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Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. Jefferies London Healthcare Conference 2025 Transcript

Matt Taylor: I'm Matt Taylor, the U.S. Medical Supplies and Devices Analyst here at Jefferies, and pleased to be joined by the management team from Establishment Labs. Our [right] is Peter Caldini, the CEO, and Raj Denhoy, the CFO. We'll have about 25 minutes here for a fireside chat with no fire. Maybe just to kick things off, a lot of these meetings, the general meetings here, there are some folks who are newer to the story. Matt Taylor: Sure. Matt Taylor: I always want to start with a couple of high-level questions.
# Establishment Labs Holdings Inc. ์ œํผ๋ฆฌ์Šค ๋Ÿฐ๋˜ ํ—ฌ์Šค์ผ€์–ด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค 2025 ๋…น์ทจ๋ก

Matt Taylor: ์ €๋Š” ์ œํผ๋ฆฌ์Šค์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์˜๋ฃŒ์šฉํ’ˆ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ Matt Taylor์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Establishment Labs์˜ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์—๋Š” CEO์ธ Peter Caldini์™€ CFO์ธ Raj Denhoy๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ 25๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ถˆ ์—†๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ณ€์ •๋‹ด(fireside chat) ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์•ž์„œ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฏธํŒ…๋“ค, ํŠนํžˆ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๋ฏธํŒ…์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ ‘ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋„ค.

Matt Taylor: ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maybe you could just give us a little bit of an overview of the company, the portfolio, how it was founded, and sort of your central thesis in terms of why you think you can be a market leader in the women's health and breast augmentation space. Peter Caldini: Yeah, so Establishment Labs is a global medtech company really dedicated to advancing women's health in breast aesthetics and reconstruction. We're in 90 countries around the world. We just entered the U.S. after FDA approval, so this is our first year. We have a lot of success so far in the U.S. We're very happy with our progress.ํšŒ์‚ฌ, ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค, ์„ค๋ฆฝ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฐ ์œ ๋ฐฉ ํ™•๋Œ€ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ ๋„ ๊ธฐ์—…์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋…ผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋žตํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, Establishment Labs๋Š” ์œ ๋ฐฉ ๋ฏธ์šฉ ๋ฐ ์žฌ๊ฑด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์ฆ์ง„์— ์ „๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์˜๋ฃŒ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ 90๊ฐœ๊ตญ์— ์ง„์ถœํ•ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. FDA ์Šน์ธ ์ดํ›„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋ง‰ ์ง„์ž…ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜ฌํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์ฒซ ํ•ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ง„์ „ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think what really differentiates ourselves and why we are a market leader around the world is we have the best implants in the industry. That's, you know, from a safety standpoint. It's also from a performance standpoint. You know, if you look at some of the technology, the proprietary SmoothSilk surface, it enhances biocompatibility. It also reduces inflammation. You end up having and you're seeing a much better safety profile, which we saw in a lot of the FDA studies. Peter Caldini: We have less than 1% device-related implications versus a competitive set that is

far superior to what exists in the market. We have a very broad product portfolio. I think in the

U.S.
์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๋ณ„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ฆฌ๋”๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์—…๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ๋…์ž์ ์ธ SmoothSilk ํ‘œ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ์ƒ์ฒด์ ํ•ฉ์„ฑ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์—ผ์ฆ์„ ๊ฐ์†Œ์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ ํ”„๋กœํŒŒ์ผ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ FDA ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ๊ด€๋ จ ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์ฆ์ด 1% ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์ธ ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด, ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ ์ œํ’ˆ๊ตฐ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
right now, we just have Ergo One and also the Round and also the Tissue Expander. That is just the beginning, the basis for our launch. We have and we've been a leader in innovation, and we have a number of products coming to the U.S. market that we have outside the U.S. We are going to be launching our minimally invasive portfolio with Preserv . That is going to be in Q1 next year in the U.S. We are also going to have the small sizes approved, which can expand our matrix. We are going to be looking at launching the Recon Indication. We are going to have that submitted at the end of this year. Peter Caldini: We will see how long it takes with the FDA.ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Ergo One๊ณผ Round, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Tissue Expander๋งŒ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ์ž‘์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ถœ์‹œ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ˜์‹ ์˜ ์„ ๋‘์ฃผ์ž์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ Preserv์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์†Œํ˜• ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ผ์ธ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฌ๊ฑด(Recon) ์ ์‘์ฆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋ง์— ์ œ์ถœํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: FDA ์Šน์ธ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We have a huge portfolio of tremendous opportunities in the U.S., and we are going to continue to roll out that portfolio and take advantage of that momentum we have already started. Matt Taylor: Maybe I'll start by, you know, talking about how the company's grown. You gained pretty dominant share in a lot of international markets over time. Obviously, the U.S. is the biggest market in this area. I guess I was wondering if you could try to reflect on how the high market shares you've gained in some of these international countries could be mirrored in the
U.S. experience over time.
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋œ ๋ฐฉ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ „๊ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋ฏธ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋จผ์ € ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•ด์™”๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ง€๋ฐฐ์ ์ธ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€, ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ•ด์™ธ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์—์„œ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜์‹  ๋†’์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์ด ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋„ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์žฌํ˜„๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Peter Caldini: Yeah, I think when you look at what we've been able to do in the OUS markets, I think that the first thing it really starts, as I mentioned before, having a superior implant, you know, from the safety profile, from also from the performance standpoint. We're also leading in terms of the innovation. We're constantly coming out with new products, new technologies. When we talk about the minimally invasive, that really helps to drive our growth. We're also, as a business, fully dedicated to breast implants. I think a lot of our competitors have, when you look at the U.S., they have other types of businesses that they're prioritizing. This is all we do.ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃฌ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋‚˜ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ํ˜์‹  ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ์„ ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ์‹ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ์†Œ ์นจ์Šต ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—…์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ฐฉ ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ์—๋งŒ ์ „๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ์—…๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์˜ค์ง ์ด๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Peter Caldini: You know, we're constantly looking at different ways to innovate in the industry, and you see that come into market, and that really helps drive our performance in a number of markets that we're in. Matt Taylor: The U.S. has gone well so far. I guess I was wondering if you could comment on how that's compared to your expectations. You mentioned kind of a big slate of, you know, matrix expansion next year and Recon. Could we actually see the U.S. growth accelerate next year with that? Peter Caldini: Yeah, I mean, I think, as I mentioned before, we're very pleased with the progress we had in the U.S. You know, right now we're up to 1,300 accounts.Peter Caldini: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ํ˜์‹ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ถœํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋‚ด๋…„์— ๋งคํŠธ๋ฆญ์Šค ํ™•์žฅ๊ณผ Recon ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋…„์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์ง„์ „์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” 1,300๊ฐœ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๊นŒ์ง€ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We continue to add more accounts every day. The utilization rate continues to increase in those accounts. We're very pleased. We keep on seeing it as we go into Q4. Also, the number of daily orders continues to pick up. We are seeing an acceleration going into Q4, and that's going to lead into next year. We're also going to build on that. You know, I think we mentioned in the last earnings call we're going to be adding additional up to 15 reps to continue to drive that growth next year. We also have some of the innovation in terms of, you know, Preserv launching at the end of Q1.์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ„์ •์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ณ„์ •๋“ค์˜ ํ™œ์šฉ๋ฅ ๋„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ ‘์–ด๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์† ์ด์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ผ์ผ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฑด์ˆ˜๋„ ๊ณ„์† ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ง„์ž…๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‚ด๋…„์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋”์šฑ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ๋‚ด๋…„ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ตœ๋Œ€ 15๋ช…์˜ ์˜์—… ๋‹ด๋‹น์ž๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง์— Preserv ์ถœ์‹œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ˜์‹ ์ ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Peter Caldini: We've done, we had some early experienced surgeons, about 36 in Costa Rica, where they got trained on it. They've been able to start using that product. It gives us a lot of learnings, and, you know, what we've seen has been very positive. That is going to help build that momentum. We're also going to get the matrix, complete matrix, at the beginning of next year. I think when you look at from an innovation standpoint with Preserv , it's just going to be starting the super cycle of innovation that's going to lead into 2027 and beyond. When you talk about the Recon Indication, we're going to be looking at getting approval on Ergo Two, which leads to the Mia launch as well.ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฝ”์Šคํƒ€๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ ์•ฝ 36๋ช…์˜ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜๋“ค์„ ๋Œ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ต์œก์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•ด๋‹น ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๋‚ด๋…„ ์ดˆ์— ์™„์ „ํ•œ ๋งคํŠธ๋ฆญ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Preserv์˜ ํ˜์‹  ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ 2027๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ํ˜์‹ ์˜ ์Šˆํผ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฌ๊ฑด(Recon) ์ ์‘์ฆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, Ergo Two์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” Mia ์ถœ์‹œ๋กœ๋„ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Peter Caldini: We have a lot of runway to grow just even on our base business, but we're going to continue to layer over innovation and continue to fuel that growth. We are very positive in terms of the momentum we have right now, and that's going to continue into 2026 and beyond. Matt Taylor: Could you just remind us sort of where your U.S. market share sits now, what you said about the exit rate for this year, and ultimately where you think that share could go?Peter Caldini: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์‚ฌ์—…๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ํ˜์‹ ์„ ๋”ํ•ด๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 2026๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€, ์˜ฌํ•ด ์—ฐ๋ง ์‹œ์ ์˜ ์ ์œ ์œจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ ์œ ์œจ์ด ์–ด๋””๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
Peter Caldini: Yeah, I mean, I think what we communicated in the last call, you know, we expect it to be finishing the year at a run rate of about 20% market share, which I think when you, you know, you look at that over 12 months, I think it's pretty impressive in terms of how we've been able to really penetrate the market. I think that's a real testament to, you know, our ability to penetrate the number of accounts, but also the quality of the product and also a lot of the communication and marketing that we've been able to do. You know, I think it's very unique in this industry where patients are walking into and talking to surgeons and asking specifically for Motiva.ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ๋„ค, ์ง€๋‚œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฐ๋ง์— ์•ฝ 20%์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 12๊ฐœ์›”์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์นจํˆฌํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ธ์ƒ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด์˜จ ๋งŽ์€ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆ์ผ€์ด์…˜๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ํ™œ๋™์˜ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋ณ‘์›์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด์„œ ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจํ‹ฐ๋ฐ” ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think that's really been able to help drive that penetration, and I think it's also been
able to increase the utilization rate. Peter Caldini: Going into next year, I think we're going to continue to see that growth. You know, while it's hard to predict what that market share is going to be next year, we're going to continue to see strong growth, you know, not only in 2026, but also beyond. Matt Taylor: You touched on Mia and Preserv . It might be worth going deeper on those products. You know, very innovative approaches, minimally invasive. You're starting to have some success there internationally.
์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ ์นจํˆฌ์œจ์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋˜ํ•œ ํ™œ์šฉ๋ฅ ์„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ๋‚ด๋…„์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋งŒ, 2026๋…„๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: Mia์™€ Preserv์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ณผ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ํ˜์‹ ์ ์ธ ์ ‘๊ทผ๋ฒ•์ด๊ณ , ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ์ฃ .
Can you also remind us what you've said about the contributions from those this year and next, and then maybe give us a flavor for, you know, why they're so different and how that's kind of changing the game in breast aesthetics? Raj Denhoy: Yeah, I can take that one. Mia is the, so we've given some guidelines around what

we expect Mia to do this year, which is $8 million-$10 million. Next year we've talked about the minimally invasive portfolio in total, which is Mia and Preserv , doing at least $30 million. We are seeing very strong adoption of these products. I think at the core of them, what they really bring to market is this concept of breast tissue preservation.
๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Mia์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์˜ฌํ•ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ ๋งค์ถœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ 800๋งŒ~1,000๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„์—๋Š” ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค ์ „์ฒด, ์ฆ‰ Mia์™€ Preserv๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์ณ ์ตœ์†Œ 3,000๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์ฑ„ํƒ๋ฅ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋Š” ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์œ ๋ฐฉ ์กฐ์ง ๋ณด์กด์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Being able to do a breast augmentation procedure with minimal disruption to the native breast tissue. Mia is the kind of, you know, at the upper end of what we offer. It's trans-axillary. There's no visible scars on the breast. It comes to the underarm. It uses the balloon technology. It has an injector device. Preserv uses a lot of those same tools. Raj Denhoy: It uses the balloon, but it's done through a standard IMF approach. It's a bit more of a flexible procedure for the surgeon. Both of them offer, again, minimal tissue disruption, faster recovery, in most cases, no need for general anesthesia.์ตœ์†Œํ•œ์˜ ์ž์—ฐ ์œ ๋ฐฉ ์กฐ์ง ์†์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ฐฉ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์ˆ˜์ˆ ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Mia๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ ์ค‘ ์ƒ์œ„๊ธ‰์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์•ก์™€(trans-axillary) ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ฐฉ์— ๋ˆˆ์— ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ํ‰ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒจ๋“œ๋ž‘์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹œ์ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ’์„  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ฃผ์ž… ์žฅ์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Preserv๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Raj Denhoy: ํ’์„ ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ‘œ์ค€ IMF(์œ ๋ฐฉํ•˜์ฃผ๋ฆ„, inframammary fold) ์ ‘๊ทผ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ๋” ์œ ์—ฐํ•œ ์‹œ์ˆ  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ์˜ ์กฐ์ง ์†์ƒ, ๋น ๋ฅธ ํšŒ๋ณต, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ „์‹  ๋งˆ์ทจ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š” ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์žฅ์ ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It has really moved the industry in a whole new direction, and the adoption among surgeons, the belief in the technologies, has been really, it's happened really quickly. Matt Taylor: You know, a long time ago when you first introduced Mia, there was a focus on the market expansion that we could see from that, and you talked about expanding the market, you know, up to double, right, 50% at least. It seems like you're starting to see some of that play out. Can you talk about how that's playing out in the real world in terms of the folks who have chosen to get Mia, and do you still think it could be on that order of magnitude of market expansion?๋งคํŠธ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ: ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ „ Mia๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜์…จ์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”์…จ๊ณ , ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์ตœ์†Œ 50%, ์ฆ‰ ์ตœ๋Œ€ 2๋ฐฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Mia๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ ํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ „๊ฐœ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ ์ •๋„ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”?
Peter Caldini: Yeah, I mean, I think it, you know, when we look at Mia, you know, as Raj says, it's also Preserv , the whole minimally invasive portfolio. I think that the benefits, the fact that for, you know, women, it's no general anesthesia, the ability to have quicker recovery time, I think that's really creating an environment where it has a tremendous opportunity to grow the market. When we first launched Mia, we really saw that as a market expanding, and it has been

doing that. You know, 40% of the women that do that procedure say they were not considering any type of breast augmentation, so its ability to do that.
ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”, Mia๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ผ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด Preserv๋„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ ์ „์ฒด ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ „์‹ ๋งˆ์ทจ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š” ์—†๊ณ  ํšŒ๋ณต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š” ์žฅ์ ๋“ค์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์„ ์กฐ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ˜์Œ Mia๋ฅผ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์ œํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋ดค๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด ์‹œ์ˆ ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์˜ 40%๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์œ ๋ฐฉํ™•๋Œ€์ˆ ๋„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‹ตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
When you launch also Preserv , it can be used in more cases, as Raj highlighted. That continues to open up the opportunity to expand the market. We're seeing that in Europe. Peter Caldini: You know, a lot of the success we've had in our direct markets has been attributed to the growth in Preserv . It's been able for us to not only increase the number of accounts that we're in, but also those accounts are seeing higher productivity as well. Matt Taylor: Related to the U.S. and your MIS portfolio are pretty powerful mixed tailwinds. Congratulations on being EBITDA positive. Crossing the Rubicon there is a big deal. You have said, you know, next year to go cash flow positive is a stated goal.์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋ฉด Raj๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ก€์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ด์–ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์ง์ ‘ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋‘” ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ๊ณต์€ Preserv์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ถœํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋“ค์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ๋„ ๋†’์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ท€์‚ฌ์˜ MIS ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ฏน์Šค ์ˆœํ’์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EBITDA ํ‘์ž ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฃจ๋น„์ฝ˜ ๊ฐ•์„ ๊ฑด๋„Œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„์— ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ํ‘์ž ์ „ํ™˜์ด ๋ช…์‹œ๋œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Maybe you could help describe, you know, as the U.S. minimally invasive and maybe China picks up here as well, you know, how creative they can be to drive gross margins and then what you are going to do with that margin expansion. Are you going to drop it through? You know, how much are you still investing? Raj Denhoy: Yeah, I think we've talked for a long time about the U.S. being, you know, the big engine for us for a period of time, right, and not only driving the revenue growth, which we're seeing in terms of the adoption, but also the margin profile, as you described, right?๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ํšŒ๋ณต์ด ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ™•๋Œ€๋œ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?

Raj Denhoy: ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ƒ๋‹น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฑ„ํƒ๋ฅ  ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ตฌ์กฐ ๊ฐœ์„  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We have commented that, you know, for us to make an implant for the United States versus make an implant for any place around the world, the cost of manufacturing is essentially the same. The realized price in the United States is more than twice our average outside the United States. That mixed tailwind, you've seen it on the gross margin line, where a year ago we were in the kind of mid to high 60s. In the third quarter, we crossed 70%. That will continue as the U.S. Raj Denhoy: becomes a larger portion of the mix. You also mentioned things like minimally

invasive. You know, these are also higher margin products for us. There is a tailwind on our gross profitability.
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ œ์กฐ ์›๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋™์ผํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์‹คํ˜„ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ ํ‰๊ท  ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฏน์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, 1๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š” 60% ์ค‘ํ›„๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” 70%๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„ฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ๋งค์ถœ ๋ฏน์Šค์—์„œ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์ค‘์ด ์ปค์งˆ์ˆ˜๋ก ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Raj Denhoy: ๋˜ํ•œ ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.

์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋„ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋†’์€ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์—๋Š” ์ˆœํ’์ด ๋ถˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
When you look at our operating expenses below that, 2025 was a year of investment. You know, we essentially stood up the U.S. commercial operation. As you look into the next couple of years, we will make some incremental investments. As Peter described, we're going to add additional salespeople in the U.S. The investment is going to be at a much lower pace than our top-line growth. Essentially, every incremental dollar revenue we generate is going to drop through at a pretty significant incremental margin. I think as the next couple of years unfold, we will continue to invest in 2026, and we'll continue to invest beyond that.๊ทธ ์•„๋ž˜ ์˜์—…๋น„์šฉ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, 2025๋…„์€ ํˆฌ์ž์˜ ํ•ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ƒ์—… ์šด์˜ ์กฐ์ง์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ์ง„์ ์ธ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Peter๊ฐ€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜์—… ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํˆฌ์ž ์†๋„๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚ฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ถœ 1๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋†’์€ ์ฆ๋ถ„ ๋งˆ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด ์ „๊ฐœ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ, 2026๋…„์—๋„ ๊ณ„์† ํˆฌ์žํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๊ณ„์† ํˆฌ์žํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Raj Denhoy: The investment is going to be at a much lower rate than the top line. The profitability of this business is really going to start to emerge, I think, as we leave 2026 into 2027 and beyond. Peter Caldini: Yeah, just something to add to that as well. I mean, we look at our business as a portfolio, what geographies, what type of products, and that's how we prioritize. I mean, the resources are finite. You know, we look at obviously a lot of resources going to the U.S. because that's a key growth driver for us. We also talk about in our international markets really focusing on the direct markets. These are high-growth opportunities for us.๋ผ์ฆˆ ๋ดํ˜ธ์ด: ํˆฌ์ž ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์€ 2026๋…„์„ ์ง€๋‚˜ 2027๋…„ ์ดํ›„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ๋„ค, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์ง€์—ญ์—, ์–ด๋–ค ์ œํ’ˆ ์œ ํ˜•์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ• ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์›์€ ํ•œ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์›์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง์ ‘ ์ง„์ถœ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋†’์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We have much better economics in those markets. We've seen tremendous growth, you know, especially in Western Europe in our direct markets. Peter Caldini: We grew over 20% the last quarter, and that's coming after Q2, where we grew 27%. We are really making these decisions around the areas we can get the best ROI. We have a lot of discipline in terms of how we allocate resources, but it does not prevent us from
making the right investments and the substantial investments like we've done in the U.S. to make sure we achieve the opportunity that exists there. Matt Taylor: Maybe you could frame for us, you know, having stood up the U.S.
์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ์ง์ ‘ ์ง„์ถœ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 20% ์ด์ƒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” 27% ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋˜ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ด์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ํˆฌ์ž์ˆ˜์ต๋ฅ (ROI)์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์—ญ์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์› ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ์›์น™์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง‰์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์‹คํ˜„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ง„์ถœ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”...
organization, gone through a lot of your big studies, built a big new plant in Costa Rica recently, you know, over the next few years, what are sort of the big investments that you still need to make internally as far as whether it's capacity manufacturing, you know, regulatory or commercial? Peter Caldini: It's really not a lot. I mean, the infrastructure is there. I think, you know, when you look at our manufacturing facility, we have enough to kind of, I think, to meet the demands of, you know, three quarters of the market already. We do have the infrastructure in place.์กฐ์ง์„ ์ •๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ตœ๊ทผ ์ฝ”์Šคํƒ€๋ฆฌ์นด์— ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์‹ ๊ทœ ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ, ์ œ์กฐ, ๊ทœ์ œ ๋˜๋Š” ์ƒ์—…์  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ฃผ์š” ํˆฌ์ž๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Peter Caldini: ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ–์ถฐ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ์กฐ์‹œ์„ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฏธ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์•ฝ 3/4 ์ •๋„์˜ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Most of our investment will be in terms of, you know, in the commercial organizations to drive that growth, and in some cases also from a regulatory. I would say that the backbone and the infrastructure of the business, I think, is really well set. We do not have to look at incremental investments to support the growth. I think that's all in place. Most of our investment is going to be really to drive that top-line growth. Matt Taylor: Great. You referenced Recon, but can we talk about the importance of getting into Recon, maybe just the steps to get commercial there, and how could that complement your already growing tissue-expanding business?๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํˆฌ์ž๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์—… ์กฐ์ง์— ์ง‘์ค‘๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ๋Š” ๊ทœ์ œ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—๋„ ํˆฌ์žํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์šฐ ์ž˜ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ–์ถฐ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํˆฌ์ž๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง‘์ค‘๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Recon์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, Recon ์‹œ์žฅ ์ง„์ž…์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ƒ์šฉํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์กฐ์งํ™•์žฅ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ณผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‹œ๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Peter Caldini: Yeah, I mean, I think from a regulatory standpoint, you know, our plan is to do the PMA submission at the end of this year. You know, I think it will be very dependent on the FDA when we do get that approved. You're basically really doubling the market size in the U.S. And so far, I think with FLORA, our tissue expander, it's really enabled us to get into a number of hospitals. I think we're over 150 hospitals right now, but we're not really able to maximize the revenue potential until we do get the Recon Indication.ํ”ผํ„ฐ ์นผ๋””๋‹ˆ: ๋„ค, ๊ทœ์ œ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋ง์— PMA ์‹ ์ฒญ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. FDA ์Šน์ธ ์‹œ์ ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ FDA์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €ํฌ ์กฐ์ง ํ™•์žฅ๊ธฐ์ธ FLORA๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜์˜ ๋ณ‘์›์— ์ง„์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ 150๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๋ณ‘์›๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์žฌ๊ฑด ์ ์‘์ฆ(Recon Indication) ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ถœ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ทน๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think in order to fully leverage the opportunity, we're going to make, once we get that approval, make a sizable investment in expanding our sales force to make sure we have enough coverage to meet the opportunity in Recon. Raj Denhoy: I think importantly, I'll just add to that that what we will submit to the FDA by the end of this year is part of the original PMA we've already had approved. It was when we ran that study, we bifurcated the clinical piece into the augmentation cohort and then the reconstruction cohort. What the FDA needs to review now is that patient set. They don't need to re-review manufacturing. They don't have to re-review the implant. It is part of the original PMA.์ €๋Š” ์ด ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ์žฌ๊ฑด ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜์—… ์ธ๋ ฅ ํ™•๋Œ€์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Raj Denhoy: ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ ์„ ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด, ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ FDA์— ์ œ์ถœํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์Šน์ธ๋ฐ›์€ ์›๋ž˜ PMA์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์ž„์ƒ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ํ™•๋Œ€(augmentation) ์ฝ”ํ˜ธํŠธ์™€ ์žฌ๊ฑด(reconstruction) ์ฝ”ํ˜ธํŠธ๋กœ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ FDA๊ฐ€ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ํ™˜์ž๊ตฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ์กฐ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์žฌ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ณ , ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์žฌ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์›๋ž˜ PMA์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It's difficult, as Peter noted, to predict how long the FDA is going to take, but it shouldn't be considered a full PMA review that they need to do. Matt Taylor: Gotcha. They are open now, I think. Good news. I wanted to go back to maybe talking a little bit more about China. That was another big opportunity that you have outlined in the past, but it has been a little slow to start. Some of that, I think, is macro and working with your partner. Where are we now in China? Peter Caldini: Sure. Matt Taylor: How could that contribute next year, and do you expect to build on that in the future?ํ”ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด FDA๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ „์ฒด PMA ์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋˜์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ฌธ์ด ์—ด๋ ค์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š”. ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฐ ๊ธฐํšŒ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‹œ์ž‘์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋”๋”˜ ํŽธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ์š”์ธ๊ณผ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‚ฌ์™€์˜ ํ˜‘๋ ฅ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค.

Matt Taylor: ๋‚ด๋…„์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋”์šฑ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
Peter Caldini: Yeah, so I think, you know, as you highlighted, the macro environment in China is quite challenging. I think overall, when we look at our OUS markets, we do see stability across most of the markets. You know, I think China is probably the one exception from, you know, a macro standpoint that is impacting, you know, specifically breast augmentation. You know, in terms of the other piece of that is also building out the capabilities of our distributor. You know, we highlighted that that process has been, you know, a little bit slower than we would have expected. We've put a lot of resources and a lot of effort in terms of building out those capabilities.๋„ค, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์•ˆ์ •์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์œ ๋ฐฉํ™•๋Œ€์ˆ ์— ํŠนํžˆ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์˜ˆ์™ธ ์ผ€์ด์Šค๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธก๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์œ ํ†ต์—…์ฒด์˜ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋”๋””๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ตฌ์ถ•์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์›๊ณผ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
You know, we look at the last quarter, we've seen some good progress in terms of building out the capabilities, in terms of, you know, looking at the sellout. Peter Caldini: You know, we're very confident that China will reach the same, you know, level of market share that we have throughout Asia. I believe it will be contributing next year in terms of revenue. I think we're going in the right direction. I think also what is challenging for us, even when we build out the capabilities, the market is a little bit challenging right now. Matt Taylor: Gotcha.์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŒ๋งค ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์ „์—ญ์—์„œ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„์—๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์— ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ ์€, ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The other thing that we've seen internationally in the past is there's been some areas where you've gained a lot of market share and you've actually seen the bigger competitors pull back, pull out of the markets, retract. Are you continuing to see that, and could we see that happen ultimately in the U.S. or China, for example? Peter Caldini: Yeah, I think when you, you know, it's kind of hard to predict what the competitors are going to do. But, you know, when you look at, let's say, the two largest competitors in the U.S., when it's Allergan or AbbVie and J&J, and you look at their portfolio, I mean, these are not, you know, segments that are priorities for them.๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ฒ ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ํ›„ํ‡ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ๊ณ„์†๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด๋‚˜ ์ค‘๊ตญ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ• ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์–‘๋Œ€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ์ธ Allergan ๋˜๋Š” AbbVie์™€ J&J๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And, you know, as we continue to drive growth in the U.S., continue to gain share, you know, I think it makes that business for them less relevant and less of a necessity to maintain. I think there's always that potential. You know, we're going to continue to drive growth in the U.S., and I think by doing that, it's going to put pressure, and they're going to have to make those strategic decisions. Doesn't make sense. Peter Caldini: If you do look at, and having worked in a lot of these big multinationals, that's a common, you know, that's a common process. At a certain point, they're going to get to the level where it doesn't make sense to maintain the business.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ๊ณ„์† ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์ ์  ๋” ๊ด€๋ จ์„ฑ์ด ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ํ•„์š”์„ฑ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์••๋ฐ•์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ „๋žต์  ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๋‹ค๊ตญ์  ๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค์—์„œ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ”ํ•œ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋А ์‹œ์ ์— ์ด๋ฅด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
When that happens, I don't know, but, you know, I think that could be a reality. Matt Taylor: I guess going back to international, you know, I think with the success you've had so far in the U.S., you've convinced a lot of investors that you're going to be a big player there. What about your ability to continue to drive growth in international, broadly speaking, where there has also been sort of a tough macro environment for a few years? Peter Caldini: Yeah, I think overall, I think the macro environment has been stable, as I mentioned. I think there are certain areas where you have good growth from a market standpoint, but there are some challenges. We highlighted China.๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์–ธ์ œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ํ•ด์™ธ ์‚ฌ์—…์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋‘” ์„ฑ๊ณต์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํฐ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ์„ ์ฃผ์…จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์ง€์†๋˜์–ด ์˜จ ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „๋ฐ˜์—์„œ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์€ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์ง€์—ญ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ผ๋ถ€ ์–ด๋ ค์›€๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
You know, for us, we're very pleased with the progress we made this year in our OUS markets. We made a strategic decision to really focus on the direct markets. You know, these are markets, these are the larger markets. You know, when you talk about Western Europe, we have much better revenue potential. You know, we've dedicated a lot of resources, and we reallocate a lot of our
resources from distributor markets to direct markets to really take advantage of the opportunities. In these markets, we have much better economics. You know, we've seen a lot of success. You know, I mentioned before the growth rates in Western Europe, 20% growth.
์ €ํฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ํ•ด์™ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃฌ ์ง„์ „์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง์ ‘ ์‹œ์žฅ(direct markets)์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ „๋žต์  ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์‹œ์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์„ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋งค์ถœ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์›์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์œ ํ†ต์—…์ฒด ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ์‹œ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์›์„ ๋Œ€ํญ ์žฌ๋ฐฐ์น˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์€ 20%์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Peter Caldini: You know, we're stealing share in a lot of these markets. We've been adding a number of accounts in Western Europe. We've added about 10% across all our direct markets. Preserve and the minimally invasive platform is really helping drive a lot of that growth. You know, for me, that's going to be, you know, a key growth driver for us. It's going to help drive the profitability as well. You know, I think we've made a lot of good traction so far, and that's going to continue in Q4 all the way through 2026 and beyond. Matt Taylor: Maybe we'll end on a few questions on the pipeline. You've always described yourselves as a women's health company.Peter Caldini: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ๋นผ์•—์•„ ์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง์ ‘ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์•ฝ 10%๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Preserve์™€ ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์—๋„ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งŽ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์„ ์ด๋ฃจ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋‚ด๋‚ด 2026๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think a lot of investors don't even know about JEM. Maybe we could start by talking about the JEM program, you know, where that is and what kind of an opportunity that could be in the future. Peter Caldini: Yeah, you know, I think we don't talk about it a lot because we have so much

close in. You know, when I think you look at the breast augmentation, the Recon Indication in the U.S., I think for JEM, that's a later down pipeline opportunity. I think it could be a very sizable opportunity. We're going to be first looking at launching that in Latin America, probably around late 2026, 2027. A lot of this is going to be dependent on the regulatory pathways in the
U.S. and also in Europe.
๋งŽ์€ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋ถ„๋“ค์ด JEM์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. JEM ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋А ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ–ฅํ›„ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€์š”.

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ JEM์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹น์žฅ ๋ˆˆ์•ž์˜ ๊ณผ์ œ๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋ฐฉํ™•๋Œ€์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ์žฌ๊ฑด์ˆ  ์ ์‘์ฆ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, JEM์€ ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ์ƒ ํ›„์ˆœ์œ„ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„  2026๋…„ ๋ง์—์„œ 2027๋…„๊ฒฝ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ ๋จผ์ € ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ๊ทœ์ œ ์Šน์ธ ๊ฒฝ๋กœ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ขŒ์šฐ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think in Latin America, it's going to be a little bit easier. I think that's going to be really after really leveraging and utilizing the opportunities we have in terms of the breast augmentation space. That's going to be something that's going to really fuel the growth in 2028 and beyond. Matt Taylor: Could you describe what JEM is, the value proposition and the unmet need it addresses? Raj Denhoy: Yeah, so it's in the gluteal augmentation space, right, which is a market that is sizable and has grown over the last few years. The, you know, currently available technologies there are pretty substandard. There's not been much innovation at all.๋ผํ‹ด ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์‰ฌ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์œ ๋ฐฉํ™•๋Œ€ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ ˆ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ดํ›„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 2028๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: JEM์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ๊ทธ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์ œ์•ˆ๊ณผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ์ถฉ์กฑ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Raj Denhoy: ๋„ค, ๋‘”๋ถ€ํ™•๋Œ€ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ด์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค์€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ˆ˜์ค€ ์ดํ•˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Frankly, some of the injections and fillers that are used can be quite dangerous. We are taking some of the core technologies we have in our minimally invasive portfolio, the injection device, the implants, and really adapting them to use in a gluteal augmentation approach. As Peter noted, it's still in clinicals, and we're still working through this. For what we've seen, it's very encouraging. It is really a pipeline product to really think about it contributing, as Peter noted, in 2027 and beyond. The opportunity is there. Raj Denhoy: We believe we have something that's pretty unique and differentiated, and you'll hear more from us over the next couple of years on it.์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ฃผ์‚ฌ์ œ์™€ ํ•„๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค, ์ฆ‰ ์ฃผ์‚ฌ ์žฅ์น˜์™€ ์ž„ํ”Œ๋ž€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‘”๋ถ€ ํ™•๋Œ€์ˆ ์— ์ ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Peter๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์•„์ง ์ž„์ƒ์‹œํ—˜ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ณ„์† ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํŒŒ์ดํ”„๋ผ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ, Peter๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋กœ 2027๋…„ ์ดํ›„์— ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐํšŒ๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Raj Denhoy: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋…ํŠนํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฐจ๋ณ„ํ™”๋œ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Matt Taylor: Maybe I'll end on a fun one. You're very popular on Instagram. Raj Denhoy: Meet Raj? Peter Caldini: Yeah. Matt Taylor: The company. You have also had, you know, some signups of brand ambassadors and are doing some marketing that way. Maybe just talk a little bit about that strategy to get recognition of the brand and kind of the buzz that is being created by some of the online marketing. Peter Caldini: Yeah, I think, you know, especially you see this in the U.S. I mean, we did the Meghan Trainor campaign. That's been tremendously successful for us, not only to create the interest. We've been able to track the number of patients that have come in specifically on that program.Matt Taylor: ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ์Šคํƒ€๊ทธ๋žจ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์œผ์‹œ๋˜๋ฐ์š”.

Raj Denhoy: Meet Raj ๋ง์”€์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค.

Matt Taylor: ํšŒ์‚ฌ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์•ฐ๋ฐฐ์„œ๋”๋“ค๋„ ์˜์ž…ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๋ฐ์š”. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ธ์ง€๋„๋ฅผ ๋†’์ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ „๋žต๊ณผ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ…์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ™”์ œ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

Peter Caldini: ๋„ค, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”๊ฑด ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋„ˆ(Meghan Trainor) ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ด๋‹น ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ์ž…๋œ ํ™˜์ž ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ถ”์ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Also, I think we've just overall been able to create a lot of buzz in the industry. Some of that is driven by us, and a lot of it's driven also by the surgeons. You know, I think in some respects, there really hasn't been, you know, a lot of innovation coming to the market in the
U.S. I think once we came in and we provided a lot of materials, I think, you know, along with the things that we're doing, the surgeons are also very excited about it. Peter Caldini: You see them doing a lot of posting and reposting. I think that's really been able to drive a lot of the growth.
๋˜ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ํ™”์ œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ๋„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฃŒ๋“ค์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜, ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค๋„ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒŒ์‹œ๋ฌผ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žฌ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think for us, it's very unusual that you have patients walking in, talking to surgeons, and asking specifically for Motiva. You know, we're very proud about the efforts. That really helps us to drive the penetration and the utilization rates. That's going to continue into 2026 and beyond. Matt Taylor: Great. I'll be waiting for my contract. Peter Caldini: I'm not sure you're the right target, though. Matt Taylor: All right. Thank you guys for your time, and thanks everybody for your interest in this action. Peter Caldini: Thank you. Raj Denhoy: Thank you.์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋ณ‘์›์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด์„œ ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจํ‹ฐ๋ฐ”๋ฅผ ํŠน์ •ํ•ด์„œ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๋ก€์ ์ธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ ์นจํˆฌ์œจ๊ณผ ํ™œ์šฉ๋ฅ ์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ํฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” 2026๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Matt Taylor: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ํƒ€๊ฒŸ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.

Matt Taylor: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์•ˆ๊ฑด์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์ฃผ์‹  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Peter Caldini: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Raj Denhoy: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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# Establishment Labs 2025 Jefferies ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์š”์•ฝ

## ํ•ต์‹ฌ ํˆฌ์ž ํฌ์ธํŠธ

โ€ข **๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ง„์ž… ์„ฑ๊ณต ๋ฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”**: FDA ์Šน์ธ ํ›„ ์ฒซ ํ•ด 1,300๊ฐœ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์ฒ˜ ํ™•๋ณด, 2025๋…„ ๋ง ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ 20% ๋Ÿฐ๋ ˆ์ดํŠธ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ ์˜ˆ์ƒ. 2026๋…„ ์˜์—…์‚ฌ์› 15๋ช… ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฑ„์šฉ ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ฉฐ, ์†Œํ˜• ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ ์Šน์ธ ๋ฐ ์žฌ๊ฑด(Recon) ์ ์‘์ฆ ์ œ์ถœ(2025๋…„ ๋ง)๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™•๋Œ€ ์ „๋ง. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋†’์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์‹คํ˜„(๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํ‰๊ท  ๋Œ€๋น„ 2๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ)์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด 70% ๋ŒํŒŒํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ๊ฐœ์„  ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”.

โ€ข **EBITDA ํ‘์ž ์ „ํ™˜ ๋ฐ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ๊ฐœ์„ **: 2025๋…„ EBITDA ํ‘์ž ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ, 2026๋…„ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ํ‘์ž ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์ œ์‹œ. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ์—… ํ™•๋Œ€์™€ ๊ณ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ์ œํ’ˆ(Mia, Preserv) ๋น„์ค‘ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ฆ๋ถ„ ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์˜์—…์ด์ต์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋  ์ „๋ง. ์ œ์กฐ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ 75% ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์„ค๋น„ ํˆฌ์ž ๋ถˆํ•„์š”.

โ€ข **์ตœ์†Œ์นจ์Šต ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€**: Mia๋Š” 2025๋…„ $8-10M ๋งค์ถœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ, Mia์™€ Preserv ํ•ฉ์‚ฐ 2026๋…„ ์ตœ์†Œ $30M ๋ชฉํ‘œ. ์œ 


โ“ Q&A

Original Translation
Question-and-Answer Session

Operator
์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์„ธ์…˜

์šด์˜์ž

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

# ์–ด๋‹์ฝœ ์š”์•ฝ

**์ฃผ์š” ๋‚ด์šฉ:**

โ€ข **์‹ค์  ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ๋ถ€์žฌ**: ์ œ๊ณต๋œ ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ์—๋Š” Q&A ์„ธ์…˜ ์‹œ์ž‘ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋งŒ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด, ์žฌ๋ฌด ์ง€ํ‘œ, ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค, ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ ๋“ฑ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

โ€ข **๋ถ„์„ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€**: ๋งค์ถœ, ์ด์ต, ๋งˆ์ง„, ์ „๋ง์น˜ ๋“ฑ ํˆฌ์ž ํŒ๋‹จ์— ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ์— ๋ˆ„๋ฝ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

โ€ข **์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ฃŒ ํ•„์š”**: ์™„์ „ํ•œ ์–ด๋‹์ฝœ ๋ถ„์„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ ๋‚ด์šฉ(Prepared Remarks)๊ณผ ์ „์ฒด Q&A ์„ธ์…˜์ด ํฌํ•จ๋œ ์™„์ „ํ•œ ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

*์ฐธ๊ณ : ์œ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž ์ธ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ๋„์ถœ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ „์ฒด ์–ด๋‹์ฝœ ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.*