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๐Ÿ“„ Earnings Call Transcript ๋ฒˆ์—ญ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ

๐Ÿ“Š Presentation

Original Translation
Galaxy Digital Inc. (NASDAQ:GLXY) Q3 2025 Earnings Call October 21, 2025 11:35 AM EDT

Company Participants

Michael Novogratz - Founder, CEO & Director
Jonathan Goldowsky - Head of Investor Relations
Zac Prince

Conference Call Participants

Tyler Michetti

Presentation

Michael Novogratz
Founder, CEO & Director

Hey, guys, it's Mike Novogratz. Are we on? Jonathan Goldowsky
Head of Investor Relations

Mike, we are on, and good morning, everyone. We're very excited to be hosting our Third X Spaces following our Q3 earnings print this morning. It's great to have the chance to connect directly with all of you and share a little bit more about what we're working on here at Galaxy.
Galaxy Digital Inc. (NASDAQ:GLXY) 2025๋…„ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ 2025๋…„ 10์›” 21์ผ ์˜ค์ „ 11์‹œ 35๋ถ„ EDT

์ฐธ์„์ž

Michael Novogratz - ์ฐฝ๋ฆฝ์ž, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ
Jonathan Goldowsky - ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž
Zac Prince

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

Tyler Michetti

๋ฐœํ‘œ

Michael Novogratz
์ฐฝ๋ฆฝ์ž, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ๋งˆ์ดํฌ ๋…ธ๋ณด๊ทธ๋ผ์ธ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?

Jonathan Goldowsky
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž

๋„ค, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์— ์ด์–ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ X ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ์ง์ ‘ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์—…๋ฌด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I'm joined by Mike Novogratz, Galaxy's Founder and CEO; Tony Paquette, Galaxy's CFO; and Zac Prince, Head of GalaxyOne. We're going to try and answer as many questions as we can today. There are some that we will not be able to answer. As per usual, we won't be addressing nonpublic financials or other information. Anything that is inappropriate or irrelevant and questions on specific crypto assets or new products, among others, if you'd like to submit a question, feel free to tweet it us or raise your hand to speak on the spaces.์ €๋Š” Galaxy์˜ ์ฐฝ๋ฆฝ์ž์ด์ž CEO์ธ Mike Novogratz, Galaxy์˜ CFO์ธ Tony Paquette, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  GalaxyOne์˜ ์ฑ…์ž„์ž์ธ Zac Prince์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‰์†Œ์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ, ๋น„๊ณต๊ฐœ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ •๋ณด๋‚˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์ •๋ณด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ด€๋ จ์„ฑ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠน์ • ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ์ž์‚ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์ œ์ถœํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€ ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค์—์„œ ์†์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฐœ์–ธํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Lastly, I need to remind you to please refer to the link to the disclaimer provided in the spaces post and note that none of the information in the spaces constitutes investment advice or an offer, recommendation or solicitation by Galaxy or any of its affiliates to buy or sell any securities. With that, let's get started. Mike, I'll pass it over to you for some quick remarks before we open this one up. Michael Novogratz
Founder, CEO & Director

Yes, guys. First of all, apologies for the late start. We -- punctuality is important to my life, and I hate being late, and so sorry about that. We'll try not to happen again. And I'll try to be a little less dry than Jonathan, but that's his role.
๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค ๊ฒŒ์‹œ๋ฌผ์— ์ œ๊ณต๋œ ๋ฉด์ฑ…์กฐํ•ญ ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐธ์กฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค์˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์ •๋ณด๋„ ํˆฌ์ž ์กฐ์–ธ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณ„์—ด์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ถŒ์„ ๋งค์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งค๋„ํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ์ œ์•ˆ, ์ถ”์ฒœ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ถŒ์œ ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์œ ์˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ดํฌ, ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๋ง์”€์„ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Michael Novogratz
์ฐฝ๋ฆฝ์ž, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ

๋„ค, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ์šฐ์„  ๋Šฆ๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” -- ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์—„์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ณ , ๋Šฆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์—†๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ข€ ๋œ ๋”ฑ๋”ฑํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
He's our dry man with all the disclaimers and facts. Listen, if you heard our earnings call this morning, we had a great quarter. We just had a management committee meeting here, and everyone's eyes are spinning because we're so busy. There is a tremendous amount happening in the digital asset space right now. Opportunities, our clients are looking to do things. TradeFi are looking to do things. And so we are at the hunt for talent. We're looking at lots of opportunities. And so I couldn't be more excited. Excited to answer your questions today. Glad we have Zac on to talk a little bit about GalaxyOne, if you have questions there. And if you don't, I'll ask them some questions.๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉด์ฑ…์กฐํ•ญ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋“ค์„ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ ์‹ค์ ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์„ ๋“ค์œผ์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์ณค๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”๋น ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž„์›๋“ค์˜ ๋ˆˆ์ด ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์ž์‚ฐ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ†ต๊ธˆ์œต(TradeFi) ์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ธ์žฌ ํ™•๋ณด์— ๋‚˜์„œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GalaxyOne์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก Zac์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด์„œ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ณ , ํ˜น์‹œ ๊ทธ์ชฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And so let's get to it. I will throw to Jonathan to pick the first question, anyone has the courage to raise their hand or their virtual hand.๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฉ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์†์„ ๋“œ์‹ค ๋ถ„ ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์‹ค์  ํฌ์ธํŠธ:
- Galaxy Digital์˜ 2025๋…„ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์€ "great quarter"๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€

โ€ข ์‚ฌ์—… ์ „๋ง:
- ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์ž์‚ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ถ”์„ธ
- TradeFi(์ „ํ†ต ๊ธˆ์œต) ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ธฐํšŒ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ ์ค‘
- ์ธ์žฌ ์ฑ„์šฉ์„ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘

โ€ข ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ํ†ค:
- CEO Michael Novogratz๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ด๊ณ  ์—ด์ •์ ์ธ ํ†ค์„ ๋ณด์ž„
- ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ํ˜„์žฌ ํ™œ๋™๋Ÿ‰๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰
- GalaxyOne ๋“ฑ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜ ์ค€๋น„

โ€ป ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์ˆ˜์น˜๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋Š” ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜๋ถ€๋ผ ์•„์ง ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Œ


โ“ Q&A

Original Translation
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations All right. Let's kick it off with Vinyle. Vinyle your line should be unmuted, over to you to ask a question. [Audio Gap] Vinyle are you hearing me? Are you hearing me right now?**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vinyle๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vinyle๋‹˜, ์Œ์†Œ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์ œ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. [์˜ค๋””์˜ค ๋Š๊น€] Vinyle๋‹˜, ์ œ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
Unknown Analyst: Loud and clear. First of all, congrats on the results. It's pretty amazing to see that the past 8 years have brought us here. I've got a few questions. My first one will be regarding VC holdings. We've been wondering for a while in our small group of DD club, whether or not the company was going to reevaluate the current holdings to market conditions. We've been waiting for this for a few years. I remember Alex Ioffe back in the day saying that his interpretation of the market was that the holdings in the VC sphere were going to be higher. And in the same way, I was wondering if a lower discount would be applicable to the L3 assets we've got on the sheet. We've heard on the call that bullish was upgraded to L1 type and so I guess my question regarding the other assets is pretty much the same.**Unknown Analyst:** ๋จผ์ € ์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹ค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ 8๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ์—ฌ์ •์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด๋Œ์–ด์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ VC ๋ณด์œ  ์ž์‚ฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์†Œ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์‹ค์‚ฌ ํด๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณด์œ  ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์žฌํ‰๊ฐ€ํ• ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ค์™”๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์˜ˆ์ „์— Alex Ioffe๊ฐ€ VC ์˜์—ญ์˜ ๋ณด์œ  ์ž์‚ฐ์ด ๋” ๋†’์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ํ•ด์„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์—์„œ, ์ €ํฌ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์ƒ์˜ L3 ์ž์‚ฐ์— ๋” ๋‚ฎ์€ ํ• ์ธ์œจ์ด ์ ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฝœ์—์„œ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์‹œ(Bullish)๊ฐ€ L1 ํƒ€์ž…์œผ๋กœ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋™์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes, listen, so we have a pricing committee that meets monthly. And certainly quarterly before we put them out, they go through each asset on our balance sheet and they market -- I'd like to think conservatively, but they market what they think is a fair mark. Those marks are just for liquidity or illiquidity. Something like bullish was held on the balance sheet at a certain mark and then it goes public. And now it's liquid security. And so it trades at a -- it gets marked where the stock price goes. When you look at the entire thing, I like turning illiquid into liquid over time. And so we're constantly looking to do that where we have illiquidity, create more liquidity. Usually, that's after the life cycle of an asset. Crypto is interesting. Some of these things have been on our balance sheet for 10, 12 years, right? We've got a lot of Ripple equity. We were day 1 investors in Ripple even before Galaxy. It was just a family office. That has actually slowly moved up. They do -- they do tender offers every 6 months. We tender in, we get some liquidity, and then we mark to some discount to that tender because we're not allowed to sell our entire thing. And so every quarter, you can see in our financials that illiquid thing moves around. Sometimes things get moved up, sometimes things get moved down. And I think it does a pretty good approximation of figuring out when you put in the illiquidity that sometimes works against you and sometimes works for you, right? There are a lot of venture stuff that you know are going to be worth more than they're marked at one day or even now, but that's where the mark is because there's no activity in that specific name. And so I know it's an imperfect science, but it's taken very seriously. Tony Paquette runs that process. And that's -- it's quite frankly, the best we can do and it's best any company like ours does do.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์›” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ฑ…์ • ์œ„์›ํšŒ๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š” ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜์—ฌ ์‹œ์žฅ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ฑ…์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ณต์ •ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋Š” ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์ด๋‚˜ ๋น„์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์‹œ(Bullish) ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์— ํŠน์ • ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์žฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ์œ ๋™์„ฑ ์ฆ๊ถŒ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์›€์ง์ž„์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์‹œ์žฅ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ฃ .

์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ €๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋น„์œ ๋™ ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ์œ ๋™ ์ž์‚ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น„์œ ๋™์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ†ต์€ ์ž์‚ฐ์˜ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฃผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚œ ํ›„์— ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€์ฃ . ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์— 10๋…„, 12๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌํ”Œ ์ง€๋ถ„์„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ ์ด์ „, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํŒจ๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ ์˜คํ”ผ์Šค์˜€์„ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฆฌํ”Œ์˜ 1์ผ์ฐจ ํˆฌ์ž์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์„œ์„œํžˆ ์ƒ์Šนํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌํ”Œ์—์„œ๋Š” 6๊ฐœ์›”๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ณต๊ฐœ๋งค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‘๋ชจํ•ด์„œ ์ผ์ • ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ , ์ „์ฒด ์ง€๋ถ„์„ ๋งค๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ ๊ณต๊ฐœ๋งค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€์—์„œ ํ• ์ธ๋œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งค ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ €ํฌ ์žฌ๋ฌด์ œํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋น„์œ ๋™ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋˜๊ณ , ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ•˜ํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ์•ˆํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ๊ทผ์‚ฌ์น˜๋ฅผ ์‚ฐ์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒค์ฒ˜ ํˆฌ์ž ์ค‘์—๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ํ‰๊ฐ€์•ก๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ข…๋ชฉ์— ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ํ™œ๋™์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ˜„์žฌ ํ‰๊ฐ€์•ก์ด ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๊ณผํ•™์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ† ๋‹ˆ ํŒŒ์ผ“์ด ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์„ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Unknown Analyst: Yes, I appreciate the answer. I would have another question regarding VC, if it's authorized. I was wondering if you could walk us through the ownership structure regarding the funds we own. I'm talking about Galaxy Interactive, but more recently about the new fund. We heard you on some podcast saying that we were owning as a company, 30% of that kind of business. I just want to make sure we understand well where we sit in every fund as per ownership.**Unknown Analyst:** ๋„ค, ๋‹ต๋ณ€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. VC ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํŽ€๋“œ๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ์œ  ๊ตฌ์กฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Galaxy Interactive์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŽ€๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋กœ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ์—…์— 30% ์ •๋„ ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ ์†Œ์œ ๊ถŒ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. So in each fund, Galaxy puts our own firm capital into the fund to help seed the fund. Depending on how much they raise, our percentage goes up or down. And then, of course, there's a 20% carry in most of those funds on top of any profits. And so -- and that carry -- some of that gets paid out to the team and some stays with the house, with the investors. We -- I don't want to jump the shark here to understand if we published exactly by fund. But I think roughly 20% to 30% is where we've been in most of these funds. We were less than that in the very first interactive fund, which was the EOS fund originally, we were like 10%. But in most of the funds since then, we've been 20% to 30%.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ๊ฐ ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ Galaxy๋Š” ํŽ€๋“œ ์‹œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž์ฒด ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ž๋ณธ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŽ€๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ชจ๊ธˆํ•˜๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ €ํฌ ์ง€๋ถ„์œจ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด 20%์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ณด์ˆ˜(carry)๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ณด์ˆ˜ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ํŒ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ธ‰๋˜๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค, ์ฆ‰ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํŽ€๋“œ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๋Œ€๋žต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ 20%์—์„œ 30% ์ •๋„์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งจ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ž™ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ํŽ€๋“œ์˜€๋˜ ์›๋ž˜ EOS ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์€ 10% ์ •๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํŽ€๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” 20%์—์„œ 30% ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Unknown Analyst: If I may have a last question regarding tokenization?**Unknown Analyst:** ํ† ํฐํ™”์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director**Michael Novogratz:** I notice you've only provided "Founder, CEO & Director" which appears to be a title or role designation rather than spoken content from an earnings call Q&A session.

Could you please provide the actual management response or spoken content that you'd like me to translate into Korean? I'm ready to translate the executive's remarks following the guidelines you've specified.
Unknown Analyst: I was wondering because we heard that BlackRock was looking to build its own technology, and we see -- we can understand that most big banks might see a threat with tokenization. I was wondering where you see GK8 sitting at in this market? And where do you see custody as a service, but mostly as a fee clipping like when you got smart contract settlement and maybe also AllUnity. So I'd like to see if there's a moat regarding GT8 and if at any moment you see GT8 having its own fierce moment, if I may.**Unknown Analyst:** BlackRock์ด ์ž์ฒด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์€ํ–‰๋“ค์ด ํ† ํฐํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ˜‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ GK8์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ปค์Šคํ„ฐ๋”” ์„œ๋น„์Šค(custody as a service)๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€, ํŠนํžˆ ์Šค๋งˆํŠธ ์ปจํŠธ๋ž™ํŠธ ๊ฒฐ์ œ๋‚˜ AllUnity ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ ์ˆ˜์ต ๋ชจ๋ธ๋กœ์„œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GK8์˜ ํ•ด์ž(moat)๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ GK8์ด ์ž์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งž์ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Listen, the tokenization process itself is not so complicated, right? I think where you're going to see the value over time is connecting the entire infrastructure process, which is like capital raising in some ways, right, figuring out what assets should be tokenized or can be tokenized, and how to distribute those and then where those distributed assets sit in custody. It's kind of a complex web. GK is an important part of our infrastructure plan as well as our staking business, right? GK8 has built our tokenization engine, and they've been a key part of the AllUnity plan. But we're all still relatively early in this. We're hoping to announce some partnerships very soon with traditional TradeFi players, where we're partnering in those infrastructure pieces. And so we're both going to do our own infrastructure and then a lot of partnerships around that. Nobody is really tokenizing at scale right now. And some of that, I think, will change in the next 18 months. I think once you get clarity from the bill that hopefully gets passed in Washington in the next few months, the market structure bill. Once you also get understanding of where these tokenized security assets will trade, right now, they need to trade on ATSs and there are not a lot of big liquid pools around ATSs. And so all the pieces aren't in place yet for the tokenization world to really explode, but we're really close. And I think we're going to be making a lot of pivots and investments along the next few months to make sure that we're part of that future.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ํ† ํฐํ™” ๊ณผ์ • ์ž์ฒด๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ „์ฒด ์ธํ”„๋ผ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ์ž๋ณธ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ํ† ํฐํ™”ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋˜๋Š” ํ† ํฐํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐํฌํ• ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฐํฌ๋œ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ด€๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

GK๋Š” ์Šคํ…Œ์ดํ‚น ์‚ฌ์—…๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๊ณ„ํš์˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GK8์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ† ํฐํ™” ์—”์ง„์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ๊ณ , AllUnity ๊ณ„ํš์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์š”์†Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•„์ง ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ TradeFi ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ๊ณง ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ž์ฒด ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํ† ํฐํ™”๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ํ–ฅํ›„ 18๊ฐœ์›” ๋‚ด์— ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์—์„œ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋‚ด์— ํ†ต๊ณผ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋˜๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ๊ตฌ์กฐ ๋ฒ•์•ˆ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ† ํฐํ™”๋œ ์ฆ๊ถŒ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋ ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ดํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ATS(๋Œ€์ฒด๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์‹œ์Šคํ…œ)์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ATS ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—๋Š” ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ ํ’€์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ† ํฐํ™” ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํญ๋ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ์•„์ง ์ œ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žก์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ „ํ™˜๊ณผ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations We're going to go with Bizar [indiscernible] next.**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ๋น„์ž๋ฅด๋‹˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director You got to love a guy named Bizar.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋น„์ž๋ฅด(Bizar)๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ฃ .
Unknown Analyst: Thank you for having me again. I feel I owe you an apology actually because you just mentioned it. My name is Victor. My name is Victor [indiscernible], and I've been here for the third time in a row. And it seems like I won't be able to get back my official X account, so I've had somewhat of a spat with Elon and X over some of the algorithm shortcomings. And I just want to make sure you know that I'm a real human being. This is just my fun account, the only one I can use. I'm an institutional asset manager, actually oversee a 40 billion operation, and I'm a personal investor in Galaxy coming on my own behalf, and I thank you for having me. What I want to say just before I dive into the questions, I want to say a thank you to you and your teams. I think a lot of people on this call have made a good amount of money of the hard work you guys have been putting in. The layers of the business are many, and I know how much grind you've put in, so just to thank you for the hard work you guys put in for your investors.**Unknown Analyst:** ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์‚ฌ๊ณผ๋“œ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋“ฏ์ด ์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ๋น…ํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น…ํ„ฐ [์Œ์„ฑ๋ถˆ๋ช…ํ™•]์ด๊ณ , ์—ฐ์†์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต์‹ X ๊ณ„์ •์„ ๋˜์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ, ์•Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ฆ˜์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ ๋“ค๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ผ๋ก ๊ณผ X์™€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋งˆ์ฐฐ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฃผ์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณ„์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ด€ ์ž์‚ฐ์šด์šฉ์‚ฌ๋กœ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ 400์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์šด์šฉ์„ ๊ฐ๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ž๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ท€ํ•˜์™€ ํŒ€๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ง์”€์„ ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ํ†ตํ™”์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜์‹  ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ๋…ธ๊ณ  ๋•๋ถ„์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์…จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ธต์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด ์˜ค์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ฃผ์‹  ๋…ธ๊ณ ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director**Michael Novogratz:** I notice you've only provided "Founder, CEO & Director" which appears to be a title/position rather than spoken content from an earnings call Q&A session.

Could you please provide the actual management response or spoken content that you'd like me to translate into Korean? I'm ready to translate the executive's remarks following the guidelines you've specified.
Unknown Analyst: Now my question -- first one is with regards to something you said on the Empire podcast. You alluded to how the data center business, even though it's so prominently stated, I think the quote you used is, รขโ‚ฌล“It's merely 10% of your time of your brain power.รขโ‚ฌ I was wondering if you could perhaps talk us through from an investor standpoint, what are sort of the other 90% of what's on your brain and really, in doing so, also stress the risks that are most pertinent to you when you manage this business together with Tony, what is it you allocate your brain power to? What are the risks you're most actively managing?**Unknown Analyst:** ์ œ๊ฐ€ Empire ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋ชฉ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  "์ œ ๋‡Œ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์˜ ๋‹จ 10%์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•˜๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋˜ ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ 90%๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ† ๋‹ˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ด๋””์— ๋‡Œ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰์„ ํ• ๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Sure. It's a fair question. Let me state by the first premise is that I couldn't only spend 10% of my brain power on the data center if Chris Ferraro wasn't spending 40% to 50% of his, right? Chris is a beast. And he was perfectly suited for a business like this because he's got a structured finance background. He understands how to get financing as does Tony. And this stuff is you better be reading the contracts. And I'm not a real contract reader, and Chris goes through with a fine-tooth comb these 400-page leases. And so we got the right guy at Galaxy of managing that process. Listen, the crypto business is a lot more complicated in terms of the decisions one needs to make about where this industry is going. Like we all say tokenization is going to happen, but how and when and where is the liquidity going to be? What exchanges are they going to trade on. And so part of this is looking at the chessboard and trying to make the right decisions. I spent a lot of my time thinking about what talent we need and how to recruit that talent, right? Our best assets go up and down the elevator every day, right? This is a human capital business. And not only recruiting talent, but getting them to work together to a common goal is a big part of a lot of my brainpower. I spent a decent amount of my time telling the Galaxy story. A lot of you guys on Twitter gave me a wrath of shit for years for not talking about Galaxy enough. And we heard you loud and clear. Some of that was because we were a Canadian company that was stuck in a 5-year listing process in the U.S. And when you're in that process, you're not allowed to speak about your company because that's called pumping the well or priming the well. And so I had kind of a gag order, but now we don't. And we want to make sure people understand the value of our company and the story of our company to bring in liquidity, right? What you realize is stock price is pretty correlated with volume and liquidity. And so great that we had over 4,000 people on our Twitter earnings call -- on our YouTube earnings call today. That's way up from when we were nine months ago. And so that's part of the job. And then I oversee the liquid risk here. I'm 30-year macro veteran. Crypto at its core is macro, right? What's driving the big moves in Bitcoin and the other coins and the other ecosystems is a story about dollar debasement. And so I spent a decent amount of my time in my old networks, talking to the macro traders, understanding like the geopolitics of the world and the market environment of the world so we can make the right decisions around our balance sheet. And so when you put it all together, it's a full-time job, I promise.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต์ •ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š”. ๋จผ์ € ์ „์ œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค ํŽ˜๋ผ๋กœ(Chris Ferraro)๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‡Œ์šฉ๋Ÿ‰ ์ค‘ 40~50%๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ์Ÿ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” 10%๋งŒ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ธ์žฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์กฐํ™” ๊ธˆ์œต(structured finance) ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ž๊ธˆ์กฐ๋‹ฌ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ† ๋‹ˆ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์€ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ฝ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„œ๋ฅผ ๊ผผ๊ผผํžˆ ์ฝ๋Š” ํƒ€์ž…์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋Š” 400ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์งœ๋ฆฌ ์ž„๋Œ€๊ณ„์•ฝ์„œ๋ฅผ ์„ธ๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์—๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•  ์ ์ž„์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์ด ์—…๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””๋กœ ํ–ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‚ด๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒฐ์ •๋“ค ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ† ํฐํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ, ์–ธ์ œ, ์–ด๋””์„œ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์†Œ์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ฒด์ŠคํŒ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ธ์žฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ธ์žฌ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์˜์ž…ํ• ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ž์‚ฐ์€ ๋งค์ผ ์—˜๋ฆฌ๋ฒ ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ฅด๋ฝ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋ฝํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ธ์  ์ž๋ณธ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ์žฌ๋ฅผ ์˜์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ณตํ†ต๋œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ๋‘๋‡Œ ํ™œ๋™์˜ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €๋Š” ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋น„๋‚œ์„ ํผ๋ถ€์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํžˆ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ 5๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒ์žฅ ์ ˆ์ฐจ์— ๊ฐ‡ํ˜€ ์žˆ๋˜ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ ˆ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ์—๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธˆ์ง€๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํŽŒํ•‘ ๋” ์›ฐ(pumping the well)์ด๋‚˜ ํ”„๋ผ์ด๋ฐ ๋” ์›ฐ(priming the well)์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ•จ๊ตฌ๋ น ํ•˜์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜์™€ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜์—ฌ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋Ÿ‰ ๋ฐ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ƒ๊ด€๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ €ํฌ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์‹ค์ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์— 4,000๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” 9๊ฐœ์›” ์ „๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ œ ์—…๋ฌด์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์œ ๋™์„ฑ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” 30๋…„ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ ๋ฒ ํ…Œ๋ž‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฝ”์ธ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„๋“ค์˜ ํฐ ์›€์ง์ž„์„ ์ด๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ํ•˜๋ฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์˜ˆ์ „ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์‹œ๊ฒฝ์ œ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋”๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ง€์ •ํ•™๊ณผ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ํ• ์• ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข…ํ•ฉํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ •๋ง ํ’€ํƒ€์ž„ ์—…๋ฌด๋ผ๊ณ  ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Unknown Analyst: I have no doubt about that. I mean, last time we spoke about, for instance, CoreWeave credit risk and you alluded to how you're managing this. Is there any other really prominent other risk you're currently focusing on something you can share with us?**Unknown Analyst:** ๊ทธ ์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์˜์‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ๋ฒˆ์— ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด CoreWeave ์‹ ์šฉ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ์™€ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Listen, the whole world -- the whole world is complicated right now, right? We've got a really polarized country. And so the politics of our country have never been worse. and that creates nervousness and uncertainty. We have what feels to most people like we're in some stage of a bubble around data centers and AI. And what I've said over and over is bubbles happen around things that fundamentally change the way we live. If it was the railroad bubble or the Internet bubble, right, like the railroads really did change the way we live, just like the Internet did. AI will do so as well, which means prices will get way higher than probably the reality will be over a long period of time. Nobody knows if we're in the middle third quarter or fourth quarter of this frenzy. But so we're trying to manage -- how do you manage that risk as best you can, knowing that at one point in the next few years, you'll have a pretty sizable washout, right? All this CapEx that's being spent isn't all going to make money. Some of it will make a ton of money and some of it won't. And so how do you hedge and how do you prepare for that inevitable. And again, I don't know if the inevitable is in 3 months or 3 years. And I don't think anyone else does either, but there will be an inevitable pullback because there's just too much capital being spent and not all of it is going to be productive.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์–‘๊ทนํ™”๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ ์ •์น˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์–ด๋А ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ƒํƒœ์ฃ . ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์™€ AI๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ผ ์–ด๋–ค ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ๋ฒ„๋ธ” ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•ด์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฒ„๋ธ”์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ ๋„ ๋ฒ„๋ธ”์ด๋‚˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ๋ฒ„๋ธ”์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ฒ ๋„๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟจ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋†’์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์ด ์ด ๊ด‘ํ’์˜ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์ธ์ง€ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋‚ด์— ๊ฝค ํฐ ์กฐ์ •์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๋ฉด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ง€๊ธˆ ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ(CapEx)์ด ๋‹ค ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ํ”ผํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ—ค์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๋น„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?

๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ํ”ผํ•œ ์‹œ์ ์ด 3๊ฐœ์›” ํ›„์ธ์ง€ 3๋…„ ํ›„์ธ์ง€ ์ €๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ํ”ผํ•œ ํ›„ํ‡ด๋Š” ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์ž๋ณธ์ด ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ์ ์ด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
Unknown Analyst: I mean we also [indiscernible] putting the money into OpenAI, and that kind of rings the alarm bells to some extent. I think you alluded to it?**Unknown Analyst:** ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ OpenAI์— ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ๋“ฑ์„ ์ผœ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ€๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”?
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director There is a story that you can create a vendor financing of all this stuff, right? I mean OpenAI is -- has got obligations that far, far, far exceed its revenue right now. Well, if it can prove itself that it's growing revenue, it's going to be an amazing -- have an amazing ability and flip to profitability, an amazing ability to borrow money to meet those obligations. And if it can, it won't. Like right now, it seems like it can raise equity at ever higher valuations and almost as much as it can, but that doesn't last forever. And so in lots of ways, OpenAI is the linchpin. And in some ways, it's too big to fail because our government really fundamentally believes, and I think this is not just the Trump administration. I think this is probably bipartisan that winning AI is existential for the long-term success of the United States, that rightfully or wrongfully, they see this as a cold war against China. And this is an arms race. I personally don't, but who cares what I think. I know the government does. And so I don't think either government, if the Democrats were in charge or the Republicans are going to let the U.S. lose the AI arms race. And so that -- you put all together, it's a complicated equation. And that has to be -- I spent a ton of time thinking about that risk, talking to smart people about that risk. And if you start seeing cracks, what does that mean for. What are the moves Galaxy needs to make?**Michael Novogratz:** ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฒค๋” ํŒŒ์ด๋‚ธ์‹ฑ(vendor financing)์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. OpenAI๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๋Š” ์˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ˆ˜์ต ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ์ฐจ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์ฃ .

ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋ฐธ๋ฅ˜์—์ด์…˜์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŒํผ ์ง€๋ถ„ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์œ ์น˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜์›ํžˆ ์ง€์†๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฉด์—์„œ OpenAI๊ฐ€ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์ถ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹คํŒจํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฐ ์กด์žฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ”„ ํ–‰์ •๋ถ€๋งŒ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI์—์„œ ์Šน๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์  ์„ฑ๊ณต์— ์žˆ์–ด ์ƒ์กด์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ ์ดˆ๋‹น์  ํ•ฉ์˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ณ๋“  ๊ทธ๋ฅด๋“  ๊ฐ„์—, ์ด๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ค‘๊ตญ๊ณผ์˜ ๋ƒ‰์ „์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ตฐ๋น„๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ. ์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฏผ์ฃผ๋‹น์ด ์ง‘๊ถŒํ•˜๋“  ๊ณตํ™”๋‹น์ด ์ง‘๊ถŒํ•˜๋“  ์–ด๋А ์ •๋ถ€๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด AI ๊ตฐ๋น„๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—์„œ ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฉ๋‚ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข…ํ•ฉํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์ •์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ท ์—ด์ด ๋ณด์ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€, Galaxy๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์›€์ง์ž„์„ ์ทจํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Unknown Analyst: It very much resonates with my thinking on the framework -- on the risks in this framework. Now if I may ask you on hiring because you alluded to it yourself, I've been in for securitization in the mid-2000s, and I know how tough hiring can get when you really are growing when you're in that phase, when you need that human capital. Could you share with us how you're structurally going about that? And actually, for what it's worth, I would love to know how one best applies to Galaxy, too.**Unknown Analyst:** ์ด ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์›Œํฌ์˜ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ์ผ์น˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ฑ„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ์š”, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ 2000๋…„๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜ ์ฆ๊ถŒํ™” ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ธ์  ์ž๋ณธ์ด ์ •๋ง ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ฑ„์šฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด์ง€ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์— ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Listen, we have a website. We post tons of job offerings. You can see some of the guys on Twitter or an X are really, really savvy. They're always looking at those job offerings to try to understand what we're doing in our data center business. I get a kick out of that. The easiest way to hire people in a growing business is through reference. right? Guys on the desk that have friends and colleagues at other places that know they're A players. But we post everything. We have multiple headhunters that work for us. We have a big HR department. Now they're called the people department, but our people department is active. And then each business leader is actually the one who's finally responsible for building out their teams. And so you can go to the website, galaxy-com-careers, and it lists all our job offerings. Just to give you some sense, our summer internship program last year that had 25 summer interns. And nowadays, the summer intern is kind of an addition to get a full-time job. right? We will probably hire 75% of those interns. We had 15,000 applicants, 25 spots. People like our company. They like our industry. And it's really freaking tough for young people to get jobs right now, right? With the advent of AI, with the economy the way it is, it's never been harder for 22-year-old college grads to get jobs. And so we have -- and the hardest thing for us is how do you sort through all these qualified candidates to get someone who's awesome, who fits your culture. And we work really hard at that.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์ฑ„์šฉ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ . ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ๋‚˜ X์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋ˆˆ์น˜ ๋น ๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์ฑ„์šฉ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.

์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ์ธ์žฌ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‰ฌ์šด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์ถ”์ฒœ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์ฃ ? ํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค ์ค‘์—์„œ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์ž๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฑ„์šฉ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ํ—ค๋“œํ—Œํ„ฐ๋“ค๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ช… ์žˆ๊ณ , ํฐ HR ๋ถ€์„œ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ํ”ผํ”Œ ๋ถ€์„œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €ํฌ ํ”ผํ”Œ ๋ถ€์„œ๊ฐ€ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ํŒ€์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ์ตœ์ข… ์ฑ…์ž„์„ ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ galaxy-com-careers์— ๊ฐ€์‹œ๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฑ„์šฉ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ž‘๋…„ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ธํ„ด์‹ญ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— 25๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ธํ„ด์ด ์ฐธ์—ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์ฆ˜ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ธํ„ด์‹ญ์€ ์ •๊ทœ์ง์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ด€๋ฌธ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜์ฃ ? ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ธํ„ด๋“ค ์ค‘ ์•ฝ 75%๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 25๊ฐœ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— 15,000๋ช…์ด ์ง€์›ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ ์—…๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด์ฃ .

์ง€๊ธˆ ์ Š์€์ด๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI์˜ ๋“ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ฒฝ์ œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด 22์„ธ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์กธ์—…์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ทจ์—…ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋А ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํž˜๋“ค์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ง€์›์ž๋“ค ์ค‘์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๋งž๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ณ„ํ•˜๋А๋ƒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Unknown Analyst: That's awesome for you, but also awesome for us as investors.**Unknown Analyst:** ๊ท€ํ•˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ํˆฌ์ž์ž์ธ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations We're going to move on to Tyler Michetti of Tyler Investing.**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ์ด์ œ Tyler Investing์˜ Tyler Michetti ๋‹˜์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Tyler Michetti: My name is Tyler, a retail investor here. I've been following Galaxy for the past year now. Excited to see where you guys go with this. I actually have a question about Helios. Given the energy dynamics in Texas and how the rest of the build-out is going, can you guys talk a little bit about how Helios is being optimized for power grid and what kind of benefits you expect that to provide once Helios is fully operational?**Tyler Michetti:** ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธํˆฌ์ž์ž ํƒ€์ผ๋Ÿฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ 1๋…„๊ฐ„ ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ง€์ผœ๋ด ์™”๊ณ , ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ค์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ…์‚ฌ์Šค์˜ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์—ญํ•™๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ค์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ „๋ ฅ๋ง์— ์ตœ์ ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ค์Šค๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๋™๋˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์ต์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. So the interesting thing about being part of the ERCOT grid is you get to draw power from the grid, right? We're not building behind the meter. We're grid users. And what's the grid job is to say, all these new applications to draw power from us, what are we going to look like in 5 years and 10 years' time? And will the grid be able to sustain this kind of power demand. And so in lots of ways, that responsibility is ERCOTรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs with their partners, right? WETT and AEP, which is the power provider that we use. And so for us, it's making sure that our applications have the best chance of being approved by them. And that is working with each of those bureaucracies to make sure they get the test results and the studies that they need to realize that we'll be able to pull the next 800 to 2.7 megawatts of power and the grid will be able to withstand that. When the power goes into the box, and Chris Ferraro talked to this, this morning, right, that's where we're handing off the baton to CoreWeave, who has really developed a world-class, best-in-class ability to get the most out of the chips, the way they stack them, the way they connect them. And so we decided that was not going to be one of the domain expertise is at this point we focused on. It's why we partnered with CoreWeave. And so we really have the role here of land, power connectivity and then finding the right tenants.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ERCOT ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ์—์„œ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ๋’คํŽธ์— ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์€ ์ €ํฌ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ค๋ ค๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹ ์ฒญ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ , 5๋…„ ํ›„, 10๋…„ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์ผ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ „๋ ฅ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋ฅผ ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ทธ ์ฑ…์ž„์€ ERCOT๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. WETT์™€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด์ธ AEP ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ๋“ค ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์‹ ์ฒญ์„œ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์Šน์ธ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์ƒ์˜ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๊ด€๋ฃŒ ๊ธฐ๊ด€๋“ค๊ณผ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์„œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์Œ 800๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์—์„œ 2.7๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์˜ ์ „๋ ฅ์„ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฒฌ๋”œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฐ•์Šค๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค ํŽ˜๋ผ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ์— ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๊ทธ ์ง€์ ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”ํ†ต์„ CoreWeave์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. CoreWeave๋Š” ์นฉ์„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ๊ณ„์  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ์นฉ์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ํ˜„์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ๋„๋ฉ”์ธ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ CoreWeave์™€ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ๋งบ์€ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์€ ํ† ์ง€, ์ „๋ ฅ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์„ฑ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ํ…Œ๋„ŒํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Tyler Michetti: And I actually have a follow-up. If you can provide any new update on the remaining build-out of Helios and whether you're incorporating any new technology that maybe you haven't explained yet? And potentially, are you -- maybe going to do more in-house expansion or joint ventures, potentially hosting other companies?**Tyler Michetti:** ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ค์Šค์˜ ๋‚จ์€ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์ž‘์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์ง ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€์š”? ๋˜ํ•œ ํ˜น์‹œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์ฒด ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ณ„ํš์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ์ž‘ํˆฌ์ž๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŒ…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Right now, we've got the 800 megawatts is spoken for from CoreWeave, and that's the plan. And so we're a one-tenant single purpose-built campus. When we get the next approval of more power, we're going to look really carefully, do we diversify away from CoreWeave to other tenants or not. And that will be a real, I think, healthy discussion. The reason you diversify is because having multiple tenants is always a good risk mitigant. And listen, we've been paid a whole lot to work with CoreWeave, and they've been great partners. And so we're certainly going to -- that can be the first conversation we have. And as time passes, the technology is shifting quickly. And so we can already see that the first 200-megawatt Phase 1 that we're doing for CoreWeave, Phase 2 is going to look different. They're going to pack things tighter. They're going to get more usage out of the same amount of megawatts and same amount of space. And so I think each iteration will be a little different than the last one. And we're more of a in the -- we're not driving that process. We're helping, but we're really -- we're riding along that process, working with our GC, our in-house people, but mostly with our tenants.**Michael Novogratz:** ํ˜„์žฌ 800๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๋Š” CoreWeave์™€ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์ด ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ผ ์ž„์ฐจ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํŠน์ˆ˜ ๋ชฉ์  ์บ ํผ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ „๋ ฅ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด, CoreWeave์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž„์ฐจ์ธ๋“ค๋กœ ๋‹ค๊ฐํ™”ํ• ์ง€ ์•„๋‹์ง€ ์ •๋ง ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ฑด์ „ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ค๊ฐํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ณต์ˆ˜์˜ ์ž„์ฐจ์ธ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ข‹์€ ์œ„ํ—˜ ์™„ํ™” ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” CoreWeave์™€ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ CoreWeave๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ 200๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ 1๋‹จ๊ณ„์™€ 2๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์กฐ๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํŒจํ‚นํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๊ณ , ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์™€ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ™œ์šฉ๋„๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์ž‘์—…์€ ์ด์ „ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž…์žฅ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ ๋Š” ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์ €ํฌ ์ด๊ด„๊ณ„์•ฝ์—…์ฒด(GC), ์‚ฌ๋‚ด ์ธ๋ ฅ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋˜, ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ…Œ๋„ŒํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations Zac Prince, we just had a question come in over Twitter for you. The question is from [Nguyen Dinh Bao], who wants to know if we have any plans to expand GalaxyOne to Canada and generally beyond the United States?**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋“ค์–ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. [Nguyen Dinh Bao]๋‹˜์ด GalaxyOne์„ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค์™€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Zac Prince: Yes, sure thing. So first, this is my first time talking on one of these spaces. I just wanted to say I'm thrilled to be here. I've been at Galaxy for just over 6 months now, and the team at Galaxy is truly remarkable and world-class. And there's just so much energy and excitement around so many different parts of the business right now that it's a thrill to be a part of. I'm also kind of addicted to Twitter and have been for a while, so being able to speak directly to a lot of the folks here who I see your post regularly is also an honor. So thanks. In terms of expanding GalaxyOne outside of the U.S., we will absolutely be doing that. It's not something that is on our super short-term part of the road map. And the reason for that is a lot of the products that we're offering are kind of highly regulated financial services products. And our focus, at least to start is on the U.S. market, but we will absolutely be expanding into Canada. Still a little bit TBD in terms of what exactly that product mix will look like when we do expand, but we will get there. And I've heard a number of folks from Canada, parts of Europe and other places request access to some of the things that we're doing at GalaxyOne, and we hear you, and it is on the road map, but don't expect something there like in the next 6 months.**Zac Prince:** ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์— ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•œ ์ง€ 6๊ฐœ์›”์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋„˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ ํŒ€์€ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž๊ณ  ์„ธ๊ณ„์  ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์™€ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•œ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ทธ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์งœ๋ฆฟํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ €๋Š” ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์— ๊ฝค ์ค‘๋…๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ‰์†Œ ํฌ์ŠคํŒ…์„ ์ž์ฃผ ๋ณด๋˜ ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณผ ์ง์ ‘ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์˜๊ด‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐค๋Ÿญ์‹œ์›(GalaxyOne)์„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์— ํฌํ•จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๋„๋กœ ๊ทœ์ œ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ธˆ์œต ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์šฐ์„  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค๋กœ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์žฅํ•  ๋•Œ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์–ด๋–ค ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋ ์ง€๋Š” ์•„์ง ํ™•์ •๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ง„์ถœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค, ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด GalaxyOne์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๋„ ๊ทธ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ํ–ฅํ›„ 6๊ฐœ์›” ๋‚ด์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations Thanks, Zac. Mike, we've got a couple more that came through via X, which I'm going to kick over to you. The first one is from Laser [indiscernible], who said that Tom Lee is saying that DAT is in a bubble, and we recorded $40 million of fees from our DAT activity over the past several quarters. Do you think that DAT fee revenue will be a significant revenue source in the future? And how is the competitive landscape given some of the fees that Galaxy is charging for these services?**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Zac. Mike, X๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋” ๋“ค์–ด์™”๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” Laser [๋ถˆ๋ถ„๋ช…]๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, Tom Lee๊ฐ€ DAT๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ„๋ธ” ์ƒํƒœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ DAT ํ™œ๋™์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 4์ฒœ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DAT ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ ์ˆ˜์ต์ด ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ต์›์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Galaxy๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ถ€๊ณผํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์€ ์–ด๋–ค์ง€์š”?
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Listen, I think we were smart and moved fast to get a lot of long-term contracts to manage DAT money. And so that will keep our asset management business busy and profitable for a while. I pray those DAT grow because if those DATs grow, our assets under management grow. And some are growing. Tom Lee is doing a brilliant job at Bit-miner of raising new equity and building his asset base every week, right? Michael Saylor did the best job and MicroStrategy has slowed down in its growth. And you're going to probably see feast or famine in these DATs. Some are going to be great businesses. Others are going to be what I will call closed-end funds with decent assets. I think the acceleration of DATs is going to slow, right? I think we're at the tail end of using DATs to raise capital for the crypto business. And I say that because the 3 biggest ecosystems, quite frankly, the 4 biggest ecosystems all have raised significant DATs. And so you don't need 15 Solana DATs or 15 Bitcoin DATs. And so now there's a place where public equity markers -- public equity investors can go to play with DATs space. They also have the ETF space. And so -- and crypto people still have normal crypto space. And you're going to see all these things converge over time. And so I think Tom is right that we had -- we probably hit peak DAT, but I don't think that means the revenue from those DATs goes away.**Michael Novogratz:** ๋„ค, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์—ฌ์„œ DAT ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ์žฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ž์‚ฐ์šด์šฉ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ”์˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ DAT๋“ค์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DAT๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ ์šด์šฉ์ž์‚ฐ(AUM)๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Tom Lee๋Š” Bit-miner์—์„œ ๋งค์ฃผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ž๋ณธ์„ ์กฐ๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์‚ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ํƒ์›”ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Michael Saylor๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋’€๊ณ , MicroStrategy๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ ์†๋„๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ DAT๋“ค์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทน๊ณผ ๊ทน์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ํ์‡„ํ˜• ํŽ€๋“œ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DAT์˜ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋Š” ๋‘”ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ž๋ณธ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ์— DAT๋ฅผ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰๋ฐ”์ง€์— ๋‹ค๋‹ค๋ž๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ 4๊ฐœ ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ DAT๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ–‰ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”๋ผ๋‚˜ DAT 15๊ฐœ๋‚˜ ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ DAT 15๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ด์ œ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ฃผ์‹ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์ด DAT ์˜์—ญ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ETF ์˜์—ญ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜๋ ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ Tom์˜ ๋ง์ด ๋งž๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ DAT์˜ ์ •์ ์„ ์ฐ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ DAT๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ต์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations Thanks, Mike. We got one more on the Twitter comments from [indiscernible], who wants to know what the plan is for next year, what targets do we have in place after such a huge jump in net income and also importantly, wanted to let you know that we are all Nakamigos.**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ. ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋” ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ์ˆœ์ด์ต์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ํ›„ ๋‚ด๋…„ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์‹œ๋„ค์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑด, ์ €ํฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์นด๋ฏธ๊ณ ์Šค๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ๋„ค์š”.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director I love the Nakamigos. So shout out to you guys. Listen, I think the most exciting thing that will happen next year for Galaxy is that by the middle of the year, Helios starts cash flowing. And that will just be cool because we know it's like you turn your hose on, it starts off coming slowly and then as you turn and turn, the water comes out faster and faster. That's the way to think of Helios. We start cash flowing probably end of the first quarter and -- by the end of the year, it's really cash flowing. And 18 months after that, it's hundreds of millions of dollars per quarter. And that changes the dynamic of this place immensely. And so in some ways, we've got a year to keep grinding before the Helios cash flow machine turns on. Each year, we approach the crypto business relatively similarly. We approach it scared and optimistic, like scared that we know it's a very volatile space and that we've lived through a bunch of cycles and they can be painful, optimistic in that we're seeing so many new opportunities show up. We wouldn't be hiring people if we didn't think we're now at the precipice of really becoming part of the financial landscape of the world, right? Crypto was kind of a science project. For the first few years, we were running Galaxy, and now it's integrating with traditional finance at an accelerating pace. One of the metrics we look at is assets on platform, right? The more assets we have on platform, that's staking assets, asset management assets, assets in our lending book, those are recurring revenue things, and they give the company more and more ballast and so we don't have enough of that yet for me to sleep like a baby, maybe we never will because I don't sleep that much. But that's our goal as a firm is to continue to build those assets that are recurring revenue, knowing that this is going to stay a volatile space for a while. I hope that helps.**Michael Novogratz:** Nakamigos ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๋…„์— Galaxy์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•œ ์ผ์€ ์—ฐ์ค‘๋ฐ˜์ฏค Helios๊ฐ€ ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํ๋ฆ„์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ‹€๋ฉด ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์† ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ๋ฌผ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ Helios๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•„๋งˆ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง์ฏค ํ˜„๊ธˆ ํ๋ฆ„์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๊ณ , ์—ฐ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ˜„๊ธˆ์ด ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๋“ค์–ด์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 18๊ฐœ์›” ํ›„์—๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋‹น ์ˆ˜์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์—ญํ•™์„ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋†“์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” Helios ํ˜„๊ธˆ ์ฐฝ์ถœ ๋จธ์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€๋™๋˜๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€ 1๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ณ„์† ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค๋…„ ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ์‚ฌ์—…์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ๋•Œ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘๋ ค์›€๊ณผ ๋‚™๊ด€์„ ๋™์‹œ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜์ฃ . ๋‘๋ ค์šด ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์ด ํฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์‚ฌ์ดํด์„ ๊ฒช์–ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ธˆ์œต ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ์ ˆ๋ฒฝ์— ์„œ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ณผํ•™ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ . Galaxy๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•œ ์ฒซ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ์†๋„๋กœ ์ „ํ†ต ๊ธˆ์œต๊ณผ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€ํ‘œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ํ”Œ๋žซํผ ์ž์‚ฐ(assets on platform)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์— ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ์ž์‚ฐ์ด ๋งŽ์„์ˆ˜๋ก, ์ฆ‰ ์Šคํ…Œ์ดํ‚น ์ž์‚ฐ, ์ž์‚ฐ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์ž์‚ฐ, ๋Œ€์ถœ ์žฅ๋ถ€์˜ ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์„์ˆ˜๋ก ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด๊ณ , ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์•ˆ์ •์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ์›๋ž˜ ์ž ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ž์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์ด ํด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๊ฒฝ์ƒ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ์ž์‚ฐ๋“ค์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์…จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jonathan Goldowsky: Head of Investor Relations Thanks, Mike. Maybe I'll kick it back over to you. It doesn't look like we have any more questions in the queue for some final remarks to wrap this one up.**Jonathan Goldowsky:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Mike. ๋Œ€๊ธฐ ์ค‘์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์œผ๋‹ˆ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ง์”€์„ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Michael Novogratz: Founder, CEO & Director Yes. Guys, I really appreciate this community. We were frustrated for years with the stock that felt undervalued and didn't trade a lot. And in no small part from a lot of you guys on this, this chat, people have started to hear our story and getting engaged in our stock. That's my job as CEO, but you guys are amazing helpers in understanding our stock. The questions we get on Twitter spaces or X spaces are often as insightful as the ones we get from the paid professionals at the big investment banks. And so I think we are seeing the democratization of finance happen before our eyes and all you guys are a big part of that. So I want to say thanks, and we'll see you next quarter.**Michael Novogratz:** ์ •๋ง ์ด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ €ํ‰๊ฐ€๋˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋Ÿ‰๋„ ์ ์€ ์ฃผ์‹ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ขŒ์ ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋А๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜์‹  ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค ๋•๋ถ„์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ ์ฃผ์‹์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด CEO๋กœ์„œ ์ œ ์—ญํ• ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ €ํฌ ์ฃผ์‹์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋‚˜ X ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค์—์„œ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ€ํ˜• ํˆฌ์ž์€ํ–‰์˜ ์œ ๋ฃŒ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค๋งŒํผ์ด๋‚˜ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ธˆ์œต์˜ ๋ฏผ์ฃผํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋ˆˆ์•ž์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์”€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a Korean summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript:

โ€ข ์žฌ๋ฌด ์‹ค์  ๋ฐ ์ „๋žต
- ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ค์Šค(Helios) ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ 2024๋…„ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„ ์ฐฝ์ถœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ
- 2024๋…„ ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ˆ˜์ต์ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋ง
- ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์  ์ˆ˜์ต ์ฐฝ์ถœ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ”Œ๋žซํผ ์ž์‚ฐ(์Šคํ…Œ์ดํ‚น, ์ž์‚ฐ์šด์šฉ, ๋Œ€์ถœ) ํ™•๋Œ€์— ์ฃผ๋ ฅ

โ€ข ์‚ฌ์—… ํ˜„ํ™ฉ ๋ฐ ์œ„ํ—˜์š”์†Œ
- CoreWeave์™€์˜ 800MW ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์ด ์ฃผ์š” ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ
- AI/๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๊ฑฐํ’ˆ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์˜ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ
- ํ† ํฐํ™”(Tokenization) ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ๊ทœ์ œ ๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ ํ™•๋ณด ํ›„ ํ™•์žฅ ๊ณ„ํš

โ€ข ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ํ†ค
- ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๋‚˜ ์‹œ์žฅ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ํƒœ๋„ ์œ ์ง€
- ์•”ํ˜ธํ™”ํ ์‚ฐ์—…์ด ์ „ํ†ต ๊ธˆ์œต๊ณผ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ์˜ ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ์ฃผ๋ชฉ
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