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| Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. Jefferies Global Healthcare Conference 2025 June 4, 2025 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us here for our first session in the med tech track. I'm Matt Taylor, the US medical supplies and devices analyst here at Jefferies. And I'm joined by the management team on my left here for Establishment Labs. So we have Pete Caldini, who's the CEO, and Raj Denhoy, the CFO. Speaker 1: And we'll have about a half hour for moderated q and a. So I always like to start high level, especially for these conferences, there could be folks who are newer to the story. | μμ€νλΈλ¦¬μλ¨ΌνΈ λ©μ€ νλ©μ€(Establishment Labs Holdings Inc.) μ νλ¦¬μ€ κΈλ‘λ² ν¬μ€μΌμ΄ 컨νΌλ°μ€ 2025 2025λ
6μ 4μΌ λ°νμ 1: μλ νμΈμ, μ¬λ¬λΆ. λ©λν ν¬ νΈλμ 첫 λ²μ§Έ μΈμ μ μ°Έμν΄ μ£Όμ μ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μ λ μ ν리μ€μ λ―Έκ΅ μλ£μ©ν λ° κΈ°κΈ° μ λ리μ€νΈμΈ λ§€νΈ ν μΌλ¬μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ μΌμͺ½μλ μμ€νλΈλ¦¬μλ¨ΌνΈ λ©μ€μ κ²½μμ§μ΄ ν¨κ»νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. CEOμΈ νΌνΈ μΉΌλλμ CFOμΈ λΌμ§ λ΄νΈμ΄κ° μ°Έμνμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 1: μ½ 30λΆκ° μ¬νμ μ£Όλμ μ§μμλ΅ μκ°μ κ°μ§ μμ μ λλ€. μ λ νμ λμ μμ€μμ μμνλ κ²μ μ’μνλλ°, νΉν μ΄λ° 컨νΌλ°μ€μμλ μ΄ νμ¬μ μ€ν 리λ₯Ό μ²μ μ νλ λΆλ€μ΄ μμ μ μκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. |
| So maybe you could just start with a little bit of an overview of your portfolio, talk about how your products are differentiated, and maybe give us a look at the pipeline and some of the stuff you're excited about coming down the pipe. Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you, Matt. It's pleasure to be here. Know, regarding your question, I think you know the broad portfolio that we have on global basis, know, I think what's really driven our success outside The U. S. Speaker 2: And what I think is going to be a key driver for our success in The U. S. Is that we have a portfolio of differentiated products that are really unmatched in the industry. | κ·ΈλΌ λ¨Όμ κ·νμ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ λν κ°μλΆν° μμν΄μ, μ νλ€μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ°¨λ³νλμ΄ μλμ§ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ³ , νμ΄νλΌμΈκ³Ό μμΌλ‘ μΆμλ μμ μΈ κ²λ€ μ€μμ κΈ°λνκ³ κ³μ λΆλΆλ€μ λν΄μλ μ΄ν΄λ³Ό μ μμκΉμ? νμ 2: λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Matt. μ΄ μ리μ μ°Έμνκ² λμ΄ κΈ°μ©λλ€. κ·νμ μ§λ¬Έκ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ, μ ν¬κ° κΈλ‘λ² κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ 보μ νκ³ μλ κ΄λ²μν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ λν΄ λ§μλ리면, λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμ μ ν¬μ μ±κ³΅μ μ΄λμ΄μ¨ μμΈμ΄μ λ―Έκ΅μμλ μ ν¬ μ±κ³΅μ ν΅μ¬ λλ ₯μ΄ λ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°νλ κ²μ, μ ν¬κ° μ κ³μμ μ λ§ νμ μΆμ’ μ λΆννλ μ°¨λ³νλ μ ν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μλ€λ μ μ λλ€. |
| We have the safest products that's really supported with clinical data in The U. S. Speaker 2: We have our five year data from the FDA study that supports that. It's a far superior safety profile than what's in the market. And also we're the real leaders in innovation in the industry. And so what we've been able to develop really outside The U. S. Speaker 2: Is a wide spectrum of products from our round product to Ergo to Ergo two to our minimally invasive platform that contains Prezervae as well as our premium product Mia. So each one of the products creates value and differentiation at different price points. | λ―Έκ΅μμ μμ λ°μ΄ν°λ‘ λ·λ°μΉ¨λλ κ°μ₯ μμ ν μ νλ€μ 보μ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: FDA μ°κ΅¬μμ λμ¨ 5λ κ°μ λ°μ΄ν°κ° μ΄λ₯Ό λ·λ°μΉ¨νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ νμ¬ μμ₯μ λμ μλ μ νλ€λ³΄λ€ ν¨μ¬ μ°μν μμ μ± νλ‘νμΌμ 보μ¬μ€λλ€. λν μ ν¬λ μ κ³μμ νμ μ μ§μ ν 리λμ λλ€. κ·Έλμ μ ν¬κ° λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμμ κ°λ°ν μ μμλ κ²μ νμ 2: λΌμ΄λ μ νλΆν° Ergo, Ergo 2, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Prezervaeλ₯Ό ν¬ν¨ν μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌκ³Ό ν리미μ μ νμΈ MiaκΉμ§ κ΄λ²μν μ ν μ€ννΈλΌμ λλ€. κ°κ°μ μ νλ€μ μλ‘ λ€λ₯Έ κ°κ²©λμμ κ°μΉμ μ°¨λ³νλ₯Ό μ°½μΆν©λλ€. |
| But they're all really founded and really built on superior performance and superior safety. And so in The U. S. Speaker 2: Where we are today, it's really the early stages. We have around an Ergo one product in the market. But over the next two to three years, we're expecting to launch really a super cycle of innovation. We're going to have the recon indication. We're also going to be launching Preservae. Speaker 2: It's part of the minimally invasive platform. And then a little bit further out, once we do the PMA supplement for Ergo two, we'll be able to launch Mia. | νμ§λ§ μ΄ λͺ¨λ μ νλ€μ μ λ§λ‘ λ°μ΄λ μ±λ₯κ³Ό μ°μν μμ μ±μ κΈ°λ°μΌλ‘ μ€λ¦½λκ³ κ΅¬μΆλμμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ λ―Έκ΅μμ νμ 2: νμ¬ μ°λ¦¬κ° μλ μμΉλ μ λ§ μ΄κΈ° λ¨κ³μ λλ€. μμ₯μ Ergo one μ ν νλ μ λλ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ ν₯ν 2~3λ μ κ±Έμ³ μ λ§λ‘ νμ μ μνΌμ¬μ΄ν΄μ μΆμν κ²μΌλ‘ μμνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. recon μ μμ¦μ ν보ν μμ μ λλ€. λν μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌμ μΌλΆμΈ Preservaeλ μΆμν μμ μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ‘°κΈ λ λμ€μ Ergo twoμ λν PMA 보μμ μλ£νλ©΄ Miaλ₯Ό μΆμν μ μμ κ²μ λλ€. |
| And so all this will be in the next two to three years, which is going to enable us to build a very strong business in The U. S. We have already a best in class organization and we're seeing a lot of success in the market. Speaker 2: So it's really going to kind of build out that portfolio. Speaker 1: Fantastic. So maybe we could start again high level on the market a little bit and talk about some of the key trends there. There's been a lot of investors talking about macro pressures and how that could impact consumer discretionary purchases. | μ΄ λͺ¨λ κ²μ΄ ν₯ν 2-3λ
λ΄μ μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§ μμ μ΄λ©°, μ΄λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ λ―Έκ΅μμ λ§€μ° κ°λ ₯ν μ¬μ
μ ꡬμΆν μ μμ κ²μ
λλ€. μ ν¬λ μ΄λ―Έ μ
κ³ μ΅κ³ μμ€μ μ‘°μ§μ 보μ νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μμ₯μμ λ§μ μ±κ³΅μ κ±°λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 2: λ°λΌμ μ€μ λ‘ ν΄λΉ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€λ₯Ό ꡬμΆν΄ λκ°λ κ²μ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. λ°νμ 1: νλ₯ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ λ€λ©΄ μμ₯μ λν΄ λ€μ νλ² λμ μ°¨μμμ μμν΄μ μ£Όμ νΈλ λλ€μ λν΄ μ΄μΌκΈ°ν΄λ³ΌκΉμ. λ§μ ν¬μμλ€μ΄ κ±°μκ²½μ μ μλ°κ³Ό μ΄κ²μ΄ μλΉμ μ¬λμ§μΆμ μ΄λ€ μν₯μ λ―ΈμΉ μ μλμ§μ λν΄ λ Όμν΄μμ΅λλ€. |
| And I would love to just get some insight into how the market's been growing, how you're doing within it, and what you think the outlook is for the Speaker 2: Yes. So I think that's a fair point in terms of the OUS market. In general, in what we've seen, it's been pretty stable. But obviously there's a lot of uncertainty around the macroeconomic situation, especially with the tariff discussions. But as I said before, you know, we haven't seen a real impact in terms of the level of procedures. Speaker 2: Obviously, I think this is more of a lagging indicator. It's something that we're staying very close to. | ν΄μΈ μμ₯μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ±μ₯νκ³ μλμ§, κ·Έ μμ₯μμ μ ν¬κ° μ΄λ€ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό λ΄κ³ μλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ λ§μ λν΄ μ΄λ»κ² μκ°νμλμ§μ λν ν΅μ°°μ λ£κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ€, ν΄μΈ μμ₯μ λν΄μλ νλΉν μ§μ μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ λ°μ μΌλ‘ μ ν¬κ° κ΄μ°°ν λ°λ‘λ μμ₯μ΄ κ½€ μμ μ μ΄μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ λΆλͺ ν κ±°μκ²½μ μν©, νΉν κ΄μΈ λ Όμμ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μλ λ§μ λΆνμ€μ±μ΄ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¬λ μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μμ 건μ μΈ‘λ©΄μμλ μ€μ§μ μΈ μν₯μ μμ§ λ³΄μ§ λͺ»νμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ¬Όλ‘ μ΄λ ννμ§νμ μΈ μ±κ²©μ΄ λ κ°νλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ ν¬κ° λ§€μ° λ©΄λ°ν λͺ¨λν°λ§νκ³ μλ λΆλΆμ λλ€. |
| And also put ourselves in a position to course correct when we do see changes in the different markets. I would say that so far we haven't seen any material impact to that. But obviously we're very close to it. Speaker 2: You look at the different regions, I would say Asia Pac for us is stable and we're seeing pockets of growth. And then we highlighted in the earnings call, China is a market that we had a pipeline fill the last year and we're not looking to get any sell in for the first half, so probably in the back half of the year. And then in Europe, I think it's a stable market. We see areas where we're having good growth and then we have some challenges. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ€μν μμ₯μμ λ³νλ₯Ό κ°μ§νμ λ λ°©ν₯μ μμ ν μ μλ μμΉμ μ°λ¦¬ μμ μ λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ§κΈκΉμ§λ κ·Έμ λν μ€λν μν₯μ λ³΄μ§ λͺ»νλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ λΆλͺ
ν μ°λ¦¬λ μ΄λ₯Ό λ§€μ° λ©΄λ°ν μ§μΌλ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ€μν μ§μμ μ΄ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, μμμ ννμ μ§μμ μμ μ μ΄λ©° λΆλΆμ μΌλ‘ μ±μ₯νλ μμλ€μ λ³΄κ³ μλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ€μ λ°νμμ κ°μ‘°νλ―μ΄, μ€κ΅μ μλ μ νμ΄νλΌμΈμ μ±μ λ μμ₯μ΄λ©°, μλ°κΈ°μλ μ΄λ€ λ§€μΆλ κΈ°λνμ§ μκ³ μμ΄μ μλ§λ νλ°κΈ°μλ κ°λ₯ν κ²μΌλ‘ 보μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ λ½μ κ²½μ°, μμ μ μΈ μμ₯μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ°λ¦¬κ° μ’μ μ±μ₯μ 보μ΄κ³ μλ μμλ€μ΄ μλ λ°λ©΄ μΌλΆ λμ κ³Όμ λ€λ μμ΅λλ€. |
| Very happy with our performance in The U. Speaker 2: K. And Spain, also in some of the distributor markets such as Poland and Russia. And so we're really gaining share in those markets. And what's really helping us drive the business where we're very confident in 2025 is we roll out the PRESERVAY minimally invasive products. There's very strong interest. Speaker 2: We started that rollout at beginning of this year and continues to have a lot of interest. And so that's going to help drive our business in Europe. And then for us, Latin America has been probably the biggest challenge over the last twelve to eighteen months, in particular when we talk about Brazil. | μκ΅κ³Ό μ€νμΈμμμ μ±κ³Όμ λ§€μ° λ§μ‘±νκ³ μμΌλ©°, ν΄λλμ λ¬μμ κ°μ μ ν΅μ
체 μμ₯μμλ μ’μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν μμ₯μμ μ€μ λ‘ μ μ μ¨μ νλνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ 2025λ
μ λν΄ λ§€μ° νμ νλ μ¬μ
μ±μ₯ λλ ₯μ PRESERVAY μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ μ νμ μΆμμ
λλ€. λ§€μ° κ°ν κ΄μ¬μ λ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: μ¬ν΄ μ΄λΆν° ν΄λΉ μ ν μΆμλ₯Ό μμνμΌλ©° μ§μμ μΌλ‘ λ§μ κ΄μ¬μ λ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ μ λ½μμ μ°λ¦¬ μ¬μ μ 견μΈνλ λ° λμμ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ ν¬μκ² λΌν΄μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄λ μ§λ 12κ°μμμ 18κ°μ λμ μλ§λ κ°μ₯ ν° λμ μ΄μμΌλ©°, νΉν λΈλΌμ§μ μΈκΈν λ κ·Έλ μ΅λλ€. |
| However, we have seen some stabilization in that market the end of last year. And I think with the we're also launching Preservay there. Speaker 2: So we're going to see some sequential growth, but I think that still continues to be a market and a region overall that's a little bit challenging from a macroeconomic standpoint. Speaker 1: Great. And as a reminder, you guided to mid single digit growth guide in 2025. Maybe you could talk a little bit about how that guidance was constructed and how confident you are in hitting the high and low end of the guide given the trends you saw in Q1? Speaker 3: Yes. | κ·Έλ¬λ μλ
λ§μ ν΄λΉ μμ₯μμ μ΄λ μ λ μμ νλ₯Ό 보μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ ν¬κ° κ·Έκ³³μμ Preservayλ μΆμνκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 2: λ°λΌμ μμ°¨μ μΈ μ±μ₯μ λ³΄κ² λ κ²μ΄μ§λ§, μ¬μ ν κ±°μκ²½μ μ κ΄μ μμ μ λ°μ μΌλ‘ λ€μ λμ μ μΈ μμ₯μ΄μ μ§μμ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 1: μ’μ΅λλ€. μ°Έκ³ λ‘ λ§μλ리면, 2025λ μ μ€κ° ν μλ¦Ώμ μ±μ₯ κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό μ μνμ ¨μ΅λλ€. ν΄λΉ κ°μ΄λμ€κ° μ΄λ»κ² ꡬμ±λμλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ 1λΆκΈ°μ 보μ νΈλ λλ₯Ό κ³ λ €ν λ κ°μ΄λμ€μ μνκ³Ό ννμ λ¬μ±νλ λ° μΌλ§λ νμ μ κ°κ³ κ³μ μ§ μ‘°κΈ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μμκΉμ? λ°νμ 3: λ€. |
| Think as Peter noted, we continue to be very vigilant to any changes in the underlying market conditions. But thus far, we really haven't seen anything meaningful at this point. And the overall guidance of $2.00 5,000,000 to $210,000,000 roughly 25% at the midpoint, we're still very confident in those numbers. And again, our philosophy around this is to be conservative and see how things play out over the course of the year. Speaker 3: But as we sit here today, we remain very comfortable with the outlook we've given. Speaker 1: Now, and part of that has been the strong performance in The U. S. And obviously, that's a big focus for investors. | νΌν°κ° μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬λ κΈ°μ μμ₯ μν©μ λ³νμ λν΄ κ³μν΄μ λ§€μ° μ£Όμ κΉκ² κ΄μ°°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ§κΈκΉμ§λ ν μμ μμ μλ―Έ μλ λ³νλ₯Ό μ€μ λ‘ λ³΄μ§ λͺ»νμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ€κ°κ° κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ μ½ 25%μ ν΄λΉνλ 2μ΅ 500λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 2μ΅ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ μ 체 κ°μ΄λμ€μ λν΄μλ μ¬μ ν λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ€μ λ§μλ리μ§λ§, μ΄μ λν μ ν¬μ μ² νμ 보μμ μΌλ‘ μ κ·Όνμ¬ μ°μ€ μν©μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ κ°λλμ§ μ§μΌλ³΄λ κ²μ
λλ€. λ°νμ 3: νμ§λ§ μ€λ νμ¬ μν©μμ μ ν¬κ° μ μν μ λ§μ λν΄ λ§€μ° νΈμνκ² μκ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 1: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έ μΌλΆλ λ―Έκ΅μμμ κ°λ ₯ν μ±κ³Ό λλΆμ΄μμ΅λλ€. λΆλͺ ν μ΄λ ν¬μμλ€μκ² ν° κ΄μ¬μ¬μ λλ€. |
| So you talked most recently about 900 accounts and it seems like you've been adding about 100 a month. So I was curious if you could talk a little bit about the ramp in The U. Speaker 1: S, how things are doing there. And you said on the last call that you're confident that you could get some upside to the guide, but it seems like you're still remaining conservative there. We'd love to get any more if you want to give us a new account disclosure, that would be great. Speaker 2: Yes. So we probably won't, okay? | μ΅κ·Όμ 900κ° κ³μ μ λν΄ λ§μνμ
¨λλ°, λ§€μ μ½ 100κ°μ© μΆκ°νκ³ κ³μ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ λ―Έκ΅μμμ λ¨νμ
(ramp-up)μ λν΄ μ’ λ μμΈν λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έκ³³μμ μν©μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ§νλκ³ μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. μ§λ 컨νΌλ°μ€ μ½μμ κ°μ΄λμ€ λλΉ μν₯ μ¬μ§κ° μλ€κ³ νμ νλ€κ³ λ§μνμ
¨λλ°, μ¬μ ν 보μμ μΈ μ
μ₯μ μ μ§νκ³ κ³μ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. λ μμΈν λ΄μ©μ μλ €μ£Όμλ©΄ μ’κ² κ³ , μλ‘μ΄ κ³μ 곡μλ₯Ό ν΄μ£Όμ λ€λ©΄ μ λ§ κ°μ¬νκ² μ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ€, μλ§ κ·Έλ κ² νμ§λ μμ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. |
| I think we gave a lot of details in terms of the performance, and we did that for really make a lot of the investors feel comfortable in terms of where we're tracking with the business in The U. S. But what I can say is we continue to be incredibly happy with the performance there. Speaker 2: It continues to exceed our expectations. We've added additional accounts. We've got onboarded additional accounts. They're ordering, increasing our average sales on a daily and weekly basis. But what we mentioned in the last earnings call, I mean, we're not going to continue to provide that information. | μ ν¬κ° μ€μ μ λν΄ λ§μ μΈλΆμ¬νμ μ 곡νλλ°, μ΄λ μ€μ λ‘ λ§μ ν¬μμλ€μ΄ λ―Έκ΅ μ¬μ
μμ μ ν¬κ° μ΄λ»κ² μ§νλκ³ μλμ§μ λν΄ μμ¬ν μ μλλ‘ νκΈ° μν΄μμμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ κ° λ§μλ릴 μ μλ κ²μ μ ν¬κ° κ·Έκ³³μμμ μ€μ μ λν΄ κ³μν΄μ λ§€μ° λ§μ‘±νκ³ μλ€λ κ²μ
λλ€. νμ 2: κ³μν΄μ μ ν¬ κΈ°λμΉλ₯Ό λ°μ΄λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΆκ° κ³μ λ€μ ν보νκ³ , μΆκ° κ³μ λ€μ μ¨λ³΄λ©νμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ€μ΄ μ£Όλ¬Έμ νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μΌμΌ λ° μ£Όκ° κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ μ ν¬ νκ· λ§€μΆμ μ¦κ°μν€κ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ§λ μ€μ λ°νμμ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬λ κ·Έλ¬ν μ 보λ₯Ό κ³μ μ 곡νμ§λ μμ μμ μ λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: I think, as I said before, that was something that we shared just to give people comfort in terms of the progress. But we continue to be very positive and bullish with our opportunity in The U. S. And as I mentioned before, I think we have a great product, but I think we're really coupling that with a tremendous organization. I think it's a best in class organization we have in The U. Speaker 2: S. And so we feel very confident with the guidance we've provided and then certainly exceeding that. | λ°νμ 2: μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ΄λ μ§μ μν©μ λν΄ μ¬λλ€μκ² μμ¬μ λ리기 μν΄ κ³΅μ ν λ΄μ©μ΄μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ ν¬λ λ―Έκ΅μμμ κΈ°νμ λν΄ κ³μν΄μ λ§€μ° κΈμ μ μ΄κ³ λκ΄μ μΈ μ μ₯μ μ μ§νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄μ μ μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬λ νλ₯ν μ νμ 보μ νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°νλ©°, μ΄λ₯Ό λ°μ΄λ μ‘°μ§κ³Ό κ²°ν©νκ³ μλ€κ³ λ΄ λλ€. λ―Έκ΅μμ 보μ ν μ‘°μ§μ μ κ³ μ΅κ³ μμ€μ μ‘°μ§μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ ν¬κ° μ μν κ°μ΄λμ€μ λν΄ λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ μμΌλ©°, λΆλͺ ν κ·Έ μμΉλ₯Ό μνν κ²μΌλ‘ κΈ°λνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| Speaker 1: I'd love to hear more about the organization because I have heard qualitatively that you've brought in a lot of really good salespeople and have been able to get talent from some of your competition. So we'd love for you to give some texture to that and maybe talk about the type of folks who are coming over, why they're attracted to this, and how much of a difference a good commercial organization like that can make? Speaker 2: Well, think so first off, as I said, I think we have a best in class organization that has a lot of experience in the industry. | **λ°νμ 1:** μ‘°μ§μ λν΄ λ μμΈν λ£κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ μ±μ μΌλ‘λ μ λ§ μ°μν μμ
μΈλ ₯λ€μ λ§μ΄ μμ
νμ
¨κ³ κ²½μμ¬λ€λ‘λΆν° μΈμ¬λ€μ ν보ν μ μμλ€κ³ λ€μκ±°λ μ. κ·Έλμ κ·Έ λΆλΆμ λν΄ μ’ λ ꡬ체μ μΌλ‘ μ€λͺ
ν΄ μ£Όμκ³ , μ΄λ€ μ νμ μΈμ¬λ€μ΄ ν©λ₯νκ³ μλμ§, μ κ·Έλ€μ΄ μ΄κ³³μ λ§€λ ₯μ λλΌλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έλ° μ°μν μμ
μ‘°μ§μ΄ μΌλ§λ ν° μ°¨μ΄λ₯Ό λ§λ€μ΄λΌ μ μλμ§μ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ μ’κ² μ΅λλ€. **λ°νμ 2:** λ€, μ°μ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ ν¬λ μ κ³μμ νλΆν κ²½νμ 보μ ν μ΅κ³ μμ€μ μ‘°μ§μ κ°μΆκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| And I think you know, when you look at the competitive set and the companies that they're coming from, it's not necessarily a priority to them. And I think that they saw Establishment Labs as a company that's dedicated, focused to the aesthetics space. And they saw this as a tremendous opportunity. And I think because of that, from Jeff Earhart and to the leadership team down, we've been able to attract some of the best talent in the industry. Speaker 2: And I think that obviously has a huge benefit. I think they have established relationships in the marketplace. They know what good looks like. I think that's critical for us. I mean, we're doing everything from the ground zero. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ²½μμ¬λ€κ³Ό κ·Έλ€μ΄ μΆμ νμ¬λ€μ μ΄ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, λ―Έμ© λΆμΌκ° λ°λμ κ·Έλ€μ μ°μ μμλ μλλΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ€μ Establishment Labsλ₯Ό λ―Έμ© λΆμΌμ μ λ
νκ³ μ§μ€νλ νμ¬λ‘ 보μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄λ₯Ό μμ²λ κΈ°νλ‘ μ¬κ²Όλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ κΈ° λλ¬Έμ Jeff EarhartλΆν° 리λμ νμ μ΄λ₯΄κΈ°κΉμ§, μ°λ¦¬λ μ
κ³ μ΅κ³ μ μΈμ¬λ€μ μ μΉν μ μμμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 2: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄κ²μ΄ λΆλͺ ν ν° μ΄μ΅μ κ°μ Έλ€μ€λ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ€μ μμ₯μμ κΈ°μ‘΄ κ΄κ³λ₯Ό ꡬμΆνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ€μ 무μμ΄ μ’μ κ²μΈμ§ μκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ μ°λ¦¬μκ² λ§€μ° μ€μνλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ°λ¦¬λ λͺ¨λ κ²μ μ²μλΆν° μμνκ³ μκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: And I think when you have a leadership team there that knows what good looks like, I think it's been very easy for us to assemble what we think is the best operating models in The U. S. So for us, I think that is one of the key drivers for our success. I mean, it's not only the products that we have and the safety profile, it's also the capabilities of the organization. Speaker 1: How would you compare how The U. S. Launch is going versus some of the other markets that you've launched in historically? Has it been easier to take share, harder to take share? Is it similar? Speaker 1: What's different or similar about The U. S. Versus some of the other analogies? | **λ°νμ 2:** κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ λ κ·Έκ³³μ 무μμ΄ μ’μ κ²μΈμ§ μλ 리λμ νμ΄ μμ λ, λ―Έκ΅μμ μ΅κ³ μ μ΄μ λͺ¨λΈμ΄λΌκ³ μκ°νλ κ²μ ꡬμΆνλ κ²μ΄ μ°λ¦¬μκ² λ§€μ° μ¬μ λ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ°λ¦¬μκ² μμ΄ μ΄κ²μ΄ μ±κ³΅μ ν΅μ¬ λλ ₯ μ€ νλλΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ¦, μ°λ¦¬κ° 보μ ν μ νλ€κ³Ό μμ μ± νλ‘νμΌλΏλ§ μλλΌ μ‘°μ§μ μλλ μ€μν©λλ€. **λ°νμ 1:** λ―Έκ΅ μΆμκ° μ΄λ»κ² μ§νλκ³ μλμ§λ₯Ό μμ¬μ μΌλ‘ μΆμνλ λ€λ₯Έ μμ₯λ€κ³Ό λΉκ΅νλ©΄ μ΄λ»μ΅λκΉ? μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ ν보νκΈ°κ° λ μ¬μ μ΅λκΉ, λ μ΄λ €μ μ΅λκΉ? λΉμ·ν©λκΉ? **λ°νμ 1:** λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό λ€λ₯Έ μ μ¬ μ¬λ‘λ€μ λΉκ΅νμ λ 무μμ΄ λ€λ₯΄κ±°λ λΉμ·ν©λκΉ? |
| Speaker 2: I mean, think the first thing, I mean, market is a little bit different from the competitive set in terms of the trends, in terms of the market dynamics, and I think also ultimately in terms of the capabilities. I think when you look at outside The U. S, I mean we're in close to 90 different countries and I think we have a leading share in a number of those markets. But I think what really determines the success in a market is if you have a superior product that really meets the demands of the patients as well as the surgeons, and you couple that with very strong organizational capabilities. And I think that's what we've done in a number of markets that we've had overseas. | λ°νμ 2: λ¨Όμ λ§μλλ¦¬κ³ μΆμ κ²μ, μμ₯μ΄ κ²½μμ 체λ€κ³Όλ νΈλ λ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ, μμ₯ μν μΈ‘λ©΄μμ, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘λ μλ μΈ‘λ©΄μμλ λ€μ λ€λ₯΄λ€λ μ μ λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μμ 보면, μ ν¬λ κ±°μ 90κ°κ΅μ μ§μΆν΄ μμΌλ©° κ·Έ μ€ λ€μ μμ₯μμ μ λμ μΈ μ μ μ¨μ ν보νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. νμ§λ§ μμ₯μμμ μ±κ³΅μ κ²°μ νλ κ²μ νμμ μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ μꡬλ₯Ό μ§μ μΌλ‘ μΆ©μ‘±μν€λ μ°μν μ νμ 보μ νκ³ , μ΄λ₯Ό λ§€μ° κ°λ ₯ν μ‘°μ§ μλκ³Ό κ²°ν©νλ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄κ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ μ ν¬κ° ν΄μΈ μ¬λ¬ μμ₯μμ ν΄μ¨ μΌμ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: And because of that, we've been able to attract a dominant share. And I think in the case of The U. S, I think that mirrors that And I think that's why we're very confident with our existing products as well as the pipeline that's coming that we're on track to becoming a leading player in The U. S. Market. Speaker 1: Can we just compare that to China for a second? You mentioned before that you had the sell in in China last year and you were thinking in the first half of this year, we're going to have much of that repeat yet. Why has China been slower maybe than I would have thought? And how do we think about the ramp in China over the next few years? Speaker 2: Yes. | **λ°νμ 2:** κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έ λλ¬Έμ μ°λ¦¬λ μ§λ°°μ μΈ μ μ μ¨μ ν보ν μ μμμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ―Έκ΅μ κ²½μ°μλ μ΄μ κ°μ μν©μ΄ λ°μλκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ μ°λ¦¬κ° κΈ°μ‘΄ μ νλ€λΏλ§ μλλΌ μμΌλ‘ μΆμλ νμ΄νλΌμΈμ λν΄μλ λ§€μ° νμ νλ μ΄μ μ΄λ©°, λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμ μ λμ μΈ νλ μ΄μ΄κ° λλ κΆ€λμ μ¬λΌ μλ€κ³ μκ°νλ μ΄μ μ
λλ€. **λ°νμ 1:** μ κΉ μ€κ΅κ³Ό λΉκ΅ν΄λ³Ό μ μμκΉμ? μ΄μ μ λ§μνμ λ°λ‘λ μλ μ μ€κ΅μμ μ μΈ(sell-in)μ΄ μμκ³ , μ¬ν΄ μλ°κΈ°μλ κ·Έλ° μν©μ΄ λ§μ΄ λ°λ³΅λμ§ μμ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ°νκ³ κ³μ λ€κ³ νμ ¨λλ°μ. μ€κ΅μ΄ μ κ° μκ°νλ κ²λ³΄λ€ μ λ λλ¦° κ² κ°μμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν₯ν λͺ λ κ° μ€κ΅μμμ λ¨νμ μ μ΄λ»κ² μκ°ν΄μΌ ν μ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. **λ°νμ 2:** λ€. |
| I mean, I think in China, obviously, it's not a direct market for us. It's through a distributor. I think those are decisions that we made based on really the resources that we had, both financial as well as organizational. So I think in the China market, you know, having full control and going through a third party, they're also building capabilities in that market as well. Speaker 2: I mean, it's a huge market. It's not an easy market. It requires a lot of resources. There is also the backdrop a little bit in terms of what we're seeing in terms of the market. It's not as progressing as much as I think we originally planned. | μ€κ΅μ κ²½μ°, λΆλͺ
ν μ ν¬μκ²λ μ§μ μμ₯μ΄ μλλλ€. μ ν΅μ
체λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μ§ννκ³ μμ£ . μ΄λ¬ν κ²°μ λ€μ μ ν¬κ° 보μ ν μμ, μ¦ μ¬μ μ μμκ³Ό μ‘°μ§μ μμμ λ°νμΌλ‘ λ΄λ¦° κ²μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ€κ΅ μμ₯μμλ μμ ν ν΅μ κΆμ κ°λ κ²κ³Ό μ 3μλ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μ§ννλ κ² μ¬μ΄μμ, κ·Έλ€ λν ν΄λΉ μμ₯μμ μλμ ꡬμΆνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: κ±°λν μμ₯μ λλ€. μ¬μ΄ μμ₯μ΄ μλμ£ . λ§μ μμμ΄ νμν©λλ€. λν μ ν¬κ° μμ₯μμ λ³΄κ³ μλ μν©μ λ°°κ²½μΌλ‘ λ³Ό λ, μ²μμ κ³ννλ λ§νΌ μ§μ μ΄ μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§μ§ μκ³ μλ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: But what we've seen with our distributor as they continue to build up their capabilities that we're seeing good sequential growth quarter over quarter. We're very confident that's going to continue, but it's going to be a longer process. Speaker 1: Maybe talk about the choice to use a distributor there. This is one that you know. And as a reminder, they made a big investment that was announced alongside the company in Q3 of last year. So can you talk about some of the capabilities they're building? Speaker 2: Yes. I think, I mean, whenever you go into a market, you need to assess, are you going to do it direct or are you going to do it through a distributor. | **νμ 2:** νμ§λ§ μ ν¬ μ ν΅μ
μ²΄κ° μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μλμ ꡬμΆν΄ λκ°λ©΄μ λΆκΈ° λλΉ μμ°¨μ μΌλ‘ μνΈν μ±μ₯μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν μ±μ₯μΈκ° μ§μλ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ λ§€μ° νμ νμ§λ§, λ€μ κΈ΄ κ³Όμ μ΄ λ κ²μ
λλ€. **νμ 1:** κ·Έκ³³μμ μ ν΅μ 체λ₯Ό μ νν μ΄μ μ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? μ΄λ μ μκ³ κ³μ μ 체μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ°Έκ³ λ‘ λ§μλ리면, μλ 3λΆκΈ°μ νμ¬μ ν¨κ» λ°νλ λκ·λͺ¨ ν¬μλ₯Ό μ§νν μ 체μ΄κΈ°λ ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ€μ΄ ꡬμΆνκ³ μλ μλλ€μ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? **νμ 2:** λ€. μ μκ°μλ, μ΄λ€ μμ₯μ μ§μΆν λλ§λ€ μ§μ μ§μΆν κ²μΈμ§ μλλ©΄ μ ν΅μ 체λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μ§μΆν κ²μΈμ§λ₯Ό νκ°ν΄μΌ ν©λλ€. |
| A lot of that boils down to what is the financial requirement, the financial resources required to do it, as well as your organizational capabilities to do it. And, you know, quite honestly, any time you make an investment in a direct market, which we've done in The U. S, it's a significant investment from a financial as well as organizational. Speaker 2: And, you know, for us at the time, evaluating the opportunity, we felt that it was best suited to go through a distributor so we can really allocate and dedicate our limited resources to The U. S. To also driving the innovation pipeline. Generally, Matt, in most of the markets outside The U. | μ΄ λͺ¨λ κ²μ κ²°κ΅ μ¬μ μ μꡬμ¬ν, μ¦ μ΄λ₯Ό μννλ λ° νμν μ¬μ μ μμκ³Ό μ‘°μ§μ μλμΌλ‘ κ·κ²°λ©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μμ§ν λ§μλ리면, μ ν¬κ° λ―Έκ΅μμ νλ κ²μ²λΌ μ§μ μμ₯μ ν¬μν λλ§λ€ μ¬μ μ μΌλ‘λ μ‘°μ§μ μΌλ‘ μλΉν ν¬μκ° νμν©λλ€. νμ 2: λΉμ μ ν¬κ° κΈ°νλ₯Ό νκ°νμ λ, μ ν΅μ 체λ₯Ό ν΅νλ κ²μ΄ μ΅μ μ΄λΌκ³ νλ¨νμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μ ν¬μ μ νλ μμμ λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μ μ§μ€νκ³ λμμ νμ νμ΄νλΌμΈμ μΆμ§νλ λ° μ λ ν μ μμκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. μΌλ°μ μΌλ‘ Matt, λ―Έκ΅ μΈ λλΆλΆμ μμ₯μμλ... |
| S, we generally start with the distributor, get established proof points, and then over time we acquire that distributor. Speaker 2: You know, for us at the time, I think it was the right approach. And, you know, we continue to think in terms of our priorities and, you know, how we want to manage the resources, the limited resources we had, it was probably best to go through a distributor. Speaker 1: And maybe switching gears, I wanted to talk a little bit about Mia and Prezurve. And these products that you've talked about being market expanding, you're now guiding to, I think, 8,000,000 to $10,000,000 for EMEA this year. | S, μΌλ°μ μΌλ‘ μ ν¬λ μ ν΅μ
체λΆν° μμν΄μ μ
μ¦λ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό ν보ν λ€μ, μκ°μ΄ μ§λλ©΄μ ν΄λΉ μ ν΅μ
체λ₯Ό μΈμνλ λ°©μμ μ·¨ν©λλ€. νμ 2: λΉμ μ ν¬μκ²λ μ¬λ°λ₯Έ μ κ·Όλ²μ΄μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ ν¬μ μ°μ μμμ μ νλ μμμ μ΄λ»κ² κ΄λ¦¬ν μ§λ₯Ό κ³ λ €ν λ, μ ν΅μ 체λ₯Ό ν΅νλ κ²μ΄ μλ§λ μ΅μ μ΄μμ κ²μ λλ€. νμ 1: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ νμ λ₯Ό λ°κΏμ, Miaμ Prezurveμ λν΄ μ‘°κΈ μ΄μΌκΈ°νκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μμ₯ νμ₯ μ νμ΄λΌκ³ λ§μνμ μ΄ μ νλ€μ λν΄, νμ¬ μ¬ν΄ EMEA μ§μμμ 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬λ‘ κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό μ μνκ³ κ³μ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| So I guess could we talk about the two products, how they kind of compare and complement each other? Sure. And I'd love to hear any proof points about how you think they've been market expanding to date. Speaker 2: Yes. So EMEA, we're very happy with the progress. I think we mentioned in the last earnings call the number of cities and we're in 75 clinics. That continues to expand. So we're really seeing good progress on the EMEA business. Speaker 2: I mean, keep in mind this is, you know, we haven't been in the market for a long time, but we continue to build that out. | κ·Έλμ λ μ νμ΄ μ΄λ»κ² λΉκ΅λκ³ μλ‘ λ³΄μνλμ§μ λν΄ μ΄μΌκΈ°ν΄λ³Ό μ μμκΉμ? λ¬Όλ‘ μ
λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ§κΈκΉμ§ μ΄ μ νλ€μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μμ₯μ νμ₯μμΌ°λ€κ³ μκ°νμλμ§μ λν ꡬ체μ μΈ μ¦κ±°λ€μ λ£κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ€. EMEAμ κ²½μ°, μ§μ μν©μ λ§€μ° λ§μ‘±νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ§λ μ€μ λ°νμμ λμ μλ₯Ό μΈκΈνλλ°, νμ¬ 75κ° ν΄λ¦¬λμ μ§μΆν΄ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ κ³μ νμ₯λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ EMEA μ¬μ μμ μ λ§ μ’μ μ§μ μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ¬Όλ‘ μ°λ¦¬κ° μμ₯μ μ§μΆν μ§ μ€λλμ§ μμλ€λ μ μ μΌλμ λμ μΌ νμ§λ§, κ³μν΄μ μ¬μ μ ꡬμΆν΄ λκ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| You know, what we're seeing in terms of market expanding is, you know, in our studies, close to forty percent of Mia users are patients that really never considered a breast augmentation. So I think that really demonstrates that it's certainly market expanding. Also we get very positive NPS scores, customer satisfaction scores. So I think it really demonstrates the potential of that market. Speaker 2: But where we see a huge value is really looking at this on a broad basis with the minimally invasive platform with the launch of Preserve. So Preserve is really something that can be used across more procedures. So it really expands the market. You can have larger cup sizes. | μλ €λ리μλ©΄, μμ₯ νμ₯ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ ν¬κ° λ³΄κ³ μλ κ²μ, μ ν¬ μ°κ΅¬μ λ°λ₯΄λ©΄ Mia μ¬μ©μμ κ±°μ 40%κ° μ€μ λ‘ μ λ°©νλμ μ μ ν κ³ λ €ν΄λ³Έ μ μ΄ μλ νμλ€μ΄λΌλ μ μ
λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄κ²μ΄ νμ€ν μμ₯μ νμ₯νκ³ μλ€λ κ²μ 보μ¬μ€λ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λν μ ν¬λ λ§€μ° κΈμ μ μΈ NPS μ μμ κ³ κ° λ§μ‘±λ μ μλ₯Ό λ°κ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ μ΄κ²μ΄ ν΄λΉ μμ₯μ μ μ¬λ ₯μ μ λ§λ‘ 보μ¬μ€λ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. νμ 2: νμ§λ§ μ ν¬κ° ν° κ°μΉλ₯Ό 보λ λΆλΆμ Preserve μΆμμ ν¨κ» μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌμ κ΄λ²μν κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ λ°λΌλ³΄λ κ²μ λλ€. Preserveλ μ€μ λ‘ λ λ§μ μμ μ μ¬μ©λ μ μλ μ νμ λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄κ²μ΄ μ λ§λ‘ μμ₯μ νμ₯μν΅λλ€. λ ν° μ»΅ μ¬μ΄μ¦λ κ°λ₯ν©λλ€. |
| You can have mastopexy. Speaker 2: It's more procedures. It's also available to more clinics. It's a process that I think a lot of the surgeons are already accustomed to. So we're really using Preserve to complement what Mia has and really build out the minimally invasive platform. As I mentioned, you know, we rolled that out in Europe earlier this year and the interest has been extremely strong. Speaker 2: Also we did that in Brazil and we had very strong interest. I mean in some respects more than we expected. So a little bit of a scramble to get to make sure we have the right supply. But I think this is really the wave of the future is minimally invasive. | μ λ°© κ³ μ μ μ λ°μ μ μμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 2: λ λ§μ μμ μ΄ κ°λ₯ν©λλ€. λν λ λ§μ ν΄λ¦¬λμμ μ΄μ©ν μ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ λ§μ μΈκ³Όμμ¬λ€μ΄ μ΄λ―Έ μ΅μν κ³Όμ μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ ν¬λ μ€μ λ‘ Preserveλ₯Ό μ¬μ©νμ¬ Miaκ° λ³΄μ ν κ²μ 보μνκ³ μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅ νλ«νΌμ ꡬμΆνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ¬ν΄ μ΄ μ λ½μμ μ΄λ₯Ό μΆμνλλ° κ΄μ¬μ΄ λ§€μ° λμμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 2: λν λΈλΌμ§μμλ μ΄λ₯Ό μ€μνλλ° λ§€μ° κ°ν κ΄μ¬μ 보μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ€ λ©΄μμλ μ ν¬κ° μμνλ κ²λ³΄λ€ λ λ§μ κ΄μ¬μ λ°μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ μ μ ν 곡κΈμ ν보νκΈ° μν΄ μ½κ° λΆμ£Όνμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ΅μμΉ¨μ΅μ΄μΌλ§λ‘ μ λ§ λ―Έλμ νλ¦μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| And you see that across a lot of different procedures. Speaker 2: I think we're really on the forefront. And I think combining Prezervae with Mia is for us the right way to do it. Speaker 1: And just wanted to be clear on the 8,000,000 to $10,000,000 does that include Preservaes or not? Speaker 2: That's just Mia. Speaker 1: And could Preservaes be material this year or next? Speaker 2: I think our expectation it would be material this year. I think it's going to drive a lot of the growth that we have in some of our OUS markets. Speaker 1: Got you. So I'd love to touch on recon as well. You mentioned before that as part of the super cycle of innovation. | λ€μν μμ μμ μ΄λ° νμμ λ³Ό μ μμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 2: μ ν¬κ° μ λ§ μ΅μ μ μ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Prezervaeμ Miaλ₯Ό κ²°ν©νλ κ²μ΄ μ ν¬μκ²λ μ¬λ°λ₯Έ λ°©ν₯μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 1: 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λν΄ λͺ νν νκ³ μΆμλ°, μ¬κΈ°μ Prezervaeκ° ν¬ν¨λμ΄ μλμ? λ°νμ 2: κ·Έκ²μ Miaλ§μ μμΉμ λλ€. λ°νμ 1: κ·Έλ λ€λ©΄ Prezervaeκ° μ¬ν΄λ λ΄λ μ μ€μν μλ―Έλ₯Ό κ°μ§ μ μμκΉμ? λ°νμ 2: μ¬ν΄ μ€μν μλ―Έλ₯Ό κ°μ§ κ²μΌλ‘ κΈ°λνλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. ν΄μΈ μμ₯μμμ μ±μ₯μ ν¬κ² 견μΈν κ²μΌλ‘ 보μ λλ€. λ°νμ 1: μκ² μ΅λλ€. μ¬κ±΄ λΆμΌμ λν΄μλ μ΄μΌκΈ°νκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ΄μ μ νμ μ μνΌ μ¬μ΄ν΄μ μΌλΆλΌκ³ μΈκΈνμ ¨λλ°μ. |
| So I'd love to hear more about where you are with the tissue expander. I know you've been getting into some accounts there. Speaker 1: And then could you talk about the pathway for recon in general and when you would expect that to be a contributor? Speaker 2: Yes. So as we mentioned in the last call, we're in 60 accounts. We're going through the VAC process and another 100. So we continue to expand that business. You know, what we're trying to do, Matt, is to really get a presence in maybe one or two key institutions in each of the geographies just to have a really strong presence. | λ°νμ 1: μ‘°μ§ νμ₯κΈ°(tissue expander) κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ νμ¬ μν©μ λν΄ λ μμΈν λ£κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μΌλΆ κ³μ λ€μ μ§μ
νκ³ κ³μ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μλλ°μ. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ¬κ±΄ λΆμΌ μ λ°μ μ§ν κ²½λ‘μ μΈμ μ―€ κΈ°μ¬ μμΈμ΄ λ κ²μΌλ‘ μμνμλμ§ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? λ°νμ 2: λ€. μ§λ μ½μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, νμ¬ 60κ° κ³μ μ μ§μ ν΄ μκ³ , μΆκ°λ‘ 100κ° κ³μ μμ VAC(Value Analysis Committee, κ°μΉλΆμμμν) νλ‘μΈμ€λ₯Ό μ§ννκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ ν΄λΉ μ¬μ μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ νμ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. Matt, μ ν¬κ° μλνκ³ μλ κ²μ κ° μ§μμμ νλ κ°μ ν΅μ¬ κΈ°κ΄μ μ€μ§μ μΌλ‘ κ°λ ₯ν μ μ§λ₯Ό ν보νλ κ²μ λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: But most of our focus in the sales organization is really around the odd business because we don't have currently the indication, recon indication. So we're trying to do a lot of this to set up so we have a good foundation so when we do have the recon indication. Where we are with that is we're going to be getting our three year data during the summer. We're going to be filing soon after that, the end of this year. And obviously, it's very dependent on the FDA, the timing, but we would hope to get recon indication back half of twenty twenty six and or the early twenty twenty seven. Speaker 2: But a lot of that is going to be very dependent on the FDA. Speaker 1: Great. | **νμ 2:** νμ§λ§ μμ
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| And then beyond recon, can we talk a little bit about the GEM program and anything else you would highlight in your pipeline? Speaker 2: Yes. So I think, in terms of the pipeline I mentioned, on a global basis, we have a number of excellent products that are still really have not entered The U. S. So I think we're going to have a nice pipeline of innovation over the next two to three years. I think beyond that, GEM is something that we're very excited about. Speaker 2: It's still very early stages. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ¦¬μ½ μΈμλ GEM νλ‘κ·Έλ¨κ³Ό νμ΄νλΌμΈμμ μ£Όλͺ©ν λ§ν λ€λ₯Έ μ¬νλ€μ λν΄ μ΄μΌκΈ°ν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? νμ 2: λ€. νμ΄νλΌμΈ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ λ§μλ리면, κΈλ‘λ² μ°¨μμμ μμ§ λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μ μ§μ νμ§ μμ μ°μν μ νλ€μ΄ λ€μ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ ν₯ν 2~3λ κ° νμ μ μΈ μ νλ€μ νλ₯ν νμ΄νλΌμΈμ 보μ νκ² λ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έ μΈμλ GEMμ μ ν¬κ° λ§€μ° κΈ°λνκ³ μλ νλ‘κ·Έλ¨μ λλ€. νμ 2: μμ§μ λ§€μ° μ΄κΈ° λ¨κ³μ λλ€. |
| We're going to be looking at going to market really in test basis in some of the Latin American markets, Speaker 3: where I Speaker 2: think the approval process is going to be a lot easier for us. And we really want to test out the concept, build out the capabilities and really understand the go to market, what would be the most effective before we start introducing that in some of our bigger markets. So that's some of the innovation we've talked about. There's other innovation that we haven't really talked about. I mean, this company is built on innovation. Speaker 2: We continue to drive that. | μ ν¬λ λΌν΄ μλ©λ¦¬μΉ΄ μμ₯ μ€ μΌλΆμμ ν
μ€νΈ κΈ°λ°μΌλ‘ μμ₯ μ§μΆμ κ²ν νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 3: κ·Έκ³³μμλ νμ 2: μΉμΈ μ μ°¨κ° μ ν¬μκ² ν¨μ¬ μμν κ²μΌλ‘ μκ°λ©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ ν¬λ μ λ§λ‘ 컨μ μ ν μ€νΈνκ³ , μλμ ꡬμΆνλ©°, μμ₯ μ§μΆ λ°©μμ μ΄ν΄νκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. λ ν° μμ₯λ€μ λμ νκΈ° μ μ μ΄λ€ κ²μ΄ κ°μ₯ ν¨κ³Όμ μΌμ§ νμ νκ³ μ ν©λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ μ ν¬κ° λ Όμν νμ μ€ μΌλΆμ λλ€. μ ν¬κ° μ€μ λ‘ μΈκΈνμ§ μμ λ€λ₯Έ νμ λ€λ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄ νμ¬λ νμ μ κΈ°λ°μΌλ‘ ꡬμΆλμμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: μ ν¬λ κ³μν΄μ κ·Έκ²μ μΆμ§νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| But I think for the next two to three years, we have a lot that we can use to continue to drive growth. And it's really going to be about our ability to execute and putting together the best organization to do that. Speaker 1: Maybe going back to the market, could we talk a little bit about the competitive set and anything that you've seen change with competition? I know Sientra has had some challenges and has changed hands. Are you seeing anything different from the larger companies or innovative, anything changing the landscape? Speaker 2: No. Mean, think listen, I think in general we would say we haven't seen a real concerted effort by, let's say, two major players. | νμ§λ§ ν₯ν 2-3λ
λμμ μ§μμ μΈ μ±μ₯μ 견μΈν μ μλ λ§μ μμλ€μ 보μ νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ λ§ μ€μν κ²μ μ°λ¦¬μ μ€ν λ₯λ ₯κ³Ό μ΄λ₯Ό μν μ΅κ³ μ μ‘°μ§μ ꡬμ±νλ κ²μ
λλ€. λ°νμ 1: μμ₯μΌλ‘ λ€μ λμκ°μ, κ²½μ ꡬλμ λν΄ μ‘°κΈ μ΄μΌκΈ°ν΄λ³Ό μ μμκΉμ? κ²½μμ¬λ€μκ²μ λ³νλ₯Ό λͺ©κ²©νμ κ²μ΄ μλμ? Sientraκ° μ΄λ €μμ κ²ͺκ³ μκ³ μμ μ£Όκ° λ°λ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μλλ°μ. λν νμ¬λ€μ΄λ νμ μ μΈ κΈ°μ λ€λ‘λΆν° λ€λ₯Έ μμ§μμ λ³΄κ³ κ³μ μ§, μ κ³ νκ²½μ λ³νμν€λ μμΈμ΄ μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. λ°νμ 2: μλμ. μ, λ€μ΄λ³΄μΈμ. μΌλ°μ μΌλ‘ λ§μλ리면 λ μ£Όμ μ 체λ€μ΄ μ€μ§μ μΌλ‘ 곡쑰λ λ Έλ ₯μ κΈ°μΈμ΄λ κ²μ λ³΄μ§ λͺ»νλ€κ³ λ§μλ릴 μ μμ΅λλ€. |
| I mean, there's pockets of activities. There's a lot of claims that are being made by different sales reps. I think in certain cases, they've been pushing in terms of some pricing activity. Speaker 2: But so far, we haven't really seen we've seen some responses, but I would say it's not been to the level that's aggressive enough and it's concerted that it's really impacted our business. So I think we continue to be very confident and bullish in terms of what we're doing. And we'll see over time if that changes. Obviously, as we start penetrating and get more share, I think that creates you know, greater threats and then probably more aggressive responses. | μΌλΆ νλλ€μ΄ μ°λ°μ μΌλ‘ λνλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ¬λ¬ μμ
λ΄λΉμλ€μ΄ λ€μν μ£Όμ₯μ νκ³ μκ³ , νΉμ κ²½μ°μλ μΌλΆ κ°κ²© νλ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μλ°μ κ°νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 2: νμ§λ§ μ§κΈκΉμ§ μ°λ¦¬κ° λ³Έ λ°λ‘λ μΌλΆ λμμ μμμ§λ§, μΆ©λΆν 곡격μ μ΄κ±°λ μ‘°μ§μ μ΄μ΄μ μ€μ λ‘ μ°λ¦¬ μ¬μ μ μν₯μ λ―ΈμΉ μ λλ μλμλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ°λ¦¬κ° νκ³ μλ μΌμ λν΄ κ³μν΄μ λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ λκ΄μ μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μκ°μ΄ μ§λλ©΄μ μν©μ΄ λ°λμ§ μ§μΌλ³΄κ² μ΅λλ€. λΆλͺ ν μ°λ¦¬κ° μμ₯μ μΉ¨ν¬νκΈ° μμνκ³ λ λ§μ μ μ μ¨μ ν보νκ² λλ©΄, κ·Έκ²μ΄ λ ν° μνμ λ§λ€μ΄λ΄κ³ μλ§λ λ 곡격μ μΈ λμμ λΆλ¬μ¬ κ²μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λcalls. |
| Speaker 1: How have you been able to do with price in The U. S? We've heard from some of our checks that you're at sort of a modest premium, kind of a mid or high single digit premium. And I would love to hear about pricing internationally, too, and how that's holding up. Speaker 2: Yes. I think the pricing is what we've always wanted to do is have a slight premium versus the competitive set. That's how we try to do it, you know, not only in The U. S. But in a lot of the OUS markets. Speaker 2: You know, I think we believe we have a far superior product, superior safety profile. We are the leaders in terms of innovation. So that really warrants that premium pricing. | **λ°νμ 1:** λ―Έκ΅μμ κ°κ²© μ±
μ μ μ΄λ»κ² νκ³ κ³μ κ°μ? μ ν¬κ° νμΈν λ°λ‘λ μ λΉν ν리미μ, μ¦ μ€κ°μμ λμ ν μλ¦Ώμ ν리미μμ λ°κ³ κ³μ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν΄μΈ κ°κ²© μ±
μ μ λν΄μλ λ£κ³ μΆκ³ , κ·Έκ²μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ μ§λκ³ μλμ§ μκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. **λ°νμ 2:** λ€. κ°κ²© μ± μ κ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ μ ν¬κ° νμ μΆκ΅¬ν΄μ¨ κ²μ κ²½μμ¬ λλΉ μ½κ°μ ν리미μμ κ°λ κ²μ λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ μ ν¬κ° λ―Έκ΅λΏλ§ μλλΌ λ§μ ν΄μΈ μμ₯μμλ μλνκ³ μλ λ°©μμ λλ€. **λ°νμ 2:** μ ν¬λ ν¨μ¬ μ°μν μ νκ³Ό λ°μ΄λ μμ μ± νλ‘νμΌμ 보μ νκ³ μλ€κ³ λ―Ώμ΅λλ€. μ ν¬λ νμ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ λκΈ°μ μ λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄λ¬ν ν리미μ κ°κ²© μ± μ μ΄ μ λΉνλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| Obviously, where you do run into some challenges is depending on how the competitors react to it. If they're going to react to a significant price discount, then you really have to say you have to look at and value it in a particular market, does our product warrant that type of premium? Speaker 2: And what we really try to do is just avoid any type of price competition because I think that erodes the real capabilities and what we are all about is focusing on a superior product that with a superior safety profile. Speaker 1: Got you. And Mia is sort of a different animal. Can you talk about how you're able to price that and what that means? | λΆλͺ
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λ₯μ ν리미μμ μ λΉνν μ μλμ§ μ΄ν΄λ³΄κ³ νκ°ν΄μΌ ν©λλ€. νμ 2: μ ν¬κ° μ λ§λ‘ λ Έλ ₯νλ κ²μ μ΄λ€ ννμ κ°κ²© κ²½μμ΄λ νΌνλ κ²μ λλ€. μλνλ©΄ κ·Έλ° κ²λ€μ΄ μ§μ ν μλμ νΌμνλ€κ³ μκ°νκΈ° λλ¬Έμ΄λ©°, μ ν¬κ° μ§μ€νλ κ²μ μ°μν μμ μ± νλ‘νμΌμ κ°μ§ μ°μν μ νμ μ΄μ μ λ§μΆλ κ²μ λλ€. νμ 1: μκ² μ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Miaλ λ€μ λ€λ₯Έ μ±κ²©μ μ νμΈλ°μ. μ΄λ»κ² κ°κ²©μ μ± μ ν μ μλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έκ²μ΄ 무μμ μλ―Ένλμ§ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? |
| And I want to get into some margin discussion with Raj, too. So this is all sort of a You can hear the Speaker 2: pricing stuff, too. Speaker 1: But, yeah, maybe talk about Mia and package compares in terms of the economics you're able to extract and what it means for the margins. Speaker 3: Well, think as Pete noted, you know, if you look across the portfolio from round ergonomics to ergonomics two to Preserve and up to MIA, right? At every step along the way, there's additional value for the patient, to the surgeon, and we as a company benefit from higher ASPs and higher gross margins. There's no sacrifice as a patient moves down. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Rajμλ λ§μ§μ λν λ
Όμλ₯Ό νκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ΄ λͺ¨λ κ²μ΄ μ΄λ€ λ©΄μμλ... **νμ 2**: κ°κ²© κ΄λ ¨ λ΄μ©λ λ€μ μ μμ΅λλ€. **νμ 1**: νμ§λ§ λ€, Miaμ ν¨ν€μ§ λΉκ΅ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μΆμΆν μ μλ κ²½μ μ ν¨κ³Όμ κ·Έκ²μ΄ λ§μ§μ λ―ΈμΉλ μλ―Έμ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? **νμ 3**: κΈμμ, Peteκ° μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ μ λ°μ μ΄ν΄λ³΄λ©΄ λΌμ΄λ μλ₯΄κ³ λ Έλ―Ήμ€λΆν° μλ₯΄κ³ λ Έλ―Ήμ€ 2, Preserve, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ MIAκΉμ§, λ§μ£ ? κ° λ¨κ³λ§λ€ νμμκ², μΈκ³Όμμκ² μΆκ°μ μΈ κ°μΉκ° μμΌλ©°, μ°λ¦¬ νμ¬λ λ λμ ASP(νκ· νλ§€κ°κ²©)μ λ λμ μ΄λ§μ§μ ννμ λ°μ΅λλ€. νμκ° (μ ν λΌμΈμ) μ νν λ μ΄λ€ ν¬μλ μμ΅λλ€. |
| You know, the round implant has all the same surface technology, the same construction. There's no compromise one needs to make. Speaker 3: And surgeons and patients can select as they want to along that path. And as Peter noted, in The US, we have the earliest part of that. We have rounded ergonomics. And so we have these other steps still to come. And you asked about Mia. Speaker 3: Mia is at the upper end, right? There is no visible scar. There's no general anesthesia. Patients are running out in fifteen minutes. It's a very unique offering. Speaker 3: And we price it as such, right? And as noted, we are seeing good traction. | λΌμ΄λ μνλνΈλ λμΌν νλ©΄ κΈ°μ κ³Ό λμΌν ꡬ쑰λ₯Ό λͺ¨λ κ°μΆκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ€ ννλ ν νμκ° μμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 3: μΈκ³Όμμ¬μ νμλ€μ κ·Έ κ²½λ‘λ₯Ό λ°λΌ μνλ λλ‘ μ νν μ μμ΅λλ€. νΌν°κ° μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, λ―Έκ΅μμλ κ·Έ μ΄κΈ° λ¨κ³μ μμ΅λλ€. λΌμ΄λ μλ₯΄κ³ λ Έλ―Ήμ€λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μμ£ . κ·Έλμ μμ§ λ€λ₯Έ λ¨κ³λ€μ΄ λ¨μμμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Miaμ λν΄ μ§λ¬Ένμ ¨λλ°μ. λ°νμ 3: Miaλ μ΅μμ μ νμ λλ€. νν°κ° 보μ΄μ§ μκ³ , μ μ λ§μ·¨κ° νμ μμΌλ©°, νμλ€μ΄ 15λΆ λ§μ λκ° μ μμ΅λλ€. λ§€μ° λ νΉν μ νμ λλ€. λ°νμ 3: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έμ λ§κ² κ°κ²©μ μ± μ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ’μ 견μΈλ ₯μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| We've been in the market for less than two years, and we'll do 8 to $10,000,000 as we mentioned this year, and it's growing very nicely. So I think having that portfolio and really that spectrum of products allowing both surgeons and patients to select where they want to be is the right strategy. Speaker 1: And then furthering the margin discussion. So you've talked about some goals now to become EBITDA positive by the end of the year and cash flow positive. Maybe talk about your confidence in those goals and remind us what's driving the profitability this year and your ability to achieve that. Speaker 3: Yes. Think to the question on the confidence, I mean, are very confident. | μ ν¬λ μμ₯μ μ§μ
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μ΄ μ± λμ§ μμμ§λ§, μ¬ν΄ μΈκΈν λ°μ κ°μ΄ 800λ§ λ¬λ¬μμ 1,000λ§ λ¬λ¬μ λ§€μΆμ λ¬μ±ν μμ μ΄λ©°, λ§€μ° μμ‘°λ‘κ² μ±μ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄λ¬ν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μ€μ λ‘ μΈκ³Όμμ¬μ νμ λͺ¨λκ° μνλ κ³³μ μ νν μ μλλ‘ νλ μ ν μ€ννΈλΌμ κ°μΆλ κ²μ΄ μ¬λ°λ₯Έ μ λ΅μ΄λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 1: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ§μ§ λ Όμλ₯Ό μ΄μ΄κ°μλ©΄, μ°λ§κΉμ§ EBITDA νμ μ νκ³Ό νκΈνλ¦ νμ λ¬μ±μ΄λΌλ λͺ©νμ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ ¨λλ°μ. μ΄λ¬ν λͺ©νμ λν νμ κ³Ό μ¬ν΄ μμ΅μ±μ 견μΈνλ μμΈλ€, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄λ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν μ μλ λ₯λ ₯μ λν΄ λ€μ νλ² μ€λͺ ν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? λ°νμ 3: λ€, νμ μ λν μ§λ¬Έκ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μλ, μ ν¬λ λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| It's also it's become I think for us as a company, these are goals which are as important as achieving our revenue targets and other things, right? So it's become really part of what we're really organizing around is delivering on these profitability metrics we've put out. If you think about what drives it for us this year, it's really it's a couple of things, right? Speaker 3: It's The U. S, right? The U. S. Revenue is increasing very rapidly. Speaker 3: We've talked about meaningfully exceeding the $35,000,000 number we've given for this year. The margin structure in The U. S. Is significantly higher than outside The U. S. | μ΄κ²μ λν μ°λ¦¬ νμ¬μκ² μμ΄μ, μ΄λ¬ν λͺ©νλ€μ΄ λ§€μΆ λͺ©ν λ¬μ±μ΄λ λ€λ₯Έ κ²λ€λ§νΌμ΄λ μ€μν΄μ‘λ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ§μ£ ? λ°λΌμ μ΄λ μ λ§λ‘ μ°λ¦¬κ° μ μν μμ΅μ± μ§νλ€μ λ¬μ±νλ κ²μ μ€μ¬μΌλ‘ μ‘°μ§μ μ΄μνλ ν΅μ¬ μμκ° λμμ΅λλ€. μ¬ν΄ μ°λ¦¬μκ² μ΄λ₯Ό 견μΈνλ μμΈλ€μ μκ°ν΄λ³΄λ©΄, μ€μ λ‘ λͺ κ°μ§κ° μμ΅λλ€. λ§μ£ ? νμ 3: λ°λ‘ λ―Έκ΅μ λλ€. λ§μ£ ? λ―Έκ΅ λ§€μΆμ΄ λ§€μ° λΉ λ₯΄κ² μ¦κ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 3: μ°λ¦¬κ° μ¬ν΄ μ μν 3,500λ§ λ¬λ¬λΌλ μμΉλ₯Ό μλ―Έ μκ² μ΄κ³Όν κ²μ΄λΌκ³ λ§μλλ¦° λ° μμ΅λλ€. λ―Έκ΅μ λ§μ§ ꡬ쑰λ λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μλ³΄λ€ μλΉν λμ΅λλ€. |
| Speaker 3: We've talked about the realized pricing for us on a blended basis in The U. S. Being more than 2x what it is on a blended basis outside The United States, where we're in a lot of distributor markets. So we're realizing much higher prices in The United States. And the cost of making those products is essentially the same. Speaker 3: Comes out of the same facility we have in Costa Rica, and there's not a lot of differential in that cost of goods. And so that significant gross margin increase is then married with an operating expense base that we've talked about being relatively static over the course of the year. | λ°νμ 3: μ ν¬κ° λ―Έκ΅μμ λΈλ λλ κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘ μ€ννκ³ μλ κ°κ²©μ΄ λ―Έκ΅ μΈ μ§μ, μ¦ μ ν¬κ° λ§μ μ ν΅μ
체 μμ₯μ μ§μΆν΄ μλ μ§μμ λΈλ λλ κΈ°μ€ κ°κ²©λ³΄λ€ 2λ°° μ΄μ λλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦° λ° μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ ν¬λ λ―Έκ΅μμ ν¨μ¬ λμ κ°κ²©μ μ€ννκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄λ¬ν μ νλ€μ μ μ‘° λΉμ©μ λ³Έμ§μ μΌλ‘ λμΌν©λλ€. λ°νμ 3: μ½μ€ν리카μ μλ λμΌν μμ€μμ μμ°λλ©°, ν΄λΉ μ νμκ°μλ ν° μ°¨μ΄κ° μμ΅λλ€. λ°λΌμ μ΄λ¬ν μλΉν μ΄μ΄μ΅λ₯ μ¦κ°λ μ°μ€ μλμ μΌλ‘ μ μ μΈ μμ€μ μ μ§νλ€κ³ λ§μλλ¦° μ΄μλΉμ© κΈ°λ°κ³Ό κ²°ν©λ©λλ€. |
| We made the heavy investments in the fourth quarter of last year in the first quarter of standing up The U. S. Operations. Speaker 3: So we have the 40 plus salespeople. We have our office in Austin. We have the back office function, sales management team. There will be some incremental increase as the business scales in terms of shipping and other types of variable costs, but not significantly. And so as the revenue increases, your operating expenses are relatively stable. Speaker 3: That's what drives us towards that EBITDA profitability in the second half of this year, and we remain very confident in our ability to hit that. | μλ
4λΆκΈ°μ μ¬ν΄ 1λΆκΈ°μ λ―Έκ΅ μ¬μ
μ΄μ ꡬμΆμ μν΄ λκ·λͺ¨ ν¬μλ₯Ό λ¨ννμ΅λλ€. λ°νμ 3: νμ¬ 40λͺ μ΄μμ μμ μΈλ ₯μ 보μ νκ³ μμΌλ©°, μ€μ€ν΄μ μ¬λ¬΄μλ₯Ό λκ³ μκ³ , λ°±μ€νΌμ€ κΈ°λ₯κ³Ό μμ κ΄λ¦¬νμ κ°μΆκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ¬μ κ·λͺ¨κ° νμ₯λ¨μ λ°λΌ λ°°μ‘λΉ λ° κΈ°ν λ³λλΉ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μΌλΆ μ μ§μ μΈ μ¦κ°κ° μμ κ²μ΄μ§λ§, ν¬μ§λ μμ κ²μ λλ€. λ°λΌμ λ§€μΆμ΄ μ¦κ°νλ λμ μ΄μλΉμ©μ μλμ μΌλ‘ μμ μ μΌλ‘ μ μ§λ©λλ€. λ°νμ 3: μ΄κ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ μ¬ν΄ νλ°κΈ° EBITDA μμ΅μ± λ¬μ±μ 견μΈνλ μμΈμ΄λ©°, μ ν¬λ μ΄λ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν μ μλ λ₯λ ₯μ λν΄ λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| And then if you look at below that, the big expense items for us are really the interest on the debt we have and then what happens with working capital and CapEx, which are generally stable. And so as the revenue continues to grow into next year and we're leveraging those other two major expense lines, we see a pretty line a pretty good line of sight to cash flow breakeven at some point next year as well. Speaker 2: Yes. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έ μλλ₯Ό 보μλ©΄, μ ν¬μ μ£Όμ λΉμ© νλͺ©λ€μ μ€μ λ‘ λ³΄μ λΆμ±μ λν μ΄μλΉμ©κ³Ό μ΄μ μλ³Έ λ° μλ³Έμ§μΆμμ λ°μνλ λΉμ©λ€μΈλ°, μ΄λ€μ μΌλ°μ μΌλ‘ μμ μ μ
λλ€. λ°λΌμ λ΄λ
μλ λ§€μΆμ΄ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μ±μ₯νκ³ μ ν¬κ° μ΄ λ κ°μ§ μ£Όμ λΉμ© λΌμΈμ λ λ²λ¦¬μ§νκ² λλ©΄μ, λ΄λ
μ€ μ΄λ μμ μμ νκΈνλ¦ μμ΅λΆκΈ°μ μ λλ¬ν μ μμ κ²μ΄λΌλ μλΉν λͺ
νν μ λ§μ κ°μ§κ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ€. |
| Mean the one thing I would add to that, what Raj said, I mean, think there's been a lot of great work done over the last twelve to eighteen months in terms of really rightsizing the business, rightsizing the corporate infrastructure, and just instilling a very strong discipline around financial management, operational discipline to really create a lot more efficiency in terms of how we operate. And I think we're starting to see the benefits of that this year. And we're going to continue to look at ways how can we, as you scale a business, you have to operate very differently than you do when it's a small company. And I think we're instilling that discipline in the organization. | λΌμ§κ° λ§ν κ²μ λ§λΆμ΄μλ©΄, μ§λ 12κ°μμμ 18κ°μ λμ μ¬μ κ·λͺ¨λ₯Ό μ μ ννκ³ , κΈ°μ μΈνλΌλ₯Ό μ μ ννλ©°, μ¬λ¬΄ κ΄λ¦¬μ μ΄μ κ·μ¨μ λν λ§€μ° κ°λ ₯ν μμΉμ ν립νμ¬ μ΄μ λ°©μμ ν¨μ¨μ±μ ν¬κ² λμ΄λ λ° μμ΄ μ λ§ νλ₯ν μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό κ±°λμλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ¬ν΄ λ€μ΄ κ·Έλ¬ν λ Έλ ₯μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό 보기 μμνκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μμΌλ‘λ κ³μν΄μ λ°©λ²μ λͺ¨μν΄ λκ° κ²μ λλ€. μ¬μ μ νμ₯ν λλ μκ·λͺ¨ νμ¬μΌ λμλ λ§€μ° λ€λ₯΄κ² μ΄μν΄μΌ ν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ°λ¦¬λ μ‘°μ§μ κ·Έλ¬ν κ·μ¨μ ν립νκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| Speaker 2: We're seeing those benefits. And you know, as Raj mentioned, we built out a structure in The U. S. That was quite expensive. We have top talent and putting together the best infrastructure, while at the same time you know, reducing a lot of expenses. Speaker 2: So it really didn't have a material impact. And I think as we continue to grow from a revenue standpoint, higher margin products as well as higher margin markets, I think that's what's really driving that mix. | νμ 2: μ ν¬λ κ·Έλ¬ν ννλ€μ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ Rajκ° μΈκΈνλ―μ΄, μ ν¬λ λ―Έκ΅μμ μλΉν λΉμ©μ΄ λ§μ΄ λλ ꡬ쑰λ₯Ό ꡬμΆνμ΅λλ€. μ ν¬λ μ΅κ³ μ μΈμ¬λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μμΌλ©° μ΅μμ μΈνλΌλ₯Ό ꡬμΆνλ λμμ, λ§μ λΉμ©μ μ κ°νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. νμ 2: λ°λΌμ μ€μ§μ μΌλ‘ μ€λν μν₯μ μμμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ ν¬κ° λ§€μΆ κ΄μ μμ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μ±μ₯νλ©΄μ, λ λμ λ§μ§μ μ νλ€κ³Ό λ λμ λ§μ§μ μμ₯λ€μ΄ μ€μ λ‘ κ·Έλ¬ν λ―Ήμ€λ₯Ό 견μΈνκ³ μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. |
| So I think it's, as Raj said, mean, it's really a combination both of revenue driven in higher profitable higher gross margin markets and products as well as how we're being very disciplined in how we manage our expenses. Speaker 1: And you referenced this, that mixed flywheel should stay kind of in your favor for a long time here with The U. S. And EMEA and all these things that are coming. I know you haven't really committed to this on an annual basis, but could you talk about kind of the quantum of margin expansion that we could expect year in and year out? | λ°λΌμ λΌμ§κ° λ§νλ―μ΄, μ΄λ μ€μ λ‘ λ λμ μμ΅μ±κ³Ό λ λμ μ΄λ§μ§μ κ°μ§ μμ₯κ³Ό μ νμμμ λ§€μΆ μ¦κ°μ λΉμ© κ΄λ¦¬μ λν μ°λ¦¬μ μ격ν μ κ·Ό λ°©μμ΄ κ²°ν©λ κ²°κ³ΌλΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 1: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λΉμ μ΄ μΈκΈν λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ΄λ¬ν λ―Ήμ€ νλΌμ΄ν μ λ―Έκ΅κ³Ό EMEA κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μμΌλ‘ λ€κ°μ¬ λͺ¨λ κ²λ€κ³Ό ν¨κ» μ€λ«λμ λΉμ λ€μκ² μ 리νκ² μμ©ν κ²μΌλ‘ 보μ λλ€. μ°κ° κΈ°μ€μΌλ‘λ μμ§ νμ μ μΌλ‘ μ½μνμ§ μμΌμ κ²μΌλ‘ μκ³ μμ§λ§, λ§€λ κΈ°λν μ μλ λ§μ§ νλμ κ·λͺ¨μ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μλμ? |
| And you're still a growing company, so how do you balance the desire to deliver leverage and earnings growth with investments that you want to make to continue to grow the top line? Speaker 3: Well, so this year, have committed to two two hundred to 300 basis points of gross margin expansion, right? And again, we feel very comfortable with that outlook. We saw a nice margin expansion even in the first quarter. And as The U. S. Speaker 3: Continues to build over the course of the year, that's what's going to drive that number higher. We haven't given much beyond that. But as you noted, you look at what is coming in terms of Preserve, MIA, Recon, continue to grow in The U. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ¬μ ν μ±μ₯νλ νμ¬μ΄μ λ°, λ λ²λ¦¬μ§μ μμ΅ μ±μ₯μ λ¬μ±νκ³ μ νλ μꡬμ μ΅κ³ λ§€μΆ μ±μ₯μ μ§μνκΈ° μν΄ ν¬μνκ³ μ νλ λΆλΆ μ¬μ΄μ κ· νμ μ΄λ»κ² λ§μΆκ³ κ³μ κ°μ? νμ 3: μ, μ¬ν΄ μ ν¬λ μ΄λ§μ§μ 200~300bp νλνκ² λ€κ³ μ½μνμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ€μ λ§μλ리μ§λ§, μ ν¬λ μ΄λ¬ν μ λ§μ λν΄ λ§€μ° νμ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. 1λΆκΈ°μλ μνΈν λ§μ§ νλλ₯Ό 보μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ―Έκ΅μ΄ μ°μ€ κ³μν΄μ μ±μ₯ν΄ λκ°λ©΄μ, κ·Έκ²μ΄ λ°λ‘ κ·Έ μμΉλ₯Ό λ λμ΄ λμ΄μ¬λ¦΄ λλ ₯μ΄ λ κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έ μ΄μμ λν΄μλ λ§μ κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό μ μνμ§ μμμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ λ§μνμ λ°μ κ°μ΄, Preserve, MIA, Recon μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μμΌλ‘ λ€κ°μ¬ κ²λ€μ 보면, λ―Έκ΅μμ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μ±μ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. |
| S, these are all margin accretive endeavors for us, right? And so there should be a continued tailwind to our gross margin over the next several years. Speaker 1: Raj, maybe talk about balancing that with growth. Speaker 3: Yes. So I think the balance there is, as Peter noted and I tried to highlight as well, I mean, achieving these profitability targets for us are kind of nonnegotiable in a way, right? I mean, we will get to be EBITDA positive this year and we'll achieve cash flow breakeven next year. These are things that are as important to us as driving the top line. | μ΄λ¬ν λͺ¨λ μ¬μ
λ€μ μ°λ¦¬μκ² λ§μ§ μ¦λ ν¨κ³Όλ₯Ό κ°μ Έλ€μ£Όλ μ¬μ
λ€μ
λλ€. λ°λΌμ ν₯ν λͺ λ
κ° μ°λ¦¬μ λ§€μΆμ΄μ΄μ΅λ₯ μ μ§μμ μΈ μνμ΄ λ κ²μ
λλ€. λ°νμ 1: Raj, κ·Έκ²μ μ±μ₯κ³Ό κ· ν λ§μΆλ κ²μ λν΄ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? λ°νμ 3: λ€. κ·Έ κ· νμ λν΄μλ, Peterκ° μΈκΈνκ³ μ κ° κ°μ‘°νλ €κ³ νλ λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ΄λ¬ν μμ΅μ± λͺ©ν λ¬μ±μ μ°λ¦¬μκ² μ΄λ€ λ©΄μμλ νμ λΆκ°λ₯ν μ¬μμ λλ€. μ¦, μ°λ¦¬λ μ¬ν΄ EBITDA νμλ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μ΄κ³ λ΄λ μλ νκΈνλ¦ μμ΅λΆκΈ°μ μ λ¬μ±ν κ²μ λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν κ²λ€μ λ§€μΆ μ±μ₯μ μΆμ§νλ κ²λ§νΌμ΄λ μ°λ¦¬μκ² μ€μν μ¬μλ€μ λλ€. |
| And so we honestly hope to be in a position where we have to make those kind of decisions as to what we want to invest and where we want to let to flow through, but we need to cross those lines first. Speaker 3: Those are really kind of hard targets for us and we expect to achieve them. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, Matt, it's all about choices when you're running the business. I think, you know, to use an example when you asked regarding China, I mean, we could have gone direct and there's a lot of resources tied to that, but these are choices you make to kind of say, all right, you have limited resources, where are you going to effectively allocate that? | κ·Έλμ μμ§ν λ§μλ리면, μ ν¬λ μ΄λμ ν¬μν μ§, μ΄λλ‘ μκΈμ νλ €λ³΄λΌμ§μ λν κ·Έλ° μ’
λ₯μ κ²°μ μ λ΄λ €μΌ νλ μμΉμ μκΈ°λ₯Ό ν¬λ§ν©λλ€. νμ§λ§ λ¨Όμ κ·Έ κΈ°μ€μ λ€μ λμ΄μμΌ ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 3: μ΄κ²λ€μ μ ν¬μκ² μ λ§λ‘ νκ³ ν λͺ©νλ€μ΄λ©°, μ ν¬λ μ΄λ₯Ό λ¬μ±ν κ²μΌλ‘ κΈ°λν©λλ€. λ°νμ 2: λ€, λ§·, μ¬μ μ μ΄μν λλ λͺ¨λ κ²μ΄ μ νμ λ¬Έμ λΌκ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. μ€κ΅μ κ΄ν΄ μ§λ¬Ένμ κ²μ μλ‘ λ€λ©΄, μ ν¬λ μ§μ μ§μΆν μλ μμκ³ κ·Έμλ λ§μ μμμ΄ ν¬μ λμ΄μΌ νκ² μ§λ§, μ΄λ° κ²λ€μ μ¬λ¬λΆμ΄ λ΄λ¦¬λ μ νμ λλ€. μ¦, νμ λ μμμ κ°μ§κ³ μμ λ μ΄λμ ν¨κ³Όμ μΌλ‘ λ°°λΆν κ²μΈκ° νλ μ ν λ§μ λλ€. |
| And where can you benefit from that, you know, make a different decision later on? So I think that I don't think there's been any situation that we've actually reduced investment and something that we believe is a key priority to drive the business. And that's why I think we've been very selective in terms of how we do manage our expenses. Speaker 2: And it really, as I said before, it really boils down to choices, but you have to make those choices. Speaker 1: Very good. Well, I think that's our time. But gentlemen, thanks so much for your time and thanks everybody for your interest in Establishment Thank you. | κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έλ° μν©μμ μ΄λ€ ννμ μ»μ μ μλμ§, λμ€μ λ€λ₯Έ κ²°μ μ λ΄λ¦΄ μ μλμ§ λ§μ΄μ£ . λ°λΌμ μ λ μ¬μ
μ μΆμ§νλ ν΅μ¬ μ°μ μμλΌκ³ μκ°νλ λΆμΌμμ μ€μ λ‘ ν¬μλ₯Ό μ€μΈ μν©μ μμλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. κ·Έλμ μ°λ¦¬κ° λΉμ© κ΄λ¦¬ λ°©μμ μμ΄μ λ§€μ° μ λ³μ μΌλ‘ μ κ·Όν΄μλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 2: κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μμ λ§μλλ¦° λ°μ κ°μ΄, μ΄λ μ λ§λ‘ μ νμ λ¬Έμ λ‘ κ·κ²°λμ§λ§, κ·Έλ° μ νμ ν΄μΌ ν©λλ€. λ°νμ 1: μμ£Ό μ’μ΅λλ€. μκ°μ΄ λ€ λ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ λ λΆκ»μ μκ°μ λ΄μ£Όμ μ κ°μ¬νκ³ , Establishmentμ κ΄μ¬μ κ°μ Έμ£Όμ λͺ¨λ λΆλ€κ» κ°μ¬λ립λλ€. κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. |
Here's a Korean summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript:
β’ μ€μ λ° κ°μ΄λλΌμΈ
- 2025λ
λ§€μΆ κ°μ΄λλΌμΈ $205-210M (μ λ
λλΉ μ½ 25% μ±μ₯)
- λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμμ κ°ν μ±κ³Όλ‘ κ°μ΄λλΌμΈ μν₯ κ°λ₯μ± μμ¬
- 2025λ
λ§κΉμ§ EBITDA νμμ ν, 2026λ
μ€ νκΈνλ¦ νμ λ¬μ± λͺ©ν
β’ λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯ μ§μΆ νν©
- 900κ° μ΄μμ κ±°λμ² ν보, μ νκ· 100κ° μ κ· κ±°λμ² μΆκ° μ€
- κ²½μμ¬ λλΉ ν리미μ κ°κ²© μ±
μ μλ μμ₯ μ μ μ¨ νλ
- μ
κ³ μ΅κ³ μμ€μ μμ
μ‘°μ§ κ΅¬μΆμΌλ‘ μμ₯ μΉ¨ν¬ κ°μν
β’ μ ν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ λ° νμ΄νλΌμΈ
- Miaμ Preservae λ± μ΅μ μΉ¨μ΅ μ νκ΅°μ΄ μμ₯ νλ 견μΈ
- ν₯ν 2-3λ
κ° μ¬κ±΄μ© μνλνΈ, Ergo 2 λ± μ£Όμ μ μ ν μΆμ μμ
- λμ μμ μ±κ³Ό νμ μ κΈ°μ λ ₯μ΄ ν΅μ¬ κ²½μλ ₯μΌλ‘ μμ©
⒠리μ€ν¬ μμΈ
- κ±°μκ²½μ λΆνμ€μ±μ λ°λ₯Έ μλΉμ μ§μΆ κ°μ κ°λ₯μ±
- μ€κ΅, λΈλΌμ§ λ± μΌλΆ μ ν₯μμ₯μμμ μ±μ₯ μ§μ°
- κ²½μμ¬λ€μ κ°κ²© μΈν μλ° κ°λ₯μ±
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| Question-and-Answer Session | μ§μμλ΅ μκ° |
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- μ£Όμ μ¬λ¬΄ μ§ν
- κ°μ΄λμ€ μ
λ°μ΄νΈ
- κ²½μμ§μ ν€
- μ μ¬μ 리μ€ν¬μ κ°μ