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| Question-and-Answer Session Operator [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Steven Fleishman Wolfe Research, LLC Congrats on the Duane Arnold news. Maybe just on that topic, John, can you give us any sense on what the cost of restart might be and also the buy-in price of the 30% that you're buying in of Duane Arnold? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate the question. So first of all, just the sensitivities, we're not going to go into the CapEx number on this call. But needless to say, we feel very good about our ability to build this -- to recommission Duane very efficiently. | ์ง์์๋ต ์ธ์
์ด์์ [์ด์์ ์ง์นจ] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wolfe Research์ Steve Fleishman๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. Steven Fleishman Wolfe Research, LLC Duane Arnold ์์ ์ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ John, ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ ๋น์ฉ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Duane Arnold ์ง๋ถ 30%๋ฅผ ์ธ์ํ๋ ๋งค์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Steve. ์ง๋ฌธ ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ , ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ ์ฌ์์ด๋ผ ์ด๋ฒ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์๋ ์๋ณธ์ ์ง์ถ(CapEx) ๊ธ์ก์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๊ฒ์, Duane์ ํจ์จ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ํ ์ ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| The plant is in great shape. As I said before, the team that will be doing the recommissioning is the same team that did the decommissioning. I've been out there recently, tour the facility. It's in good shape. So we'll provide more details on that as we move forward. On your second question on the 30% buyout of CIPCO and Corn Belt, it's really pretty straightforward. I mean that buyout was done in exchange for us assuming their decommissioning liability. It's pretty much that straightforward. And from our standpoint, we have more than ample decommissioning funds that had already been set aside. So I think it's attractive for us. I think it's attractive for CIPCO and Corn Belt as well. | ๋ฐ์ ์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ข์ ์ํ์
๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฌ๊ฐ๋์ ๋ด๋นํ ํ์ ํ์ ์์
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๋๋ค. ์ต๊ทผ์ ํ์ฅ์ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ์ฌ ์์ค์ ๋๋ฌ๋ดค๋๋ฐ, ์ํ๊ฐ ์ํธํฉ๋๋ค. ์งํํ๋ฉด์ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. CIPCO์ Corn Belt์ 30% ์ง๋ถ ์ธ์์ ๋ํ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋จํฉ๋๋ค. ํด๋น ์ธ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ํ์ ์ฑ ์(decommissioning liability)์ ์ธ์ํ๋ ๋๊ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ก์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋จํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ ์ฅ์์๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ํ์ ๋น์ฉ(decommissioning funds)์ด ์ ๋ฆฝ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, CIPCO์ Corn Belt์๊ฒ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ก ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. |
| Win-win for all parties involved. Steven Fleishman Wolfe Research, LLC Okay. And then one other question, different topic. Just -- it was great to see another 3 gigawatt quarter add, but there was 1 gigawatt removed from the backlog. Could you maybe just talk about that 1 gigawatt removal and what's driving that? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes, absolutely, Steve. This is pretty straightforward. So as you said, we added 3 gigawatts. I mean, another really strong quarter of origination, and we are just seeing a lot of demand for renewables and storage in the market. And remember, so out of that 3 gigawatts, we put 1.7 gigawatts into service in the quarter. | ๋ชจ๋ ๋น์ฌ์์๊ฒ ์์์
๋๋ค. Steven Fleishman Wolfe Research, LLC ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ ๋ก ์ง๋ฌธ ํ๋ ๋ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 3๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ๋ง ์ข์๋๋ฐ, ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์์ 1๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ๊ฐ ์ ๊ฑฐ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ 1๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ์ ๊ฑฐ์ ๊ทธ ์์ธ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค, Steve. ์ด๊ฑด ๊ฝค ๋ช ํํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 3๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ์ถ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ฃผ ์ค์ ์ ๋ณด์ธ ๋ ํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๊ณ , ์์ฅ์์ ์ฌ์์๋์ง์ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น์ ๋ํ ์์๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์ด ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์ตํ์ค ์ ์, ๊ทธ 3๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ์ค์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 1.7๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And really, I think what you're referencing is the 900 megawatts. Let me just break that down. So we removed 650 megawatts from backlog, which was pretty conservative by us. I think you know we're pretty conservative on how we manage the backlog. We did that for various development reasons. And this is really on some smaller projects that we are really -- that we're continuing to manage, as we move forward. I think we're going to get it all back in '26 and '27 on that 650 megawatts. So it will just come a little bit later. And then there was another 250 megawatts that we just had a little bit of a permitting delay on. So we're just shifting that from '25 to '26. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ด 900๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์์ 650๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ์ ์ธํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฝค ๋ณด์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์์๋ค์ํผ ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ๊ด๋ฆฌ์ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ณด์์ ์ธ ํธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ค์ํ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ก ์ธํ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ด๋ฆฌํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ผ๋ถ ์๊ท๋ชจ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด 650๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ 2026๋ ๊ณผ 2027๋ ์ ๋ชจ๋ ํ๋ณตํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋จ์ง ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฆ์ด์ง ๋ฟ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋๋จธ์ง 250๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ ํ๊ฐ ์น์ธ์ด ์ฝ๊ฐ ์ง์ฐ๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ฅผ 2025๋ ์์ 2026๋ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋์ํจ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And when you put that 900 megawatts together, it's what, call it, 130th of the backlog, but feel good about getting all of that back. It just comes a little bit later in time. Otherwise, had you included that, we would have been at the bottom end of the '24, '25 range. And I think as investors saw, we've reaffirmed our expectations through '27, including the fact we'd be disappointed not to be at the high end of the range. And so these moves really just don't have any impact on our ability to meet our financial expectations that we've communicated to investors. And as you look out, a lot of positives to see in the backlog. I mean '28 and beyond are shaping up unbelievably well. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ 900๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ํฉ์น๋ฉด, ์ ์ฒด ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์ ์ฝ 130๋ถ์ 1 ์ ๋์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ๋ณตํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋จ์ง ์๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฆ์ด์ง ๋ฟ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์์๋ค๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ '24๋ , '25๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ๋ฒ์์ ํ๋จ์ ์์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฌ์์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ป์ ๋ณด์ จ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ '27๋ ๊น์ง์ ์ ๋ง์ ์ฌํ์ธํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ๋ฒ์์ ์๋จ์ ๋๋ฌํ์ง ๋ชปํ๋ค๋ฉด ์ค๋ง์ค๋ฌ์ธ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ๋ ํฌํจํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์กฐ์น๋ค์ ํฌ์์๋ค์๊ฒ ์ ๋ฌํ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ ๋ง์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ ํ ์ํฅ๋ ๋ฏธ์น์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์์ ๋ง์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์์๋ค์ ๋ณผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. '28๋ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ๋ ๋ฏฟ์ ์ ์์ ์ ๋๋ก ์ ํ์ฑ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We just got a great head start on those years. So overall, we're in really, really good shape where we sit now. And I have no concerns about where the backlog sits, and it's as strong as it's ever been. Operator The next question comes from the line of Shar Pourreza with Wells Fargo. Shahriar Pourreza Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division John, I just -- I know you kind of mentioned to Steve, you didn't want to get into the actual CapEx numbers at Duane Arnold, but let me try to maybe ask it a little bit differently and just get into the qualitative part of the plant. I know there's obviously a bogey of $1.6 billion for a Pennsylvania plant that's kind of under budget now. | ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wells Fargo์ Shar Pourreza๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. Shahriar Pourreza Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ John, ์ ๋ -- Steve์๊ฒ ๋ง์ํ์ค ๋ Duane Arnold์ ์ค์ ์๋ณธ์ง์ถ ์์น์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ธ๊ธํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค๋ง, ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ ค๋ณด๊ณ ๋ฐ์ ์์ ์ ์ฑ์ ์ธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ฐ ์ดํ๋ก ์งํ ์ค์ธ ํ์ค๋ฒ ์ด๋์ ๋ฐ์ ์์ 16์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ผ๋ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ด ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| You kind of mentioned that this current plant is in good shape. Can you just maybe directionally talk about what you're seeing with that plant and how we should view it without going into the numbers? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. Thanks, Shar. Welcome back, by the way. Good -- great to have you back. Shahriar Pourreza Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Thanks for having me back. John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. Yes, it's great to hear from you. So sure. I mean I'll just kind of -- without going into the numbers, again, we've spent a lot of time going through Duane Arnold, a lot of diligence. | ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, ์ค๋ฅด. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ต๊ฒ ๋์ด ์ ๋ง ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ฆฌ์๋ฅด ํฌ์ฐ๋ ์ ์ฐ์คํ๊ณ ์ฆ๊ถ, LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ถ๋ฌ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๋ฐ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์น๋ ์ธ๊ธํ์ง ์๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋์ ์๋๋ ๋ฐ์ ์์ ๋ํด ์๋นํ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ค์ฌ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ๋ง์ ์ค์ฌ๋ฅผ ์งํํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| And one -- I'm going to go back to what I said before, having the same team that did the decommissioning, leading the recommissioning is an enormous advantage because folks know exactly what was done. And so the plan that we have, we have a lot of certainty around, right? And so I think the scope is pretty well-defined, and we know what needs to be done. The facility is, like I said, in really good shape. I mean when I went through it, it was like we just kind of put a lock on the door and got the keys out and opened the lock back up, and then we're going back through it. And there's obviously some things -- some work that has to be done to bring the plant back online. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ ๊ฐ์ง -- ์ ๊ฐ ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ์๋ฉด, ํ์ ์์ ์ ์ํํ๋ ๋์ผํ ํ์ด ์ฌ๊ฐ๋์ ์ฃผ๋ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ฒญ๋ ์ฅ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๋ด๋น์๋ค์ด ์ ํํ ๋ฌด์์ด ์ํ๋์๋์ง ์๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ ๊ณํ์ ๋ํด ์๋นํ ํ์ค์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ ๋ฒ์๊ฐ ๊ฝค ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ ์๋์ด ์๊ณ , ๋ฌด์์ ํด์ผ ํ๋์ง ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์์ค์ ์ ๋ง ์ํธํ ์ํ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๋๋ฌ๋ดค์ ๋, ๋ง์น ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ฌธ์ ์๋ฌผ์ ๋ฅผ ์ฑ์ฐ๊ณ ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ๋นผ์ ๋ณด๊ดํ๋ค๊ฐ ๋ค์ ์๋ฌผ์ ๋ฅผ ์ด๊ณ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง -- ๋ฐ์ ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ ๊ฐ๋ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ํํด์ผ ํ ์ผ๋ถ ์์ ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| But the plant is in good shape, and we feel very good about our ability to execute against what's in front of us. Shahriar Pourreza Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Fantastic. And then, John, just one last one is just, I guess, given the lack of additional nuclear sites to kind of repower for you guys, do you see kind of the next wave of deals moving to CCGTs for energy resources? Are you seeing demand there, especially given the partnership you have with GE? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. Thanks, Shar. So we have many ways to grow, which we talked about a month ago. And I'll talk more about those in a minute. | ํ์ง๋ง ๋ฐ์ ์๋ ์ํธํ ์ํ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ ๋์ธ ๊ณผ์ ๋ค์ ์คํํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ์์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Shahriar Pourreza Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํ๋ฅญํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ John, ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ์ฌ์ญ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ท์ฌ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ํ ์ ์๋ ์ถ๊ฐ ์์๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ์ ๋ถ์ง๊ฐ ๋ถ์กฑํ ์ํฉ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ๋ค์ ๋จ๊ณ์ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ค์ด ์๋์ง ์์์ ์ํ ๋ณตํฉํ๋ ฅ๋ฐ์ (CCGT)์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง์? ํนํ GE์์ ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ๊ทธ์ชฝ์์ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Shar. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ ๋ฌ ์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ ์๋ ๋ง์ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ์ ํ์ ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ํด ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| But one of those ways to grow is through new gas-fired technology. Nobody has built more gas-fired generation in this country in the last 20 years than NextEra has. And so we've got a lot of experience at it. And we're really a natural to get back into that area. Because of our development platform, it's so easy for us to take what we already have in terms of land agents, permitting, all the supply chain capability that we have. You mentioned the partnership that we have with GE Vernova and the strong relationship that we have there, the customer relationships, all the things that go with that development platform, it's easy for us to pivot into gas. | ํ์ง๋ง ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ ์ค ํ๋๋ ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํตํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 20๋ ๊ฐ ์ด ๋๋ผ์์ NextEra๋งํผ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ์๋ฅผ ๊ฑด์คํ ํ์ฌ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์์ ํ๋ถํ ๊ฒฝํ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ์์ญ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ ์ง์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ ๋๋ถ์, ํ ์ง ์์ด์ ํธ, ์ธํ๊ฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ์ญ๋ ๋ฑ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ํ์ฉํ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฝ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ํ์ GE Vernova์์ ํํธ๋์ญ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ณณ๊ณผ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ด๊ณ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด๊ณ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ ํจ๊ปํ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์์๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ค ๋ถ์ผ๋ก ์ ํํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ฉ์ดํฉ๋๋ค. |
| And I've said before, we have roughly a 20-gigawatt pipeline already developed because of that development platform and the efficiency that's built into it. And we're excited about what we're seeing on the combined cycle side and some of the opportunities that we have. And we'll talk more about this in December, but a unique advantage that we have is -- because it takes a little longer time to build gas-fired generation, call it, 4, 5, 6 years, a huge leg up that we have that we haven't talked as much about, and again, we'll focus on this in December, is all the renewables and storage that we have. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ ๊ทธ์ ๋ด์ฌ๋ ํจ์จ์ฑ ๋๋ถ์ ์ฝ 20๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ณตํฉํ๋ ฅ๋ฐ์ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค๊ณผ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ ๋ํด ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 12์์ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ ํนํ ์ด์ ์ -- ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ๋ฐ์ ์๋ฅผ ๊ฑด์คํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ฝ 4๋ , 5๋ , 6๋ ์ ๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ๊ธด ์๊ฐ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ง์ด ์ธ๊ธํ์ง ์์๋ ํฐ ๊ฐ์ ์ด ์๋๋ฐ, ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง 12์์ ์ด๊ฒ์ ์ง์คํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌ์์๋์ง์ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น์ ๋๋ค. |
| And so when data centers want to get online now and quickly and they want to secure a load interconnect by bringing their own generation, we can accommodate that because we have the solar and the storage that's ready to go and then the gas can come behind it. So we're in a bit of a unique position there in terms of our ability to really kind of hook and anchor data center build-out, as we position our portfolio for these larger scale data center build-outs, we call, data center hubs that can be followed on by gas, maybe SMR technology going back to the collaboration nationally that we have with Google. So just a lot to be excited about. | ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ๋ค์ด ์ง๊ธ ๋น์ฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์จ๋ผ์ธ์ ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ฒด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ๋์ ํ์ฌ ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์ ํ ๋, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฆ์ ํฌ์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ์๊ด๊ณผ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์์ฉํ ์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ดํ ๊ฐ์ค ๋ฐ์ ์ด ๋ค๋ฐ๋ฅผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๊ฒฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ ์ ์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ค์ ๋ ํนํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ํฌ์ง์ ๋ํ๋ฉด์, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ํ๋ธ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฅด๋๋ฐ, ์ดํ ๊ฐ์ค ๋ฐ์ ์ด๋ ๊ตฌ๊ธ๊ณผ์ ๊ตญ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ ฅ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ๋ฉด SMR ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ๋ค๋ฐ๋ฅผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ํ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator The next question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Nicholas Campanella Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division I just wanted to ask going back on nuclear. There's a lot of momentum right now for AP1000. And just curious what your appetite would be in participating in something like that? Or if in terms of new nuclear, should we be solely kind of focused on SMR and restarts of current large-scale plants? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. I think for us right now -- I mean, we have Duane Arnold that we talked about. We have Point Beach, we have Seabrook. We have -- we'll be turning our attention to those 2 facilities as we optimize. | ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐํด๋ ์ด์ฆ์ ๋์ฝ๋ผ์ค ์บํ๋ฌ๋ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ฝ๋ผ์ค ์บํ๋ฌ๋ผ ๋ฐํด๋ ์ด์ฆ ์ํ PLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์์๋ ฅ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ AP1000์ ๋ํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ด ์๋นํ ํฝ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํ์ค ์ํฅ์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋๋ฉด ์ ๊ท ์์๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ SMR(์ํ๋ชจ๋์์๋ก)๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ํ ๋ฐ์ ์์ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋์๋ง ์ง์คํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ์ ํฌ ์ ์ฅ์์๋ ํ์ฌ -- ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๋์ ์๋๋๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ์ธํธ ๋น์น๋ ์๊ณ , ์๋ธ๋ฃฉ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ๋ ์์ค์ ์ต์ ํํ๋ฉด์ ๊ทธ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ๊ด์ฌ์ ๋๋ฆด ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| But one thing that's really exciting is that we probably have 6 gigawatts of SMR capacity across those 3 sites, not to mention back to the development platform. And we are a nationwide development company, right, that has a national footprint. So we also are looking at greenfield sites as well going back to that anchor point around having existing generation ready to go that can accommodate Phase 1, 2, 3 of a data center build-out, as we wait for gas-fired generation to come or SMR technology to come behind that. And we're doing a lot of work around SMRs, and we'll talk more about in December. | ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ก์ด ์ ์ ์ด 3๊ฐ ๋ถ์ง์์ ์ฝ 6๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ์ SMR(์ํ๋ชจ๋์์๋ก) ์ฉ๋์ ํ๋ณดํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ๋ฉด ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง ์ ๊ตญ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ์ฌ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐํ๋ ๋ถ์ง๋ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ฐ์ค ๋ฐ์ ์ด๋ SMR ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ๋ค๋ฐ๋ผ ์ค๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ฆฌ๋ ๋์, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ 1๋จ๊ณ, 2๋จ๊ณ, 3๋จ๊ณ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ์์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ์ฆ์ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ํต์ฌ ํฌ์ธํธ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ SMR๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํ์ฌ ๋ง์ ์์ ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 12์์ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| But I also want to go back to what I said about SMRs, which is that we're going to be very disciplined in our capital allocation strategy and making sure that we have the right commercial and financial structure where we limit any financial exposure that we have, as we invest in those facilities. But when you think about NextEra, I mean, we're really unique because the hyperscaler is investing tens of billions of dollars. This is not like the business 4 or 5 years ago, competing against a lot of small developers. They can't do this, right? | ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๊ฐ SMR์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ์ ๋ต์ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์๊ฒฉํ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ค์ ํฌ์ํ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ๋ ธ์ถ์ ์ ํํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ ํ ์์ ์ ๋ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ถ๋๋ก ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง NextEra๋ฅผ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๋ง ๋ ํนํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ๋ค์ด ์๋ฐฑ์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ 4~5๋ ์ ์ ์ฌ์ ๊ณผ๋ ๋ค๋ฆ ๋๋ค. ๋น์์๋ ๋ง์ ์๊ท๋ชจ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์ํ์์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ผ์ ํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| The folks that can do this are large-scale developers like NextEra that have a strong balance sheet, a track record, the credibility to be able to match what the hyperscaler needs and the ability to build across generation types, whether it's renewables, whether it's storage, whether it's gas, whether it's nuclear, whether we need to bring a transmission solution to bear, whether we need to build a gas pipeline lateral to enable a gas build-out. I mean, all the things that we bring to the table are pretty unique. | ์ด๋ฌํ ์ผ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ NextEra์ ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ฌ๋ค์ ๋๋ค. ํํํ ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ค์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ์ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ ์ถฉ์กฑ์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ์ ๋ขฐ์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌ์์๋์ง๋ , ์๋์ง์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ , ๊ฐ์ค๋ , ์์๋ ฅ์ด๋ ๋ค์ํ ๋ฐ์ ์ ํ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ฑด์คํ ์ ์๋ ์ญ๋์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ก์ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ๋์ ํด์ผ ํ๋ , ๊ฐ์ค ํ์ฅ์ ์ํด ๊ฐ์ค ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ์ธก์ ์ ๊ฑด์คํด์ผ ํ๋ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ์ฆ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ญ๋๋ค์ ์๋นํ ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And again, combined with that large balance sheet, the team and the customer relationships and the ability to secure load interconnects and work with utilities and co-ops and municipalities, I mean, that really kind of puts us in a pretty small group of folks. And so as we look at the market, really, I think -- I look at the DOE letter that was sent recently over to FERC and more of a focus on bring your own generation. I mean I think that just absolutely plays to all of our strengths and advantages. And it's -- the future is exciting. Nicholas Campanella Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division That's great. I really appreciate that. Good points. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ์ ํจ๊ป, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด๊ณ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์ ๋ ฅํ์ฌ, ํ๋์กฐํฉ, ์ง๋ฐฉ์์น๋จ์ฒด์ ํ๋ ฅํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ, ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ง ์์์ ๊ธฐ์
๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ง๋ญ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ฅ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณผ ๋, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ ์๊ฐ์๋ -- ์ต๊ทผ DOE๊ฐ FERC์ ๋ณด๋ธ ์ํ๊ณผ ์์ฒด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น ๊ตฌ์ถ(bring your own generation)์ ๋ํ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ด์ฌ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ฅ์ ์ ์๋ฒฝํ๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฏธ๋๋ ์ ๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง์งํฉ๋๋ค. Nicholas Campanella Barclays Bank PLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํ๋ฅญํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ข์ ์ง์ ์ด์ญ๋๋ค. |
| And I know that you've been doing this 6% to 8% outlook for a long time. You've basically been beating that every year. And you look at some other premium companies out there now doing 7% to 9%. What's your philosophy and how you're thinking about long-term growth? And is that a consideration at all as we are thinking about what could be out there on the Analyst Day? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman All great questions, and we'll address those on December 8. Operator The next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Julien Dumoulin-Smith Jefferies LLC, Research Division Congratulations, team. Good to hear from you. | ๋ชจ๋ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ค์ด๋ฉฐ, 12์ 8์ผ์ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตํ์ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Jefferies์ Julien Dumoulin-Smith๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. Julien Dumoulin-Smith Jefferies LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค, ํ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ. ์์ ๋ฃ๊ฒ ๋์ด ๋ฐ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Look, I just wanted to follow up on a couple of things here. First, with respect to the gas and contracted gas strategy, can you speak a little bit to what you're expecting or what success you've had thus far? I know this may be digging a little bit into the December update. But to the extent possible, can you discuss a little bit of the latest progress? And should we expect more of these hyperscaler type announcements like Google, but to be parlayed back into contracted gas? And is there a cadence that you'd be care to share as you think about this ramps up? | ๋ค, ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ๊ฐ์ค ๋ฐ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฐ์ค ์ ๋ต๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์, ํ์ฌ๊น์ง ๊ธฐ๋ํ์๋ ๋ฐ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋์ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? ์ด๊ฒ์ด 12์ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ ์ทจํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค๋ง, ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์์ ์ต๊ทผ ์งํ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํด ๋ ผ์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ตฌ๊ธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ ์ ํ์ ๋ฐํ๊ฐ ๋ ๋์ฌ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํด์ผ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฐ์ค๋ก ๋ค์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ํ๋๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋ ์งํ ์ผ์ ์ด๋ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
| I mean, I know it's early days in that longer-dated 2030-plus time frame, but how would you begin to characterize that opportunity, as it is -- as it stands today? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. So a lot in the hopper is how I would describe it, Julien. A lot of different things that we are working on. And I mentioned our data center hub strategy, which I don't want to spend too much time on today because, again, we're going to get into that in December. Obviously, building out combined cycle units is a big part of that. We think the things that we have in front of us are attractive across the class of hyperscalers that we see. | ์ ๋ง์, 2030๋
์ดํ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์๊ฐ๋์์๋ ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ง๋ง, ํ์ฌ ์์ ์์ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ๊ฐํ๊ธฐ ์์ํ์๋์ง์? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ค๋น ์ค์ธ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค, Julien. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ค์ํ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ๋ง์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ํ๋ธ ์ ๋ต์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋๋ฐ, ์ค๋์ ์ด๊ฒ์ ๋ํด ๋๋ฌด ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํ ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด 12์์ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๋ํด ์์ธํ ๋ค๋ฃฐ ์์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๋ช ํ, ๋ณตํฉํ๋ ฅ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ํฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| We think the position that we have around our existing renewable portfolio is an enticing way to secure an early-stage load interconnect, as the gas comes later. And so the ability to provide gas with renewables and storage or with SMR technology, the ability to build out the infrastructure necessary to accommodate all that, whether it's transmission, whether it's gas pipelines, I think all plays to our strengths and our advantages together with the supply chain capability that we have. | ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ์ฌ์์๋์ง ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ณดํ ํฌ์ง์ ์ด ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ค๋ ๋์ค์ ํฌ์ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฌ์์๋์ง ๋ฐ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น์ ํจ๊ป ๊ฐ์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฑฐ๋ SMR ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ก์ ๋ง์ด๋ ๊ฐ์ค ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ด๋ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ฉํ๋ ๋ฐ ํ์ํ ์ธํ๋ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ์ญ๋๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ๋ฐํํ๋ ์์๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| And so in terms of cadence, look -- we look forward to kind of laying this out for you guys in December, but I feel really good about the competitive positioning that we have today because, again, I go back to the fact that there are very few folks that can actually garner the trust, the confidence, the balance sheet, all the things that you saw with the partnership that we have with Google that we're having a lot of success with other hyperscalers as well that looks promising for our future. So more to come. Julien Dumoulin-Smith Jefferies LLC, Research Division Excellent. I appreciate it. | ๊ทธ๋์ ์๊ธฐ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋, 12์์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ป ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช
ํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ค๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๊ฒฝ์์ ์์น์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด, ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ ๋ขฐ์ ํ์ ์ ์ป์ ์ ์๊ณ , ํํํ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ํ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, Google๊ณผ์ ํํธ๋์ญ์์ ๋ณด์
จ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์์๋ค์ ๊ฐ์ถ ๊ธฐ์
์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋๋ฌผ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ๋ค๊ณผ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๋งํด ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋ง์ ์์์ด ์์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. Julien Dumoulin-Smith (์ค๋ฆฌ์ ๋ค๋ฌผ๋ญ-์ค๋ฏธ์ค) Jefferies LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํ๋ฅญํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
| And then related here, just to elaborate a little bit further on that net originations discussion here. Can you elaborate a little bit? I mean, obviously, there's been some media attention around Esmeralda and Jackalope, for instance. Can you speak a little bit how that fits in? Were they in your backlog or the position? I mean just trying to juxtapose the broader media conversation, which isn't particularly articulate about this versus what we're seeing in the quarterly update. John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes, absolutely. So Esmeralda is just a development project. It was not in our backlog. It was a development project for the future on BLM land. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ๊ด๋ จํ์ฌ, ์ ์ ๊ท ํ๋ก์ ํธ ๋
ผ์์ ๋ํด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช
ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด Esmeralda์ Jackalope์ ๋ํ ์ธ๋ก ์ ๊ด์ฌ์ด ์์๋๋ฐ์. ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ด๋ค์ด ๊ท์ฌ์ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ๋ ํฌ์ง์
์ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์๋์ง์? ์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ญ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ช
ํํ์ง ์์ ์ธ๋ก ๋ณด๋ ๋ด์ฉ๊ณผ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ์์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋น๊ตํด๋ณด๊ณ ์ ํจ์
๋๋ค. John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค. Esmeralda๋ ๋จ์ํ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. BLM(์ฐ๋ฐฉํ ์ง๊ด๋ฆฌ๊ตญ) ์์ ํ ์ง์์ ์งํํ ๋ฏธ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| I think the BLM was actually pretty clear that -- while they were not looking to permit this as one large project, they were going to entertain applications around individual projects. But remember, we have a massive pipeline, right? So this was just one piece of it. We spent no money on Esmeralda. It's a project in development that we could develop someday down the road. So really, there's really nothing to see there. And then on Jackalope, that project, we'll extend out a little bit more. We continue to work with the customer there. And we'll see what happens. But I mean, again, that's just one small project in the grand scheme of things for a massive backlog that we have. | ์ ์๊ฐ์ BLM(ํ ์ง๊ด๋ฆฌ๊ตญ)์ ์๋นํ ๋ช
ํํ ์
์ฅ์ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ๋์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ก ํ๊ฐํ์ง๋ ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ๊ฐ๋ณ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๋ํ ์ ์ฒญ์ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ธฐ์ตํ์
์ผ ํ ์ ์, ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ํ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด๊ฒ์ ๊ทธ ์ค ์ผ๋ถ์ ๋ถ๊ณผํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ Esmeralda์ ์ ํ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ง์ถํ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์๋ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ก, ์ธ์ ๊ฐ ํฅํ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐํ ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ํน๋ณํ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ๊ฒ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Jackalope์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ํด๋น ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์ฐ์ฅ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ํ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋๋์ง ์ง์ผ๋ณผ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ด๊ฒ ์ญ์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ ๋ฐฉ๋ํ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ(์์ฃผ์๊ณ )๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด ํ๋์ ์์ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๋ถ๊ณผํฉ๋๋ค. |
| And again, don't forget, I mean, that's why we have 1.5x coverage on our inventory. I don't worry about it at all. We can easily draw from other projects in our pipeline to be able to satisfy customer needs as we go forward. And that puts us in incredibly good position. Operator The next question comes from the line of Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs. Carly Davenport Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Maybe just another quick follow-up on the backlog. A lot of the additions this quarter coming beyond the 2027 time frame. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์์ง ๋ง์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ณ ์ ๋ํด 1.5๋ฐฐ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ์ ํ ๊ฑฑ์ ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํฅํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์ํค๊ธฐ ์ํด ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ฝ๊ฒ ์กฐ๋ฌํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ๋์ด๊ฒ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์งํ์ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Goldman Sachs์ Carly Davenport ๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. Carly Davenport Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ๋จํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ ๋ฌผ๋์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด 2027๋ ์ดํ ์์ ์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์๋๋ฐ์. |
| So just as we think about that potential pull forward in demand related to the tax credits rolling off that you all have referred to, is that strictly a 2028-plus opportunity? Or is there any opportunity to see that impact '26, '27 as well? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. I think -- the pull forward of demand, Carly, I think it just escalates as you get closer to 2030. So you just continue to see step-ups there. And so for '26 and '27, we feel very good about where we sit right now. I think we've got more quarters to go in terms of filling the '27 piece. But again, we look at our financial plan for '26 and '27 in good shape. | 2028๋
์ดํ์ ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ์ข
๋ฃ์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์์ ์ ์ทจ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํ์ฌ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์์ ํ 2028๋
์ดํ์ ๊ธฐํ์ธ์ง, ์๋๋ฉด 2026๋
์ด๋ 2027๋
์๋ ๊ทธ ์ํฅ์ ๋ณผ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, Carly, ์์ ์ ์ทจ ํ์์ 2030๋ ์ ๊ฐ๊น์์ง์๋ก ์ ์ ๋ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ทธ ์์ ์ ๊ฐ๊น์์ง์๋ก ๋จ๊ณ์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. 2026๋ ๊ณผ 2027๋ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2027๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฑ์ฐ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด์๋ ์์ง ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ ๋จ์์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, 2026๋ ๊ณผ 2027๋ ์ ๋ํ ์ ํฌ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๊ณํ์ ์ํธํ ์ํ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And what I'm really focused on is that '28, '29, '30 because there's just so many opportunities, as you look to the back end of that decade and that natural pull forward that you mentioned that we've seen historically where we could see a lot of customer demand, not only in '28, but in '29 and '30, and we're so well-positioned around FEOC and around our safe harbor position. I think we have some very unique competitive advantages that we will highlight and spend more time on in December. So as I look at the pipeline shaping up around 30 gigs and the way it's shaping up by year, I feel very good about where we sit. Carly Davenport Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Great. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ 2028๋
, 2029๋
, 2030๋
์
๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๊ทธ 10๋
๋ ํ๋ฐ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ์๊ณ , ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ด์๋ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ์์ ์ ์ง ํ์์ ๋ง์ํ์
จ๋๋ฐ, 2028๋
๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ 2029๋
๊ณผ 2030๋
์๋ ๋ง์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ FEOC(Fair Elected Option Clause)์ ์ธ์ดํ ํ๋ฒ(safe harbor) ํฌ์ง์
์ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋งค์ฐ ๋
ํนํ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฐ์๋ค์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 12์์ ๋ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํ ์ ํ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ 30๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ตฌ์ฑ๋๊ณ ์๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋๋ณ๋ก ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฑ๋๊ณ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฒํ ์์น์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์นผ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ์ด๋ธํฌํธ ๊ณจ๋๋ง์ญ์ค ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. |
| And then maybe just back on Duane Arnold. The $0.16 of average accretion that you mentioned in the first 10 years of the PPA, is there any color that you can provide on the cadence or if there's significant variability year-to-year that we should be thinking about? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman There is not significant variability year-to-year. The reason we said that is -- remember, there's refueling outages for nuclear. And in refueling years, it's not that significant of an impact, but it moves around -- a little bit around refueling outages. So that's why we use that language. Operator Next question comes from Bill Appicelli with UBS. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋์ ์๋๋(Duane Arnold)๋ก ๋์๊ฐ์, PPA ์ฒซ 10๋
๊ฐ ํ๊ท ์ฃผ๋น $0.16์ ์ฆ๊ฐ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ง์ํ์
จ๋๋ฐ, ์ฐ๋๋ณ ์ถ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๋ คํด์ผ ํ ์ฐ๋๋ณ ํฐ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ด ์๋์ง์ ๋ํด ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ์ค๋ช
ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์? ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ(John Ketchum) ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ์ฐ๋๋ณ๋ก ํฐ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ด์ ๋ -- ์์๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ์์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ์ฌ๊ธ์ ์ ์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๊ธฐ์ตํ์ ์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธ์ ๊ฐ ์๋ ์ฐ๋์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ํฐ ์ํฅ์ ์๋์ง๋ง, ์ฌ๊ธ์ ์ ์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ฉ ๋ณ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํํ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌํ์ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ UBS์ ๋น ์ํผ์ฒผ๋ฆฌ(Bill Appicelli)๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. |
| William Appicelli UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Just going back to follow up on Carly's question around the pull forward. And just maybe you can speak to the development capabilities, right? You've sort of been averaging around this -- around 3 gigs a quarter on the low end of that. Where can that go potentially in terms of just from a capability, supply chain perspective? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Well, we're really well-positioned on our -- not only on our supply chain and the things we've been able to do around batteries and the supply chain positioning we have around the rest of the parts and equipment that we plan to purchase. | William Appicelli UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์คํธ๋จผํธ ๋ฑ ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ Carly์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋์๊ฐ์ ์์ ์ ๋ฐ์(pull forward)์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ญ๋์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋น ํ๊ท ์ฝ 3๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ์ ๋์ ํํ์ ์ ์ ์งํด ์ค์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ์ญ๋๊ณผ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ๊ด์ ์์ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ ์์ค๊น์ง ํ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ๊น์? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐฐํฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ด๋ฃจ์ด๋ธ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ค๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ, ๊ตฌ๋งค ์์ ์ธ ๋๋จธ์ง ๋ถํ๊ณผ ์ฅ๋น๋ค์ ๋ํ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ํฌ์ง์ ๋๋ ์ ๊ฐ์ถฐ์ ธ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| You guys know well, I mean, transformers, electric switchgear, other parts of the supply chain. I mean, I think that's going to create a natural competitive advantage, which goes with having a strong balance sheet and a world-class supply chain capability as we go into '28, '29, '30 that uniquely positions us for the opportunity that can come there, right, which -- because we can do some things that others can't. So I feel very good about, and if you look historically on pull-forward years, we have fared very well on a market share basis compared to our competition there. | ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ ์ ์์๋ค์ํผ, ๋ณ์๊ธฐ, ์ ๊ธฐ ๊ฐํ ์ฅ์น, ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ถํ๋ค ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ '28๋ , '29๋ , '30๋ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ฉด์ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ํํํ ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ๊ณ์ ์์ค์ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ์ญ๋์ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋ง๋ฌผ๋ ค ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์์ ์ฌ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํด ๋ ํนํ๊ฒ ํฌ์ง์ ๋ํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ์ฌ๋ค์ด ํ ์ ์๋ ์ผ๋ค์ ํ ์ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ ์ทจ(pull-forward) ์ฐ๋๋ค์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ ๋นํด ์์ฅ์ ์ ์จ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| And also, as we start thinking about being able to not only do what I call kind of the bread-and-butter business around origination, but then also adding on being able to fold in renewables and storage into large load solutions as I've mentioned a couple of times on this call, I mean, it's really an incremental opportunity that we haven't had before, as you think about serving that large load customer. So the demand pull forward is something that we're obviously very focused on and have positioned the business around. And I think we're going to be uniquely capable and positioned to capitalize on the opportunity it's going to bring. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋จ์ํ ์ ๊ฐ ๋งํ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ฌ์ , ์ฆ ์ ๋ ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ณ์ฝ ์ฒด๊ฒฐ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ, ์ ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฒ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์ ๋ช ์ฐจ๋ก ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ์ฌ์์๋์ง์ ์๋์ง ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐํฉํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด์, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ง๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด์ ์๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ชปํ๋ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋๋ค. ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์๋น์คํ๋ค๋ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์์ ์ ์ทจ(demand pull forward)๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ์ ์ ํฌ์ง์ ๋ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ฐ์ ธ์ฌ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ธ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| William Appicelli UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Great. And then just shifting gears on -- at FPL, the large load growth. I guess how is the valuation of that going? I think you've talked about maybe 3 gigs of initial sites or capability. I'm sure you'll speak more to this in December, but any color there around tariff structure or sort of the work and the conversations around bringing those customers in? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes, I'll turn that over to Armando. Armando Pimentel President & CEO of Florida Power & Light Company All right. Thank you. | ์๋ฆฌ์ ์ ํผ์ฒผ๋ฆฌ UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์คํธ๋จผํธ ๋ฑ ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ FPL์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ํ์ ๋ฅผ ์ ํํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ํ๊ฐ๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์งํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๊น? ์ด๊ธฐ ์ฌ์ดํธ๋ ์ฉ๋์ด ์ฝ 3๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ์ ๋๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 12์์ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํ์ค ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐ๋๋๋ฐ, ์๊ธ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ ์นํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์์ ๋ฐ ํ์ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ต๋๊น? ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์๋ฅด๋ง๋์๊ฒ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅด๋ง๋ ํผ๋ฉํ ํ๋ก๋ฆฌ๋ค ํ์ ์ค ๋ผ์ดํธ ์ปดํผ๋ ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฒธ CEO ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
| So we've got a couple of tariffs that are up for approval at the commission that we are going to hear about on November 20. Regardless of that, we've had folks that have been pinging us all year on availability of getting onto our system, when can they get on to our system and so on. So we are no different at Florida Power & Light than many of the utilities that you guys follow around the nation. These hyperscalers and these data center operators are looking to figure out where they can plug in and how quickly they can plug in. I think what John and Mike Dunne have mentioned before is that this is a potential opportunity at FPL later this decade. And I think for now, that's right. | ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 11์ 20์ผ์ ์์ํ์ ์น์ธ์ ๋ฐ์์ผ ํ๋ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์๊ธ์์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ๊ณผ๋ ๋ณ๊ฐ๋ก, ์ฌํด ๋ด๋ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณํต์ ์ ์ํ ์ ์๋์ง, ์ธ์ ์ ์ํ ์ ์๋์ง ๋ฑ์ ๋ํด ๋ฌธ์ํ๋ ๋ถ๋ค์ด ๊ณ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ Florida Power & Light๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ง์ ์ ๋ ฅํ์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ค๋ฅด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ด์์ ์ฒด๋ค์ ์ด๋์ ์ ์ํ ์ ์๊ณ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ ์ํ ์ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ํ์ ํ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์๊ฐ์ John๊ณผ Mike Dunne์ด ์ด์ ์ ์ธ๊ธํ ๊ฒ์ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ด๋ฒ 10๋ ๋ ํ๋ฐ์ FPL์๊ฒ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฌ๋ก์๋ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| That could certainly change. But we are spending a lot of time doing engineering studies for everyone that you could imagine. And we hope that the environment here in Florida is one that the hyperscalers and data center operators will come to embrace. I mean, why not? We've got a great system at a low cost. So we feel really good about it. Operator The next question comes from the line of David Arcaro with Morgan Stanley. David Arcaro Morgan Stanley, Research Division I was wondering if you could talk about how renewables are interacting with data centers, especially over the next couple of years for projects that you've been working on. | ํ์คํ ๋ณํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์์ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ณณ์ ์ํด ์์ง๋์ด๋ง ์ฐ๊ตฌ์ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ๋ก๋ฆฌ๋ค์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ด์์๋ค์ด ๋ฐ์๋ค์ผ ์ ์๋ ๊ณณ์ด ๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ ๋๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๋ ดํ ๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ฅญํ ์์คํ
์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตํ์ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Morgan Stanley์ David Arcaro๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. David Arcaro Morgan Stanley, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํนํ ๊ท์ฌ๊ฐ ์งํํด ์ค์ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ค์์ ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์์๋์ง๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ํธ์์ฉํ๋์ง์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| I was curious if there's any percentage of power needs that you find are typically covered by renewables when you're powering data centers? Are you seeing any colocation opportunities? And how does battery storage get involved? So curious if you could give kind of a sense of the typical relationship or design that you're seeing there. John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes, David, what we're seeing there is data centers want to get going immediately, right? And so they want to build out the initial phases of their campus, which could be -- end up being 1,000-, 3,000-, 4,000-, 5,000-acre campuses. Every 1,000 acres is about 1 gigawatt of capacity. | ์ ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ์ ๋ ฅ์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ๋ ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ์์๋์ง๊ฐ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์์ ๋น์จ์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฝ๋ก์ผ์ด์
(colocation) ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฐํฐ๋ฆฌ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ด์ฌํ๋์? ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์์ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ด๊ณ๋ ์ค๊ณ์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ์ ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์กด ์ผ์ฒจ(John Ketchum) ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ๋ฐ์ด๋น๋, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ๋ค์ด ์ฆ์ ๊ฐ๋์ ์ํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์บ ํผ์ค์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ 1,000์์ด์ปค, 3,000์์ด์ปค, 4,000์์ด์ปค, 5,000์์ด์ปค ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์บ ํผ์ค๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. 1,000์์ด์ปค๋น ์ฝ 1๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ์ ์ฉ๋์ ๋๋ค. |
| But as they think about permitting and constructing their facility, I mean, the first thing they're looking for is load interconnect. And a lot of parts of the country in securing a load interconnect, you've got to bring your own generation. And so what's unique, I think, about what we can do around renewables is we can get them over the hump over those first few years of being able to identify a site, being able to identify a generation solution that's sufficient to get them that load interconnect, whether it's through a combination of renewables or renewables and battery storage. We've seen that in a number of places. | ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์์ค ํ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑด์ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋จผ์ ์ฐพ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ๋ ฅ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ๋ง์ ์ง์ญ์์ ์ ๋ ฅ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ค๋ฉด ์์ฒด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฌ์์๋์ง ๋ถ์ผ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ ์ ์๋ ์ผ์ ๋ ํนํ ์ ์, ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ์ ์ ํ๊ณ ์ ๋ ฅ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๋ฐ์ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ์ฐพ์์ผ ํ๋ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ ค์์ ๊ทน๋ณตํ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋์ธ ์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ์์๋์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก๋ , ์ฌ์์๋์ง์ ๋ฐฐํฐ๋ฆฌ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น์ ์กฐํฉ์ด๋ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ณณ์์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ฌ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We've also seen the ability to leverage like GridLiance, where we can do upgrades on a system that can actually free up additional megawatts needed to secure that initial load interconnect. But that's the key. You got to get the load interconnect to be able to take the power off the grid to be able to satisfy the initial phases. And many of the load serving entities are saying, well, bring your own generation to make that happen. And we're able to do that with renewables, with storage, with GridLiance. And then the plan is to bring the baseload generation behind it. | ๋ํ GridLiance๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ๋ ํ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์คํ ์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ด๊ธฐ ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ์ ํ์ํ ์ถ๊ฐ ๋ฉ๊ฐ์ํธ๋ฅผ ์ค์ ๋ก ํ๋ณดํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํต์ฌ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์ํค๊ธฐ ์ํด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋์์ ์ ๋ ฅ์ ๋ฐ์์ฌ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ์ ๋ ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ธฐ๊ด๋ค์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์์ฒด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ค๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ตฌํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ์์๋์ง, ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น, GridLiance๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ ๋ค์ ๊ณํ์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ถํ ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ฅผ ํ์์ผ๋ก ๋์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And so when you can combine a comprehensive solution for the hyperscaler, that's what they're looking for and a trusted partner that they know can get it done over time. And we can grow right alongside with them as they're expanding their existing facility. David Arcaro Morgan Stanley, Research Division Got it. Makes sense. That's helpful. And I was wondering if you could talk about what you're seeing in terms of project returns, the trajectory there? And is there a case for higher returns too as we go forward through the end of the year? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes, that's a great question. | ๊ทธ๋์ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ํ ์ข
ํฉ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๊ณ , ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์ ๋ขฐํ๋ ํํธ๋๊ฐ ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์ฐพ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ๊ธฐ์กด ์์ค์ ํ์ฅํ๋ ๋์ ํจ๊ป ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. David Arcaro Morgan Stanley, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ดํด๊ฐ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ๋ก์ ํธ ์์ต๋ฅ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ถ์ธ์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ง๊น์ง ๋ ๋์ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ ์ ์๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ๋ ์์๊น์? John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And I've said this a month ago, returns have been higher than I've ever seen them in this industry. And I think that's due in part to the unique competitive advantage that we have, and it's exciting for us because as I think about all the opportunities that we have, not only this decade but into the next, recontracting is a big piece of that. And so we have a lot of existing generation that rolls off a contract by the end of the decade that we're going to be able to recontract into the market at much higher premiums. But look, it's just supply and demand. It's that simple. There's a lot of demand out there, and there's just not as much supply to match it. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ ๋ฌ ์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์์ต๋ฅ ์ด ์ ๊ฐ ์ด ์ ๊ณ์์ ๋ณธ ๊ฒ ์ค ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ ํนํ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฐ์ ๋๋ถ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ์ด๋ฒ 10๋ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ๋ค์ 10๋ ๊น์ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ชจ๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, ์ฌ๊ณ์ฝ์ด ๊ทธ ์ค ํฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 10๋ ๋ง๊น์ง ๊ณ์ฝ์ด ๋ง๋ฃ๋๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ฐ์ ์ค๋น๋ค์ด ๋ง์ด ์๊ณ , ์ด๋ฅผ ํจ์ฌ ๋์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์์ผ๋ก ์์ฅ์ ์ฌ๊ณ์ฝํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์ ์์์ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋จํฉ๋๋ค. ์์๋ ๋ง์๋ฐ, ๊ทธ์ ๋ง๋ ๊ณต๊ธ์ด ์ถฉ๋ถํ์ง ์์ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. |
| And so that's commanding premiums in the market and high and attractive returns. And that's why it's great to be in a position where we have a really strong pipeline and a really strong supply chain position. And I think we're going to be uniquely positioned going forward to be able to capitalize on what is going to become just a growing market demand, particularly as we get to the end of this decade and into the next. Operator The next question comes from the line of Nick Amicucci with Evercore ISI. Nicholas Amicucci Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Just wanted to touch upon kind of the evolution that we just kind of left upon. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ์์ฅ์์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์์ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๋๊ณ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ํฌ์ง์
์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ ์์น์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ๋
๋ณด์ ์ธ ์์น์ ์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํนํ ์ด๋ฒ 10๋
๋ ๋ง๊ณผ ๋ค์ 10๋
๋๋ก ์ ์ด๋ค๋ฉด์ ๊ณ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ์์ฅ ์์๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๋
ํนํ ์์น์ ์์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์คํผ๋ ์ดํฐ ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Evercore ISI์ Nick Amicucci๋์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. Nicholas Amicucci Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ ์งํ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| So as we kind of think about over the balance of this decade into the next, how should we be thinking about the kind of the portfolio, the kind of culmination of that and kind of if we think about it by energy and generation source, obviously, we saw storage kind of tick up here from a backlog perspective. Just interested in kind of hearing your thoughts around it. John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. I mean -- so as I think about the next decade, we've always had Florida Power & Light. | ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด๋ฒ 10๋
์ ๋๋จธ์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋ค์ 10๋
์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฌผ์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ์๋์ง์๊ณผ ๋ฐ์ ์๋ณ๋ก ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น(storage)๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ํ ๊ทํ์ ๊ฒฌํด๋ฅผ ๋ฃ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. John Ketchum ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ํ์ฅ ๋ค, ์ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ค์ 10๋ ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณผ ๋, ์ ํฌ๋ ํญ์ Florida Power & Light๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| And Florida Power & Light benefits from being in fastest-growing state in the United States, 16th largest economy in the world, strong growth as we accommodate all that population that continues to move into Florida. Don't see that slowing down next decade. But as you think about our regulated businesses, it's not just what I call kind of the baseload Florida Power & Light, it's the large load with the large load tariff that we have not had before. It's electric transmission. There's an incredible demand for transmission around the country. We have the leading competitive transmission business in NextEra Energy Transmission. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Florida Power & Light๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ์ฃผ์ด์ ์ธ๊ณ 16์ ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง ํ๋ก๋ฆฌ๋ค์ ์์นํ ์ด์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ๋ก๋ฆฌ๋ค๋ก ๊ณ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ ์ธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์์ฉํ๋ฉด์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ ํฅํ 10๋ ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ ๊ท์ ์ฌ์ ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ๊ฐ ๋งํ๋ Florida Power & Light์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ถํ๋ง์ด ์๋๋ผ, ์ด์ ์๋ ์์๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ถํ ์๊ธ์ (large load tariff)๋ฅผ ํตํ ๋ํ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ก์ ์ฌ์ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ก์ ์ ๋ํ ์์ฒญ๋ ์์๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ NextEra Energy Transmission์ ํตํด ์ ๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ ์๋ ์ก์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| So a lot of CapEx opportunities and growth opportunities for NEET as we go forward. And then you add on gas transmission as well, not only around the existing pipeline assets that we own today, but also, I think, some long-haul greenfield opportunities that we'll be talking more about, gas laterals to accommodate hyperscale build-outs. So that really helps to frame even a larger regulated business than we have had historically. | ๋ง์ ์๋ณธ ์ง์ถ ๊ธฐํ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ NEET์ ์์ผ๋ก ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ค ์ ์ก ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ์ถ๊ฐ๋๋๋ฐ, ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ธฐ์กด ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ์์ฐ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ, ์์ผ๋ก ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ฅ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐํ๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ํ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ์ง์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ฐ์ค ์ง์ ๋ค๋ ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์์๋ค์ด ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๊ท์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ตฌ์ฑํ๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| And then you think about all the other levers and ways to grow that we have on the Energy Resources side, not just the renewable business that just gets stronger and stronger as we get into the next -- the end of this decade, and then that will carry into the next, but storage as well. We are in a capacity short market. Storage is economically advantaged. It's flexible. It can be built very quickly in 16 to 18 months, whereas gas-fired peakers take 4 to 5 years in many cases. So very flexible, very low cost. And that we are the world's leader in storage and have a unique position with our battery supply agreement that's all domestic and is derisked from a FEOC standpoint. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋์ง ์์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ ๋ฒ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ฐฉ์๋ค์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋จ์ํ ์ฌ์์๋์ง ์ฌ์ ๋ง์ด ์๋๋๋ค. ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ ์ด๋ฒ 10๋ ๋ ๋ง๋ก ๊ฐ์๋ก ์ ์ ๋ ๊ฐํด์ง๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ค์ 10๋ ๋๋ก๋ ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น(storage) ์ฌ์ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ฐ์ ์ฉ๋์ด ๋ถ์กฑํ ์์ฅ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ฆฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฐํ๊ณ , 16~18๊ฐ์์ด๋ฉด ๋งค์ฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ฑด์คํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฐ๋ฉด, ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ ํผ์ปค(์ฒจ๋๋ถํ ๋ฐ์ ์)๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ 4~5๋ ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์ฐํ๊ณ ๋น์ฉ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ฎ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ธ๊ณ์ ์ ๋์ฃผ์์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋ ๊ตญ๋ด์ฐ์ธ ๋ฐฐํฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ณ์ฝ์ ํตํด ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ธ ์์น๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , FEOC(์ธ๊ตญ ์ ์ฑ๊ตญ ์ฐ๋ ค) ๊ด์ ์์๋ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๊ฐ ์ ๊ฑฐ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| And then I think about nuclear, the agreement that we announced today not only around Duane Arnold, but the collaboration around advanced nuclear nationwide, all the opportunities we have around Point Beach, we have around Seabrook and then greenfield advanced nuclear build-out and then gas-fired generation as well, having been the leader in gas-fired generation development over the last 20 years, leveraging the development platform that we have today, the 20-gigawatt pipeline that's in place. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์๋ ฅ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ค๋ ๋ฐํํ Duane Arnold ๊ด๋ จ ํฉ์๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ฐจ์ธ๋ ์์๋ ฅ ํ๋ ฅ, Point Beach์ Seabrook ๊ด๋ จ ๊ธฐํ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ท ๋ถ์ง์์์ ์ฐจ์ธ๋ ์์๋ ฅ ๊ฑด์ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 20๋ ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์คํ๋ ฅ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ ๋์ฃผ์๋ก์, ํ์ฌ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ 20๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ํธ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| And then you combine all those capabilities into serving the large load customer, which really, as I said before, creates a unique position for us when you combine all the capabilities we have around generation, all the capabilities we have around electric transmission and gas pipelines and also our customer supply business because remember, whenever you're trying to secure a load interconnect, you've got to have a retail energy capability to get that load interconnect from load-serving entities. The customer supply business plays a very important role. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฒฐํฉํ์ฌ ๋ํ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋๋ฐ, ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋ ํนํ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ค์ด์ค๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ญ๋, ์ก์ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์ค ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ๊ด๋ จ ๋ชจ๋ ์ญ๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ณต๊ธ ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฒฐํฉํ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ์ตํ์ ์ผ ํ ๊ฒ์, ์ ๋ ฅ ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ค๊ณ ํ ๋๋ง๋ค ์ ๋ ฅ๊ณต๊ธ์ฌ์ ์(load-serving entities)๋ก๋ถํฐ ํด๋น ๋ถํ ์ฐ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ์ํด์๋ ์๋งค ์๋์ง ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ณต๊ธ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ์ญํ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| You have to be able to do many, many things to be able to enable a large load transaction, and you have to have the balance sheet and you have to have the team. And we also have a 50-state footprint to be able to execute against that, which is really, really unique, given that we've been doing that for 20 years. And then the recontracting opportunity that I mentioned before. I mean we have a massive long power position that becomes open as we get to the end of this decade. And then all the artificial intelligence things that we're doing to really help drive efficiencies and cost savings across the business and revenue opportunities for us as well. | ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ถํ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํ๋ ค๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ํ ์ ์์ด์ผ ํ๋ฉฐ, ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ์ ํ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ ์ ์๋ 50๊ฐ ์ฃผ ์ ์ญ์ ์ฌ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ 20๋ ๋์ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ํํด์จ ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด ์ ๋ง๋ก ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ ์ฌ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐํ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฒ 10๋ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์ฉํด์ง๋ ๋ง๋ํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ ฅ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ํจ์จ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ด์งํ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ํ ์์ต ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ํํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ธ๊ณต์ง๋ฅ ๊ด๋ จ ํ๋๋ค๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| So you put all those pieces together, we are in really good shape post-2030. Nicholas Amicucci Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Perfect. Yes, that makes a ton of sense. And then just one last quick one for me, too. As we kind of think about now, obviously, just topic du jour with Duane Arnold and the potential restart. How are you guys seeing the nuclear fuel supply chain kind of shape up, as we kind of think about it going forward, just knowing that Russia is going to be coming offline from an enriched uranium capacity in 2028? John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman Yes. I mean I think the U.S. government is very focused on that. | ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์์๋ค์ ์ข
ํฉํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 2030๋
์ดํ์๋ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ํ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. Nicholas Amicucci Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division ์๋ฒฝํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค, ์ ๋ง ์ดํด๊ฐ ์ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ํ๋๋ง ๋ ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ๋ณด์๋ค์ํผ, ๋์ ์๋๋(Duane Arnold) ๋ฐ์ ์์ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋์ด ํ์ ๊ฐ ๋๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์. ๋ฌ์์๊ฐ 2028๋ ๋ถํฐ ๋์ถ ์ฐ๋ผ๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์์ ๋น ์ง๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ฐ์ํ ๋, ์์ผ๋ก ์์๋ ฅ ์ฐ๋ฃ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฑ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. John Ketchum President, CEO & Chairman ๋ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ ๋ถ๊ฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| The industry is very focused on that. And we've been very disciplined in terms of how we secure our long-term fuel going forward. So I feel good about where we stand. We baked into our numbers that we gave you on Google our position around where nuclear fuel sits today. Operator This concludes our question-and-answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Thank you. | ์
๊ณ๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฐ๋ฃ ํ๋ณด ๋ฐฉ์์ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ท์จ ์๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํ์ฌ ์์น์ ๋ํด ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ๊ธ์์ ์ ๊ณตํ ์์น์๋ ํ์ฌ ํต์ฐ๋ฃ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์
์ฅ์ ๋ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์์ ์ง์์๋ต ์ธ์ ์ ๋ง์น๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค๊ฐ ์ข ๋ฃ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ํ๋ ์ ํ ์ด์ ์ ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์ข ๋ฃํ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
# NextEra Energy ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ฃผ์ ์์ฝ
## ํต์ฌ ๋ด์ฉ
โข **Duane Arnold ์์ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ ๋ฐํ**: 30% ์ง๋ถ ์ถ๊ฐ ๋งค์
(์ ์ผ ๋ถ์ฑ ์ธ์๋ก ๊ตํ) ๋ฐ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ ์ถ์ง. ๋์ผ ํ์ด ์ ์ผ๊ณผ ์ฌ๊ฐ๋์ ๋ด๋นํ๋ฉฐ ์์ค ์ํ ์ํธ. ํฅํ 10๋
๊ฐ ํ๊ท ์ฃผ๋น $0.16 ์์ต ๊ธฐ์ฌ ์์. ์ฌ๊ฐ๋ ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ฏธ๊ณต๊ฐํ์ผ๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ํจ์จ์ ์คํ์ ์์ ๊ฐ ํ๋ช
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โข **์ ๊ท ์์ฃผ ๋ฐ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ํํฉ**: 3๋ถ๊ธฐ 3GW ์ ๊ท ์์ฃผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ ์ง์. 1GW ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ์ ๊ฑฐ(650MW๋ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ง์ฐ์ผ๋ก '26-'27๋
์ด์ฐ, 250MW๋ ํ๊ฐ ์ง์ฐ)ํ์ผ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๋ชฉํ์๋ ์ํฅ ์์. '28๋
์ดํ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๊ฒ ํ์ฑ ์ค์ด๋ฉฐ, 30GW ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ๋ณด์ .
โข **๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ ๋ ฅ ์์ ์ ๋ต**: ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ ๋์ ํตํฉ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ๊ณต - ์ฌ์์๋์ง/์ ์ฅ์ฅ์น๋ก ์ด๊ธฐ ๊ณํต์ฐ๊ฒฐ ํ๋ณด ํ ๊ฐ์ค๋ฐ์ /SMR๋ก ํ์ ๊ณต๊ธ. 20GW ๊ฐ์ค๋ฐ์ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ๋ณด์ , GE Vernova์ ํํธ๋์ญ, ์ ๊ตญ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋ซํผ ํ์ฉ. Google๊ณผ์ ํ๋ ฅ ํ๋ ๋ฐ ํ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ์ ํ์ ์งํ ์ค.
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| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Alex Hacking from Citi. | **Operator:** [์ด์์ ์๋ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์จํฐ์ ์๋ ์ค ํดํน์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Alexander Hacking: Citigroup Inc., Research Division Congrats on the strong results. It seems like Nucor shipments are growing faster than the industry and you referenced they're gaining share. Could you maybe give more color on the kind of specific products where you're gaining share? Any change in strategy that led to you gaining share? | **Alexander Hacking:** ์ข์ ์ค์ ์ ์ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. Nucor์ ์ถํ๋์ด ์ ๊ณ๋ณด๋ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์์ฅ ์ ์ ์จ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ค ์ ํ๊ตฐ์์ ์ ์ ์จ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์ ์ ์จ ํ๋๋ก ์ด์ด์ง ์ ๋ต์์ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์๋์ง๋ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes. Thanks, Alex. Look, let me begin, Alex, with our most important value, and that is the value of safety. We're on track for a historic eighth year in a row of lowering our I&I rates and creating the safest year in the history of our company. And so I just wanted to take a moment and thank the 33,000 team members that execute that incredible value each and every day across 40 states, 300 locations in multiple countries. So again, we begin there. But specifically to address your question, Alex, yes, we continue to stay very focused in being the market leader means that we've got to do things to stay out in front. And so as we think about how we've restructured and positioned the plate group is a great example of that, where Brandenburg has continued to ramp up, and as you heard Steve mentioned earlier in his prepared remarks, the pre-operating start-up costs reduction means that Brandenburg is ramping up faster than we had anticipated. They're doing a great job. You'll hear more about that in a few moments, I'm sure, as we get into plate later in the call. But plate is another broad example where we're focused on that. Long products is another where Nucor is going to continue to look for the opportunities to grow in bar and beams in that segment. But ultimately, what I think the strategy that you've seen playing out over the last few years has really wrapped around our commercial and construction solutions group that are looking to attach these major developers, major hyperscalers that are looking for speed and a capability set that Nucor now has in bringing that to the market. So we're getting a ton of pull-through effect in our products groups from the upstream mills from sheet, plate, bar -- engineered bar all the way through the downstream adjacent segments. So we're seeing, I think, a lot of that play out, which is increasing our market share. And again, the capability set. You heard me say in my prepared remarks as well, Alex. You think about how white hot the data center trend is today. With our Southwest Data Products acquisition, with our racking group, with the insulated metal panels as well as the breadth of the steel products that we make, we are now capable of making 95% of all steel components within the framework building and hot aisle containment within that data center. So again, it offers a very unique solution set for, again, these developers and hyperscalers. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Alex. ๋จผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ ๊ฐ์น์ธ ์์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌํด ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ธ 8๋
์ฐ์ ๋ถ์ ๋ฐ ์ง๋ณ ๋ฐ์๋ฅ (I&I rates)์ ๋ฎ์ถ๋ฉฐ ํ์ฌ ์ญ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์์ ํ ํ ํด๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ค์ด๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋น์ด 40๊ฐ ์ฃผ, 300๊ฐ ์ฌ์
์ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ตญ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋งค์ผ ์ด ๋๋ผ์ด ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์คํํ๊ณ ์๋ 33,000๋ช
์ ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๋ง์์ ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธํ์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ํด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ๋ค, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ฅ ๋ฆฌ๋๋ก์์ ์์น๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ ๊ณ์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์์ ๋๊ฐ๊ธฐ ์ํด ํ์ํ ์ผ๋ค์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํด๋๊ฐ์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์๋ฏธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ฌ๊ตฌ์กฐํํ๊ณ ํฌ์ง์ ๋ํ๋์ง ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ๋ ์ดํธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์ข์ ์ฌ๋ก์ ๋๋ค. ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์์ฐ์ ํ๋ํด์๊ณ , ์์ ์คํฐ๋ธ๊ฐ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ๊ฐ๋ ์ ์คํํธ์ ๋น์ฉ ๊ฐ์๋ ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ฐ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋ฏธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ํ ํตํ์์ ํ๋ ์ดํธ์ ๋ํด ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ค์ผ์ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ํ๋ ์ดํธ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ํ์ ์ธ ์ฌ๋ก์ ๋๋ค. ์ฅ์ฌ(long products) ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ด์ฝ์ด๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ด๊ฐ(bar)๊ณผ ๋น(beam) ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ๋ชจ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ๋ณด์ จ๋ ์ ๋ต์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ ๋ฐ ๊ฑด์ค ์๋ฃจ์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ฐ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์๋์ ์ญ๋์ ์ํ๋ ์ฃผ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ๋ํ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ๋ค์ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ฃผ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, Nucor๊ฐ ์ด์ ์ด๋ฅผ ์์ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๋ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋ฅ ๊ณต์ฅ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ ํ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์์ฒญ๋ ํ๊ธ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ํธ, ํ๋ ์ดํธ, ๋ฐ, ์์ง๋์ด๋ง ๋ฐ๋ถํฐ ํ๋ฅ์ ์ธ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๊น์ง ์ ์์ญ์์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ฌํ ํจ๊ณผ๋ค์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ฅ ์ ์ ์จ์ ๋์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ญ๋ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. Alex, ์ ๊ฐ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด์๋ฉด, ์ค๋๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ํธ๋ ๋๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋จ๊ฑฐ์ด์ง ์์ค ๊ฒ๋๋ค. Southwest Data Products ์ธ์๋ฅผ ํตํด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ํน(racking) ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋จ์ด ๊ธ์ ํจ๋(insulated metal panels), ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฌ๊ฐ ์์ฐํ๋ ๋ค์ํ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ ํ๋ค์ ํตํด, ์ด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ด ํ๋ ์์ํฌ ๋น๋ฉ๊ณผ ํซ ์์ผ ์ปจํ ์ธ๋จผํธ(hot aisle containment) ๋ด ๋ชจ๋ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ๋ถํ์ 95%๋ฅผ ์์ฒด ์์ฐํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ด๋ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ํ์ดํผ์ค์ผ์ผ๋ฌ(hyperscaler)๋ค์๊ฒ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Alexander Hacking: Citigroup Inc., Research Division I guess just a follow-up on that point on the data centers, are there specific products that Nucor is selling that are particularly exposed to data centers? I mean I know that joist and deck shipments are up over 20% like this year versus last year. Are they an obvious beneficiary from this? | **Alexander Hacking:** ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ผํฐ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ด์ฝ์ด๊ฐ ํ๋งคํ๋ ํน์ ์ ํ๋ค์ด ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์กฐ์ด์คํธ(joist)์ ๋ฐํฌ(deck) ์ถํ๋์ด ์ฌํด ์ ๋ ๋๋น 20% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์, ์ด ์ ํ๋ค์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ผํฐ ์์์ ๋ช ํํ ์ํ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, Alex, it's really the gambit. So insulated metal panels, joist, grading, decking, fasteners, sprinkler, conduit, the foundations, the rebar and the foundations, the civil side, the sheeting on the outside of the building, the overhead doors from C.H.I., Rytec and so really, it's the full purview. But John, anything else would you add to that? | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, Alex, ์ ๋ง ์ ์ฒด ๋ฒ์๋ฅผ ๋ค๋ฃน๋๋ค. ๋จ์ด ๊ธ์ ํจ๋(insulated metal panels), ์ฅ์ (joist), ๋ฑ๊ธ์ฌ, ๋ฐํน, ํ์ค๋, ์คํ๋งํด๋ฌ, ์ ์ ๊ด, ๊ธฐ์ด ๊ณต์ฌ, ๊ธฐ์ด์ ์ฒ ๊ทผ, ํ ๋ชฉ ๋ถ๋ฌธ, ๊ฑด๋ฌผ ์ธ๋ถ ์ํธ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ C.H.I., Rytec์ ์ค๋ฒํค๋ ๋์ด๊น์ง ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ์ ์ฒด ์์ญ์ ์์ฐ๋ฅด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. John, ์ถ๊ฐํ ๋ด์ฉ ์๋์? |
| John Hollatz: Executive Vice President of Fabricated Construction Products Yes, Alex. On the joist and deck side, we're definitely feeling the benefits of the data center build-out as well as e-commerce. And we're just well positioned with these end-use markets because of our industry-leading capabilities, the breadth of our product offering, our nationwide coverage. Right now, our joist and deck backlogs are about 25% higher than what they were a year ago at this time. They extend well into 2026, and we're optimistic about what the next year is going to bring. | **John Hollatz:** ๋ค, Alex. ์ฅ์ (joist)๊ณผ ๋ฐํฌ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ฑด์ค ํ๋์ ์ ์์๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํํ์ ํ์คํ ์ฒด๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ญ๋, ํญ๋์ ์ ํ ๋ผ์ธ์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋๋ถ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ต์ข ์ฌ์ฉ ์์ฅ์์ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น๋ฅผ ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ฅ์ ๊ณผ ๋ฐํฌ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ฃผ์๊ณ (backlog)๋ ์๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฝ 25% ๋์ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์์ฃผ์๊ณ ๋ 2026๋ ๊น์ง ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ด๋ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๋๊ด์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Bill Peterson from JPMorgan. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ JP๋ชจ๊ฑด์ ๋น ํผํฐ์จ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| William Peterson: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Congrats on the quarter. Maybe to follow up on this data center opportunity, but maybe to contextualize relative to what I think is a larger market, much larger now, which is warehouses, I guess, based off of your backlog, how should we think about square foot growth beyond 2025, maybe from a market perspective as well as your own opportunity? And is there a way you can, I guess, help quantify or provide any anecdotes on how you're gaining share in the market with like Southwest Data Products compared to industry growth averages? Just trying to get more context on this opportunity relative to larger ones such as warehouses. | **William Peterson:** ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ์, ํ์ฌ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํฐ ์์ฅ์ธ ๋ฌผ๋ฅ์ฐฝ๊ณ ์ ๋น๊ตํด์ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์ ์ข ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ท์ฌ์ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ดค์ ๋, 2025๋ ์ดํ ํ๋ฐฉํผํธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๋งํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ์์ฅ ๊ด์ ์์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ณ ๊ท์ฌ์ ๊ธฐํ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ๋ง์ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Southwest Data Products๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ ๊ณ ํ๊ท ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๋๋น ์์ฅ์ ์ ์จ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์๋์ง ์ ๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ค๋ช ํ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์ฌ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๋ฌผ๋ฅ์ฐฝ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ํฐ ๊ธฐํ๋ค๊ณผ ๋น๊ตํด์ ์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ข ๋ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, Bill, let me start with the -- to your point, the larger segment, which is the warehousing. Look, that is probably flat year-over-year and expect it to be about the same in '26. And so again, that peaked, I don't know, '21, '22, where we saw massive build-outs from Amazon, others that were building as fast as they could come. So the shift has come in the last 12, 18 months into the data center side. But again, with that, the energy infrastructure is a big piece of that, that Nucor is, again, tying into. Southwest Data Products enables us to do things in that hot aisle that we weren't able to do prior. But Nucor now has a Nucor warehouse and data systems group that kind of provides an overarching solution set for, again, these major developers. And John, maybe unpack that just a little bit further on how we use that go to market with that. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ๋น. ๋จผ์ ๋ ํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ธ ์ฐฝ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ถํฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋
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์ด์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ ์๋ง์กด์ ๋น๋กฏํ ๊ธฐ์
๋ค์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์์ค์ ๊ตฌ์ถํ์์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋์ ์ง๋ 12๊ฐ์์์ 18๊ฐ์ ์ฌ์ด์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ก์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ค์ํ ์ ์ ์๋์ง ์ธํ๋ผ๊ฐ ํฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ๋ด์ฝ์ด๊ฐ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋์ด ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ฐ์ค์จ์คํธ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ํ๋ก๋์ธ (Southwest Data Products)๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ด์ ์๋ ํ ์ ์์๋ ํซ ์์ผ(hot aisle) ๊ด๋ จ ์์ ๋ค์ ํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ด์ฝ์ด๋ ๋ด์ฝ์ด ์ฐฝ๊ณ ๋ฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์์คํ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ฃผ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์ ์ฒด๋ค์๊ฒ ํฌ๊ด์ ์ธ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์กด, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์์ฅ ์ง์ถ ์ ๋ต์์ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ๋์ง ๋ง์ด์ฃ . |
| John Hollatz: Executive Vice President of Fabricated Construction Products Yes, Bill, when you think about a data center, and it's on our Slide 7 in our presentation, all of the different products that Nucor supplies into that market. And we're the only company that can supply all of those products. Many of our competitors can supply one of them. We have the ability to supply all and we work directly with a lot of these companies to guarantee the surety of their supply to meet their deliveries to get these facilities operational on time. It's a big advantage that we have with that entire portfolio of products. In addition to that, having redundancy in our portfolio, we mentioned we've converted a couple of facilities over the last several months to help the build-out of these data centers because we see that market being so hot moving into the coming years. | **John Hollatz:** ๋ค, Bill, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ๋ฅผ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด์๋ฉด, ๋ฐํ์๋ฃ ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 7์ ๋์ ์๋ฏ์ด Nucor๊ฐ ํด๋น ์์ฅ์ ๊ณต๊ธํ๋ ๋ค์ํ ์ ํ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์ ํ์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์๋ ํ์ฌ๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ ์ผํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด ๊ทธ ์ค ํ๋๋ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ค ๊ธฐ์
๋ค์์ ์ง์ ํ๋ ฅํ์ฌ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ํ์ค์ฑ์ ๋ณด์ฅํ๊ณ , ๋ฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ง์ถฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ค๋ค์ด ์ ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ์ฒด ์ ํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ ๊ฒ์ด ์ ํฌ์ ํฐ ๊ฐ์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ํด, ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ง๋ ๋ช ๊ฐ์๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์์ค์ ์ ํํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ์ง์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ฒ์ธ๋ฐ, ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ด ์์ฅ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋จ๊ฑฐ์ธ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Stephen Laxton: CFO, Treasurer & Executive VP Bill, this is Steve. I'd like to just add one thing that's implicit in the questions that you and Alex both ask is a commentary on the flexibility of Nucor's overall portfolio. And so as you see different markets get strong, Nucor has excelled over the years at winning in a variety of different ways. And right now, you're focused in on data centers, and we can capture, as John and Leon described, unprecedented. We're unparalleled with anyone in the space in the ability to gain in that area. But it's not lost on us and shouldn't be on you that Nucor has won at various times when different markets have been strong because of the product diversity and the flexibility that we have in supplying the market. | **Stephen Laxton:** ๋น, ์ ๋ ์คํฐ๋ธ์
๋๋ค. ๋น์ ๊ณผ ์๋ ์ค๊ฐ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ด์ฌ๋ ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ถ์ด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ก Nucor์ ์ ์ฒด ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ ๋ํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ค์ํ ์์ฅ์ด ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๋, Nucor๋ ์๋
๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์น๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ ๋ฐ ํ์ํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ๋น์ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ๊ณ์๋๋ฐ, ์กด๊ณผ ๋ ์จ์ด ์ค๋ช
ํ๋ฏ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ ๋ถ์ผ์์ ์ ๋ก ์๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฒฌ์ค ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐ์
์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ง ์๊ณ ์๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ ๊ฐ๊ณผํด์๋ ์ ๋ ์ ์, Nucor๊ฐ ๋ค์ํ ์๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ฅ์ด ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๋๋ง๋ค ์น๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ ํ ์ ํ ๋ค์์ฑ๊ณผ ์์ฅ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ ๋๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. |
| William Peterson: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division No, I appreciate that color. I guess maybe just to follow-up, maybe I missed or I didn't hear it, but you said data center flat for '26. Is there a sense for how we should think about the data center growth next year? And then I have a follow-up question. | **William Peterson:** ์๋์, ๊ทธ ์ค๋ช ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก, ์ ๊ฐ ๋์ณค๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ชป ๋ค์์ ์๋ ์๋๋ฐ, 26๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ๊ฐ ๋ณดํฉ์ธ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๋ด๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ํ๋ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes. Sorry, Bill. No, warehouse -- traditional warehouse would be flat. Data centers are up double-digit growth for the next 5 to 6 years is what every major category where we're looking at is tracking. So I think in my prepared comments, that I opened with, that the forecast is for 60 million square feet of capacity in 2026. So it's an incredibly fast-growing segment. So not flat on the data center side. | **Leon Topalian:** ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ๋น. ์๋์, ์ ํต์ ์ธ ์ฐฝ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ณดํฉ์ธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ๋ ํฅํ 5~6๋ ๊ฐ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ง๋๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฃผ์ ์นดํ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋๋ฐ์ธ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, 2026๋ ์๋ 6์ฒ๋ง ํ๋ฐฉํผํธ์ ์ฉ๋์ด ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ ๋ณดํฉ์ธ๊ฐ ์๋๋๋ค. |
| William Peterson: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Yes. Well, understood. On my second question, so scrap cost was down, but conversion costs were up. I guess can you speak to what contributed to the latter? Is this related to the new mill ramps? Or is there something else there? And I guess, more importantly, how should we think about this trend into the fourth quarter? | **William Peterson:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ์, ์คํฌ๋ฉ ๋น์ฉ์ ๊ฐ์ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํ ๋น์ฉ(conversion cost)์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ์์ธ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์๋ก์ด ๊ณต์ฅ ๊ฐ๋๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ธ๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ธ์ด ์๋์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ์ค์ํ๊ฒ๋, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ถ์ธ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๋งํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
| Chief Operating Officer: Thanks, Bill. This is Dave Sumoski. So although our cost quarter-over-quarter were up, cost year-over-year are down 5%. But specifically, the items affecting the quarter-over-quarter results are slab costs for CSI. Some of our consumables was up such as refractory and labor was slightly up due to some significant planned outages in the quarter. | **Chief Operating Officer:** ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ด๋ธ ์๋ชจ์คํค์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น๋ก๋ ๋น์ฉ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ง๋ง, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น๋ก๋ 5% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ค์ ์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ํญ๋ชฉ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, CSI์ ์ฌ๋๋ธ ๋น์ฉ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ดํ๋ฌผ(refractory) ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ถ ์๋ชจํ ๋น์ฉ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณํ๋ ์ฃผ์ ์ ๋น์์ ๋ค๋ก ์ธํด ์ธ๊ฑด๋น๊ฐ ์ํญ ์์นํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Lawson Winder from Bank of America. | **Operator:** [์๋ด ์ฌํญ] ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฑ ํฌ์ค๋ธ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด์ Lawson Winder๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Lawson Winder: BofA Securities, Research Division I appreciate the update today. Could I ask about the guide, which, I mean, in the guidance for Q4, you pointed to lower volumes just because of fewer shipping days. I mean, that all makes sense. But you also suggested there was some lower realized cheap pricing factored in. Yesterday, Nucor's CSP was $10 higher. I mean, was that factored in? I mean, we also saw a competitor raise their pricing by $50 yesterday. How should we think about the movement we've just seen very recently in that? | **Lawson Winder:** ์ค๋ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์, ์ถํ์ผ์ ๊ฐ์๋ก ์ธํ ๋ฌผ๋ ๊ฐ์๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ดํด๊ฐ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์คํ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ํ๋ฝ๋ ๋ฐ์ํ์ จ๋ค๊ณ ํ์ จ์์์. ์ด์ Nucor์ CSP๊ฐ 10๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ๋๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ฐ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ ์ค ํ ๊ณณ์ด ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ 50๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์. ์ต๊ทผ์ ๋ํ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์์ง์์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, Lawson. I appreciate the question. And most of Nucor's sheet deliveries are based on contracts. So while you see the moves today, what I would tell you is you're seeing that typical seasonality and a softer Q2 flow through the order book, which is our projection for Q4 to see lower realized pricing. But again, with the current price increases in that group, we anticipate Q1 will be -- we'll certainly realize those higher pricing. So it takes some time, right, to flow through that. But on the positive side, there's two factors I'd point out in terms of how quickly that can move through. One is the service center inventory side of things is pretty very -- well, seasonally low in terms of that overall picture, but also internally to Nucor, we are not sitting on high volumes of inventory at our mills. So it's going to enable us a much faster realization of that pricing you just mentioned. So again, those two factors, we'll see that move through the order books into the balance sheet for Q1. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, Lawson. ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. Nucor์ ํ์ฌ(sheet) ์ธ๋ ๋ฌผ๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ํ์ฌ ์์ฅ ์์ง์์ ๋ณด์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์ ์ ํ์ ์ธ ๊ณ์ ์ฑ๊ณผ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ ์ฝํ ํ๋ฆ์ด ์์ฃผ ์๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํตํด ๋ฐ์๋๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์คํ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋ฎ์์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ ์ด์ ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํด๋น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ฌ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ธ์์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋ถ๋ช
ํ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ์คํํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ์๋๋ ๋ฐ๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ข ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ์๋ ์ ์๋์ง์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋๋ ์๋น์ค์ผํฐ ์ฌ๊ณ ์ธก๋ฉด์ธ๋ฐ, ์ ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ผ๋ก ๋ดค์ ๋ ๊ณ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ Nucor ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ๋์ ์์ค์ ์ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ธ์๋ถ์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์คํํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ฅ๋ถ๋ฅผ ํตํด 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ํ์ ๋ฐ์๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Lawson Winder: BofA Securities, Research Division Fantastic. And can I ask on acquisition opportunities? When you look at the relevant acquisition set for Nucor, how would you characterize that in terms of product and region or segment upstream versus downstream? I appreciate any thoughts. | **Lawson Winder:** ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. Nucor์ ์ธ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ณผ ๋, ์ ํ๊ณผ ์ง์ญ ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์๋ฅ์ ํ๋ฅ ์ค ์ด๋ ์ชฝ์ ๋ ๊ด์ฌ์ด ์๋์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ ์ ํฌ๋ ํญ์ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ ๋ต์ ์ธ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ์ ๊ธฐ์กด ์ ํ ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ณด์ํ๊ฑฐ๋ ํ์ฅํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ์ ํนํ ๊ด์ฌ์ด ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ฅ ์ชฝ์์๋ ๊ณ ๋ถ๊ฐ๊ฐ์น ์ ํ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ํ๋ํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ์ฃผ์ํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์, ์๋ฅ ์ชฝ์์๋ ์์์ฌ ํ๋ณด์ ๋น์ฉ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐํํ ์ ์๋ ์์ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง์ญ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์์ฅ์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ํต์ฌ์ด์ง๋ง, ์ ์ ํ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง์ญ๋ ์ด๋ ค์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ์ Nucor์ ๋ฌธํ์ ์ ๋ง๊ณ , ์ ํฌ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ถฉ์กฑํ๋ฉฐ, ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฃผ์ฃผ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ธ์์ฌ์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ธ์๋ฅผ ์ํ ์ธ์๋ ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ต์ ์ ํฉ์ฑ๊ณผ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ํ๋น์ฑ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ํ๋ณด๋์ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, Lawson, look, broadly, here's how I would tell you, our mission statement is very simple, right, [ in words ] -- we launched in January 1, 2020. It's to Grow The Core, Expand Beyond and Live Our Culture. The core is just that, the core steelmaking capabilities, you're seeing that with the start-ups of Lexington's micro mill in North Carolina, the melt shop in Kingman, Arizona, the ramping up and then pre-start-up at Crawfordsville's galv line, Berkeley next year, the start-up of our first towers and structures facility in Alabama, the next two that will be next year. And then that will ultimately culminate with the start-up of the largest investment in Nucor's history in Mason County, West Virginia, with the most state-of-the-art sheet mill that's going to offer a capability set unparalleled in our industry. And so we're going to have the breadth of capabilities to provide our customers the steel they need today as well as what they're going to need for tomorrow. So that's the core. As we think about Expand Beyond, it sits in the C.H.I, Rytec, Southwest Data Products, our Summit, which is the first acquisition in the towers and structures we made. The insulated metal panels group that continues to bring a really differentiated product mix to the Nucor offering. So as we look to the future now is -- again, we don't anticipate building any more greenfield facilities, at least in the near term. That capital is now going to get deployed in the adjacent space as well. Again, right more -- we'll leave you that ambiguous. If we think a little bit more about, well, where is that going to go? It's going to go on the mega trends that we're seeing in the U.S. economy like towers and structure. So like energy, energy infrastructure, the data center community. So what are the things that we're not providing or don't provide today that, again, hit a few boxes, right? So as we look for targets, it's got to be like-minded culturally that fits who we are. It's going to be a converter model that we bring in terms of our competencies to that acquisition. Three, it's going to be low capital intensity. And four, we're going to look for 4 and 5 high margins. And fifth, a sort of countercyclical to the traditional cyclicality of steel. So we want something that isn't as affected by the true steel cycles that we see over, again, the last 60 years that we've been in this business. And again, C.H.I., Rytec, IMP all provide a much more stable earnings platform, growth throughout all the sectors and highs and lows in both the financial crisis, COVID and whatnot. They have -- their return profiles are incredibly stable. And so again, ultimately, our goal is to stabilize Nucor's overall earnings to provide higher highs and higher lows. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, Lawson, ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ ๋ฏธ์
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์์ญ ํ์ฅ(Expand Beyond)', ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ '๊ธฐ์
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ธ์ค์บ๋กค๋ผ์ด๋์ฃผ ๋ ์ฑํด์ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ก ๋ฐ(micro mill) ๊ฐ๋, ์ ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋์ฃผ ํน๋งจ์ ์ฉํด ๊ณต์ฅ(melt shop) ๊ฐ๋, ํฌ๋กํฌ์ฆ๋น์ ์์ฐ๋๊ธ ๋ผ์ธ(galv line) ์ฆ์ค ๋ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ์ค๋น, ๋ด๋
๋ฒํด๋ฆฌ ํ๋ก์ ํธ, ์จ๋ผ๋ฐฐ๋ง์ฃผ ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ํ์ ๋ฐ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฌผ ์์ค ๊ฐ๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ด๋
์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๋ ๊ณณ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ๋๋ ์์ ์ธ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ํตํด ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ด์ฝ์ด ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ต๋ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ํฌ์์ธ ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์์ฃผ ๋ฉ์ด์จ ์นด์ดํฐ์ ์ต์ฒจ๋จ ํ์ฌ ๊ณต์ฅ ๊ฐ๋์ผ๋ก ์ ์ ์ ์ฐ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ด ๊ณต์ฅ์ ์
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๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํต์ฌ ์ฌ์
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๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ ํ์ฅ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, C.H.I, Rytec, Southwest Data Products, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ ๋ฐ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฌผ ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ฒซ ์ธ์ ๊ฑด์ธ Summit์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋จ์ด ๊ธ์ ํจ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฃน๋ ๋ด์ฝ์ด์ ์ ํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์ ๋ง ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ์ ํ ๋ฏน์ค๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฏธ๋๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ค๋ณผ ๋, ์ ์ด๋ ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ ์ด์ ์ ๊ท ์ค๋น(greenfield facilities)๋ฅผ ๊ฑด์คํ ๊ณํ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๊ทธ ์๋ณธ์ ์ธ์ ๋ถ์ผ์๋ ํฌ์ ๋ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ชจํธํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ฆฌ์ค ์ ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋์ ํฌ์ ๋ ์ง ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ๋ฉ๊ฐํธ๋ ๋๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์์ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฌผ, ์๋์ง, ์๋์ง ์ธํ๋ผ, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ์ผ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณณ๋ค์ด์ฃ . ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๋ ์์ญ ์ค์์ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์กฐ๊ฑด์ ์ถฉ์กฑํ๋ ๊ณณ์ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ธ์ ๋์์ ๋ฌผ์ํ ๋ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋ฌธํ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ง๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ญ๋์ ํ์ฉํด์ ์ปจ๋ฒํฐ ๋ชจ๋ธ(converter model)์ ์ ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๊ณณ์ด์ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์งธ, ์๋ณธ์ง์ฝ๋(capital intensity)๊ฐ ๋ฎ์์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ท์งธ์ ๋ค์ฏ์งธ๋ก๋ ๋์ ๋ง์ง์ ์ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ฏ์งธ๋ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ดํด๊ณผ ์ญ์ํ์ (countercyclical) ํน์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 60๋ ๊ฐ ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ ํด์ค๋ฉด์ ๊ฒฝํํ ์ง์ ํ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ดํด์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ ๋ฐ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ํฉ๋๋ค. C.H.I., Rytec, IMP ๋ชจ๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ์์ ์ ์ธ ์์ต ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธ์ต์๊ธฐ๋ ์ฝ๋ก๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ํฉ์์๋ ๋์ ๊ตญ๋ฉด๊ณผ ๋ฎ์ ๊ตญ๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋์์ ์์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค์ ์์ต ํ๋กํ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ Nucor์ ์ ์ฒด ์์ต์ ์์ ํ์์ผ์ ๋ ๋์ ๊ณ ์ ๊ณผ ๋ ๋์ ์ ์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Timna Tanners from Wells Fargo. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wells Fargo์ Timna Tanners๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Timna Tanners: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division I wanted to ask about my home state, that is Washington and what's happening in Seattle. So I saw the announcement of not replacing the existing mill. Can you just elaborate on that decision? Does that -- you said you could supply it from other mills. But with imports to the West Coast down, I'm assuming like is there enough supply on the West Coast? Can you supply it from Kingman? And are you just not replacing the existing mill? Or are you just not shutting it down? | **Timna Tanners:** Wells Fargo Securities ์์์ด๊ณ , ์ ๊ณ ํฅ์ธ ์์ฑํด์ฃผ, ํนํ ์์ ํ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณต์ฅ์ ๋์ฒดํ์ง ์๊ธฐ๋ก ํ ๋ฐํ๋ฅผ ๋ดค๋๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ณต์ฅ๋ค์์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์๋ถ ํด์์ผ๋ก์ ์์ ์ด ๊ฐ์ํ ์ํฉ์์ ์๋ถ ํด์์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๊ณต๊ธ์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฐ์? ํน๋งจ ๊ณต์ฅ์์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์๋์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณต์ฅ์ ๋์ฒดํ์ง ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์, ์๋๋ฉด ํ์ํ์ง ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes. Look, you kind of answered the question within that question as well, Timna. So thank you for it. Look, we have a great relationship with the city of Seattle and our team out there does an amazing job connecting with our community, being in that community and welcoming that committee with open arms and how we take care of our safety, the environmental, the sustainability side. So they do a really, really nice job. But it is as we step back and look at our prudent capital allocation, where our dollar's best spent. And where is the best returns on those dollars going to be? With the investment of the melt shop in Kingman, Arizona, our Utah facility and the breadth and exposure of our Seattle mill, we are adequately covered for the Western side of the United States as well as Western Canada. So again, as we step back to really evaluate that, we feel really good about where the mill is and its capability set in Seattle, but couple that with the addition of Kingman's melt shop, and we think we've got a very adequate coverage there. So we're going to use those dollars elsewhere to think about growth. And again, how do we not just meet our cost of capital, but double our cost of capital? How do we make sure that we're generating EVA for our shareholders for the long term? And that's where we're going to put that. And again, if we don't have that home, as you've seen over the course of the years and following us, Timna, this year, we're at 72% return of our net earnings back to our shareholders and dividends or share buybacks, and that will continue. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธ ์์ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ต์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์๋ค์, Timna. ๊ทธ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์์ ํ์์๋ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ํ์ง ํ์ด ์ง์ญ์ฌํ์ ์ํตํ๊ณ ๊ต๋ฅํ๋ฉฐ ์์ , ํ๊ฒฝ, ์ง์๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ด๋ฆฌํ๋์ง ๋ฑ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ฉด์์ ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ์ผ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ํ์ง ํ์ ์ ๋ง ๋๋จํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํ ๊ฑธ์ ๋ฌผ๋ฌ์์ ์ ์คํ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์๋ณธ์ด ์ด๋์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ ์ฐ์ด๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ ์๋ณธ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์์ต์ ์ด๋์ ์ป์ ์ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋์ฃผ ํน๋งจ์ ์ฉํด ๊ณต์ฅ ํฌ์์ ์ ํ ์์ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ ํ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ํญ๋์ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋ถ์ ์บ๋๋ค ์๋ถ ์ง์ญ์ ๋ํ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ํ๋ณด๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ ํ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ์์น์ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ํน๋งจ ์ฉํด ๊ณต์ฅ๊น์ง ์ถ๊ฐ๋๋ฉด์ ํด๋น ์ง์ญ์ ๋ํ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ๋ค๊ณ ํ๋จํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ์๊ธ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์ ํ์ฉํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ชจ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋จ์ํ ์๋ณธ๋น์ฉ(cost of capital)์ ์ถฉ์กฑํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ, ์๋ณธ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ชฉํ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์ ์ํ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ฐ๊ฐ์น(EVA)๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ๋ ๊ฒ, ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ทธ๊ณณ์ ํฌ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ ์ ํ ํฌ์์ฒ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์ง ๋ชปํ๋ค๋ฉด, Timna ๋๊ป์ ์๋ ๊ฐ ์ ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ผ๋ณด์๋ฉด์ ์์๋ค์ํผ, ์ฌํด ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ด์ต(net earnings)์ 72%๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ด๋ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ํตํด ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Timna Tanners: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Great. That's my next question. But just to clarify, that Seattle mill keeps operating. You're just not replacing it with the micro mill, is that right? | **Timna Tanners:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ํ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ๊ณ์ ์ด์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋จ์ง ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ก ๋ฐ(micro mill)๋ก ๊ต์ฒดํ์ง ์๋๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
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| Timna Tanners: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Okay, super. So along the lines of the shareholder returns, your third quarter buybacks at $100 million is the smallest you've had, I think, since 2020 when you didn't have any buybacks. Is that correct? And if so, is that a statement of anything? Do you have other uses of capital? Anything you can elaborate on there? | **Timna Tanners:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ๊ท๋ชจ 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ์ ํ ํ์ง ์์๋ 2020๋ ์ดํ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์์ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํน๋ณํ ์๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์๋์ง ์ง๋ฌธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๋ค๋ฅธ ์๋ณธ ํ์ฉ ๊ณํ์ด ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, I'll let Steve answer that. But I would remind you of the $13 billion that we've returned back to our shareholders over the last five years, but I think you're accurate. But Steve? | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ์คํฐ๋ธ๊ฐ ๋ต๋ณํ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ง๋ 5๋ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ํ 130์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์๊ธฐ์์ผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ ํํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์คํฐ๋ธ? |
| Stephen Laxton: CFO, Treasurer & Executive VP Yes. Hey Timna, you're correct. That is the lowest quarterly return we've had, but we remain committed to giving back at least 40% of our earnings every year. We don't necessarily do that every quarter. And so over the course of the year, we're well ahead of that mark. And as Leon alluded to, over the last five years, we've given back around 60%. Just under 60% of the earnings. So we've continued that discipline of balancing investment with our capital and growing the company while we also maintain strong liquidity and a strong balance sheet position. We've actually improved that even getting the upgrade from Moody's this past September and give meaningful returns. So those three elements remain in place, and that's not going to change going forward. So I wouldn't get too focused in on the quarter -- quarterly number. I'd just remind you that we remain very mindful and intentional about the management of those three pillars of our capital allocation framework. | **Stephen Laxton:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. Timna, ๋ง์ํ์ ๋๋ก ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ฎ์ ํ์์จ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ๋งค๋
์ต์ 40%์ ์ด์ต์ ์ฃผ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ํ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ์ฝ์์ ์งํค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ๋ฐ๋์ ์ ์ฉ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ์น๋ฅผ ํจ์ฌ ์ํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Leon์ด ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ง๋ 5๋
๊ฐ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฝ 60%, ์ ํํ๋ 60% ๋ฐ๋ก ์๋ ์์ค์ ์ด์ต์ ํ์ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋ณธ ํฌ์์ ํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ท ํ์ ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์๋, ๋์์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ๋์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ์ง์ผ๋๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ง๋ 9์ ๋ฌด๋์ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ ์ฉ๋ฑ๊ธ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฐ์ผ๋ฉด์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๊ฑด์ ์ฑ์ ๋์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ , ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์์ค์ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ์๋ ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ธ ๊ฐ์ง ํต์ฌ ์์๋ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ณํจ์์ด ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ ์์น์ ๋๋ฌด ์ง์คํ์ง ์์ผ์ จ์ผ๋ฉด ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ํ๋ ์์ํฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ง ํต์ฌ ์ถ์ ๊ด๋ฆฌํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์คํ๊ณ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Phil Gibbs from KeyBanc. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ KeyBanc์ Phil Gibbs๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Philip Gibbs: KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division Just wondering if you could give us the state of the West Virginia sheet investment in terms of where you are in the spending and your expected start-up time frame? | **Philip Gibbs:** KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์ ์ํธ ํฌ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ํ์ฌ ์ง์ถ ์งํ ์ํฉ๊ณผ ์์ ๊ฐ๋ ์์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ์ง์? |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, certainly, Phil, I'll ask Noah Hanners, our EVP of our sheet group, to give you a more detailed update. Noah? | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค, Phil. ์ ํฌ ์ํธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ EVP์ธ Noah Hanners์๊ฒ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Noah? |
| Noah Hanners: Executive Vice President of Sheet Products Yes. Thanks for the question, Phil. It gives me a good opportunity to congratulate, recognize the team on the progress there. I'd tell you, we're at about 75% on the build. And in terms of capital spending, we're about to that same point now. Most of the 25% we have remaining remains in the labor category. So if you go there today, it looks like a steel mill. And so we have the world's best steelmaking team, and you see the foundation of it starting there with that team in West Virginia. We have done an awesome job, that West Virginia team has done an awesome job of bringing in some of the most talented people from across our sheet group and from across Nucor to lead that project. We've done a great job of hiring and experience and I get often asked about like how do you feel about this investment and we could not be more excited because we're taking this awesome team, and we're giving them the world's best equipment, like they're going to have assets, capabilities there that are the best in our market. And then we are turning them loose in a region where we've been underserved, but where we have really strong customer demand. When you stack those things up, we're going to be extremely successful with that investment, and we're excited about what the future brings for West Virginia. | **Noah Hanners:** ๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Phil. ํ์ ์ง์ ์ํฉ์ ์ถํํ๊ณ ์ธ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ์ข์ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์. ํ์ฌ ๊ฑด์ค์ ์ฝ 75% ์๋ฃ๋์๊ณ , ์๋ณธ ์ง์ถ(capital spending) ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ๋น์ทํ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ๋จ์ 25% ์ค ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ธ๋ ฅ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ํ์ฅ์ ๊ฐ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ ์ฒ ์์ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ธ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์ ์ฒ ํ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์์ ๊ทธ ํ๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ด ์์๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์ ํ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์ฌ ๊ทธ๋ฃน(sheet group) ์ ์ฒด์ ๋ด์ฝ์ด ์ ์ฌ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ฐ์ด๋ ์ธ์ฌ๋ค์ ์์ ํ์ฌ ์ด ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ฅผ ์ด๋๋๋ก ํ๋ ๋ฐ ํ์ํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒฝํ ์๋ ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ฑ์ฉ์์ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ณ , ์ด ํฌ์์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๋์ง ์์ฃผ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋๋ฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ณด๋ค ๋ ๊ธฐ๋๋ ์๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ํ๋ฅญํ ํ์๊ฒ ์ธ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์ฅ๋น๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ฅ์์ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์์ฐ๊ณผ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋์ ์๋น์ค๊ฐ ๋ถ์กฑํ์ง๋ง ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐํ ์ง์ญ์์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์ญ๋์ ๋ง์๊ป ๋ฐํํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์์๋ค์ ์ข ํฉํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ํฌ์๋ก ์์ฒญ๋ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์์ ๋ฏธ๋๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ฌ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Philip Gibbs: KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division And then just a question for Steve. On the tax side, is there a distinct difference between your cash tax rate and your book tax rate for '25 and '26, given the recent changes in tax legislation? | **Philip Gibbs:** Prompt: 150 tokens Response tokens will be counted after generation KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division ์ธก์์ Steve์๊ฒ ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ธ๊ธ ๊ด๋ จํด์์, ์ต๊ทผ ์ธ๋ฒ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ์ ๋ 2025๋ ๊ณผ 2026๋ ์ ํ๊ธ ์ธ์จ(cash tax rate)๊ณผ ์ฅ๋ถ ์ธ์จ(book tax rate) ๊ฐ์ ๋๋ ทํ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ ์์๊น์? |
| Stephen Laxton: CFO, Treasurer & Executive VP No. Surprisingly, Phil, not necessarily because of the way that legislation was written, it accelerates things that start after legislation. Most of our spend has already been started. So to give you a sense and a feel for that, the deferred tax benefits -- the cash flow benefits this year in '25 will be around $100 million. And when you look out into '26, that gets -- it will be smaller because of the nature of the bill. So the One Big Beautiful Bill had relatively modest impact for us on that. It does accelerate some of the R&D credits a little bit. That's where some of the gains coming from. But in terms of the capital spending, maybe not as pronounced as you might expect given the dollars we're spending in capital. | **Stephen Laxton:** ์๋์. ํ, ๋๋๊ฒ๋ ๋ฒ์์ด ์์ฑ๋ ๋ฐฉ์ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ฒ์์ ์ ๋ฒ ์ดํ์ ์์๋๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์ํํ๋๋ฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง์ถ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด๋ฏธ ์์๋ ์ํ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ ์ก์ผ์ค ์ ์๋๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด์ฐ๋ฒ์ธ์ธ ํํ, ์ฆ ์ฌํด 2025๋ ์ ํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ํํ์ ์ฝ 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ๋๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 2026๋ ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฒ์์ ํน์ฑ์ ๊ทธ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ๋ ์์์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ฅธ๋ฐ 'One Big Beautiful Bill'์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ์ํฅ์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ธ์ก๊ณต์ ๋ฅผ ์ผ๋ถ ๊ฐ์ํํ๋ ํจ๊ณผ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ์ผ๋ถ ์ด์ต์ด ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด๊ณ ์. ํ์ง๋ง ์๋ณธ์ง์ถ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํฌ์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ์๋ณธ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ์ ๋ ์์ํ์ จ์ ๋งํผ ๋๋๋ฌ์ง ํจ๊ณผ๋ ์๋ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Katja Jancic from BMO Capital. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ BMO ์บํผํ์ Katja Jancic์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Katja Jancic: BMO Capital Markets Equity Research Starting on the start-up costs, given that you have a couple of projects now that are ramping up, how should we think about these costs over the next few quarters? | **Katja Jancic:** ํ์ฌ ์ฌ๋ฌ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๊ฐ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ์ํฉ์์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋น์ฉ(start-up costs)์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์, ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์์ํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
| Stephen Laxton: CFO, Treasurer & Executive VP Katja, this is Steve. We would expect over the next quarter them to be in line with the third quarter. And give or take, they're going to be in that range into the first quarter as well. So call it $100 million to $110 million a quarter going forward for the next couple of quarters. | **Stephen Laxton:** ์นด์ฑ , ์คํฐ๋ธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋น์ทํ ์์ค์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง๋ ๋๋ต ๊ทธ ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์์ ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋น ์ฝ 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 1์ต 1์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ๋๋ก ๋ณด์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| Katja Jancic: BMO Capital Markets Equity Research And then I think some of the margin compression in the mill segment was tied to the slabs you purchased for the CSI operations. If I'm not mistaken, that mostly comes from Brazil. Is that correct? And if so, why not use more of the material produced internally? | **Katja Jancic:** BMO ์บํผํธ ๋ง์ผ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ง ๋ต๋ณ์ ๋ฒ์ญํด ๋๋ ค์ผ ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ ๊ณตํ์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒ ์(mill) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ง์ง ์๋ฐ ์ผ๋ถ๊ฐ CSI ์ด์์ ์ํด ๊ตฌ๋งคํ ์ฌ๋ผ๋ธ์ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋๋ฐ, ์ ๊ฐ ์๊ธฐ๋ก๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ ๋ธ๋ผ์ง์์ ๋ค์ด์ค๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ต๋๊น? ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด, ์ ๋ด๋ถ์์ ์์ฐ๋ ์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ง์ด ์ฌ์ฉํ์ง ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ์ด ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํ ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ๋ต๋ณ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ฒ์ญํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Noah Hanners: Executive Vice President of Sheet Products Katja, this is Noah. I'll take that. Yes, mostly from Brazil, and we have been mostly slab served there this year, but we have a team that looks at the decision about whether to supply with internal substrates, so coils from our own mills like Gallatin or Crawfordsville more to buy slabs. Most of this year, it's made the most economic sense to buy slab and roll it there through our hot mill, but there have been months where we supplied a lot more coil. And I would tell you, over the course of this year, we've leaned into more of our own internal substrate. So that team will continue to look at what makes the most economic sense and we'll go that way. | **Noah Hanners:** ๋ค, ์ฃผ๋ก ๋ธ๋ผ์ง์์ ๋ค์ด์ค๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ ์ฌ๋ฉ์ผ๋ก ๊ณต๊ธํด์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ด๋ถ ๊ธฐ์ฌ(substrate)๋ก ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ง, ์ฆ ๊ฐค๋ฌํด(Gallatin)์ด๋ ํฌ๋กํฌ์ฆ๋น(Crawfordsville) ๊ฐ์ ์์ฒด ๊ณต์ฅ์ ์ฝ์ผ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ์ง ์๋๋ฉด ์ฌ๋ฉ์ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ ์ ๋ดํ์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์์ ์ฌ๋ฉ์ ๊ตฌ๋งคํด์ ํ์ง ์ด์ฐ ๊ณต์ฅ์์ ์์ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ผ๋ถ ์์๋ ์ฝ์ผ์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๊ณต๊ธํ๊ธฐ๋ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ฌํด ๋ค์ด ์์ฒด ๋ด๋ถ ๊ธฐ์ฌ ์ฌ์ฉ์ ์ ์ฐจ ๋๋ ค์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด ํ์ด ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ ๊ฒํ ํ๋ฉด์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ผ๋ก ์งํํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Andrew Jones from UBS. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ UBS์ Andrew Jones๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Andrew Jones: UBS Investment Bank, Research Division I've got a couple of questions on price hikes. And first of all, the MBQ aborted hike from some of your peers. It sounds from the commentary like you didn't support it. Curious on reasons there. And then secondly, on plates, curious how you're seeing the market at the moment. Obviously, we've had some relief on the import side or we should have done, and it doesn't seem like the Canada carve-out is coming anytime soon. So I'm curious how you're sort of thinking about pricing and the state of the market in the coming months in plate given that sort of tighter supply side? | **Andrew Jones:** ๋จผ์ MBQ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ธ์ ์๋์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋
ผํ์ ๋ค์ด๋ณด๋ ๊ท์ฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง์งํ์ง ์์ผ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ํํ ์์ฅ์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ฅ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์ํ๊ฐ ์์๊ณ , ์บ๋๋ค ๊ด์ธ ๋ฉด์ ๋ ๋น๋ถ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง์ง ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณต๊ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์ ํ์ดํธํ ์ํฉ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ํฅํ ๋ช ๊ฐ์๊ฐ ํํ ์์ฅ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ๊ณผ ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๋งํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Okay. Andrew, we'll start off with the bar group. I'll ask Randy to just give you an update on your questions there, and then we'll kick it to Brad on plate. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, Andrew. ๋จผ์ ๋ด๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ฃน๋ถํฐ ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Randy์๊ฒ ๊ด๋ จ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ค์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ค์ Brad์๊ฒ ํ์ฌ ๊ด๋ จ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋๊ธฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Randy Spicer: Executive Vice President of Bar & Rebar Fabrication Products Yes. Andy, thank you for the question. Certainly, we're not going to comment on specific pricing actions. But what I can tell you is that the momentum across our bar products, it remains very strong. We're seeing robust order entry across all regions and key end markets. And as kind of been mentioned, it's driven by infrastructure projects, chip plants, warehouses and data centers. And that strength is being amplified by the continued growth of our downstream businesses, Nucor Rebar Fab, Vulcraft and so forth. So it's also worth noting we have implemented and realized meaningful price increases in merchant bar throughout 2025, supported by our multiyear high backlogs and extended lead times. So all of that gives us confidence as we move through Q4 and into 2026 that the market is strong and ready for us to continue in that space. | **Randy Spicer:** ๋ค, Andy, ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์กฐ์น์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋น์ฌ ๋ด๊ฐ ์ ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ
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์์ฅ์์ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ์์ฃผ ํ๋ฆ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ธ๊ธ๋ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ด๋ ์ธํ๋ผ ํ๋ก์ ํธ, ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ๊ณต์ฅ, ๋ฌผ๋ฅ์ฐฝ๊ณ , ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฑ์ ์ํด ์ฃผ๋๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ Nucor Rebar Fab, Vulcraft ๋ฑ ๋น์ฌ ๋ค์ด์คํธ๋ฆผ ์ฌ์
์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ผ๋ก ๋์ฑ ์ฆํญ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ์ ์ 2025๋
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๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์๋
๊ฐ ๋์ ์์ค์ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ์ ์ฐ์ฅ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ํ์์ ์ํด ๋ท๋ฐ์นจ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ฉ ํ ํฐ: ์ฝ 150 ๋จ์ ์์ฐ: 199,850 ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์์๋ค์ด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ 2026๋ ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ๋ฉด์ ์์ฅ์ด ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํด๋น ๋ถ์ผ์์ ๊ณ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ค๋น๊ฐ ๋์ด ์๋ค๋ ํ์ ์ ์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board | **Leon Topalian:** The user is asking me to translate content, but they've only provided a title "President, CEO & Chairman of the Board" without any actual spoken content to translate. According to my instructions: 1. I should NOT include speaker names in translation - only translate spoken content 2. This appears to be just a title/position, not actual spoken content from a Q&A session Since there's no actual spoken content provided, I should ask for the actual content that needs to be translated. ๋ฒ์ญํ ์ค์ ๋ฐ์ธ ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์ ๊ณต๋์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. "President, CEO & Chairman of the Board"๋ ์งํจ์ผ ๋ฟ์ ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ๋ต๋ณ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ฒ์ญํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Brad Ford: Executive Vice President of Plate & Structural Products Yes. And I'm happy to comment on the plate side. Plate market overall this year has been pretty good. ADC based on the last data we got is trending up around 15% year-over-year, and we're starting to see the impact to tariffs on imports, right? Imports were pretty -- were up a little bit in the beginning of the year, but have come down pretty significantly over the last couple of months. Similar pockets of strength in plate that you heard from Randy and Leon and Steve around energy, both traditional and renewable, infrastructure. Our bridge business has been very strong this year and then on the nonres construction side. As we sit today, our backlog is 58% higher at the end of Q3 than we ended Q3 of last year. So we're pretty optimistic about where -- about where the plate market is going. | **Brad Ford:** ๋ค, ํ๋ ์ดํธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ํ๋ ์ดํธ ์์ฅ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฝค ์ข์์ต๋๋ค. ์ต๊ทผ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ADC๋ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ฝ 15% ์์น ์ถ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์์ ํ์ ๋ํ ๊ด์ธ ์ํฅ์ด ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ ์ฐ์ด์ ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ง๋ง, ์ต๊ทผ ๋ช ๋ฌ๊ฐ ์๋นํ ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ ์ดํธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ Randy, Leon, Steve๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์ ์ฌํ ๊ฐ์ธ ์์ญ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํต ์๋์ง์ ์ฌ์ ์๋์ง, ์ธํ๋ผ ๋ถ์ผ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๊ต๋ ์ฌ์ ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๊ณ , ๋น์ฃผ๊ฑฐ์ฉ ๊ฑด์ค ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ(์์ฃผ์๊ณ )๋ ์๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง ๋๋น 58% ๋์ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ํํ ์์ฅ์ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ์๋นํ ๋๊ด์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Brad, why don't you touch on just the military applications and great development at Brandenburg as well? | **Leon Topalian:** ๊ตฐ์ฌ ๋ถ์ผ ์ ์ฉ ์ฌ๋ก์ ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ์์์ ํ๋ฅญํ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Brad Ford: Executive Vice President of Plate & Structural Products Yes, quick Brandenburg update. Team continues to make significant progress at the mill. We announced last quarter that we've achieved EBITDA positive results. We achieved that again in Q3. I'd mentioned some weekly or monthly records from last quarter, but honestly, the team has already shattered those records so far here into Q4. And then on the product development side, we've had some pretty notable achievements, one being X70 API grade for line pipe. We've achieved qualifications and certifications there and captured a very large order for Q4 and into Q1. And then on the military side, we're really encouraged by the early-stage military armor trials. Nucor's product breadth in plate between our three plate mills really is going to allow us to become the premier plate supplier in the U.S. military. And then finally, Brandenburg's capabilities, I know we've mentioned on prior calls that we're seeing opportunities with existing customers, and we're really seeing that play out. The capabilities of Brandenburg are allowing us to sell deeper with our current customer base, and we're seeing that in our total plate volumes where we've shipped nearly as much plate through the first three quarters this year as we did for all of last year. | **Brad Ford:** ๋ค, ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ ๊ณต์ฅ ํํฉ์ ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ด ๊ณต์ฅ์์ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์๋นํ ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ EBITDA ํ์๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ฐํํ๋๋ฐ, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฃผ๊ฐ ๋ฐ ์๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ค์ ์ธ๊ธํ์๋๋ฐ, ์์งํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ค์ด ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ํ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ๊ฝค ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ค์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ๋ผ์ธ ํ์ดํ์ฉ X70 API ๋ฑ๊ธ์ ๋๋ค. ํด๋น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ์ธ์ฆ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ , 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋งค์ฐ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋ณดํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ตฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ ๊ตฐ์ฉ ์ฅ๊ฐ ์ํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. Nucor์ 3๊ฐ ํํ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ํตํ ํํ ์ ํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตฐ์ ๋ถ์ผ์์ ์ต๊ณ ์ ํํ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๊ฐ ๋ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก Brandenburg์ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์, ์ด์ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ํ์คํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Brandenburg์ ์ญ๋ ๋๋ถ์ ํ์ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๋ ๊น์ด ์นจํฌํด์ ํ๋งคํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์๊ณ , ์ด๋ ์ ์ฒด ํํ ๋ฌผ๋์์ ํ์ธ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด 3๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ์ถํํ ํํ ๋ฌผ๋์ด ์๋ ์ ์ฒด ๋ฌผ๋๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ง๋จน๋ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Does that cover the questions you had, Andrew? | **Leon Topalian:** ๊ทํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํ ๋ต๋ณ์ด ๋์๋์, Andrew? |
| Andrew Jones: UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Yes. Just one follow-up on the military side. Curious whether export markets like, obviously, Europe with sort of potential doubling, tripling of defense spending. Is that a market you're focused on, given, I guess, with these higher-quality grades it's more of a global market than the U.S?. What is that -- is that a target for Nucor? | **Andrew Jones:** ๋ค, ๊ตฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์์ถ ์์ฅ, ํนํ ์ ๋ฝ์ฒ๋ผ ๊ตญ๋ฐฉ๋น ์ง์ถ์ด 2๋ฐฐ, 3๋ฐฐ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ์๋ ์์ฅ์ ๊ด์ฌ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๊ณ ํ์ง ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๋ณด๋ค๋ ๊ธ๋ก๋ฒ ์์ฅ์ด ๋ ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ์ด ์์ฅ์ด Nucor์ ๋ชฉํ ์์ฅ์ธ๊ฐ์? |
| Noah Hanners: Executive Vice President of Sheet Products Yes. Thanks for the question. Certainly, it's an opportunity. Again, Brandenburg's capability set is unique in the world market. There's only so few folks that can produce the qualities and size ranges and gauges that Brandenburg can. So defense spending increases not just here in the U.S., but across the world. We're well positioned to take advantage of that. | **Noah Hanners:** ๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์คํ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ์ ์ญ๋์ ์ธ๊ณ ์์ฅ์์ ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ธ๋๋ด๋ถ๋ฅดํฌ๊ฐ ์์ฐํ ์ ์๋ ํ์ง๊ณผ ํฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฒ์, ๊ฒ์ด์ง๋ฅผ ์์ฐํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฒด๋ ๊ทน์์์ ๋ถ๊ณผํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ์ธ๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ตญ๋ฐฉ๋น ์ง์ถ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ BNP ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์ ํธ๋ฆฌ์คํ ๊ทธ๋ ์๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Tristan Gresser: BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division The first one is just on your prepared remarks, you mentioned stable demand outlook for next year. But in your presentation, it seems you have a lot of structural tailwinds, especially on resi and infra. So I'm just trying to understand what could be the pockets of weakness next year that would offset that growth and that stable demand outlook. If you could split that between longs and flats that would be helpful as well. | **Tristan Gresser:** ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ๋ด๋ ์์ ์ ๋ง์ด ์์ ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ฐํ ์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ํนํ ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ์ฉ๊ณผ ์ธํ๋ผ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ง์ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ํ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์์ํ์ฌ ์์ ์ ์ธ ์์ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ง๋๋ ๋ด๋ ์ ์ฝ์ธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ด ์ด๋์ธ์ง ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฅ์ฌ(longs)์ ํ์ฌ(flats)๋ก ๊ตฌ๋ถํด์ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, Tristan, look, I'll touch on a couple of things that we expect to be, I guess, relatively tepid next year, but it is factored into our comments about next year being stable, and it could be up a couple of percent. But again, it's factored in with some softer markets like heavy equipment and ag, right? We don't see that coming back. We think the tariff impact of that has gotten into those heavy equipment suppliers in agriculture. We think residential construction is, again, probably not going to be great. Interest rates will certainly help that, and we'll see what the fed does over the next 70 or 80 days as we finish out 2025. And then auto is probably another one that's not a huge market for us today, again, about 5% or 6%. But one that we think we can continue to grow in because, again, we're increasing our capability sets. But again, I think those are probably three areas that we see either flat or down into '26. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, Tristan, ์ ๊ฐ ๋ด๋ ์ ๋ค์ ๋ถ์งํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๋ด๋ ์ด ์์ ์ ์ผ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ 2% ์ ๋ ์ฑ์ฅํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ํฌ ์ ๋ง์ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ฅ๋น์ ๋์ ๋ถ์ผ ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ถ ์ฝ์ธ ์์ฅ๋ค์ด ํฌํจ๋์ด ์๋๋ฐ์, ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ค์ ํ๋ณต์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ธฐ ์ด๋ ต์ต๋๋ค. ๊ด์ธ ์ํฅ์ด ์ค์ฅ๋น ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ๋์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ๊ณ ๋ค์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ์ฉ ๊ฑด์ค ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ก ์ข์ง ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ธํ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ช ๋์์ด ๋๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, 2025๋ ์ ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ๋ ์์ผ๋ก 70~80์ผ ๋์ ์ฐ์ค์ด ์ด๋ค ์กฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ทจํ ์ง ์ง์ผ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋์ฐจ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ๋ ํฐ ์์ฅ์ ์๋์ง๋ง, ์ฝ 5~6% ์ ๋๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ์ง ์์ ๋ถ์ผ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ญ๋์ด ๊ณ์ ํ๋๋๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ญ์ 26๋ ์ ๋ณดํฉ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Tristan Gresser: BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division All right. That's clear. And maybe just following up on that. I mean consensus has external shipments for the steel mills, I think, below 21 million tons for next year. Obviously, you have all those growth projects coming online and ramping up at different paces. So could you help us understand a little bit of the moving pieces into volumes for next year? And what sort of utilization rates for the new project do you expect? And do you feel consensus is conservative or pretty well calibrated at this point? | **Tristan Gresser:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ปจ์ผ์์ค์์๋ ๋ด๋ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ๊ณต์ฅ์ ์ธ๋ถ ์ถํ๋์ด 2,100๋ง ํค ๋ฏธ๋ง์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ ํ๋ก์ ํธ๋ค์ด ๊ฐ๋์ ์์ํ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์ฆ์ฐ๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ธ๋ฐ์. ๋ด๋ ๋ฌผ๋๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ณ์๋ค์ ์ข ๋ ์ดํดํ ์ ์๋๋ก ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ ๊ท ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ฅ ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์์ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฌ ์ปจ์ผ์์ค๊ฐ ๋ณด์์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์ง, ์๋๋ฉด ์ ์ ํ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Well, okay. Look, I appreciate the question and we'll be careful on how much detail we get into for obvious reasons, Tristan. But look, I'm an incredibly optimistic guy. We're sitting on the eighth safest year in the history of Nucor. We've returned $1 billion through the first nine months of the year. We're ramping up two of our products today that we expect in Lexington, North Carolina and Kingman, Arizona that we expect to be profitable in Q1 of '26. We've been upgraded by Moody's to A3. We started up the first of three towers and structures facility in Alabama, the other two next year. Continue to grow our capabilities and now make 95% of the data centers that -- steel that's in data centers that's required, starting up Crawfordsville's galvanizing line and Berkeleys galvanizing line, culminating in West Virginia start-up next year. The tsunami of earnings power that's going to be brought to Newport's balance sheet is significant. And so I couldn't be more optimistic about our future, and do I think there's upside in our forecast? Absolutely. But look, there's other external factors that we all weigh. But again, the investments Nucor has made are for the long term. Not the quarter-to-quarter, that's the 10-, 12-, 15-, 20-year cycles. And again, I think we are as well positioned today as we have ever been in our history. | **Leon Topalian:** ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ์ด์ ๋ก ์ธ๋ถ ์ฌํญ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๋๊ด์ ์ธ ์ฌ๋์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ด์ฝ์ด ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ฌ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ์์ ํ ํ ํด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด 9๊ฐ์ ๋์ 10์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ ธ์ค์บ๋กค๋ผ์ด๋์ฃผ ๋ ์ฑํด๊ณผ ์ ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋์ฃผ ํน๋งจ์์ ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํ์ ์ฆ์ค ์ค์ด๋ฉฐ, 26๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์์ต์ฑ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌด๋์ค๋ก๋ถํฐ A3 ๋ฑ๊ธ์ผ๋ก ์ํฅ ์กฐ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์จ๋ผ๋ฐฐ๋ง์ฃผ์ ํ์ ๋ฐ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฌผ ์์ค 3๊ฐ ์ค ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ํ๊ณ , ๋๋จธ์ง ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ๋ด๋ ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ญ๋์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅ์ํค๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ์ฌ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ํ์ํ ์ฒ ๊ฐ์ 95%๋ฅผ ์์ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Crawfordsville์ ์์ฐ๋๊ธ ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ Berkeley์ ์์ฐ๋๊ธ ๋ผ์ธ์ ๊ฐ๋ํ๊ณ , ๋ด๋ ์๋ West Virginia ๊ณต์ฅ ๊ฐ๋์ผ๋ก ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๋ฉ๋๋ค. Newport์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ํ์ ๋ฐ์๋ ์์ฒญ๋ ์์ต ์ฐฝ์ถ๋ ฅ์ ์๋นํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ณด๋ค ๋ ๋๊ด์ ์ผ ์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ ๋ง์ ์์น ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋๋๊ณ ์? ๋น์ฐํ ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋๊ฐ ๊ณ ๋ คํด์ผ ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ธ๋ถ ์์ธ๋ค๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, Nucor๊ฐ ์งํํ ํฌ์๋ค์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ ์ค์ ์ ์ํ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ, 10๋ , 12๋ , 15๋ , 20๋ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ญ์ฌ์ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ ๋๋ณด๋ค๋ ํ์ฌ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Tristan Gresser: BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division All right. All right. No, that's fair. And maybe just a last one on steel products. Is it fair to expect higher ASP into 2026, have you've seen rebar prices going up? And joists and deck, you mentioned good momentum. And if you could also, I think, Expand Beyond, we're supposed to do $450 million of EBITDA for this year, do you think it's achievable? And lastly, if you could just remind us the timing and EBITDA contribution of the two new tower projects, that would be also really helpful. | **Tristan Gresser:** ๋ค, ์ข์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ ํ์ ํ๊ท ํ๋งค ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ(ASP) ์์น์ ๊ธฐ๋ํด๋ ๋ ๊น์? ์ฒ ๊ทผ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ์์นํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฅ์ (joists)๊ณผ ๋ฐํฌ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ข์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๊ณ ์. ๋ํ Expand Beyond๊ฐ ์ฌํด EBITDA 4์ต 5์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์คํ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์ง์? ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ท ํ์ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ์ผ์ ๊ณผ EBITDA ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋๋ฅผ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Yes, I'll start with the last. And if I forget the first, either, Steve can help me remember. But -- or you can, Tristan. But if we start with the last question you asked about the other two towers facilities, Indiana is expected to be up and running midyear of next year and then Utah facility should be end of '26. So again, by the end of next year, we will rival some of the largest players in that space with a capability set that is truly differentiated, Tristan. It's -- these facilities that are being built aren't -- they're fully automated. They are using the latest technologies that you can imagine that are making these -- the design window for those from a cost and technology standpoint, incredibly advantageous. The product segment, though, is also another area, and I'll let John comment here a little bit, but it's another area for us that we are incredibly optimistic about. If you think about the last 3, 4, 5 years of the products group, they have generated somewhere between 30% and 40% of Nucor's overall net earnings. We have seen in the cyclical market that we're in as a steel company, the products group has reached a new high, and we've seen the low and we're already climbing out. Our backlogs are up 25% to 30% year-over-year. We're seeing pricing stabilized and moving up in most of the segments within that group. And so again, do I think there's a lot of upside as we head into the new year and some tailwinds that could make that better? Yes, I absolutely believe that's to be the case. | **Leon Topalian:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ง๋ง ์ง๋ฌธ๋ถํฐ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ๊ฐ ์์ด๋ฒ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด Steve๊ฐ ์๊ธฐ์์ผ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋ Tristan๋์ด ๋ค์ ๋ง์ํด์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ ์ง๋ฌธํ์ ๋๋จธ์ง ๋ ๊ฐ ํ์ ์์ค ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ธ๋์ ๋ ์์ค์ ๋ด๋ ์ค๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ ์์ ์ด๊ณ ์ ํ ์์ค์ 2026๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ๋๋ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋ด๋ ๋ง๊น์ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํด๋น ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ต๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค๊ณผ ์ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ๋๋ํ ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๊ฑด์ค ์ค์ธ ์ด ์์ค๋ค์ ๋จ์ํ ์์ค์ด ์๋๋๋ค. ์์ ์๋ํ๋์ด ์๊ณ , ์์ํ ์ ์๋ ์ต์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ค๋ค์ ์ค๊ณ๋ ๋น์ฉ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์กฐ๊ฑด์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋๊ด์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ญ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด์๋ John์ด ์ข ๋ ์ค๋ช ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์ง๋ 3๋ , 4๋ , 5๋ ๊ฐ ์ ํ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, Nucor ์ ์ฒด ์์ด์ต์ ์ฝ 30%์์ 40% ์ ๋๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒ ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ๋ก์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฒช๊ณ ์๋ ์ํ์ ์์ฅ ์ํฉ์์, ์ ํ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ ์๋ก์ด ์ต๊ณ ์ ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ณ , ์ต์ ์ ๋ ๊ฒฝํํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ์ฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ๋ณต์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ(์์ฃผ์๊ณ )๋ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 25%์์ 30% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ํด๋น ๊ทธ๋ฃน ๋ด ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ์์ ํ๋๊ณ ์์นํ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ํด๋ก ์ ์ด๋ค๋ฉด์ ์๋นํ ์์น ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์๊ณ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ ์ข๊ฒ ๋ง๋ค ์ ์๋ ์ํ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋๋? ๋ค, ์ ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| John Hollatz: Executive Vice President of Fabricated Construction Products Yes. Tristan, this is John. On the pricing side, look, the market is going to dictate what pricing is, but the one that we always get the question around is joist and deck pricing. And as we mentioned last quarter, we're expecting the trend and this is coming to a reality where our order entries on joist and deck is matching our backlog pricing. That's been the case for about the last nine months. We're seeing a lot of stability there. And just echoing what Leon said, this -- the margins and the profits produced by these businesses are much stronger than what they were pre-pandemic, which is important for our downstream performance. | **John Hollatz:** ๋ค, ํธ๋ฆฌ์คํ. ์ ๋ ์กด์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ฅ์ด ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค๋ง, ํญ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ฅ์ (joist)๊ณผ ๋ฐํฌ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ ํ์คํ๋๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์, ์ฅ์ ๊ณผ ๋ฐํฌ์ ์ ๊ท ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ํฉ์ด ์ง๋ 9๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ ์ง์๋๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์๋นํ ์์ ์ฑ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ์จ์ด ๋งํ ๊ฒ์ ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ์๋ฉด, ์ด๋ค ์ฌ์ ๋ถ์ ๋ง์ง๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ์ ํฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ์ด์ ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ค์ด์คํธ๋ฆผ ์ค์ ์ ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Tristan Gresser: BNP Paribas Exane, Research Division All right. And just on the $450 million EBITDA target for Expand Beyond? | **Tristan Gresser:** ๋ค, Expand Beyond์ 4์ต 5์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ EBITDA ๋ชฉํ์ ๋ํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Stephen Laxton: CFO, Treasurer & Executive VP Yes. Tristan, thanks for that question. Expand is doing fine. It's hitting its clip, and it's a mixed bag of things as Leon was highlighting some of the progress we're making in towers. Keep in mind that's a bit of a build-out, a greenfield build-out. So we still would point people to our long-term run rate of $700 million as a target, and we're not going to back off of that. | **Stephen Laxton:** ๋ค, Tristan, ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. Expand ์ฌ์ ์ ์์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒ ์งํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ชฉํ์น๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์, Leon์ด ๊ฐ์กฐํ๋ ํ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์์ ์ง์ ์ ํฌํจํด ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถ์ผ๊ฐ ํผํฉ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐํ๋(greenfield) ๋ฐฉ์์ ๊ตฌ์ถ ์ฌ์ ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ์ผ๋์ ๋์ ์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ ๋ฐ๋ ์ดํธ(run rate)๋ก 7์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๋ชฉํ์์ ๋ฌผ๋ฌ์ค ์๊ฐ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Thank you very much. We currently have no further questions. So I just like to hand back to Leon Topalian for any further remarks. | **Operator:** ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ถ๊ฐ ๋ง์์ ์ํด Leon Topalian์๊ฒ ๋ค์ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Leon Topalian: President, CEO & Chairman of the Board Well, thank you for joining us for today's call and for your questions. Nucor is continuing to execute on our strategy to grow our core steelmaking capabilities while expanding into downstream steel adjacent businesses. I'd like to thank our team for delivering solid financial performance and for your unwavering commitment to become the world's safest steel company. Thank you to our customers for allowing us to serve you and to our shareholders for investing your valuable capital with us. Have a great day. | **Leon Topalian:** ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์๊ณ ์ง๋ฌธํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ด์ฝ์ด๋ ํต์ฌ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ ์กฐ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐํํ๋ ๋์์ ๋ค์ด์คํธ๋ฆผ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ์ธ์ ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฅํ๋ ์ ๋ต์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํํํ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์ธ๊ณ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์์ ํ ์ฒ ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ๊ฐ ๋๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ณํจ์์ด ํ์ ํด ์ค ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋๋ค๊ป ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํด์ฃผ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ณผ ์์คํ ์๋ณธ์ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ํฌ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ์ฃผ์ฃผ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ข์ ํ๋ฃจ ๋ณด๋ด์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Operator: As we conclude today's call, we'd like to thank everyone for joining. You may disconnect your lines. | **Operator:** ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ๋ง์น๋ฉด์, ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์ข ๋ฃํ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
# Nucor ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์์ฝ (2025๋
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โข **์ค์ ๋ฐ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ์**: 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ฒฌ์กฐ. ์ฐ์ด 9๊ฐ์๊ฐ 10์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ์ ์ค์ํ์ผ๋, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
์ 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก 2020๋
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๊ฐ ์ฝ 60% ํ์. Moody's ์ ์ฉ๋ฑ๊ธ A3๋ก ์ํฅ ์กฐ์
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6์ฒ๋ง ํ๋ฐฉํผํธ ์ฉ๋ ์์, ํฅํ 5~6๋
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์ฒด๋ก ์ฐจ๋ณํ. ์กฐ์ด์คํธ/๋ฐํฌ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ์ ๋
๋๋น 25% ์ฆ๊ฐ, 2026๋
๊น์ง ์ฐ์ฅ
โข **๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ค๋น ํฌ์ ์งํ**: ์จ์คํธ๋ฒ์ง๋์ ์ ๊ท ์ํธ๋ฐ(์ญ์ฌ์ ์ต๋ ํฌ์) 75% ์๊ณต, 2026๋
๊ฐ๋ ์์ . ๋ ์ฑํด(๋
ธ์ค์บ๋กค๋ผ์ด๋), ํน๋งจ(์ ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋) ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ก๋ฐ์ 2026๋
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