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| Coherent Corp. | # Coherent Corp. ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ๋ฒ์ญ *์ฐธ๊ณ : ์ค์ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์ ๊ณต๋์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. Coherent Corp.์ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๊ณ ์ ํํ ํ๊ตญ์ด ๋ฒ์ญ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.* ๋ฒ์ญ ์ ๋ค์ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ์ค์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค: - ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฉ์ด์ ์ ํํ ๋ฒ์ญ (์: Revenue โ ๋งค์ถ, EBITDA โ EBITDA, Gross Margin โ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ) - ํ์์ ์ด์กฐ์ ๋์์ค ์ ์ง - ํ๊ตญ ํฌ์์๋ค์ด ์ดํดํ๊ธฐ ์ฌ์ด ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ํํ - ์ซ์์ ํต๊ณ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ ์ ํํ ์ ๋ฌ - ์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ด๊ณ ๊ฒฉ์ ์๋ ๋ฌธ์ฒด ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์๋ฌธ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ฆ์ ๋ฒ์ญ ์์ ์ ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| (COHR) Q2 2026 Earnings Call February 4, 2026 4:30 PM EST Company Participants Paul Silverstein - Vice President of Investor Relations James Anderson - CEO, President & Employee Director Sherri Luther - CFO & Treasurer Conference Call Participants Samik Chatterjee - JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Simon Leopold - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division Ruben Roy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division Thomas O'Malley - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division Ezra Weener - Jefferies LLC, Research Division Papa Sylla - Citigroup Inc., Research Division George Notter - Wolfe Research, LLC Karl Ackerman - BNP Paribas, Research Division Ryan Koontz - Needham & Company, LLC, Research Division Michael Mani - BofA Securities, Research Division Presentation Operator Greetings, and welcome to the Coherent Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Call. | ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น, Coherent 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Paul Silverstein, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for Coherent. Please go ahead. Paul Silverstein Vice President of Investor Relations Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. With me today are Jimmy Anderson, Coherent CEO; and Sherri Luther, Coherent CFO. During today's call, we will provide a financial and business review of the second quarter of fiscal 2026 and the business outlook for the third quarter of fiscal 2026. Our earnings press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of our company website at coherent.com. | ์ด์ Coherent์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์์ ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ์ธ Paul Silverstein ๋์ ์๊ฐํ๊ฒ ๋์ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋๋ค. ์์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. Paul Silverstein ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, ์งํ์๋. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น. ์ค๋ ์ ์ ํจ๊ป Coherent์ CEO์ธ Jimmy Anderson์ CFO์ธ Sherri Luther๊ฐ ํจ๊ป ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์๋ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๋ฐ ์ฌ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒํ ์ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ง์ ์ ๊ณตํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ ์ค์ ๋ณด๋์๋ฃ๋ coherent.com์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ์น์ ์์ ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| I would like to remind everyone that during our conference call, we may make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. We wish and caution you that such statements are predictions based on information that is currently available and that actual results may differ materially. We refer you to the documents that the company files with the SEC, including our 10-Ks, 10-Qs and 8-Ks. These documents contain and identify important risk factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in the projections or forward-looking statements. | ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์งํ ์ค ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋ ์ฌ๊ฑด์ด๋ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๊ดํ ์ ๋ง ๋๋ ๊ธฐํ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ ์ ํ ์ ์์์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ์๊ธฐ์์ผ ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ง์ ์ ํ์ฌ ์ด์ฉ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ์ ๋ณด์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐํ ์์ธก์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ ์ค๋ํ๊ฒ ์์ดํ ์ ์์์ ์ฃผ์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๊ฐ SEC์ ์ ์ถํ๋ ๋ฌธ์๋ค, ์ฆ 10-K, 10-Q ๋ฐ 8-K ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ฅผ ์ฐธ์กฐํ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ฌธ์๋ค์๋ ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ๋๋ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ ์ ํฌํจ๋ ๋ด์ฉ๊ณผ ์ค๋ํ๊ฒ ๋ฌ๋ผ์ง ์ ์๋ ์ค์ํ ์ํ ์์ธ๋ค์ด ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๋ช ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| This call includes and constitutes the company's official guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2026. If at any time after this call, we communicate any material changes to this guidance, we intend that such updates will be done using a public forum such as a press release or publicly announced conference call. Additionally, we'll refer to both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures during this call. By disclosing certain non-GAAP information, management intends to provide investors with additional information to permit further analysis of the company's performance and underlying trends. | ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ํ ํ์ฌ์ ๊ณต์ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ๋ฉฐ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ฑํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์ดํ ์ธ์ ๋ ์ง ๋ณธ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ์ค๋ํ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ์ฌํญ์ด ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๋น์ฌ๋ ๋ณด๋์๋ฃ ๋๋ ๊ณต๊ฐ ๋ฐํ๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณต๊ฐ ํฌ๋ผ์ ํตํด ํด๋น ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ, ๋ณธ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์๋ GAAP ๋ฐ non-GAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด์งํ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ ์ธ๊ธํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํน์ non-GAAP ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐํจ์ผ๋ก์จ, ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ํฌ์์๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ฌ์ ์ค์ ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ์ถ์ธ์ ๋ํ ์ถ๊ฐ ๋ถ์์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํ๋ ๋ถ๊ฐ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| For historical periods, we provided a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures in our earnings release and investor presentation that can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at coherent.com. Let me now turn the call over to our CEO, Jimmy Anderson. James Anderson CEO, President & Employee Director Thank you, Paul, and thank you, everyone, for attending today's call. | ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Paul. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ํด์๋, ๋น์ฌ ์น์ฌ์ดํธ coherent.com์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ(Investor Relations) ์น์ ์์ ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์๋ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์๋ฃ์ ํฌ์์ ํ๋ ์ ํ ์ด์ ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น-GAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด์งํ์ GAAP ์ฌ๋ฌด์งํ ๊ฐ์ ์กฐ์ ๋ด์ญ์ ์ ๊ณตํด ๋๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ CEO์ธ Jimmy Anderson์๊ฒ ๋ฐ์ธ๊ถ์ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. James Anderson CEO, ์ฌ์ฅ ๊ฒธ ์์ง์ ์ด์ฌ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Paul. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. |
| As world's leading innovator and provider of photonic technology and solutions, Coherent is at the center of an extraordinary expansion of optical networking infrastructure that's enabling tremendous growth in data traffic in the scale across, scale out and scale up networks of AI data centers. As a result of the AI build-out, we saw strong revenue and profit growth in our December quarter. We also experienced another step function increase in our bookings, which we expect to increase again in our current quarter. | ์ธ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์ ๊ดํ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ ์๋ฃจ์ ํ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ก์, Coherent๋ AI ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์ํฌ๋ก์ค(scale across), ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์(scale out), ์ค์ผ์ผ ์ (scale up) ๋คํธ์ํฌ ์ ๋ฐ์์ ์์ฒญ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ํธ๋ํฝ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ํ๋ ๊ด๋คํธ์ํน ์ธํ๋ผ์ ๋๋ผ์ด ํ์ฅ ์ค์ฌ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. AI ๊ตฌ์ถ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ก, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 12์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์ด์ต ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์์ฃผ์๊ณ (bookings)์์ ๋ ํ ๋ฒ์ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋ค์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| Given the extraordinary strength and visibility of demand from our customers, combined with our continued rapid expansion and production capacity, we expect a period of sustained strong revenue growth over the coming quarters. In particular, we expect continued strong sequential revenue growth in both our March and June quarters, and we expect our fiscal '27 revenue growth rate to exceed our fiscal '26 growth rate. The key growth drivers that we see over the coming quarters are growth in both 800 gig and 1.6T transceivers, growth from the ramps of new products such as OCS and CPO solutions and ongoing exceptionally strong demand in our products for DCI and scale across. | ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ์ ์์๊ฐ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ํ์ํ ๊ฐ์ธ์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฌ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ์ฅ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ํฅํ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํนํ, 3์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋์์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ '27๋ ์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ '26๋ ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ํํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋งํฉ๋๋ค. ํฅํ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์์๋๋ ์ฃผ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋๋ ฅ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ 1.6ํ ๋ผ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ชจ๋์ ์ฑ์ฅ, OCS ๋ฐ CPO ์๋ฃจ์ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ํ ๋จํ์ ์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ์ฑ์ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ DCI ๋ฐ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์น ๋น์ฌ ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์์ ๋๋ค. |
| In addition, we are now seeing demand signals that indicate a pickup in the growth of our industrial business over the course of this calendar year, led by strong orders from our semi-cap equipment customers. Overall, we're excited about the growth outlook over the coming quarters. We are also focused on driving meaningful operating leverage and expect to continue to deliver EPS growth at a significantly faster than our expected revenue growth rate. With that overview, let me provide some additional details on our recent quarter and what we expect moving forward. Turning to our Q2 operating results. | ๋ํ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ ์ด ์ฌํด ์ฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ํ๋ณต๋ ๊ฒ์์ ๋ํ๋ด๋ ์์ ์ ํธ๋ฅผ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ค์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ํ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์์ ํจ๊ป, ์ต๊ทผ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ณผ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ธ๋ถ ์ฌํญ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ ์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Revenue increased by 9% sequentially and 22% year-over-year on a pro forma basis, which excludes revenue from our recently divested aerospace and defense business. Non-GAAP gross margin expanded by 24 basis points sequentially and 77 basis points year-over-year. The combination of revenue growth and gross margin expansion drove non-GAAP EPS growth of 11% sequentially and 35% year-over-year. I'll now provide some highlights from our 2 operating segments. | ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 9%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 22% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ต๊ทผ ๋งค๊ฐํ ํญ๊ณต์ฐ์ฃผ ๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ์ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ์ธํ ํ๋กํฌ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๋๋ค. Non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 24bp(๋ฒ ์ด์์คํฌ์ธํธ), ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 77bp ํ๋๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒฐํฉ๋์ด Non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS)์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 11%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 35% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ 2๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ฃผ์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| In our Datacenter & Communications segment, which now accounts for over 70% of our revenue, we saw an acceleration of our sequential growth rate with Q2 revenue growing by 11% sequentially and by 34% year-over-year, driven by strong growth in both the Datacenter & Communications markets. In our data center business, we drove a substantial acceleration in our sequential growth rate with Q2 revenue growing 14% sequentially and 36% year-over-year. The acceleration of sequential growth in Q2 was driven by very strong execution from our production teams. | ๋น์ฌ ๋งค์ถ์ 70% ์ด์์ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ (Datacenter & Communications) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ์ ํต์ ์์ฅ ๋ชจ๋์์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ํ์ ์ด ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 11%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 34% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์ ์์๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ํฌ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ํ๋์ด 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ด ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 14%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 36% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ์์ฐํ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฐ์ํ ์คํ๋ ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Given the exceptional demand and our rapidly expanding capacity, we expect double-digit sequential growth in data center, again, in both our March and June quarters. Given that this is our largest and fastest-growing business, I'd like to provide some additional details on both the demand and supply picture within our data center business. Q2 data center revenue growth was driven by growth in both 800 gig and 1.6T transceivers. | ํ์ํ ์์์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ์ฅ๋๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ํ ๋, 3์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋์์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ค์ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์์ฐจ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋น์ฌ์ ์ต๋์ด์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ธ ๋งํผ, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ด ์์์ ๊ณต๊ธ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํด ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ธ๋ถ์ฌํญ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ ๋ผ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ชจ๋์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
| In Q2, we experienced another step function increase in our data center bookings with a book-to-bill ratio that exceeded 4x as customer demand continues to increase and customers place orders further out in time, which provides us with strong visibility for the coming quarters. The strength of our product portfolio, combined with our vertical integration and our expanding U.S. manufacturing footprint, provide a clear competitive advantage with our customers. We expect revenue growth in the current quarter to be driven by a combination of growth in both 1.6T and 800 gig transceivers as well as growth in our OCS systems. | 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ ํ ๋ฒ์ ๊ณ๋จ์ ์์ฃผ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ-ํฌ-๋น ๋น์จ์ด 4๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ์ด๊ณผํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ๋จผ ๋ฏธ๋์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ์ฃผํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์์ง ๊ณ์ดํ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ๋๋๊ณ ์๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด ์ ์กฐ ๊ฑฐ์ ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ๋ช ํํ ๊ฒฝ์ ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋น ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด 1.6T ๋ฐ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ OCS ์์คํ ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๊ฒฐํฉ๋์ด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| We see strong demand for our 1.6T transceivers across multiple customers and continue to expect both 800 gig and 1.6T to grow significantly in calendar '26. We expect 1.6T to ramp significantly over the coming quarters with the early phase of the ramp driven by our EML and Silicon Photonics-based transceivers followed by our 200-gig VCSEL-based 1.6T transceivers ramping in the second half of this calendar year. On the supply side to address the extraordinary growth in demand, we are investing in the rapid expansion of our production capacity. | ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ก๋ถํฐ 1.6T ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2026๋ ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6T ๋ชจ๋ ํฌ๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 1.6T๋ ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋ฉฐ, ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์์๋ ๋น์ฌ์ EML ๋ฐ ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ํฌํ ๋์ค ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ํธ๋์๋ฒ๊ฐ ์ฃผ๋ํ๊ณ , ์ดํ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ์๋ 200๊ธฐ๊ฐ VCSEL ๊ธฐ๋ฐ 1.6T ํธ๋์๋ฒ๊ฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณต๊ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํญ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ์ํ ํ์ฅ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| For example, we significantly increased our indium phosphide production capacity in Q2, and we are executing on track to our plan to double our internal indium phosphide production capacity by the fourth quarter of this calendar year. As a reminder, our indium phosphide capacity expansion is driven by a ramp of 6-inch wafer production, a 6-inch wafer compared to a 3-inch wafer will produce more than 4x as many chips at less than half the cost. Our production team is doing an outstanding job ramping our 6-inch indium phosphide production, and I'd like to take the opportunity to thank our team for executing ahead of our plan in Q2. | ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํญ ํ๋ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ๋ด๋ถ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๊ณํ์ ์์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒ ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ์ฅ์ 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ ์์ฐ ์ฆ๋์ ์ํด ์ถ์ง๋๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ๋ 3์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ ๋๋น ์ ๋ฐ ์ดํ์ ๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์์ ์นฉ์ ์์ฐํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ฐํ์ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ ์ฆ๋๋ฅผ ํ๋ฅญํ๊ฒ ์ํํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณํ๋ณด๋ค ์์ ์คํํด์ค ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๋ง์์ ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| We are ramping production in parallel at 2 sites, Sherman, Texas and Jarfalla, Sweden. We are in production with 3 different types of key transceiver components on 6-inch indium phosphide EMLs, CW lasers and photodiodes. Our 6-inch yields continue to exceed the yields of our 3-inch production lines. In addition, we have multiple 6-inch indium phosphide substrate suppliers, and we have secured committed substrate supply that supports our expected doubling of capacity by our December quarter. | ์ ํฌ๋ ํ ์ฌ์ค์ฃผ ์ ๋จผ๊ณผ ์ค์จ๋ด ์๋ฅดํ ๋ผ, ๋ ๊ณณ์์ ๋์์ ์์ฐ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก EML, CW ๋ ์ด์ , ํฌํ ๋ค์ด์ค๋ ๋ฑ 3๊ฐ์ง ํต์ฌ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ถํ์ ์์ฐ ์ค์ ๋๋ค. 6์ธ์น ์์จ์ 3์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ผ์ธ์ ์์จ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ค์์ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ๊ธฐํ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 12์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ์์๋๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ 2๋ฐฐ ํ๋๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ ๊ณต๊ธ ์ฝ์ ์ ํ๋ณดํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| In short, we are very pleased with the ramp of the world's first 6-inch indium phosphide production lines and expect this production ramp to support significant revenue growth and margin expansion of our transceiver products over the coming quarters. We also expect to continue to supplement our internal indium phosphide capacity with continued sourcing from external suppliers. For example, EML supply from our external suppliers increased sequentially in Q2, and we expect it to increase again in the current quarter and during this calendar year through continued long-term partnership with our key external suppliers. | ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ธ๊ณ ์ต์ด์ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ์์ฐ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋จํ์ ์ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ฐ ์ฆ๋๊ฐ ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ค์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์ ํ์ ์๋นํ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ๋ง์ง ํ๋๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๋ด๋ถ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ก๋ถํฐ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์กฐ๋ฌ๋ก ๋ณด์ํ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ธ๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ก๋ถํฐ์ EML ๊ณต๊ธ์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฃผ์ ์ธ๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ํํธ๋์ญ์ ํตํด ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌํด ๋ด๋ด ๋ค์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We also continue to invest in the expansion of our transceiver module assembly capacity. We are expanding our production capacity in Malaysia, Vietnam and other locations. Overall, I'm very pleased with the continued expansion of our production capacity to meet the rapid growth in our demand. I'm equally excited regarding our progress on other key data center products and technologies. Specifically, I want to provide updates on our CPO and OCS products, which we expect to be significant contributors to our long-term growth and profitability. | ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ํ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ชจ๋ ์กฐ๋ฆฝ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ์ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง๋ ์ด์์, ๋ฒ ํธ๋จ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํ ์ง์ญ์์ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ ๊ธ๊ฒฉํ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ์์๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ์ฅ์ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํต์ฌ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ ํ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ์ง์ ์๋ ๋๊ฐ์ด ๊ธฐ๋๊ฐ ํฝ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก, ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ์ ์ค์ํ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋ CPO(Co-Packaged Optics)์ OCS(Optical Circuit Switch) ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Transceiver technology platforms continue to evolve, and we are well positioned as we continue to make progress on LPO, LRO, CPO, and MPO-related products and technologies with a growing number of engagements across a wide range of customers. In particular, we recently secured an exceptionally large purchase order from a market-leading AI data center customer for a CPO solution that includes our new high-power CW Laser that began sampling last year. Beyond the outstanding performance of this solution, a key factor in the customer's decision to partner with Coherent was the fact that our high-power CW Laser is produced on our 6-inch indium phosphide line in our Sherman, Texas facility. | ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๊ธฐ์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ๊ณ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋น์ฌ๋ LPO, LRO, CPO, MPO ๊ด๋ จ ์ ํ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ ์์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ๋ฉด์ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ์ ํ๋ ฅ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ด ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ, ์ต๊ทผ AI ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์์ฅ์ ์ ๋ํ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ CPO ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ๋ํ ๋งค์ฐ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๊ตฌ๋งค ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋ณดํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์๋ฃจ์ ์๋ ์๋ ์ ์ํ๋ง์ ์์ํ ๋น์ฌ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ด๋ ์ฑ๋ฅ ์ธ์๋, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด Coherent์ ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๋งบ๊ธฐ๋ก ๊ฒฐ์ ํ ํต์ฌ ์์ธ์ ๋น์ฌ์ ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ํ ์ฌ์ค์ฃผ ์ ๋จผ ์์ค์ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ๋ผ์ธ์์ ์ ์กฐ๋๋ค๋ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We expect this significant design win to generate initial revenue towards the end of this calendar year with a more significant revenue contribution next calendar year and beyond. We also have engagements across multiple other customers for both indium phosphide and 200-gig VCSEL-based solutions for CPO and MPO applications. In Q2, we also saw a strong progress for our Optical Circuit Switch platform based on our differentiated nonmechanical liquid crystal technology. OCS backlog grew sequentially in Q2, and we now have over 10 customer engagements. Shipments and backlog include both 64 by 64 and 320 by 320 system sizes with most of the backlog weighted toward the larger system size. | ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฒ ์ค์ํ ์ค๊ณ ์์ฃผ๊ฐ ์ฌํด ๋ง๋ถํฐ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ฌ, ๋ด๋ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ดํ์๋ ๋์ฑ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ๋งค์ถ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ํ CPO ๋ฐ MPO ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ์ํ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์๋ฃจ์ ๊ณผ 200๊ธฐ๊ฐ VCSEL ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์๋ฃจ์ ๋ชจ๋์ ๋ํด ๋ค์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ํ๋ ฅ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ๋น๊ธฐ๊ณ์ ์ก์ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ๊ดํ๋ก ์ค์์น(OCS) ํ๋ซํผ์์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ง์ ์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. OCS ์๊ณ ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ์ฌ 10๊ฐ ์ด์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ํ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ถํ๋๊ณผ ์๊ณ ์๋ 64x64 ๋ฐ 320x320 ์์คํ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ๋ชจ๋ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์๊ณ ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ ํฐ ์์คํ ๊ท๋ชจ ์ชฝ์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We expect OCS revenue to grow sequentially in the current quarter and the coming quarters as we ramp production capacity as fast as possible to meet the rapidly growing demand and the over $2 billion of expected addressable market opportunity for this platform over the coming years. In our communications market, Q2 revenue grew 9% sequentially and 44% year-over-year. Growth continues to be driven by our products for data center interconnect and scale across as well as strong growth in traditional telecom applications. We expect our communications business to grow sequentially in the current quarter as well as our June quarter. | ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ OCS ๋งค์ถ์ด ์์ฐจ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ํฅํ ์๋ ๊ฐ 20์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์์ ์์ ์ ์ฌ ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง ์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ํ ๊ธ์ฆํ๋ ์์๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ํต์ ์์ฅ์์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 9%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 44% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ธํฐ์ปค๋ฅํธ ๋ฐ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์์ฉ ์ ํ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์กด ํต์ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ํต์ ์ฌ์ ์ด ์์ฐจ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| The strength we are seeing in communications is broad-based in terms of both products and customers. We continue to see extremely strong demand for our products addressing the data center interconnect market opportunity. These include our ZR/ZR+ Coherent transceiver products as well as lasers and other components that we sell to system OEMs. For example, we recently secured a significant multiyear design win with a leading DCI OEM, which utilizes Coherent's industry-first uncooled 3-pin micro-pump solution. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ ์ ํ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ธํฐ์ปค๋ฅํธ ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ฒจ๋ฅํ ๋น์ฌ ์ ํ๋ค์ ๋ํ ์์๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ZR/ZR+ ์ฝํ์ด๋ฐํธ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์ ํ๋ค๊ณผ ์์คํ OEM ์ ์ฒด๋ค์ ํ๋งคํ๋ ๋ ์ด์ ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํ ๋ถํ๋ค์ด ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ต๊ทผ ์ ๋์ ์ธ DCI OEM ์ ์ฒด์ ์ค์ํ ๋ค๋ ๊ฐ ์ค๊ณ ์์ฃผ(design win)๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฝํ์ด๋ฐํธ์ ์ ๊ณ ์ต์ด ๋ฌด๋๊ฐ 3ํ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ก ํํ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| We're also seeing strong demand in our traditional telecom business driven by ongoing market recovery and new product introductions, such as our new award-winning multi-rail technology platform. We are also experiencing very strong demand across our broader communications product portfolio, including pumps, amplifiers, line cards and systems. Turning to our Industrial segment. Revenue grew 4% sequentially and was flat year-over-year on a pro forma basis, excluding revenue from the recently divested aerospace and defense business. Sequential growth in Q2 was driven by our industrial lasers and engineered materials product lines. | ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์์ฅ ํ๋ณต๊ณผ ์์ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์ ๋น๋๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ์๋ก์ด ๋ฉํฐ๋ ์ผ ๊ธฐ์ ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ํ ์ถ์์ ํ์
์ด ๊ธฐ์กด ํต์ ์ฌ์
์์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํํ, ์ฆํญ๊ธฐ, ๋ผ์ธ ์นด๋ ๋ฐ ์์คํ
์ ํฌํจํ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ํต์ ์ ํ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 4% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ต๊ทผ ๋งค๊ฐํ ํญ๊ณต์ฐ์ฃผ ๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ์ธํ ํ๋กํฌ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ณดํฉ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฐจ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ฐ์ ์ฉ ๋ ์ด์ ๋ฐ ์์ง๋์ด๋ง ์์ฌ ์ ํ ๋ผ์ธ์ ์ํด ์ฃผ๋๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We expect the Industrial segment to be roughly flat sequentially in the current quarter on a pro forma basis. However, looking ahead, we expect improving demand. For example, we saw a significant increase in orders in Q2 from our semi-cap customers, which we expect to translate into sequential growth for our industrial business in our June quarter and the remainder of this calendar year. | ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ๋กํฌ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋์ฒด๋ก ๋ณดํฉ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํฅํ ์์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ํฌ๊ฒ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์ฐ์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ์ ์์ฐจ์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| At the recent Photonics West Conference, we highlighted a number of compelling long-term growth areas for our industrial product lines, including data center XPU cooling solutions based on our 300-millimeter silicon carbide and thermodyte technology, thermoelectric generators for improving data center energy efficiency through waste heat recovery, excimer laser annealing systems for Gen 8 OLED fabs, high-power lasers for direct fusion energy generation and excimer lasers for processing superconducting tape used in magnetic fusion applications. This wide range of differentiated solutions positions our industrial business for significant long-term growth. | ์ต๊ทผ Photonics West ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 300๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธํฐ ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ์นด๋ฐ์ด๋ ๋ฐ ์จ๋ชจ๋ค์ดํธ(thermodyte) ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ XPU ๋๊ฐ ์๋ฃจ์ , ํ์ด ํ์๋ฅผ ํตํ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์๋์ง ํจ์จ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ํ ์ด์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ธฐ, Gen 8 OLED ํน์ฉ ์์๋จธ ๋ ์ด์ ์ด๋๋ง ์์คํ , ์ง์ ํต์ตํฉ ์๋์ง ์์ฑ์ ์ํ ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ ๋ ์ด์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ํต์ตํฉ ์์ฉ ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ฌ์ฉ๋๋ ์ด์ ๋ ํ ์ดํ ๊ฐ๊ณต์ฉ ์์๋จธ ๋ ์ด์ ๋ฑ ์ฐ์ ์ฉ ์ ํ ๋ผ์ธ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ ๋งํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ถ์ผ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ์๋ฃจ์ ๋ค์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฐ์ ์ฉ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์๋นํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ถค๋์ ์ฌ๋ ค๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Finally, I'd like to provide an update on our portfolio optimization initiative. Last week, we completed the sale of our product division based in Munich, Germany that makes tools for materials processing. The sale of this product division is expected to be immediately accretive to both gross margin and EPS. As a result of this sale and other operational streamlining initiatives, we exited 10 sites over the past quarter which brings the total number of sites that we've either sold or exited to 33 over the past roughly 6 quarters since we began this initiative. We plan to continue to streamline our footprint and exit additional underutilized and unnecessary sites over the coming quarters. | ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก, ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ต์ ํ ๊ณํ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๋์ฃผ ๋ ์ผ ๋ฎํจ์ ์์ฌํ ์ฌ๋ฃ ๊ฐ๊ณต ๋๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ ์กฐํ๋ ์ ํ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ์๋ฃํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ์ ํ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ๋ชจ๋์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฆ๋ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ฌ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋งค๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ธฐํ ์ด์ ํฉ๋ฆฌํ ๊ณํ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ก, ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ 10๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ์ฅ์ ์ ๋ฆฌํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๋ณธ ๊ณํ์ ์์ํ ์ดํ ์ฝ 6๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋งค๊ฐํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ฒ ์ํ ์ฌ์ ์ฅ์ด ์ด 33๊ฐ์ ๋ฌํ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ฌ์ ์ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํฉ๋ฆฌํํ๊ณ , ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ์ฉ ๋ฐ ๋ถํ์ํ ์ฌ์ ์ฅ๋ค์ ์ ๋ฆฌํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. |
| In summary, we delivered strong revenue and EPS growth in Q2 and expect both fiscal '26 and fiscal '27 to be strong growth years for Coherent given our exceptional demand from our customers and the rapid expansion of our production capacity. I'd like to thank my Coherent teammates for their strong execution and the incredible innovation that they are driving every day for our customers. I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, Sherri Luther. Sherri Luther CFO & Treasurer Thank you, Jim. In our second quarter, we continued to drive strong double-digit year-over-year revenue growth, gross margin expansion and strong profitability. | ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS) ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ์ํ ์์์ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ธ์ํ ํ์ฅ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 2026๋
๊ณผ 2027๋
๋ชจ๋ Coherent์๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ํด๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์คํ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๋งค์ผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ํด ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋๋ผ์ด ํ์ ์ ๋ํด Coherent ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ต๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ
์์(CFO)์ธ Sherri Luther์๊ฒ ๋ฐ์ธ๊ถ์ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Sherri Luther ์ต๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ฑ ์์(CFO) ๊ฒธ ์ฌ๋ฌด๋ด๋น์์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Jim. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ ์๋ฆฟ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ, ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํ๋ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ต์ฑ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Capital allocation continues to be an area of focus where we maintained our debt leverage ratio below 2x. I will now provide a summary of our Q2 results. Second quarter revenue was a record $1.69 billion, up 7% sequentially from the first quarter and up 17% year-over-year, driven by growth in AI Datacenter & Communications demand. On a pro forma basis, excluding revenue from our Aerospace and Defense business, which we sold in Q1, Q2 revenue increased 9% sequentially and 22% year-over-year. Our Q2 non-GAAP gross margin was 39%, a 24 basis point improvement compared to the prior quarter and a 77 basis point improvement as compared to the year ago quarter. | ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ์ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ค์ ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์์ญ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ์ฑ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋น์จ์ 2๋ฐฐ ๋ฏธ๋ง์ผ๋ก ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ์์ฝํด ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ 16์ต 9์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ฌ์ ์ต๊ณ ์น๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 1๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 7% ์ฆ๊ฐ, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 17% ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น๋ก, AI ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. 1๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋งค๊ฐํ ํญ๊ณต์ฐ์ฃผ ๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์ ์ฌ์ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ์ธํ ํ๋กํฌ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 9%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 22% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ 39%๋ก, ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 24bp(๋ฒ ์ด์์คํฌ์ธํธ) ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น 77bp ๊ฐ์ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. |
| We continue to execute on our gross margin expansion strategy, where we generated sequential and year-over-year increases in gross margin, primarily in the Datacenter & Communications segment. These improvements were driven by reductions in product input costs, efficiency gains from improved cycle times in the manufacturing process as well as yield improvements. Pricing optimization also continued to contribute meaningfully to our gross margin expansion. Second quarter non-GAAP operating expenses were $321 million compared to $304 million in the prior quarter and $283 million in the year ago quarter. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํ๋ ์ ๋ต์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฃผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ํ ํฌ์ ์๊ฐ ์ ๊ฐ, ์ ์กฐ ๊ณต์ ์ ์ฌ์ดํด ํ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํตํ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ฆ๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์จ ํฅ์์ ์ํด ์ฃผ๋๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ ๋ํ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํ๋์ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ์ต๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ non-GAAP ์์ ๋น์ฉ์ 3์ต 2,100๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก, ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 3์ต 400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 2์ต 8,300๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋น๊ต๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| Operating expenses as a percentage of revenue declined to 19% as compared to 19.2% in the prior quarter and 19.7% in the year ago quarter. SG&A expense as a percentage of revenue declined to 9.6% in Q2 as compared to 9.8% in the prior quarter and 10.2% in the year ago quarter due to our continued progress on driving efficiencies and greater leverage in SG&A. We have made significant progress on our ERP consolidation project, where we expect most of the company to be on a single ERP platform by the end of this fiscal year. | ๋งค์ถ ๋๋น ์์ ๋น์ฉ ๋น์จ์ 19%๋ก ๊ฐ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 19.2% ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 19.7%์ ๋น๊ต๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ ๋๋น ํ๋งค๊ด๋ฆฌ๋น ๋น์จ์ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 9.6%๋ก ๊ฐ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 9.8% ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 10.2%์ ๋น๊ต๋๋ ์์น๋ก, ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ ๊ณ ์ ํ๋งค๊ด๋ฆฌ๋น ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ํ๋๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ERP ํตํฉ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์์ ์๋นํ ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธ๋ ๋ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ง๊น์ง ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ํ์ฌ๊ฐ ๋จ์ผ ERP ํ๋ซํผ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| In addition, we are executing on our low-cost region initiatives within our G&A functions that will continue to show benefits throughout this fiscal year and more meaningfully into our fiscal year 2027. The sequential and year-over-year increases in R&D were primarily in the Datacenter & Communications segment as we continue to focus on investments with the highest ROI that drive the future growth of the company. Our second quarter non-GAAP operating margin was 19.9% compared to 19.5% in the prior quarter and 18.5% in the year ago quarter. Second quarter non-GAAP earnings per diluted share was $1.29 compared to $1.16 in the prior quarter and $0.95 in the year ago quarter. | ๋ํ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ G&A(์ผ๋ฐ๊ด๋ฆฌ) ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ด์์ ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ง์ญ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ๋ฅผ ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ธ๋ฒ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ด๋ด ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฉฐ 2027 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์๋ ๋์ฑ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ํ๋ผ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. R&D์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์ฃผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ฐ์ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ํ์ฌ์ ๋ฏธ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ์ต๊ณ ROI(ํฌ์์์ต๋ฅ )๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง ํฌ์์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ non-GAAP ์์ ์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ 19.9%๋ก ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 19.5%, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 18.5%์ ๋น๊ต๋ฉ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ non-GAAP ํฌ์์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต์ 1.29๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 1.16๋ฌ๋ฌ, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 0.95๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋น๊ต๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| From a capital allocation perspective, we maintained our debt leverage ratio at 1.7x, down from 2.3x in the year ago quarter. Our capital expenditures in the second quarter were $154 million as compared to $104 million in the prior quarter and $106 million in the year ago quarter. We are focused on supporting the exceptional customer demand in Datacenter & Communications. As a result, we are rapidly expanding our capacity and expect our capital expenditures to increase sequentially over the remainder of this fiscal year. We have made good progress in strengthening our balance sheet, including significantly reducing our debt leverage, refinancing our debt and improving our working capital. | ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋น์ฌ๋ ๋ถ์ฑ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง ๋น์จ์ 1.7๋ฐฐ๋ก ์ ์งํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 2.3๋ฐฐ์์ ํ๋ฝํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. 2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์๋ณธ์ ์ง์ถ์ 1์ต 5,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก, ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 1์ต 400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ 1์ต 600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋น๊ต๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๋น์ฌ๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธ๋ฒ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ์๋ณธ์ ์ง์ถ์ด ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ๋ถ์ฑ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ํญ ์ถ์ํ๊ณ , ๋ถ์ฑ๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ต์ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ ์๋ณธ์ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ ๋ฑ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ํํ ๊ฐํ์ ์์ด ์ํธํ ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| With a strong balance sheet and focus on improving profitability, the company is well positioned to support the exceptional customer demand with investments to rapidly expand our production capacity. As Jim noted, at the end of last month, we closed the sale of our product division based in Munich, Germany that makes tools for materials processing. For reference, over the past 4 quarters, this business contributed average quarterly revenue of $25 million with a gross margin well below Coherent's corporate gross margin. The sale will reduce our employee headcount by approximately 425 employees. | ํํํ ์ฌ๋ฌด๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์์ต์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ์ง์ค์ผ๋ก, ๋น์ฌ๋ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ๋ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ํตํด ํ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ ์ ์๋ ์ข์ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. Jim์ด ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ง๋๋ฌ ๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ ์ผ ๋ฎํจ์ ์์ฌํ ์์ฌ ๊ฐ๊ณต์ฉ ๊ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ ์กฐํ๋ ์ ํ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ์ ๋งค๊ฐ์ ์๋ฃํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก, ์ง๋ 4๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ๊ท 2,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋งค์ถ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ Coherent์ ์ ์ฌ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ฐ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋งค๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋น์ฌ์ ์ง์ ์๋ ์ฝ 425๋ช ๊ฐ์ํ๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| We expect to use the proceeds from the sale to reduce our interest expense by paying down debt, which will be immediately accretive to our gross margin and EPS. I will now turn to our guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2026. Our Q3 outlook includes $5 million of revenue from the period prior to the close of the sale of the Munich product division at the end of January. We expect revenue to be between $1.7 billion and $1.84 billion. We expect non-GAAP gross margin to be between 38.5% and 40.5%. We expect total operating expenses of between $320 million and $340 million on a non-GAAP basis. We expect the tax rate for the quarter to be between 18% and 20% on a non-GAAP basis. | ๋งค๊ฐ ๋๊ธ์ ๋ถ์ฑ ์ํ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ์ฌ ์ด์๋น์ฉ์ ์ ๊ฐํ ์์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ณผ ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด์ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ง์๋ 1์ ๋ง ๋ฎํจ ์ ํ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ ๋งค๊ฐ ์ข ๋ฃ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋งค์ถ 500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ์ 17์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 18์ต 4์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ์ด๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. Non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ 38.5%์์ 40.5% ์ฌ์ด๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. Non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ์ด ์์ ๋น์ฉ์ 3์ต 2์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 3์ต 4์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ์ด๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. Non-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ธ์จ์ 18%์์ 20% ์ฌ์ด๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| We expect EPS of between $1.28 and $1.48 on a non-GAAP basis. In summary, I'm very pleased with the strong results in our second quarter. We remain focused on expanding profitability with disciplined execution against our long-term financial target model. We are excited about the significant growth trajectory ahead. This momentum reinforces our confidence in driving long-term growth and durable value creation for our shareholders. That concludes my formal comments. Operator, please open the call for Q&A. | ๋นGAAP ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ฃผ๋น์์ด์ต(EPS)์ 1.28๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 1.48๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ์ด๋ฅผ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด, 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ค์ ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด ๋ชฉํ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ๋ํ ๊ท์จ ์๋ ์คํ์ ํตํด ์์ต์ฑ ํ๋์ ๊ณ์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก์ ์๋นํ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ถค๋์ ๋ํด ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์ฃผ์ฃผ๋ค์ ์ํ ์ง์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ๊ฐ์น ์ฐฝ์ถ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํ์ ์ ๋์ฑ ๊ฐํ์์ผ ์ค๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ณต์ ๋ฐ์ธ์ ๋ง์น๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตํ์๋, ์ง์์๋ต ์๊ฐ์ ์์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
# Coherent Corp. (COHR) 2026๋
2๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์์ฝ
## ํต์ฌ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ
- **๋งค์ถ**: 16์ต9์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ (์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น +9%, ์ ๋
๋๋น +22% pro forma ๊ธฐ์ค)
- **๋นGAAP ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ **: 39% (์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น +24bp, ์ ๋
๋๋น +77bp)
- **๋นGAAP EPS**: $1.29 (์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น +11%, ์ ๋
๋๋น +35%)
- **3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค**: ๋งค์ถ 17์ต~18์ต4์ฒ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ, EPS $1.28~$1.48
## ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ์
๋ํฅ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต
- **๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์
๊ธ์ฑ์ฅ**: AI ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์์๋ก ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 14%, ์ ๋
๋๋น 36% ์ฑ์ฅ. 800G ๋ฐ 1.6T ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฐ์ธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ-ํฌ-๋น ๋น์จ 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- **์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ๋**: ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(InP) 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ ์์ฐ ๋ผ์ธ ๊ฐ๋ ์ค์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๊น์ง ๋ด๋ถ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ 2๋ฐฐ ํ๋ ๊ณํ. 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ๋ 3์ธ์น ๋๋น 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ์นฉ ์์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๋ฉฐ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ ๋ฐ ์์ค
- **์ ์ ํ ์ฑ๊ณผ**: CPO ์๋ฃจ์
๋ํ ์์ฃผ ํ๋ณด, OCS(๊ดํ๋ก ์ค์์น) ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก 10๊ฐ ์ด์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ ํ๋ณด. ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ DCI
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| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Samik Chatterjee with JPMorgan. | **Operator:** [์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ง์์ฌํญ] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ JP๋ชจ๊ฑด์ Samik Chatterjee๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Samik Chatterjee: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Jim, I hope your leg is healing now. Hopefully, things are better on that front. Maybe for the first question, really just on demand. How would you characterize -- I mean, you gave some of the book-to-bill numbers that you're seeing, but how would you characterize the visibility there in terms of maybe duration? Like how long is the visibility in terms of demand that the customers are providing? And vis-a-vis how should we think about the capacity ramp for indium phosphide in particular? How are you planning that out, particularly how to think about contribution of 6-inch to that capacity ramp? And I have a follow-up. | **Samik Chatterjee:** ์ง, ๋ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ํ๋ณต๋๊ณ ๊ณ์๊ธธ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ข ๋์์ง์ จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ผ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์์์ ๊ดํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฅ๋ถ๊ฐ ๋ ์์ฃผ ๋น์จ(book-to-bill) ์์น๋ฅผ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ๊ฐํ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ์์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํนํ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ์ค์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ณํํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ํนํ 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ๊ฐ ๊ทธ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์ฆ์ค์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ํ๋ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Samik. And yes, the leg is doing much better. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. On the demand question, yes, I would say, I would call the demand that we're seeing and the visibility extraordinary. If I just look at a couple of highlights from last quarter, if we look at our data center business, I was really pleased with the acceleration of our sequential growth rate, 14% sequential growth. And then we also saw, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, over 4x book-to-bill ratio. So just seeing incredibly strong demand. And we're seeing bookings go further out in time than we would have in the past, which is great for us for visibility. So number one, bookings being booked out through the rest of this calendar year. And most of the bookings we're getting now are into calendar '27. So most of our calendar '26 is booked out and calendar '27 is filling very, very quickly. That's important to us because it gives us just great visibility. And then we're also getting really good detailed long-term forecast from our big customers. A lot of times, those forecasts go out 2, 3 years. So we're getting forecasts that go out into calendar '28, which again is great for visibility. And then the third thing I would mention with respect to visibility is a number of long-term supply agreements that we've either signed with customers or in the process of signing, where the LTA will provide a guarantee to our customers for a certain amount of supply and in exchange, they give us a guarantee on a certain amount of demand. And there's often some sort of financial commitment from our customers like investment for CapEx, et cetera. So I would say all those things combined, the visibility of the business is the best it's ever been, which gives us just kind of great confidence in terms of the go-forward growth that we're seeing. On the second part of your question on indium phosphide capacity ramp, again, here, really pleased with the team's execution here on the 6-inch indium phosphide ramp. One of the key metrics that I look at in terms of how the progress -- how we're making progress is wafer starts. And remember, our goal that we mentioned last quarter was that we wanted to double indium phosphide capacity by the end of this calendar year. And if you look at the number of wafer starts that we're starting this quarter, we're basically at 80% of that target capacity already. So we're starting wafers at 80% of the goal of doubling capacity, which is really strong and frankly, ahead of schedule. In fact, last quarter, we more than quadrupled the number of wafer starts from our September quarter to our December quarter. So I think that -- for me, that's a really good important leading indicator on how we're progressing on the indium phosphide ramp is that being at 80% of target in terms of initial wafer starts. Now that's the beginning of the production line, right? It does take a number of quarters before those wafer starts or a number of months before those wafer starts transition into products and ship to customers. And typical time from a wafer start to like a transceiver shipment is about 6 months. So -- but that's a great leading indicator on our indium phosphide ramp. And we're already seeing the benefits this quarter from the initial production that started in our September quarter of last year. So I'm really pleased with that ramp. And again, the reason we're so focused on that is because 6-inch wafer versus a 3-inch wafer is more than 4x as many chips at less than half the cost. And so we're really pleased with that ramp. And then Samik, it sounded like you had a follow-up. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ง์ด ์ข์์ก์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฑฑ์ ํด ์ฃผ์
์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ์์์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ์ ๋ง ๋๋ผ์ด ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์ฃผ์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด 14%๋ก ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ์ ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฌ์ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฅ๋ถ ๋๋น ์์ฃผ ๋น์จ(book-to-bill ratio)์ด 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋จผ ๋ฏธ๋๊น์ง ์์ฃผ๊ฐ ๋ค์ด์ค๊ณ ์์ด์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฒซ์งธ๋ก, ์ฌํด ๋จ์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์์ฃผ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์์ฃผ๊ฐ 2027๋ ์ผ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ด์ค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 2026๋ ์ผ์ ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ ์์ฝ์ด ์๋ฃ๋์๊ณ , 2027๋ ์ผ์ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ๋ฐ, ํ์ํ ๊ฐ์์ฑ(visibility)์ ํ๋ณดํ ์ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ฃผ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋งค์ฐ ์์ธํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ณดํต 2~3๋ ์์ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด๋๋ฐ, ํ์ฌ 2028๋ ๊น์ง์ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ญ์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ ํ๋ณด ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ์์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ธ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ฒด๊ฒฐ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ๋ค์์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ณ์ฝ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ์ฝ(LTA)์ ํตํด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ผ์ ๋์ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ๋ณด์ฅํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋๊ฐ๋ก ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ผ์ ๋์ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฅ๋ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ข ์ข ์ค๋นํฌ์(CapEx) ๋ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ์ฝ์๋ ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ข ํฉํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ ๋๋ณด๋ค ์ข์ ์ํฉ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ํฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ํด ํ๊ณ ํ ์์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒ ํด์ค๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ธ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ๋์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ์ฆ์ค์ ์์ด ํ์ ์คํ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์งํ ์ํฉ์ ํ๊ฐํ ๋ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ๋ ํต์ฌ ์งํ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ๋(wafer starts)์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ์ฌํด ๋ง๊น์ง ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ 2๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ํฌ์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ์จ์ดํผ ์๋์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ชฉํ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ 80% ์์ค์ ๋๋ฌํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ 2๋ฐฐ ํ๋๋ผ๋ ๋ชฉํ์ 80% ์์ค์ผ๋ก ์จ์ดํผ๋ฅผ ํฌ์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ด๋ฉฐ ์์งํ ์ผ์ ๋ณด๋ค ์์ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 9์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 12์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ๋(wafer starts)์ 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ๋๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ์๊ฐ์๋ ์ด๊ธฐ ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ๋์ด ๋ชฉํ์น์ 80% ์์ค์ ๋๋ฌํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๋จํ์ ์งํ ์ํฉ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ์ ํ์งํ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๊ฑด ์์ฐ๋ผ์ธ์ ์์ ๋จ๊ณ์ ๋๋ค. ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ์์ ์ ํ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ๋์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ์ถํ๋๊ธฐ๊น์ง๋ ๋ช ๊ฐ์, ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ๋ถํฐ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์ถํ๊น์ง๋ ์ฝ 6๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ๋จํ์ ์ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ ํ์งํ์ธ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ์๋ 9์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์์๋ ์ด๊ธฐ ์์ฐ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ทธ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ ์ด ๋จํ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๊ฒ์ ์ง์คํ๋ ์ด์ ๋ 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ๊ฐ 3์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ ๋๋น 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์์ ์นฉ์ ์์ฐํ๋ฉด์๋ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ ๋ฐ ์ดํ์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ๋จํ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Samik, ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ผ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์. |
| Samik Chatterjee: JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division Yes. Just quick. OCS, I mean, clearly, demand is strong, but any way to quantify for us what the magnitude of the backlog from the 10 customers is? Or maybe in terms of like material impact to revenues, how should we be thinking about when does it get to maybe more than like $100 million revenue number in terms of timing? Should it be this fiscal year or next year? How to think about that? | **Samik Chatterjee:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ๋จํ ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. OCS ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์์๊ฐ ๊ฐํ ๊ฑด ๋ช ํํ๋ฐ์, 10๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ก๋ถํฐ์ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์์นํํด์ ์๋ ค์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์๋๋ฉด ๋งค์ถ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ์ค์ง์ ์ํฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์์, ์ธ์ ์ฏค 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์์ ๋งค์ถ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋๋ฌํ ์ ์์์ง ํ์ด๋ฐ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ์ฌ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋๊ฐ ๋ ๊น์, ์๋๋ฉด ๋ด๋ ์ด ๋ ๊น์? ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ดํดํ๋ฉด ์ข์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Samik. Yes, in terms of OCS, this is going to sound like a common theme. But here again, demand is very strong. We are very focused on the production ramp now. So backlog is good. It grew in the December quarter versus the September quarter. We expect revenue to ramp to grow this quarter and really the revenue to ramp throughout this calendar year and into next year. And we are just 100% focused on ramping capacity and production as fast as possible. The demand is very strong. We're engaged with over 10 customers. The size of the market has only grown since we assessed it about a year ago. And so tremendous opportunity, and we're ramping production as fast as possible. And we'll probably give some more specific milestones in terms of revenue as we progress through the year, but it will certainly contribute to our revenue growth throughout this calendar year and certainly a contributor next year as well. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. OCS ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒ๋ ๊ณตํต์ ์ธ ์ฃผ์ ์ฒ๋ผ ๋ค๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ์์๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ฐ ๋จํ์
์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ(์์ฃผ์๊ณ )๋ ์ํธํ ์ํ์ด๋ฉฐ, 12์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๊ฐ 9์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋งค์ถ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌํด์ ๋ด๋
๊น์ง ๋งค์ถ์ด ๊ณ์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์์ฐ๋์ ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ 100% ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ 10๊ฐ ์ด์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ํ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ ์ฝ 1๋ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๊ฐํ์ ๋๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ปค์ก์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์์ฒญ๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ฐ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด๊ฐ ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ๋งค์ถ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ข ๋ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋ง์ผ์คํค์ ์ ์ํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค๋ง, ๋ถ๋ช ํ ๊ฒ์ ์ฌํด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ ๋ด๋ ์๋ ํ์คํ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Raymond James์ Simon Leopold๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ญ๋๋ค. |
| Simon Leopold: Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division The first thing I wanted to ask about was you had highlighted some progress traction on the 1.6 terabite which is, I guess, I'd call it an emerging cycle. So maybe if you could put some milestones around this, help us understand when does that cross $100 million per quarter? And how does the competitive landscape stack up for that product? And then I've got a longer-term question I'll follow up with. | **Simon Leopold:** 1.6ํ
๋ผ๋นํธ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์๋นํ ์ง์ ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ง ์์๋๋ ์ฌ์ดํด์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณผ ์ ์๋๋ฐ์, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋ง์ผ์คํค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋น 1์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๋์ด์๋ ์์ ์ด ์ธ์ ์ธ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํด๋น ์ ํ์ ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ตฌ๋๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํ์ฑ๋์ด ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํ์๋ค๋ ๋ง์์ด์์ฃ . ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฐ ํ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ ์์ผ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ ์ด์ด์ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Simon. So first of all, both 800 gig and 1.6T, we expect to continue to grow for this calendar year. We saw growth in both 800 gig and 1.6T last quarter. We expect both to grow again this quarter. 800 gig is the biggest portion of revenue still. We expect that to grow on a year-over-year basis this year. 1.6T is growing much faster, but it's growing off a smaller base than 800 gig. I would say the 1.6T ramp has accelerated. The demand from the customers has accelerated. We're ramping with multiple customers. I see that as really a key main growth driver for us throughout this year. We don't typically break out revenue by data rates, but those two 800 gig and 1.6T will absolutely be key growth drivers for the company this year, this calendar year. And 1.6T will continue to ramp into the following calendar year as well. In fact, a lot of the orders that we're seeing right now are certainly for 800 gig, but a tremendous amount of orders on 1.6T. And so that's great -- that provides us great visibility in terms of the demand moving forward. And then maybe just mention what I did on the prepared remarks, which is our initial ramp is driven by both EML-based transceivers for 1.6T as well as silicon photonics. But we expect VCSEL-based 1.6T transceivers to start to ramp in the second half of this year. So really pleased with the progress and the rate and pace and the growth we see ahead for 1.6T. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, ์ฌ์ด๋จผ. ์ฐ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌํด ๊ณ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ๋ชจ๋์์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋ ์ ํ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ค์ ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ํ ๋งค์ถ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋น์ค์ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด ์ ๋
๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. 1.6ํ
๋ผ๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋ณด๋ค ์์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์์ ์ถ๋ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 1.6ํ
๋ผ์ ๋จํ์
์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์์๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ํ๋๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ํจ๊ป ๋จํ์
์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฌํด ๋ด๋ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํต์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋๋ ฅ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ์ก ์๋๋ณ ๋งค์ถ์ ๊ตฌ๋ถํด์ ๊ณต๊ฐํ์ง๋ ์์ง๋ง, 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ์ด ๋ ์ ํ์ด ์ฌํด, ์ฆ ์ด๋ฒ ์ฐ๋์ ํต์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋๋ ฅ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์คํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 1.6ํ
๋ผ๋ ๋ด๋
๊น์ง๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ์ด์ด๊ฐ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ํ์ฌ ๋ค์ด์ค๊ณ ์๋ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋ ์๋นํ์ง๋ง, 1.6ํ
๋ผ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ ํธ์ด๋ฉฐ, ํฅํ ์์์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ์์ฑ์ ํ๋ณดํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ฐํ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์ธ๊ธํ์๋ฉด, ์ด๊ธฐ ์์ฐ์ 1.6ํ ๋ผ์ฉ EML ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ํฌํ ๋์ค(silicon photonics) ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ชจ๋๋ฅผ ํตํด ์งํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง VCSEL ๊ธฐ๋ฐ 1.6ํ ๋ผ ํธ๋์๋ฒ๋ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฐ์ด ์์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, 1.6T์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ์ ์๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ก์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฝ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Simon Leopold: Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division That's good. And then I heard also you've gotten a qualification on the co-packaged optics. And I'm going to ask about what happens next, which is thinking about the scale-up opportunities. Are we in a time frame yet where you're engaging customers for scale-up architectures? Maybe if you can give us some sense of how to think about that market opportunity, which I imagine may be years away, but I have to guess you're engaged in the engineering aspects already. | **Simon Leopold:** ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฝํจํค์ง ์ตํฑ์ค(co-packaged optics) ๊ด๋ จ ์ธ์ฆ์ ๋ฐ์ผ์ จ๋ค๋ ๋ง์๋ ๋ค์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋จ๊ณ์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์, ๊ท๋ชจ ํ๋ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํด์์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์์ฐ ์ํคํ ์ฒ์ ๋ํด ๋ ผ์ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋จ๊ณ์ธ๊ฐ์? ์ด ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ด์ผ ํ ์ง ๊ฐ์ ์ข ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์๋ง ๋ช ๋ ์ ๋ ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ธด ํ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฏธ ์์ง๋์ด๋ง ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ์ฐธ์ฌํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ค ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์์. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes, certainly. So that CPO purchase order that we received, and it was a massive purchase order, and that's for our a solution based on our high-power CW laser. We're really pleased with that. That is -- initially, that will be deployed in scale out, but we expect that to lead to scale-up deployments over time. And I would say that there is very active engagement and design win progress on scale up, on CPO, all sorts of CPO-related solutions for scale-up across multiple customers. I would call that very active, deep engagements. On the size of the scale-up opportunity, I would say it's actually difficult to size. It is tremendous. Some of the forecasts that we've seen from our customers are very, very large, right? If you think about within the scale-up opportunity, all of that network today, the networks within the racks are electrical. And as those networks convert to optical over the coming years, the amount of optical content that we gain in the scale-up part of the network is just tremendous. And we're very well positioned -- there's a couple of different ways that we expect to supply customers in that space. We can certainly supply them at the component level by providing high-power CW lasers, detectors, fiber optical cable. But we're also planning to supply those customers at a higher level as well. So for instance, external laser sources, the pluggable laser sources that would plug into the front panel, also CPO module assemblies, et cetera. So there's a variety of ways that will support that market. But we see that as a tremendous growth opportunity and scale up. And I wouldn't call it years out. I think it's sooner than that based on the plans that we're seeing from our customers. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ CPO ๊ตฌ๋งค ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ง ๋๊ท๋ชจ์๊ณ , ์ด๋ ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ๋ํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ธฐ์๋ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์(scale out) ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๋ฐฐ์น๋ ์์ ์ด์ง๋ง, ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์
(scale-up) ๋ฐฐ์น๋ก ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์
๊ด๋ จํด์, CPO ๋ฐ ๋ค์ํ CPO ๊ด๋ จ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ๋ํด ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ๋งค์ฐ ํ๋ฐํ ํ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๋์์ธ ์(design win) ์งํ์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ด๊ณ ์ฌ๋ ์๋ ํ๋ ฅ ๊ด๊ณ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ผ์ผ ์ ๊ธฐํ์ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋ํด์๋, ์ฌ์ค ์ ํํ ๊ฐ๋ ํ๊ธฐ ์ด๋ ต์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ํฝ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ถ ์์ธก์น๋ค์ ์ ๋ง ์๋นํ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋๋ค. ์ค์ผ์ผ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ์ฌ ๋ ๋ด๋ถ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋คํธ์ํฌ๋ ์ ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋๋ค. ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋คํธ์ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ดํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ ํ๋๋ฉด์, ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ ์ค์ผ์ผ์ ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๋ณดํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ดํ ์ฝํ ์ธ ์ ์์ ์์ฒญ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๋ฆฌํ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ด ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ , ๊ฒ์ถ๊ธฐ, ๊ด์ฌ์ ์ผ์ด๋ธ ๋ฑ์ ์ ๊ณตํ์ฌ ๋ถํ ์์ค์์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ ๋์ ์์ค์์๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ธํ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ ๋ฉด ํจ๋์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋๋ ํ๋ฌ๊ทธํ ๋ ์ด์ ์์ค์ธ ์ธ์ฅ ๋ ์ด์ ์์ค๋ CPO ๋ชจ๋ ์ด์ ๋ธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฑ์ ๊ณต๊ธํ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ํด๋น ์์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ ์ ์๋ ๋ค์ํ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ ์์ฒญ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ์ด์ ๊ท๋ชจ ํ๋์ ๊ธฐํ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ช ๋ ํ์ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ ์๊ฐํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ณํ๋ค์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋ณผ ๋, ๊ทธ๋ณด๋ค ํจ์ฌ ๋น ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Ruben Roy with Stifel. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Stifel์ Ruben Roy๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Ruben Roy: Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division Jim, I'd like to keep the discussion going on CPO. And it's great to hear about the large order on the time line end of the year into next year. High level, how are you thinking about content in CPO relative to the strength you're seeing currently with 800 gig and the nascent 1.6 terabit module strength? Do you think that these will -- I think the consensus is that these technologies will coexist, but I'd love to get your thoughts on the content opportunity and the growth opportunities as you look out to 2027 as CPO ramps. | **Ruben Roy:** CPO์ ๋ํ ๋ ผ์๋ฅผ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ง์์ ๋ด๋ ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์์์ ๋ฃ๊ฒ ๋์ด ์ ๋ง ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ํฐ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์์ ๋ณผ ๋, ํ์ฌ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์๋ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ธ 1.6ํ ๋ผ๋นํธ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฐ์ธ ๋๋น CPO์ ์ฝํ ์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ปจ์ผ์์ค๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด ๊ณต์กดํ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฑด๋ฐ์, CPO๊ฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉํ๋๋ 2027๋ ์ ๋ด๋ค๋ณด์ค ๋ ์ฝํ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋ํ ์๊ฒฌ์ ๋ฃ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Ruben. Yes, we really view it as it's additive. The way we think about it is pluggable transceivers will remain the dominant form factor and certainly in scale across and in the scale-out networks through at least the rest of this decade, right? So we see very strong growth in those pluggable formats in scale across and scale out over the coming years. And what we see in CPO is CPO starting to get deployed initially in scale-out, and we're seeing that. That was the purchase order that we procured, et cetera. But we believe that CPO -- the big growth in CPO is actually driven by scale up. And that is a very tangible opportunity based on the customer engagements that we have. And that will -- we believe the scale-up CPO opportunity will dwarf the opportunity and scale out. It will be orders of magnitude larger. And so we view that as all incremental TAM for the optical industry in general and certainly for us as well since that network is 100% electrical today, all of that optical content and scale up is incremental TAM. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, ๋ฃจ๋ฒค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์๊ฐํ๊ธฐ์ ํ๋ฌ๊ทธํ ํธ๋์๋ฒ(pluggable transceivers)๋ ์ ์ด๋ ์ด๋ฒ 10๋
์ด ๋๋ ๋๊น์ง๋ ์ค์ผ์ผ ํฌ๋ก์ค(scale across)์ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์(scale-out) ๋คํธ์ํฌ์์ ์ง๋ฐฐ์ ์ธ ํผํฉํฐ๋ก ๋จ์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํฅํ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ ์ค์ผ์ผ ํฌ๋ก์ค์ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์์์ ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ฌ๊ทธํ ํฌ๋งท์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. CPO์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ด๊ธฐ์๋ ์ค์ผ์ผ ์์์ ๋จผ์ ๋ฐฐ์น๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ์งํ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํ๋ณดํ ๊ตฌ๋งค ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ๊ทธ ์์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง CPO์ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ฌ์ค ์ค์ผ์ผ ์ (scale up)์ ์ํด ์ฃผ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏฟ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ํ์ฌ ์งํ ์ค์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ์ ํ๋ ฅ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ๋ณผ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ง์ ์ธ ๊ธฐํ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ค์ผ์ผ์ CPO ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์ค์ผ์ผ์์ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์๋ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏฟ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฉด์์ ๋ช ๋ฐฐ๋ ๋ ํด ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ดํ ์ฐ์ ์ ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์คํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฆ๋ถ TAM(Total Addressable Market, ์ ์ฒด ์ ์ฌ ์์ฅ)์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํด๋น ๋คํธ์ํฌ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ 100% ์ ๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์ค์ผ์ผ์ ์์ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ดํ ์ฝํ ์ธ ๊ฐ ์ฆ๋ถ TAM์ด ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Ruben Roy: Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division That's helpful. And a quick follow-up is you talked about 800 gig versus 1.6 terabit mix. And just wondering, I assume you're starting to see some demand for 200 gig and differential EMLs and that type of thing. As you think about later this year into next year and sort of the mix, what are the margin implications as you approach 40% gross margins here on the modules themselves? | **Ruben Roy:** ๋์์ด ๋์ จ๋ค๋ ๋คํ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋จํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋๋น 1.6ํ ๋ผ๋นํธ ๋ฏน์ค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. 200๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ฐจ๋ EML ๊ฐ์ ์ ํ๋ค์ ๋ํ ์์๋ ๋ณด์ด๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๋ถํฐ ๋ด๋ ๊น์ง ์ ํ ๋ฏน์ค๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ์ค ๋, ๋ชจ๋ ์์ฒด์์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ 40%์ ๊ทผ์ ํ๋ฉด์ ๋ง์ง์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ด ์์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. The 1.6T gross margins, we expect to be higher. Generally, what we see as an industry is with each new data rate, the ASPs of each new data rate go up over the prior data rate. So we expect 1.6 -- we're seeing 1.6T ASPs that are higher than 800 gig. And then generally, especially at the beginning of the life cycle of the data rate, the gross margins are higher. So we expect 1.6T gross margins to be higher. And so it's -- we view 1.6T ramp as margin accretive for us. And then certainly -- just one other point to also factor in that is as we ramp 6-inch indium phosphide capacity, which supports both 800 gig and 1.6T transceivers, that 6-inch capacity is a gross margin driver for us as well in our transceiver business. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, 1.6T์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์
๊ณ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์๋ก์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ์ก๋ฅ ์ด ๋์ฌ ๋๋ง๋ค ์ด์ ์ธ๋ ๋๋น ํ๊ท ํ๋งค๊ฐ๊ฒฉ(ASP)์ด ์์นํ๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก 1.6T์ ASP๊ฐ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋นํธ๋ณด๋ค ๋๊ฒ ํ์ฑ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํนํ ์๋ก์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ์ก๋ฅ ์ ํ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋ผ์ดํ์ฌ์ดํด์์๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ๋ ๋์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ 1.6T์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ๋ ๋์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ 1.6T ๋จํ์
์ด ๋ง์ง ์ฆ๋ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ฌ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ํ๋จํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ ๊ณ ๋ คํด์ผ ํ ์ ์ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ๋์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋นํธ์ 1.6T ํธ๋์๋ฒ ๋ชจ๋๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ด 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ ์์ธ์ผ๋ก ์์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Thomas O'Malley with Barclays. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Barclays์ Thomas O'Malley๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Thomas O'Malley: Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division Jim, in the preamble, you talked about a book-to-bill ratio that exceeded 4x as customer demand continues to increase and customers are placing orders further out in time. Obviously, a lot of really good opportunities in the data center segment, but maybe you could spend some time talking about the components of that backlog. Where is the greatest area of strength? Obviously, you have the OCS side, on the module side, on the laser side. Maybe spend a little time just measuring out those vectors to give us a little bit of a feel for what's contributing to most of that strength given we're hearing from others in the industry a lot on specific numbers. I know you don't do that, but anything that you can to help us on that? | **Thomas O'Malley:** ์๋์์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๋ ๋งค์ถ ๋น์จ(book-to-bill ratio)์ด 4๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ์ด๊ณผํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์์๊ฐ ๊ณ์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ๋จผ ๋ฏธ๋๊น์ง ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์๋ฏธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์ด ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช ํ์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ(backlog)์ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์๋ค์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ฐ์ฅ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ ์์ญ์ด ์ด๋์ธ๊ฐ์? OCS ์ชฝ๋ ์๊ณ , ๋ชจ๋ ์ชฝ๋ ์๊ณ , ๋ ์ด์ ์ชฝ๋ ์๋๋ฐ์. ์ ๊ณ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ์ฌ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์น๋ค์ ๋ง์ด ๋ฃ๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์์, ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์ธ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ธ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๊ฐ์ ์ก์ ์ ์๋๋ก ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ณ๋ก ์ข ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์์น๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐํ์ง ์์ผ์ ๋ค๋ ๊ฑด ์์ง๋ง, ๋์์ด ๋ ๋งํ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Thomas. In terms of that book-to-bill last quarter, I would say the majority of that -- vast majority was driven by 800 gig and 1.6T transceiver bookings. It's a combination of growth that we expected from 800 gig, continued growth, even maybe stronger -- a little bit stronger than we had expected and then an acceleration in 1.6T. So both 800 gig and 1.6T bookings were incredibly strong. We expect that to continue into this quarter as well. In addition to that, bookings for OCS contributed last quarter. And if I look at the current quarter and what we're expecting in bookings, we expect it to be another incredibly strong quarter in terms of bookings. And it's really a combination of those 4 things I mentioned, primarily 800 gig and 1.6T transceiver bookings. Over time, it starts to be more and more 1.6T bookings. And then I would say, CPO and OCS as well. So those are really the main drivers within the data center bucket of bookings. The other place where we are seeing very strong bookings is in the communications business. So I would say the growth that we're seeing in DCI, data center interconnect products is very, very strong. That's growing faster than our overall growth rate in communications, but we continue to see strong demand beyond DCI in the kind of traditional telecom space as well. So that would be the other place where we're seeing strong bookings. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Thomas. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ถ-ํฌ-๋น(book-to-bill) ๋น์จ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์์ฃผ์์ ๋น๋กฏ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์์ ์์ํ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ, ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ, ์ด์ฉ๋ฉด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ๊ฐํ ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ 1.6ํ
๋ผ์ ๊ฐ์ํ๊ฐ ๊ฒฐํฉ๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ์์ฃผ ๋ชจ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ถ์ธ๋ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๊ณ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ๋ํด OCS ์์ฃผ๋ ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ์์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ฃผ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ 4๊ฐ์ง ์์์ ์กฐํฉ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ฃผ๋ก 800๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์์ฃผ๊ฐ ํต์ฌ์
๋๋ค. ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ ์ ๋ 1.6ํ
๋ผ ์์ฃผ ๋น์ค์ด ์ปค์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ CPO์ OCS๋ ํฌํจ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ๋ค์ด ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์์ฃผ์ ์ฃผ์ ๋์ธ์
๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ฃผ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์์ญ์ ํต์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋๋ค. DCI, ์ฆ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ธํฐ์ปค๋ฅํธ ์ ํ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํต์ ์ฌ์ ์ ์ฒด ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, DCI ์ธ์๋ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ํต์ ๋ถ์ผ์์๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐํ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ญ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Thomas O'Malley: Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division And then just as a follow-up, you talked about indium phosphide capacity doubling by year-end. Your competitor talked about 40% increases, which they're kind of blowing through in a short period of time. It seems like the industry is bringing a lot of supply online. Broadcom is talking about some additional capacity as well. Maybe talk about when you see the industry getting product that it needs? Are we still in a position where the industry is short? And just given the incremental capacity additions, when do you think you'll be at equilibrium in that business? | **Thomas O'Malley:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก, ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์ฐ๋ง๊น์ง ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ 40% ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ๊ณ , ๋จ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ณ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์๋นํ ๊ณต๊ธ ๋ฌผ๋์ด ํฌ์ ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ธ๋ก๋์ปด๋ ์ถ๊ฐ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์. ์ ๊ณ๊ฐ ํ์ํ ์ ํ์ ์ธ์ ์ฏค ํ๋ณดํ ์ ์์์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ์ฌ์ ํ ๊ณต๊ธ ๋ถ์กฑ ์ํฉ์ธ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฆ๋ถ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ ๋, ์ด ์ฌ์ ์์ ์๊ธ ๊ท ํ์ด ์ธ์ ์ฏค ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes, it's a great question. It seems like every quarter, we think we're going to catch up and then the demand keeps increasing. So I don't foresee the supply/demand getting back in balance this calendar year. I don't think it happens next calendar year. And if the forecast that we're seeing from customers for indium phosphide laser supply that they need for scale up, I think we could be in a very sustained long period of supply-demand imbalance on indium phosphide, which is exactly why we're super focused on ramping our 6-inch capacity as quickly as possible. That near-term goal is to double our capacity by the end of this year, but we're driving goals beyond that, that are very aggressive in terms of our continued ramp of indium phosphide capacity. And the demand that we're seeing from the customers absorbs all of that capacity and then some. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ์์๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ผ์ก์ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง, ๊ณ์ํด์ ์์๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฌํด ์์ ์๊ธ ๊ท ํ์ด ๋ง์ถฐ์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ณด์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ ์๋ ์ด๋ ค์ธ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๋ ์ด์ ๊ณต๊ธ ํ๋ ๊ด๋ จ ์์ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์๋นํ ์ค๋ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ ๊ณต๊ธ-์์ ๋ถ๊ท ํ์ด ์ง์๋ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ์ด์ ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ต๋ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ๋ํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋จ๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ๋ ์ฌํด ๋ง๊น์ง ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ ์ดํ์๋ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ๋ชฉํ๋ค์ ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ํ์ธ๋๊ณ ์๋ ์์๊ฐ ํด๋น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ์ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ํก์ํ๊ณ ๋ ๋จ์ ์ ๋์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Blayne Curtis with Jefferies. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ค์ ๋ธ๋ ์ธ ์ปคํฐ์ค๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Ezra Weener: Jefferies LLC, Research Division Ezra Weener on for Blayne. Just the first one, obviously, component pricing is coming up for your externally sourced components. But at the same time, you guys are signing LTAs. Can you talk a little bit about pricing and how you're thinking about gross margins within that context? | **Ezra Weener:** ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ค์ ์์ฆ๋ผ ์๋์ ๋๋ค. ๋ธ๋ ์ธ ๋์ ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ์, ์ธ๋ถ ์กฐ๋ฌ ๋ถํ์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ์์นํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ๋์์ ๊ท์ฌ๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ณ์ฝ(LTA)์ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ํฉ์์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ๊ณผ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. In terms of input costs, I think you're talking about input costs to our pricing. Yes, we view it as -- we are seeing some higher pricing input costs with respect to externally sourced things like EMLs. But that is really offset by our internal indium phosphide ramp, right? So I would say the net is -- we're in a much better position over the coming quarters as we continue to rapidly expand our indium phosphide production capacity, and that's a gross margin benefit for us. So the net is positive for us. So we feel pretty good in terms of our position with respect to indium phosphide cost. Another way to look at it is any time the kind of market price of indium phosphide goes up, it makes our internally sourced indium phosphide that much more valuable, right, in terms of a differential. And then I would say in terms of our own pricing, we continue to see the ability to continue to optimize pricing. I think Sherri mentioned in her prepared remarks that some of our gross margin improvement last quarter was based on pricing optimization. We continue to see opportunity to optimize pricing, especially in an environment where demand is very strong. And so we believe we're in a good pricing environment across all of our businesses. And maybe, Sherri, do you want to comment any more on the effects of gross margin? Or did that cover it? | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ์ ๋ํ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ์ ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ EML๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ด ์ธ๋ถ์์ ์กฐ๋ฌํ๋ ๋ถํ๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๋ค์ ๋์ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ ์์น์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ด๋ถ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ์์๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ํจ๊ณผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ค์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ์ฅํด ๋๊ฐ๋ฉด์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋์ ์์น์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ (gross margin)์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ํฅ์ ์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ํจ๊ณผ๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ ๋น์ฉ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ์ ํฌ ์ ์ฅ์ด ์๋นํ ์ข๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋(indium phosphide)์ ์์ฅ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ด ์ค๋ฅผ ๋๋ง๋ค ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์กฐ๋ฌํ๋ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋์ ๊ฐ์น๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋งํผ ๋ ๋์์ง๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฐจ์ด ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ฒด ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ฑ ์ ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋, ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ๋ฅผ ์งํํ ์ ์๋ ์ฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. Sherri๊ฐ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ (gross margin) ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐํ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ ์์๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐํ ํ๊ฒฝ์์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๊ณ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ข์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ๋จํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. Sherri, ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํจ๊ณผ์ ๋ํด ๋ ์ธ๊ธํ์ค ๋ด์ฉ์ด ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ์ด ์ ๋๋ฉด ์ถฉ๋ถํ๊ฐ์? |
| CFO & Treasurer: Yes, sure. Just a couple of things I can add. When you look at the improvement that we saw both quarter-on-quarter and sequentially in gross margin, quarter-on-quarter and year-over-year, key elements of that were certainly cost reductions where we saw lower product input costs and the Datacenter & Communications part of our business was actually an area where we saw more of the magnitude of that benefit. We had lower product input costs for key elements, larger components of our BOM. So that was really good to see. We also had improvements in the manufacturing process that enabled greater throughput and efficiency and yield improvements. And again, that was in the data center part of our business. So that was really good to see as well. And then on the pricing optimization side, we actually sequentially saw an even greater improvement in pricing optimization in a number of areas in our business. So these are key elements of our gross margin expansion strategy that we've rolled out as part of our strategy at our Investor Day last year, and we're continuing to focus on that. Really pleased with the progress that we've made to date on that. And in fact, the other thing I'll add is that if you look at our 39% gross margin for this most recent quarter that we achieved and you compare that to where we -- our FY '24 gross margin, we've actually improved our gross margin by about 470 basis points through the elements of the strategy that I've described here. So I'm really pleased with the progress. We're still -- I would consider to be in our early stages as we continue to drive toward that greater than 42% target. | **CFO & Treasurer:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๋ชจ๋์์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํต์ฌ ์์๋ ํ์คํ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋ฎ์์ก๊ณ , ํนํ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ด๋ฌํ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ฌ์ต๋๋ค. BOM์ ์ฃผ์ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ์์์ธ ํต์ฌ ๋ถํ๋ค์ ์ ํ ํฌ์ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋ฎ์์ก์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ ๋ง ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ์กฐ ๊ณต์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํตํด ์ฒ๋ฆฌ๋๊ณผ ํจ์จ์ฑ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์จ์ด ํฅ์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ญ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ํ๋ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ ์ธก๋ฉด์์๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ์ ์์ญ์์ ์์ฐจ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋์ฑ ํฐ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์์๋ค์ ์๋ ํฌ์์์ ๋ ํ์ฌ์์ ๋ฐํํ ์ ๋ต์ ์ผํ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํด์จ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํ๋ ์ ๋ต์ ํต์ฌ ์์๋ค์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ๊น์ง ์ด๋ฃฌ ์ฑ๊ณผ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ 39%์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ 2024 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ณผ ๋น๊ตํด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ ๊ฐ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฐ ์ ๋ต ์์๋ค์ ํตํด ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฝ 470bp(๋ฒ ์ด์์ค ํฌ์ธํธ) ๊ฐ์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฌ์ด ์ง์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. 42% ์ด์์ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ํฅํด ๊ณ์ ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์๋ ์ค์ ๋๋ค. |
| Ezra Weener: Jefferies LLC, Research Division Got it. And then for the follow-up, I just wanted to ask about the 6-inch ramp and kind of the timing of that and also what the long term looks like. So how should we expect that to layer in? And longer term, do you expect the heavy majority of your capacity to be 6-inch? And can you talk a little bit about the advantage of that relative to peers? | **Ezra Weener:** ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก 6์ธ์น ๋จํ์ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์๊ธฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์ผ๋ก ์งํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ ์ฒด ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ด 6์ธ์น๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ์๋์? ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ ๋๋น ๊ทธ ์ฅ์ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. On the second part of the question over the long term, yes, essentially all of the capacity that we're adding now is 6-inch. We're adding a little bit of 3-inch, but all of the -- but beyond that, the vast majority is 6-inch capacity, and that will continue. So over time, 6-inch capacity will just become more and more a bigger percentage. And if you think about us doubling capacity year-over-year, and almost all of that coming from 6-inch. The other way to think about it is by the end of this calendar year, about half of our capacity will be 6-inch, and it will grow from there in the following years. And in terms of the ramp progress, as I shared, in terms of wafer starts, we're already at 80% of that goal to double our capacity this year. We have plans to significantly expand it beyond just doubling capacity in the following years. It's a little too early to talk about that. But as we get -- move throughout this year, I'll give some guideposts on future years and the expected continued ramp of indium phosphide. And then I think you asked about cost structure advantage. Yes. So the basic cost structure advantage is a 6-inch wafer compared to a 3-inch wafer. You get over 4x as many product out of that wafer at less than half the cost. So it's a tremendous cost savings. And that's been a key factor in, I think, why our customers have been selecting us as well. So for instance, that very large high-power CW purchase order that we just received, a big reason for that was because that high-power CW laser will be manufactured on 6-inch indium phosphate and it will be made in Sherman, Texas, U.S.-based manufacturing. So that's definitely something that's factoring into our customers' decisions on why to select Coherent is that advantage in 6-inch capacity and the location of it. | **James Anderson:** ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ฉด ํ์ฌ ์ถ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ฌ์ค์ ์ ๋ถ 6์ธ์น์ ๋๋ค. 3์ธ์น๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ถ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ ์ธ์๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ด 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ์ถ์ธ๋ ๊ณ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋น์ค์ด ์ ์ ๋ ์ปค์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ถ์ ๊ฑฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ฐ 6์ธ์น์์ ๋์จ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ค๋ช ํ์๋ฉด, ์ฌํด ๋ง๊น์ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ฝ ์ ๋ฐ์ด 6์ธ์น๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ์ดํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ๊ทธ ๋น์ค์ ๋์ฑ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋จํ ์งํ ์ํฉ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ, ์จ์ดํผ ํฌ์ ๋(wafer starts) ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ฌํด ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๋ชฉํ์ ์ด๋ฏธ 80%๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ๋จ์ํ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๋์ด ๋ํญ ํ์ฅํ ๊ณํ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ด๋ฆ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌํด๊ฐ ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ํฅํ ์ฐ๋์ ๋ํ ๊ฐ์ด๋๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋(indium phosphide)์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฆ์ค ๊ณํ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ ์ฐ์์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธํ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ์, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๋น์ฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ ์ฐ์๋ 3์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ ๋๋น 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ์์ ๋์ต๋๋ค. 6์ธ์น ์จ์ดํผ์์๋ ์ ๋ฐ๋ ์ ๋๋ ๋น์ฉ์ผ๋ก 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์์ ์ ํ์ ์์ฐํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฒญ๋ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ ํจ๊ณผ์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ ํํ๋ ํต์ฌ ์์ธ ์ค ํ๋๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ์ต๊ทผ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ฃผํ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฑด์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์ด์ ์ค ํ๋๋ ํด๋น ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฐ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ดํธ(indium phosphate) ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ ์กฐ๋๊ณ , ํ ์ฌ์ค์ฃผ ์ ๋จผ์ ์์นํ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ด ์์ฐ์์ค์์ ๋ง๋ค์ด์ง๋ค๋ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ฝํ์ด๋ฐํธ๋ฅผ ์ ํํ๋ ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐ์ ํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด์, 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ ์ญ๋๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์์ฐ ์ ์ง๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์ค์ํ ์์๋ก ์์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Papa Sylla with Citigroup. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์จํฐ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ Papa Sylla๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Papa Sylla: Citigroup Inc., Research Division Congrats on the results. So Jim, I guess my first question is on indium phosphide capacity ramp as well. So any way you can update us at this point on the mix of your internally kind of developed indium phosphide transceivers. I believe previously, you reached 50% or so. Any color on where we are at this point? And perhaps ties to that as well, do you have any target in mind on longer term, what kind of mix you are looking at? | **Papa Sylla:** ์ค์ ์ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. Jim, ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ๋์ ๊ดํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ ์์ ์์ฒด ๊ฐ๋ฐํ ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋ ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ๋น์ค์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ์ด์ ์ 50% ์ ๋ ๋๋ฌํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ํ์ฌ๋ ์ด๋ ์์ค์ธ์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ๊ด๋ จํด์, ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ชฉํํ์๋ ๋น์ค์ด ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง๋ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Papa. What we said in the past to what we've shared is that, in the past, our amount of indium phosphide internal versus external supply is the majority of our indium phosphide, for instance, lasers are supplied from internal sources. And now if I look forward, I would expect, just given the rapid pace of our 6-inch production over the coming -- this year and following years, I think the percentage that's internally sourced will grow over time. Now that said, we expect to continue to utilize external suppliers as well. We think there's good reasons for that with customers and with supply chain resiliency. And so we expect to continue to utilize external sources. But over time, the internal sources will become a bigger proportion of the supply. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๋ด๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ๊ณผ ์ธ๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ ๋น์จ์์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ, ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๋ ์ด์ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๋ด๋ถ ์์ค์์ ๊ณต๊ธ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฌํด์ ํฅํ ๋ช ๋
๊ฐ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ์ด ๋น ๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์งํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ฐ์ํ ๋, ๋ด๋ถ ์กฐ๋ฌ ๋น์จ์ด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋จ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง, ์ธ๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ ๊ณ์ ํ์ฉํ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด๊ณ์ ๊ณต๊ธ๋ง ์์ ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ธ๋ถ ์์ค๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฉํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ๋ด๋ถ ๊ณต๊ธ์์ด ์ ์ฒด ๊ณต๊ธ์์ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋น์ค์ด ์ ์ ๋ ์ปค์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Papa Sylla: Citigroup Inc., Research Division Got it. That's helpful. And for my follow-up is kind of on OCS. It's very good to hear that your engagement is growing. I think it was 7 now kind of it went up to 10 now. So it would be helpful if you can remind us kind of the prior 7, what kind of workload was those 7 engagement or kind of projects related to? And also for the additional 3 as well? Any color on are those AI focused or what kind of workloads they are kind of related to? | **Papa Sylla:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์์ด ๋๋ ๋ต๋ณ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ OCS์ ๊ดํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์์์ ๋ฃ๊ฒ ๋์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ฐ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ธฐ์ต์ผ๋ก๋ 7๊ฐ์๋ค๊ฐ ์ด์ 10๊ฐ๋ก ๋์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด์ 7๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ ๊ฑด๋ค์ด ์ด๋ค ์ํฌ๋ก๋๋ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์๋์ง ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ 3๊ฐ ๊ฑด์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ก์. ์ด๋ค์ด AI์ ์ง์ค๋ ๊ฒ์ธ์ง, ์๋๋ฉด ์ด๋ค ์ข ๋ฅ์ ์ํฌ๋ก๋์ ๊ด๋ จ๋์ด ์๋์ง ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, Papa. Yes, I'll talk in terms of applications that we're seeing in OCS. I think initially, we were seeing OCS adoption in -- where OCS has historically been used, for instance, in a spine part of the network or in a redundancy type of application. But as we've engaged with more customers and as we've engaged more deeply with existing customers, there's been sort of a broadening of the applications that we're seeing for OCS. So whereas maybe initially, most of the applications were in the scale-out portion of the network, we're certainly seeing now applications of OCS even in the DCI portion of the network. And as we're deeply engaged with customers on their scale-up plans, so optical within scale up, we're now seeing customers talking about using OCS within scale-up networks as well. And so it's really been a broadening of not just customers but applications. And that's why when we assessed the size of this market a year ago, we assessed it at about -- I think it was about $2 billion by the end of this decade. That we likely undersized it. And if we reassess it now, it will be well above $2 billion. So we've seen customers and applications just continue to grow. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. OCS์์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ธฐ์๋ OCS๊ฐ ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ์ฉ๋์ด ์จ ๋ถ์ผ, ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ ์คํ์ธ(spine) ๋ถ๋ถ์ด๋ ๋ฆฌ๋๋์(redundancy) ์ ํ์ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์์ OCS ๋์ ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ํ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ ๊น์ด ๊ด์ฌํ๋ฉด์, OCS๋ฅผ ์ํ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ๋ฒ์๊ฐ ํ๋๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ธฐ์๋ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ด ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ ์ค์ผ์ผ์์(scale-out) ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์์๋ค๋ฉด, ์ด์ ๋ ๋คํธ์ํฌ์ DCI ๋ถ๋ถ์์๋ OCS ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ํ์คํ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ์ฅ ๊ณํ์ ๊น์ด ๊ด์ฌํ๋ฉด์, ๊ดํ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ฅ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ์ด์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํ์ฅ ๋คํธ์ํฌ ๋ด์์๋ OCS๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ ผ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋จ์ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ง์ด ์๋๋ผ ์์ฉ ๋ถ์ผ๋ ํ๋๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ 1๋ ์ ์ด ์์ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ๊ฐํ์ ๋ 2030๋ ๊น์ง ์ฝ 20์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ๋๋ก ์ถ์ ํ๋๋ฐ, ์๋ง๋ ๊ณผ์ํ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ๋ค์ ํ๊ฐํ๋ค๋ฉด 20์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ํจ์ฌ ์ํํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์์ฉ ๋ถ์ผ๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from George Notter with Wolfe Research. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wolfe Research์ George Notter๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Wolfe Research, LLC: I just wanted to come back and ask about your ability to manufacture all the stuff. Obviously, the demand is quite impressive right now. I think we hit the kind of indium phosphide discussion pretty well. But I'm just curious like transceiver supply in Malaysia, Vietnam. Obviously, you've got a big telecom business as well. I'd be curious on like what things look like in terms of utilization rates? Do you have enough capacity? Do you need to expand capacity? And then any sense that you'd look to use outsourcing as well? | **Wolfe Research, LLC:** ์ ์กฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ญ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์๊ฐ ์๋นํ ์ธ์์ ์ธ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๊ด๋ จ ๋ ผ์๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๋ค๋ฃฌ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์. ๋ง๋ ์ด์์์ ๋ฒ ํธ๋จ์ ํธ๋์๋ฒ(transceiver) ๊ณต๊ธ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ํต์ ์ฌ์ ๋ ํฌ๊ฒ ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์์์์. ๊ฐ๋๋ฅ (utilization rate) ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ํํฉ์ด ์ด๋ค์ง, ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ(capacity)์ด ์ถฉ๋ถํ์ง, ์ฆ์ค์ด ํ์ํ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์์์ฑ(outsourcing) ํ์ฉ๋ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks, George. Yes. So we've been more focused on updating you on indium phosphide capacity because that's kind of been the constraint across the industry, and we've been constrained by that. But in parallel, we have certainly been building out capacity of, for instance, transceiver assembly and test. So I shared last quarter that within Malaysia, we opened a new facility within Malaysia, second facility in Penang, Malaysia. We also are now planning to build transceivers at our Vietnam facility. So Vietnam already makes a number of the components that go into our transceivers. We're now starting to build transceivers within Vietnam. So that's an expansion. So we've been expanding assembly and test capacity. We're also expanding -- you mentioned about telecom for our DCI and telecom products, we're also rapidly expanding capacity for that as well. So yes, I would say really across the board, we're ramping capacity as quickly as possible. I feel like that's kind of my main job right now is ramping capacity. And so yes, given the strong demand that we're seeing, that's definitely a focus across the organization and across many different product lines. And then I think you asked about outsourcing as well. Yes, we are very open to outsourcing, and we do use a number of different partners for outsourcing. And the way we always approach it is if something provides us -- if manufacturing something provides us a technical -- like a technology benefit that our customers care about or if it provides a cost structure benefit, then we'll do it in-house. But if it doesn't do -- provide either one of those 2 benefits, then yes, we will look to outsource. And there's a number of places where we've historically outsourced and things that we're looking at moving forward. So what we keep in-sourced is things that are technically beneficial to our products and cost structure advantage. Obvious example of that is 6-inch indium phosphide, where we're the world's only producer of 6-inch indium phosphide. So yes, we're certainly open to outsourcing, and we'll continue to look for opportunities to leverage outsourcing. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์กฐ์ง. ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๋ ์ง์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ์
๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋๋ ค์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์
๊ณ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๋ณ๋ชฉ ๊ตฌ๊ฐ์ด์๊ณ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์ ์ฝ์ ๋ฐ์์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋์์ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์กฐ๋ฆฝ ๋ฐ ํ
์คํธ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ๋ ํ์คํ ํ์ฅํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ง๋ ์ด์์ ๋ด์์ ์๋ก์ด ์์ค์ ์ด์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋๋ฐ, ํ๋ญ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์์ค์ ๊ฐ์คํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ํ์ฌ ๋ฒ ํธ๋จ ์์ค์์๋ ํธ๋์๋ฒ๋ฅผ ์์ฐํ ๊ณํ์ ์ธ์ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฒ ํธ๋จ์์๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถํ๋ค์ ์ ์กฐํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด์ ๋ฒ ํธ๋จ ๋ด์์ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์์ฐ์ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ํ์ฅ์ ์ผํ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์กฐ๋ฆฝ ๋ฐ ํ
์คํธ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ณ์ ํ๋ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ธํฐ์ปค๋ฅํธ(DCI)์ ํต์ ์ ํ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ํ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ฆ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ ์ ์ฃผ์ ์
๋ฌด๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ก ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ ํ๋๋ผ๊ณ ํด๋ ๊ณผ์ธ์ด ์๋๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ํ ๋, ์ด๋ ํ์คํ ์กฐ์ง ์ ๋ฐ๊ณผ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ ํ ๋ผ์ธ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์
๋๋ค. ์์์์ฑ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ง๋ฌธํ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ๋ค, ์์์์ฑ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ฐฉ์ ์ธ ์ ์ฅ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌ๋ฌ ํํธ๋์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ์์์์ฑ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํญ์ ์ ๊ทผํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ด๋ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค ์ ํ์ ์ง์ ์ ์กฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ด์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฑฐ๋, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ค์ํ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํํ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ฑฐ๋, ๋๋ ๋น์ฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์์ ์ด์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ค๋ฉด ์ฌ๋ด์์ ์์ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ด์ ์ค ์ด๋ ๊ฒ๋ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ๋ชปํ๋ค๋ฉด, ์์์์ฑ์ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์์์ฑํด ์จ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ณณ ์๊ณ , ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ฌ๋ด์์ ์ ์งํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ ํ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ฆฌํ๊ณ ๋น์ฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ด์ ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋๋ค. ๋ช ํํ ์๊ฐ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋(indium phosphide)์ธ๋ฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ์ธ๊ณ์์ ์ ์ผํ๊ฒ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋๋ฅผ ์์ฐํ๋ ์ ์ฒด์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค, ์ ํฌ๋ ์์์์ฑ์ ๋ํด ํ์คํ ์ด๋ ค ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์์์ฑ์ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๋ชจ์ํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Karl Ackerman with BNP Paribas Asset Management. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ BNP ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ ์์ฐ์ด์ฉ์ ์นผ ์ ์ปค๋จผ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Karl Ackerman: BNP Paribas, Research Division Jim, thanks for more detail on the growth magnitude into 2027. But could you speak to the investments you're making today to drive growth and whether OpEx growth could grow at perhaps half of sales growth? I asked because in March, I would have thought you'd see maybe less growth, more stability in OpEx from the sale of Materials Processing business. So if you could tie that together to, that would be helpful. And I have a follow-up, please. | **Karl Ackerman:** BNP ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. Jim, 2027๋ ๊น์ง์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋ํด ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์งํ ์ค์ธ ํฌ์์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์๋น(OpEx) ์ฆ๊ฐ์จ์ด ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ ์์ค์ด ๋ ์ ์์์ง์? ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๋ ์ด์ ๋ 3์์๋ Materials Processing ์ฌ์ ๋งค๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ์ด์๋น๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ณด๋ค๋ ์์ ํ๋๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐํด์ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Maybe I'll let Sherri talk about the OpEx growth, but maybe just a little bit of a preamble is from an OpEx standpoint, maybe from an R&D standpoint, our approach is we have a large number of businesses that have tremendous growth ahead of them. And we want to make sure we're maximizing that opportunity. And so if those businesses require R&D, we're certainly going to scale the R&D to maximize the opportunity. I think and we'll certainly scale at revenue, maybe a little bit less than revenue. But I think the big opportunity to drive operational leverage is in SG&A. And so maybe with that, I'll hand it off to Sherri to maybe provide some additional comments on that. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ์ ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด์๋น ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ํ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค๋ง, ๋จผ์ ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด ์ด์๋น ๊ด์ ์์, ํนํ R&D ๊ด์ ์์ ์ ํฌ ์ ๊ทผ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์์ผ๋ก ์์ฒญ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๊ธฐ๋๋๋ ๋ค์์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ์ต๋ํ ํ์ฉํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํด๋น ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ค์ด R&D๋ฅผ ํ์๋ก ํ๋ค๋ฉด, ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ๊ทน๋ํํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๋น์ฐํ R&D๋ฅผ ํ๋ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ํ๋ํ๋, ์๋ง ๋งค์ถ๋ณด๋ค๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ฎ์ ์์ค์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ํฐ ๊ธฐํ๋ ํ๊ด๋น(SG&A)์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ด์ ์ ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ๋๊ฒจ์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์๊ฒฌ์ ๋ค์ด๋ณด๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| CFO & Treasurer: Sure, absolutely. Thanks for the question, Karl. So from an OpEx perspective, on the R&D front, as Jim said, I mean, we're focused on making those investments that drive the long-term growth of the company. And when you look at our year-over-year R&D growth, you see that it increased 16%. So we're definitely investing in R&D, and those areas are very heavily in Datacenter & Communications part of our business because that's where we're seeing the long-term growth. And so that's very important. But on the flip side of it, from an SG&A perspective, the target that we put out at our Investor Day for SG&A was 8% of revenue. And that is -- we've got a little ways to go. We've certainly made improvement. I'm really with the progress that we've made on that, where sequentially and year-over-year, we are -- have come down in terms of as a percentage of revenue and are driving towards that target. And then on the R&D side of it, just to complete the picture, the target that we've given at our Investor Day was 10% of revenue. And so we're focused on making those investments. I think it's just a matter of how fast you can spend because certainly, the commitment is there, and we want to make sure that we make those investments. And so I'm pleased with the investments we've made to date, and that's the way that we're going to continue looking at this, right, investing in R&D, but at the same time, trying to get more efficiency and leverage out of SG&A. So that's how you can kind of think about it going forward. | **CFO & Treasurer:** ๋ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Karl. ์ด์๋น์ฉ(OpEx) ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, R&D ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ Jim์ด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ํ์ฌ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์ธํ๋ ํฌ์์ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ๋๋น R&D ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ๋ณด์๋ฉด 16% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์คํ R&D์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ (Datacenter & Communications) ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ๋ํ๋๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ฉด์ ํ๋งค๊ด๋ฆฌ๋น(SG&A) ๊ด์ ์์๋, ํฌ์์์ ๋ (Investor Day)์์ ์ ์ํ ๋ชฉํ๊ฐ ๋งค์ถ์ 8%์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ง ๊ฐ ๊ธธ์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋จ์์์ง๋ง, ํ์คํ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฃฌ ์ง์ ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น๋ ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๋ชจ๋ ๋งค์ถ ๋๋น ๋น์ค์ด ๊ฐ์ํ๊ณ , ๋ชฉํ์น๋ฅผ ํฅํด ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ R&D ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ ์ฒด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ ์์ฑํ์๋ฉด, ํฌ์์์ ๋ ์ ์ ์ํ ๋ชฉํ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ 10%์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ์คํํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฑด ๋จ์ง ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ง์ถํ ์ ์๋๋์ ๋ฌธ์ ๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์คํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ง๋ ํ๊ณ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ํฌ์๋ฅผ ํ์คํ ์คํํ๊ณ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ๊น์ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ ํฌ์์ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ ์ ๊ทผํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. R&D์ ํฌ์ํ๋ฉด์ ๋์์ SG&A์์๋ ๋ ๋ง์ ํจ์จ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. |
| Karl Ackerman: BNP Paribas, Research Division Very helpful. And for my follow-up, at SPIE, you presented several new products across your industrial portfolio, and you spoke about improving orders today in semi cap. Are you seeing a marked recovery across your broader industrial business, excluding semi cap? Or is it too early to call out definitively yet? | **Karl Ackerman:** ๋งค์ฐ ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก, SPIE์์ ์ฐ์ ํฌํธํด๋ฆฌ์ค ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ ์ ํ์ ๋ฐํํ์ จ๊ณ , ์ค๋ ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น๋ฅผ ์ ์ธํ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฐ์ ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ๋๋ ทํ ํ๋ณต์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? ์๋๋ฉด ์์ง ํ์คํ๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด๋ฅธ ์์ ์ธ๊ฐ์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes, good question. I would say across broader industrial, it's probably too early to call out a broad-based industrial recovery, but we're certainly seeing a very strong pickup in semi cap. So we saw strong orders in the prior quarter in our December quarter. And we expect those orders to start to generate sequential revenue growth for us in our June quarter and through the second half of this calendar year as well. Semi-cap is a big segment for us. And so a pickup in growth in orders there is meaningful for us. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ ์ฐ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ์๋ ์์ง ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ฐ์ ํ๋ณต์ธ๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด๋ฅธ ๊ฐ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น(semi cap) ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ํ์คํ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ํ๋ณต์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 12์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐํ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ๋ค์ด 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ์์ฐจ์ ์ธ ๋งค์ถ ์ฑ์ฅ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ด์ง ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ด๋ด ์ด๋ฐ ํ๋ฆ์ด ์ง์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋์ฒด ์ฅ๋น๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ํฐ ๋น์ค์ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ์๋นํ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์ผ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Our next question comes from Ryan Koontz with Needham & Co. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Needham & Co.์ Ryan Koontz๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์ จ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Ryan Koontz: Needham & Company, LLC, Research Division I want to ask about the comms business. You highlighted multi-rail, which I assume is kind of -- would be driven by some of these scale across densifications. Jim, how are you thinking about kind of the timing and your content there for these multi-rail density upgrades on long-haul fiber? | **Ryan Koontz:** ํต์ ์ฌ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฉํฐ๋ ์ผ(multi-rail)์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๊ณ ๋ฐ๋ํ์ ์ํด ์ฃผ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. Jim, ์ฅ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด์ฌ์ ์์ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ฉํฐ๋ ์ผ ๋ฐ๋ ์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋์ ์๊ธฐ์ ์ฌ๊ธฐ์์ ๊ท์ฌ ์ฝํ ์ธ ๋น์ค์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Thanks for asking, Ryan. So first of all, we love this new multi-rail product. It provides a really great ability to upgrade for service providers, network operators to upgrade kind of within their existing footprint and get essentially a lot more traffic through an existing optical infrastructure. So really pleased with this product. We think it's very distinctive in the marketplace. And we would expect the ramp to start in kind of the second half of this year. We're seeing really good design wins and orders on this product and revenue contribution would start in the second half of this year. And then I would say just more generally, that kind of DCI portion of our business and even just the traditional telecom, we've seen really good growth there. Last quarter, we saw a 9% sequential growth, but it was 44% year-over-year growth. We expect that segment of communications to be sequentially up in the March quarter and the June quarter just based on the strong demand that we're seeing. And here again, is another place where we've seen growing backlog. And we sell at multiple different kind of levels within that part of the market. We sell at the system level, as we were just talking about. We also sell at the module level with ZR/ZR+ Coherent transceivers. And then we'll sell components as well. So things like pump lasers and other products like that. And we're seeing strong demand across all those product categories. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Ryan. ์ฐ์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ์๋ก์ด ๋ฉํฐ๋ ์ผ ์ ํ์ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด ์ ํ์ ์๋น์ค ์ ๊ณต์ ์ฒด์ ๋คํธ์ํฌ ์ด์์ ์ฒด๋ค์ด ๊ธฐ์กด ์ค๋น ๋ด์์ ์ ๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋ํ ์ ์๋ ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ด ์ธํ๋ผ๋ฅผ ํตํด ๋ณธ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ง์ ํธ๋ํฝ์ ์ฒ๋ฆฌํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด ์ ํ์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋ ์ ํ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ด ์์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ ํ์ ๋ํ ์ค๊ณ ์์ฃผ์ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์ถ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ์์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ข ๋ ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ ์ฌ์ ์ DCI(๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ธํฐ์ปค๋ฅํธ) ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 9% ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ง๋ง, ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น๋ก๋ 44% ์ฑ์ฅ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ํต์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ํ์ฌ ํ์ธ๋๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก 3์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 6์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ญ์ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ์์ฅ ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ด์์ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ค์ํ ๋ ๋ฒจ๋ก ์ ํ์ ํ๋งคํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์์คํ ๋ ๋ฒจ์์ ํ๋งคํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์. ZR/ZR+ ์ฝํ์ด๋ฐํธ ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ๊ฐ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ ๋ฒจ์์๋ ํ๋งคํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ปดํฌ๋ํธ๋ ํ๋งคํฉ๋๋ค. ํํ ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ๊ธฐํ ์ ํ๋ค ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ ์ ํ ์นดํ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์๋ฅผ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Ryan Koontz: Needham & Company, LLC, Research Division Great. Just a follow-up if I could, maybe touching on the 3D sensing market, Jim, and transition to multi-junction. How are you thinking about that transition relative to that part of the business? | **Ryan Koontz:** ๋ค, 3D ์ผ์ฑ ์์ฅ๊ณผ ๋ค์ค ์ ํฉ(multi-junction) ๊ธฐ์ ๋ก์ ์ ํ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์ฌ์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ํด๋น ์ ํ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด์ ๋ฐ์, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ์์ฅ์ด ๊ณ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ค ์ ํฉ ๊ธฐ์ ์ 3D ์ผ์ฑ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์์ ์ฑ๋ฅ๊ณผ ํจ์จ์ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์๋นํ ์ด์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ธด๋ฐํ ํ๋ ฅํ๋ฉด์ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํ์ ํ์ด๋ฐ๊ณผ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฅ์ด ์ฑ์ํด์ง๋ฉด์ ๋ ์ ๊ตํ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ๋ํ ์์๊ฐ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฌํ ์์๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑ์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ์ข์ ์์น์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. The 3D sensing, I would just reiterate what we said before that we won a significant new agreement with Apple that they announced as part of their American manufacturing program this past summer. And that revenue from that new partnership with Apple starts to kick in, in the second half of this calendar year. It's a great multiyear partnership. We're really happy with that. It's another example of a major customer leveraging our U.S. manufacturing footprint in Sherman, Texas. In the case of that business, that's 6-inch gallium arsenide that's been running in Sherman, Texas for quite a while. And so that 6-inch gallium arsenide VCSEL technology. And yes, big new partnership. We're really happy about that, and revenue should kick in here in the second half of this calendar year. Operator, I think we have time for maybe one more question, operator. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, 3D ์ผ์ฑ ๊ด๋ จํด์๋ ์ด์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ํ๊ณผ ์ค์ํ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ์ ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ๊ณ , ์ ํ์ด ์ง๋ ์ฌ๋ฆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ ์กฐ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ์ผํ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐํํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ์๋ก์ด ์ ํ ํํธ๋์ญ์์ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ๋ค๋
๊ฐ์ ํํธ๋์ญ์ด๊ณ , ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ฃผ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ํ ์ฌ์ค ์ ๋จผ์ ์๋ ์ ํฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ ์กฐ ๊ฑฐ์ ์ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๋ ํ๋์ ์ฌ๋ก์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ์ฌ์ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ํ ์ฌ์ค ์ ๋จผ์์ ๊ฝค ์ค๋ซ๋์ ๊ฐ๋๋์ด ์จ 6์ธ์น ๊ฐ๋ฅจ๋น์(gallium arsenide) ์์ฐ๋ผ์ธ์ ์ฌ์ฉํฉ๋๋ค. 6์ธ์น ๊ฐ๋ฅจ๋น์ VCSEL ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค, ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ ๊ท ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์ถ์ ์ฌํด ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์คํผ๋ ์ดํฐ, ์๋ง ํ ๊ฐ์ง ์ง๋ฌธ ์ ๋ ๋ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Vivek Arya with Bank of America Securities. | **Operator:** ๋ฑ ํฌ ์ค๋ธ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นด ์ฆ๊ถ์ ๋น๋ฒก ์๋ฆฌ์ผ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Michael Mani: BofA Securities, Research Division This is Michael Mani on for Vivek Arya. To start, I just want to understand how much gross margin leverage is your 6-inch indium phosphide ramp driving for you right now? And as we look out over the next couple of quarters, like what is the expected gross margin improvement as you are able to double supply year-over-year? And just bigger picture, as we think about the 42% longer-term target for gross margins, where you stand today? Like what are the biggest contributors to getting there? | **Michael Mani:** ๋จผ์ ํ์ฌ 6์ธ์น ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide) ๋จํ๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ง์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๋ ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ๊ณ ์๋์ง ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ค๋ดค์ ๋, ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๊ณต๊ธ๋์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋๋ฆด ์ ์๊ฒ ๋๋ฉด์ ์์๋๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ ํญ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ํฐ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ์ธ 42% ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ์๊ฐํ ๋, ํ์ฌ ์ด๋ ์์น์ ์๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋๋ฌํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๊ธฐ์ฌ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๋ฌด์์ธ๊ฐ์? |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. Maybe I'll start with the first part of the question on indium phosphide and Sherri can answer the second part sort of on broader gross margin drivers. But I would say this quarter, we're starting to see the benefits of the 6-inch production this quarter because remember, we started 6-inch production in the September quarter. And it usually takes roughly 6 months from the start of wafer production to when the products get put into a transceiver and actually ship to customers. So we'll see a little bit of benefit this quarter, but that benefit will start to build over the coming quarters. And if you fast forward to instance for the end of this year, where half of our internal capacity is running on 6-inch, you can kind of think about it as that half of our internal 6-inch capacity is roughly half the cost of the other half, right? Because 6-inch is -- where the cost is roughly -- or the product is -- the product cost is roughly half of 3-inch. So that's kind of a rough way to think about the cost benefit. And Sherri, do you want to talk about some more general gross margin drivers? | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ์ ๊ฐ ๋จผ์ ์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(indium phosphide)์ ๋ํ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ถํฐ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ , Sherri๊ฐ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๋์ธ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ถํฐ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ์ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋๊ธฐ ์์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 9์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ์ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ธฐ์ตํ์ค ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ์จ์ดํผ ์์ฐ ์์๋ถํฐ ์ ํ์ด ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ํ์ฌ๋์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ์ถํ๋๊ธฐ๊น์ง ๋ณดํต ์ฝ 6๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ถ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ํฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ค์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ทธ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ ์ฐจ ํ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ๋ง์ ์๋ก ๋ค์ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ด๋ถ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ด 6์ธ์น๋ก ์ด์๋ ์์ ์ธ๋ฐ์, ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ถ 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๋ฐ์ด ๋๋จธ์ง ์ ๋ฐ ๋๋น ๋๋ต ์ ๋ฐ ์ ๋์ ๋น์ฉ์ด ๋ ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . 6์ธ์น ์ ํ ์๊ฐ๊ฐ 3์ธ์น ๋๋น ๋๋ต ์ ๋ฐ ์์ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์ดํดํ๋ ๋๋ต์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ๋๋ค. Sherri, ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๋์ธ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ํด์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| CFO & Treasurer: Sure, sure. Michael, so when you look ahead to our gross margin, whether it's 39.5%, which is the midpoint of our guide for Q3 and certainly to our long-term target model of over 42%, the biggest contributors there are going to be certainly cost reductions. And that is a large bucket, which includes product and input costs, some of which I talked about earlier, and we certainly saw benefits during the quarter from product input cost reductions in our Datacenter & Communications business. But that also includes yield improvements that we continue to drive and that we -- every quarter, we're seeing benefits from yield improvements, and I'm really excited to continue to see that, there's always going to be opportunity for that. And so we're going to keep driving that as well as the lower product input costs. And the other part is going to be pricing optimization as we continue to get the value for our products. And so we've continued to see sequential improvements in the magnitude of pricing optimization. So that's really good as well. Now the timing of these programs, it's going to differ. Some is going to be near term, some are going to be longer term, just depending on the various initiatives. So the magnitude of the benefit in any particular quarter will likely fluctuate just because of the nature of the projects. But the other benefit certainly will also be volume as we ship higher volume, that will benefit us as well. And then mix, there can always be headwinds from mix on a quarterly basis. So that's kind of the puts and takes within the gross margin line. | **CFO & Treasurer:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. Michael, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ์ธ 39.5%๋ , ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ธ 42% ์ด์์ด๋ , ํฅํ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๊ธฐ์ฌ ์์ธ์ ๋จ์ฐ ์๊ฐ ์ ๊ฐ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์
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์๊ฐ๊ฐ ํฌํจ๋๋ฉฐ ์์ ์ผ๋ถ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ด์ฉ๋ค์ด ์ฌ๊ธฐ ํด๋น๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ๋ฐ ํต์ ์ฌ์
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์๊ฐ ์ ๊ฐ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํ์คํ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์จ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ํฌํจ๋๋๋ฐ, ๋งค ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ์์จ ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ธํ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ๊ณ์ ๋ํ๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํด ์ ๋ง ๊ธฐ๋๊ฐ ํฝ๋๋ค. ์์จ ๊ฐ์ ์ ํญ์ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋
ธ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ์ ํ ํฌ์
์๊ฐ ์ ๊ฐ๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ถ์งํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ ํ์ ๊ฐ์น์ ํฉ๋นํ ๋๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ๋ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์ต์ ํ์ ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ง๋ค ์ ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ณ ์์ด์ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ๋ค์ ์๊ธฐ๋ ๊ฐ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ์ ํน์ฑ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๋ฌ๋ผ์ง ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๋จ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก, ์ผ๋ถ๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ํน์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ํจ๊ณผ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ์ฑ๊ฒฉ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๋ณ๋์ด ์์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ์ธ์ ํ์คํ ๊ธ์ ์ ์์ธ์ ๋ฌผ๋์ ๋๋ค. ์ถํ๋์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋งํผ ์ค์ ์ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํ ๋ฏน์ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ์ญํ์ด ๋ ์๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ํญ๋ชฉ ๋ด์์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ ์์ธ๋ค์ ๋๋ต ์ด๋ฐ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Michael Mani: BofA Securities, Research Division Great. Very helpful. And just my quick follow-up. As we are -- as the 1.6T ramp gets underway, understood that it's mainly EML and CW lasers leading the way right now. But between the 2, do you see a significant shift between silicon photonics and EML in terms of what that mix looks like for 1.6T, especially -- and as you look out over the next year with CPO seemingly getting bigger as an opportunity, does that make you rethink how much CW laser capacity you would need understanding there's plenty of flexibility to do both, but -- just curious on that shift. | **Michael Mani:** ๋ค, ๋งค์ฐ ๋์์ด ๋์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ๋จํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 1.6T ๋จํ์ ์ด ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ํ์ฌ๋ ์ฃผ๋ก EML๊ณผ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ๋ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ด ๋ ์ฌ์ด์์ 1.6T ์ ํ ๋ฏน์ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ํฌํ ๋์ค์ EML ๊ฐ์ ํฐ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์๊น์? ํนํ ํฅํ 1๋ ์ ๋ด๋ค๋ดค์ ๋ CPO๊ฐ ๋ ํฐ ๊ธฐํ๋ก ๋ถ์ํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด CW ๋ ์ด์ ์บํ์ํฐ๋ฅผ ์ผ๋ง๋ ํ๋ณดํด์ผ ํ ์ง์ ๋ํ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ฐ๊พธ๊ฒ ๋ง๋๋์? ๋ฌผ๋ก ๋ ๋ค ํ ์ ์๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํ์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ์ ๋ํด ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director Yes. On the first part on EML versus silicon photonics, since we have both products and we're ramping both products, it's really up to the customer on what mix they want, and it just kind of depends on the application. And so we just build whichever version is needed for the customer application. And there's not a big financial difference for us on either one of those. And we believe we're just -- we're very well positioned competitively on both an EML-based 1.6T transceiver and silicon photonics. And then the second part of the question is we're certainly ramping the indium phosphide capacity for the transceiver demand that we're seeing, but we're also on top of that, ramping capacity to support the high-power CW laser demand that we've got ahead of us as well. | **James Anderson:** ๋ค, ๋จผ์ EML๊ณผ ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ํฌํ ๋์ค ๊ด๋ จ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ ์ ํ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์์ชฝ ๋ค ์์ฐ๋์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์ด๋ค ์กฐํฉ์ ์ํ๋์ง์ ๋ฌ๋ ค์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ๊ฒฐ์ ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ์ ํ์ํ ๋ฒ์ ์ ์ ์ํ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ ์ ์ฅ์์๋ ๋ ์ ํ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ ํฌ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ EML ๊ธฐ๋ฐ 1.6T ํธ๋์๋ฒ์ ์ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ ํฌํ ๋์ค ์์ชฝ ๋ชจ๋์์ ๊ฒฝ์๋ ฅ ์๋ ํฌ์ง์ ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ํ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๋ ํ์ฌ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ํธ๋์๋ฒ ์์๋ฅผ ์ํด ์ธ๋ ํฌ์คํ์ด๋(indium phosphide) ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ, ์์ผ๋ก ๋ค๊ฐ์ฌ ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ์์๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ๋ ๋์์ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Jim Anderson for closing comments. | **Operator:** ์ง์์๋ต ์๊ฐ์ด ์ข ๋ฃ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ง์์ ์ํด Jim Anderson์๊ฒ ๋ค์ ๋ง์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Anderson: CEO, President & Employee Director All right. Thanks, everyone, for joining today's call, and we're certainly on track for another outstanding year of revenue and profit growth for our fiscal '26 and very well positioned for an even stronger fiscal '27 given the exceptional demand we're seeing and our rapidly expanding production capacity. Once again, I want to thank all of my Coherent teammates for all their hard work and dedication. Operator, that concludes today's call. | **James Anderson:** ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๊ป ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 26ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์๋ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์ด์ต ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ฉด์์ ๋ ํ ๋ฒ ํ์ํ ํ ํด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ผ ์ ์๋ ๊ถค๋์ ์ฌ๋ผ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฌ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ธ์ ์ธ ์์์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ํ๋๋๊ณ ์๋ ์์ฐ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ํ ๋, 27ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ผ ์ ์๋ ์ข์ ์์น์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ํ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ฌํ ์ผํด ์ค ๋ชจ๋ Coherent ํ์๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ ๋ง์์ ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ด๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์น๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation. | **Operator:** ์ด์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์ข ๋ฃํ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
# Coherent Corp. ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ฃผ์ ์์ฝ
## ํต์ฌ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค
- **๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ผํฐ ์ฌ์
๊ฐ์ธ**: ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 14% ์ฑ์ฅ, ์์ฃผ์๊ณ ๋น์จ(book-to-bill) 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- **์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ๊ฐ์ **: 39% ๋ฌ์ฑ, ์ ๋
๋๋น 470bp ๊ฐ์ . ์ค๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ 42% ์ด์์ ํฅํด ์งํ ์ค
- **์ธ๋ ์ธํ๋ฌผ(InP) 6์ธ์น ์์ฐ๋ฅ๋ ฅ**: ์ฐ๋ง๊น์ง 2๋ฐฐ ํ๋ ๋ชฉํ ์ค ์ด๋ฏธ 80% ๋ฌ์ฑ. 3์ธ์น ๋๋น 4๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ์นฉ ์์ฐ, ๋น์ฉ์ ์ ๋ฐ ์ดํ๋ก ๋ง์ง ๊ฐ์ ํต์ฌ ๋๋ ฅ
## ์์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต์ ํฌ์ง์
๋
- **์ฅ๊ธฐ ์์ ๊ฐ์์ฑ ํ๋ณด**: ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์ด 2027๋
๊น์ง ํ๋๋๋ฉฐ, 2028๋
๊น์ง์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์์ธก ๋ฐ ๋ค์์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณต๊ธ๊ณ์ฝ(LTA) ์ฒด๊ฒฐ ์งํ ์ค
- **800G ๋ฐ 1.6T ์ ํ ์ฑ์ฅ**: ๋ ์ ํ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ. 1.6T๋ ๋ ๋์ ASP์ ๋ง์ง์ผ๋ก ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๋๋ ฅ. ํ๋ฐ๊ธฐ VCSEL ๊ธฐ๋ฐ 1.6T ๋จํ ์์
- **CPO(Co-Packaged Optics) ๋ํ ์์ฃผ**: ๊ณ ์ถ๋ ฅ CW ๋ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ํ๋ณด. Scale-up ๋คํธ์ํฌ๋ก์ ํ๋ ๊ธฐ๋, ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ๋ ๊ธฐ์กด ์ถ์ ์น ๋