₯ν•˜λŠ” νšŒμ‚¬μ΄μ‹ λ°, λ ˆλ²„λ¦¬μ§€μ™€ 수읡 μ„±μž₯을 λ‹¬μ„±ν•˜κ³ μž ν•˜λŠ” μš•κ΅¬μ™€ 졜고맀좜 μ„±μž₯을 μ§€μ†ν•˜κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ νˆ¬μžν•˜κ³ μž ν•˜λŠ” λΆ€λΆ„ μ‚¬μ΄μ˜ κ· ν˜•μ„ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ§žμΆ”κ³  κ³„μ‹ κ°€μš”?

ν™”μž 3: 음, μ˜¬ν•΄ μ €ν¬λŠ” μ΄λ§ˆμ§„μ„ 200~300bp ν™•λŒ€ν•˜κ² λ‹€κ³  μ•½μ†ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 λ‹€μ‹œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬μ§€λ§Œ, μ €ν¬λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 전망에 λŒ€ν•΄ 맀우 ν™•μ‹ ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 1뢄기에도 μ–‘ν˜Έν•œ λ§ˆμ§„ ν™•λŒ€λ₯Ό λ³΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그리고 미ꡭ이 연쀑 κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ μ„±μž₯ν•΄ λ‚˜κ°€λ©΄μ„œ, 그것이 λ°”λ‘œ κ·Έ 수치λ₯Ό 더 높이 λŒμ–΄μ˜¬λ¦΄ 동λ ₯이 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έ 이상에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” λ§Žμ€ κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€λ₯Ό μ œμ‹œν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ§μ”€ν•˜μ‹  바와 같이, Preserve, MIA, Recon μΈ‘λ©΄μ—μ„œ μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λ‹€κ°€μ˜¬ 것듀을 보면, λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ μ§€μ†μ μœΌλ‘œ μ„±μž₯ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
S, these are all margin accretive endeavors for us, right? And so there should be a continued tailwind to our gross margin over the next several years. Speaker 1: Raj, maybe talk about balancing that with growth. Speaker 3: Yes. So I think the balance there is, as Peter noted and I tried to highlight as well, I mean, achieving these profitability targets for us are kind of nonnegotiable in a way, right? I mean, we will get to be EBITDA positive this year and we'll achieve cash flow breakeven next year. These are things that are as important to us as driving the top line.μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λͺ¨λ“  사업듀은 μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ λ§ˆμ§„ μ¦λŒ€ 효과λ₯Ό κ°€μ Έλ‹€μ£ΌλŠ” μ‚¬μ—…λ“€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ”°λΌμ„œ ν–₯ν›„ λͺ‡ λ…„κ°„ 우리의 맀좜총이읡λ₯ μ— 지속적인 μˆœν’μ΄ 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: Raj, 그것을 μ„±μž₯κ³Ό κ· ν˜• λ§žμΆ”λŠ” 것에 λŒ€ν•΄ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?

λ°œν‘œμž 3: λ„€. κ·Έ κ· ν˜•μ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ”, Peterκ°€ μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆκ³  μ œκ°€ κ°•μ‘°ν•˜λ €κ³  ν–ˆλ˜ 바와 같이, μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μˆ˜μ΅μ„± λͺ©ν‘œ 달성은 μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ μ–΄λ–€ λ©΄μ—μ„œλŠ” ν˜‘μƒ λΆˆκ°€λŠ₯ν•œ μ‚¬μ•ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 즉, μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ˜¬ν•΄ EBITDA ν‘μžλ₯Ό 달성할 것이고 λ‚΄λ…„μ—λŠ” ν˜„κΈˆνλ¦„ 손읡뢄기점을 달성할 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 것듀은 맀좜 μ„±μž₯을 μΆ”μ§„ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒλ§ŒνΌμ΄λ‚˜ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ μ€‘μš”ν•œ μ‚¬μ•ˆλ“€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And so we honestly hope to be in a position where we have to make those kind of decisions as to what we want to invest and where we want to let to flow through, but we need to cross those lines first. Speaker 3: Those are really kind of hard targets for us and we expect to achieve them. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, Matt, it's all about choices when you're running the business. I think, you know, to use an example when you asked regarding China, I mean, we could have gone direct and there's a lot of resources tied to that, but these are choices you make to kind of say, all right, you have limited resources, where are you going to effectively allocate that?κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ†”μ§νžˆ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” 어디에 νˆ¬μžν• μ§€, μ–΄λ””λ‘œ μžκΈˆμ„ ν˜λ €λ³΄λ‚Όμ§€μ— λŒ€ν•œ 그런 μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 결정을 λ‚΄λ €μ•Ό ν•˜λŠ” μœ„μΉ˜μ— 있기λ₯Ό ν¬λ§ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ¨Όμ € κ·Έ 기쀀선듀을 λ„˜μ–΄μ„œμ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 3: 이것듀은 μ €ν¬μ—κ²Œ μ •λ§λ‘œ ν™•κ³ ν•œ λͺ©ν‘œλ“€μ΄λ©°, μ €ν¬λŠ” 이λ₯Ό 달성할 κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ κΈ°λŒ€ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: λ„€, λ§·, 사업을 μš΄μ˜ν•  λ•ŒλŠ” λͺ¨λ“  것이 μ„ νƒμ˜ 문제라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 쀑ꡭ에 κ΄€ν•΄ μ§ˆλ¬Έν•˜μ‹  것을 예둜 λ“€λ©΄, μ €ν¬λŠ” 직접 μ§„μΆœν•  μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμ—ˆκ³  κ·Έμ—λŠ” λ§Žμ€ μžμ›μ΄ νˆ¬μž…λ˜μ–΄μ•Ό ν–ˆκ² μ§€λ§Œ, 이런 것듀은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ λ‚΄λ¦¬λŠ” μ„ νƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 즉, ν•œμ •λœ μžμ›μ„ κ°€μ§€κ³  μžˆμ„ λ•Œ 어디에 효과적으둜 λ°°λΆ„ν•  것인가 ν•˜λŠ” 선택 λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
And where can you benefit from that, you know, make a different decision later on? So I think that I don't think there's been any situation that we've actually reduced investment and something
that we believe is a key priority to drive the business. And that's why I think we've been very selective in terms of how we do manage our expenses. Speaker 2: And it really, as I said before, it really boils down to choices, but you have to make those choices. Speaker 1: Very good. Well, I think that's our time. But gentlemen, thanks so much for your time and thanks everybody for your interest in Establishment Thank you.
그리고 그런 μƒν™©μ—μ„œ μ–΄λ–€ ν˜œνƒμ„ 얻을 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€, λ‚˜μ€‘μ— λ‹€λ₯Έ 결정을 내릴 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ 말이죠. λ”°λΌμ„œ μ €λŠ” 사업을 μΆ”μ§„ν•˜λŠ” 핡심 μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” λΆ„μ•Όμ—μ„œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 투자λ₯Ό 쀄인 상황은 μ—†μ—ˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λΉ„μš© 관리 방식에 μžˆμ–΄μ„œ 맀우 μ„ λ³„μ μœΌλ‘œ μ ‘κ·Όν•΄μ™”λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 2: 그리고 μ•žμ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 바와 같이, μ΄λŠ” μ •λ§λ‘œ μ„ νƒμ˜ 문제둜 κ·€κ²°λ˜μ§€λ§Œ, 그런 선택을 ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ°œν‘œμž 1: μ•„μ£Ό μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹œκ°„μ΄ λ‹€ 된 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 두 λΆ„κ»˜μ„œ μ‹œκ°„μ„ λ‚΄μ£Όμ…”μ„œ κ°μ‚¬ν•˜κ³ , Establishment에 관심을 κ°€μ Έμ£Όμ‹  λͺ¨λ“  λΆ„λ“€κ»˜ κ°μ‚¬λ“œλ¦½λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

πŸ“Œ μš”μ•½

Here's a Korean summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript:

β€’ 싀적 및 κ°€μ΄λ“œλΌμΈ
- 2025λ…„ 맀좜 κ°€μ΄λ“œλΌμΈ $205-210M (μ „λ…„ λŒ€λΉ„ μ•½ 25% μ„±μž₯)
- λ―Έκ΅­ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œμ˜ κ°•ν•œ μ„±κ³Όλ‘œ κ°€μ΄λ“œλΌμΈ 상ν–₯ κ°€λŠ₯μ„± μ‹œμ‚¬
- 2025λ…„ λ§κΉŒμ§€ EBITDA ν‘μžμ „ν™˜, 2026λ…„ 쀑 ν˜„κΈˆνλ¦„ ν‘μž 달성 λͺ©ν‘œ

β€’ λ―Έκ΅­ μ‹œμž₯ μ§„μΆœ ν˜„ν™©
- 900개 μ΄μƒμ˜ 거래처 확보, μ›” 평균 100개 μ‹ κ·œ 거래처 μΆ”κ°€ 쀑
- κ²½μŸμ‚¬ λŒ€λΉ„ 프리미엄 가격 책정에도 μ‹œμž₯ 점유율 ν™•λŒ€
- 업계 졜고 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ μ˜μ—…μ‘°μ§ κ΅¬μΆ•μœΌλ‘œ μ‹œμž₯ 침투 가속화

β€’ μ œν’ˆ 포트폴리였 및 νŒŒμ΄ν”„λΌμΈ
- Mia와 Preservae λ“± μ΅œμ†Œ 침슡 μ œν’ˆκ΅°μ΄ μ‹œμž₯ ν™•λŒ€ 견인
- ν–₯ν›„ 2-3λ…„κ°„ 재건용 μž„ν”Œλž€νŠΈ, Ergo 2 λ“± μ£Όμš” μ‹ μ œν’ˆ μΆœμ‹œ μ˜ˆμ •
- 높은 μ•ˆμ „μ„±κ³Ό ν˜μ‹ μ  기술λ ₯이 핡심 경쟁λ ₯으둜 μž‘μš©

β€’ 리슀크 μš”μΈ
- κ±°μ‹œκ²½μ œ λΆˆν™•μ‹€μ„±μ— λ”°λ₯Έ μ†ŒλΉ„μž μ§€μΆœ κ°μ†Œ κ°€λŠ₯μ„±
- 쀑ꡭ, 브라질 λ“± 일뢀 μ‹ ν₯μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œμ˜ μ„±μž₯ μ§€μ—°
- κ²½μŸμ‚¬λ“€μ˜ 가격 μΈν•˜ μ••λ°• κ°€λŠ₯μ„±


❓ Q&A

Original Translation
Question-and-Answer Sessionμ§ˆμ˜μ‘λ‹΅ μ‹œκ°„

πŸ“Œ μš”μ•½

I don't see any transcript provided to analyze. Please share the earnings call transcript you'd like me to summarize, and I'll provide 3-5 key bullet points in Korean focusing on:

- μ£Όμš” 재무 μ§€ν‘œ
- κ°€μ΄λ˜μŠ€ μ—…λ°μ΄νŠΈ
- κ²½μ˜μ§„μ˜ 톀
- 잠재적 λ¦¬μŠ€ν¬μ™€ 강점