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๐Ÿ“„ Earnings Call Transcript ๋ฒˆ์—ญ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ

๐Ÿ“Š Presentation

Original Translation
ASML Holding N.V. (ASML) Q4 2025 Earnings Call January 28, 2026 9:00 AM EST

Company Participants

Jim Kavanagh - Vice President of Investor Relations
Christophe Fouquet - President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management
R.J.M.
# ASML ํ™€๋”ฉ N.V. (ASML) 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ
2026๋…„ 1์›” 28์ผ ์˜ค์ „ 9์‹œ (๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋™๋ถ€ ํ‘œ์ค€์‹œ)

**ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ฐธ์„์ž**

Jim Kavanagh - ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ
Christophe Fouquet - ์‚ฌ์žฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ด์‚ฌํšŒ ์˜์žฅ
R.J.M.

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**[์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์‹œ์ž‘]**

[์ฐธ๊ณ : ์ „์ฒด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์›๋ฌธ ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์ฐธ์„์ž ์ •๋ณด๊นŒ์ง€๋งŒ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋‚ด์šฉ(๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ๋ฐœํ‘œ, ์žฌ๋ฌด ์‹ค์ , Q&A ๋“ฑ)์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ํ•œ๊ตญ์–ด ๋ฒˆ์—ญ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.]

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**๋ฒˆ์—ญ ์ฐธ๊ณ ์‚ฌํ•ญ:**
- ASML: ๋„ค๋œ๋ž€๋“œ ์†Œ์žฌ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ์žฅ๋น„ ์ œ์กฐ์—…์ฒด๋กœ, ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋„ "ASML"๋กœ ํ†ต์šฉ๋จ
- ์งํ•จ ๋ฐ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์šฉ์–ด๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ ๊ธˆ์œต์—…๊ณ„ ํ‘œ์ค€ ์šฉ์–ด๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ
- ์ˆ˜์น˜ ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์œ ๋ช…์‚ฌ๋Š” ์›๋ฌธ ์œ ์ง€
- ์กด์นญ ๋ฐ ๊ฒฉ์‹์ฒด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ ์œ ์ง€

์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Dassen - Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board

Conference Call Participants

Christopher Muse - Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division
Joseph Quatrochi - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division
Andrew Gardiner - Citigroup Inc., Research Division
Alexander Duval - Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division
Sreekrishnan Sankarnarayanan - TD Cowen, Research Division
Mehdi Hosseini - Susquehanna Financial Group, LLLP, Research Division
Didier Scemama - BofA Securities, Research Division
Francois-Xavier Bouvignies - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division
Christopher Caso - Wolfe Research, LLC
Tammy Qiu - Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co.
๋‹ค์„ผ - ์ „๋ฌด์ด์‚ฌ, CFO ๊ฒธ ๊ฒฝ์˜์œ„์›ํšŒ ์œ„์›

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํผ ๋ฎค์ฆˆ - ์บ”ํ„ฐ ํ”ผ์ธ ์ œ๋Ÿด๋“œ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์กฐ์…‰ ์ฝฐํŠธ๋กœ์น˜ - ์›ฐ์ŠคํŒŒ๊ณ  ์ฆ๊ถŒ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์•ค๋“œ๋ฅ˜ ๊ฐ€๋””๋„ˆ - ์”จํ‹ฐ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋“€๋ฐœ - ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ์‚ญ์Šค ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
์Šค๋ฆฌํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šˆ๋‚œ ์‚ฐ์นด๋ฅด๋‚˜๋ผ์•ผ๋‚œ - TD ์ฝ”์›ฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋ฉ”๋”” ํ˜ธ์„ธ์ด๋‹ˆ - ์„œ์Šค์ผ€ํ•˜๋‚˜ ํŒŒ์ด๋‚ธ์…œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
๋””๋””์— ์Šค์ผ€๋งˆ๋งˆ - ๋ฑ…ํฌ์˜ค๋ธŒ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ์ฆ๊ถŒ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
ํ”„๋ž‘์ˆ˜์•„-์ž๋น„์— ๋ถ€๋น„๋‹ˆ์— - UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋จผํŠธ ๋ฑ…ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํผ ์นด์†Œ - ์šธํ”„ ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜
ํƒœ๋ฏธ ํ - ์š”ํ•œ ๋ฒ ๋ Œ๋ฒ ๋ฅดํฌ, ๊ณ ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์•ค ์ปดํผ๋‹ˆ
KG, Research Division

Presentation

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the ASML 2025 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results Conference Call on January 28, 2026. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Jim Kavanagh. Please go ahead. Jim Kavanagh
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone. This is Jim Kavanagh, Head of Investor Relations at ASML. Joining me today on the call are ASML's CEO, Christophe Fouquet; and our CFO, Roger Dassen. The subject of today's call is ASML's 2025 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Results.
์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„ 1์›” 28์ผ ASML 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. [์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด์‚ฌํ•ญ] ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋Š” ๋…น์Œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ Jim Kavanagh ๋‹˜๊ป˜ ์ง„ํ–‰์„ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Jim Kavanagh
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ASML ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ์ฑ…์ž„์ž Jim Kavanagh์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—๋Š” ASML์˜ CEO Christophe Fouquet๊ณผ CFO Roger Dassen์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฝœ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ASML์˜ 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
The length of this call will be 60 minutes, and questions will be taken in the order that they are received. This call is also being broadcast live over the Internet at www.asml.com. A transcript of management's opening remarks and a replay of the call will be available on our website shortly following the conclusion of this call. Before we begin, I would like to caution listeners that comments made by management during this conference call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements involve material risks and uncertainties.์ด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์€ 60๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ ‘์ˆ˜๋œ ์ˆœ์„œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์€ www.asml.com์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ƒ์ค‘๊ณ„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์˜ ๋ฐœ์–ธ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์žฌ์ƒ๋ณธ์€ ์ฝœ ์ข…๋ฃŒ ์งํ›„ ๋‹น์‚ฌ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์•ž์„œ, ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐœ์–ธ์—๋Š” ์—ฐ๋ฐฉ์ฆ๊ถŒ๋ฒ•์ƒ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ˆ์ธก์ง„์ˆ (forward-looking statements)์ด ํฌํ•จ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์œ ์˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ˆ์ธก์ง„์ˆ ์€ ์ค‘๋Œ€ํ•œ ์œ„ํ—˜๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
For a discussion of risk factors, I encourage you to review the safe harbor statement contained in today's press release and presentation found on our website at www.asml.com and in our ASML's annual report on Form 20-F and in other documents as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Christophe Fouquet for a brief introduction. Christophe Fouquet
President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management

Thank you, Jim. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call.
์œ„ํ—˜ ์š”์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ณด๋„์ž๋ฃŒ์™€ ๋‹น์‚ฌ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ www.asml.com์—์„œ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐœํ‘œ์ž๋ฃŒ์— ํฌํ•จ๋œ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•ญ(safe harbor) ์กฐํ•ญ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ASML์˜ ์—ฐ์ฐจ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ Form 20-F ๋ฐ ์ฆ๊ถŒ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜์œ„์›ํšŒ์— ์ œ์ถœ๋œ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋ฌธ์„œ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด์ œ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ํ‘ธ์ผ€(Christophe Fouquet)์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์†Œ๊ฐœ ๋ง์”€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ํ‘ธ์ผ€
์‚ฌ์žฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ด์‚ฌํšŒ ์˜์žฅ

์ง, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Before we begin the Q&A session, Roger and I would like to provide an overview and some commentary on the fourth quarter results and full year 2025 results as well as provide some additional comments on the current business environment and on our future business outlook. Roger? R.J.M. Dassen
Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board

Thank you, Christophe, and welcome, everyone. I will first review the fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial accomplishments and then provide guidance for the first quarter of 2026. Let me start with our fourth quarter accomplishments. In fourth quarter of 2025, total net sales were EUR 9.7 billion, which is within our guidance.
Q&A ์„ธ์…˜์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—, Roger์™€ ์ €๋Š” 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ๊ณผ 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ „์ฒด ์‹ค์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์š”์™€ ๋…ผํ‰์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ , ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์—… ํ™˜๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ํ–ฅํ›„ ์‚ฌ์—… ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Roger?

R.J.M. Dassen
์ „๋ฌด์ด์‚ฌ, CFO ๊ฒธ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ด์‚ฌํšŒ ๋ฉค๋ฒ„

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Christophe. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์™€ 2025 ํšŒ๊ณ„์—ฐ๋„ ์ „์ฒด์˜ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•œ ํ›„, 2026๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ด ์ˆœ๋งค์ถœ์€ 97์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Net system sales were EUR 7.6 billion, which includes EUR 3.6 billion from EUV system sales, including 2 High NA systems, and EUR 4 billion from non-EUV system sales. Net system sales were driven by Logic at 70%, with the remaining 30% coming from Memory. Installed Base Management sales for the quarter came in at EUR 2.1 billion, as guided. Gross margin for the quarter was also within guidance at 52.2%. On operating expenses, R&D expenses were slightly higher than expected at rounded EUR 1.3 billion mainly due to higher nonrecurring personnel costs and the recognition of a grant that shifted into 2026.์ˆœ๋งค์ถœ์•ก์€ 76์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” High NA ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ 2๋Œ€๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ 36์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์™€ ๋น„EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ˆœ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๋กœ์ง์ด 70%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ 30%๋Š” ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ค์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜๊ด€๋ฆฌ(Installed Base Management) ๋งค์ถœ์€ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋Œ€๋กœ 21์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด์ธ 52.2%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์—…๋น„์šฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ, ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ๋น„๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋น„๊ฒฝ์ƒ ์ธ๊ฑด๋น„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€ 2026๋…„์œผ๋กœ ์ด์—ฐ๋œ ์ •๋ถ€ ๋ณด์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ธ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์†Œํญ ๋†’์€ ์•ฝ 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
SG&A expenses also came in higher than guided at EUR 375 million, driven mostly by higher mainly nonrecurring salary-related costs, the sale of receivables and pull-in of certain IT spending. The effective tax rate for Q4 was 18%. For the full year 2025, the annualized effective tax rate came in at 17.7%. Net income in Q4 was EUR 2.8 billion, representing 29.2% of total net sales, resulting in earnings per share of EUR 7.35. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the fourth quarter with cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments at a level of EUR 13.3 billion.SG&A ๋น„์šฉ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋†’์€ 3์–ต 7,500๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ผํšŒ์„ฑ ์ธ๊ฑด๋น„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€, ๋งค์ถœ์ฑ„๊ถŒ ๋งค๊ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ IT ์ง€์ถœ์˜ ์กฐ๊ธฐ ์ง‘ํ–‰์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹คํšจ์„ธ์œจ์€ 18%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„ ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์—ฐํ™˜์‚ฐ ์‹คํšจ์„ธ์œจ์€ 17.7%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 28์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 29.2%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฃผ๋‹น์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 7.35์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€์ฐจ๋Œ€์กฐํ‘œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง ํ˜„๊ธˆ, ํ˜„๊ธˆ์„ฑ์ž์‚ฐ ๋ฐ ๋‹จ๊ธฐํˆฌ์ž์ž์‚ฐ์€ 133์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Our Q4 free cash flow was EUR 10.9 billion, which was significantly higher relative to the previous quarters of this year, with the majority of the cash coming in at the very end of the quarter. Moving to the order book. Q4 net bookings came in at EUR 13.2 billion, split between EUR 7.4 billion of EUV systems and EUR 5.8 billion of non-EUV systems. Net bookings in the quarter were slightly weighted towards Memory with 56% of bookings and Logic accounting for the remaining 44%. Turning now to the full year. Net sales came in at EUR 32.7 billion with a gross margin of 52.8%. EUV system sales realized from 48 systems, including High NA, were EUR 11.6 billion, which was 39% higher than 2024.4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์€ 109์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ด์ „ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋“ค ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„๊ธˆ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ง์— ์œ ์ž…๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋Š” 132์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ 74์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์™€ ๋น„EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ 58์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ค‘ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํŽธ์ค‘๋˜์–ด 56%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋กœ์ง์ด ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ 44%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ์€ 327์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 52.8%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. High NA๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ 48๋Œ€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ์‹คํ˜„๋œ EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 116์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ, 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 39% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Deep UV system sales decreased 6% year-over-year to EUR 12 billion. Our metrology and inspection system sales increased 28% from 2024 to EUR 825 million. Looking at the market segments for 2025. Logic system revenue was EUR 16.1 billion, 22% higher than 2024. Memory system revenue was EUR 8.4 billion, 2% lower than 2024, and Installed Base Management sales were EUR 8.2 billion, 26% higher than 2024. We concluded 2025 with a backlog of around EUR 38.8 billion. In 2025, we continue to invest in innovation across our full product portfolio, increasing R&D spending to EUR 4.7 billion or about 14% of sales. SG&A increased to EUR 1.3 billion in 2025, which was about 4% of sales.Deep UV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 6% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•œ 120์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ„์ธก ๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 28% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ 8์–ต 2,500๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ๋ณ„๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋กœ์ง ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 22% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ 161์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 2% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•œ 84์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์„ค์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜๊ด€๋ฆฌ(Installed Base Management) ๋งค์ถœ์€ 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 26% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ 82์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„์„ ์•ฝ 388์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋กœ ๋งˆ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„์—๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ํ˜์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†ํ•˜์—ฌ R&D ์ง€์ถœ์„ 47์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ฆ์•กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ์•ฝ 14%์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒ๋งค๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋น„๋Š” 2025๋…„์— 13์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ์•ฝ 4%์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Net income for the full year was EUR 9.6 billion, 29.4% of net sales, resulting in an earnings per share of EUR 24.73. 2025, we generated free cash flow of EUR 11 billion. With that, I would like to turn to our expectations for the first quarter of 2026. We expect Q1 total net sales to be between EUR 8.2 billion and EUR 8.9 billion. We expect our Q1 Installed Base Management sales to be around EUR 2.4 billion. Gross margin for Q1 is expected to be between 51% and 53%. Expected R&D expenses for Q1 are around EUR 1.2 billion, and SG&A is expected to be around EUR 0.3 billion.์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 96์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๋งค์ถœ์•ก ๋Œ€๋น„ 29.4%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฃผ๋‹น์ˆœ์ด์ต์€ 24.73์œ ๋กœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„์—๋Š” 110์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ž‰์—ฌํ˜„๊ธˆํ๋ฆ„์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ 2026๋…„ 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ด ๋งค์ถœ์•ก์€ 82์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์—์„œ 89์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ค์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ(Installed Base Management) ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์•ฝ 24์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 51%์—์„œ 53% ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์˜ˆ์ƒ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ๋น„๋Š” ์•ฝ 12์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์ด๋ฉฐ, ํŒ๋งค๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋น„๋Š” ์•ฝ 3์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
For the full year 2026, we expect net sales to be between EUR 34 billion and EUR 39 billion, with a gross margin of between 51% and 53%. Regarding our cash return to our shareholders in Q4, ASML second interim dividend over 2025 of EUR 1.60 per ordinary share. ASML intends to declare a total dividend for the year 2025 of EUR 7.50 per ordinary share, which is a 17% increase compared to 2024. An interim dividend of EUR 1.60 per ordinary share will be made payable on February 18, 2026.2026๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด, ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์•ก์ด 340์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์—์„œ 390์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 51%์—์„œ 53% ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ™˜์›๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ, ASML์€ 2025๋…„๋„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ค‘๊ฐ„๋ฐฐ๋‹น์œผ๋กœ ๋ณดํ†ต์ฃผ 1์ฃผ๋‹น 1.60์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ง€๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ASML์€ 2025๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ์—ฐ๋„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณดํ†ต์ฃผ 1์ฃผ๋‹น ์ด 7.50์œ ๋กœ์˜ ๋ฐฐ๋‹น์„ ์„ ์–ธํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” 2024๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ 17% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ†ต์ฃผ 1์ฃผ๋‹น 1.60์œ ๋กœ์˜ ์ค‘๊ฐ„๋ฐฐ๋‹น๊ธˆ์€ 2026๋…„ 2์›” 18์ผ์— ์ง€๊ธ‰๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Recognizing this interim dividend and the 2 interim dividends of EUR 1.60 per ordinary share paid in 2025, this leads to a total dividend -- final dividend proposal to the Annual General Meeting of EUR 2.70 per ordinary share. In Q4 2025, we purchased shares for a total amount of around EUR 1.7 billion. This program finished in December 2025 with a total of EUR 7.6 billion repurchased out of the up to EUR 12 billion program. We returned EUR 8.5 billion to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share buybacks in 2025. ASML announced a new share buyback program effective today and to be executed by December 31, 2028.์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ค‘๊ฐ„๋ฐฐ๋‹น๊ณผ 2025๋…„์— ์ง€๊ธ‰๋œ ๋ณดํ†ต์ฃผ๋‹น 1.60์œ ๋กœ์˜ 2ํšŒ ์ค‘๊ฐ„๋ฐฐ๋‹น์„ ๊ฐ์•ˆํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ •๊ธฐ์ฃผ์ฃผ์ดํšŒ์— ์ œ์•ˆํ•  ์ตœ์ข… ๋ฐฐ๋‹น๊ธˆ์€ ๋ณดํ†ต์ฃผ๋‹น 2.70์œ ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ์•ฝ 17์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์ž์‚ฌ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋งค์ž…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์€ 2025๋…„ 12์›”์— ์™„๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ตœ๋Œ€ 120์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ์ค‘ ์ด 76์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋งค์ž…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” 2025๋…„ ๋ฐฐ๋‹น๊ธˆ๊ณผ ์ž์‚ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ž…์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ 85์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ™˜์›ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ASML์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ 2028๋…„ 12์›” 31์ผ๊นŒ์ง€ ์‹คํ–‰๋  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ž์‚ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ž… ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We intend to repurchase shares of an amount up to EUR 12 billion, of which we expect a total of up to EUR 2 million will be used to cover employee share plans. We intend to cancel the remainder of the shares repurchase. With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Christophe. Christophe Fouquet
President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management

Thank you, Roger. As Roger has highlighted, we Finished the year with a very strong quarter with good financial results. The market outlook has improved notably over the last months, especially as related to the continued buildup of data centers and AI-related infrastructure.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ตœ๋Œ€ 120์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์ž์‚ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ž…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์ค‘ ์ตœ๋Œ€ 200๋งŒ ์œ ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž„์ง์› ์ฃผ์‹ ๋ณด์ƒ ์ œ๋„์— ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋งค์ž… ์ฃผ์‹์€ ์†Œ๊ฐํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด์ œ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํ”„ ํ‘ธ์ผ€
์‚ฌ์žฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์‚ฌํšŒ ์˜์žฅ

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋กœ์ €. ๋กœ์ €๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•œ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ๊ณผ ์–‘ํ˜ธํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋กœ ํ•œ ํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์žฅ ์ „๋ง์€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์›”๊ฐ„ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์™€ AI ๊ด€๋ จ ์ธํ”„๋ผ์˜ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This buildup is now translated into additional capacity needs at our advanced logic and DRAM customers and, in turn, an increased demand across our product portfolio, especially in our EUV business. Over the past quarters, we have seen a notable increase in acceleration of capacity expansion planning across a large majority of our customer base. In advanced logic, our foundry customers have become more positive on the long-term sustainability of demand on a number of fronts. AI accelerators are migrating from the 4-nanometer node to the more litho-intensive 3-nanometer node.์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง ๋ฐ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์บํŒŒ ๋‹ˆ์ฆˆ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‚ฌ ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค ์ „๋ฐ˜, ํŠนํžˆ EUV ์‚ฌ์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ค์ˆ˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์—์„œ ์บํŒŒ ํ™•์žฅ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š”, ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์š”์˜ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์  ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋”์šฑ ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ๊ฐ€์†๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด 4๋‚˜๋…ธ ๋…ธ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋†’์€ 3๋‚˜๋…ธ ๋…ธ๋“œ๋กœ ๋งˆ์ด๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
At the same time, customers continue to ramp the 2-nanometer node in support of next-generation HPC and mobile application. In Memory, our customers are reporting very strong demand for both HBM and DDR products, with supply remaining very tight through at least 2026 as they ramp both their 1B and 1C nodes in support of the demand. In addition, DRAM customers continue to adopt more EUV layers on those nodes. This is expected to continue on their future nodes as they migrate more multi-patterning Deep UV to single exposed EUV, resulting in an increase in litho intensity.๋™์‹œ์— ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ HPC ๋ฐ ๋ชจ๋ฐ”์ผ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด 2๋‚˜๋…ธ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ๋…ธ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด HBM๊ณผ DDR ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ชจ๋‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ 1B ๋ฐ 1C ๋…ธ๋“œ ํ™•๋Œ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ตœ์†Œ 2026๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํƒ€์ดํŠธํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ํ•ด๋‹น ๋…ธ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋…ธ๋“œ์—์„œ๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‹ค์ค‘ ํŒจํ„ฐ๋‹ Deep UV๋ฅผ ๋‹จ์ผ ๋…ธ๊ด‘ EUV๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As a result of these dynamics, we see our customer in both segments increasing and accelerating capacity expansion plans to support the very strong demand they are seeing. We expect these investments to generate business for ASML in 2026 and beyond. Starting first with EUV. We expect revenues to be up significantly this year as a result of the dynamics in both advanced logic and DRAM. In non-EUV, we expect revenues for 2026 to be similar to last year as our advanced logic and memory customer expand capacity. As part of the outlook for non-EUV, we expect the China region share in our total net sales in 2026 to be in line with our current system backlog, which is around 20%.์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ญํ•™ ๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–‘ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ค๋น„ ํ™•์žฅ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋“ค์ด 2026๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„ ASML์˜ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์ฐฝ์ถœํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € EUV๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง๊ณผ DRAM ์–‘์ชฝ์˜ ์—ญํ•™ ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋กœ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ์ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„EUV์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง ๋ฐ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์„ค๋น„๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ 2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ž‘๋…„๊ณผ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„EUV ์ „๋ง์˜ ์ผํ™˜์œผ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 2026๋…„ ์ „์ฒด ์ˆœ๋งค์ถœ์—์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์™€ ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ์•ฝ 20% ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We also expect our metrology and inspection businesses to grow significantly as customers increasingly invest in enhancing their process control strategy. For Installed Base Management, we expect another year of revenue growth. This is primarily the result of increasing service revenue from our growing installed base of EUV systems and of our customer plans for performance upgrades to support their rapidly increasing capacity requirements. Turning to technology. In EUV, we continue to make progress driving down the cost of technology on our customer most advanced processes.๋˜ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต์ • ์ œ์–ด ์ „๋žต ๊ฐ•ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ณ„์ธก ๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ ์‚ฌ์—…๋„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ค์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ(Installed Base Management) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์„ค์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ํ™•๋Œ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋งค์ถœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์™€, ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ๊ณ„ํš์— ๊ธฐ์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ, EUV ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๊ณต์ •์—์„œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„์ „์„ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We ramped our NXE:3800E for 2025, and its productivity gains support further replacement of complex multi-patterning with single exposed EUV for multiple layers on current and future DRAM. We also expect both immersion and EUV litho intensity to increase as customers migrate from 6 F-square technology to 4 F-square architectures. With regard to High NA, our customers are reporting good progress on their qualification of the technology for logic and DRAM applications in their R&D facilities. Intel announced last month the qualification and acceptance of their EXE:5200B system, which will be used in high-volume manufacturing for their leading-edge nodes.2025๋…„์—๋Š” NXE:3800E์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฐ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ DRAM์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด์—์„œ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๋‹ค์ค‘ ํŒจํ„ฐ๋‹์„ ๋‹จ์ผ ๋…ธ๊ด‘ EUV๋กœ ๋Œ€์ฒดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋”์šฑ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด 6 F-square ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์—์„œ 4 F-square ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์นจ์ง€(immersion)์™€ EUV ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. High NA์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ R&D ์‹œ์„ค์—์„œ ๋กœ์ง ๋ฐ DRAM ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๊ฒ€์ฆ์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธํ…”์€ ์ง€๋‚œ๋‹ฌ EXE:5200B ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋…ธ๋“œ์˜ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We expect more systems to be released to our customer in 2026, supporting their preparation for the insertion of High NA in high-volume manufacturing. With the continued increase of 3D structure in advanced logic and memory, we see more adoption of our [ multi-e-beam ] inspection system to detect optically nonvisible yield-limiting defects. Our progress on system maturity and productivity supports further use of this multi-beam system in high-volume manufacturing on the most advanced nodes. In summary, our product portfolio road map remains focused on supporting the road map requirements of our customers and driving our overall competitiveness.์ €ํฌ๋Š” 2026๋…„์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ๋„๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ High NA ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋„์ž… ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ์ง€์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง๊ณผ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ 3D ๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ, ๊ด‘ํ•™์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์ง€๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ˆ˜์œจ ์ œํ•œ ๊ฒฐํ•จ์„ ๊ฒ€์ถœํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ ์ „์ž๋น” ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ฑ„ํƒ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์„ฑ์ˆ™๋„์™€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ง„์ „์€ ์ตœ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋…ธ๋“œ์˜ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์ƒ์‚ฐ์—์„œ ์ด ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ๋น” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํ™œ์šฉ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ ํฌํŠธํด๋ฆฌ์˜ค ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ณ„์† ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We look forward to sharing more performance data at the SPIE Advanced Lithography Conference in February. Looking longer term, the last few months have confirmed the positive impact of AI on customer demand for our advanced product and especially for our EUV system. As we shared during our Capital Market Day in November 2024, we see the end market dynamics supporting a shift in product mix towards more demand for our advanced lithography products and an increase in litho intensity. The combination of our strong productivity road map on Low NA and the introduction of High NA supports further cost of technology reduction.2์›” SPIE ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ AI๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ์ œํ’ˆ, ํŠนํžˆ EUV ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นœ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ™•์ธ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2024๋…„ 11์›” ์ž๋ณธ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋‚ (Capital Market Day)์—์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๋‹น์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ตœ์ข… ์‹œ์žฅ ์—ญํ•™์ด ์ œํ’ˆ ๋ฏน์Šค๋ฅผ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ฆ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ์†Œ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„(litho intensity)๋ฅผ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Low NA์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต๊ณผ High NA ๋„์ž…์˜ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ์€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋น„์šฉ์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It also supports the conversion of more multi-patterning Deep UV to single EUV exposure especially on advanced DRAM nodes. In line with what we shared at the 2024 Capital Market Day, we expect a [ 2000 ] revenue opportunity between EUR 44 billion and EUR 60 billion with an expected gross margin between 56% and 60%. With that, we will be happy to take your questions. Jim Kavanagh
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Roger, and thank you, Christophe. Now the operator will instruct everyone momentarily on the protocol for the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Now operator, could we have your final instruction and then the first question, please?
๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋Š” ํŠนํžˆ ์ฒจ๋‹จ DRAM ๋…ธ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ ํŒจํ„ฐ๋‹ ๋”ฅ UV๋ฅผ ๋‹จ์ผ EUV ๋…ธ๊ด‘์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2024๋…„ ์ž๋ณธ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ๋‚ (Capital Market Day)์—์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” [2000๋…„] ๋งค์ถœ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ 440์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์—์„œ 600์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์˜ˆ์ƒ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 56%์—์„œ 60% ์‚ฌ์ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Jim Kavanagh
ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Roger, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Christophe๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๊ตํ™˜์›์ด ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„ Q&A ์„ธ์…˜ ์ง„ํ–‰ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ˆ๋‚ดํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. [๊ตํ™˜์› ์•ˆ๋‚ด] ๊ตํ™˜์›๋‹˜, ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์•ˆ๋‚ด์™€ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

# ASML 2025 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ฃผ์š” ์š”์•ฝ

โ€ข **4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์  ์–‘ํ˜ธ, ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ์ƒํ–ฅ**: 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถœ 97์–ต ์œ ๋กœ(๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ถ€ํ•ฉ), ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๋งค์ถœ 327์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ. 2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋Š” 340~390์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ „๋ง. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์€ 51~53%๋กœ 2025๋…„ 52.8% ๋Œ€๋น„ ์†Œํญ ํ•˜๋ฝ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ ์‹œ์‚ฌ.

โ€ข **EUV ์ˆ˜์š” ๊ธ‰์ฆ, AI ์ธํ”„๋ผ ํˆฌ์ž ํ™•๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š” ๋™๋ ฅ**: ์„ ์ง„ ๋กœ์ง๊ณผ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ AI ๊ฐ€์†๊ธฐ ๋ฐ HBM ์ˆ˜์š” ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋กœ EUV ๋งค์ถœ์ด 2026๋…„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ „๋ง. High NA ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์ธํ…”์˜ ์–‘์‚ฐ ์ ๊ฒฉ ์Šน์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2026๋…„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ถœํ•˜ ์˜ˆ์ •. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ์ž”๊ณ ๋Š” 132์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋กœ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ „์ฒด ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” 388์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋ก.

โ€ข **์ค‘๊ตญ ๋งค์ถœ ๋น„์ค‘ ์•ˆ์ •ํ™”, ๋น„EUV ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๋ณดํ•ฉ ์ „๋ง**: 2026๋…„ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ง€์—ญ ๋งค์ถœ ๋น„์ค‘์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ค€ ์•ฝ 20% ์ˆ˜์ค€ ์œ ์ง€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ. ๋น„EUV ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์ „๋…„๊ณผ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋ง๋˜๋‚˜, ๋ฉ”ํŠธ๋กค๋กœ์ง€ ๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์˜ ๊ณต์ • ์ œ์–ด ํˆฌ์ž ํ™•๋Œ€๋กœ ํฐ ํญ ์„ฑ์žฅ


โ“ Q&A

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Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our first questions come from C.J. Muse from Cantor Fitzgerald.**Operator:** 200000

[์šด์˜์ž ์•ˆ๋‚ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์บ”ํ„ฐ ํ”ผ์ธ ์ œ๋Ÿด๋“œ์˜ C.J. ๋ฎค์ฆˆ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christopher Muse: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division So I guess first question, trying to better understand your outlook for calendar '26. Based on your EUV bookings, it looks like you're entering the year with about 114 Low NA-tools and your implied guide is about 56, give or take, Low NA. So is this a function of lack of certainty around the precise timing of clean room space adds? Are you facing challenges in sourcing lenses from Carl Zeiss? Are you seeing extension of lead times? Would love to hear your thoughts around those moving parts.**Christopher Muse:** 2026๋…„ ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ํ˜„ํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์—ฐ์ดˆ์— ์•ฝ 114๋Œ€์˜ Low NA ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ณ , ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์•ฝ 56๋Œ€ ์ •๋„์˜ Low NA๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ์ฆ์„ค์˜ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์นผ ์ž์ด์Šค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ Œ์ฆˆ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ์— ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ์—ฐ์žฅ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Yes, C.J., indeed, I think it's a number of the things I just called out, right? So obviously, we are ramping during the year to accommodate the demand is there. but the demand is also a little bit dependent on the progress that our customers are making in terms of the completion of their fabs during the year. So that's an important element in the bandwidth, if you like, of the guidance that we provide. So to a large extent, it's driven by that. It's driven by our ability to execute and to continuously ramp or move rate quarter-on-quarter. Those, I would say, are the most important drivers of the corridor that you just alluded to.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๋„ค, C.J., ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฐ์ค‘ ๋žจํ”„์—…(ramp-up)์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์—ฐ์ค‘ ํŒน(fab) ์™„๊ณต์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์†๋„์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ฒ”์œ„์—์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฒฐ์ •๋˜๋ฉฐ, ๋™์‹œ์— ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋žจํ”„์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋Š˜๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ฒ”์œ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋™์ธ(ๅ‹•ๅ› )์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christopher Muse: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division Great. And as a follow-up, I guess, on the High NA side, is there any change in terms of your vision for revenue in 4 to 7 tools in calendar '26? And then more importantly, how are you thinking about adoption? Do you think there's an opportunity for follow-on High NA orders in the second half? And could we be surprised by seeing DRAM adopt sooner than logic?**Christopher Muse:** ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ High NA ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์—ฌ์ญ™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„์— 4~7๋Œ€ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „๋ง์— ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋„์ž… ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ High NA ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋กœ์ง๋ณด๋‹ค DRAM์ด ๋” ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

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2026๋…„ 4~7๋Œ€ ์žฅ๋น„ ์ถœํ•˜ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์œ ํšจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋…ผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณ„ํš์— ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋„์ž… ์‹œ๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ๊ณผ ์–‘์‚ฐ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต๊ณผ ํˆฌ์ž ๊ฒฐ์ •์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ธด๋ฐ€ํžˆ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง์˜ ๋„์ž… ์ˆœ์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‘ ๋ถ„์•ผ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ High NA ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ๊ณผ ์ œํ’ˆ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์–ด๋А ์ชฝ์ด ๋จผ์ € ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์ž…ํ• ์ง€๋Š” ์•„์ง ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์–‘์ชฝ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ํ‰๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ™œ๋ฐœํžˆ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์€ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Well, I think there's no major changes compared to what we discussed last quarter, C.J. So I think that in terms of adoption, I mentioned it, we continue to see good progress at both DRAM and logic customer. I think some of our customers are even starting to play with limited product wafer to see the performance of the tool, which is a good news. We still expect a lot of those qualification data collection to last most of the year, which means that when it comes to decision for insertion new order, we indeed look at the second half of this year, 2027. On the question if it's going to be DRAM or logic first, I think -- well, it's a bit of a neck-to-neck race right now. So hard to say. We see really good progress on both and the appetite to test the technology, I would say, in the coming months, sorry, on -- again, on product in both DRAM and Logic customers.**Christophe Fouquet:** ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋…ผ์˜ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ํฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„์ž… ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ œํ•œ์ ์ธ ์–‘์‚ฐ ์›จ์ดํผ๋กœ ์žฅ๋น„ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์‹ ํ˜ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ ์ž‘์—…์€ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์‹ ๊ทœ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋„์ž… ๊ฒฐ์ •๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด 2027๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง ์ค‘ ์–ด๋А ์ชฝ์ด ๋จผ์ € ๋„์ž…ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ถ„์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๋ง‰์ƒ๋ง‰ํ•˜๋กœ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋А ์ชฝ์ด ๋จผ์ €์ผ์ง€ ๋‹จ์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ถ„์•ผ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ง„์ „์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์›” ๋‚ด์— ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์˜์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง(Logic) ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board And maybe a final comment too, C.J., because you referenced, I think, 114 tools in the backlog, if I understood you correctly on EUV. I would tell you, I think that's a little bit on the high end at EUR 25.5 billion of total value of EUV, I think -- and that obviously includes also High NA. You might be a little bit on the high end of your unit number there.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  C.J.๋‹˜, ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋” ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, EUV ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์— 114๋Œ€์˜ ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์น˜๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋†’์€ ํŽธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ „์ฒด ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ 255์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์ธ๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ High NA๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€์ˆ˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋†’๊ฒŒ ์žก์œผ์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the next questions come from the line of Joe Quatrochi from Wells Fargo.**Operator:** 25000

์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ Wells Fargo์˜ Joe Quatrochi๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Joseph Quatrochi: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division I guess I wanted to just go back to the 2026 kind of revenue growth guidance. If I look at the range between 4% and 19% growth, what type of those variables, I guess, are ASML controlled versus your customers controlled?**Joseph Quatrochi:** Wells Fargo Securities ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ฃผ์‹  2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4%์—์„œ 19% ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋ฒ”์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋“ค ์ค‘ ASML์ด ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Joe, I think I just said it, right? I mean it's obviously to a very large extent, driven by the progress that our customers are making in completing the fabs and their ability to take in the tool. So that's a significant one in terms of whether the demand falls in '26 or whether it falls a little bit beyond '26. And then, of course, there is our ability to execute, but it all starts with our ability -- with the ability of our customers to get the fabs in order and the episodes in order in due time. So it's a bit of a combination of both, I would argue.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ํŒน ๊ฑด์„ค์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ง„์ „๋˜๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ขŒ์šฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ 26๋…„์— ๋ฐœ์ƒํ• ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 26๋…„์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ• ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์š”์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ํŒน๊ณผ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ ์‹œ์— ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์ธ์ด ๋ณตํ•ฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Joseph Quatrochi: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Okay. So I guess just maybe as a follow-up, just can you remind us just how do we think about the manufacturing capacity capabilities in terms of just like the number of Low NA EUV tools? I know you've had some targets out there from some Analyst Days previously, but maybe just an update there.**Joseph Quatrochi:**

๋„ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ, Low NA EUV ์žฅ๋น„ ๋Œ€์ˆ˜์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•œ ์ œ์กฐ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ด์ „ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ์ด์—์„œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ˜น์‹œ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ์ง€์š”.

R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Yes, Joe. So what we've done, and this is the way we talked about it in the past, we have put in infrastructure such that we can respond, let's say, within a 12 months or a little over that to demand. So that means that what we call the long lead time items, anything that takes a lot longer than, let's say, 12 to 18 months, that is in place. So we have a clean room in place. We have the equipment in place et cetera, et cetera. So now what we're doing based on the stronger demand signals as we've gotten them in the past couple of months, now we're ramping up our capacity. Now you will appreciate you won't move from 44 EUV tools in 1 year to -- I'm just throwing it out -- 80 tools in the year thereafter, right? So obviously, that's a gradual process. And that's the process that we're doing. So you will see us increase our move rate quarter-on-quarter. So training -- getting the people in, training the people, et cetera, et cetera. And in that way, quarter-on-quarter, you will see an increase on the move rate, and we will do that hand-in-hand with our supply chain. So you will see the move rate increase during 2026. And in all likelihood of what we're seeing today is sustainable. You will continue to see that also beyond '26.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๋„ค, ์กฐ. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์˜จ ๋ฐฉ์‹, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์€ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ 12๊ฐœ์›”, ๋˜๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊ธด ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด, ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ๊ธด ํ•ญ๋ชฉ๋“ค, ์ฆ‰ 12๊ฐœ์›”์—์„œ 18๊ฐœ์›” ์ด์ƒ ์†Œ์š”๋˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ๋„ ๊ฐ–์ถฐ์ ธ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์žฅ๋น„๋„ ์„ค์น˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•œ ํ•ด์— EUV ์žฅ๋น„ 44๋Œ€์—์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ํ•ด์— ๋ฐ”๋กœ 80๋Œ€๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ. ์ด๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ ์ง„์ ์ธ ๊ณผ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์ด์ฃ . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ๋ ฅ ์ฑ„์šฉ, ๊ต์œก ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ์˜ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฑฐ์น˜๋ฉด์„œ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ด๋™๋ฅ  ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง๊ณผ ๊ธด๋ฐ€ํžˆ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 2026๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด๋™๋ฅ ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ง€์† ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, 26๋…„ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We will now take our next question. And the questions come from the line of Andrew Gardiner from Citi.**Operator:** ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์”จํ‹ฐ์˜ Andrew Gardiner๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Andrew Gardiner: Citigroup Inc., Research Division Christophe, Roger, you've spoken today about the customers' medium-term plans being revised up. I mean we can see that too in their public statements around revenue growth and CapEx for the coming years. In particular, from your biggest customer in TSMC, you said CapEx will be significantly higher for the next few years. And I mean some of that's quite clearly reflected in the record order intake that you just reported, but also quite clearly, not all of it. And I'm just wondering in terms of the plans you just outlined, Roger, in terms of increasing that move rate over the coming quarters, how much more visibility are the customers providing you in terms of the equipment needs for next year and the year after? I mean, no one wants to be the bottleneck in the kind of growth that we're seeing in this industry, and I presume that goes for you guys as well, and you must be having those conversations with the customers. So can you give us any insight as to how that visibility is improving into next year and the year after?**Andrew Gardiner:** ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘์žฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ƒํ–ฅ ์กฐ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์”€์„ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋„ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ(CapEx)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๊ท€์‚ฌ์˜ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธ TSMC๋Š” ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ž๋ณธ์ง€์ถœ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฐํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ์— ๋ณด๊ณ ํ•˜์‹  ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์‹ค์ ์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋™์‹œ์— ์ „๋ถ€ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋กœ์ €๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์‹  ๊ณ„ํš, ์ฆ‰ ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ณ„ํš๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์—ฌ์ญ™๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ์š”, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๋…„๊ณผ ๋‚ดํ›„๋…„ ์žฅ๋น„ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?

์ €ํฌ๋„ ์ด ์‚ฐ์—…์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ์˜ ๋ณ‘๋ชฉ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚ด๋…„๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ํ•ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์„ฑ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?

R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board I think the public commentary of customers on the sustainability of the -- particularly the AI-related demand that they see on advanced logic and on memory, I think they also share that in the conversations with us. And of course, that also translates into indications that they provide to us either for very concrete orders or what we call from demand. So their indication of how they see the demand develop. I think the order intake in Q4, I think, is strong evidence of that conversation and that it's not just a conversation, but they're actually also putting evidence and money into that. But they're also talking beyond this year about what their expectations are, I would say, in particular for '27. So our move rate plans that we have also takes that element into consideration. So what they tell us, I think direction is very much in line with what they say publicly. But of course, they also give us a strong indication of how they see their demand develop year-on-year.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” AI ๊ด€๋ จ ์ˆ˜์š”์˜ ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ, ํŠนํžˆ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง๊ณผ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์™€์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ๋„ ๋™์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ด๋Š” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด๋‚˜ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ „๋ง์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ณต๋˜๋Š” ์ง€ํ‘œ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ „๊ฐœ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์‹ค์ ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ๊ทธ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์™€ ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ ํŠนํžˆ 2027๋…„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋™๋ฅ  ๊ณ„ํš๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ฑ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ์ผ์น˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ž์‚ฌ์˜ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management And maybe the one thing I'd add to that, Andrew, I think you have to be aware that -- so you have seen indeed our customer moving being far more vocal about their capacity planning. I think this has been also the results of many, many discussions with their customers, which are also providing, I would say, this midterm demand. So what we have seen really in the last 3 months in the alignment between the different parties that on the midterm, as Roger explained, we see basically a strong buildup of demand. And we have got many, many proof of that also in the last few weeks coming out of either logic or DRAM customers. So I think it took a bit of why to really get to that point. But we really see that happening very strongly in the last few weeks. And I think this is aligned across a large part of the ecosystem.**Christophe Fouquet:** ์ง€๋‚œ 3๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ ๋‹น์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์œจ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ™•์ธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๋กœ์ €๊ฐ€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ค‘๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋กœ์ง์ด๋‚˜ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋“ค์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ค๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด ์•ค๋“œ๋ฅ˜, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‚ฌ์˜ ์„ค๋น„ ํˆฌ์ž ๊ณ„ํš์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ํ‘œ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์™€ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋…ผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์นœ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค ์—ญ์‹œ ์ค‘๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์š” ์ „๋ง์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ผ์น˜๋œ ์–‘์ƒ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Alexander Duval from Goldman Sachs.**Operator:** ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณจ๋“œ๋งŒ์‚ญ์Šค์˜ ์•Œ๋ ‰์‚ฐ๋” ๋“€๋ฐœ ๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Alexander Duval: Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Firstly, on 2026, I wanted to just go back to assumptions for the top end of your sales guidance. I was curious to what extent that would assume that China is meaningfully down. And then going back to the discussion about long-term capacity. You've obviously talked about customers being more confident on midterm demand and the longer-term situation. I think in the capacity planning you've done in the past, you talked about 80 to 90 EUV tools. But if we think very much towards the 2030 time frame, the kind of plans that the customers are talking about would imply something bigger than that. So what kind of lead time would be required for you to push beyond that kind of outcome? And would there be other means through which you could deliver the capacity needed, for example, making your tools more productive by investing in R&D?**Alexander Duval:** 2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ์ƒ๋‹จ ๊ฐ€์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋จผ์ € ์—ฌ์ญ™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ •์ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋…ผ์˜๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์š”์™€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๊ณ„ํš์—์„œ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ 80~90๋Œ€์˜ EUV ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 2030๋…„ ์‹œ์ ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณ„ํš๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ํ•„์š”ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋„ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ(R&D)์— ํˆฌ์žํ•ด์„œ ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board So when it comes to the top end of the expectation, when we talk about China being 20% of sales, I would argue that's across the entire range, right? So -- which obviously means that if we're talking about EUR 39 billion, you're looking at approximately EUR 8 billion of China. So I would say that probably, our expectation on China probably moves with that. If you look at what are the key expectations on the upside of that? Well, a, as we just said, it means that our customers indeed are able to take our tools that we're able to execute on it as we currently plan and probably also that the installed base business is running on all cylinders, particularly on upgrades. Which is not illogical because upgrades obviously are in very high demand right now because it's the easiest, fastest and most effective way for customers to get additional capacity, which in the current market is obviously very, very important to them. So those would be the key elements that I would say that would drive that. And in that model, you could also envisage a China market at 20% of that total sales number. When you talk about the long-term demand, let me make a few comments and then Christophe, maybe you can weigh in. First, you should not forget that when we get to the 2030 time frame, obviously, at that stage, yes, we're looking at Low NA, but we're also definitely looking at High NA. And the Low NA tools that we would be providing at that point in time would, of course, be Low NA tools with, again, a higher throughput than what we have today. So back to your question on R&D, absolutely. We will continue to push the road map on our Low NA tools and continue to drive capacity such that per tool, the customers get more productivity than what they get today. But also, at that stage, we expect a more meaningful number of High NA tools that would provide significant additional output capacity. And in that combination, I think the numbers that you were just throwing out I think will provide output capability to customers way ahead of the numbers that we're talking about today.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜์˜ ์ƒ๋‹จ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 20%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ๋ฒ”์œ„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ ์šฉ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 390์–ต ์œ ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ์•ฝ 80์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋„ ์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์›€์ง์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒ๋‹จ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฒซ์งธ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ณ„ํš๋Œ€๋กœ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ธฐ์กด ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜(installed base) ์‚ฌ์—…๋„ ํŠนํžˆ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋™๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋น„๋…ผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ๋น ๋ฅด๋ฉฐ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์ด๊ณ , ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์•ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋™์ธ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ชจ๋ธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 20%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์žฅ๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  Christophe๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์ถฉํ•ด์ฃผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ €, 2030๋…„ ์‹œ์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด Low NA๋งŒ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์—๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ High NA๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  Low NA ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ํ˜„์žฌ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋Ÿ‰(throughput)์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ Low NA ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ R&D ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด, ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Low NA ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์„ ๊ณ„์† ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œ์ผœ์„œ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์žฅ๋น„ ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋‹น ํ˜„์žฌ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” High NA ์žฅ๋น„๋„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋Ÿ‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋˜๋ฉด, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๋Š” ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Yes. I think Roger said it all. I think the way I will summarize it is that we have, I would say, the flexibility to react to the development of the market. I think we talked about mid, short term already. I think it's also true on the long term. And yes, Roger is right. The contribution of High NA, the work, we continue to do on productivity, we already planned for that, will give us even additional flexibility. So with the step we have done on our capability on EUV, Deep UV in the last few years, which, you remember, we did execute despite the fact that maybe the demand was a bit lower at some point. We have created basically the right flexibility to see the market coming.**Christophe Fouquet:** ๋„ค, Roger๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์‹œ์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ ์ „๊ฐœ์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Roger์˜ ๋ง์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. High NA์˜ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋„์™€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์—…๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ณ„ํš๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ EUV์™€ Deep UV ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ฐ•ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ทจํ•œ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด - ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹œ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋‚ฎ์•˜์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹คํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Krish Sankar from TD Cowen.**Operator:** 5000

์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TD Cowen์˜ Krish Sankar ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Sreekrishnan Sankarnarayanan: TD Cowen, Research Division I had 2 of them. First one, Roger, if I try to reconcile your bookings between EUV and memory. Typically, memory has been 30% of the EUV mix. So it looks like a big jump in the memory orders last quarter was driven by Deep UV. Is that fair? And then on EUV for memory, for 1C node DDR5, are we talking about 7 to 8 EUV exposures or lower than that? And then I had a follow-up.**Sreekrishnan Sankarnarayanan:** ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๋กœ์ €, EUV์™€ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ„ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ •ํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ EUV ๋ฏน์Šค์˜ 30%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์˜ ํฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋Š” Deep UV์— ์˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ๋„๋œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ์šฉ EUV ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, 1C ๋…ธ๋“œ DDR5์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ EUV ๋…ธ๊ด‘์ด 7~8ํšŒ ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์€์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Let me take the first one, and Christophe can take the second one. No, I think the order intake for memory is strong, but not just Deep UV, also EUV. And in all likelihood, if we look at the composition of our sales in 2026, you will see a major memory play in there. So the demand in '26 is far more balanced in terms of Logic versus Memory than it was in 2025. So that's what you see. But this is not just Deep UV, this is definitely also EUV.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” Christophe๊ฐ€ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, Deep UV๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ EUV๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํด ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 2026๋…„ ์ˆ˜์š”๋Š” 2025๋…„์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๋กœ์ง(Logic)๊ณผ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ(Memory) ๊ฐ„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ท ํ˜•์žกํžŒ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Š” Deep UV๋งŒ์˜ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ EUV์—์„œ๋„ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถ”์„ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Yes. And I think on EUV, I think when it comes to DRAM, I think we are going to benefit both from, of course, the demand for capacity, which we already discussed is very strong this year, most probably beyond that. And we have been talking about the number of EUV layers increasing on DRAM. This has been one of our focus. We have seen that happening in 2025. We continue to see that happening. I mentioned it in the introduction on 6 F-square but also on 4 F-square. And this is a bit of what I would call the perfect storm because when it comes to EUV as a result, DRAM share most probably will increase over time. So this is a very good dynamic on DRAM. Which, again, based on all the work we do with our customer discussion we have, we don't see stopping. So there's still some leeway for more EUV layers for more litho intensity on DRAM for sure. And we should benefit from that in the years to come.**Christophe Fouquet:** ๋„ค, EUV์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, DRAM์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ˆ˜ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์บํŒŒ์‹œํ‹ฐ(capa) ์ˆ˜์š”์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ๋…ผ์˜ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ๋„ ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” DRAM์—์„œ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณ„์† ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€๊ณ ์š”. 2025๋…„์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์ƒ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋‘์—์„œ 6F-square๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ 4F-square์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ EUV์—์„œ DRAM์˜ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DRAM์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์—ญํ•™๊ตฌ์กฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋…ผ์˜๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘์—…์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๋Š” ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DRAM์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด์™€ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ˆ˜ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Sreekrishnan Sankarnarayanan: TD Cowen, Research Division Got it. Got it. And as a quick follow-up, sorry to get back to this manufacturing capacity. Is it fair to assume your EUV manufacturing capacity is around maybe 70 units? And does that potentially constrain your growth next year? The reason I'm asking is that is your manufacturing capacity limit crossing movement of tools between this year and next year, leading to a wide range of revenue guidance for '26?**Sreekrishnan Sankarnarayanan:** ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃ„์†กํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ์กฐ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ฌ์ญ™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ œ์กฐ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์ด ์•ฝ 70๋Œ€ ์ •๋„๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๋…„ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ์ œ์•ฝํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ์ญ™๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š”, ์ œ์กฐ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌํ•ด์™€ ๋‚ด๋…„ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์žฅ๋น„ ์ด๋™์„ ์ œํ•œํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ 26๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ฒ”์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋„“์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Krish, as I said, our capacity is very dynamic because you -- we cannot move from one point to the other, just like that in one quarter, right? So that's why I said we had 44 units -- revenue units of EUV Low NA last year. You cannot go from one quarter to the other even from 1 year to the other from 44 to 80. So we will crank it up. Every quarter, you will see us increase move rate, you will see us increase capacity. And if the demand signals remain as strong as they are, that will continue into 2027 as well. And then I would say 70 would not be the limit that I would certainly be looking at. I think that is higher.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ํฌ๋ฆฌ์‰ฌ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด ์ €ํฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋™์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ฒจ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž‘๋…„์— EUV Low NA ๋งค์ถœ ์œ ๋‹›์ด 44๋Œ€์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋กœ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด 1๋…„์—์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ํ•ด๋กœ 44๋Œ€์—์„œ 80๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ ค๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ด๋Š” 2027๋…„๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด 70๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ํ•œ๊ณ„๋Š” ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Mehdi Hosseini from Susquehanna Financial Group.**Operator:** ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Susquehanna Financial Group์˜ Mehdi Hosseini ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Mehdi Hosseini: Susquehanna Financial Group, LLLP, Research Division My first one has to do with just the capacity that Roger, you just highlighted. I want to better understand EUV capacity, and the topic that has been around since the 2021 when last time we had the shortages. I want to better understand what are the key factors. As you ramp the EUV capacity, is that going to impact the booking trend? In other words, are your customers actually waiting to have a conviction of you adding incremental capacity before they commit to booking or backlog that will be shippable in '27 and beyond? And I have a follow-up.**Mehdi Hosseini:** ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ข€ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ๋ฒˆ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ๋ถ€์กฑ ์‚ฌํƒœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ 2021๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์† ๋…ผ์˜๋˜์–ด ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜์‹ค ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ์ถ”์„ธ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด์„œ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ 27๋…„ ์ดํ›„ ์ถœํ•˜ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋‚˜ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ(backlog)๋ฅผ ํ™•์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๊ท€์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board No. I don't think, Mehdi, that's what is going on. Customers know what we're doing. We share pretty openly with customers how we're looking at our ability to increase. I think customers appreciate that we've built in far more flexibility into our model than what we had before. If anything, if customers start to smell that for a certain year, you might be supply constrained, actually, the dynamic is the other way around. They want to make sure that they get their booking in before they are too late, right? So as a matter of fact, I would say, if they believe that the capacity might become a choke point, then they will jump to put in the orders. So I think it's more that than that they're waiting for a definitive confirmation that the capacity is there. But we'll very openly share with them what our plans are. And again, they appreciate the flexibility that we've built in and the significant reduction of response time that we have created as a result of creating the long lead time items.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋ฉ”๋””, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฆ์„ค ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํˆฌ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์œ ์—ฐํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋†’์ด ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ํŠน์ • ์—ฐ๋„์— ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์ œ์•ฝ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ญ๋™ํ•™์ด ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ฃ . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ(capacity)์ด ๋ณ‘๋ชฉ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๋ฉด, ์„œ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋„ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ํ™•๋ณด๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ํ™•์ธ์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ๋” ํฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๋งค์šฐ ํˆฌ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„ ํ’ˆ๋ชฉ๋“ค์„ ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ํ™•๋ณดํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋Œ€์‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋Œ€ํญ ๋‹จ์ถ•์‹œํ‚จ ์ ์„ ๋†’์ด ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Mehdi Hosseini: Susquehanna Financial Group, LLLP, Research Division Okay. Great. And I want to go back to the comments in the transcript that was posted with the earnings report. There was a comment that some of the bookings will be shippable in '27. So the question that I have is, what would it take for you to hit the high end of revenue guide for this year? Is that the China? I'm assuming that China backlog has a shorter lifetime. And to that extent, is that the China that is going to impact your ability to hit the high end of your revenue guide range?**Mehdi Hosseini:** ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์˜ ์ƒ๋‹จ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์š”๊ฑด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฒŒ์‹œ๋œ ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๊ฑด๋“ค์€ 2027๋…„์— ์ถœํ•˜๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ์ƒ๋‹จ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ ์—ฌ๋ถ€๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์š”์ธ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ(backlog)์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ์งง์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค ๋ ˆ์ธ์ง€์˜ ์ƒ๋‹จ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ์˜ ์ ์‹œ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘˜์งธ, ์—ฐ๋‚ด ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋œ ๊ฑด๋“ค์˜ ์‹ ์†ํ•œ ์ถœํ•˜ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ์—ฌ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๊ด€๊ฑด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ค‘๊ตญ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๊ฑด๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์งง์€ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ๊ณผ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๋ฏน์Šค์™€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์ธ๋„ ์ผ์ • ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ ๋“ฑ ๋ณตํ•ฉ์ ์ธ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board I think I said it. I think first and foremost, it's the readiness of our customers to take tools. I think that is number one. So their ability to complete fab construction, put the pedestals and take our tools. I think that's constraint number one. Constraint number two, our ability to execute. So I just talked about what we're doing to increase the ramp. We're comfortable with that. But of course, everyone needs to sing from the same song sheet, not just us, but also the supply chain. So we got to make sure that everyone is tuned into the same ramp that we have in place. So that would be the second one. So that would be more of a supply factor. On the demand side, I think it's the demand for upgrades, and I gave some color on that earlier on. And as I mentioned on China, I think in our guidance, China is 20% of revenue. So China would breathe along with the corridor that we have given.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”. ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ์žฅ๋น„ ์ˆ˜์šฉ ์ค€๋น„ ์ƒํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ํŒน ๊ฑด์„ค์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ณ , ํŽ˜๋ฐ์Šคํƒˆ(pedestal)์„ ์„ค์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ œ์•ฝ ์š”์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ œ์•ฝ ์š”์ธ์€ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋žจํ”„์—…(ramp-up)์„ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ด€๊ณ„์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์›€์ง์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„ํšํ•œ ๋žจํ”„์—… ์ผ์ •์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์š”์ธ์ด๊ณ , ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์˜ ์š”์ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์š” ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์—์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ์€ ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 20%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ๋„ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์‹œํ•œ ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์›€์ง์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Didier Scemama from Bank of America.**Operator:** ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฑ…ํฌ์˜ค๋ธŒ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ๋””๋””์— ์Šค์ผ€๋งˆ๋งˆ ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Didier Scemama: BofA Securities, Research Division I'm just asking about 4 F-square and DRAM really. So I think Christophe, you mentioned in your press release that you see in your interaction with DRAM customers that, in fact, DUV and EUV layer count could go up with 4 F-square. So I'm just wondering, obviously, there is a school of thought in the market that 4 F-square would lead to a cliff in EUV demand from DRAM customers whenever we see 4 F-square introduction, say, 2028. So is that a risk that you think is significantly diminishing because obviously, the view is reuse of tool capacity? Or do you think that now as the EUV layer count goes up and there is also a view that now wafer capacity in DRAM is going to have to expand dramatically over the course of the next 5 years because of Edge AI and more complex LLMs, that effectively this risk of a cliff and significant reuse of EUV tools is effectively really diminishing dramatically. I've got a follow-up as well.**Didier Scemama:** 4 F-square์™€ DRAM์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Christophe๊ป˜์„œ ๋ณด๋„์ž๋ฃŒ์—์„œ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๊ต๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด 4 F-square์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ DUV์™€ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š” 4 F-square๊ฐ€ ๋„์ž…๋˜๋ฉด, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด 2028๋…„๊ฒฝ์— DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ EUV ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ๊ธ‰๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒฌํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์žฅ๋น„ ์žฌ์‚ฌ์šฉ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ , ์—ฃ์ง€ AI์™€ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ LLM์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ํ–ฅํ›„ 5๋…„๊ฐ„ DRAM ์›จ์ดํผ ์บํŒŒ๊ฐ€ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ „๋ง์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ, ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ํ•˜๋ฝ์ด๋‚˜ EUV ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ์žฌ์‚ฌ์šฉ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Yes. I'll try to answer all the points. So I think the first thing to say is, if you look at 4 F-square, the structure require more advanced litho mass. So that's the first thing. So you get basically to look at a more complex structure. And that structure is going to require more lithography. This is why we mentioned that both, in fact, the immersion and EUV will go up. Now you talk about a cliff a lot. Customers don't like cliff. Cliff are very bad for operation. What customers like is optimized technology over several nodes. And therefore, when we talk about EUV insertion with our customer, of course, the transition to 4 F-square is taken into account because no one wants to buy a lot of tools and be stuck with them. So cliff is never good for a customer when it comes to operation. And what you see happening with DRAM is that EUV basically has become a very handy tool to simplify processes, to simplify the number of steps, to simplify cycle time -- to reduce cycle time, sorry, and even to bring more capacity because if you have less mask, if you have less multi-patterning, you end up basically with more space in your fab. So EUV, I will say that the more DRAM customers use it, the more they like it because they get benefit on all those counts. And again, they want to include the cliff. So when we made the statement in our release, basically, it's really out of many, many discussions with customers. And I think that -- well, I don't know if the risk is going down. We never thought that the risk was pretty high, but I think we are very, very confident that, again, litho intensity will grow with 4 F-square, both on Deep UV and EUV. And as I said before, we see EUV number of layers continuing to grow both before and after this transition.**Christophe Fouquet:** ๋„ค, ๋ชจ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์€, 4 F-square ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ๋”์šฑ ์ง„๋ณด๋œ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ค„์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ๊ณต์ •์„ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นจ์ง€(immersion) ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ EUV ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด์ œ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ์šด์˜์— ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋…ธ๋“œ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ตœ์ ํ™”๋œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ EUV ๋„์ž…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ 4 F-square๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ๊ณ ๋ ค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋ฐœ๋ชฉ ์žกํžˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ž…์žฅ์—์„œ ์šด์˜์ƒ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DRAM์—์„œ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, EUV๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต์ •์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด๋ฉฐ, ์‚ฌ์ดํด ํƒ€์ž„์„ ๋‹จ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์šฉํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์‚ฌ์ดํด ํƒ€์ž„์„ ๋‹จ์ถ•ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ๋‹ค์ค‘ ํŒจํ„ฐ๋‹์ด ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๋ฉด, ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŒน ๋‚ด์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ EUV๋Š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ DRAM ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ๋งŒ์กฑํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ด์ ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ๊ธ‰๊ฒฉํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋„์ž๋ฃŒ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์–ธ๊ธ‰์„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋…ผ์˜์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”, ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์ ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ 4F-square ์ „ํ™˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ Deep UV์™€ EUV ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผ ์ง‘์•ฝ๋„(litho intensity)๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ „ํ™˜ ์ด์ „๊ณผ ์ดํ›„ ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์† ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Didier Scemama: BofA Securities, Research Division Very clear. So my follow-up is on the gross margin side. So I think perhaps one element of disappointments in the guide is the gross margin. And I think you mentioned the mix of EUV, Low NA. Obviously, immersion probably going to decline because of China and then also the, let's say, upgrades business and the sort of milestone payments that might not be as strong in '26. I'm just wondering, if you look into '27, do you think that your mix of Low NA EUV will sort of revert back to what you had said before, which is the majority will be 3800E? Or is there any reason why 3-nanometer capacity expansion will continue to grow into '27? I guess the immersion question on China is anyone's guess. But if you want to have this into an answer, I'm very happy to hear it.**Didier Scemama:** ๋งค์šฐ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์—์„œ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV์™€ Low NA์˜ ๋ฏน์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ƒํ™ฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์นจ์ง€(immersion) ์žฅ๋น„๋Š” ๊ฐ์†Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ , ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ผ์Šคํ†ค ํŽ˜์ด๋จผํŠธ๋„ 26๋…„์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 27๋…„์„ ์ „๋งํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, Low NA EUV ๋ฏน์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์— ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด 3800E๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 3๋‚˜๋…ธ ๊ณต์ • ์ฆ์„ค์ด 27๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ„์† ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ค‘๊ตญ ๊ด€๋ จ ์นจ์ง€ ์žฅ๋น„ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Didier, on the mix for EUV, customers liked our 3800 so much that they took as much as they could get in terms of 3800 rather than 3600 in '25. But of course, we had a number of 3600s that still needed to be completed that we had all the parts for. And those will be shipped in all likelihood in '26. So the '27, mix in terms of EUV should be substantially better. And also, at that point in time, we're probably looking at the next generation. So the EUV mix by '27 should be better than '26. And you're right, that is an important element because if you look at how we plan towards the 56% to 60% gross margin in 2030. It's pretty clear that new generations of Low NA EUV are critical in that regard. So the EUV mix in '27 will be better than it is in '26. Another mix effect that is in there indeed is on the Deep UV side. So quite a bit more dry rather than immersion. I would say, in all likelihood that is less a matter of demand, but it's supply, right? So on the supply side, we are constrained in terms of immersion for 2026. So it's in that result that with higher dry business and restrictions on the immersion side, that gives you a less favorable Deep UV mix that goes into the equation. And then an important swing factor because you still have a 2% bandwidth in the gross margin. An important element of the swing factor will be installed base and will be upgrade business. That gives you the moving parts, Didier.**R.J.M. Dassen:** EUV ๋ฏน์Šค ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด 3800 ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ 25๋…„์— 3600๋ณด๋‹ค 3800์„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ค€๋น„๋œ 3600 ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์•„์ง ์™„์„ฑ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ 26๋…„์— ์ถœํ•˜๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 27๋…„ EUV ๋ฏน์Šค๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์—๋Š” ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ์ œํ’ˆ๋„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 27๋…„ EUV ๋ฏน์Šค๋Š” 26๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2030๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  56~60% ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ Low NA EUV๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 2027๋…„์˜ EUV ๋ฏน์Šค๋Š” 2026๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฏน์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” Deep UV ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ์ด๋จธ์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋“œ๋ผ์ด ์žฅ๋น„ ๋น„์ค‘์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋†’์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„์—๋Š” ์ด๋จธ์ „ ์žฅ๋น„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์— ์ œ์•ฝ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋จธ์ „ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ œ์•ฝ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, Deep UV ๋ฏน์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋œ ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ๋ฐ˜์˜๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— 2% ๋ฐด๋“œํญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ณ€๋™ ์š”์ธ์€ ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜(installed base)๊ณผ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ์š” ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋””๋””์—.
Didier Scemama: BofA Securities, Research Division No, that's great. By the way, do you want to say what you think will be the rev rec on High NA in '26? Rev rec on High NA. The amount of High NA units.**Didier Scemama:**

์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ 2026๋…„ High NA์˜ ๋งค์ถœ ์ธ์‹(revenue recognition)์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? High NA์˜ ๋งค์ถœ ์ธ์‹ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. High NA ์œ ๋‹› ์ˆ˜๋Ÿ‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์š”.

R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Probably a bit more than we had this year, but I don't want to go into too much detail there.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Francois Bouvignies from UBS.**Operator:** 30000

์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. UBS์˜ ํ”„๋ž‘์ˆ˜์•„ ๋ถ€๋น„๋‹ˆ์—์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francois-Xavier Bouvignies: UBS Investment Bank, Research Division I have one for Christophe and one for Roger. I mean, the first one maybe is for Christophe on the High NA. I just wanted to get in more details in here. I mean we see the industry moving into a rush in terms of capacity both at TSMC and advanced logic, I should say, and the memory overall. And I was wondering if you have a rush in this capacity, could that delay the High NA adoption? Do you see some risk happening of delay in addition because the industry is simply too busy to add capacity that they don't want to add another risk in terms of transition. So I was just wondering if it's something that's possible?**Francois-Xavier Bouvignies:** ๋จผ์ € Christophe๊ป˜ High NA์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ์š”. ํ˜„์žฌ ์—…๊ณ„๊ฐ€ TSMC์™€ ์ฒจ๋‹จ ๋กœ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์บํŒŒ(capa, ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ) ํ™•์ถฉ์— ๋ฐ•์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์บํŒŒ ํ™•์ถฉ์ด ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๋ฉด High NA ๋„์ž…์ด ์ง€์—ฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์—…๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์บํŒŒ ์ถ”๊ฐ€์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”๋น ์„œ ์ „ํ™˜์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„ ๋„์ž…์ด ์ง€์—ฐ๋  ์œ„ํ—˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Well, I think from day 1, I've been talking about 3 phases of High NA adoption with R&D qualification for high-volume manufacturing, then insertion high-volume manufacturing with limited amount of layer and then the whole thing. And I would say that plan always provide basically the time to have a real qualification. So the acceleration you see today on capacity, of course, is on existing nodes that are ramping with known technology, and those nodes will call for the use of the existing product we ship today. So that's one, that's Deep UV, that's metrology inspection as we know it today. The preparation of High NA for the next node is such that it does leave the time if customers want to use it to insert it properly. So sometimes, maybe some of you could believe that 1, 2, 3 phases is a bit long, but this is, on the other hand, the way to secure the insertion on the node because once the decision is made to use it on the node, they really want to use it. They prepare the mask for it. They qualify the whole process with it. So it's very difficult to change your mind and say, "Hey, I'm going to go back to the whole stuff." So I think customers try to do those things in such a way that they are not too sensitive to either a major acceleration or slowdown of their capacity. So it's a long answer to say, no, basically. So we don't see a risk there.**Christophe Fouquet:** ์ €๋Š” ์ฒซ๋‚ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ High NA ๋„์ž…์˜ 3๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ R&D ๊ฒ€์ฆ ๋‹จ๊ณ„, ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ œํ•œ๋œ ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜๋กœ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์ƒ์‚ฐ์— ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ๊ณ„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ „์ฒด ์ ์šฉ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๊ฒ€์ฆ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ์บํŒŒ(capacity, ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ) ํ™•๋Œ€ ๊ฐ€์†ํ™”๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๊ฒ€์ฆ๋œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋กœ ๋žจํ”„์—…(ramp-up, ์–‘์‚ฐ ํ™•๋Œ€)๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ๋…ธ๋“œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋…ธ๋“œ๋“ค์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, Deep UV, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณ„์ธก ๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹ค์Œ ๋…ธ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ High NA ์ค€๋น„ ๊ณผ์ •์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” 1, 2, 3๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๊ธธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋…ธ๋“œ์— ์•ˆ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋‹จ ํŠน์ • ๋…ธ๋“œ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ „์ฒด ๊ณต์ •์„ ๊ฒ€์ฆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์„œ "์ด์ „ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฒ ๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‚ฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์„ค๋น„ ์ฆ์„ค์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐ์ถ•์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธธ๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ต์€ '์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋Š” ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Francois-Xavier Bouvignies: UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Perfect. And maybe, Roger, your question -- my question is for '26. I mean, if China is 20% of revenues, if we take the midpoint, it would imply China is down about 20%, 25% year-on-year, which is mainly in Deep UV. And you guided Deep UV flat for '26, which means non-China Deep UV needs to go up by 40% for [ 0 ] year-on-year kind of pool to get the flat Deep UV. And I remember last year, I guess it's kind of a deja vu, where last year, you said there is a strong correlation between the non-China Deep UV and EUV growth. But when I look at '25, your non-China Deep UV was actually not growing much compared to EUV. You had a big disconnect between the 2. So I was wondering if there was a catch-up somehow from '25 to '26. So just trying to understand why this year, you would see this strong growth happening and we didn't see that in '25.**Francois-Xavier Bouvignies:** ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋กœ์ €, ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ 26๋…„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ 20%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ค‘๊ฐ„๊ฐ’์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ 20%, 25% ๊ฐ์†Œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋”ฅUV(Deep UV)์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ 26๋…„ ๋”ฅUV๋ฅผ ๋ณดํ•ฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋”ฅUV๊ฐ€ ๋ณดํ•ฉ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋น„์ค‘๊ตญ ๋”ฅUV๊ฐ€ ์ „๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ 40% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„์—๋„ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ฐ์ž๋ท” ๊ฐ™์€ ๋А๋‚Œ์ธ๋ฐ์š”, ์ž‘๋…„์— ๋น„์ค‘๊ตญ ๋”ฅUV์™€ EUV ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ฐ„์— ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ด€๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ 25๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋น„์ค‘๊ตญ ๋”ฅUV๊ฐ€ EUV์— ๋น„ํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ์ง€ํ‘œ ๊ฐ„์— ํฐ ๊ดด๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 25๋…„์—์„œ 26๋…„์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ธฐ(catch-up) ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, 25๋…„์—๋Š” ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Yes, Francois, it's a really good question. And indeed, this is what we observed. So '24 was strong. Also on the non-China business, '24 was pretty strong also in the dry business for customers across the board. '25 disappointed a bit. If we look at '26, we see the market come back with our leading customers. Frankly, I think many of our customers are doing what we do, which is you put in the long lead time items, which, in our case, is more the EUV stuff, and you take a bit more flexibility in your shorter lead time items, which is the Deep UV business. I think that's what they've done for a significant part of the year. We actually could see the non-China Deep UV business come back in the last months of the year. And we frankly see that trajectory continue into 2026. So you're right. And that we found the '25 non-China Deep UV business disappoint. That is clearly the case. But we do see a reversal of that trend in the last months of the year and see that reversal continue into 2026.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ๋„ค, ํ”„๋ž‘์ˆ˜์•„, ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 24๋…„์€ ๊ฐ•์„ธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ ์‚ฌ์—…๋„ 24๋…„์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•์„ธ์˜€๊ณ , ๋“œ๋ผ์ด(dry) ์‚ฌ์—…๋„ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 25๋…„์€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 26๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฃผ์š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ๊ธด ํ’ˆ๋ชฉ๋“ค์„ ๋จผ์ € ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” EUV ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ , ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„์ด ์งง์€ ํ’ˆ๋ชฉ๋“ค, ์ฆ‰ Deep UV ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ๋Š” ์ข€ ๋” ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค๋„ ์—ฐ์ค‘ ์ƒ๋‹น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ทจํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฐ๋ง ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ Deep UV ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ 2026๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 25๋…„ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ Deep UV ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฐ๋ง ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ˜์ „๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฐ˜์ „์ด 2026๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Chris Caso from Wolfe Research.**Operator:** ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Wolfe Research์˜ Chris Caso๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Wolfe Research, LLC: My question is with regard to the expected timing of deliveries within the backlog. And you mentioned a few things in your earlier comments, including customers recognizing that, that capacity may be tight, there is availability of customer clean room space. I'm not sure you wish to quantify how much of the backlog is expected to ship in '26. But would you say that the timing of those expected deliveries is stretching out as compared to what's happened over the past few quarters?**Wolfe Research, LLC:** ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ๋‚ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ ์ธ๋„ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ ์ค‘ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ํƒ€์ดํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์šฉ์„ฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ ์ค‘ 26๋…„์— ์ถœํ•˜๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋Š” ๋น„์ค‘์„ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐํžˆ์‹ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์˜ˆ์ƒ ์ธ๋„ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด์„œ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board Our expectation is, Chris, that the second half will be stronger than the first half, but I would say that that's a function of what I just said, which is, a, the availability of fast pace of our customers; and b, our continuous quarter-on-quarter ramp of our move rate. So as a result of that, we expect it, for the second half, to be stronger than the first half of this year. That's the way we currently model our shipments in discussion with the customers. But clearly, quite a bit of the order intake that we had in Q4. And clearly, part of the backlog is for '27. That is pretty clear. And it is '27, right? So the majority -- the lion's share of the orders that came in, in Q4, some of it is '26, but the lion's share we use for '27.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ด๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์ธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ํŒน ๊ฐ€์šฉ์„ฑ์ด๊ณ , ๋‘˜์งธ๋Š” ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‚ฌ์˜ ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋กœ ์˜ฌํ•ด ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ถœํ•˜๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํ™•๋ณดํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ค‘ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฐฑ๋กœ๊ทธ(backlog)์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” 2027๋…„๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฑด ํ™•์‹คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2027๋…„๋ถ„์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด์˜จ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„, ์ฆ‰ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋น„์ค‘์€ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ 2026๋…„๋ถ„์ด๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ 2027๋…„๋ถ„์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ์šฉ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Wolfe Research, LLC: My follow-up question is with regard to gross margins, and you spoke about that a bit, but perhaps you could clarify what are the headwinds and tailwinds with respect to gross margin for this year? I presume that China is one factor. But what are the factors that cause you to be on the upper end or lower end of gross margins as you go through the year?**Wolfe Research, LLC:** ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์ง€๋งŒ, ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•œ ์—ญํ’๊ณผ ์ˆœํ’ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์„ ์ข€ ๋” ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ค‘๊ตญ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์š”์ธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์—ฐ์ค‘ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ์ƒ๋‹จ ๋˜๋Š” ํ•˜๋‹จ์— ์œ„์น˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์š”์ธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board I wouldn't say it's China per se. I would say it's immersion, right? So immersion tool is -- immersion is a significant contributor to the gross margin. As I mentioned before, we do expect the immersion sales this year to be below 2025, which is not the result of demand, but it's the result of supply constraints on the immersion side. So that is a bit of a drag. Then you see quite a bit of dry sales. As we said, we also expect the dry sales, which was fairly low in 2025. We already saw that reverse itself in the last months of the year, and we see that reversal will continue into this year. But dry tools come with lower gross margin. So that's a drag on the gross margin. On the EUV side, there is a bit of a mix effect because we have 3600 in the year that we didn't have that much in 2025. And then if we have a bit more High NA, then of course, that also comes with a slightly depressing effect on the gross margin. So that's all the negatives. In terms of all the positives, I would say, higher EUV numbers, right? So we're clearly looking at a significant step-up in the number of EUV tools this year. And that is margin accretive. So that's on the positive side. And as I mentioned, the big swing factor, as I look at it today is on installed base. And to the extent that the installed base will manifest itself in a positive way, high demand for upgrades, which at least theoretically, you could assume to be the case this year with all the appetite for capacity additions that our customers have, that should be helpful on the gross margin. So those are all the puts and takes, as I could see, it's for the gross margin this year, Chris.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ž์ฒด์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด๋จธ์ „(immersion) ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋จธ์ „ ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ด๋จธ์ „ ๋งค์ถœ์€ 2025๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š” ๋ถ€์กฑ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ด๋จธ์ „ ์ชฝ์˜ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์ œ์•ฝ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ถ€๋‹ด ์š”์ธ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋“œ๋ผ์ด(dry) ์žฅ๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, 2025๋…„์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋‚ฎ์•˜๋˜ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด ์žฅ๋น„ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ž‘๋…„ ๋ง ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฐ˜๋“ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฐ˜๋“ฑ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋„ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด ์žฅ๋น„๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ๋‚ฎ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „์ฒด ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์„ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์š”์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฏน์Šค ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2025๋…„์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ 3600 ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ์˜ฌํ•ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  High NA๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด, ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ ํ•˜๋ฝ ์••๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์š”์ธ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, EUV ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด EUV ์žฅ๋น„ ๋Œ€์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง„์— ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋Š” ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜(installed base) ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜(installed base)์ด ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ๋†’์•„์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ด๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์„ค๋น„ ์ฆ์„ค ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์›Œ๋‚™ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ , ๋ถ€์ •์  ์š”์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ด ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Chris.
Operator: We are now going to proceed to our next question. And the questions come from the line of Tammy Qiu from Berenberg.**Operator:** 30000

์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Berenberg์˜ Tammy Qiu ์• ๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๊ป˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Tammy Qiu: Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division So the first one is on Logic road map. So over the next few years, we do have A16, A14, A14C and A10. Can you confirm that for every single generation, are we still going to have EUV insertion of a couple of layers or some of the customers are really trying to minimize the incremental EUV layers, please?**Tammy Qiu:**

๋กœ์ง ๋กœ๋“œ๋งต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„ A16, A14, A14C, A10 ๋…ธ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ๊ฐ ์„ธ๋Œ€๋งˆ๋‹ค ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด์— EUV๊ฐ€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ ์šฉ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ตœ์†Œํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Well, so let me try to answer that. So I think if you look at the midterm. So we talked about 2-nanometer. Indeed, we're going to go to A16, which is very similar to 2-nanometer, to be honest. This is not a big difference. I will skip that. We see then basically EUV layers increasing again at A14. As we discussed in the past, most probably 10% to 20%. We see that being even more true for A10, where the structure change could call for even more EUV layers. So that's a bit the view we have all the way to A10. And in the discussion with our foundry customer, again, there's a lot of focus on that because this is key in enabling their future technology. So that's a bit where we -- what we see today on the foundries.**Christophe Fouquet:** ์ค‘์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด 2๋‚˜๋…ธ๋ฏธํ„ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ A16์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ๋ฐ, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด 2๋‚˜๋…ธ๋ฏธํ„ฐ์™€ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ A14์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋…ผ์˜ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 10%์—์„œ 20% ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. A10์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ถ”์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋”์šฑ ๋šœ๋ ทํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ตฌ์กฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋กœ ์ธํ•ด EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. A10๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „๋ง์ด ์ด ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋…ผ์˜์—์„œ๋„ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์ง‘์ค‘๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ตฌํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Tammy Qiu: Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division Okay. And I have a follow-up also on the capacity issue. So I remember that back in 2021, you were very clear about you would do 90 EUV tools and that is the capacity we need. Then of course, the unfortunate 2022 happened. So we took a pause of that. And it sounded like today, your capacity addition plan has been more cautious than you were previously. If there is any reason for that? Or just basically after 2022, it's better to take a cautious approach from a capacity perspective?**Tammy Qiu:** 2021๋…„์—๋Š” EUV ์žฅ๋น„ 90๋Œ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ 2022๋…„ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž ์‹œ ๋ฉˆ์ท„๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ์š”. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋“ค์œผ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์ €ํฌ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ์„ค ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์ด์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์…จ๋‚˜์š”? ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ 2022๋…„ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ์ ‘๊ทผ์ด ๋” ๋‚ซ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜์‹  ๊ฑด์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
R.J.M. Dassen: Executive VP, CFO & Member of the Management Board I think I tried to explain, but I guess I didn't completely succeed on that. So what I said is what we did in the earlier years of this decade is to put in what we call the long lead time items, which means that anything that takes more than, let's say, 12 to 18 months to get done, we did. Right? So we build additional factory. We put in equipment, et cetera, et cetera. So we build clean. So all of the things that take time, we did. So that's good news. So that gives you more flexibility. But as I mentioned before, you cannot from one year to the other, move from a move rate -- an annual move rate of 44 to 80 in 1 year time. It simply doesn't work because you need to take in people, you need to hire people, you need to train those people, and you cannot double that in 1 year's time. That needs to be a gradual approach. So this is the process that we're in right now because we also took a decision back in 2022, 2023, we're not going to put in people for an output of 90 because that would make no sense. They would have nothing to do, and it would be very, very costly. So we're gradually moving our move rate up. So does our supply chain, same story there. They're also gradually quarter-on-quarter moving up their move rate. And in that way, we will very meaningfully increase our capacity over what we had in last year. So that's what we're doing. So we have the structural big investments to get to [ 90, ] and now we're gradually moving our move rate up in order to move our integral capacity to cater to the demand. And we think that our increase in capacity goes nicely hand-in-hand with the completion of fabs by our customers, such that we will not be the limiting factor in them being able to increase their capacity.**R.J.M. Dassen:** ์ด๋ฒˆ 10๋…„ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์ผ์€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ(long lead time items)์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ 12๊ฐœ์›”์—์„œ 18๊ฐœ์›” ์ด์ƒ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋จผ์ € ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์žฅ์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ•˜๊ณ , ์žฅ๋น„๋ฅผ ์„ค์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ๋„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ๊ณ ์š”. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ํ•ด๋†“์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.

ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ž์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰์„ 1๋…„ ๋งŒ์— 44๋Œ€์—์„œ 80๋Œ€๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฑ„์šฉํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ต์œก์‹œ์ผœ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฑธ 1๋…„ ๋งŒ์— ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๊ณผ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2022๋…„, 2023๋…„์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฐ ๊ฒฐ์ •๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Ÿ‰ 90๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ํ•  ์ผ๋„ ์—†๊ณ , ๋น„์šฉ๋งŒ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.

๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์ฃ . ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™๋ฅ ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘๋…„ ๋Œ€๋น„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 90๊นŒ์ง€ ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์™„๋ฃŒํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ „์ฒด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ(integral capacity)์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ด๋™๋ฅ (move rate)์„ ์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋†’์—ฌ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ๋Œ€๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์˜ ํŒน(fab) ์™„๊ณต ์‹œ๊ธฐ์™€ ์ž˜ ๋งž๋ฌผ๋ ค ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์•ฝ ์š”์ธ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Christophe Fouquet: President, CEO and Chair of the Board of Management Yes, maybe to add to that to second for Roger on that. So I think what we said, back to 2026. So we said that the major factor, in fact, on tool delivery would be the execution of our customer because we have to realize a lot of decisions have been done in the last few months. And this also means that they are extremely active in putting capacity in place, et cetera, et cetera. And in 2026, as Roger said, we can nicely follow basically right now their whole ambition, which is good. When it comes to beyond 2026, as you know, the lead time on our EUV machine is at least 12 months, which means that as we speak, we are capable to have that discussion with our customer looking at next year, basically. And as we do that, we can adjust basically our planning exactly in the way Roger mentioned it. But so far, if we look at the short, midterm, we are capable to nicely follow basically what our customers are asking for. So I think I sense a bit some concerns that we may be the bottleneck basically for our customer, this is not the case, certainly not this year. And again, for next year, we have plenty of time to continue to follow basically their demand. So I just want to make that clear. I think what Roger described is the process and the flexibility we have thanks to the investment we have made on our indeed 90 capability for EUV, 600 for Deep UV to follow basically very carefully what our customers are going to need in the next few quarters.**Christophe Fouquet:** ๋„ค, ๋กœ์ €์˜ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์— ๋ง๋ถ™์ด์ž๋ฉด์š”. 2026๋…„์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์žฅ๋น„ ๋‚ฉํ’ˆ์— ์žˆ์–ด ์ฃผ์š” ์š”์ธ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฒฐ์ •๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ๊ณ , ์ด๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์บํŒŒ(์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ) ๊ตฌ์ถ• ๋“ฑ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์„œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2026๋…„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๋กœ์ €๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค์˜ ์ „์ฒด ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ž˜ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

2026๋…„ ์ดํ›„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €ํฌ EUV ์žฅ๋น„์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„(๋‚ฉ๊ธฐ)์ด ์ตœ์†Œ 12๊ฐœ์›”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‚ด๋…„์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ Roger๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‹จ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ค‘๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜น์‹œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ๋ณ‘๋ชฉ๊ตฌ๊ฐ„์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์šฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์–ด๋„ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ ์š”. ๋‚ด๋…„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ ์„ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Roger๊ฐ€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์œ ํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค์™€ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. EUV 90๋Œ€, Deep UV 600๋Œ€ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž ๋•๋ถ„์— ํ–ฅํ›„ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฉด๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Jim Kavanagh: Vice President of Investor Relations Okay. Unfortunately, we have run out of time. But if you were unable to get through on this call and still have questions, please feel free to contact the ASML Investor Relations department with your question. So now on behalf of ASML, I would like to thank you for joining the call with us today. Operator, if you could formally conclude the call, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.**Jim Kavanagh:** ์•„์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ •๋œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‹ค ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ „ํ™” ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…จ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€ ASML ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋ถ€์„œ๋กœ ์—ฐ๋ฝ ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ASML์„ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•˜์—ฌ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํผ๋ ˆ์ดํ„ฐ๋‹˜, ์ฝœ์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Operator: [indiscernible] 2025 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results Conference Call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.**Operator:** 2025๋…„ 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์„ ์ข…๋ฃŒํ•˜์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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# ASML 2025 Q4 ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค์  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์š”์•ฝ

## ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋‚ด์šฉ

โ€ข **2026๋…„ ๋งค์ถœ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค**: 390์–ต~420์–ต ์œ ๋กœ ์ œ์‹œ (4~19% ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋ฒ”์œ„). ๋ณ€๋™ํญ์ด ํฐ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ํŒน ์™„๊ณต ์‹œ๊ธฐ์™€ ASML์˜ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ๋Œ€ ์‹คํ–‰๋ ฅ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ. ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋งค์ถœ์€ ์ „์ฒด์˜ ์•ฝ 20% ์ˆ˜์ค€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ

โ€ข **EUV ์ˆ˜์ฃผ ๋ฐ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ**: Q4์— ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ 2027๋…„ ์ถœํ•˜ ์˜ˆ์ •. Low NA EUV๋Š” 2025๋…„ 44๋Œ€์—์„œ 2026๋…„ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ณ„ ์ฆ์‚ฐ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ ์ง„์  ํ™•๋Œ€ ๊ณ„ํš. ์žฅ๊ธฐ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํƒ€์ž„ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์™„๋ฃŒ๋˜์–ด 90๋Œ€ ์ด์ƒ ์ƒ์‚ฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ ํ™•๋ณด

โ€ข **High NA ์ง„ํ–‰์ƒํ™ฉ**: 2026๋…„ 4~7๋Œ€ ์ถœํ•˜ ์˜ˆ์ƒ. DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ œํ’ˆ ์›จ์ดํผ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์ง„์ž…ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 2027๋…„ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ ์žˆ์Œ. DRAM๊ณผ ๋กœ์ง ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํƒ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฐ•๋น™ ์ƒํƒœ

โ€ข **๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ฐ•์„ธ**: DRAM์—์„œ EUV ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์„ธ ์ง€์† (6Fยฒ ๋ฐ 4Fยฒ ๋…ธ๋“œ ๋ชจ๋‘). 4Fยฒ ์ „ํ™˜ ์‹œ์—๋„ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด DU