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(NEOE:LOR:CA) Q3 2025 Sales Call October 21, 2025 12:30 PM EDT

Company Participants

Nicolas Hieronimus - CEO & Director
Eva Quiroga-Thiele - Head of Investor Relations
Christophe Babule - Executive VP & CFO
Laurent Schmitt - President & CEO

Conference Call Participants

Guillaume Gerard Delmas - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division
Charles-Louis Scotti - Kepler Cheuvreux, Research Division
Jean-Olivier Nicolai - Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division
Ashley Wallace - BofA Securities, Research Division
Celine Pannuti - JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division
Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division
Sarah Simon - Morgan Stanley, Research Division
Jeff Stent - BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division
David Hayes - Jefferies LLC, Research Division
David Da Maia - CIC Market Solutions, Research Division
Patrick Folan - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division
Robert Ottenstein - Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division

Presentation

Operator

Good evening, and thank you for joining us for L'Orรฉal's 9 months 2025 Sales Call.
(NEOE:LOR:CA) 2025๋…„ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ฝœ 2025๋…„ 10์›” 21์ผ ์˜คํ›„ 12:30 EDT

ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ฐธ์„์ž

๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ ์ด์—๋กœ๋‹ˆ๋ฌด์Šค(Nicolas Hieronimus) - CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ
์—๋ฐ” ํ‚ค๋กœ๊ฐ€-ํ‹ธ๋ ˆ(Eva Quiroga-Thiele) - ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ๋ฐ”๋ถˆ(Christophe Babule) - ์ „๋ฌด์ด์‚ฌ ๊ฒธ CFO
๋กœ๋ž‘ ์Šˆ๋ฏธํŠธ(Laurent Schmitt) - ์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CEO

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

๊ธฐ์šค ์ œ๋ผ๋ฅด ๋ธ๋งˆ์Šค(Guillaume Gerard Delmas) - UBS ํˆฌ์ž์€ํ–‰, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์ƒค๋ฅผ๋ฃจ์ด ์Šค์ฝ”ํ‹ฐ(Charles-Louis Scotti) - ์ผ€ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ ์‡ ๋ธŒ๋ขฐ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์žฅ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋น„์— ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ์ด(Jean-Olivier Nicolai) - ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ์‚ญ์Šค ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์• ์А๋ฆฌ ์›”๋ฆฌ์Šค(Ashley Wallace) - BofA ์ฆ๊ถŒ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์…€๋ฆฐ ํŒŒ๋ˆ„ํ‹ฐ(Celine Pannuti) - JP๋ชจ๊ฐ„์ฒด์ด์Šค, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์™€์‚ฌ์ดŒ ํฐ ์šฐ๋”์‹คํŒŒ(Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa) - RBC ์บํ”ผํ„ธ ๋งˆ์ผ“, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์‚ฌ๋ผ ์‚ฌ์ด๋จผ(Sarah Simon) - ๋ชจ๊ฑด์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์ œํ”„ ์Šคํ…ํŠธ(Jeff Stent) - BNP ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ” ์—‘์„ธ์ธ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ ํ—ค์ด์ฆˆ(David Hayes) - ์ œํ”„๋ฆฌ์Šค, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ ๋‹ค ๋งˆ์ด์•„(David Da Maia) - CIC ๋งˆ์ผ“ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
ํŒจํŠธ๋ฆญ ํด๋ž€(Patrick Folan) - ๋ฐ”ํด๋ ˆ์ด์Šค ์€ํ–‰, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋กœ๋ฒ„ํŠธ ์˜คํ…์Šคํƒ€์ธ(Robert Ottenstein) - ์—๋ฒ„์ฝ”์–ด ISI ๊ธฐ๊ด€ํˆฌ์ž์ž ์ฆ๊ถŒ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ

๋ฐœํ‘œ

์‚ฌํšŒ์ž

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ์˜ 2025๋…„ 9๊ฐœ์›” ๋งค์ถœ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ฝœ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
With me are, as always Nicolas Hieronimus. Nicolas Hieronimus
CEO & Director

Hello. Eva Quiroga-Thiele
Head of Investor Relations

Christophe Babule. Christophe Babule
Executive VP & CFO

Hello, good evening. Eva Quiroga-Thiele
Head of Investor Relations

And Laurent Schmitt. Laurent Schmitt
President & CEO

Hello, good evening. Eva Quiroga-Thiele
Head of Investor Relations

Nicolas will briefly comment on the numbers and the acquisition of Kering Beauty we announced yesterday. We will then open up for Q&A and aim to finish at 7:30. Over to you, Nicolas. Nicolas Hieronimus
CEO & Director

So good afternoon, everyone. This is -- I'd like to tell you about this 9 months.
ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฐธ์„ํ•œ ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ ์ด์—๋กœ๋‹ˆ๋ฌด์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ ์ด์—๋กœ๋‹ˆ๋ฌด์Šค
CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.

์—๋ฐ” ํ‚ค๋กœ๊ฐ€-ํ‹ธ๋ ˆ
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ๋ฐ”๋ถˆ๋ ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ๋ฐ”๋ถˆ๋ ˆ
์ „๋ฌด์ด์‚ฌ ๊ฒธ CFO

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.

์—๋ฐ” ํ‚ค๋กœ๊ฐ€-ํ‹ธ๋ ˆ
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋กœ๋ž‘ ์Šˆ๋ฏธํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋กœ๋ž‘ ์Šˆ๋ฏธํŠธ
์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CEO

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.

์—๋ฐ” ํ‚ค๋กœ๊ฐ€-ํ‹ธ๋ ˆ
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž

๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์  ์ˆ˜์น˜์™€ ์–ด์ œ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•œ ์ผ€๋ง ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์ธ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋žตํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ ํ›„, ์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  7์‹œ 30๋ถ„์— ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ, ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ ์ด์—๋กœ๋‹ˆ๋ฌด์Šค
CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌ

์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. 9๊ฐœ์›” ์‹ค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
First of all, about the market at slightly over plus 3% in the first 9 months. The global market remains dynamic. And in that context, our like-for-like growth sequentially accelerated, reaching plus 4.9% in the third quarter. That is, of course, adjusted for our IT transformation in the U.S. last year. As promised, the contribution from our Beauty Stimulus plan accelerated. We rolled out our first half innovations and launched new products, including our 2 latest fragrances, Prada's Paradigme and Miu Miuโ€™'s Miutine, both are off to a good start.๋จผ์ € ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฒซ 9๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ 3%๋ฅผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ผ์ดํฌํฌ๋ผ์ดํฌ(like-for-like) ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์€ ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜์–ด 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 4.9%์— ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ IT ์ „ํ™˜ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ •ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ์†๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ๊ณ„ํš์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ํ˜์‹  ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ”„๋ผ๋‹ค์˜ ํŒจ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค์ž„(Paradigme)๊ณผ ๋ฏธ์šฐ๋ฏธ์šฐ์˜ ๋ฏธ์šฐํ‹ด(Miutine) ๋“ฑ ์ตœ์‹  ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ 2์ข…์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๋Ÿฐ์นญํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‘ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ข‹์€ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
If I had to name some of my key highlights for the first 9 months, I would say the following: First, the gradual recovery in our 2 largest markets, Mainland China where we clearly outpaced the market and the U.S. where CPD gained market share in each of its categories for the first time since 2021 proved that innovation really is a game changer in beauty. Second, the ongoing strength in Hair Care & Fragrances now 30% of our sales, but also the bounce back in makeup, where we grew almost 3x above the market. And third, the continued dynamism in e-commerce that plays to our strength, enabling us to outperform us in the fastest-growing channel.์ฒซ 9๊ฐœ์›”๊ฐ„์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ผฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ 2๋Œ€ ์‹œ์žฅ์ธ ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ† ์—์„œ์˜ ์ ์ง„์  ํšŒ๋ณต์„ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ์•ž์งˆ๋ €๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” CPD๊ฐ€ 2021๋…„ ์ดํ›„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜์‹ ์ด ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ฒด์ธ์ €์ž„์„ ์ž…์ฆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘˜์งธ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 30%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ๋ฐ ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๊ฐ•์„ธ์™€ ๋”๋ถˆ์–ด, ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋ฐ˜๋“ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ 3๋ฐฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์…‹์งธ, ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฐ•์ ์„ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์ปค๋จธ์Šค์˜ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์—ญ๋™์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์•ž์„œ๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
On Sunday night, we announced the acquisition of Kering Beauty, including the Creed niche fragrance brand as well as the Beauty & Fragrances licenses of Balenciaga, Bottega Veneta and when available, Gucci. I'm extremely excited about this transaction. Not only does it cement our existing leadership in luxury beauty, I also see enormous potential for each 1 of these 4 brands. And we have proved our ability to turn licenses into billionaires. Today, YSL is as big in beauty as it is in fashion. Prada crossed the EUR 500 million mark just 4 years after joining the L'Orรฉal Luxe family. The future is now good, and I look forward to writing this new chapter.์ผ์š”์ผ ๋ฐค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ€๋ง ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์ธ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ๋“œ(Creed) ๋‹ˆ์น˜ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ๋ฐœ๋ Œ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€(Balenciaga), ๋ณดํ…Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๋„คํƒ€(Bottega Veneta), ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ตฌ์ฐŒ(Gucci)์˜ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ & ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค๊ฐ€ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์„ ๊ณต๊ณ ํžˆ ํ•  ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์ด 4๊ฐœ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค๋ฅผ 10์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋กœ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋‚ธ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ž…์ฆํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆcalls. ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  YSL์€ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ํŒจ์…˜ ๋ถ„์•ผ๋งŒํผ ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ž๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ผ๋‹ค(Prada)๋Š” ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ๋Ÿญ์Šค ํŒจ๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ์— ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•œ ์ง€ ๋ถˆ๊ณผ 4๋…„ ๋งŒ์— 5์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ŒํŒŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋ฐ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์žฅ์„ ์จ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And I'm truly delighted to do it with caring, a trusted partner for more than a decade and a half. And with that, we are all ready to take your questions.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  10๋…„ ๋ฐ˜์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์ธ ์ผ€์–ด๋ง๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์š”์•ฝ:
- 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 4.9% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ (๋ฏธ๊ตญ IT ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ „ํ™˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ ์ œ์™ธ)
- ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ 9๊ฐœ์›”๊ฐ„ 3% ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ ์œ ์ง€
- ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด์™€ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 30% ์ฐจ์ง€, ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋Œ€๋น„ 3๋ฐฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์‹œ์žฅ ๋™ํ–ฅ:
- ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ†  ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์—…๊ณ„ ํ‰๊ท  ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ CPD(Consumer Products Division) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ, 2021๋…„ ์ดํ›„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ ํ™•๋Œ€

โ€ข ์ „๋žต์  ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘:
- Kering Beauty ์ธ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ (Creed, Balenciaga, Bottega Veneta, Gucci ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค ํฌํ•จ)
- ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ๊ฐ•ํ™” ๊ธฐ๋Œ€
- ๊ธฐ์กด YSL, Prada ๋“ฑ ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต์  ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์‹ ๊ทœ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ ๊ฐ•์กฐ


โ“ Q&A

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Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question is from Guillaume Delmas, UBS. Guillaume Gerard Vincent Delmas Two questions for me, please. First one, on Europe. It did slow a little bit in the second quarter. I think it was your lowest quarterly like-for-like sales growth performance since the COVID years. So question here is, any particular temporary factors or any country that you would highlight that may have had an adverse impact on the region's growth in the quarter? I mean it seems to have been also a bit of a discrepancy between sell-in and sell-out. So whether that should continue going forward. And I guess also looking ahead, Nicolas, are you still confident that the beauty market in Europe today is structurally different than what it was a decade ago when L'Orรฉal's like-for-like sales growth was more muted, like low single-digit like-for-like? So still optimistic about Europe despite this small deceleration in Q2? That's my first question. And then the second one is on your Beauty Stimulus Plan and how we should think about it. I mean do you see it as a one-off, as in you're doing it in 2025 because the environment is particularly volatile and challenging. But after that, you're done? Or do you see scope for another Beauty Stimulus next year, basically doubling down, raising the bar further for 2026? And I guess related to that, in terms of funding this Beauty Stimulus Plan, would it be fair to say that initiatives like BETiq or expanding your shared services are key enablers for this beauty stimulus?**Operator:** ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ ์ดํ›„ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ๋™์ผ๋งค์žฅ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‚ฎ์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ง€์—ญ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ์•…์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค์„ ๋งŒํ•œ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ผ์‹œ์  ์š”์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ํŠน์ • ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ์…€์ธ(sell-in)๊ณผ ์…€์•„์›ƒ(sell-out) ๊ฐ„์—๋„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ์Šค, ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋‹ค๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด 10๋…„ ์ „๊ณผ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋‹น์‹œ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ์˜ ๋™์ผ๋งค์žฅ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด ์ €์กฐํ•œ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ๋กœ ๋” ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋•Œ์™€๋Š”์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋‘”ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ณ ์š”. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๋ถ€์–‘์ฑ…์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฑด๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฑธ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€์š”. ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ์ธ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ฆ‰, 2025๋…„์— ์‹œํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ํŠนํžˆ ๋ณ€๋™์„ฑ์ด ํฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์„œ์ธ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋Š” ๋๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‚ด๋…„์—๋„ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๋ถ€์–‘์ฑ…์„ ์‹œํ–‰ํ•  ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ 2026๋…„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋ฐ•์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋” ๋†’์ด๋Š” ์‹์œผ๋กœ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์ด ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ํ”Œ๋žœ์˜ ์ž๊ธˆ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, BETiq๋‚˜ ๊ณต์œ  ์„œ๋น„์Šค ํ™•์žฅ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์Šค์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So let's take it one by one. Well, on Europe, I'll start with the end, I remain optimistic because I see, first of all, the market overall remaining quite robust. The market in sell-out was around 4% growth in first half. So it's still significantly above the growth that we were experiencing pre-COVID. And one of the explanations of what appears to be a slowdown is what also is impacting our LDB division at global level is the impact of the last year's unfortunate strong presale and slow sell-out of the suncare season, which is particularly important for Europe. Overall, the market is at plus 4%. And if I look at countries, because you were asking about countries, some are doing really great: Germany, Spain, Eastern European countries in general, Greece. The one country that is a bit disappointing on the first half is France. Unfortunately, this is where the market is still growing but slower than the rest of the other markets. So it's our role to stimulate it and then also probably, I would say, a mood context in France, that's not as good as everywhere else. And we have -- we are broadly in line with the European market, above in three divisions and slightly below in CPD and with pretty strong plan in the second half. I was just in the U.K. a couple of weeks ago, and the teams there are quite positive and ambitious. Overall, I remain optimistic in Europe. And probably the why is that -- is this appetite for beauty that I see. I was talking about TikTok. But in Europe, the social media engagement on beauty is really high. And you have this double phenomenon of consumers, young consumers entering and being passionate about beauty. And of course, they shift from one category to another. Fragrance is super hot and haircare is super hot right now and makeup, a little bit more in no-makeup, makeup or lower color makeup trend. But overall, there's a great appetite for beauty. And we have this aging population that is very involved into skincare. So overall, I remain optimistic for Europe to remain above the pre-COVID level over there. So factors, suncare, sell-in and, in terms of countries, most doing great, France a bit subdued. As far as the Beauty Stimulus Plan, no it's not a one-off. Clearly, there's more competition out there. Everything goes faster. So we have -- we will be on, I would say, on an increased innovation rhythm, and what we've designed for 2025 which in the end is impacting mostly our second half even though a few of the launches started pretty well in the first half. This is going to be -- to have to be a new habit. So of course, as always, in launches, some are overperforming, some underperforming expectations. But clearly, the -- we want more launches. And you're right to say that overall, we need and want to develop our shared services, to develop the productivity of our investment to be able to support everything and to target really properly every cluster of consumers. Because of course, when you're selling to boomers like myself or to Gen Zs or very young consumers, you need to use different channels and that needs constant optimization. So no worries about Europe and clearly an intention to continue to boost and stimulate the market with more innovation.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜์”ฉ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ๋Ÿฝ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ฒฐ๋ก ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„  ์ „์ฒด ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹คํŒ๋งค(sell-out) ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์•ฝ 4% ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜19 ์ด์ „์— ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘”ํ™”๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์ƒ์˜ ์›์ธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ LDB ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์—๋„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ž‘๋…„ ์„ ํฌ๋ฆผ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์˜ ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‚ฌ์ „ํŒ๋งค(presale)์™€ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ•œ ์‹คํŒ๋งค์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ํŠนํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์ฃ .

์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 4%์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ณ„๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋…์ผ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋™์œ ๋Ÿฝ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ๋“ฑ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋А๋ฆฐ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ด๊ณ , ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ๋งŒํผ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋ณด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋งž์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 3๊ฐœ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๊ณ  CPD์—์„œ๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ•˜ํšŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ „์— ์˜๊ตญ์— ๋‹ค๋…€์™”๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ณณ ํŒ€๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๊ณ  ์˜์š•์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ด๋ง ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‹ฑํ†ก ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ๊ด€๋ จ ์†Œ์…œ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์ฐธ์—ฌ๋„๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ Š์€ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ์— ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ด์ •์„ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์ด์ค‘ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜์ฃ . ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์™€ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋†’๊ณ , ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์€ ๋…ธ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์ด๋‚˜ ์ €์ฑ„๋„ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๋กœ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋†’์€ ๊ณ ๋ น ์ธ๊ตฌ์ธต๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์ด ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜19 ์ด์ „ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋‚™๊ด€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์š”์ธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์„ ์ผ€์–ด, ์…€์ธ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ณ„๋กœ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์ž๊ทน ๊ณ„ํš(Beauty Stimulus Plan)๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ์š” ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ๋” ์น˜์—ดํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๋นจ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ˜์‹  ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋†’์—ฌ๊ฐˆ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, 2025๋…„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ถœ์‹œ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋„ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์Šต๊ด€์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ถœ์‹œ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ํ•˜ํšŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ณต์œ  ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๊ณ , ํˆฌ์ž ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์—ฌ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œ๋น„์ž ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ํƒ€๊ฒŸํŒ…ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„๋ถ€๋จธ ์„ธ๋Œ€๋‚˜ Z์„ธ๋Œ€, ๋˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ Š์€ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํŒ๋งคํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฑ„๋„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์ตœ์ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜์‹ ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž๊ทนํ•  ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์˜๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Patrick Folan of Barclays.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฐ”ํด๋ ˆ์ด์ฆˆ์˜ ํŒจํŠธ๋ฆญ ํด๋ž€์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Patrick Folan: Looking at North America specifically, it was a very strong Q2 like-for-like. Is this largely due to the hair performance and CeraVe regaining traction? Or was there any other market dynamics playing out where maybe competitors were raising prices to offset any tariff risk? Is that kind of a benefit for you guys from a competitive standpoint? And was there any pretariff buying in the U.S. in the quarter? And then maybe secondly, just on North Asia, looking at Consumer which underperformed a bit. Can you talk about maybe where the underperformance was specifically? And do you see that improving sequentially as we go into Q3 and Q4? And I know you talked about the shopping festival 6.18 looked quite strong. How has that been since, I guess, the festival? Conscious it's only a few weeks, but are we planning to see sequential acceleration in China in Q3 and Q4?**Patrick Folan:** ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์ผ ๋งค์žฅ ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ์ œํ’ˆ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์™€ CeraVe์˜ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ ํšŒ๋ณต ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ธ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ์žฅ ์—ญํ•™์ด ์ž‘์šฉํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ถ€๊ณผ ์ „ ์„ ๋งค์ž… ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„์˜ ์†Œ๋น„์žฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋А ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‡ผํ•‘ ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ 6.18์ด ๊ฝค ๊ฐ•ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ๋ฐ–์— ์•ˆ ๋๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ฐ์•ˆํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„, 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๊ณ„ํš์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: All right. So North America, I would say that the overall acceleration first comes from the market. Of course, we've done a bit better in CPD at the end of the quarter, which is good. But really, the market growth has been accelerated, which was flattish in the first quarter, closer to plus 2% or 3% in the second. And I think what was probably unusual and under expectation was the first quarter of the market. And I guess there was a little bit of consumers waiting, expectations about the new policy and there was a little bit of pause in consumption. And we see as consumers, I would say, are overall a bit reassured. We see consumption going back. It's a lot accelerated by online which is, by the way, a global trend. We see online overperforming brick-and-mortar in most parts of the world, true for us, true for the market. And so in the U.S., we've seen the market accelerating. Some categories indeed are strong. We have haircare that remains strong. Fragrance remains strong. Makeup, which was dragging us down, is improving. Still slightly negative in the U.S., but we see clearly an upward trend. It'll be stimulated by innovation but also probably by the same slight improvement in the mood. So I mean, we are confident that the U.S. market will continue to grow. As far as we are concerned, we gained share in three divisions, a lot on PPD and LDB, thanks to La Roche-Posay doing great, SkinCeuticals growing double digits. And CeraVe, to be honest, is a bit better but it's still -- it's not yet as great as we would like it. But it's moving back into better territories in skin and haircare. Nothing that competition gave us. There was no pre-tariff increases that other competitors have done and we didn't. So there's no benefit there. On Luxe, we are on par with market and, of course, driving the growth with fantastic performance in fragrances. The Valentino Born in Roma became recently #1 female fragrance in the U.S. Superb performance. And on CPD we're slightly below market because CPD is overweighted on makeup which, as I said, is still in the recovery process. And not present in mass fragrances and hygiene, which are the categories that are driving the market up. But we're really winning on haircare in CPD. So overall, we are quite confident. I must say that the early weeks of July where there was -- which are again a bit biased because there was the Prime Day festival for Amazon but overall it was pretty positive. So without going crazy, we see the U.S. market gaining traction on the second part of the year. On China, it's true that we are very happy with the 6.18 festival because in net GMV -- because we often -- the platforms publish their GMV. We look at net of returns because that's the real performance. We saw that the market was at plus 7% during this period. We were at plus 10%, so that was quite positive with a good performance of luxury brands, L'Orรฉal Paris, #1, and Lancรดme, #3. Biggest, of course, this festival -- and we know in China, this festival are hyped. So I don't see a major change in the Chinese market. The only thing is that the second part of the year will be much more favorable in terms of comparable because the last year second half for the market was much more difficult. Last year, the first half the market was at minus 2%. It was minus 4% on the full year. So it means that the second half was much lower. So in China, we see the market getting a bit better, mostly thanks to easier comps. And as far as the CPD performance in China, it's true that there's a fierce competition of Chinese brands, some of which, by the way, that were very negative in the 6.18 festival, so which confirms the kind of perception that there's always a high churn in the brands that -- in the indie brands phenomenon. But L'Orรฉal Paris is doing okay. We're struggling in makeup. And L'Orรฉal Paris has a pretty nice second half plan with hyaluronic acid filler and Age Perfect relaunch that should help a little bit. And we have also a very strong plan for Luxe. As we talk about Beauty Stimulus Plan, we have talked a lot about fragrance, but we're launching -- we've just placed on the market a new cream from Helena Rubinstein on Replasty. Replasty Age Recovery is today -- the existing product, is the #1 beauty item sold in China. And we are adding 1 SKU to that range with 60% Pro-Xylane, which is the highest concentration of this great ingredient, to the product. So we have high expectations on this product which is, by the way, a product that will be sold close to EUR 500. So when it sells, it's money in the bank. So China, the market for me, remains flattish which is better than last year and will have an easier comparative. And the U.S., we are optimistic for the second part of the year.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋Š” ์šฐ์„  ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋น„๋กฏ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง์— CPD์—์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ •์ฒด ์ƒํƒœ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 2~3%์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๊ณผ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ํŠน์ดํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ •์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์†Œ๋น„์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ผ์‹œ์ •์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด์ œ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์•ˆ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์˜ํ•ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์ด ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์ธ ๋งค์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „์ฒด์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜„์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋ ธ๋˜ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์€ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์†Œํญ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์ƒ์Šน ์ถ”์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜์‹ ์— ์˜ํ•ด ์ž๊ทน๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ์˜ ์†Œํญ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ์˜ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ด‰์ง„๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, 3๊ฐœ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. PPD์™€ LDB์—์„œ ํฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋’€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ผ๋กœ์Šˆํฌ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์Šคํ‚จ์Šˆํ‹ฐ์ปฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•œ ๋•๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ธ๋ผ๋ธŒ์ด๋Š” ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์™€ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ค€ ํ˜œํƒ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ด€์„ธ ์ธ์ƒ ์ „ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ƒ๋„ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ํ˜œํƒ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋™๋“ฑํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์˜ ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ฐ๋…ธ ๋ณธ ์ธ ๋กœ๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ทผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ 1์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  CPD(Consumer Products Division) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ฎ์€๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” CPD๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์— ๋น„์ค‘์ด ๋†’๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์€ ์•„์ง ํšŒ๋ณต ๊ณผ์ •์— ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ธ ๋Œ€์ค‘ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์™€ ์œ„์ƒ์šฉํ’ˆ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—๋Š” ์ง„์ถœํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ CPD์—์„œ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์Šน์Šน์žฅ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 7์›” ์ดˆ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด - ์•„๋งˆ์กด ํ”„๋ผ์ž„ ๋ฐ์ด ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋‹ค์†Œ ํŽธํ–ฅ๋œ ๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ - ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฝค ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณผ๋„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚™๊ด€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ํƒ„๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, 6.18 ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆœ GMV ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด - ํ”Œ๋žซํผ๋“ค์ด ์ข…์ข… GMV๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ˜ํ’ˆ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ์ˆœ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” - ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 7% ์„ฑ์žฅํ•œ ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 10%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 1์œ„, ๋ž‘์ฝค์ด 3์œ„๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์š”์ธ์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด ์ถ•์ œ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”, ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ถ•์ œ๋“ค์ด ๊ณผ๋Œ€ํฌ์žฅ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ํฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์–ด๋ ค์› ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ž‘๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 2%์˜€๊ณ , ์—ฐ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 4%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋‚ฎ์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ฃ . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์ด ์ˆ˜์›”ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ CPD ์„ฑ๊ณผ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์˜ ์น˜์—ดํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” 6.18 ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ธ๋”” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ํ˜„์ƒ์—์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋†’์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฅ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ธ์‹์„ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ์š”. ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ํžˆ์•Œ๋ฃจ๋ก ์‚ฐ ํ•„๋Ÿฌ์™€ ์—์ด์ง€ ํผํŽ™ํŠธ ๋ฆฌ๋Ÿฐ์นญ์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ํ”Œ๋žœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์˜ ๋ฆฌํ”Œ๋ผ์Šคํ‹ฐ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Replasty Age Recovery๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ํŒ๋งค๋˜๋Š” 1์œ„ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์ œํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๊ตฐ์— 60% Pro-Xylane์„ ํ•จ์œ ํ•œ SKU 1๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๋ถ„์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ  ๋†๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์€ 500์œ ๋กœ์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ํŒ๋งค๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒ๋งค๋˜๋ฉด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ต์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ์ด์ฃ .

์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ๋ณดํ•ฉ์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚˜์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๊ณ  ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€๋„ ๋” ์ˆ˜์›”ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋‚™๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Callum Elliott, Bernstein.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฒˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์˜ ์นผ๋Ÿผ ์—˜๋ฆฌ์—‡์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Callum Elliott: I wanted to start asking you about skincare. I'm struck by the negative organic growth in the first half of the year that I'm sure you guys are not happy with. You're obviously still allocating capital to skin, you just bought Medik8, so you clearly don't see it as a structural problem with the category. So just hoping to get you to talk about what's going on with skincare today, how much of this is the weak market versus issues in your own business? And in particular, what are you doing to stimulate the market in skincare? Specifically, we've heard a lot about fragrance but interested in stimulus for skin. And then my second question is on gross margins. 10 basis points of compression, gross margin compression in the first half of the year. Obviously, Christophe, as you said, you manage the P&L on an annual basis. But I was struck by that, which obviously means that the majority of the margin expansion that you're seeing is coming from the cuts to ad spend, which I guess is probably not what you would consider to be the optimal kind of shape of the P&L to be driving margin expansion from ad spend cuts. So just hoping to get you to talk a little bit about the drivers of the gross margin compression in H1 and whether we should expect those to persist.**Callum Elliott:** ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋จผ์ € ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์œ ๊ธฐ์  ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ธ์ƒ์ ์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ถ„๋ช… ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ์ž๋ณธ์„ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ณ , ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ Medik8์„ ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•˜์…จ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ด๋ฅผ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์œผ๋กœ ์ดํ•ด๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ ์•ฝ์„ธ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ž์‚ฌ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์ž๊ทน์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 10๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  ์••๋ฐ•์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์†์ต์„ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์ธ์ƒ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ™•๋Œ€์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋น„ ์‚ญ๊ฐ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งˆ์ง„ ํ™•๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์†์ต ๊ตฌ์กฐ์˜ ์ตœ์  ํ˜•ํƒœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ด๋งˆ์ง„ ์••๋ฐ• ์š”์ธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ , ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So I will take the skincare section. You're right to say we're not happy, I'm not happy about skincare, but I would just take it with a pinch of salt. The first one is that as you know, and we had to live with this until the first half of this year, skincare is the category impacted by the -- the biggest -- by the discrepancy between sell-in and sell-out, and the same as suncare stocking of last year. If you take LDB, just to go back to that division, which is our skincare champion which is doing great, as you saw in invoicing, the division is at a plus 3% growth; where in sell-out year-to-date, the division is at 6.7%. So you have twice -- you have more than 3.6 points of gross difference. So that impacts -- that would make skincare net positive instead of being slightly negative. This being said, we are not very happy. The second impact is clearly as long as North Asia, which is the biggest worldwide market in skincare and particularly China, doesn't recover, it's hard to get strong traction in skincare. That's what we are trying to stimulate with launches on L'Orรฉal Paris in China; on Helena Rubinstein, the new Absolue Longevity Cream; and there's more to come. There's a lotion on Gรฉnifique. So we're trying to animate that Chinese and North Asian market, which is right now taking the category down. And then overall, if we're totally honest, there's also more competition. Everybody's got excited about indeed skincare and particularly medical positioned skincare. So we're happy that we grow faster than the market with LDB. But there's lots of competition out there. So that's why we acquired Medik8 because it's a fantastic brand that has great formulas. And it's interesting because it's both a derm positioning that is very hot but also a premium and luxury positioning. So it's a channel where you don't see many of these brands. So that, I think, is going to get us a lot of traction. It's a brand that's mostly U.K. today, and half of their business -- a bit more than half of their business, they are a little bit in the U.S. So a big opportunity on Medik8. We have also -- I mentioned the launches of Lancรดme. And I think on CPD, that's where we have to do an even better job. So we have a few good things happening. We are rolling out Mixa again, which is a dermatological mass brand, so very affordable. It's at plus 35 or something and it's flying across Europe. So it was a French-only brand and now every country in Europe wants it and we'll see about the other countries in the world. We have acquired Dr.G to boost the CPD skincare presence in North Asia. And we have one small but growing skincare specialist brand in America with Dr. Thayers. So more brands, more specialist brands in skincare, more innovations trying to occupy all the price points of the spectrum. So it's the fight ahead of us. And we have both -- because we are not happy, we are eager to fight back.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋„ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ข€ ๋” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ๋‚ดํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ธ๋ฐ, ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด๋Š” ์…€์ธ(sell-in)๊ณผ ์…€์•„์›ƒ(sell-out) ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒฉ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ ์„ ์ผ€์–ด ์žฌ๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

LDB๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด, LDB๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์ฑ”ํ”ผ์–ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ๋ณด์ด์‹ฑ์—์„œ ๋ณด์…จ๋“ฏ์ด ์ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 3% ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์—ฐ์ดˆ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์…€์•„์›ƒ์—์„œ๋Š” 6.7%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 3.6ํฌ์ธํŠธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ด ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋Ÿฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ˆœ์ฆ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์‹œ์žฅ์ธ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„, ํŠนํžˆ ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์—์„œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ๋Ÿฐ์นญ, ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•ฑ์†”๋คผ ๋กฑ์ œ๋น„ํ‹ฐ ํฌ๋ฆผ์œผ๋กœ ์ž๊ทนํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๋‹ˆํ”ผํฌ์—๋„ ๋กœ์…˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋„ ๋” ์น˜์—ดํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฉ”๋””์ปฌ ํฌ์ง€์…”๋‹ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ LDB๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์€ ๊ธฐ์˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹œ์žฅ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ Medik8์„ ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋”๋งˆ ํฌ์ง€์…”๋‹๊ณผ ๋™์‹œ์— ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ํฌ์ง€์…”๋‹์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ฑ„๋„์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์˜๊ตญ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ด๊ณ , ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„ - ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋˜๋Š” ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ง„์ถœํ•ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Medik8์—๋Š” ํฐ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋˜ํ•œ ์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ž‘์ฝค์˜ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  CPD ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์˜ ๋”๋งˆํ†จ๋กœ์ง€์ปฌ ๋งค์Šค ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ธ Mixa๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 35 ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์ „์—ญ์—์„œ ๋‚ ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›๋ž˜๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์ „์šฉ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด์ œ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์—์„œ๋„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„์—์„œ CPD ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์ž…์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ฅํ„ฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ฅํ„ฐ ํ…Œ์ด์–ด์Šค๋ผ๋Š” ์ž‘์ง€๋งŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์ „๋ฌธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์ „๋ฌธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜์‹ ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ๋Œ€ ์ŠคํŽ™ํŠธ๋Ÿผ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ตฌ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ž์— ๋†“์ธ ์‹ธ์›€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐ˜๊ฒฉํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Babule: Okay. Regarding the gross margin, maybe I will add a little bit of color on where do we stand. So basically, what you see in the P&L end of June is a negative impact of 10 basis points, which is actually the structural effect linked to the integration of Dr.G and hyperinflation. And then we have two opposite impacts. On one side, we have a positive 30 basis points due to conversion, this will last; and a negative impact of 30 basis points on comparable. And this we have inside, of course, positive effects from Mixa, from pricing, and this may further improve in the second half. And we have a one-off that will disappear, it's a technical aspect because of the change of methodology. So we have a negative 25 basis points on supply chains. That will disappear. So objective is, of course, as you know, keep our high level of gross margin and absorb the impact of tariffs that is stronger in the second half than the first half. And well, we've been already preparing the mitigation plans, mainly in the U.S. So we are quite confident on our capacity to keep our gross margin high.**Christophe Babule:** ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 6์›” ๋ง ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ์—์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด 10bp์˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” Dr.G ํ†ตํ•ฉ๊ณผ ์ดˆ์ธํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์  ํšจ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๋œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ํ™˜์œจ ๋ณ€๋™์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ 30bp์˜ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” 30bp์˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  Mixa์™€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ •์ฑ…์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ธ์ •์  ํšจ๊ณผ๋“ค์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์š”์ธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋ก  ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ์ธก๋ฉด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์—์„œ 25bp์˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ํก์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์™„ํ™” ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์„ ๋†’๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Fon Udomsilpa, RBC.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ RBC์˜ Fon Udomsilpa๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa: So two questions for me, please. One -- another one from Beauty Stimulus Plan. So with more active launches, could you provide any color on how much these new products and new launches contribute to growth in the first half? And the second one is on A&P spending heading into the second half. Is it fair to assume that the benefit from BETiq will increase with more rollout but, at the same time, with more launches coming when marketing campaigns also step up as well? Any color on that would be great.**Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa:** ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ํ”Œ๋žœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P) ์ง€์ถœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BETiq์˜ ํ™•์‚ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ํ˜œํƒ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ์ง€์š”? ๋™์‹œ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ๋„ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋  ํ…๋ฐ, ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Excuse me. The sound quality was not great. Would you mind repeating the second part of your question? Because I got the question about the contribution launches on the first half, but not the end of the question. Apologies.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ์งˆ์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋„ค์š”. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ ์ถœ์‹œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋†“์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa: Yes, of course. So the second one is on A&P spending into the second half. Is it fair to assume that benefit from BETiq will increase with more rollout but, at the same time, with more launches coming, will marketing campaigns also step up? So how should we think about momentum of A&P spending for the rest of the year?**Wassachon Fon Udomsilpa:** ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ A&P ์ง€์ถœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BETiq ํ™•์‚ฐ์ด ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ํ˜œํƒ๋„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ์ง€, ๋™์‹œ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ๋„ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋‚จ์€ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ A&P ์ง€์ถœ์˜ ๋ชจ๋ฉ˜ํ…€์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So contribution of launches, in the first half, it was around 100 basis points. And the objective, of course, with all the uncertainties related to new products, it's 300 in the second half. So we expect more launches in the second half. In the first half, we had some -- the ones that blew my mind because it's really well above expectation is Gloss Absolu from Kรฉrastase, which makes the brand growing in the high teens, and that's just starting to be rolled out. We have a few others coming. We've just launched a new mascara on Maybelline called Colossal Bubble, which is also growing over expectations. And as always, we have a few others that are a bit below expectations. So more launches in the second half. Of course, fragrance, we've known fragrance, quite a bit of skincare and makeup, too. And as far as A&P are concerned, I wouldn't make specific extrapolations. Yes, BETiq will improve more, will give us more flexibility and more productivity. We will have to support these launches and the catalog. But also, we have to be very agile because as I said, now the name of the game in this world of influencers, very fast rocket takeoffs and some others that do not react as well, we have to be super agile to allocate permanently and reallocate our resources to whatever is flying. I think that's a bit the new name of the game, this idea that you would consistently support a pillar brand forever is a bit past. You have, of course, to keep you supporting your catalog. But when you have fast-flying engine rocket or whatever, you have to instantly put more fuel in to potentialize it in the maximum way. So it will be, as always, at L'Orรฉal all about real-time management, flexibility and when we can add, we will add. And sometimes, if we have to reduce some others, we'll do it, too.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋„ค, ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ 100๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” 300๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ค‘์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ€๋ผ์Šคํƒ€์ฆˆ์˜ ๊ธ€๋กœ์Šค ์••์†”๋ฃจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์›ƒ๋„๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋กœ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ 10%๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋„ ์ค€๋น„ ์ค‘์ด๊ณ , ๋ฉ”์ด๋ธ”๋ฆฐ์—์„œ ์ฝœ๋กœ์„ค ๋ฒ„๋ธ”์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋งˆ์Šค์นด๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ƒํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ชป ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๋„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์™€ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. A&P ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ถ”์ •์น˜๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, BETiq๊ฐ€ ๋” ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Ÿฐ์นญ๊ณผ ์นดํƒˆ๋กœ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์ง€์›ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ์ฒฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ธํ”Œ๋ฃจ์–ธ์„œ๋“ค์˜ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅธ ๋กœ์ผ“ ๊ฐ™์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๋‚ ์•„์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์›์„ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฌ๋ฐฐ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋ฏผ์ฒฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์˜ ๋ฃฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์˜์›ํžˆ ์ผ๊ด€๋˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์นดํƒˆ๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ์ง€์›ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์—”์ง„ ๋กœ์ผ“์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฐ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•ด์„œ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ์˜ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์™”๋“ฏ์ด ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์™€ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ค„์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Olivier Nicolai, Goldman Sachs.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ์‚ญ์Šค์˜ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋น„์— ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ์ด๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jean-Olivier Nicolai: Two questions, please. First of all, going back to the tariffs in the U.S., I understand it's a sensitive topic. But I would expect -- would you expect an impact from Q4 this year or perhaps even next year considering your level of inventories already in the U.S.? And what can you do to mitigate the impact on the 30% of products which are imported from Europe and sold in the U.S? And then secondly, I've noticed that Aesop has been growing double digits in H1. I think last year, you indicated it was more like in the high single digits. So it's been certainly accelerating. Could you give us more details on the performance? Is it driven by fragrances there? Or is it the store rollout? And how much run rate do you see for this brand which you bought, I believe, 18 months ago?**Jean-Olivier Nicolai:** ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ์š”. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ์žฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ ์˜ฌํ•ด 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ๋‚ด๋…„์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์ž…ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ 30%์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์™„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์ด์†์ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„์—๋Š” ๋†’์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋งค์žฅ ํ™•์žฅ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  18๊ฐœ์›” ์ „์— ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: So I'll start with Aesop, and you want to jump in on tariffs?**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ด์†๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ๊ณ , ๊ด€์„ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: So Aesop is doing great. It's, of course, as always, it's a blend of like-for-like growth and store opening. The brand is doing pretty well in China. By the way, I visited the stores, there's lots of people there. We're overall very happy with the brand. I think it probably meets the needs of many people to find some relaxation, peace of mind and bliss in this crazy world we live in. So overall very happy. We are indeed enhancing the visibility. And we've just launched two new fragrances, but so we are we're working on making the fragrances which were a bit of a hidden gem within Aesop a bit more visible in the store. But I wouldn't say that's the reason why for the acceleration. I think the brand has got good traction. It's been perfectly integrated right now in the team. They have a good combination of L'Orรฉalean at the helm, and 1 of the 2 founders are still working with us and very happy to see the brand developing. So yes, so I would not make predictions about the run rate, but let's say, we're on track. Clearly, we lost a year at some point at the beginning with the second COVID closure of China, but we're happy right now. And clearly, we keep the strength of the brand on whatever -- whether it's cleansing, body products, and we are bringing skincare innovations with our lab's formulas that will kick in probably a bit more next year. And we are indeed enhancing the fragrance visibility. So overall, happy and confident.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ด์†์€ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ๊ธฐ์กด ๋งค์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ์‹ ๊ทœ ๋งค์žฅ ๊ฐœ์ ์ด ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ํœด์‹๊ณผ ๋งˆ์Œ์˜ ํ‰ํ™”, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ–‰๋ณต์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋‹ˆ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ด์† ๋‚ด์—์„œ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ˆจ๊ฒจ์ง„ ๋ณด์„ ๊ฐ™์•˜๋˜ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ์ข€ ๋” ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”์˜ ์ด์œ ๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ง€๊ธˆ ํŒ€ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ์ถœ์‹  ์ธ์žฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์„ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ฐฝ๋ฆฝ์ž 2๋ช… ์ค‘ 1๋ช…์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ๋ปํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์กฐํ•ฉ์„ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋Ÿฐ๋ ˆ์ดํŠธ(run rate)์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ธก์€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์— ์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ด‰์‡„๋กœ ์ธํ•ด 1๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์†์‹ค์„ ๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํด๋ Œ์ง•์ด๋“  ๋ฐ”๋”” ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๋“  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๊ฐ•์ ์„ ๊ณ„์† ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์†Œ์˜ ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ํ˜์‹ ์„ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋‚ด๋…„์— ์ข€ ๋” ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ๋„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Babule: So coming back now to the tariff. Well, first, we have now much more visibility on what will be the second half. Maybe to give a little bit more color on what could be the impact. As of today, because of course there are some maybe tariffs that will still move in Canada or in Mexico, but when Nicolas says the situation is manageable, it means that the impact could be less than 40 basis points as of today. Second, as you know, we've been building a little bit of stock there to mitigate the impact on the second half. So this, of course, is helping. And obviously, there are some divisions that have been already planning for a tariff increase in the second half, and this also will help on the P&L of this year. What is important is already to foresee what will be the impact on 2026. And here, I have to say that we have different initiatives mainly in operations to see, on some categories, we're thinking in the perfume, for example, what can be done to mitigate those tariffs on the long term.**Christophe Babule:** ์ด์ œ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์šฐ์„  ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋†’์•„์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž ์žฌ์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค๋‚˜ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์—์„œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋ณ€๋™์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด 40๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘˜์งธ๋กœ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์™„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์žฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์Œ“์•„๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช…๋ฐฑํžˆ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๊ด€์„ธ ์ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€๋น„ํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์„ธ์›Œ๋‘์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ ์—ญ์‹œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ์†์ต์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ 2026๋…„์— ๋ฏธ์น  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ฃผ๋กœ ์šด์˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ด€์„ธ๋ฅผ ์™„ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: So short term, it's manageable in the P&L this year. If we look midterm, I think we are really waiting for, if I can use that expression, for the dust to settle because there are other bilateral discussions that are happening between the U.S. and Mexico, the U.S. and Canada, the U.S. and Brazil. So we are waiting for -- to have the clear picture to see whether we need to make any production moves from here to there and a few other mitigations, like you can do first sales in products that are exported to France, which we use as the base for tariff applications. So there are several mitigations being studied, and we'll see when they are done. And by the way, I'm not giving up on trying to convince the European authorities to negotiate some exemptions for cosmetics. Who knows? You have to try.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ(P&L)์—์„œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ •๋ฆฌ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฐ„์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–‘์ž ํ˜‘์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ €๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ ์ด์ „ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์™„ํ™” ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ด€์„ธ ์ ์šฉ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ถœ๋˜๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์ดˆํšŒ ํŒ๋งค๋ฅผ ๋จผ์ € ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์™„ํ™” ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ๋“ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์–ธ์ œ ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ด ๋‚ ์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณผ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ €๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ๋‹น๊ตญ์„ ์„ค๋“ํ•ด์„œ ํ™”์žฅํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฉด์ œ๋ฅผ ํ˜‘์ƒํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์‹œ๋„ํ•ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Sarah Simon, Morgan Stanley.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ชจ๊ฑด์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ผ ์‚ฌ์ด๋จผ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Sarah Simon: I've got two questions. First one was on sun sell-in. I think the really big -- the really tough one was in Q1 and that it sort of eased in Q2 and then got a bit easier in Q3. Can you just remind us of the phasing there, please? And then the second one was on -- in China, I think Helena Rubinstein had a pretty strong performance, particularly during 6.18. And it's obviously quite a mature brand. I'm just wondering what's behind that. Is it just a resurgence after a period of being a bit quieter? Or were there particular kind of strategies behind that?**Sarah Simon:** ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์„  ์ œํ’ˆ ํŒ๋งค๋Ÿ‰์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ์™„ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ข€ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ณ„ ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์ด ํŠนํžˆ 6.18 ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฝค ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์„ฑ์ˆ™ํ•œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ธ๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์˜ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์ด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์กฐ์šฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ถ€ํ™œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ „๋žต์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด์ง€์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: I'll take Helena Rubinstein whilst we try to find the data somewhere on the question on suncare. With Helena, you're right overall on the phasing you're describing. But I will let Christophe see where he can find that. No, Helena Rubinstein is a fantastic success story in North Asia. And it's linked to, I would say, three main phenomenons. One is the fact that, I would say, the upper classes of China are really aspiring to high-quality luxury and high-end luxury. And if you look at the overall performance of the Chinese market, the top, top end, be it in fragrance or in skincare remains stronger and more dynamic than the what I would call the mid-premium brand like Biotherm, which is more affordable, is less protected. So there is this appetite for quality. Then the second reason is that we have -- frankly, I think we have the best skincare formulas. I think they have the best skincare formulas in the L'Orรฉal Group and, therefore, they have the best skincare formulas, I think, in the market. And this Age Recovery Replasty jar, which the Chinese called the black bandage because it acts on skin like a bandage, is the #1 selling beauty product in China and maybe in North Asia in value because it's just a fantastic formula. But it goes beyond that. There's also the question of service. Because it's premium, you go to any counter or mini boutique that we have in China, you have cabins where services, skincare facials are provided. So here, we are talking about a brand that has a limited number of consumers but that are super loyal and very high spenders with a very strong CRM and great services. So that makes it a beautiful jewel, and that's why the launch of this Replasty P50, so with 50% Pro-Xylane that has just been shipped at the end of June and is now going to be supportive for the second and third quarter, raises a lot of expectations for us. And if you have the chance to use that cream, I'm sure Eva can send you one, it's just phenomenal. So very, very excited about that brand, which is a niche brand but a very successful one. Suncare, you want to -- you found?**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๊ณ , ์„ ์ผ€์–ด ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‹จ๊ณ„์  ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ—ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์€ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ์„ฑ๊ณต ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ฃผ์š” ํ˜„์ƒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ƒ๋ฅ˜์ธต์ด ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•˜์ด์—”๋“œ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋“  ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด๋“  ์ตœ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”์ด์˜ค๋ค(Biotherm) ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฏธ๋“œ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”์ด์˜ค๋ค์€ ๋” ์ €๋ ดํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด, ์ตœ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์š•๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด '๋ธ”๋ž™ ๋ฐด๋””์ง€'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ์ด ์—์ด์ง€ ๋ฆฌ์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ ๋ฆฌํ”Œ๋ž˜์Šคํ‹ฐ ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ํ”ผ๋ถ€์— ๋ฐด๋“œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์ „์ฒด์—์„œ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ 1์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๋Š” ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์ œํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋น„์Šค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ ๋ถ€ํ‹ฐํฌ ์–ด๋””๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋”๋ผ๋„ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ํŽ˜์ด์…œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ์ „์šฉ ์บ๋นˆ์ด ๋งˆ๋ จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ œํ•œ์ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ถฉ์„ฑ๋„๊ฐ€ ๋†’๊ณ  ์ง€์ถœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ํฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ CRM๊ณผ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋ณด์„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 50% ํ”„๋กœ-์ž์ผ๋ž€(Pro-Xylane)์„ ํ•จ์œ ํ•œ ๋ฆฌํ”Œ๋ผ์Šคํ‹ฐ P50(Replasty P50) ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ 6์›” ๋ง์— ์ถœํ•˜๋˜์–ด ์ด์ œ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด์–ด์„œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜น์‹œ ๊ทธ ํฌ๋ฆผ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด๋ณผ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์—๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ํ…๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‹ˆ์ƒˆ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ ์ผ€์–ด๋Š”, ์ฐพ์œผ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
Christophe Babule: Yes. Maybe I will give you some more information on suncare, of course, speaking on the Dermatological Beauty division. So as you know, suncare is important for this division, it's probably less than 15% of the sales. And coming back off the pattern of our sales last year, it's true that we had a very strong sell-in in Q1. Actually, we are still fighting with a plus 40% that we did in Q1 last year.and then gradually sequentially has been decreasing very fast. Q2 was already a plus 1% and then negative in Q3. So of course, there is a big gap between what you see in the sell-in linked to that and what is happening on the sell-out, what I think Nicolas explained very well. That's why we are actually happy about the results of our sell-out in suncare, but still impacting the visibility of our growth in...**Christophe Babule:** ๋„ค, ํ”ผ๋ถ€๊ณผํ•™ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์˜ ์„ ์ผ€์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์„ ์ผ€์–ด๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€์—์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 15% ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ํŒจํ„ด์„ ๋Œ์•„๋ณด๋ฉด, 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์…€์ธ(sell-in)์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ 40% ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ๋Š” ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ 1% ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค์˜€๊ณ , 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์…€์ธ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์‹ค์ œ ์…€์•„์›ƒ(sell-out)์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š” ํฐ ๊ฒฉ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋‹ˆ์ฝœ๋ผ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์„ ์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์™„ํŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ €ํฌ ์„ฑ์žฅ์˜ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์—๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
Nicolas Hieronimus: This being said that unfortunately, this is -- suncare is the most unpredictable business we have because if I look at this year, the start of the summer was phenomenal in Europe. It was -- the sun was shining and everything. It's been a week, at least in France, where it's raining every day. And in the U.S. was the opposite. They had a very pretty bad July, early July, end of June. Now it's sunny. So it's only at the end of the season that you really know whether it's going to be great or not. But the good thing is that we will have finished offsetting our inventory overload at the end of the first half.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ์„ ์ผ€์–ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—… ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์‚ฌ์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์ด ์ •๋ง ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ํ–‡๋ณ•์ด ์จ์จ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ ์–ด๋„ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งค์ผ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ์ •๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์˜€์–ด์š”. 6์›” ๋ง๊ณผ 7์›” ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ํ–‡๋ณ•์ด ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์ด ๋๋‚˜์•ผ๋งŒ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ์žฌ๊ณ  ๊ณผ๋ถ€ํ•˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Celine Pannuti at JPMorgan.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ JPMorgan์˜ Celine Pannuti๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Celine A.H. Pannuti: My first question is on market growth. If I look at Slide 3 where you look at the acceleration in the second quarter, North America, it seems was mid-single digit in Q2 in terms of growth. So I would like to understand if you could explain which category grew mid- single digit in North America. And then as well, emerging market accelerated in Q2, which is a bit contrary to some of your peers across different categories, talking about the deceleration, for instance, in Latin America and maybe a bit cautious comment on Asia. So if you could comment on this. And then my second question is on North Asia. We've seen the better performance in Mainland China. At the same time, it seems that Travel Retail was down. Can you say how much down was Travel Retail? And what does that mean for the second half of the year? I understand you said that there is an easy comparative in Mainland China, but I think the Travel Retail was better in the second half of the year last year. So net-net, where do we stand on North Asia from -- for the second half of the year?**Celine A.H. Pannuti:** ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ 3์—์„œ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์ด 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ ํฅ์‹œ์žฅ๋„ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ๋‘”ํ™”๋‚˜ ์•„์‹œ์•„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๋œ ๋ชจ์Šต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ† ์—์„œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™์‹œ์— ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ(Travel Retail)์€ ํ•˜๋ฝํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ† ์—์„œ ๋น„๊ต ๊ธฐ์ค€์ด ๋‚ฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ž‘๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์ด ๋” ์ข‹์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So I think on North America, we gave some of the questions -- we answered that question, but happy to talk about it. So indeed, the market accelerated between the first quarter and the second one. And I think the first quarter was artificially low. All categories have been growing except makeup. And makeup is improving, it's still slightly negative but has been improving. And the categories that have most driven the growth in the U.S. market are haircare and fragrance. And if we exclude our own footprint, hygiene has also been pretty dynamic in the U.S., but we are not really playing in that domain. So the categories that are the drivers of growth are fragrance and haircare.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋„ค, ๋ถ๋ฏธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋” ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ธ์œ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ฎ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์€ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฒฌ์ธํ•œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด์™€ ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์ž์ฒด ์‚ฌ์—… ์˜์—ญ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๋ฉด ์œ„์ƒ์šฉํ’ˆ๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ์—ญ๋™์ ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์™€ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Celine A.H. Pannuti: Can you comment by channel? Is the Luxe market and the mass market back to mid-single digits in the U.S.?**Celine A.H. Pannuti:** ์ฑ„๋„๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋Œ€์ค‘ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ๋กœ ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์š”.

๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์ฑ„๋„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํšŒ๋ณต์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์†Œ๋งค์—…์ฒด๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์— ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋Œ€์ค‘ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ฑ„๋„๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋“œ๋Ÿญ์Šคํ† ์–ด๋‚˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์†Œ๋งค์ ์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ํŒ๋งค๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ฑ๋น„๋ฅผ ์ค‘์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฉ”์ธ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์ด ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‘ ์ฑ„๋„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ •์ƒํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ๋น„ ํŒจํ„ด์ด ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ์ด์ „ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์‹œ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋ผ๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: The mass market is the one that is the most dynamic today. Like by the way, if you take it at the group level, it's quite true. But -- and luxury remains -- you see that overall, the luxury market at global level is flattish. So in the U.S., it remains slightly positive and it's mostly a fragrance play. Dermo is positive but it's the one channel that had slowed down the most from last year, but it's slightly positive, low single digits. And Professional is a mix of two stories between salon market, which remains sluggish, and the professional haircare markets, be it in selective or online, which is extremely dynamic. And overall, the online market in the U.S. is more dynamic than the brick and mortar. So that's what I can tell you about the U.S. market. Your second question, Celine, was on?**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋Œ€์ค‘์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ „์ฒด ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ - ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ •์ฒด ์ƒํƒœ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์†Œํญ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ๋•๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”๋ชจ(Dermo) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ž‘๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‘”ํ™”๋œ ์ฑ„๋„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์†Œํญ ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค, ๋‚ฎ์€ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ”„๋กœํŽ˜์…”๋„ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๋œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ˜ผ์žฌ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ด๋กฑ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ•œ ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด, ์…€๋ ‰ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋‚˜ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ์˜ ํ”„๋กœํŽ˜์…”๋„ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์ธ ๋งค์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”, ์…€๋ฆฐ?
Celine A.H. Pannuti: Sorry, it was the same question, the acceleration in emerging markets, which -- well, great for you, but it seems a bit differentiated commentary that we get from Consumer in emerging markets feeling the pinch, especially in Latin America.**Celine A.H. Pannuti:** ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ๋„ค์š”. ์‹ ํฅ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™” ๋ง์ธ๋ฐ์š” - ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ท€ํ•˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹ ํฅ์‹œ์žฅ ์†Œ๋น„์žฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๋…ผํ‰๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ฐจ๋ณ„ํ™”๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Well, for us, Latin America remains pretty dynamic. It has slowed down a bit, particularly in Mexico, which has a little bit of uncertainty regarding their situation in the U.S. So the underlying market growth has slowed down from low teens in 2024 to high single digits in the first half. So it's slower than last year. But you have some markets that are very dynamic. Brazil is very dynamic. Mexico is quite resilient. We have less bad news or, I should say, more good news from Argentina, though it's quite small. We see that there is, in some categories, we are gaining share from the door-to-door players. It's particularly true in makeup. So we are growing ahead of the market, gaining strong shares in Brazil with CPD. By the way, there was an earlier question on skincare. That's one of my highlights because we launched this on Garnier, this product, this little jar called Toque Seco, which are incredible new formulas that are flying. And that were initially a Brazil play and that we've decided to expand to the whole emerging hot climate countries because it's a texture that's perfect for them. And so we outperformed in three divisions in Latin America, PPD, Luxe and CPD. And LDB, we have a -- we're challenged in Brazil but winning anywhere else. So overall, I wouldn't say -- I can have a crystal ball and say that Latin America is going to be flying. But I was in Mexico 2 weeks ago. And of course, there's a lot of expectations like what's going to be the outcome of the discussions on tariffs with the American administration. But we see -- we continue to see a dynamic market. So we remain ambitious for Latin America; as we are for SAPMENA, where we are basically gaining share everywhere but Indonesia. But still have potential to accelerate. So what we see is a market that is a bit slower than last year, but overall pretty dynamic. I don't know what competitors say. That's...**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜๊ธด ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์—์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์ € ์‹œ์žฅ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์ด 2024๋…„ 10% ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์—์„œ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฟ์ˆ˜ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋А๋ฆฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ด๊ณ , ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์•„์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ๊ฝค ์ž‘์ง€๋งŒ์š”.

์ผ๋ถ€ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํŒ๋งค ์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์—์„œ CPD๋กœ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์•ž์„œ ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ๋ฐ, ๊ฐ€๋ฅด๋‹ˆ์—์—์„œ ํ† ์ผ€ ์„ธ์ฝ”(Toque Seco)๋ผ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์šฉ๊ธฐ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌ๋ฎฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ํŒ”๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๊ฒจ๋ƒฅํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋”์šด ๊ธฐํ›„์˜ ์‹ ํฅ๊ตญ ์ „์ฒด๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐํ›„์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํ…์Šค์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ PPD, ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ, CPD ์„ธ ๊ฐœ ์‚ฌ์—…๋ถ€ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. LDB์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์Šน์Šน์žฅ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ •๊ตฌ์Šฌ์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ ์•„์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 2์ฃผ ์ „์— ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์— ๋‹ค๋…€์™”๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ–‰์ •๋ถ€์™€์˜ ๊ด€์„ธ ๋…ผ์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•ผ์‹ฌ์ ์ธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , SAPMENA ์ง€์—ญ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ธ๋„๋„ค์‹œ์•„๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•  ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž‘๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ฝค ์—ญ๋™์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ...
Christophe Babule: There was also a question on North Asia. Maybe I can give you a few information. First on Mainland China because I think it's very important to remind what has been the dynamic in the last quarters in China. As you know, when we look at the market, the situation where we see the market really negative was Q3 last year and then progressively catching up, still negative on Q4. This year, we've seen a market at around 0% both in Q1 and Q2. So at least we are out from this negative territory. And in this context, of course, we have our sell-in that is turned to positive territories. So that's why we feel that the second half will be helped by prices. And when it comes to the Travel Retail, here the situation is still complex. The market in Asia is still negative.**Christophe Babule:** ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ณธํ† ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์—ญํ•™ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์˜€๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํ›„ ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์•ฝ 0% ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ €ํฌ ์…€์ธ(sell-in)์ด ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ƒ์Šน์ด ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ณต์žกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์•„์ง๋„ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค ์ƒํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Yes, in high teens negative. What's happening in the Travel Retail market overall, so the market is high teens negative and we are low teens negative. So gaining share. And it's really a tale of two cities because you see, on the one hand, because the traffic is increasing, the airports are really growing. The markets in airports is overall very positive, like plus 8 or something like that. And it's very negative in what used to be called the downtown stores, which had been opened by many players back in the days probably to -- when there was less traveling and also were fueled with the daigou business. And you've seen Korea, many of these downtown stores in Seoul that are closing. You see the example of France, as France Samaritaine has been transferred under the leadership of Bon Marchรฉ because as a tourist destination, as the Chinese tourists do not travel so much in groups, it was less relevant. And we see that Hainan despite being pretty heavy in traffic, it remained very negative in the minus 25-ish in terms of sell-out. So we have a reconfiguration of Travel Retail back to what it was and should have remained, which is travelers, individual drivers, business opportunity and a brand exposure opportunity. And clearly that's what -- as we said, had it not been for Travel Retail, our North Asia business would have been positive for this first half.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋„ค, 10๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์ฒด ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์‹œ์žฅ์€ 10๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์ด๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” 10๋Œ€ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .

์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๋œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ตํ†ต๋Ÿ‰์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ณตํ•ญ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ณตํ•ญ ๋‚ด ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค 8% ์ •๋„ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.

๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ์˜ˆ์ „์— ์‹œ๋‚ด ๋ฉด์„ธ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ณณ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์€ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ์—ฌํ–‰์ด ์ ์—ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์—ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ๋“ค์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ค์ด๊ณต(daigou) ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋กœ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ๋“ค์ด์ฃ . ํ•œ๊ตญ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์„œ์šธ์˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹œ๋‚ด ๋ฉด์„ธ์ ๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณณ์ด ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ…๋А๊ฐ€ ๋ด‰๋งˆ๋ฅด์…ฐ์˜ ์ฃผ๋„ ํ•˜์— ์ด๊ด€๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ด€๊ด‘ ๋ชฉ์ ์ง€๋กœ์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋‹จ์ฒด๋กœ ๋งŽ์ด ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ด€๋ จ์„ฑ์ด ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜์ด๋‚œ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํŠธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์•˜์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ํŒ๋งค ์‹ค์  ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 25% ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์„ ์›๋ž˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ์žฌ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์—ฌํ–‰๊ฐ๋“ค, ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค, ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๊ธฐํšŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋…ธ์ถœ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋กœ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ถ์•„์‹œ์•„ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The next question is from Ashley Wallace, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฑ…ํฌ ์˜ค๋ธŒ ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ๋ฉ”๋ฆด๋ฆฐ์น˜์˜ ์• ์А๋ฆฌ ์›”๋ฆฌ์Šค๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Ashley Wallace: And firstly, well done on the Q2 revenue acceleration, strong margin progression in the half. Can I just start with a follow-up question on derma, please? Sell-out trends were obviously much better than sell-in for half 1. But I was wondering when you expect sell-in and sell-out to align. And will this already be true for Q3 in your view? My second question is just on the contribution from new channels. You mentioned a few times in the presentation TikTok Shop. But obviously, we also have Amazon Premium Beauty. I was wondering if there will be any more brand launches on these platforms in the second half. So just, I guess, helping us to understand how much more white space opportunity or distribution push that exists on some of these newer channels for you. And then finally, just on EBIT margin. I know Christophe mentioned not to extrapolate half 1 performance. But any reason why the full year EBIT margin can't be up 30 basis points even with the impact of tariffs building in the second half?**Ashley Wallace:** ๋จผ์ € 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”์™€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”๋งˆ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์…€์•„์›ƒ(sell-out) ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์…€์ธ(sell-in)๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์–ธ์ œ์ฏค ์…€์ธ๊ณผ ์…€์•„์›ƒ์ด ์ผ์น˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ฑ„๋„์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์—์„œ ํ‹ฑํ†ก์ƒต(TikTok Shop)์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์•„๋งˆ์กด ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ(Amazon Premium Beauty)๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์—์„œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ๋Ÿฐ์นญ์ด ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ฑ„๋„๋“ค์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ™”์ดํŠธ์ŠคํŽ˜์ด์Šค ๊ธฐํšŒ๋‚˜ ์œ ํ†ต ํ™•์žฅ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์—ฐ์žฅํ•ด์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ๋ณธ๊ฒฉํ™”๋˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ EBIT ๋งˆ์ง„์ด 30bp ์ƒ์Šนํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: You mentioned the reason.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Tariffs and support of our launches. In the end, we have to -- as Christophe -- I'm stealing his answer, but he's always reminding us that our focus is top line, brand fuels, stimulation of demand. So we know that we could deliver a higher margin, but we don't want to do it at the expense of the top line goals. And on top of that, this year, we have to offset these tariffs that we cannot fully mitigate. We mentioned around 30, I think 40 basis point impact. So -- and it's all on the second half so -- well, mostly on the second half. So Christophe, I'm sure you want to add something, too.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๊ด€์„ธ์™€ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ์ง€์› ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” - ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ - ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ดˆ์ ์€ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”, ์ˆ˜์š” ์ž๊ทน์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋ช…์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋งˆ์ง„์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งค์ถœ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ํฌ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์™„ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ 30๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šค ํฌ์ธํŠธ, ์•„๋‹ˆ 40๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šค ํฌ์ธํŠธ ์ •๋„์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—, ์Œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ง‘์ค‘๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„, ๋ถ„๋ช… ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.
Christophe Babule: Don't worry, Ashley. We are predictably as usual targeting both supporting the growth at first. And when there is growth, of course, there is also an improvement in our profitability.**Christophe Babule:** ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”, ์• ์А๋ฆฌ. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ‰์†Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋จผ์ € ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ฑ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: So on derma, I expect, at least from my teams, they should realign sell-out and sell-in on the second half. So that's their objective. It will, of course, depend on again success of launches, competition. But that's -- there was really a very specific effect and impact on the first half of this year. The only negative thing that they will have against them is that the pipe, their haircare launch in the U.S. second half of last year, I don't remember exactly, weighted. So -- but overall, they should realign. That's the objective they have. And your second question was?**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋”๋งˆ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ €ํฌ ํŒ€๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ํŒ๋งค๋Ÿ‰(sell-out)๊ณผ ์ถœํ•˜๋Ÿ‰(sell-in)์„ ์žฌ์กฐ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต ์—ฌ๋ถ€์™€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋งค์šฐ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ๊ณผ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์šฉํ•  ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ถ€์ •์  ์š”์†Œ๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ๊ฐ€ - ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ - ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์žฌ์กฐ์ •์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ ธ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ญ์˜€์ฃ ?
Nicolas Hieronimus: TikTok Shop and Amazon. I will speak on Amazon. Amazon, first of all, we are very, very happy with the quality of the relationship, the way the brands are expressed, the way we recruit consumers with this partner. Short term or midterm, it's not so much about adding brands with a couple of small things that can happen. I think Margiela is going to join at some point. But it's more a geographic expansion because, of course, where we have truly maximized Amazon today in the U.S. even though our market share online in the U.S. remains below our market share off-line. So it seems that we have lots of growth opportunities. But it's more the expansion in Europe, where we just put some of our -- typically, for example, LDB brands in Amazon in Europe, and they are really flying. Consumers really want that brand online. And of course, there are countries around the world, whether it's Japan, Australia, India, the GCC, where we can start growing our business. And we have, by the way, other partners: Mercado Libre in Latin America; we have, of course, Rakuten in Japan. So it's not just an Amazon play. And as far as TikTok Shop, I would say on TikTok Shop, we look at it -- we're going -- we come first with mass and a few of our new products. It's -- we are seeing this channel both as a product discovery channel as much or probably more than an e-commerce channel so far. So it remains smaller, but it's really -- we really bet on TikTok today, not the shop, a little bit the shop, but more the TikTok social media as a way to engage consumers with influencers, promote our brands, make them discover it than a big retail channel today.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** TikTok Shop๊ณผ Amazon์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Amazon๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์šฐ์„  ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ํ‘œํ˜„๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋ฅผ ์œ ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๋‚˜ ์ค‘๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” - ๋ฌผ๋ก  Margiela๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ž‘์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ - ์ง€๋ฆฌ์  ํ™•์žฅ์— ๋” ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” Amazon์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ •๋ง ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์ธ ์‹œ์žฅ์ ์œ ์œจ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ํ™•์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ๊ทผ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ Amazon์— LDB ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ก ์นญํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐ€๋“ฏ ์ž˜ ํŒ”๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ผ๋ณธ, ํ˜ธ์ฃผ, ์ธ๋„, GCC ๋“ฑ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์„ฑ์žฅ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ผํ‹ด ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ๋ฉ”๋ฅด์นด๋„ ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ(Mercado Libre)๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ผ๋ณธ์—๋Š” ๋ผ์ฟ ํ…(Rakuten)์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์•„๋งˆ์กด๋งŒ์˜ ์ „๋žต์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ‹ฑํ†ก ์ƒต(TikTok Shop)์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋จผ์ € ๋Œ€์ค‘์ ์ธ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด ์ฑ„๋„์„ ์ „์ž์ƒ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์ฑ„๋„๋งŒํผ์ด๋‚˜, ์•„๋‹ˆ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ ์ฑ„๋„๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ž‘์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ‹ฑํ†ก์— ๋ฒ ํŒ…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‹ฑํ†ก ์‡ผํ•‘๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”, ์‡ผํ•‘๋„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ‹ฑํ†ก ์†Œ์…œ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ธํ”Œ๋ฃจ์–ธ์„œ๋“ค๊ณผ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋“ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ํ™๋ณดํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋” ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ์ฑ„๋„์ด๋ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์—ญํ• ์ด ๋” ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Next question is from Tom Sykes, Deutsche Bank.**Operator:** ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋„์ด์ฒด๋ฐฉํฌ์˜ ํ†ฐ ์‚ฌ์ต์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Thomas Richard Sykes: Yes. Just following up actually on Amazon. So in the U.S., do you directly fulfill your sales on Amazon? Or do you sell in ahead of, say, Prime Day? And does that sell-in particularly for that festival would fall in Q2 or Q3, please? And anything just on sort of inventory levels at Amazon perhaps compared to other retailers. And then I just had a sort of follow-up on your comments on A&P. Just where you're actually acquiring a customer, is the cost of that acquisition at all going up a little? Like do customers or individuals need like a bit more prompting and a bit more A&P to get them to transact? And are you -- is it then that you're offsetting that with cutting underperforming A&P? Or is that not quite the dynamic that's happening at the moment, please?**Thomas Richard Sykes:** ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ์กด ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์•„๋งˆ์กด ํŒ๋งค๋ฅผ ์ง์ ‘ ํ’€ํ•„๋จผํŠธํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ”„๋ผ์ž„ ๋ฐ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ํ–‰์‚ฌ ์ „์— ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์…€์ธ(sell-in)์ด 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ์กด์˜ ์žฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ์ง€๋„ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P) ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๊ทธ ํ™•๋ณด ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ƒ์Šนํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž๊ทน์ด๋‚˜ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์ €์กฐํ•œ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„๋ฅผ ์ค„์—ฌ์„œ ์ƒ์‡„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฑด์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์—ญํ•™๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฑด์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So I'll answer the two questions. On Amazon, we have two different models. If I take the two extremes, typically, CPD business will be a first party business. So we invoice Amazon and they sell the product. Our mature business, our most premium business for both quality and overall control reasons, our model which is a 3P model fulfilled by Amazon, we call that 3P FBA. So it's two different things. And so clearly, on the 3P FBA, there is, by definition, no inventory. And on the mass business, which is the first party data, to my knowledge, there is no inventory issue. So if I look at the Prime Day, here, I'm guessing -- I'm sure that for luxury, typically it's just -- it's a Q3 business. For mass, there's probably some -- part of the invoicing has probably been done in Q2 as it was early days of...**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ์กด์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–‘ ๊ทน๋‹จ์„ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ CPD ์‚ฌ์—…์€ 1P(first party) ์‚ฌ์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋งˆ์กด์— ์†ก์žฅ์„ ๋ฐœํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ์กด์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์„ฑ์ˆ™ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—…, ํ’ˆ์งˆ๊ณผ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํ†ต์ œ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„์ธ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ 3P ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋งˆ์กด์ด ํ’€ํ•„๋จผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” 3P FBA๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋‘˜์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐœ๋…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 3P FBA์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ •์˜์ƒ ์žฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  1P ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์ธ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ์žฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ผ์ž„ ๋ฐ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ œ ์ถ”์ธก์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ฒญ๊ตฌ์„œ ๋ฐœํ–‰์ด 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—...
Christophe Babule: Well, if I can add, it was a 3 days operation this year. We've been massively improving our sales in -- so I guess that there is no stock anymore in their warehouse. It's been a great, great Prime Day for the L'Orรฉal brands this year.**Christophe Babule:** ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด, ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” 3์ผ๊ฐ„ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์„ ๋Œ€ํญ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•ด์™”๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ฐฝ๊ณ ์—๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์žฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ํ”„๋ผ์ž„ ๋ฐ์ด๋Š” ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘” ํ–‰์‚ฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: Sure. And in A&P, the cost acquisition is not specifically going up. First of all, we have two different models. Again, we're talking about luxury, where when we acquire a customer that might be a bit more expensive, then the objective is to loyalize that consumer and to increase as much as possible their lifetime value. Whereas on most of our products as beauty is not -- especially on mass, on makeup, it's not mostly a loyalty business, we have to invest constantly in recruiting new consumers. So the costs have not overall gone up because there is a multiplication of available channels and there is both a better way to target and a better way to optimize with BETiq and what we learn from it. What is true is that we constantly reassess and when we see something that's underperforming, a channel that's underperforming, we have to cut it. But just to make it a little bit more complex, if you look at pure ROI, transactional -- what we call transactional media, i.e., a banner with a discount on an online page, it's always going to have more short-term ROI than a very image-driven advertising. But as our -- the jewel of our crowns are our brands and their desirability, we make sure in the guidelines we give to our countries to have always a balance between transactional, short-term ROI media and long-term awareness media. And one of the specificities of BETiq, which is something I really wanted and as the team -- which is kind of unique versus all the AI optimization tools that are in the market, is that we have included a long-term benefit, long-term ROI criteria which, by the way, we optimize year-after-year because as you can understand to truly measure a long-term effect, you need more years than to measure a short-term ROI. So it's a bit more complex than that. But we of course are trying to systematically optimize; and the cost of acquisition, to my knowledge, is not going particularly higher.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** A&P์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํš๋“ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํš๋“ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋†’์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์„ฑ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ƒ์•  ๊ฐ€์น˜(lifetime value)๋ฅผ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ๋ทฐํ‹ฐ๋Š” - ํŠนํžˆ ๋Œ€์ค‘ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—… ์ œํ’ˆ์€ - ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ถฉ์„ฑ๋„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹ ๊ทœ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ์œ ์น˜์— ํˆฌ์žํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ด์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ฑ„๋„์ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•ด์กŒ๊ณ , BETiq์™€ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์–ป์€ ์ธ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋กœ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ํƒ€๊ฒŸํŒ…๊ณผ ์ตœ์ ํ™” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์žฌํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ•œ ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ณผ๊ฐํžˆ ์ค‘๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ROI๋งŒ ๋ณด๋ฉด ํŠธ๋žœ์žญ์…˜ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด, ์ฆ‰ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์˜ ํ• ์ธ ๋ฐฐ๋„ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€ ์ค‘์‹ฌ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ROI๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ž์‚ฐ์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ๊ทธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๋งค๋ ฅ๋„์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๊ฐ๊ตญ์— ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ํŠธ๋žœ์žญ์…˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์˜ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ROI ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์™€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ธ์ง€๋„ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BETiq์˜ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์›ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ํŒ€์ด ๊ตฌํ˜„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  AI ์ตœ์ ํ™” ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์  ํ˜œํƒ, ์ฆ‰ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ROI ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ํฌํ•จํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋งค๋…„ ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ธก์ •ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ROI๋ฅผ ์ธก์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฐ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํš๋“ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๋†’์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We still have two last questions. The next one is from Jeff Stent, BNP.**Operator:** ์•„์ง ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ BNP์˜ Jeff Stent๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jeffrey Patrick Stent: Just a quick housekeeping question. I think the impact of IT phasing was a little bit bigger than we would have anticipated in Q2. Will that come back in Q3? And secondly, earlier in the year, you talked about further IT implementations in the second half. Could you maybe give us some color on that? And any phasing impact we may see from that?**Jeffrey Patrick Stent:** ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์ •๋ฆฌ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— IT ๋‹จ๊ณ„์  ๋„์ž…์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ปธ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํšŒ๋ณต๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์—ฐ์ดˆ์— ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ IT ๊ตฌ์ถ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹จ๊ณ„์  ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ์–ด๋–จ์ง€์š”?
Christophe Babule: Jeff, first, yes, it will disappear in Q3. And as a reminder, last year, we had, as I said in my comments, the impact on the luxury in North America. So when you add up these 2 elements, as I said before, there will be a positive impact of around 70 basis points in Q3.**Christophe Babule:** ๋„ค, Jeff, ๋จผ์ € 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ž‘๋…„์— ๋ถ๋ฏธ ๋Ÿญ์…”๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์น˜๋ฉด, ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋กœ 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ 70๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šค ํฌ์ธํŠธ์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: We will need to add 70 basis points to our growth. So the growth is the net between the 40 that we have to finish offsetting in the first part of the year and last year's 100 basis points on that. And then that's it for this year. And then when we talk about next year, we tried to explain because -- we are 1/3 of our -- ahead of our IT transformation. And of course, we mentioned only the big ones in the comments we make because we were not going to include -- when we do Spain or when we do, I don't know, Thailand, we will not comment on that. So it's only the big -- U.S. that are really material that we have to communicate. Is that clear, Jeff?**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์— 70๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์€ ์—ฐ์ดˆ์— ์ƒ์‡„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” 40๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ์™€ ์ž‘๋…„์˜ 100๋ฒ ์ด์‹œ์Šคํฌ์ธํŠธ ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ˆœ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‚ด๋…„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ IT ์ „ํ™˜์˜ 3๋ถ„์˜ 1์„ ์•ž์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์„ค๋ช…์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ฃผ์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ค˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ํƒœ๊ตญ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋Š” ํฌํ•จํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ณ„๋„๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์†Œํ†ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฐ™์€ ํฐ ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”, ์ œํ”„?
Jeffrey Patrick Stent: Did you -- had you previously mentioned the U.K. and Australia would take place in the second half?**Jeffrey Patrick Stent:** ์˜๊ตญ๊ณผ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ ์ง„์ถœ์ด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ด์ „์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Christophe Babule: Yes. This will be -- the go-live of those two important countries will be next year. So go-live is, for the time being, scheduled on March of 2026. So of course, we'll keep you posted of how the developments are going on our IT transformation.**Christophe Babule:** ๋„ค, ๊ทธ ๋‘ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์˜ ๊ฐ€๋™ ์‹œ์ž‘์€ ๋‚ด๋…„์— ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” 2026๋…„ 3์›”์— ๊ฐ€๋™์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ„ํš๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  IT ์ „ํ™˜ ์ž‘์—…์˜ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: By the way, the good news is that we did China and, frankly, that's a big country for us. And it happened without a glitch, which when you change your IT systems, there's always a scare. It was very well prepared by our teams there and things went very smoothly.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ๋„ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ์ค‘๊ตญ์€ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—†์ด ์™„๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. IT ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋งˆ๋ จ์ธ๋ฐ, ํ˜„์ง€ ํŒ€๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ฒ ์ €ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: The last question is from David Hayes, Jefferies.**Operator:** ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ œํ”„๋ฆฌ์Šค์˜ ๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ ํ—ค์ด์ฆˆ๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
David Hayes: Two from me as well, if I can. Just going back to AI and the A&P marketing efficiencies. Do you have a sense of how far ahead of competition you are in terms of using AI? And then I guess if you are ahead, should we assume that this A&P trim that we saw in the first half is something that we could expect to see sort of going on moving forward rather than the very consistent increases that we've seen over the years on A&P as a percentage of sales? Are those effectively over now? And then the second one was on devices. We've not mentioned the devices that I think were launched about a year ago. I've noticed them appearing in shops as I travel around. So just on the AirLight hair dryer and the water-saving showerheads, can you give us a sense of the scale and the success of that rollout and where we are with the rollout in terms of markets and ongoing?**David Hayes:** ์ €๋„ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI์™€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P) ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, AI ํ™œ์šฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์•ž์„œ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์•ž์„œ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋ณธ A&P ์ ˆ๊ฐ์ด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋งค์ถœ ๋Œ€๋น„ A&P ๋น„์ค‘์ด ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•ด์™”๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋๋‚œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?

๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ 1๋…„ ์ „์— ์ถœ์‹œ๋œ ๋””๋ฐ”์ด์Šค๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋งค์žฅ๋“ค์—์„œ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. AirLight ํ—ค์–ด๋“œ๋ผ์ด์–ด์™€ ์ ˆ์ˆ˜ํ˜• ์ƒค์›Œํ—ค๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ถœ์‹œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์™€ ์„ฑ๊ณต ์ •๋„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ง„์ถœ ํ˜„ํ™ฉ๊ณผ ํ–ฅํ›„ ๊ณ„ํš์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ์„ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
Nicolas Hieronimus: Okay. So on AI, I will be -- I'm always very careful, first of all, because AI is a technology, is an enabler that goes across the whole organization. So it's very hard to assess who's doing what. I know what we are doing. I know we are -- I think we are advanced. Where we are the most advanced in AI is within R&D or R&I, as we call it, because I think both with the partnerships we've delivered, we've done and the way we are formulating, reformulating, scanning molecules, doing predictive formulation, I think here, we have a true AI moat, if I can use that term. On the BETiq, so on A&P [ modelization ], there are other tools out there. And I would say that, for me, the main difference between what we do have and what I read and hear about others, and again, I don't know everything, but it's the fact that it's precisely that we've made sure that this tool was not going to bias with exclusively a short-term vision. So we clearly want to make sure that, of course, we get the bang for our bucks in terms of net sell-out, in terms of sell-out right after we invest in media. But I want to be sure that I keep on fueling the magic of Saint Laurent or Grupo L'Orรฉal Paris. So as far as the weight of A&P on the P&L, as we said earlier, it has no reason to go up than the rest. It will depend on the activity of the launches and all the needs we have to boost our top line. So we'll keep on monitoring this with the agility we need. And as far as the tech devices we launched, it's very early days. AirLight Pro is mostly today, and that's a chosen strategy, is mostly a B2B activity. Yes, you will have seen it in some stores potentially outside in the U.S. But really, it's -- we really want to leverage, as we've always done, by the way, and it's proving pretty effective in premium haircare right now, to make sure that we get the support and the adoption by stylists. So right now, it's mainly a stylist play. So it remains in terms of contribution to growth, quite limited at this time because we want to create the goodwill and then roll it out in business to consumer. So right now, it's in France. It's in Germany. It's in the U.S., Spain, Portugal, Benelux. So it's a few countries. And very few have direct-to-consumer sales. As far as the shower head thing, it's not -- as I said, it's not a business. It's the way to reduce significantly our carbon footprint. So we are equipping salons. I don't have the numbers on top of my mind and in my data, but we are equipping salons in the U.S. and in Europe. And we -- now that we've acquired this start-up, our biggest play is to improve and enhance this shower head to make sure it can reach homes because that's where we will have the biggest sustainability impact, which is really the goal. So AirLight Pro is a business that's being built. The Gjosa showerhead is a contribution to our CO2 and sustainability objectives. All right. So we are -- I think it was the last question. So for all those who are, like some of us, about to go on holiday, we wish you a great summer and hopefully a sunny summer using La Roche-Posay, which is the best sunscreen on the market.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** AI์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค AI๋Š” ์กฐ์ง ์ „์ฒด์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ํ™œ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด์ž ์ด‰์ง„์ œ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์•ž์„œ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

AI์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์•ž์„œ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ„์•ผ๋Š” R&D, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” R&I ์˜์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ๊ณผ ๋ถ„์ž๋ฅผ ๊ณต์‹ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฌ๊ณต์‹ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์Šค์บ๋‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ธก ์ œํ˜• ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง„์ •ํ•œ AI ํ•ด์ž(moat)๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

BETiq์˜ A&P ๋ชจ๋ธ๋ง ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฝ๊ณ  ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด์šฉ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค ์•Œ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋„๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์  ์‹œ๊ฐ์—๋งŒ ์น˜์šฐ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์— ํˆฌ์žํ•œ ํ›„ ์ˆœ ํŒ๋งค๋Ÿ‰๊ณผ ํŒ๋งค๋Ÿ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํˆฌ์ž ๋Œ€๋น„ ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒ๋กœ๋ž‘์ด๋‚˜ ๋กœ๋ ˆ์•Œ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ณ„์† ํ‚ค์›Œ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์†์ต๊ณ„์‚ฐ์„œ์—์„œ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์„ ์ „๋น„(A&P)์˜ ๋น„์ค‘๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ํ™œ๋™๊ณผ ๋งค์ถœ ์ฆ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ฏผ์ฒฉ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋งํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์‹œํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์•„์ง ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AirLight Pro๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” ์˜๋„๋œ ์ „๋žต์ธ๋ฐ, ์ฃผ๋กœ B2B ํ™œ๋™์— ์ง‘์ค‘๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋งค์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณด์…จ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ฐฉ์‹์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ž„์ด ์ž…์ฆ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง€์ง€์™€ ์ฑ„ํƒ์„ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์˜ ์ „๋žต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋จผ์ € ํ˜ธ๊ฐ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ B2C๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค, ๋…์ผ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ, ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ, ๋ฒ ๋„ค๋ฃฉ์Šค ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง์ ‘ ์†Œ๋น„์ž ํŒ๋งค๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒค์›Œํ—ค๋“œ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํƒ„์†Œ ๋ฐœ์ž๊ตญ์„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ด๋กฑ๋“ค์„ ์žฅ๋น„๋กœ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์˜ ์‚ด๋กฑ๋“ค์— ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์Šคํƒ€ํŠธ์—…์„ ์ธ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ง€๊ธˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์ด ์ƒค์›Œํ—ค๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œ์ผœ์„œ ๊ฐ€์ •์—๊นŒ์ง€ ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ AirLight Pro๋Š” ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Gjosa ์ƒค์›Œํ—ค๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ CO2 ๋ฐ ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์•ž๋‘๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ํœด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ์‹œ์žฅ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ํฌ๋ฆผ์ธ ๋ผ๋กœ์Šˆํฌ์ œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–‡์‚ด ๊ฐ€๋“ํ•œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋˜์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Nicolas Hieronimus: UVAIR, which is never leaving my pocket. Have a great one, everybody, and thank you for your questions and your attention.**Nicolas Hieronimus:** UVAIR๋Š” ์ œ ์ฃผ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์—์„œ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋– ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ข‹์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋˜์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ๊ด€์‹ฌ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Babule: Thank you very much.**Christophe Babule:** ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.**Operator:** ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์„ ๋Š์œผ์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call in Korean:

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ํ•˜์ด๋ผ์ดํŠธ:
- 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ž„
- ์˜์—…์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋‚˜, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์••๋ฐ•์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋จ

โ€ข ์ง€์—ญ๋ณ„ ๋™ํ–ฅ:
- ๋ถ๋ฏธ: ํ—ค์–ด์ผ€์–ด์™€ ํ”„๋ž˜๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ฃผ๋„
- ์ค‘๊ตญ: 6.18 ์‡ผํ•‘ ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ์—์„œ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ(์‹œ์žฅ +7% vs L'Orรฉal +10%)
- ์œ ๋Ÿฝ: 2๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‘”ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋‚˜, ๋…์ผ, ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ ๋“ฑ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ์ „๋žต ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ:
- Beauty Stimulus Plan์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ์˜ˆ์ •
- AI ๊ธฐ์ˆ (BETiq)์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•œ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ํšจ์œจํ™” ์ง€์†
- ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์—„ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ(Helena Rubinstein ๋“ฑ)์˜ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ

โ€ข ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ์š”์ธ:
- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ด€์„ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ (์•ฝ 40bp ์ •๋„์˜ ๋งˆ์ง„ ์˜ํ–ฅ ์˜ˆ์ƒ)
- ํŠธ๋ž˜๋ธ” ๋ฆฌํ…Œ์ผ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์•ฝ์„ธ ์ง€์†
- ์Šคํ‚จ์ผ€์–ด ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ์‹ฌํ™”

์ด ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์ „๋ฌธ ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ๊ด€์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ฐ„๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ฆฌ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.