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| American Express Company (AXP) Q4 2025 Earnings Call January 30, 2026 8:30 AM EST Company Participants Kartik Ramachandran - Senior VP & Head of Investor Relations Stephen Squeri - Chairman & CEO Christophe Le Caillec - Chief Financial Officer Conference Call Participants Ryan Nash - Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Sanjay Sakhrani - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division Donald Fandetti - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division L. | # ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค(American Express Company, AXP) 2025๋
4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ 2026๋ 1์ 30์ผ ์ค์ 8์ 30๋ถ(๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋๋ถ ํ์ค์) ## ํ์ฌ ์ฐธ์์ **์นด๋ฅดํฑ ๋ผ๋ง์ฐฌ๋๋(Kartik Ramachandran)** - ์์ ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฒธ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์ฑ ์์ **์คํฐ๋ธ ์คํ๋ฆฌ(Stephen Squeri)** - ํ์ฅ ๊ฒธ CEO **ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ ๋ฅด ์นด์ด์ํฌ(Christophe Le Caillec)** - ์ต๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ ์์(CFO) ## ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์ฐธ์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ **๋ผ์ด์ธ ๋ด์ฌ(Ryan Nash)** - ๊ณจ๋๋ง์ญ์ค ๊ทธ๋ฃน, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ **์ฐ์ ์ด ์ฌํฌ๋ผ๋(Sanjay Sakhrani)** - ํคํ, ๋ธ๋ฃจ์ํธ ์ค ์ฐ์ฆ(KBW), ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ **๋๋๋ ํ๋ฐํฐ(Donald Fandetti)** - ์ฐ์คํ๊ณ ์ฆ๊ถ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ **L.** --- *[์ฐธ๊ณ : ์ ๊ณต๋ ํ ์คํธ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ๋๋๋ฏ๋ก, ์ค์ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๊ณ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ํ๊ตญ์ด๋ก ๋ฒ์ญํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธ์ต ์ฉ์ด๋ ์ ๊ณ ํ์ค ํ๊ตญ์ด ํํ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ฉฐ, ํ์์ ์๋ฌธ ์์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณ๊ธฐํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.]* |
| Erika Penala - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Richard Shane - JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Mark DeVries - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Craig Maurer - Financial Technology Partners LP Jeffrey Adelson - Morgan Stanley, Research Division John Pancari - Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Moshe Orenbuch - TD Cowen, Research Division Mihir Bhatia - BofA Securities, Research Division Brian Foran - Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division Cristopher Kennedy - William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Presentation Operator Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the American Express Q4 2025 Earnings Call. | # ๋ฐํ์ ๋ช
๋จ **์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ:** ์๋ฆฌ์นด ํ๋ ๋ผ - UBS ์ธ๋ฒ ์คํธ๋จผํธ ๋ฑ ํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ฆฌ์ฒ๋ ์ ฐ์ธ - JP๋ชจ๊ฑด ์ฒด์ด์ค, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋งํฌ ๋๋ธ๋ฆฌ์ค - ๋์ด์ฒด๋ฐฉํฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํฌ๋ ์ด๊ทธ ๋ง์ฐ๋ฌ - ํ์ด๋ธ์ ํ ํฌ๋๋ก์ง ํํธ๋์ค ์ ํ๋ฆฌ ์๋ธ์จ - ๋ชจ๊ฑด์คํ ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์กด ํ์นด๋ฆฌ - ์๋ฒ์ฝ์ด ISI ์ธ์คํฐํ์ ๋ ์ดํดํฐ์ค, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ชจ์ ฐ ์ค๋ ๋ถํฌ - TD ์ฝ์ฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ฏธํ๋ฅด ๋ฐํฐ์ - ๋ฑ ํฌ์ค๋ธ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด ์ํ๋ฆฌํฐ์ฆ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ธ๋ผ์ด์ธ ํฌ๋ - ํธ๋ฃจ์ด์คํธ ์ํ๋ฆฌํฐ์ฆ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํผ ์ผ๋ค๋ - ์๋ฆฌ์ ๋ธ๋ ์ด, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ --- # ๋ฐํ **์ฌํ์** ์ ์ฌ ์๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ ค ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค 2025๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Head of Investor Relations, Mr. Kartik Ramachandran. Thank you. Please go ahead. Kartik Ramachandran Senior VP & Head of Investor Relations Thank you, Donna, and thank you all for joining today's call. As a reminder, before we begin, today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance. These are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties. | [์งํ์ ์๋ด] ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ์ค๋ ํตํ๋ ๋
น์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์ฑ
์์์ด์ Kartik Ramachandran๋๊ป ํ์๋ฅผ ๋๊ฒจ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. Kartik Ramachandran ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์์ ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Donna. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์์ํ๊ธฐ ์ ์ ์ค๋ ๋ ผ์ ๋ด์ฉ์๋ ํ์ฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋ ์ฌ์ ๋ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ (forward-looking statements)์ด ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์์ ์๋ ค๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ํ์ฌ ์์์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ์ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are included in today's presentation slides and in our reports on file with the SEC. The discussion today also contains non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials as well as the earnings materials for the prior periods we discussed. All of these are posted on our website at ir.americanexpress.com. We'll begin today with Steve Squeri, Chairman and CEO, who will start with some remarks about the company's progress and results. | ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ง์ ๊ณผ ์ค๋ํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ฅผ ์ ์๋ ์์ธ๋ค์ ์ค๋ ๋ฐํ ์๋ฃ์ SEC์ ์ ์ถ๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ๋ ผ์ ๋ด์ฉ์๋ ๋น-GAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด ์งํ๋ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋น๊ต ๊ฐ๋ฅํ GAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด ์งํ๋ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์๋ฃ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ ผ์ํ๋ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ค์ ์๋ฃ์ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ์๋ฃ๋ ๋น์ฌ ์น์ฌ์ดํธ ir.americanexpress.com์ ๊ฒ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋์ ์คํฐ๋ธ ์คํ๋ฆฌ(Steve Squeri) ํ์ฅ ๊ฒธ CEO์ ํ์ฌ ์งํ ์ํฉ๊ณผ ์ค์ ์ ๋ํ ๋ฐ์ธ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| And then Christophe Le Caillec, Chief Financial Officer, will provide a more detailed review of our financial performance. After that, we'll move to a Q&A session on the results with both Steve and Christophe. With that, let me turn it over to Steve. Stephen Squeri Chairman & CEO Thank you, Kartik. Good morning, and welcome to our fourth quarter earnings call. We had another year of strong performance, continuing the momentum we delivered since introducing our long-term growth aspirations in January of 2022. Full year revenues were up 10% to a record $72 billion, and EPS was $15.38, up 15% over last year, excluding the Accertify gain. Card Member spending was strong throughout the year. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ CFO์ธ Christophe Le Caillec์ด ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํด ๋ณด๋ค ์์ธํ ๊ฒํ ํด ๋๋ฆด ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ํ, Steve์ Christophe ๋ ๋ถ๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ์ค์ ์ ๋ํ ์ง์์๋ต ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ Steve์๊ฒ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Stephen Squeri ํ์ฅ ๊ฒธ CEO ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Kartik. ์ข์ ์์นจ์ ๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 2022๋ 1์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ฐํํ ์ดํ ์ง์ํด์จ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๋ฉฐ ๋ ํ ํด ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ค์ ์ ๊ฑฐ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋งค์ถ์ 10% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ์ฌ์ ์ต๊ณ ์น์ธ 720์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, EPS๋ Accertify ๋งค๊ฐ ์ฐจ์ต์ ์ ์ธํ๊ณ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 15% ์ฆ๊ฐํ 15.38๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์นด๋ํ์ ์ง์ถ์ ์ฐ์ค ๋ด๋ด ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ํ๋ฆ์ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Card fee growth continued in double digits for 30 straight quarters, and we maintained excellent credit quality. Importantly, we continue to invest in areas that strengthen our Membership Model and drive our growth. For example, we continued our successful product refresh strategy with refreshes in close to a dozen countries around the world, including the launch of our new U.S. consumer and small business Platinum Cards. We renewed and expanded our relationships with key international co-brand partners, including British Airways, ANA and Air France-KLM. | ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ์ฑ์ฅ์ 30๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฐ์ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ์ํ ์ ์ฉ ํ์ง์ ์ ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ํ ์ ์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฉค๋ฒ์ญ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ๊ฐํํ๊ณ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ์์ญ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ๋ฐ ์๊ธฐ์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ์ถ์๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ์ฌ ์ ์ธ๊ณ ์ฝ 12๊ฐ๊ตญ์์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ ๋ต์ ์ง์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ British Airways, ANA, Air France-KLM์ ํฌํจํ ์ฃผ์ ๊ตญ์ ์ ํด ํํธ๋๋ค๊ณผ์ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ๊ฐฑ์ ํ๊ณ ํ๋ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| We continue to build our membership assets with new lounges, the expansion of our hotel network, the Toast partnership and a series of new Card Member experiences. And we expanded global merchant acceptance to over 170 million locations worldwide. And we continue to deliver innovative mobile experience. Turning to 2026 guidance. Given the strength and stability in our premium customer base, the momentum we're generating from our investments in the business and the flexibility we have to drive leverage in our business model, we expect 2026 revenue growth of 9% to 10% and EPS of $17.30 to $17.90. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋ก์ด ๋ผ์ด์ง, ํธํ
๋คํธ์ํฌ ํ์ฅ, Toast ํํธ๋์ญ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ผ๋ จ์ ์๋ก์ด ์นด๋ํ์ ๊ฒฝํ์ ํตํด ๋ฉค๋ฒ์ญ ์์ฐ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ตฌ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ์ธ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋งน์ ์์ฉ ๋ฒ์๋ฅผ 1์ต 7์ฒ๋ง ๊ฐ ์ด์์ ๋งค์ฅ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ ์ ์ธ ๋ชจ๋ฐ์ผ ๊ฒฝํ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํจ๊ณผ ์์ ์ฑ, ์ฌ์ ํฌ์๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ฐฝ์ถ๋๋ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๋ชจ๋ธ์์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, 2026๋ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ 9%์์ 10%, ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS)์ $17.30์์ $17.90์ ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| We will also continue our strong track record of returning capital to shareholders with a planned 16% increase in the quarterly dividend to $0.95. For the last several years, we've been managing the company with a focus on accelerated revenue and EPS growth. This has generated consistently strong momentum, which gives me confidence in our ability to not only deliver on our 2026 guidance, but also to continue driving strong growth over the long term. The key to driving our growth has been our investment philosophy. We consistently invest to strengthen our competitive advantages across key areas, including our customer value propositions, marketing, technology, partnerships and coverage. | ๋ํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ 16% ์ธ์ํ ์ฃผ๋น 0.95๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ๊ณํํ์ฌ ์ฃผ์ฃผ ํ์์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ค์ ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ด์ ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ํ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝ์ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด 2026๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ๋ฌ์ฑ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ํ์ ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ํต์ฌ์ ํฌ์ ์ฒ ํ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์, ๋ง์ผํ , ๊ธฐ์ , ํํธ๋์ญ, ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋ฑ ํต์ฌ ์์ญ์์ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ๊ฐํํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| In 2025, for example, we invested $6.3 billion in marketing, an increase of around 75% since 2019. And in just the last 2 years, both marketing and technology investments are up 20-plus percent. We apply a rigorous return discipline focusing on outcomes that drive growth. For example, after a product refresh, in addition to its financial results, we measure customer demand and engagement, credit quality, retention and relationship expansion. In evaluating our marketing investments, we measure the spend and revenue efficiency of our marketing dollars across thousands of campaigns. | ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด 2025๋ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ง์ผํ ์ 63์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ํฌ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 2019๋ ๋๋น ์ฝ 75% ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง๋ 2๋ ๊ฐ๋ง ๋ณด๋๋ผ๋ ๋ง์ผํ ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์ ๋ชจ๋ 20% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ์ด์ ์ ๋ง์ถ ์๊ฒฉํ ์์ต๋ฅ ์์น์ ์ ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ดํ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ ์ธ์๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋, ์ ์ฉ ํ์ง, ์ ์ง์จ ๋ฐ ๊ด๊ณ ํ๋๋ฅผ ์ธก์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ํ๊ฐํ ๋๋ ์์ฒ ๊ฐ์ ์บ ํ์ธ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋ง์ผํ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ง์ถ ํจ์จ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋งค์ถ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ธก์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| As a result of this process, we've created a robust marketplace of ideas where we fund the best opportunities from across the company. This return discipline, combined with our investment flexibility enables us to dynamically reallocate resources to those opportunities that represent the highest returns. A great example of this is our recent decision to quickly redirect marketing investments to our U.S. Platinum products given the strength we saw towards the end of the year. | ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ก, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ต๊ณ ์ ๊ธฐํ์ ์๊ธ์ ์ง์ํ๋ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์์ด๋์ด ๋ง์ผํ๋ ์ด์ค๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ต๋ฅ ๊ท์จ๊ณผ ํฌ์ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ ๊ฒฐํฉ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋์ ์์ต์ ๋ํ๋ด๋ ๊ธฐํ์ ์์์ ๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ํ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ฌ๋ก๋ ์ฐ๋ง์ ํ์ธํ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ ํ์ ๋ง์ผํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ๊ฒ ์ฌ์กฐ์ ํ๊ธฐ๋ก ํ ์ต๊ทผ ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| One of the key lessons we've learned in executing this philosophy is that the investments we make in our value propositions pay off in multiple ways, including increasing customer demand and engagement, driving business to our merchant partners, maintaining strong credit performance and driving efficiencies by enabling our marketing dollars to go further. We're seeing this in our new U.S. Consumer Platinum Card, which continues to perform even better than our expectations. Customer demand is high, engagement is up. Credit quality continues to be excellent, and we're seeing no change in retention rates as the new fee kicks in. | ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฒ ํ์ ์คํํ๋ฉด์ ๋ฐฐ์ด ํต์ฌ ๊ตํ ์ค ํ๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ ๋ํ ํฌ์๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฐฉ๋ฉด์ผ๋ก ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ธ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ ์ฆ๊ฐ, ๊ฐ๋งน์ ํํธ๋์ ๋ํ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ์ ๋, ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ ์ ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์ผํ ๋น์ฉ์ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํตํ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฑ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์๋ก์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์์ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์นด๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ธฐ๋์น๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํํ๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๋ ๋๊ณ , ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ ํ์ง์ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ฐ์ํ๋ฉฐ, ์๋ก์ด ์ฐํ๋น๊ฐ ์ ์ฉ๋๊ณ ์์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ์ง์จ์๋ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| At the same time, investments in our marketing capabilities have driven acquisition incentives to some of the lowest levels in the last couple of years. Powering the success of our product refresh strategy and our growth overall are the investments we're making in technology. This enables us to quickly introduce new capabilities that drive customer engagement and satisfaction, add new partners in categories that our Card Members value and develop new customer experiences that enrich Amex membership. We now spend $5 billion annually on technology. At a high level, we categorize our tech spending into 2 broad categories. | ๋์์, ๋ง์ผํ ์ญ๋์ ๋ํ ํฌ์๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ์ธ์ผํฐ๋ธ๋ฅผ ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ์ค ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ์ด๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ ๋ต์ ์ฑ๊ณต๊ณผ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ํฌ์์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋์ ๋ง์กฑ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด๋ ์๋ก์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ์ ์ํ๊ฒ ๋์ ํ๊ณ , ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์ด ๊ฐ์น ์๊ฒ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๋ ์นดํ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ ์๋ก์ด ํํธ๋๋ฅผ ์ถ๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ, Amex ๋ฉค๋ฒ์ญ์ ํ๋ถํ๊ฒ ํ๋ ์๋ก์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝํ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ฐ๊ฐ 50์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ถํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์์ค์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ธฐ์ ์ง์ถ์ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ฒ์ฃผ๋ก ๋ถ๋ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| One, I would call run the business investments, things like infrastructure, software licenses and cybersecurity and investments in development activities. Development includes things like new mobile experiences and capabilities and the ongoing modernization of our core systems, which we upgrade regularly, similar to our product refresh strategy to stay on the cutting edge. For example, we're rolling out our new third-generation data and analytics platform, which will enable greater personalization and marketing, improve servicing experiences, augment our industry-leading fraud capabilities and enable new Gen AI and agentic use cases. | ์ฒซ์งธ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ด์ ํฌ์๋ผ๊ณ ํ ์ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ธํ๋ผ, ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค, ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ๋ณด์, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ฐ ํ๋์ ๋ํ ํฌ์์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋ฐ์๋ ์๋ก์ด ๋ชจ๋ฐ์ผ ๊ฒฝํ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํต์ฌ ์์คํ ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ๋ํ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ต์ฒจ๋จ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ ์งํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์ ํ ๋ฆฌํ๋ ์ ์ ๋ต๊ณผ ์ ์ฌํ๊ฒ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 3์ธ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ฐ ๋ถ์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ถ์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ๋ง์ผํ ์ ๊ฐ์ธํ๋ฅผ ๊ฐํํ๊ณ , ์๋น์ค ๊ฒฝํ์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ์ง ์ญ๋์ ๋ณด๊ฐํ๊ณ , ์๋ก์ด ์์ฑํ AI ๋ฐ ์์ด์ ํฑ ํ์ฉ ์ฌ๋ก๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| The new platform, which is built on the public cloud, is already reducing the time for key processes in marketing and fraud by 90%, and we expect to migrate 100% of our data and analytics processes to the new platform by 2027. We continue to invest in enhancing our app experiences in a number of ways from the new Platinum onboarding experience and the launch of our travel app to digital journeys that enable self-servicing. As a result, we're driving more revenue-generating engagement via the apps, and we're creating operating efficiencies from digital self-servicing. Over the last 3 years, for example, the number of calls per account coming into our service centers has dropped by 25%. | ํผ๋ธ๋ฆญ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๊ตฌ์ถ๋ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์ผํ ๊ณผ ์ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ์ง ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ฃผ์ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค ์ฒ๋ฆฌ ์๊ฐ์ 90% ๋จ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2027๋ ๊น์ง ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ฐ ๋ถ์ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค์ 100%๋ฅผ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์จ๋ณด๋ฉ ๊ฒฝํ๊ณผ ์ฌํ ์ฑ ์ถ์๋ถํฐ ์ ํ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํ๋ ๋์งํธ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ด๋ฅด๊ธฐ๊น์ง ๋ค์ํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ฑ ๊ฒฝํ์ ํฅ์์ํค๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ, ์ฑ์ ํตํ ์์ต ์ฐฝ์ถ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋์งํธ ์ ํ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ํตํ ์ด์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ง๋ 3๋ ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ผํฐ๋ก ๊ฑธ๋ ค์ค๋ ๊ณ์ ๋น ์ ํ ๊ฑด์๊ฐ 25% ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| We're also expanding our digital capabilities for business customers, including the integration of Center's expense management solution, which we plan to launch later this year as part of a suite of offerings for small and middle market commercial customers. And we've created an enterprise AI enablement layer to support the development and launch of GenAI and agentic capabilities, including those already in markets such as our travel customer assist tool, our dining companion experience as well as the deployment of Gen AI tools to nearly all our colleagues worldwide. | ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ ๋์งํธ ์ญ๋์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ Center์ ๊ฒฝ๋น ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์๋ฃจ์ ํตํฉ์ด ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์ ์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ ์ ํ๊ตฐ์ ์ผ๋ถ๋ก ์ถ์ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ GenAI ๋ฐ ์์ด์ ํฑ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ๊ณผ ์ถ์๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ AI ์ง์ ๋ ์ด์ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์์ฅ์ ์ถ์๋ ์ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ง์ ๋๊ตฌ, ๋ค์ด๋ ์ปดํจ๋์ธ ๊ฒฝํ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ ์ธ๊ณ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ง์๋ค์๊ฒ Gen AI ๋๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐํฌํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| By successfully executing this investment philosophy over the last several years, we've delivered on our goals of accelerating revenue and EPS growth while maintaining best-in-class credit performance. At the same time, we are substantially increasing capital returns to shareholders. Our expectations for 2026 are no different. We expect to continue delivering the pace and quality of growth we've seen in recent years while also continuing to invest in areas to sustain our growth and deliver strong capital returns to shareholders. | ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์ ์ฒ ํ์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ผ๋ก ์คํํจ์ผ๋ก์จ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ํํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์์ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์ ๋ํ ์๋ณธ ํ์๋ ๋ํญ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ธฐ๋์น๋ ๋ค๋ฅด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ต๊ทผ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์๋์ ํ์ง์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๋์์, ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ๊ณ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์๋ณธ ์์ต์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๋ถ์ผ์ ๊ณ์ ํฌ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| In summary, we are operating from a position of strength, thanks to our loyal premium customers and the dedication of our world-class colleagues, and I'm confident in our colleagues' ability to continue to innovate for our customers as we invest for growth to drive long-term consistent results. Now I'll hand it over to Christophe for more details about the quarter and full year results, and then we'll take your questions. Christophe Le Caillec Chief Financial Officer Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In 2025, we generated 10% revenue growth and EPS of $15.38, up 15% ex Accertify. | ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ถฉ์ฑ๋ ๋์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ์ธ๊ณ์ ์์ค์ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ ํ์ ๋๋ถ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์
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์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ณ ์ผ๊ด๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์ฑ์ฅ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๋ฉด์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ ํ์ ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ ์ญ๋์ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ํ ๋ณด๋ค ์์ธํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ํด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ์๊ฒ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ดํ ์ง์์๋ต ์๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ ๋ฅด ์นด์ด์ ์ต๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ ์์ ์คํฐ๋ธ, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น. 2025๋ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 10%์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS)์ 15.38๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก Accertify๋ฅผ ์ ์ธํ๋ฉด 15% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| If you look back at our performance over the past 3 years, what you see is a track record of delivering consistent and strong results. We have driven average return growth of 11% per year and have generated mid-teens EPS growth for 3 consecutive years. Importantly, we delivered these results while maintaining a disciplined focus on premium products and high credit standards. Our momentum continued in 2025. We saw healthy spending and loan growth throughout the year and continued demand for our premium products. Net card fee grew at 18% and reached a record of $10 billion for the year. | ์ง๋ 3๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ค์ ์ ๋์๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ผ๊ด๋๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํด์จ ์ด๋ ฅ์ ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฐํ๊ท 11%์ ์์ต ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, 3๋ ์ฐ์ 10%๋ ์ค๋ฐ์ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ํ ์ ์, ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ํ๊ณผ ๋์ ์ ์ฉ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๋ํ ์๊ฒฉํ ์ง์ค์ ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ 2025๋ ์๋ ์ง์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ค ๊ฑด์ ํ ์ง์ถ ๋ฐ ๋์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ํ์ ๋ํ ์์๋ ๊ณ์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ๋ 18% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ฌ ์ฐ๊ฐ 100์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ผ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| And we drove greater scale of the business through increased investment, enhancing our ability to drive operating leverage over the long term. Overall, our business model is performing as we expected, driving our [ performance ] in the year ahead. Turning to billed business trends for the quarter. Total spend was up 8% FX adjusted, consistent with Q3. Both goods and services and T&E continued to grow at a faster pace than during the first half of the year. Retail spending continued to show good momentum in the quarter, up 10% and spending at luxury retail merchants was up 15%, reflecting the continued strength of our customer base. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํฌ์ ํ๋๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํค์ ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐํ์์ผฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ์์๋๋ก ์๋ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํฅํ 1๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ค์ ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฒญ๊ตฌ ์ฌ์ ํธ๋ ๋๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ง์ถ์ก์ ํ์จ ์กฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ค 8% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ์นํ๋ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์ํ ๋ฐ ์๋น์ค์ ์ฌํ ๋ฐ ์ ๋(T&E) ๋ชจ๋ ์๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋งค ์ง์ถ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค 10% ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ ์ข์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ๋ณด์๊ณ , ๋ญ์ ๋ฆฌ ์๋งค ๊ฐ๋งน์ ์์์ ์ง์ถ์ 15% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Growth in airline and lodging spend was largely stable and restaurant spending was up 9% once again this quarter. Our dining assets are driving high levels of engagement with spend at U.S. Resy restaurants by U.S. consumer customers up by more than 20%. Momentum from younger Card Members -- from younger customers also continued. As of Q4, millennial and Gen Z customers now make up the largest share of U.S. consumer spending, and they remain the fastest-growing cohorts. That momentum is driven by our success in attracting younger customers into the franchise. For example, the average age of new customers is 33 on the U.S. Consumer Platinum Card and 29 on the U.S. | ํญ๊ณต ๋ฐ ์๋ฐ ์ง์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ ๋์ฒด๋ก ์์ ์ ์ด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 9% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ค์ด๋ ์์ฐ๋ค์ ๋์ ์์ค์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ฅผ ์ด๋์ด๋ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด Resy ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ด 20% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ๋ ์ง์๋์์ต๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ๋ ๋์ผ ๋ฐ Z์ธ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํ์ฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ์ง์ถ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋น์ค์ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ค์ ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ์ฝํธํธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ๋์ฐจ์ด์ฆ๋ก ์ ์นํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ฑ๊ณตํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๊ท ์ฐ๋ น์ 33์ธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ |
| Consumer Gold Card, giving us a long runway to grow our relationships with these customers over time. International also delivered another very strong quarter with spend up 12% FX adjusted. Growth remains broad-based across consumer and business customers and across geographies. Overall, transactions growth of 9% was consistent with what we've seen throughout the year and reflects continued engagement from our customers. Looking at the first 3 weeks of January, we continue to see good momentum in spend trends. As we look ahead to 2026, we are encouraged by the strength and stability that we continue to see across our customer base. Turning to new acquisition. | ์๋น์ ๊ณจ๋ ์นด๋๋ฅผ ํตํด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ์ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ฑ์ฅ์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ๊ธด ํ์ฃผ๋ก๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํด์ธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ํ์จ ์กฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ค 12% ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ฉฐ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์๋น์ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง์ญ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก 9%์ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ฑด์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ ์ฐ์ค ๋ด๋ด ๋ณด์์จ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์ผ๊ด๋๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 1์ ์ฒซ 3์ฃผ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ง์ถ ์ถ์ธ์์ ์ข์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ด ๊ณ์๋๊ณ ์์์ ํ์ธํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ ์ ๋งํ ๋, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๋ณด์ด๋ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ์์ ์ฑ์ ๊ณ ๋ฌด๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๋ฉด, |
| Demand for our premium products remains very strong. Although the overall number of new cards is down versus Q3, we reallocated marketing dollars away from lower-cost cashback products to Platinum and Platinum new acquisitions were up significantly. In fact, the percentage of fee-paying products for U.S. consumer is up 8 percentage points year-over-year. Turning to balance growth and credit. Loans and Card Member receivables increased 7% year-over-year FX adjusted, growing at a similar pace to billed business. There was about a 1 percentage point impact on balance growth from our held-for-sale portfolios again this quarter. | ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ์์๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ์ ๊ท ์นด๋ ์๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ฐ์ํ์ง๋ง, ์ ๊ฐ ์บ์๋ฐฑ ์ ํ์์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ ํ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์ผํ
๋น์ฉ์ ์ฌ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๋ ํฌ๊ฒ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ฃ ์ ํ ๋น์ค์ ์ ๋
๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 8%ํฌ์ธํธ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ก ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์ ์ฉ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ถ ๋ฐ ์นด๋ํ์ ๋ฏธ์๊ธ์ ํ์จ ์กฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 7% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ, ์ฒญ๊ตฌ์ก(billed business)๊ณผ ์ ์ฌํ ์๋๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋งค๊ฐ์์ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ก ์ธํด ์์ก ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ฝ 1%ํฌ์ธํธ์ ์ํฅ์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. |
| In 2026, we expect loans and receivables to continue to grow largely in line with billed business. Our credit performance throughout the year was remarkably strong and stable. Delinquency rates were flat throughout the year and write-off rates remain best-in-class. Notably, both delinquency and write-off rates are still below 2019 levels. In 2026, we expect credit metrics to remain generally stable with some seasonal variation in provision across quarters. Turning to revenue on Slide 14. Revenue was up 10% FX reported for both Q4 and the full year. Momentum was broad-based across revenue lines with net card fees, NII and service fees and other revenue all growing at double-digit rates. | 2026๋ ์๋ ๋์ถ์ฑ๊ถ๊ณผ ๋งค์ถ์ฑ๊ถ์ด ์ฒญ๊ตฌ ๋งค์ถ์ก๊ณผ ๋์ฒด๋ก ๋น์ทํ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ค ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ฒด์จ์ ์ฐ์ค ํก๋ณดํ์ผ๋ฉฐ ์๊ฐ๋ฅ ์ ์ ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ ์ฐ์ฒด์จ๊ณผ ์๊ฐ๋ฅ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ 2019๋ ์์ค์ ํํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ์ ์ฉ ์งํ๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ ์ถฉ๋น๊ธ ์ค์ ์ ์์ด ์ผ๋ถ ๊ณ์ ์ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ธ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. 14ํ์ด์ง ๋งค์ถ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋ ์ธํ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ถ์ด 10% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ, ์์ด์์์ต, ์๋น์ค ์์๋ฃ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํ ์์ต ๋ชจ๋ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ๋ฉฐ ์ ๋งค์ถ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Net card fees reached record levels, driven by continued success in acquiring new customers onto fee-paying products, our ongoing cycle of product refreshes and our high retention rates. In Q4, card fees were up 16% FX adjusted, moderating a bit as we expected. In 2026, we expect card fee growth to pick up as the year progresses as we see the impact from the Platinum refresh, exiting the year in the high teens. We have now started applying the new annual fee for U.S. Platinum Card Members reaching their renewal anniversaries. For those customers, we have seen no change to our very high retention rates relative to pre-refresh. | ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ๋ ์์๋ฃ ๋ถ๊ณผ ์ํ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ , ์ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๋ฉฐ, ๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ์ง์จ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๋ฉด์ ์ฌ์ ์ต๊ณ ์น๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ๋ ํ์จ ์กฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก 16% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์๋๋ก ๋ค์ ๋ํ๋์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋๋ฉด์ ์ฐ์ค ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๋์ด ์ฐ๋ง์๋ 10%๋ ํ๋ฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๊ฐฑ์ ์์ ์ ๋๋ฌํ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ์๋ก์ด ์ฐํ๋น๋ฅผ ์ ์ฉํ๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ํด๋น ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ด์ ๋๋น ๋งค์ฐ ๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ์ง์จ์ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Net interest income was up 12% again this quarter, continuing to grow faster than balances. We expect NII growth to continue to outpace growth in loans and receivables in 2026. Turning to expense performance. The VCE to revenue ratio was 45% this quarter. The VCE ratio stepped up from earlier in the year as we expected, driven by the investment we made in the value propositions of our U.S. Platinum Cards. As Steve noted, VCE investments are an important part of our model. They support revenue growth by driving customer acquisition and engagement. | ์์ด์์์ต์ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 12% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ์์ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํํ์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ์์ด์์์ต ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ด ๋์ถ ๋ฐ ์์ทจ์ฑ๊ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ ์ด๊ณผํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ VCE ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ ๋น์จ์ 45%์์ต๋๋ค. VCE ๋น์จ์ ์์๋๋ก ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ์์นํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ ๋ํ ํฌ์์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. Steve๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, VCE ํฌ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ์ค์ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ฌ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํฉ๋๋ค. |
| They improve credit outcomes by attracting highly creditworthy customers, and they drive marketing efficiency by increasing demand for our products. In 2026, we expect the VCE to revenue ratio to be around 44%, driven by these investments and ongoing mix shift towards premium products and assuming a similar spend environment to what we've seen recently. We continue to drive leverage from our operating expenses with OpEx as a percentage of revenue down 4 points since 2022, even as we increased our technology spend by 11% for the year. In 2026, we expect operating expenses to grow in the mid-single digits. Marketing expense totaled $6.3 billion for the year, up 4% year-over-year. | ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๋ ์ ์ฉ๋๊ฐ ๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์นํ์ฌ ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ , ๋น์ฌ ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ์์๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ฐ์์ผ ๋ง์ผํ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋์ ๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ ํ์ผ๋ก์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ต๊ทผ ๊ด์ฐฐ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์ ์ฌํ ์ง์ถ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ฐ์ ํ ๋, VCE ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ ๋น์จ์ด ์ฝ 44% ์์ค์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ์ง์ถ์ 11% ์ฆ๊ฐ์์ผฐ์์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ 2022๋ ์ดํ ๋งค์ถ ๋๋น ์ด์๋น์ฉ ๋น์จ์ด 4%ํฌ์ธํธ ๊ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์ด ์ค๊ฐ ํ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ผํ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ด 63์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ ๋ ๋๋น 4% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| We expect marketing expense to be up in the low single digits in 2026 as we look to generate efficiencies from the investment in product value propositions and technology, as Steve discussed. Before leaving expenses, let me add to Steve's comments about our investment approach and where those investments sit in the P&L. At a high level, when we think about growth, we consider 3 types of investments. The first is spent on welcome offers and distribution channels that generate demand for our cards. These expenses are reported on the marketing line. Second, a significant part of our technology spend drives growth. | 2026๋ ๋ง์ผํ ๋น์ฉ์ ํ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. Steve๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด ์ ํ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ํฌ์๋ก๋ถํฐ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฉ ๊ด๋ จ ๋ ผ์๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ๊ธฐ ์ ์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํฌ์ ์ ๊ทผ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๊ฐ ์์ต๊ณ์ฐ์์ ์ด๋์ ์์นํ๋์ง์ ๋ํ Steve์ ์ค๋ช ์ ๋ง๋ถ์ด๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋์ ์์ค์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 3๊ฐ์ง ์ ํ์ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ๊ฒํ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ ์ฐ์ปด ์คํผ์ ์ ํต ์ฑ๋์ ๋ํ ์ง์ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ง์ผํ ํญ๋ชฉ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ธฐ์ ์ง์ถ์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| For example, the new travel app or the enhancements we made to the Amex app for the Platinum refresh. These expenses are reported in operating expenses. And third, are the customer benefits and partnership associated with card membership, which generate demand and customer engagement. The recent step-up in Card Member services on the Platinum Card is a good example of this type of investment. These expenses show up in VCE. Every year, we balance how much of these investments to deploy for growth across these investment categories. For 2026, we plan for investment levels to continue to be high with a record level of technology development, the step-up in the value proposition of our U.S. | ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์๋ก์ด ์ฌํ ์ฑ์ด๋ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ์ํ Amex ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์์ ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ธ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์๊ถ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํํ ๋ฐ ํํธ๋์ญ์ผ๋ก, ์ด๋ ์์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํฉ๋๋ค. ์ต๊ทผ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ์นด๋ํ์ ์๋น์ค ๊ฐํ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ํ์ ํฌ์์ ๋ํ ์ข์ ์์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น์ฉ์ VCE(Variable Customer Engagement, ๋ณ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋น์ฉ)์ ๋ฐ์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋งค๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์ ์นดํ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ง์ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ ์ง ๊ท ํ์ ๋ง์ถฅ๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ์์ค์ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด ๊ฐ์น ์ ์ ๊ฐํ๋ฅผ ํตํด ํฌ์ ์์ค์ด ๊ณ์ ๋๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ณํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Platinum Cards and with a large marketing budget. And we plan to invest at these levels while generating strong bottom line growth in line with our aspirations. Moving on to capital. We continue to deliver very strong returns with an ROE of 34% for the full year. We returned $7.6 billion of capital to our shareholders, including $2.3 billion of dividends and $5.3 billion of share repurchases. In 2026, we expect to increase our quarterly dividend by 16% to $0.95 per share, consistent with our approach of growing our dividend in line with earnings and our 20% to 25% target payout ratio. | ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ง์ผํ ์์ฐ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋ถํฉํ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ด์ต ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ฉด์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ณธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฐ๊ฐ 34%์ ROE(์๊ธฐ์๋ณธ์ด์ต๋ฅ )๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ 76์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์๋ณธ์ ํ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ 23์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ๊ณผ 53์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ด ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ ์ฃผ๋น 0.95๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก 16% ์ธ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์์ต์ ๋ง์ถฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ํค๊ณ 20%์์ 25%์ ๋ชฉํ ๋ฐฐ๋น์ฑํฅ์ ์ ์งํ๋ ค๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ์ผ์นํฉ๋๋ค. |
| With this planned increase, the dividend will be up by more than 80% since 2022, and we have reduced the share count by 7% since then, while maintaining capital well in excess of regulatory minimum levels. This demonstrates our confidence in the sustainability of earnings generated by our model and our disciplined capital management. We also have a robust and diverse funding stack, supported by our continued demand for our high-yield savings accounts with balances up 8% year-over-year. | ์ด๋ฒ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ ์ธ์ ๊ณํ์ผ๋ก 2022๋ ๋๋น ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ์ด 80% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์๋ณธ์ ๊ท์ ์ต์ ์์ค์ ํฌ๊ฒ ์ํํ๋ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์ ์ฃผ์ ์๋ฅผ 7% ๊ฐ์ถํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋น์ฌ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ ์์ต์ ์ง์๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ท์จ ์๋ ์๋ณธ ๊ด๋ฆฌ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํ์ ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 8% ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ณ ์์ต ์ ์ถ๊ณ์ข์ ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์์์ ํ์ ์ด ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ๊ณ ๋ค๊ฐํ๋ ์๊ธ์กฐ๋ฌ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| The majority of those balances come from our Card Members who on average hold higher deposit balances than non-Card Members, given strong engagement with our brand and the premium nature of our Card Member base. With less than 10% of our U.S. consumer Card Members currently holding a high-yield savings account with us, we see a long runway for growth. This brings me to our 2026 guidance. We continue to run our business with an aspiration to achieve 10% plus revenue growth and mid-teens EPS growth. As shown on Slide 21, for the full year 2026, we expect revenue growth of 9% to 10% and earnings per share between $17.30 and $17.90. 2025 was a very strong year for the company. | ์ด๋ฌํ ์๊ธ ์์ก์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์นด๋ํ์๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋์ค๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ค์ ํ๊ท ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋น์นด๋ํ์๋ณด๋ค ๋์ ์๊ธ ์์ก์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ธ๋๋์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋์ ์นด๋ํ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ํน์ฑ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฐ์ธ ์นด๋ํ์์ 10% ๋ฏธ๋ง๋ง์ด ๋น์ฌ์ ๊ณ ์์ต ์ ์ถ๊ณ์ข๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํ ๊ธด ํ์ฃผ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ 2026๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 10% ์ด์์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ 10% ์ค๋ฐ๋์ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ฌ์ฑ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ก ์ฌ์ ์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 21์์ ๋ณด์๋ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, 2026๋ ์ ์ฒด ์ฐ๋์ ๋ํด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 9%์์ 10%์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต $17.30์์ $17.90์ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2025๋ ์ ํ์ฌ์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ํ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We are well positioned to continue our track record of strong growth into 2026, and we feel good about the year ahead. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Kartik, and we'll take your questions. Kartik Ramachandran Senior VP & Head of Investor Relations Thank you, Christophe. [Operator Instructions] Thank you for your cooperation. And with that, the operator will now open up the line for questions. Operator? | ์ ํฌ๋ 2026๋
๊น์ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ค์ ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ ์ ์๋ ์ข์ ์์น์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก์ ํ ํด์ ๋ํด ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ๋ค์ Kartik์๊ฒ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ณ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Kartik Ramachandran ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์์ ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Christophe. [์ด์์ ์๋ด์ฌํญ] ํ์กฐํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ด์์๊ฐ ์ง์์๋ต์ ์ํด ํ์ ์ ๊ฐ๋ฐฉํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์์๋? |
# American Express Q4 2025 ์ค์ ์์ฝ
## ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ
- **2025๋
์ฐ๊ฐ ์ค์ **: ๋งค์ถ 720์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ(+10% YoY), EPS $15.38(+15% YoY, Accertify ๋งค๊ฐ ์ ์ธ), ROE 34%
- **Q4 ์ค์ **: ๋งค์ถ 10% ์ฆ๊ฐ, ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ 16% ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก 100์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- **2026๋
๊ฐ์ด๋์ค**: ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ 9~10%, EPS $17.30~$17.90 ์ ์ํ๋ฉฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น๊ธ 16% ์ธ์($0.95/์ฃผ)
- **์๋ณธ ํ์**: 76์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฃผ์ฃผํ์(๋ฐฐ๋น 23์ต, ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
53์ต), 2022๋
๋๋น ์ฃผ์์ 7% ๊ฐ์
## ๊ฒฝ์์ง ํค ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต
- **๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋ง**: ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์ ์์ ์ฑ๊ณผ ํฌ์ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๋ฉฐ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ
์ ์์ ๊ฐ ํ๋ช
- **ํฌ์ ์ฒ ํ**: ๋ง์ผํ
(63์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ, 2019๋
๋๋น 75% ์ฆ๊ฐ), ๊ธฐ์ (50์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ) ๋ฑ ํต์ฌ ์์ญ์ ์ง์ ํฌ์ํ๋ฉฐ ์๊ฒฉํ ์์ต๋ฅ ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์ ์ฉ
- **ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ๋ฆฌํ๋ ์**: ์ ๊ท ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋๊ฐ ์์ ์ด๊ณผ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์ยท์ฐธ์ฌ๋ ์ฆ๊ฐ, ์ ์ฉ ํ์ง ์ฐ์, ์ ์ง์จ ๋ถ๋ณ
## ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์
- **๊ฐ์ **: ๋ฐ๋ ๋์ผยทZ์ธ๋๊ฐ ์ต๋
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| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Ryan Nash of Goldman Sachs. | **Operator:** [์ด์์ ์๋ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๊ณจ๋๋ง์ญ์ค์ ๋ผ์ด์ธ ๋ด์๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Ryan Nash: Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Maybe to start with the net cards acquired. Steve, can you maybe expand on the comments regarding allocating away from cash back and putting this towards fee-paying products? And do you expect this remix to continue? And maybe just talk about how it will impact the results going forward? | **Ryan Nash:** ๋จผ์ ์ ์นด๋ ํ๋ ๊ฑด์์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์คํฐ๋ธ, ์บ์๋ฐฑ์์ ๋ฒ์ด๋ ์์๋ฃ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์ํ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐฐ๋ถ์ ์ ํํ๋ค๋ ๋ง์์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ฌํธ์ฑ์ด ๊ณ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ์๋์ง์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฅํ ์ค์ ์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Chairman & CEO: Yes. So I think, as I said in my comments, we have the ability when we see opportunity to be really flexible with our marketing investments, and we saw tremendous demand for premium products, particularly the Platinum Card. And as we go forward, we'll continue to adjust as necessary. I don't -- again, I don't think this affects the overall results because we don't really focus so much on acquiring cards as much as we focus on acquiring revenue. And we're hitting all our revenue targets, and we're hitting our return on investment targets. So again, I wouldn't focus too much. I mean if you look at it sequentially, it's a little bit down. If you look at it year-over-year, it's 100,000 cards. And that led to an increase in Platinum Cards. So we're really happy with those decisions, and we think it was the -- obviously the right thing to do. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ค, ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ผ ๋ ๋ง์ผํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์ฐํ๊ฒ ์กฐ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ํ์ ๋ํ ์์ฒญ๋ ์์๋ฅผ ํ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ ํ์์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๊ณ์ ์กฐ์ ํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ์ฒด ์ค์ ์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ์ ํฌ๋ ์นด๋ ํ๋ ์์ฒด๋ณด๋ค๋ ๋งค์ถ ํ๋์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๋งค์ถ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ํฌ์์์ต๋ฅ (ROI) ๋ชฉํ๋ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ๋๋ฌด ์ง์คํ์ค ํ์๋ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ฝ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ํ์ง๋ง, ์ ๋ ๋๋น๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด 10๋ง ์ฅ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ์ด์ด์ก์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฒฐ์ ๋ค์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ์ฌ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ์ ํ์ด์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Chief Financial Officer: Maybe I'll add two small things. The first one is that there is variations among the quarters. Some of that is just a function of our own marketing plans, whether we're running LT limited time offers or not. And so that drives volatility from one quarter to another. And as you saw, Q4 last year was also lower. The other thing that I mentioned is that if you focus just on fee-paying cards in the U.S. consumer business, the percentage of NCA paying a fee went up by 8 percentage points from Q4 last year to Q4 this year. This is not exactly visible to you in the numbers that we are sharing with you, but this shows that the efficiency of our marketing dollars is improving, and that's at the end, what matters. | **Chief Financial Officer:** ๋ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ง๋ถ์ด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ํธ์ฐจ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ง์ผํ ๊ณํ, ์ฆ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ํ์ ์คํผ๋ฅผ ์ด์ํ๋์ง ์ฌ๋ถ์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ด ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ๋ณด์๋ค์ํผ ์๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ๋ฎ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ ๋ฃ ์นด๋๋ง ์ง์คํด์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ง๋ถํ๋ ์ ๊ท ์นด๋ ๊ณ์ (NCA)์ ๋น์จ์ด ์๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฌํด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 8%ํฌ์ธํธ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ป ๊ณต์ ํ๋ ์์น์์ ์ ํํ ๋ณด์ด์ง๋ ์์ง๋ง, ๋ง์ผํ ๋น์ฉ์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๋๋ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Sanjay Sakhrani of KBW. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ KBW์ Sanjay Sakhrani๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Sakhrani: Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division I had a question on commercial services. Obviously, SME spend still remains pretty weak, saw a slight deceleration. I'm just curious, as we think about next -- or this year, like what gets things going a little bit more, some of the investments you've made? Obviously, some of your competitors have made some M&A moves and are getting deeper into this space. How do you think that changes sort of the competitive backdrop in which you operate? And how would you compare your products? | **Sanjay Sakhrani:** ์ค์๊ธฐ์ (SME) ์ง์ถ์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ์๋นํ ์ฝ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๊ณ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ํ๋ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๋ฅผ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ํฌ์ํ์ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ํฉ์ ์ข ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ํฌ ์ ์์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ถ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด M&A๋ฅผ ์งํํ๋ฉด์ ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์ ๋ ๊น์ด ์ง์ถํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์์ ํ์๋ ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณํ์ํฌ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ท์ฌ์ ์ ํ๋ค์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋น๊ตํ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ค๊น์? |
| Chairman & CEO: Yes. Look, I think when you tease out SMB, you've got to look at middle market, you've got to look at small business. I think small business is really, really strong. I think middle market is where you see a little bit of the slowdown. I think as far as the competitive space, and look, you just saw Capital One just acquired Brex. You've got ramp out there. We acquired Center last year, which we'll be launching probably by midyear. And it's a highly competitive space. Having said that, we're still 3x larger than anybody else. Our Platinum refresh has gone very, very well. And we're looking for a pickup as the year goes on. And we'll be communicating more in terms of just what's going to go on in our overall commercial strategy as the year goes on from a product refresh perspective. So yes, it's a highly competitive market. I think the other thing to look at is -- it's not just us that is sort of slow on the overall growth as it relates to SMB. And I think most of it is middle market from an industry perspective. So again, competitive. I like the hand that we have. I like the plans that we have going forward, and we'll be communicating more as the year goes on, on that. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ค, ์ค์๊ธฐ์ (SMB) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ธ๋ถํํด์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์ (middle market)๊ณผ ์๊ท๋ชจ ์ฌ์ ์ฒด(small business)๋ก ๋๋ ์ ๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์๊ท๋ชจ ์ฌ์ ์ฒด๋ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ชฝ์์ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ํ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ต๊ทผ Capital One์ด Brex๋ฅผ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ , Ramp๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋ ์ Center๋ฅผ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ , ์๋ง ์ฌํด ์ค๋ฐ์ฏค ์ถ์ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์น์ดํ ์์ฅ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค๋ณด๋ค 3๋ฐฐ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Platinum ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ผ๋ก ์งํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๊ฐ ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ์ค์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์์ ์ ๋ต์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ฌํด ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค, ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ์น์ดํ ์์ฅ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ ํ ๊ฐ์ง ์ฃผ๋ชฉํด์ผ ํ ์ ์ ์ค์๊ธฐ์ (SMB) ๊ด๋ จ ์ ์ฒด ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋น๋จ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ง์ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ๊ณ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋๋ถ๋ถ ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์ (middle market) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํ์์ด ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ๊ฒฝ์์ ์น์ดํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ์ญ๋์ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์์ผ๋ก์ ๊ณํ๋ ๋ง์์ ๋ญ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๊ฐ ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Don Fandetti of Wells Fargo. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wells Fargo์ Don Fandetti๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Donald Fandetti: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Steve, can you talk a little bit about 2026 in terms of U.S. consumer billed business and the health of the premium consumer? I know there's a sort of scenario where we could run a little hot. There's a lot of stimulus. And I just want to get your kind of sense. I mean you're running at 9% now. Is it like steady state from here? Or could we accelerate? | **Donald Fandetti:** 2026๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์๋น์ ์ฒญ๊ตฌ์ก(billed business) ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์๋น์๋ค์ ๊ฑด์ ์ฑ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ค์ ๊ณผ์ด๋ ์ ์๋ ์๋๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์๊ณ , ๋ถ์์ฑ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๋์ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ 9% ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ, ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ถํฐ ์์ ์ ์ธ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ๋ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ์ ์์๊น์? |
| Chairman & CEO: Look, we saw a big uplift in Platinum over the holidays. And I think the momentum that the new Platinum launch has given us, the momentum that Gold has given us, we're really bullish from a consumer perspective. Will it go ahead of 9%? I don't know. But I like what our Card Members are doing with the product. They're really engaging. I think one of the big things that is sort of lost on a lot of people was the Platinum app that we launched and the ability for our Card Members to really engage with the product and to go out there and spend. I mean if you look at restaurant spending, for example, for the quarter, it's up 9%. If you look at Resy restaurant spending, it's up 20%. And that's really due to the engagement of our Platinum cardholders, and it's due to the engagement of our Gold cardholders with our Resy restaurants. So that synergy has really worked out very, very well from us. So again, I'm not projecting more than 9%, but we are -- we do have very, very strong momentum. And that momentum, and as Christophe just talked about as well, that momentum from a Platinum acquisition perspective, we expect to continue. | **Chairman & CEO:** ์ฐํด ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์์ ํฐ ์์น์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ถ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ ธ์จ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ณจ๋ ์นด๋๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ ธ์จ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์๋น์ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ ๋ง ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 9%๋ฅผ ๋์ด์ค๊น์? ํ์คํ์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์นด๋ํ์๋ค์ด ์ด ์ํ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋์ง๊ฐ ๋ง์์ ๋ญ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐธ์ฌํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๊ฐ๊ณผํ๊ณ ์๋ ์ค์ํ ์ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ถ์ํ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ฑ์ ๋๋ค. ์นด๋ํ์๋ค์ด ์ํ๊ณผ ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํตํ๊ณ ๋๊ฐ์ ์๋นํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ฃ . ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด 9% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. Resy ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด 20% ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์. ์ด๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ณจ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ Resy ๋ ์คํ ๋๋ค๊ณผ ํจ๊ปํ๋ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ ๋๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์๋์ง๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์ ๋ง ๋งค์ฐ ์ ์๋ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, 9% ์ด์์ ์ ๋งํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ, ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๊ด์ ์์๋ ๊ณ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Erika Najarian of UBS. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ UBS์ Erika Najarian์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| L. Erika Penala: UBS Investment Bank, Research Division I just wanted to revisit the net cards acquired number because this is a big talking point with investors before the call began. So completely understand the message. And of course, the focus should be on revenue generation and not that number. But as we think about this remix strategy, as you refocus more of your dollars towards the fee-paying cards, does that over time, then impact the trajectory of net card fees, for example, on Slide 15 or get you closer to that plus part of your long-term aspiration in terms of revenue growth? | **L. Erika Penala:** ์์นด๋ ์ทจ๋ ๊ฑด์์ ๋ํด ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์ง๊ณ ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํตํ ์์ ์ ํฌ์์๋ค๊ณผ์ ์ฃผ์ ํ๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ฉ์์ง๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ดํดํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ๊ทธ ์ซ์๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ ๋งค์ถ ์ฐฝ์ถ์ ์ง์คํด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์ ๋ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ฆฌ๋ฏน์ค ์ ๋ต์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, ์์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ ์นด๋ ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ์๊ธ์ ๋ ์ง์คํ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด, ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ 15์ ๋์จ ์์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ์ ์ถ์ด์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๊ฑฐ๋, ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ์น์ ํ๋ฌ์ค ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ ๊ฐ๊น์์ง ์ ์์๊น์? |
| Chief Financial Officer: Erika, so yes, you're right. The overall portfolio is slowly getting more premium with -- either the Platinum portfolio is growing at a very fast pace. The spend because of the strong engagement is also growing at a faster pace than the rest. And we have celebrated on this call for many quarters, the growth and the sustained growth on card fees, which just reached $10 billion, right? And there is -- in the slides that we talked about this morning, you can see the trajectory over time. A lot of that is coming from the premium cards, especially Platinum. And as you think about that card fee line in the P&L for 2026, which is right now growing at 16%, which in itself is like an amazingly strong number for base like that is reaching $10 billion annually. We expect that growth rate to pick up in the balance of the year as the year progresses. And as more and more of our Card Members on the Platinum Card are facing their renewal anniversary, and we are moving them to the new price point. So that's very much the dynamic indeed that is happening. The other proof points that are either visible that the portfolio is getting more premium is their incredible performance on the credit side, right? You see those delinquency rates, those write-off rates that are not only best-in-class, but they are flat. And I compare and contrast that with many of our competitors that have guided for a small increase there while we're talking about stability when it comes to those metrics. So the portfolio is indeed moving towards a more premium portfolio and a lot of the P&L lines are reflecting that. | **Chief Financial Officer:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์ ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ํฐ๋ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์. ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋ ๋๋ถ์ ์ง์ถ์ก๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์นด๋๋ค๋ณด๋ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ด ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์กฐํด์๋ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ์ด์ 100์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋๋ฌํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์์นจ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์๊ฐ ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ถค์ ์ ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์๋๋ฐ์. ์ด ์ค ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์นด๋, ํนํ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์์ ๋์ค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ต๊ณ์ฐ์์ ์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ํญ๋ชฉ์ 2026๋
๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ์ฌ 16% ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ฐ๊ฐ 100์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋๋ฌํ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์์ ์ด ์ ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๊ทธ ์์ฒด๋ก ๋๋ผ์ธ ์ ๋๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์น์
๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ค ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์ด ๊ฐฑ์ ์์ ์ ๋ง์ดํ๋ฉด์ ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ๋๋ก ์ ํ๋๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ค์ ๋ก ์ผ์ด๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ญํ๊ด๊ณ์
๋๋ค. ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ๋์ฑ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ช ํํ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์์ ๋๋ผ์ด ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ฒด์จ(delinquency rates)๊ณผ ์๊ฐ๋ฅ (write-off rates)์ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ผ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์ง๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ก ์ ์ํ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋์กฐ์ ์ผ๋ก, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์งํ๋ค์ ์์ ์ฑ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ก ์ด๋ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ง์ ์์ต๊ณ์ฐ์ ํญ๋ชฉ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Rick Shane of JPMorgan. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ JP๋ชจ๊ฑด์ ๋ฆญ ์ ฐ์ธ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Richard Shane: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division It's sort of a follow-on to what Erika just asked. When we look at 2025, marketing, the strong -- the low expense on credit on a relative side allowed you to aggressively ramp marketing and rewards. When you -- we think about the '26 guidance, it feels like it is more in balance in terms of more normalized growth of credit expense. If credit expense continues to be low, as Christophe just alluded to, is there incremental opportunity for investment? Or is that something we would see fall to the bottom line? American Express has historically reinvested those excess returns. | **Richard Shane:** 2025๋ ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ง์ผํ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฎ์ ์ ์ฉ๋น์ฉ ๋๋ถ์ ๋ง์ผํ ๊ณผ ๋ฆฌ์๋์ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ์ฉ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋ณด๋ค ์ ์ํ๋ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ฉด์ ๋ ๊ท ํ์กํ ๋ชจ์ต์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ์ธ๊ธํ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ์ฉ๋น์ฉ์ด ๊ณ์ ๋ฎ๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋๋ค๋ฉด, ์ถ๊ฐ ํฌ์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์๊น์? ์๋๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ์์ด์ต์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ์๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊น์? ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค๋ ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ์ด๊ณผ ์์ต์ ์ฌํฌ์ํด์๋๋ฐ์. |
| Chief Financial Officer: Yes. So to your point, Rick, credit is very low, and there is a hard limit to how low those numbers can be, right? And 2% is pretty much at that limit. The other core component of the model, which we also try to illustrate this quarter is the efficiencies that we're getting on operating expenses, right? So as we are expanding the -- increasing the value proposition on our premium products, as premium products are getting a bigger share of our portfolio, it's putting a downward pressure on credit. And we are generating efficiencies on marketing acquisition as well as on operating expenses. And that's very much how the model is working. And we try to illustrate that also by saying that this is not by constraining technology growth. We're actually growing technology. I think the CAGR is 11%. It's all the other operating expenses that are generating efficiencies. So as you think about modeling American Express and thinking about how the business is working, that's very much how you should think about it. Now when it comes to potential upside and what we would do with it, we're guiding towards mid-teens EPS growth. We're providing a range. This includes a lot of scenarios, including where we overperform on some lines and underperform on some others. The idea here is just like we are committed to that EPS, but there will be certainly movements between the lines as the year progresses. | **Chief Financial Officer:** ๋ค, Rick์ด ์ง์ ํ์ ๋๋ก ์ ์ฉ์์ค๋ฅ ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ด๊ณ , ์ด ์์น๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ ๋ฎ์์ง ์ ์๋์ง์๋ ๋ช
ํํ ํ๊ณ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2%๋ ์ฌ์ค์ ๊ทธ ํ๊ณ์ ์ ๊ทผ์ ํ ์์ค์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํ๋ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํต์ฌ ์์๋ ์ด์๋น์ฉ(operating expenses)์์ ์ป๊ณ ์๋ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ํ์ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ , ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ํ์ด ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์์ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋น์ค์ด ์ปค์ง๋ฉด์ ์ ์ฉ์์ค๋ฅ ์ ํ๋ฐฉ ์๋ ฅ์ ์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋์์ ๋ง์ผํ ๋ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋น์ฉ๊ณผ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ ํฌ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ์๋ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ ์ฝํด์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ๋ ์ ๋ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์๋ ๊ณ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐํ๊ท ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ (CAGR)์ด 11% ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ํจ์จ์ฑ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ธฐํ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ๊ณ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๋ํ๋์ง ์๊ฐํ์ค ๋, ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฌ์ ์์น ์ฌ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ธ๊ฐ์ ๋ํด์๋, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 10%๋ ์ค๋ฐ์ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ก ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฒ์๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ์, ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ผ๋ถ ํญ๋ชฉ์์ ์ด๊ณผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํญ๋ชฉ์์ ๋ฏธ๋ฌํ๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ๋ค์ํ ์๋๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ๋ฐ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ํต์ฌ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํด๋น EPS์ ์ ๋ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ง๋ง, ์ฐ์ค ๊ฐ ํญ๋ชฉ ๊ฐ์๋ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๋ณ๋์ด ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Mark DeVries of Deutsche Bank. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋์ด์ฒด๋ฐฉํฌ์ ๋งํฌ ๋๋ธ๋ฆฌ์ค๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Mark DeVries: Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Yes. I had a question about kind of the impact you see on engagement and the level of spend from existing customers when you do a meaningful product refresh like you did with Platinum. Do you see existing customers actually change the way they use their card when you layer on new value? And if so, is there also a delay in that as they take time to kind of gain awareness of what's kind of new and incremental kind of in contrast to new customers acquired you presumably are being acquired because they are aware of that and very immediately engage around the new value you've layered on? | **Mark DeVries:** ๋ค, ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ฒ๋ผ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์ ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ์งํํ์ ๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋์ ์ง์ถ ์์ค์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ์ํฅ์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ถ๊ฐํ์ ๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ์นด๋ ์ฌ์ฉ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ฐ๊พธ๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด, ์๋กญ๊ฒ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ ๊ฐ์น๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์ธ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ ์๊ฐ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด์ ์ง์ฐ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์๋์ง๋ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋์กฐ์ ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์๋ง๋ ๊ทธ ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ธ์งํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐธ์ฌํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ด๋๋ฐ์. |
| Chairman & CEO: Yes. I think with existing customers, they don't uptake it as quickly as new customers do. But what I will tell you is that it goes very quickly. The engagement with lululemon, the engagement with Resy, the engagement with the hotel credit was pretty quick with our existing customers. With the new customers, it's what draws them immediately. And I think what's really important there is that, that draw is why as you move forward, when you have a new value proposition, you don't need to heavy up as much as marketing. I mean -- and Christophe's point about movement between lines. So there's movement between VCE marketing, there's better credit performance, there's operating expenses. You got to look at the entire thing. But the bottom line is new customers look at the product, they're very rational about it, and they engage in everything they want to engage in. The existing customers have a little bit of inertia, but then all of a sudden, they start to engage in. One of the things that really made a huge difference for us was the Platinum travel app, the Platinum app. It made it so easy to enroll in all the benefits. And we didn't -- I don't think Christophe mentioned this, but we certainly have it in. We had an uptick of 30% in our travel bookings in the fourth quarter. That is a direct result of that Platinum launch and the engagement of our cardholders. So you get a lot more engagement across the board. And you just see what's going on with Resy. Our restaurant spending is up 20%. So all of the metrics that we look at speaks to the fact that this was a wildly successful product launch. It attracted new cardholders and it engaged existing cardholders to spend even more. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ค, ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋งํผ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ฐ์๋ค์ด์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฑด ๊ทธ ์๋๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๋ค๋ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ๋ฃฐ๋ฃจ๋ ๋ชฌ, ๋ ์ง(Resy), ํธํ
ํฌ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ํ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ ์๋นํ ๋นจ๋์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ด๋ฐ ํํ๋ค์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๋์ด๋น๊ธฐ๋ ์์๊ฐ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ง ์ค์ํ ์ ์, ์ด๋ฐ ํก์ธ๋ ฅ ๋๋ถ์ ์๋ก์ด ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ด ์์ ๋ ๋ง์ผํ
์ ์์ ๋งํผ ํฌ๊ฒ ๊ฐํํ ํ์๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ ํญ๋ชฉ ๊ฐ ์ด๋์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, VCE ๋ง์ผํ
๊ฐ ์ด๋์ด ์๊ณ , ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ์ด ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์๋น์ฉ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ข
ํฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํต์ฌ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ํ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ๋งค์ฐ ํฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋จํ๋ฉฐ, ์ํ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ํํ์ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐธ์ฌํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๊ด์ฑ์ด ์์ง๋ง, ์ด๋ ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ์๊ธฐ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐธ์ฌํ๊ธฐ ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์ ๋ง ํฐ ๋ณํ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์จ ๊ฒ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ํธ๋๋ธ ์ฑ(Platinum travel app), ์ฆ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ฑ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ฑ ๋๋ถ์ ๋ชจ๋ ํํ ๋ฑ๋ก์ด ์ ๋ง ์ฌ์์ก์ต๋๋ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ์ง ์์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์๋ฃ์๋ ๋ถ๋ช
ํ ์์ต๋๋ค๋ง, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌํ ์์ฝ์ด 30% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ฑ ์ถ์์ ์นด๋ํ์๋ค์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๊ฐ ์ง์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง๋ค์ด๋ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฐธ์ฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Resy๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ด 20% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ดํด๋ณธ ๋ชจ๋ ์งํ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ฒ ์ ํ ์ถ์๊ฐ ๋๋จํ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ์นด๋ ํ์์ ์ ์นํ์ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ๊ธฐ์กด ํ์๋ค์ ์ง์ถ๋ ๋์ฑ ์ฆ๊ฐ์์ผฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Craig Maurer of FT Partners. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ FT Partners์ Craig Maurer๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Craig Maurer: Financial Technology Partners LP I actually wanted to ask the flip side to the last question, which is when we think about Card Member services growth as we move through the year, how much of -- I'm trying to think of how much the growth rate itself could moderate while expecting it to remain high until you lap the relaunch of Platinum. But how much do you think the fourth quarter growth rate was related to this being the new product? And now that we're moving through into the early part of the year, some of that new car smell kind of wears off. And so engagement might wane a little bit versus where we were. So I'm just trying to think about the cadence of that spend through the year. | **Craig Maurer:** ์ค์ ๋ก ์ง๋ ์ง๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ ์ธก๋ฉด์ ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ค ์นด๋ํ์ ์๋น์ค ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ๋, ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ์ฌ์ถ์ ์์ ์ ์ง๋๊ธฐ ์ ๊น์ง๋ ๋์ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ์ง๋ง, ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ์ํ๋ ์ ์์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ค ์ ์ ํ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋น์ค์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋๋์ง์? ์ด์ ์ฐ์ด๋ก ์ ์ด๋ค๋ฉด์ ์ ์ ํ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ํฌ์๋๊ณ , ๊ทธ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๊ฐ ์ด์ ๋๋น ๋ค์ ์ฝํด์ง ์ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ์ค ์ง์ถ ์ถ์ด๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๊ฐ๋ ์ง ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Chairman & CEO: Yes. I'll make a couple of comments, and I'll let Christophe go a little bit further. But I think that during that -- look, we launched on September 18 or so. And I think we got to certain engagement levels. I think those are probably the engagement levels we're going to get to. I think what you'll see is as new people come on, they will engage. But I think the existing card base has planted their flag, if you will. This is what they're going to use out of the new product. And the new card base, they've done what they're going to do. So as we plan for this, and we're fine with where these -- with where the VCE levels are. I mean it's expected. But as we plan for this, I think, Craig, you're right. I think you get to a point where it sort of stabilizes, right? Not every Card Member uses every single benefit. It's just -- and that's not how we really design the product, right? We designed the product so that it appealed to a wide variety of people. There are core benefits that a lot of people eat, right? So they'll use the Resy credit and people take Ubers and things like that. But then there are other credits on the side that they may not use. They may not use a Walmart+. They may not use a lululemon and so forth. And so you get to that sort of balance, if you will, where it's a lot easier to project what's going to happen. Some things you get more uptake than you thought you were going to get and other things you get less uptake than you thought you were going to get. But in balance, we're very happy with the overall engagement, which then leads to a wide variety of spend and more spend on the product. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ค, ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช
ํ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 9์ 18์ผ๊ฒฝ์ ์ถ์ํ๋๋ฐ์, ํน์ ์ฐธ์ฌ ์์ค์ ๋๋ฌํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ง ๊ทธ ์์ค์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋๋ฌํ ์ฐธ์ฌ ์์ค์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ด
๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์ ์
๋๋ฉด์ ์ฐธ์ฌํ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ธฐ์กด ์นด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์ ์ด๋ฏธ ์๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ก์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ํ ์ค์์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ ์ ํ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ ๊ท ์นด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต๋ ํ ์ผ์ ๋ค ํ ์ํ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณํํ๋ฉด์, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฌ VCE ์์ค์ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ํ๋ ์์ค์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ๊ณํ์ ์ธ์ฐ๋ฉด์ ๋ณด๋, ํฌ๋ ์ด๊ทธ ๋ง์์ด ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์์ ์ด ๋๋ฉด ์์ ํ๋๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ชจ๋ ์นด๋ ํ์์ด ๋ชจ๋ ํํ์ ๋ค ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ๊ฑด ์๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ์ํ์ ์ค๊ณํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ธต์๊ฒ ์ดํํ ์ ์๋๋ก ์ค๊ณํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ํต์ฌ ํํ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด Resy ํฌ๋ ๋ง์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ค๋ ์ง, Uber๋ฅผ ์ด์ฉํ๋ค๋ ์ง ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด์ฃ . ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ ์ธ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ์ง ์์ ์๋ ์๋ ํฌ๋ ๋ง๋ค๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. Walmart+๋ฅผ ์ ์ธ ์๋ ์๊ณ , lululemon์ ์ ์ธ ์๋ ์๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋์ ์ผ์ข ์ ๊ท ํ์ ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ฒ ๋๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์ด๋ ์ง ์์ธกํ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ํจ์ฌ ์์ํด์ง๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค ํํ์ ์์๋ณด๋ค ์ด์ฉ๋ฅ ์ด ๋๊ฒ ๋์ค๊ณ , ๋ ์ด๋ค ํํ์ ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ฎ๊ฒ ๋์ค๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณผ ๋, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๋์ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ํ ์ง์ถ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ , ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ๋ ๋ง์ ์ง์ถ๋ก ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Chief Financial Officer: I don't have a lot to add. I would just say that in the guidance that we gave you, we are assuming that the VCE to revenue ratio will be around 44%. And we'll see whether we land there or not at the current level of spend, of course, because another big driver of that VCE is the rewards cost. But we are assuming around 44% for the balance of the year, and we'll be watching it. | **Chief Financial Officer:** ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ง์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ ์ํ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์์ VCE ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ ๋น์จ(VCE to revenue ratio)์ ์ฝ 44% ์์ค์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ํ์ฌ ์ง์ถ ์์ค์์ ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ทธ ์์น์ ๋๋ฌํ ์ง๋ ์ง์ผ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. VCE์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ ๋์ธ์ด ๋ฆฌ์๋ ๋น์ฉ์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ด ๋๋จธ์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์ฝ 44% ์์ค์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ์ ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋งํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Jeff Adelson of Morgan Stanley. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ชจ๊ฑด์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ ์ ํ ์ ๋ธ์จ ๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Jeffrey Adelson: Morgan Stanley, Research Division I wanted to just ask about the 10% credit card cap proposal out there. Obviously, everybody has been quite vocal about this, the unintended consequences, et cetera. Just wondering what your view is of that, what might happen to Amex and the industry if this goes through. Obviously, it seems like Amex is more of a defensive mode against this with a premium card focus. But maybe just discuss that as well as maybe any conversations you've had with the administration. | **Jeffrey Adelson:** 10% ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ ์ํ์ ์ ์์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๋ชจ๋๊ฐ ์ด์ ๋ํด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋ํ์ง ์์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ค์ ๋ํด ์๋นํ ๋ชฉ์๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋์ฌ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ํ ๊ท์ฌ์ ๊ฒฌํด์, ๋ง์ฝ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํต๊ณผ๋๋ค๋ฉด ์๋ฉ์ค์ ์ ๊ณ์ ์ด๋ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์ด๋ ์ ์์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์๋ฉ์ค๋ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์นด๋์ ์ง์คํ๋ฉด์ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ฐฉ์ด์ ์ธ ์ ์ฅ์ธ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ ผ์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ณ , ํน์ ํ์ ๋ถ์ ๋๋์ ๋ํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Chairman & CEO: Look, I think everybody has pretty much said everything that there is to say on this. I think, look, affordability is really important. I don't think a 10% credit card cap is the answer to that. I think it would reduce the number of cards ultimately in the marketplace. I think it would reduce line sizes. America pretty much runs on credit. I think that would impact small businesses and so forth, and it just has it just has this sort of effect of a downward spiral from my perspective. So I don't think that's the answer. And I mean, obviously, we have conversations, and I'm not going to get into those. But we just -- we don't think it's a good idea. | **Chairman & CEO:** ์ด ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ชจ๋๊ฐ ํ ๋ง์ ๋ค ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ดํฌ๋๋น๋ฆฌํฐ(affordability, ์ง๋ถ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ)๋ ์ ๋ง ์ค์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ๊ธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ 10%๋ก ์ ํํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ํด๋ต์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ ์๊ฐํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์์ฅ์์ ์นด๋ ์ํ ์๊ฐ ์ค์ด๋ค ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉํ๋๋ ์ถ์๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ ์. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ์ฌ์ค์ ์ ์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ๋ ๋๋ผ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๊ท์ ๋ ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ๋ฑ์๋ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ์ ๊ด์ ์์๋ ํํฅ ๋์ ์ ์ผ์ผํค๋ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ฌ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ข์ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ํ๋ฅผ ๋๋๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ ๋ด์ฉ๊น์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ข์ ์์ด๋์ด๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from John Pancari of Evercore ISI. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Evercore ISI์ John Pancari๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| John Pancari: Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Steve, you mentioned on the competitive backdrop, I know you mentioned the commercial dynamics already. Can you discuss a little bit more on the consumer side? I know competing card players are leaning in still to their travel rewards programs and all that. And then what poses the greatest risk to your 2026 outlook? Is it that competitive dynamic? Or would you say it's more macroeconomic or political at this point? | **John Pancari:** ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ญํ๊ด๊ณ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฑธ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋น์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ฒฝ์ ์นด๋์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฌํ ๋ฆฌ์๋ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ ๋ฑ์ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 2026๋ ์ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ์์ธ์ ๋ฌด์์ผ๊น์? ๊ฒฝ์ ์ญํ๊ด๊ณ์ธ๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ํ ์์ ์์๋ ๊ฑฐ์๊ฒฝ์ ๋ ์ ์น์ ์์ธ์ด ๋ ํฌ๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์? |
| Chairman & CEO: I would say if you look at risk, it's more macroeconomic or political. The competitive dynamic has been here since the financial crisis. I mean this became a very interesting business after the financial crisis because it's a great return. It's a category that continues to grow about 8% every year. It's a great return on assets for people, and it's a great way to deploy capital. So the competitive dynamic in consumer is as tough as it's ever been. JPMorgan is out there, Citi is out there. Capital One is out there. And the challenge for us has been the challenge that we faced for the last 15 years is to stay 1 or 2 or 3 steps ahead of our competitors. And when you look at what our competitors are doing, they are following our playbook. And so our goal is to continue to move that playbook to a higher level, and that's what we'll continue to do and to execute and provide fantastic service to our customers. The one thing I'll say that nobody has really been able to replicate is our customer service. I mean we continue year-over-year to perform and win the J.D. Power Award for service. And I think service is sometimes an underlooked component of the overall value proposition, and it's one that we invest in quite heavily. So it's a highly competitive market. We never rest on our laurels, and we'll keep fighting and keep anticipating where the competition is going to go and beat them to that point. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ์๊ฒฝ์ ์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ์น์ ์ธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ๋ ํฌ๋ค๊ณ ๋ด
๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ตฌ๋๋ ๊ธ์ต์๊ธฐ ์ดํ๋ถํฐ ๊ณ์ ์์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธ์ต์๊ธฐ ์ดํ ์ด ์ฌ์
์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ํ๋ฅญํ ์์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ๋งค๋
์ฝ 8% ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ์นดํ
๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ด๊ณ , ์์ฐ์์ต๋ฅ (ROA)๋ ์ฐ์ํ๋ฉฐ, ์๋ณธ์ ๋ฐฐ์นํ๊ธฐ์ ์์ฃผ ์ข์ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์๋น์๊ธ์ต ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ตฌ๋๋ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ ๋๋ณด๋ค ์น์ดํฉ๋๋ค. JP๋ชจ๊ฑด๋ ์๊ณ , ์จํฐ๋ ์๊ณ , ์บํผํ์๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ง๋ 15๋
๊ฐ ์ง๋ฉดํด์จ ๊ณผ์ ๋ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค๋ณด๋ค ํ๋ ๋ฐ, ๋๋ ์ธ ๋ฐ ์์ ๋๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด ๋ฌด์์ ํ๊ณ ์๋์ง ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํ๋ ์ด๋ถ์ ๋ฐ๋ผํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ ์ด๋ถ์ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๋ ๋์ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ ์ํค๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์คํํ๋ฉด์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์, ์์ง ์๋ฌด๋ ์ ํฌ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๋๋ก ๋ฐ๋ผํ์ง ๋ชปํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋งค๋
J.D. Power ์๋น์ค ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ด์๋๋ฅผ ์์ํ๋ฉฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ์ํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋น์ค๋ ๋๋๋ก ์ ์ฒด ๊ฐ์น ์ ์(value proposition)์์ ๊ฐ๊ณผ๋๋ ์์์ธ๋ฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์๋นํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ ๊ฒฝ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ์น์ดํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ ํ์ฌ์ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ์์ฃผํ์ง ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ด๋๋ก ํฅํ ์ง ์์ธกํ๊ณ ๊ทธ๋ค๋ณด๋ค ๋จผ์ ๊ทธ ์ง์ ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ ธ๋ ฅํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Moshe Orenbuch of TD Cowen. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ TD Cowen์ Moshe Orenbuch๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Moshe Orenbuch: TD Cowen, Research Division Most of my questions have actually been asked and answered. But I was hoping you could expand a little bit on how you're kind of positioning American Express with your kind of recent acquisitions versus in that small business arena given the competition, which obviously has always been there from some of those larger private companies and now obviously, one of them will be combining with a large bank. | **Moshe Orenbuch:** ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ต๋ณ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค๋ง, ์ต๊ทผ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์ ํตํด ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ์์ฅ์์ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํฌ์ง์ ๋ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ํนํ ๋ํ ๋ฏผ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค๊ณผ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ํญ์ ์์ด์๊ณ , ์ด์ ๋ ๊ทธ ์ค ํ ๊ณณ์ด ๋ํ ์ํ๊ณผ ๊ฒฐํฉํ๊ฒ ๋๋ ์ํฉ์์ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
| Chairman & CEO: Yes. Look, I think that, as I said, with our Center acquisition, especially from a small business perspective, rather than partnering with expense management providers as we've done with whether it was Concur or IBM before that, we'll now have our own expense management offering. And I think it's what small businesses want, it's what middle market companies want. I think additionally, and I'm not going to get into details on this call, but we will be sharing over the next couple of months just a road map of where we are going from a commercial perspective, both from a product perspective and integration perspective and other technical capabilities that we will be adding. I think the small business and middle market space is highly competitive. It's been very competitive as it relates to a value proposition perspective. And I think now the puck is now moving and has moved to -- from a software perspective. I think the combination of Capital One and Brex is -- it's a very good move for Capital One. It's probably a good move for Brex as well. It's great software and you put a balance sheet together, and I think that works. They'll work on their integration issues and challenges like you do when you have an acquisition like that. But I think when we're out in the marketplace, I feel that we're going to be able to compete quite effectively. So more to come on it, but it is -- it will be a battleground just like it has been. It's just that it's going to be a battleground on even more multiple fronts now. | **Chairman & CEO:** ๋ค, ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ Center ์ธ์๋ฅผ ํตํด, ํนํ ์ค์๊ธฐ์
๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด์ ์ Concur๋ IBM๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒฝ๋น ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์ ๊ณต์
์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๋งบ์๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋ฌ๋ฆฌ, ์ด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ง์ ๊ฒฝ๋น ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ค์๊ธฐ์
๋ค์ด ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์
๋ค์ด ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก, ์ด๋ฒ ์ฝ์์ ์ธ๋ถ ์ฌํญ๊น์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์์ผ๋ก ๋ช ๋ฌ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์์ ์ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋์๊ฐ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ ๋ํ ๋ก๋๋งต์ ๊ณต์ ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํ ๊ด์ , ํตํฉ ๊ด์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐํ ๊ธฐํ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ญ๋๋ค์ ํฌํจํด์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ค์๊ธฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ค๊ฒฌ๊ธฐ์ ์์ฅ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์น์ดํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์น ์ ์ ๊ด์ ์์ ๊ฒฝ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์น์ดํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ๊ฒฝ์์ ์ด์ ์ด ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ธก๋ฉด์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ํ๊ณ ๋ ์ด๋ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. Capital One๊ณผ Brex์ ๊ฒฐํฉ์ Capital One์๊ฒ ๋งค์ฐ ์ข์ ํ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. Brex์๊ฒ๋ ์๋ง ์ข์ ์์ง์์ผ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ฅญํ ์ํํธ์จ์ด์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐํฉํ๋ฉด ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ธ์ํฉ๋ณ์์ ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ฏ์ด ํตํฉ ์ด์์ ๊ณผ์ ๋ค์ ํด๊ฒฐํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ฅ์ ๋๊ฐ ์์ ๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฝ์ํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ ์ง์ผ๋ด์ผ๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ๊ทธ๋์๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ๊ฒฉ์ ์ง๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ด์ ๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ค์ํ ์ ์ ์์ ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด ๋ฒ์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Mihir Bhatia of Bank of America. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฑ ํฌ์ค๋ธ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด์ Mihir Bhatia๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Mihir Bhatia: BofA Securities, Research Division Steve, you kind of may have preempted a little bit of my question with that last answer. But I was just wondering, obviously, in 2025, the Platinum refresh was a big thing at Amex. As we got into 2026, are there 2 or 3 initiatives that are really high impact that you're working on that we should be thinking about -- just like what are the priorities, I guess, for 2026? | **Mihir Bhatia:** BofA Securities, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์คํฐ๋ธ, ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ต๋ณ์์ ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์ ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ตํด์ฃผ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ถ๊ธํ ์ ์ด ์๋๋ฐ์, 2025๋ ์๋ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ด ์๋ฉ์ค์ ํฐ ์ด์์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๋ฉด์, ํ์ฌ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ์ ๋ง ์ํฉํธ๊ฐ ํฐ 2~3๊ฐ์ง ์ฃผ์ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ ์ฐ์ ์์๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Chairman & CEO: I mean, look, the priorities are pretty much -- if you think about even the Platinum refresh, you go back to sort of strategic priorities that we have from a company perspective, which is really to win in the premium space, to continue to build our position in commercial, obviously, our coverage and our network initiatives. And we're going to continue to focus on those things. I mean, listen, the Platinum Card is launched, right? Now we want to continue to get value out of that Platinum launch in both consumer and in small business. We're going to continue to build coverage, obviously, in international as that continues to grow and continues to be the fastest-growing overall part of our business. And we're going to continue to build more capabilities, both digital capabilities and capabilities, as we just discussed for our small business customers. And then we've got Resy and Tock, and we're going to be combining those as the year goes on as -- and I think those 2 acquisitions have been really great for us as you see the differential in overall restaurant spending and overall restaurant Resy spending, which is not only good for our Card Members, good for us, but good for the restaurants as well. So I mean, as I said to somebody on one of our calls recently, I think when you sort of look at this year, it's more of the same for us, right? It will be -- we're still going to have product refreshes, not as big as we had from a Platinum perspective this year. But the fact that we continue to refresh our products, that we continue to refresh our technology base that we continue to make more things available to our consumers, that we continue to build on partnerships and that we continue to use those partnerships to bring value to our Card Members is something that we're going to continue to lean into. | **Chairman & CEO:** ์ฐ์ ์์๋ ๋ช ํํฉ๋๋ค. ํ๋ํฐ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ๋ง ๋ด๋ ์ ์ ์๋ฏ์ด, ํ์ฌ ์ฐจ์์ ์ ๋ต์ ์ฐ์ ์์๋ก ๋์๊ฐ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์์ฅ์์ ์น๋ฆฌํ๊ณ , ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ(commercial) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐํํ๋ฉฐ, ๋น์ฐํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง์ ๋คํธ์ํฌ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ๋ฅผ ํ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค์ ๊ณ์ ์ง์คํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ถ์๋์๊ณ , ์ด์ ์๋น์์ ์์๊ณต์ธ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ชจ๋์์ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์ถ์์ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํด์ธ ์์ฅ์์๋ ์ปค๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ ํ๋ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํด์ธ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ์ฒด ์ฌ์ ์ค ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋์งํธ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ ผ์ํ ์์๊ณต์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ํ ์ญ๋์ ํฌํจํด ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ๋ค์ ๊ณ์ ๊ตฌ์ถํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Resy์ Tock์ด ์๋๋ฐ, ์ฌํด ์ด ๋์ ํตํฉํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ ์ธ์๋ ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ๊ฒฐ์ ์ด์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ๊ณผ Resy๋ฅผ ํตํ ๋ ์คํ ๋ ์ง์ถ์ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์ด๋ ์นด๋ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ๋ ์ข๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ๋ ์ข์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ ์คํ ๋๋ค์๊ฒ๋ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ์ต๊ทผ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค์ฝ์์ ๋๊ตฐ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฌํด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ์ ๋ต์ ์ฐ์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ํ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ์ ๊ณ์ ์งํํ๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์ฌํด ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋ ๋๋งํผ ๋๊ท๋ชจ๋ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํ์ ๋ฆฌํ๋ ์ํ๊ณ , ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํ๋ฉฐ, ์๋น์๋ค์๊ฒ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ , ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฌํ ํํธ๋์ญ์ ํ์ฉํด ์นด๋ ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์ ์ง์คํด ๋๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: The next question is coming from Brian Foran of Truist. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Truist์ Brian Foran์ด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Brian Foran: Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division I guess you've touched on my question a little bit through various answers, but I just want to circle back. I do hear a lot of investor concern for Amex and for the market as a whole, just whether the cost to grow is getting too high. And it is tough to measure from the outside, partly because of the investment required upfront to get premium customers. And then partly, I feel like I've been doing this 20 years, and I still have to constantly relearn the lesson that credit card accounting pulls forward a lot of the expenses and spreads out a lot of the benefits. You've been very clear the metrics you're watching show that you're putting on good -- very good, very profitable growth. You've shared some of them with us here. You've talked about the rigor behind measuring that. But I wonder, as you look across all your businesses, you touch a lot of customers, geographies, marketing, co-brand channels, rewards, benefits. Is there any part of the market where you do think it's getting overheated and where you have adjusted or might need to adjust? Or is this kind of cost to grow concern in the market right now really just kind of economic and accounting dynamics showing us all the costs upfront and the benefits more on the lag? | **Brian Foran:** ํธ๋ฃจ์ด์คํธ ์ฆ๊ถ ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ต๋ณ์ ํตํด ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฃจ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฉ์ค์ ์์ฅ ์ ์ฒด์ ๋ํด ํฌ์์๋ค์ด ๋ง์ด ์ฐ๋ คํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ฑ์ฅ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋๋ฌด ๋์์ง๋ ๊ฒ ์๋๋๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ธ๋ถ์์ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ธก์ ํ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋ ค์ด๋ฐ, ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ํด ์ ํ ํฌ์๊ฐ ํ์ํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ด ์ผ์ 20๋ ๊ฐ ํด์์ง๋ง, ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ณ์ ๋ค์ ๋ฐฐ์์ผ ํ๋ ๊ตํ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฉ์นด๋ ํ๊ณ์ฒ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋น์ฉ์ ์๋น ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ ํ ์ธ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋ถ์ฐ์ํจ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ท์ฌ์์ ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋งํ๋ ์งํ๋ค์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋งค์ฐ ์ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต์ฑ ๋์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ช ํํ ๋ง์ํด์ฃผ์ จ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์ค ์ผ๋ถ๋ฅผ ์ค๋ ๊ณต์ ํด์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. ์ธก์ ์ ์๊ฒฉํจ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ, ์ง์ญ, ๋ง์ผํ , ์ ํด ์นด๋ ์ฑ๋, ๋ฆฌ์๋, ํํ ๋ฑ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ ์์ญ์ ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ณ ๊ณ์ญ๋๋ค. ์์ฅ์์ ๊ณผ์ด๋๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์์ผ์ ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฏธ ์กฐ์ ํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์กฐ์ ์ด ํ์ํ ์ ์๋ ์์ญ์ด ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋๋ฉด ํ์ฌ ์์ฅ์์ ์ฐ๋ คํ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋น์ฉ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ํ๊ณ์ , ๊ฒฝ์ ์ ์ญํ ๊ด๊ณ, ์ฆ ๋ชจ๋ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ ํ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ํํ์ ์์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋๊ณ ๋ํ๋๋ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ ๋ฟ์ธ๊ฐ์? |
| Chairman & CEO: Well, I'll let Christophe comment after I comment. I look at the last 4 or 5 years, and I'd look at what our guidance is. And what we're basically saying here is consistently, we're going to grow 10% and consistently, we're going to deliver mid-teens EPS growth. Not a lot of companies do that. And we are committed to doing that. And one of the earlier questions was, well, if you have extra flexibility, you're going to drop it down to shareholders. A couple of years ago, we had extra flexibility with the Accertify gain, we dropped it down to shareholders. I think one of the reasons we have been able to have this consistent growth trajectory over the last really 5 years now and going into this year is the plan is because we have stayed true to who we are, and we have made investments for the longer term and not taken any short-term shortcuts. And so while people may not be happy all the time that, hey, you had some extra money and you invested it, why didn't you drop that to shareholders this year? It's because our goal is to drive consistent shareholder returns year after year after year to continue to grow our dividend in line with how we're growing EPS, to continue to do our share buyback program, to continue to return capital to shareholders, which has allowed us to drive our market cap up and has allowed us to be consistent. It's really been the same old story with Amex for the last 4 or 5 years, and that's what we're going to continue. So I don't look at the cost to grow as all that expensive right now. I mean we stay out of things that we think are noneconomical. And there are portfolios out there that we do not think are economical, we do not bid on it. We have a large co-brand portfolio, and we believe that, that portfolio is a 1 plus 1 equals 3 for us. And we have a great premium customer base. We're growing very strongly internationally, and we still see those growth prospects over the horizon. As I said earlier, this is a market that continues to grow on a global basis by about 8%. So again, I don't share the -- it looks like it's too expensive to be in this business. I think you may see from time to time, you'll see some rewards costs that get a little bit higher. You might see some incentives offers to get a little bit higher. But I think what people fail to do is to look in aggregate at the entire expense base and how one investment plays off another investment. And so when Christophe and I sit down and look at the expense base, we look at an investment, how it impacts our operating leverage, how it impacts our credit performance, how it impacts our ability maybe to dial back marketing or maybe we have to dial up marketing. So there's a lot of levers that we're pulling. We've been doing this a long time now. And so we feel really good about '26 and beyond at this point, given the macro environment that we have, the political -- with all the contingencies that are out there. But yes, I don't view this as an overheated market in any way, shape or form for us. It's competitive, no doubt, but I don't think it's overheated from a cost perspective. | **Chairman & CEO:** ์ ๊ฐ ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ถฉํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 4~5๋
์ ๋์ด์ผ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ผ๊ด๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋งค์ถ 10% ์ฑ์ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS)์ 10%๋ ์ค๋ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ ๊ธฐ์
์ด ๋ง์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ ๋
ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ง๋ฌธ ์ค์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์๊ธฐ๋ฉด ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ํ ๊ฒ์ด๋๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์๋๋ฐ, ๋ช ๋
์ Accertify ๋งค๊ฐ ์ฐจ์ต์ผ๋ก ์ถ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์๊ฒผ์ ๋๋ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 5๋
๋์, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌํด๊น์ง ์ด๋ฌํ ์ผ๊ด๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ถค๋๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ ์ ์์๋ ์ด์ ์ค ํ๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ณธ์ง์ ์ถฉ์คํ๊ณ , ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ง๋ฆ๊ธธ์ ํํ์ง ์๊ณ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ด์ ์์ ํฌ่ณ๋ฅผ ํด์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด๋ค ๋ถ๋ค์ "์ฌ์ ์๊ธ์ด ์์๋๋ฐ ํฌ์ํ์ง ๋ง๊ณ ์ ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ํ์ง ์์๋๋"๊ณ ํญ์ ๋ง์กฑํ์ง ๋ชปํ์ค ์๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ๋งค๋
์ผ๊ด๋ ์ฃผ์ฃผ ์์ต์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ , EPS(์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ๋ฐฐ๋น์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ, ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์
ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ๊ณ์ ์งํํ๊ณ , ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์๊ฒ ์๋ณธ์ ํ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๊ทผ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์๊ฐ์ด์ก์ ๋์ด์ฌ๋ ธ๊ณ , ์ผ๊ด์ฑ์ ์ ์งํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ฃผ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 4~5๋
๊ฐ ์๋ฉ์ค๊ฐ ๋ณด์ฌ์จ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋์ผํ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ์ด๊ณ , ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ ํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋น์ธ๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ํ๋จ๋๋ ์์ญ์๋ ์ง์ถํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์๋ ์
์ฐฐํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ฝ๋ธ๋๋(co-brand) ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ 1 ๋ํ๊ธฐ 1์ด 3์ด ๋๋ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ๋ฅญํ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํด์ธ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ทธ๋ฌํ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ด ๊ณ์ ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ด ์์ฅ์ ์ ์ธ๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฝ 8%์ฉ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ด ์ฌ์
์ ํ๊ธฐ์ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋๋ฌด ๋น์ธ๋ค๋ ๊ฒฌํด์๋ ๋์ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋๋๋ก ๋ฆฌ์๋ ๋น์ฉ์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ๋์์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ์ธ์ผํฐ๋ธ ์คํผ๋ ๋ค์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์ ์๊ณ ์. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๋์น๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ ์ฒด ๋น์ฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ์ข
ํฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ง ์๊ณ , ํ ํฌ์๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํฌ์์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ํธ์์ฉํ๋์ง๋ฅผ ํ์
ํ์ง ๋ชปํ๋ค๋ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์คํ ํ์ ์ ๊ฐ ์์์ ๋น์ฉ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฒํ ํ ๋๋, ํน์ ํฌ์๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋์ง, ์ ์ฉ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ์ฃผ๋์ง, ๋ง์ผํ ์ ์ค์ผ ์ ์๋ ์ฌ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ค์ด์ฃผ๋์ง ์๋๋ฉด ์คํ๋ ค ๋ง์ผํ ์ ๋๋ ค์ผ ํ๋์ง ๋ฑ์ ์ข ํฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ด ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์กฐ์ ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ ๋ฒ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ด ์ผ์ ๊ฝค ์ค๋ ํด์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํ์ฌ์ ๊ฑฐ์๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ์ ์น์ ์ํฉ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ 26๋ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ์ ์ฅ์์๋ ์ด ์์ฅ์ด ์ด๋ค ๋ฉด์์๋ ๊ณผ์ด๋์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฝ์์ด ์น์ดํ ๊ฒ์ ์ฌ์ค์ด์ง๋ง, ๋น์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๊ณผ์ด๋ ์์ฅ์ ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Chief Financial Officer: Yes. I'll add two more thoughts, Brian. The first one is when you look at the quarter we're reporting, these are an outcome of a lot of decisions we made 2 years ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 25 years ago. And we -- that's the way we think about the decisions we're making now. When we are acquiring a new Card Member, we're thinking about that Card Member, not only in terms of what that Card Member will do to us this year or next year, we're thinking about the next 20 years. That's very much critical to the way we make all our decisions. And when you think about specifically the cost of growth, on the back of this Platinum refresh, when I look at the cost of acquiring and welcome offers that we put on the market, we've seen some of the lowest cost of acquisition for Platinum in the last 2 years happening like in Q4. And so it's definitely a very competitive place. We have invested in value proposition. We have an amazing brand. We have a technology that allow us to personalize those offers and optimize the cost of origination and acquisition. And when you put all of this together and you combine that with that long-term view that we have on those relationships, I can tell you the economics are very compelling. And that's why we -- and that's how we are allocating our investment dollars. | **Chief Financial Officer:** ๋ค, ๋ ๊ฐ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ , ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒ์ 2๋ ์ , 5๋ ์ , 10๋ ์ , 25๋ ์ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ด๋ฆฐ ์๋ง์ ๊ฒฐ์ ๋ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ง๊ธ ๋ด๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒฐ์ ๋ค๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ด์ ์์ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ก์ด ์นด๋ํ์์ ํ๋ณดํ ๋, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ ํ์์ด ์ฌํด๋ ๋ด๋ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ์ค์ง๋ง ์๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ, ํฅํ 20๋ ์ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋ ์์ฌ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ๋ด๋ฆด ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ๊ฒ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ ํต์ฌ ์์์ ๋๋ค. ํนํ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋น์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฒ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ด์ผ ์ดํ ์์ฅ์ ๋ด๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋น์ฉ๊ณผ ์ฐ์ปด ์คํผ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ดค์ ๋, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ง๋ 2๋ ๊ฐ ํ๋ํฐ๋ ์นด๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋น์ฉ์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์คํ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์(value proposition)์ ํฌ์ํด์๊ณ , ํ๋ฅญํ ๋ธ๋๋๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์คํผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ธํํ๊ณ ์ ๊ท ๋ฐ๊ธ ๋ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋น์ฉ์ ์ต์ ํํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ฒฐํฉํ๊ณ , ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด๊ณ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ๊ด์ ์ ๋ํ๋ฉด, ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฑ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํฌ์ ์๊ธ์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ด์ ์ด์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our final question will come from Cris Kennedy of William Blair. | **Operator:** ๋ง์ง๋ง ์ง๋ฌธ์ William Blair์ Cris Kennedy๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Cristopher Kennedy: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division You've given a lot of great engagement metrics and you do have the new data analytics platform on the horizon. Can you just talk about that journey and the tools that you'll have to drive more Card Member engagement as you get into AI, et cetera, et cetera? | **Cristopher Kennedy:** ๊ท์ฌ๋ ๋ง์ ํ๋ฅญํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ ์งํ๋ค์ ์ ์ํด์ฃผ์ จ๊ณ , ์๋ก์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ๋๋ฆฌํฑ์ค ํ๋ซํผ๋ ์๋๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์. AI ๋ฑ์ ํ์ฉํ๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด์ ์นด๋ํ์(Card Member) ์ฐธ์ฌ๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋ณด์ ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๋๊ตฌ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Chairman & CEO: Well, I think as -- look, and we're constantly -- this is, I think, in the last 10 years, the third big data mart conversion that we've done here as technology gets better and better. I think what's really exciting for us is to be able to take large language models that are out there and take our data and insert that in and really come up with great Card Member offers, great Card Member insights, be able to create archetypes of various cardholders and be able then to treat cardholders and target cardholders in a much more effective way. And so -- and we'll roll those tools out and access to that entire data mart across the entire company. And so it takes till 2027 because you're doing it sort of organization by organization, process by process, application by application. But we're already seeing some benefits of that in some of our Card Member marketing, which again leads to some of the reduction in overall cost. So we're excited by that. We're excited that it's on the cloud, which gives us the ability to expand that on a very dynamic basis. And so I think as we go on, we'll be able to talk more about just how the proof points of that comes out. But this is a business that not only you have to invest in value propositions, but you really have to invest in a like way in the technology behind it because ultimately, it's a technology that drives those value propositions and it's a technology that drives the appropriate engagement with your cardholders. | **Chairman & CEO:** ์ง๋ 10๋
๊ฐ ์ธ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ์งํํ๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋งํธ ์ ํ ์์
์
๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์ ํ๋ฉด์ ์ด๋ฐ ์ ํ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํด์ค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ์ ๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ก์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ธ์ด ๋ชจ๋ธ(large language models)์ ํ์ฉํด์ ์์ฌ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐํฉํ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ํ๋ฅญํ ์นด๋ํ์ ์คํผ์ ์ธ์ฌ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ค์ด๋ผ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ๋ค์ํ ์นด๋ ์์ง์๋ค์ ์ํ(archetypes)์ ๊ตฌ์ถํด์ ์นด๋ํ์๋ค์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํจ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ด๋ฆฌํ๊ณ ํ๊ฒํ
ํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํด๊ณผ ์ ์ฒด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋งํธ์ ๋ํ ์ ๊ทผ์ฑ์ ํ์ฌ ์ ์ฒด์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ํ๋ํ ์์ ์
๋๋ค. 2027๋
๊น์ง ์๊ฐ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์กฐ์ง๋ณ๋ก, ํ๋ก์ธ์ค๋ณ๋ก, ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์
๋ณ๋ก ๋จ๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ์งํํด์ผ ํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ผ๋ถ ์นด๋ํ์ ๋ง์ผํ
์์ ๊ทธ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ์ฒด ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๊ตฌ์ถ๋์ด ์์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ญ๋์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฅํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ๋ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์
๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋ค์ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์(value proposition)์ ํฌ์ํด์ผ ํ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ, ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ด ๋๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์๋ ๋์ผํ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ทธ๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์น ์ ์์ ์คํํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ณ , ์นด๋ํ์๋ค๊ณผ ์ ์ ํ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ์ฑํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Kartik Ramachandran: Senior VP & Head of Investor Relations With that, we will bring the call to an end. Thank you again for joining today's call and for your continued interest in American Express. The IR team will be available for any follow-up questions. Operator, back to you. | **Kartik Ramachandran:** ์ด๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ๋ง์น๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์๊ณ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ต์คํ๋ ์ค์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ๊ด์ฌ์ ๋ณด๋ด์ฃผ์ ์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ผ์๋ฉด IR ํ์ด ๋ต๋ณํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์คํผ๋ ์ดํฐ๋, ์งํ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. |
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# American Express Q4 Earnings Call Summary
## ํต์ฌ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค
- **2026๋
๊ฐ์ด๋์ค**: ๋งค์ถ 10% ์ฑ์ฅ, EPS๋ mid-teens ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ชฉํ ์ ์
- **์นด๋ ์์๋ฃ ์์ต**: ์ฐ๊ฐ $100์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฌ์ฑ, 16% ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๊ธฐ๋กํ๋ฉฐ ์ฐ์ค ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ง
- **VCE(๊ฐ์น ์ ๊ณต ๋น์ฉ) ๋น์จ**: 2026๋
์ฝ 44% ์์ค ์์
- **์ ์ฉ ์งํ**: ์ฐ์ฒด์จ ๋ฐ ์์ค๋ฅ ์ด ์
๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ด๋ฉฐ ์์ ์ ์ ์ง (2% ์์ค)
## ๊ฒฝ์์ง ์ฃผ์ ๋ฉ์์ง ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต
- **ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ ๋ต ๊ฐํ**: Platinum ์นด๋ ๋ฆฌํ๋ ์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ ๋น์ฉ 2๋
๋ด ์ต์ ์์ค ๋ฌ์ฑ
- **์์ต ์ค์ฌ ์ ๊ทผ**: ์นด๋ ๋ฐ๊ธ ์(NCA)๋ณด๋ค ์์ต ์ฐฝ์ถ์ ์ง์คํ๋ฉฐ, ์บ์๋ฐฑ ์นด๋์์ ์ ๋ฃ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์นด๋๋ก ๋ง์ผํ
ํฌ์ ์ฌ๋ฐฐ์น
- **์ด์ ํจ์จ์ฑ**: ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์๋ 11% CAGR๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ฉด์๋ ๊ธฐํ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์์ ํจ์จ์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ๋ฌ์ฑ
- **์์
๋ถ๋ฌธ**: Center ์ธ์๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ค์๊ธฐ์
๋น์ฉ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์๋ฃจ์
์์ฒด ์ ๊ณต ์์ (2026๋
์ค๋ฐ ์ถ์)
## ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ๋ฐ ๋์ ๊ณผ์
- **๊ฒฝ์ ์ฌํ**: JPMorgan, Citi, Capital One(Brex ์ธ์) ๋ฑ ๊ฒฝ