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| Commvault Systems, Inc. (CVLT) Q3 2026 Earnings Call January 27, 2026 8:30 AM EST Company Participants Michael Melnyk - Head of Investor Relations Sanjay Mirchandani - President, CEO & Director Danielle Abrahamsen Conference Call Participants Aaron Rakers - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Jason Ader - William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division James Fish - Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Eric Heath - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division Howard Ma - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division Paramveer Singh - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division Rudy Kessinger - D.A. | # ์ปค๋จผ๋ณผํธ ์์คํ
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3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ 2026๋ 1์ 27์ผ ์ค์ 8์ 30๋ถ (๋๋ถ ํ์ค์) ## ํ์ฌ ์ฐธ์์ ๋ง์ดํด ๋ฉ๋ - ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์ด์ฌ ์ฐ์ ์ด ๋ฏธ๋ฅด์ฐฌ๋ค๋ - ์ฌ์ฅ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ ๋ค๋์ ์๋ธ๋ผํจ์ผ ## ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ์ฐธ์ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ ์ ๋ฐ ๋ ์ด์ปค์ค - ์ฐ์คํ๊ณ ์ฆ๊ถ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ ์ด์จ ์์ด๋ - ์๋ฆฌ์ ๋ธ๋ ์ด ์ค ์ปดํผ๋, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์ ์์ค ํผ์ - ํ์ดํผ ์๋ค๋ฌ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ์๋ฆญ ํ์ค - ํค๋ฑ ํฌ ์บํผํ ๋ง์ผ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํ์๋ ๋ง - ๊ตฌ๊ฒํ์ ์ฆ๊ถ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ํ๋๋น์ด ์ฑ - ์คํํ์ด๋จธ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ๋ฃจ๋ ์ผ์ฑ์ด - D.A. |
| Davidson & Co., Research Division Michael Romanelli - Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Thomas Blakey - Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division Shrenik Kothari - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division Junaid Siddiqui - Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division Presentation Operator Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Commvault Q3 Fiscal 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Melnyk, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin. | # Commvault 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ ## ์ฐธ์์ **์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ:** - Davidson & Co., ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ - Michael Romanelli - Mizuho Securities USA LLC, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ - Thomas Blakey - Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ - Shrenik Kothari - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ - Junaid Siddiqui - Truist Securities, Inc., ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ ## ๋ฐํ **๊ตํ์:** ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น, ๊ธฐ๋ค๋ ค ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ๋ฒจ๋ผ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์งํ์ ๋งก๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๊ธ๋ถํฐ Commvault 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. [๊ตํ์ ์๋ด์ฌํญ] ์ด์ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ๋ถ์ฌ์ฅ Mike Melnyk์๊ฒ ์งํ์ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ํ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Michael Melnyk Head of Investor Relations Good morning, and welcome to our earnings conference call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that statements made on today's call will include forward-looking statements about Commvault's future expectations, plans and prospects. All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's earnings release and Commvault's most recent periodic reports filed with the SEC for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to be materially different from those contemplated in these forward-looking statements. | ๋ง์ดํด ๋ฉ๋ ํฌ์์ ๊ด๊ณ ๋ด๋น ์ด์ฌ ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น, ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ํ๊ธฐ์ ์์, ์ค๋ ์ฝ์์ ๋ฐํ๋๋ ๋ด์ฉ์๋ Commvault์ ํฅํ ๊ธฐ๋์ฌํญ, ๊ณํ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ง์ ๊ดํ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ (forward-looking statements)์ด ํฌํจ๋ ๊ฒ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ ์ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ, ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ ๋ฐ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ์ ๋ก ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ ์ค์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ฏธ๋์์ธก์ง์ ์์ ๊ณ ๋ ค๋ ๋ด์ฉ๊ณผ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค๋ฅผ ์ ์๋ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ์ ๋ถํ์ค์ฑ์ ๋ํ ๋ ผ์๋ ์ค๋ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ์๋ฃ์ ์ฃผ์์ฌํญ ๋ฐ SEC์ ์ ์ถ๋ Commvault์ ์ต๊ทผ ์ ๊ธฐ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ฅผ ์ฐธ์กฐํ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Commvault does not assume any obligation to update these statements. During this call, Commvault's financial results are presented on a non-GAAP basis. A reconciliation between the non-GAAP and GAAP measures can be found on our website. Thank you again for joining us. Now I'll turn it over to our CEO, Sanjay Mirchandani, for his opening remarks. Sanjay? Sanjay Mirchandani President, CEO & Director Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Q3 was another solid quarter for Commvault. We reinforced our position as an innovation leader and garnered accolades from partners and industry analysts. Some financial highlights in the quarter include subscription revenue grew 30% to $206 million. | Commvault๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ง์ ์ ์
๋ฐ์ดํธํ ์๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ง์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์์ Commvault์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ค์ ์ ๋น-GAAP ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋น-GAAP์ GAAP ์ธก์ ์น ๊ฐ์ ์กฐ์ ๋ด์ญ์ ๋น์ฌ ์น์ฌ์ดํธ์์ ํ์ธํ์ค ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์
์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ด์ CEO์ธ Sanjay Mirchandani์๊ฒ ๋ฐ์ธ๊ถ์ ๋๊ฒจ ๊ฐํ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฃ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Sanjay? Sanjay Mirchandani ๋ํ์ด์ฌ, CEO ๊ฒธ ์ด์ฌ ์ข์ ์์นจ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐธ์ฌํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ Commvault์๊ฒ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ ๋ฆฌ๋๋ก์์ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ฐํํ์ผ๋ฉฐ ํํธ๋์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ์ ๊ณ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ฐฌ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ํ์ด๋ผ์ดํธ๋ ๋ค์๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด 30% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ฌ 2์ต 600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| This was fueled by a record land and expand quarter with the addition of 700 new subscription customers. Subscription ARR increased 28% to $941 million. SaaS ARR increased 40% to $364 million and we achieved the rule of 40 with a healthy balance between growth and profitability. Our momentum in Q3 and year-to-date reflects the growing need for next-generation cyber resilience. In an AI-driven hybrid and multi-cloud world, resilience cannot be reactive, manual or fragmented. It needs to be continuous, always on and unified through a single control plane. Commvault uniquely delivers this innovation. I'm proud to share that in Q3, we were awarded our 1,600th lifetime patent. | ์ด๋ 700๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ตฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋ฐ ํ์ฅ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๋ฐ ํ์ ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ๋ ARR์ 28% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ 9์ต 4,100๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. SaaS ARR์ 40% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ 3์ต 6,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฑ์ฅ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑด์ ํ ๊ท ํ์ ํตํด Rule of 40์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ์ฐจ์ธ๋ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ๋ํ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. AI ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ ๋ฉํฐํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ํ๊ฒฝ์์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ฌํ ๋์์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ์๋์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ถ์ฐ๋์ด์๋ ์ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋จ์ผ ์ ์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํด ์ง์์ ์ด๊ณ ์์ ๊ฐ๋๋๋ฉฐ ํตํฉ๋์ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. Commvault๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ํ์ ์ ๋ ๋ณด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋์ 1,600๋ฒ์งธ ํนํ๋ฅผ ํ๋ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. |
| I want to thank our engineering and IT teams for their continued commitment to excellence and innovation focused on customers. At our SHIFT event in November, we took innovation to the next level with the Commvault Cloud Unity platform release. Unity brings together data security, identity resilience and cyber recovery on one platform, all enabled by the Metallic AI fabric. With Unity, customers are now equipped to drive their ResOps or Resilience Operations. ResOps is a discipline that unifies operations, security and infrastructure across the business. By bringing these silos together, organizations can plan, prepare and recover from a disruption or cyberattack. | ์ฐ์์ฑ๊ณผ ํ์ ์ ๋ํ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ณ ๊ฐ์๊ฒ ์ง์คํด ์จ ์์ง๋์ด๋ง ๋ฐ IT ํ์ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ 11์ SHIFT ํ์ฌ์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ Commvault Cloud Unity ํ๋ซํผ ์ถ์๋ฅผ ํตํด ํ์ ์ ํ ๋จ๊ณ ๋ ๋ฐ์ ์์ผฐ์ต๋๋ค. Unity๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณด์, ์ ์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ, ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํฉํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋ Metallic AI ํจ๋ธ๋ฆญ์ผ๋ก ๊ตฌํ๋ฉ๋๋ค. Unity๋ฅผ ํตํด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ด์ ResOps, ์ฆ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์ด์(Resilience Operations)์ ์ถ์งํ ์ ์๋ ์ญ๋์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ResOps๋ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด์, ๋ณด์, ์ธํ๋ผ๋ฅผ ํตํฉํ๋ ์ฒด๊ณ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ฌ์ผ๋ก๋ค์ ํตํฉํจ์ผ๋ก์จ, ์กฐ์ง๋ค์ ์ฅ์ ๋ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๊ณํํ๊ณ , ์ค๋นํ๊ณ , ๋ณต๊ตฌํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Customer partner and industry feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. Dave Novak, Deloitte Cyber Resilience Lead said, "The Commvault Cloud Unity platform brings these elements together in a way we don't see elsewhere in the market. We're pleased to team with Commvault to help joint customers respond faster, reduce risk, and confidently adopt AI and cloud at scale while advancing resiliency." IDC further validated this approach stating, "We believe ResOps has an opportunity to resonate with customers as it is concise with powerful implications and operational value." ResOps is a fundamentally different approach from what legacy vendors provide today. | ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํํธ๋์ ์
๊ณ์ ํผ๋๋ฐฑ์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ธ์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. Deloitte์ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ๋ฆฌ๋์ธ Dave Novak์ "Commvault Cloud Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ ์์ฅ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์์๋ ๋ณผ ์ ์๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ์์๋ค์ ํตํฉํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ Commvault์ ํ๋ ฅํ์ฌ ๊ณต๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋์ํ๊ณ , ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๋ฅผ ์ค์ด๋ฉฐ, AI์ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋๋ฅผ ๋๊ท๋ชจ๋ก ์์ ์๊ฒ ๋์
ํ๋ ๋์์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ํฅ์์ํฌ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋๊ฒ ๋์ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋๋ค"๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ์ต๋๋ค. IDC๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๊ฒ์ฆํ๋ฉฐ "ResOps๋ ๊ฐ๊ฒฐํ๋ฉด์๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ํจ์์ ์ด์ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ง๋๊ณ ์์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ฐ์ ์ป์ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค"๋ผ๊ณ ์ธ๊ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ResOps๋ ์ค๋๋ ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ฒค๋๋ค์ด ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ๋ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋๋ค. |
| Resilience in the age of AI requires us to: one, continuously secure data at the source and monitor for anomalies; two, control the identities, human and nonhuman that access and use the data autonomously; and three, predictably recover data applications and operations at massive scale with the lowest total cost of ownership. Let's take a moment to discuss each, starting with data security. As enterprises embrace AI and move to the cloud, they must also grapple with evolving and more sophisticated attacks. | AI ์๋์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ์ํด์๋ ๋ค์์ด ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค: ์ฒซ์งธ, ์์ค์์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณดํธํ๊ณ ์ด์ ์งํ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋งํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋์งธ, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ ์์จ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ์ธ๊ฐ ๋ฐ ๋น์ธ๊ฐ ID๋ฅผ ํต์ ํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์งธ, ์ต์ ์ด์์ ๋น์ฉ(TCO)์ผ๋ก ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด์ ๊ณผ ์ด์์ ์์ธก ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๊ฒ ๋ณต๊ตฌํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ ํญ๋ชฉ์ ๋ํด ์ ์ ๋ ผ์ํด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณด์๋ถํฐ ์์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด AI๋ฅผ ๋์ ํ๊ณ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋๋ก ์ ํํจ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ, ์งํํ๊ณ ๋์ฑ ์ ๊ตํด์ง๋ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์๋ ๋์ํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| By combining Commvault's Metallic AI fabric with our multipoint Threat Scan, Synthetic Recovery and Cleanroom Recovery offerings, customers can secure data as a source, identify, analyze and quarantine suspicious files, monitor for anomalies and conduct recoveries with precision so they're ready for an inevitable attack. Case in point. By embracing our Threat Scan and risk analysis capabilities, UNC Health, a long-standing customer, is now able to scale its security with its data growth, saving time, reducing risk, supporting compliance and advancing cyber resilience. Next, let's talk about Identity Resilience. | Commvault์ Metallic AI ํจ๋ธ๋ฆญ์ ๋น์ฌ์ ๋ฉํฐํฌ์ธํธ ์ํ ์ค์บ(Threat Scan), ํฉ์ฑ ๋ณต๊ตฌ(Synthetic Recovery) ๋ฐ ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ ๋ณต๊ตฌ(Cleanroom Recovery) ์๋ฃจ์ ๊ณผ ๊ฒฐํฉํจ์ผ๋ก์จ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ์์ค๋ก์ ๋ณดํธํ๊ณ , ์์ฌ์ค๋ฌ์ด ํ์ผ์ ์๋ณยท๋ถ์ยท๊ฒฉ๋ฆฌํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ ์งํ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋งํ๊ณ , ์ ๋ฐํ ๋ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ํํ ์ ์์ด ๋ถ๊ฐํผํ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ๋๋นํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ์ฌ๋ก๋ฅผ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ค๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ์ธ UNC Health๋ ๋น์ฌ์ ์ํ ์ค์บ ๋ฐ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ ๋ถ์ ์ญ๋์ ๋์ ํจ์ผ๋ก์จ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ๋ณด์์ ํ์ฅํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ์๊ฐ์ ์ ์ฝํ๊ณ , ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์์ํค๋ฉฐ, ์ปดํ๋ผ์ด์ธ์ค๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๊ณ , ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์์ผ๋ก ID ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(Identity Resilience)์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| According to CrowdStrike, approximately 80% of breaches involve compromised identities. Attackers don't start by encrypting data. They compromise valid credentials and escalate privileges, putting identity at the center of side risk. Commvault Cloud's growing Identity Resilience capabilities enable enterprises to ease and track and mitigate unauthorized or accidental changes to identity systems like Active Directory, Entra ID and Okta. | CrowdStrike์ ๋ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด, ์ฝ 80%์ ์นจํด ์ฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ์ ์ ๋ณด ์ ์ถ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์๋ค์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ํธํ๋ถํฐ ์์ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ ํจํ ์๊ฒฉ ์ฆ๋ช ์ ํ์ทจํ๊ณ ๊ถํ์ ์์น์ํค๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ก ์ธํด ์ ์ ์ ๋ณด๊ฐ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ์ํ์ ์ค์ฌ์ ๋์ด๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. Commvault Cloud์ ๊ฐํ๋๊ณ ์๋ Identity Resilience ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด Active Directory, Entra ID, Okta์ ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ๊ด๋ฆฌ ์์คํ ์ ๋ํ ๋ฌด๋จ ๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฐ์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ ์ฌํญ์ ์ํํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ํ๋ฉฐ ๋์ํ ์ ์๋๋ก ์ง์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| As Eric Bayer of Jazwares, a Berkshire Hathaway company explained "Commvault innovation with Identity Resilience will allow us to detect and roll back malicious identity changes as they happen so that we can maintain reliable authentication and access control while strengthening our overall cyber resilience." In Q3, hundreds of customers embrace our Identity Resilience capabilities. And ARR from just our Active Directory offering has more than doubled year-over-year. In just 2 years, it has become one of our largest SaaS offerings. And finally, we cannot discuss resilience operations without addressing recovery, particularly for cloud native and cloud bound enterprises. | Berkshire Hathaway ๊ณ์ด์ฌ์ธ Jazwares์ Eric Bayer๋ "Commvault์ Identity Resilience ํ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ํตํด ์
์์ ์ธ ์ ์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ์ ์ค์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ํ์งํ๊ณ ๋กค๋ฐฑํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์ด, ์ ๋ขฐํ ์ ์๋ ์ธ์ฆ ๋ฐ ์ ๊ทผ ์ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ๊ฐํํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค"๋ผ๊ณ ์ค๋ช
ํ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์๋ฐฑ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ฌ๊ฐ ๋น์ฌ์ Identity Resilience ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๋์ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Active Directory ์๋ฃจ์ ๋ง์ผ๋ก๋ ARR์ด ์ ๋ ๋๋น ๋ ๋ฐฐ ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ณผ 2๋ ๋ง์ ๋น์ฌ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ SaaS ์๋น์ค ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก, ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์ด์(resilience operations)์ ๋ ผ์ํ ๋ ๋ณต๊ตฌ(recovery), ํนํ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๋ค์ดํฐ๋ธ ๋ฐ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ํ ๋ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋นผ๋์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| In Q3, we saw accelerated momentum with our cloud native offerings, including Clumio. For example, Klarity, a pioneer in AI-driven predictive health chose Clumio to safeguard sensitive AI data that fuels next-generation risk prediction models. Our ongoing innovation with Clumio also speaks to our long-standing collaboration with Amazon Web Services. In Q3, we achieved AWS resilience competency in the recovery category and we were named the 2025 AWS Global Storage Partner of the Year. Additionally, GigaOm named Commvault a leader in its cloud data protection radar. | 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ Clumio๋ฅผ ํฌํจํ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๋ค์ดํฐ๋ธ ์๋ฃจ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ํ์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, AI ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์์ธก ๊ฑด๊ฐ ๋ถ์ผ์ ์ ๊ตฌ์์ธ Klarity๋ ์ฐจ์ธ๋ ์ํ ์์ธก ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ๊ตฌ๋ํ๋ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ AI ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณดํธํ๊ธฐ ์ํด Clumio๋ฅผ ์ ํํ์ต๋๋ค. Clumio์์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ํ์ ์ Amazon Web Services์์ ์ค๋ ํ๋ ฅ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ณต๊ตฌ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ AWS ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์ญ๋ ์ธ์ฆ์ ํ๋ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, 2025๋ AWS ๊ธ๋ก๋ฒ ์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ง ํํธ๋ ์ค๋ธ ๋ ์ด์ด๋ก ์ ์ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ GigaOm์ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณดํธ ๋ ์ด๋์์ Commvault๋ฅผ ๋ฆฌ๋๋ก ์ง๋ช ํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Commvault Cloud also supports recovery of massive AI workloads and pipelines like object storage, data lakes, analytics platforms and vector databases. In Q3, we announced a new partnership with Pinecone that will bring greater resilience to the vector databases within enterprise AI stacks. Delivered via Commvault Cloud, the solution will support Pinecone deployments across AWS, Azure and Google Cloud. It's targeted for general availability in Q2 of calendar 2026. We believe that AI is an emerging tailwind for us. It dramatically increases the volume of data that needs to be protected. | Commvault Cloud๋ ๋ํ ๊ฐ์ฒด ์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ง, ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ ์ดํฌ, ๋ถ์ ํ๋ซํผ, ๋ฒกํฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฒ ์ด์ค์ ๊ฐ์ ๋๊ท๋ชจ AI ์ํฌ๋ก๋ ๋ฐ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ๋ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํฉ๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ธฐ์ AI ์คํ ๋ด ๋ฒกํฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฒ ์ด์ค์ ๋ ํฐ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ Pinecone๊ณผ์ ์๋ก์ด ํํธ๋์ญ์ ๋ฐํํ์ต๋๋ค. Commvault Cloud๋ฅผ ํตํด ์ ๊ณต๋๋ ์ด ์๋ฃจ์ ์ AWS, Azure, Google Cloud ์ ๋ฐ์ Pinecone ๋ฐฐํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. 2026๋ 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ ์ถ์๋ฅผ ๋ชฉํ๋ก ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ AI๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ ์๋ก์ด ์ํ์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. AI๋ ๋ณดํธ๊ฐ ํ์ํ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ ์์ ๊ทน์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์ํต๋๋ค. |
| It introduces new threats that need to be addressed and requires a solution that brings resilience to the services, models and databases that power AI. Our Commvault Cloud Unity platform is ideally suited to help customers address these evolving AI requirements. I'd be remiss if I didn't discuss our focus on data and cloud sovereignty. Over the years, we've always met our customers' evolving needs, including their data sovereignty requirements. Now we're taking it a step further by supporting regional sovereign clouds. In December, we announced that Commvault is a launch partner for the AWS European Sovereign Cloud. | AI๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋ํ๋ ์๋น์ค, ๋ชจ๋ธ ๋ฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฒ ์ด์ค์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ด ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ Commvault Cloud Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์งํํ๋ AI ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ ํด๊ฒฐํ๋ ๋ฐ ์ด์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ํฉํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ฐ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ์ฃผ๊ถ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ง์ค์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํ์ง ์์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ ๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ฃผ๊ถ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ ํฌํจํ์ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์งํํ๋ ๋์ฆ๋ฅผ ํญ์ ์ถฉ์กฑ์์ผ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ง์ญ ์ฃผ๊ถ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋๋ฅผ ์ง์ํจ์ผ๋ก์จ ํ ๋จ๊ณ ๋ ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 12์์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ Commvault๊ฐ AWS ์ ๋ฝ ์ฃผ๊ถ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋(AWS European Sovereign Cloud)์ ๋ฐ์นญ ํํธ๋์์ ๋ฐํํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Together, our plans are to provide European organizations with a secure solution that is purpose-built for cloud, delivering cost-optimized resilience at scale for AWS customers. We are working closely with other partners in cloud sovereignty as well. This is an emerging space, and we'll have more to say about this soon. Let me close with this. This quarter, we continue to capitalize on strong market growth through innovation leadership and execution excellence, and we're seeing record customer engagement and adoption. We believe Commvault Cloud Unity is the breakthrough platform customers need in the AI era. | ํจ๊ป, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ณํ์ ์ ๋ฝ ์กฐ์ง๋ค์๊ฒ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋๋ฅผ ์ํด ํน๋ณํ ๊ตฌ์ถ๋ ์์ ํ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ์ฌ, AWS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ํ ๋น์ฉ ์ต์ ํ๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ์ฃผ๊ถ ๋ถ์ผ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํํธ๋๋ค๊ณผ๋ ๊ธด๋ฐํ ํ๋ ฅํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์๋กญ๊ฒ ๋ถ์ํ๋ ์์ญ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ณง ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ง์์ ๋๋ฆด ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ ๋ฆฌ๋์ญ๊ณผ ์คํ ์ฐ์์ฑ์ ํตํด ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ฅ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฉํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฐธ์ฌ์ ๋์ ์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ Commvault Cloud Unity๊ฐ AI ์๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํ์๋ก ํ๋ ํ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ํ๋ซํผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. |
| And we anticipate we will finish the year with solid results that reflect both our leadership in the market and the trust our customers place in Commvault. Thank you. Now I'll turn it over to our Chief Accounting Officer, Danielle Abrahamsen, to discuss the financial details. Danielle? Danielle Abrahamsen Thanks, Sanjay, and good morning, everyone. As Sanjay highlighted, our Q3 results reflect the growing demand for our Commvault Cloud platform as customers continue to rely on us to keep them resilient in the face of attacks while advancing their hybrid cloud and AI journey. I'll recap our Q3 results and operating metrics, followed by an update on Q4 and fiscal '26 guidance. | ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ฅ์์์ ๋ฆฌ๋์ญ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด Commvault์ ๋ณด๋ด์ฃผ์๋ ์ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌํด๋ฅผ ๋ง๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ธ๋ถ์ฌํญ์ ๋
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์์์ธ Danielle Abrahamsen์๊ฒ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. Danielle? Danielle Abrahamsen ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค, Sanjay. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น. Sanjay๊ฐ ๊ฐ์กฐํ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋์ AI ์ฌ์ ์ ์งํํ๋ ๋์์ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ง๋ฉดํ์ฌ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ ์งํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ขฐํจ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ Commvault Cloud ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ํ ์์ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๊ณผ ์ด์ ์งํ๋ฅผ ์์ฝํ ํ, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| As a reminder, all growth rates are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. For Q3, total revenue growth accelerated 19% to $314 million, driven by a 30% increase in subscription revenue, which reached $206 million. Subscription revenue was led by a robust 44% increase in SaaS revenue and one of our strongest customer acquisition quarters in years. Term software revenue grew a healthy 22% to $119 million. We saw strong growth across all geographies and customer sizes with notable strength from large enterprise accounts. Revenue from term software transactions over $100,000 rose 25%, driven by notable gains in both transaction volume and average deal size. | ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก, ๋ณ๋ ์ธ๊ธ์ด ์๋ ํ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ ๋ ๋๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ด ๋งค์ถ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋น 19% ๊ฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅํ์ฌ 3์ต 1,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ตฌ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด 30% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ 2์ต 600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋๋ฌํ ๋ฐ ํ์ ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ตฌ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ SaaS ๋งค์ถ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ 44% ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ์ต๊ทผ ๋ช ๋ ์ค ๊ฐ์ฅ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ์ฃผ๋๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋งค์ถ์ 22% ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ๊ฒ ์ฑ์ฅํ์ฌ 1์ต 1,900๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ชจ๋ ์ง์ญ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ณด์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ํนํ ๋ํ ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ ๊ณ์ ์์ ๋๋๋ฌ์ง ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ํ๋์ต๋๋ค. 10๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋์ ๋งค์ถ์ 25% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ฑฐ๋๋๊ณผ ํ๊ท ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ท๋ชจ ๋ชจ๋์์ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ ๋งํ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Additionally, the volume and dollar value of million-dollar software deals increased year-over-year, underscoring our standing as the preferred vendor for enterprise customers. We added approximately 700 new subscription customers and we ended the quarter with over 14,000 subscription customers. Q3 was our best quarter ever for net new term software customer additions and our second best ever SaaS customer acquisition quarter. Now I'll discuss ARR. Subscription ARR, which we believe is the best indicator of the company's health and growth increased 28% to $941 million. This was driven by 40% growth in SaaS ARR to $364 million. | ๋ํ, ๋ฐฑ๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฑด์์ ๊ธ์ก์ด ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ ํธํ๋ ๊ณต๊ธ์ ์ฒด๋ก์์ ์ ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ณ ํ ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ฝ 700๊ฐ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ตฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์ค ์ด ๊ตฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์๋ 14,000๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋์ด์ฐ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์์ฆ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด์ ์์ด ์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด์ ์์ด์๋ ์ญ๋ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ์ฐ์ํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ARR์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ ๊ฑด์ ์ฑ๊ณผ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ ๋ํ๋ด๋ ์งํ๋ผ๊ณ ํ๋จํ๋ ๊ตฌ๋ ARR์ 28% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ 9์ต 4,100๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ SaaS ARR์ด 40% ์ฑ์ฅํ์ฌ 3์ต 6,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ๋ฐ ํ์ ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Subscription ARR now represents 87% of total ARR compared to 83% 1 year ago. Total ARR increased by 22% to $1.085 billion. Existing customer expansion was healthy in Q3, with SaaS net dollar retention of 121%, consistent with best-in-class SaaS platforms. Our SaaS net dollar retention reflects a few things: one, a growing installed base, which is now over 9,000 customers; two, the impact of rapidly adding new SaaS customers which is forward-looking and not yet reflected in our net dollar retention; and three, a mix shift of some product capabilities with certain early adopter customers. | ๊ตฌ๋ ARR์ ์ด์ ์ ์ฒด ARR์ 87%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 1๋ ์ 83%์์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ARR์ 22% ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ฌ 10์ต 8,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ์ฅ์ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, SaaS ์๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ์ง์จ์ 121%๋ก ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ SaaS ํ๋ซํผ๋ค๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๋ ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ์ SaaS ์๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ์ง์จ์ ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ์ ๋ฐ์ํฉ๋๋ค: ์ฒซ์งธ, ํ์ฌ 9,000๊ฐ ์ด์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์ค์น ๊ธฐ๋ฐ, ๋์งธ, ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ถ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ํฅ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ ๋ฏธ๋ ์งํฅ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ์์ง ์๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ์ง์จ์ ๋ฐ์๋์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ์งธ, ์ผ๋ถ ์ผ๋ฆฌ์ด๋ตํฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ์ ํน์ ์ ํ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ์ ๋๋ค. |
| We saw solid momentum across our identity and resilience offering, which collectively represented approximately 30% of net new ARR. Now I'll discuss our profitability and free cash flow. Fiscal Q3 gross margins improved 100 basis points sequentially to 81.5%, which reflects a higher mix of software sales. In addition, we saw improved economies of scale and product efficiencies that we expect to continue in Q4. Operating expenses of $193 million represented 62% of total revenue. Operating expenses reflect higher commission and bonuses on strong year-to-date sales performance and the trailing run rate of initiatives to support our ongoing growth trajectory. | ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ID ๋ฐ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ๋ฐ์์ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ํ์ธํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๊ท ARR์ ์ฝ 30%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์์ต์ฑ๊ณผ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 100bp ๊ฐ์ ๋ 81.5%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋งค์ถ ๋น์ค ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ ํ ํจ์จ์ฑ ํฅ์์ ํ์ธํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ง์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์์ ๋น์ฉ์ 1์ต 9,300๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ ์ฒด ๋งค์ถ์ 62%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ๋น์ฉ์ ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ๋์ ์์๋ฃ ๋ฐ ๋ณด๋์ค์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ถค๋๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ์ ํํ ์คํ๋ฅ ์ ๋ฐๆ ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Non-GAAP EBIT was $61 million, reflecting in a margin of 19.6%. In fiscal Q3, we achieved the rule of 40 reflecting a healthy balance between revenue and profitability. Year-to-date, we're operating at a rule of 41, consistent with our responsible growth philosophy. In line with this approach at the end of Q3, we initiated a cost optimization program aimed to align our cost structure to the evolving needs of the business. Turning to key balance sheet and cash flow indicators. We repurchased $41 million of stock during the quarter, bringing the year-to-date amount to $187 million. We ended the quarter with a diluted share count of approximately 45 million shares. | ๋นGAAP EBIT๋ 6,100๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก 19.6%์ ๋ง์ง์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑด์ ํ ๊ท ํ์ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ Rule of 40์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ๋์ ์ผ๋ก๋ Rule of 41์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์ฑ ์ ์๋ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ฒ ํ๊ณผ ์ผ์นํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ฐ๋ผ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง์ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค์ ๋ณํํ๋ ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ๋น์ฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๋น์ฉ ์ต์ ํ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ์์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฃผ์ ๋์ฐจ๋์กฐํ ๋ฐ ํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ์งํ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ 4,100๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์์ฌ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋งค์ ํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ๋์ ๊ธ์ก์ 1์ต 8,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง ํฌ์์ฃผ์์๋ ์ฝ 4,500๋ง ์ฃผ๋ก ๋ง๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Year-to-date, we have generated $105 million of free cash flow. Q3 free cash flow of $2 million was impacted by the timing of collections from sales made later in the quarter, and an additional payroll cycle for both the U.S. and Canada. We expect this to normalize in Q4. Now I'll discuss our outlook for Q4 and our updated outlook for fiscal year '26. For fiscal Q4 '26, we expect subscription revenue, which includes both the software portion of term-based licenses and SaaS to be in the range of $203 million to $207 million. This represents 18% growth at the midpoint. We expect total revenue to be in the range of $305 million to $308 million with growth of 11% at the midpoint. | ์ฐ์ด ๋๋น ํ์ฌ๊น์ง 1์ต 500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ์ ์ฐฝ์ถํ์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ 200๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ๋ฐ์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๋งค์ถ์ ํ์ ์๊ธฐ์ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฐ ์บ๋๋ค์ ์ถ๊ฐ ๊ธ์ฌ ์ง๊ธ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ก ์ธํด ์ํฅ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ ๋ง๊ณผ 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 2026 ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ SaaS๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ ํฌํจํ๋ ๊ตฌ๋ ๋งค์ถ์ด 2์ต 300๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 2์ต 700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ์๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค 18% ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ํ๋ ๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ๋งค์ถ์ 3์ต 500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 3์ต 800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ์๋ก ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค 11% ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| As a reminder, Q4 fiscal year '25 benefited from several multiyear strategic land transactions. At these revenue levels, we expect Q4 consolidated gross margins to be approximately 81%. We expect Q4 non-GAAP EBIT margin of approximately 19%. Now I'll discuss our updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. As a reminder, ARR guidance is in constant currency using FX rates as of March 31, 2025. For historical comparison, please refer to our Q3 earnings presentation. We expect constant currency fiscal '26 total ARR growth to be approximately 18% driven by an estimated 24% growth in subscription ARR. This guidance reflects the flow-through of our Q3 results and is within our prior range. | ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก 25ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ค๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ต์ ํ ์ง ๊ฑฐ๋๋ก ์ธํ ํํ์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ๋งค์ถ ์์ค์์ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ ์ฝ 81%๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋น-GAAP EBIT ๋ง์ง์ ์ฝ 19%๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋งํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธ๋ 2026ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ARR ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ 2025๋ 3์ 31์ผ ๊ธฐ์ค ํ์จ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ๋น๊ต๋ฅผ ์ํด์๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ฐธ๊ณ ํ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. 26ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ด ARR ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ์ฝ 18%๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ตฌ๋ ARR์ ์ฝ 24% ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์ํด ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฐ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ธฐ์กด ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| From a full year fiscal '26 revenue perspective, we are raising subscription revenue to be in the range of $764 million to $768 million, growing 30% at the midpoint. We are also increasing total revenue to a range of $1.177 billion to $1.18 billion, representing growth of 18% at the midpoint. Moving to our full year fiscal '26 margin, EBIT and free cash flow outlook. We now expect gross margins to be 81% to 81.5%. This increased range reflects continued growth in our SaaS platform. And we are increasing our non-GAAP EBIT margin guidance to a range of 19% to 20%. We now expect our full year free cash flow outlook to range from $215 million to $220 million. | ์ ์ฒด ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 2026๋
๋งค์ถ ์ ๋ง ๊ด์ ์์, ๋น์ฌ๋ ๊ตฌ๋
๋งค์ถ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ 7์ต 6,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 7์ต 6,800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ์๋ก ์ํฅ ์กฐ์ ํ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค 30% ์ฑ์ฅ์ ์๋ฏธํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ด ๋งค์ถ์ 11์ต 7,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 11์ต 8,000๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ์๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์์ผ, ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค 18% ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ํ๋
๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ 2026๋ ๋ง์ง, EBIT ๋ฐ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ์ ๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ด์ ๋งค์ถ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด 81%์์ 81.5%๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฌํ ์ํฅ ์กฐ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์๋ SaaS ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ง์์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๋ฐ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ฌ๋ ๋น-GAAP EBIT ๋ง์ง ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ 19%์์ 20% ๋ฒ์๋ก ์ํฅ ์กฐ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๋น์ฌ๋ ์ฐ๊ฐ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ์ ๋ง์ด 2์ต 1,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 2์ต 2,000๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋ฒ์๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํฉ๋๋ค. |
| This guidance reflects approximately $12 million to $15 million in onetime payments related to our cost optimization program. Finally, from a capital allocation perspective, our Board of Directors approved recommitting our share repurchase authorization back to $250 million. Share repurchases remain an important part of our capital allocation philosophy, and we intend to remain active and opportunistic in the market. To summarize, the scale and product initiatives we undertook over the last 18 months have contributed to our improved momentum and positioned us as the cyber resilient provider of choice for large enterprises. | ์ด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์๋ ๋น์ฉ ์ต์ ํ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ฝ 1,200๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์์ 1,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ์ผํ์ฑ ์ง๊ธ์ก์ด ๋ฐ์๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก, ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ด์ฌํ๋ ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์น์ธ ํ๋๋ฅผ 2์ต 5,000๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ์ฌ์ค์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์น์ธํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฌ์ฃผ ๋งค์ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์๋ณธ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ ์ฒ ํ์์ ์ค์ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ฅ์์ ์ ๊ทน์ ์ด๊ณ ๊ธฐํ์ฃผ์์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ ๊ณํ์ ๋๋ค. ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด, ์ง๋ 18๊ฐ์ ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ถ์งํ ๊ท๋ชจ ํ๋์ ์ ํ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ๋ชจ๋ฉํ ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ์ผ๋ฉฐ, ๋๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ํ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์ ๊ณต์ ์ฒด๋ก์ ์ ํ๋ฐ๋ ์์น์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์๋ฆฌ๋งค๊น์์ผฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Commvault Cloud Unity further extends our innovation leadership, and we are excited to capitalize on the strong customer reception to our enhanced platform in fiscal '27 and beyond. Now I will turn it back to the operator to open the line for questions. Operator? | Commvault Cloud Unity๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํ์ ๋ฆฌ๋์ญ์ ๋์ฑ ํ์ฅ์ํค๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 27ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ดํ์ ํฅ์๋ ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ฐ์์ ํ์ฉํ ์ ์๊ฒ ๋์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ์ง์์๋ต์ ์ํด ๊ตํ์์๊ฒ ํ์ ์ ๋๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ตํ์? |
# Commvault Systems (CVLT) 2026๋
3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์์ฝ
## ์ฃผ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด ์ฑ๊ณผ
- **๊ตฌ๋
๋งค์ถ 30% ์ฑ์ฅ** ($206M), SaaS ๋งค์ถ 44% ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ๊ฒฌ์ธ
- **๊ตฌ๋
ARR 28% ์ฆ๊ฐ** ($941M), SaaS ARR 40% ์ฑ์ฅ ($364M)
- **์ด ๋งค์ถ 19% ์ฑ์ฅ** ($314M), Rule of 40 ๋ฌ์ฑ (์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๊ณผ ์์ต์ฑ์ ๊ท ํ)
- **๋นGAAP EBIT ๋ง์ง 19.6%**, ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค ์ํฅ ์กฐ์ (EBIT ๋ง์ง 19-20%, ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ $215-220M)
## ์ฌ์
ํ์ด๋ผ์ดํธ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต
- **์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๊ฐ์ธ**: 700๊ฐ ์ ๊ท ๊ตฌ๋
๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐ (์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ๋ถ๊ธฐ), ์ด 14,000๊ฐ ์ด์ ๊ตฌ๋
๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ณด์
- **Commvault Cloud Unity ํ๋ซํผ ์ถ์**: ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณด์, ID ๋ณต์๋ ฅ, ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋จ์ผ ํ๋ซํผ์ผ๋ก ํตํฉํ ์ฐจ์ธ๋ ์๋ฃจ์
์ผ๋ก ์์ฅ ์ฐจ๋ณํ
- **AI ๋ฐ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ**: AWS ๊ธ๋ก๋ฒ ์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ง ํํธ๋์ ์์, AWS European Sovereign Cloud ๋ฐ์นญ ํํธ๋ ์ ์ , Pinecone๊ณผ ๋ฒกํฐ DB ๋ณดํธ ํํธ๋์ญ ์ฒด๊ฒฐ
## ๊ฒฝ์์ง ํค ๋ฐ ์ ๋ง
- **๊ธ์ ์ ํค**: ๊ฒฝ์์ง์ ํ์ ๋ฆฌ๋์ญ๊ณผ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๋ฉฐ, AI ์๋์ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต
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| Operator: [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers of Wells Fargo. | **Operator:** [๊ตํ์ ์๋ด] ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Wells Fargo์ Aaron Rakers๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Aaron Rakers: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division I have two, if I can, real quick. First, I was wondering if you could unpack the -- I guess it's the free cash flow, but particularly the accounts receivable increase and the DSO increase in the quarter. I know you had alluded to later in the quarter kind of receivable collection. So can you unpack that, just help me understand why DSO has gone up so much and what you saw towards the end of the quarter, just given linearity. | **Aaron Rakers:** ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ(free cash flow)๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์, ํนํ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋งค์ถ์ฑ๊ถ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ DSO(๋งค์ถ์ฑ๊ถํ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ) ์ฆ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๋ถ๊ธฐ ํ๋ฐ์ ์ฑ๊ถ ํ์์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์ธ๊ธ์ ํ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. DSO๊ฐ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋ง์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์ด์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฉ์ด์๋์ง, ๋งค์ถ ๋ฐ์ ์์ (linearity)์ ๊ณ ๋ คํด์ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๊ฐ์ฌํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. Aaron, this is Danielle. Good to talk to you again. So I know I talked about this in my prepared remarks, and you kind of hit on it, right? But one of the things we saw this quarter, and it's not uncommon in Q3, I'll be honest. Q3 has a tendency to be one of our most pressured free cash flow quarters. And it's really just because of the way the sales cycles work with the calendar year-end, we have a tendency to see more deals close in the last few weeks of the quarter and this quarter was no exception to that. I can tell you, over 60% of our deals actually closed in the last few weeks of the quarter. And so what you see in free cash flow is really the reflection of that. The other thing I'll call out is we had an additional payroll cycle for both the U.S. and Canada. That's not normal for us in a quarter. And obviously, the U.S. is one of our largest payrolls, right? So both of those things are putting pressure on free cash flow. I do want to highlight our free cash flow guidance for the year, if you normalize for the onetime payments that we're making in Q4 tied to the cost optimization program remains unchanged. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ์ ๋ฐ. ๋ค๋์์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ์๊ธฐํ๊ฒ ๋์ด ๋ฐ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ์ง์ ํ์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ธ๋ฐ์. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณธ ๊ฒ ์ค ํ๋๋, ์์งํ 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ํํ ์๋ ์ผ์ ๋๋ค๋ง, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ(free cash flow)์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ์๋ฐ๋ฐ๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ๋๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฐ๋ง ๊ฒฐ์ฐ๊ณผ ๋ง๋ฌผ๋ฆฐ ์์ ์ฌ์ดํด ๋๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ์, ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ช ์ฃผ์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ ์ฑ์ฌ๋๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์๊ณ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์์ธ๋ ์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฑฐ๋์ 60% ์ด์์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง์ง๋ง ๋ช ์ฃผ์ ์ฑ์ฌ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ์์ ๋ณด์๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๋ฐ์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ๊ฒ์ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์บ๋๋ค ๋ชจ๋์์ ๊ธ์ฌ ์ง๊ธ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ํ ๋ฒ ๋ ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ํฌ์๊ฒ ์ ์์ ์ธ ์ํฉ์ด ์๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ช ๋ฐฑํ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ์ ํฌ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๊ธ์ฌ ์ง๊ธ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง ๊ณณ ์ค ํ๋์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ ๋ชจ๋ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ(free cash flow)์ ์๋ฐ์ ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ฐ๊ฐ ์์ฌํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ์ ์, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋น์ฉ ์ต์ ํ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํ์ฌ ๋ฐ์ํ๋ ์ผํ์ฑ ์ง๊ธ์ ์ ์ํํ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๊ฐ ๋ณ๋ ์์ด ์ ์ง๋๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Aaron Rakers: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Yes. And then as a quick follow-up, I can appreciate you're not giving guidance beyond this fiscal year. But I know in your slide deck, you highlight again kind of the TAM expectations growing at a 12% CAGR. I think $38 billion kind of the longer term total addressable market opportunity. I'm curious when you're asked about kind of the longer-term growth narrative, is the 12% a good underpinning growth rate to think about as we look out beyond this year? How are you thinking about the competitive landscape, the ability to take share in the context of that TAM growth expectation? | **Aaron Rakers:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋จํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก, ์ฌ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ์ดํ์ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ์์ผ์ ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌ๋ผ์ด๋ ์๋ฃ์์ TAM์ด ์ฐํ๊ท 12% ์ฑ์ฅํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์๋๋ค๊ณ ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์กฐํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฝ 380์ต ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ ์ฒด ์์ฅ ๊ธฐํ(total addressable market)๋ฅผ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฅ๊ธฐ ์ฑ์ฅ ์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฐ์ผ์ค ๋, ์ฌํด ์ดํ๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ค๋ณผ ๋ 12%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๋ก ์๊ฐํ๋ฉด ๋ ๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ TAM ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๊ฒฝ์ ํ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ์์ฅ ์ ์ ์จ ํ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณ์ ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. No, thanks for the question again. We're not going to talk about next year right now, right? We will obviously, alongside the new CFO conversations, we will talk about what we're thinking for next fiscal year at a later time. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ง๊ธ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ก์ด CFO์ ํจ๊ป ๋ค์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์ ๋ํ ๊ณํ์ ์ถํ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Okay. Aaron, this is Sanjay. Again, just to reiterate, the business is in a good place. We had our best land software quarter ever. We had a second best land SaaS quarter ever. Our rule of 40 continues to be consistent. Across the board, the platform -- the new platform releases bodes really well based on everything we've seen. So we will, obviously, at the right time, share more of that. So -- but we are -- we have no -- I think we will definitely outpace market. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, Aaron, ์ ๋ Sanjay์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ํ ๋ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ฌ์ ์ ์ข์ ์ํ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ์ ๋๋ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋๋ SaaS ๋ถ๋ฌธ๋ ์ญ๋ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ์ข์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. Rule of 40๋ ์ง์์ ์ผ๋ก ์ผ๊ด์ฑ์ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ซํผ, ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ ์ถ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณธ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ ํ ์๊ธฐ์ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๊ณต์ ํ๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํ์คํ ๊ฒ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์์ฅ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ ํ์คํ ์์ง๋ฅผ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jason Ader with William Blair. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ William Blair์ Jason Ader๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Yes. Just first on the currency situation. With this in line with your expectations? I know you gave guidance. You had a nice beat on the revenue and the ARR. Was there an extra benefit relative to your expectations from currency? | **Jason Ader:** ๋ค, ํ์จ ์ํฉ์ ๋ํด ๋จผ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ท์ฌ์ ์์๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๋์ง์? ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ์ จ๊ณ , ๋งค์ถ๊ณผ ARR์์ ์ข์ ์ค์ ์ ๋ณด์ด์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ์์ ๋๋น ํ์จ๋ก ์ธํ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ด์ต์ด ์์์ต๋๊น? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Sorry, Jason, I think I'm a little confused by your question. Which metric are you referring to? | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, Jason. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ํํ ์ดํดํ์ง ๋ชปํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ค ์งํ๋ฅผ ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Well, you gave guidance on a reported basis, right? And I just want to know... | **Jason Ader:** ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์, ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๊ฐ ์๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์... |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: You're talking about for revenue? | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋งค์ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division And ARR, both. Was currency in line with your expectations? | **Jason Ader:** ARR ๋ ๋ค์. ํ์จ์ ์์๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๋์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So on a reported basis for revenue, currency was in line with our expectation. From an ARR perspective, we actually give -- we don't give -- we only give annual guidance on ARR and we do that on a constant currency basis. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค. ๋ณด๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋งค์ถ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ํ์จ ์ํฅ์ ์ ํฌ ์์๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ์ต๋๋ค. ARR ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ ํฌ๋ ARR์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ง ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ(constant currency) ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Okay. I got you. All right. And then the net new ARR, I think constant currency was for total net new ARR was $39 million. I believe on the last earnings call, you guys talked about mid-40s. So just wanted to understand, was that below what your expectations were? And if so, why? | **Jason Ader:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ ๊ท ARR ๊ด๋ จํด์, ์ ์ฒด ์์ ๊ท ARR์ด ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก 3,900๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ์ค์ ๋ฐํ์์ 4,000๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ค๋ฐ๋๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ตํ๋๋ฐ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์์์น๋ฅผ ํํํ ๊ฒ์ธ์ง, ๋ง์ฝ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So let me unpack that a little bit, right? So -- and as we mentioned on the call, we had a really strong new customer quarter. It was actually our top term software new customer quarter and our second highest customer acquisition quarter for SaaS. For SaaS, in particular, I will tell you, 70% of our net new ARR was driven by SaaS. As a reminder, we land those customers at lower ASPs, on average, typically 2 to 3x what we would land a software customer with. And so what you're seeing in the ARR is just a reflection of that math. We're still very happy about that because what that does is give us the opportunity to go out, cross-sell and gain further value with those customers. The other comment I'll make is going back to the software land piece, we have a tendency to land those customers at a longer duration. So that does have some modest dilution on ARR. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช
๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ฐํ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ์ค์ ์ด ์ ๋ง ์ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์จํ๋ ๋ฏธ์ค ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๊ณ , SaaS ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์๋ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ๋์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ SaaS์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ์ ๊ท ์์ฆ ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ)์ 70%๊ฐ SaaS์์ ๋ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ๊ท ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋ฎ์ ASP(ํ๊ท ํ๋งค ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ)๋ก ์์ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์จํ๋ ๋ฏธ์ค ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋๋น 2~3๋ฐฐ ์์ค์
๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ARR์์ ๋ณด์๋ ์์น๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ์ฐ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ํฅํ ๊ต์ฐจ ํ๋งค๋ฅผ ์งํํ๊ณ ํด๋น ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์ถํ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐํ๋ฅผ ํ๋ณดํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ผ๋ก ๋์๊ฐ์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋ ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ณดํ๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ARR์ ๋ค์ ํฌ์ ํจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ฌ์ค์ ๋๋ค. |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Okay. I guess what I'm getting at, guys, is just what was the delta versus the $45 million that you guys had talked about you ended up with $39 million, something must have not played out as you expected? | **Jason Ader:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ 4,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ธํ์๋๋ฐ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ์ผ๋ก 3,900๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ก ๋ง๊ฐํ์ผ๋, ์์๊ณผ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ฒ ์งํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ๋ง์์ด์์ฃ ? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Yes. So this is Sanjay. Jason, it's really just -- we sold a lot of SaaS deals, land deals this quarter. And when you -- that's why you have to look at it on an annual basis because there will be variation quarter-to-quarter. We sell a lot of software, and it was also a big software land quarter for us. So when you take -- you take that together, it's -- that kind of explains the delta, if you would. But by every stretch of the imagination, it was a very strong quarter. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, ์ ๋ ์ฐ์ ์ด์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์ด์จ, ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ SaaS ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ์ ์ ๋ง ๋ง์ด ์ฒด๊ฒฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ด์ผ ํ๋ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ๋ณ๋์ด ์์ ์๋ฐ์ ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ํํธ์จ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ง์ด ํ๋งคํ๊ณ , ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ๋ ์๋นํ ๋ง์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง๋ฅผ ํจ๊ป ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ์ค๋ช ํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ค ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋๋ผ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: And Jason, let me just add a little bit more with the numbers, too, which I think might help last quarter for perspective. 61% of our net new ARR was SaaS. This quarter, that's 70%. Again, when you're talking landing these customers at a 2 to 3x smaller ASP than software, that does have a significant impact on ARR. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์ ์ด์จ, ์์น๋ฅผ ์ข ๋ ์ถ๊ฐํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์ดํด์ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์์ ๊ท ARR์ 61%๊ฐ SaaS์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ 70%์ ๋๋ค. ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋๋น 2~3๋ฐฐ ์์ ASP๋ก ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ฉด, ์ด๋ ARR์ ์๋นํ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ฌ์ค์ ๋๋ค. |
| Jason Ader: William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Got you. Okay. So the explanation, if I can summarize is just you're seeing a bigger shift to SaaS than maybe you expected at the beginning -- when you gave the guidance and that had an impact on the number. | **Jason Ader:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์์ฝํ์๋ฉด ์ฐ์ด ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ ๋น์ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค SaaS๋ก์ ์ ํ์ด ๋ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ์์น์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋ค๋ ์ค๋ช ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** I notice you've only provided a title/role ("President, CEO & Director") but no actual spoken content to translate. Could you please provide the actual Q&A response or statement that needs to be translated? I'm ready to translate the spoken content once you share it. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And larger software deals as well. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง์ ๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Planned software deals with longer duration, yes. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ๋ ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ง ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋๋ค์ ๊ณํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of James Fish with Piper Sandler. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Piper Sandler์ James Fish๋๊ป์ ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Fish: Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division I appreciate the questions here. First, how much does Unity impact this shift from sort of term to SaaS, if at all? And second, can you just help us understand if SaaS is so strong, and I get that the base is getting bigger and we're anniversarying Clumio, but why the 4% sequential drop in cloud net retention rate this quarter? | **James Fish:** ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ , Unity๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์์ SaaS๋ก์ ์ ํ์ ์ผ๋ง๋ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก, SaaS๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ผ๋ฉด, ๋ฌผ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ ์ปค์ง๊ณ ์๊ณ Clumio 1์ฃผ๋ ์ ๋ง์ดํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํ์ง๋ง, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ์์ ์ง์จ(net retention rate)์ด ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น 4% ํ๋ฝํ ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Okay. Jim, it's Sanjay. So Unity -- so we announced it in November. So it's what, you know, shy of 3 months ago. And what Unity really does, if I could just reiterate is it brings together workloads, data wherever they live under 1 control plane. So we're giving customers the ability to manage anything in -- what we call in the AI era under 1 control plane. And that is something that is -- we see as being the future. Now what we do is we also, as you know, cater to customers with large on-premise software and growing SaaS capabilities. And that is their decision on how they wish to implement and the journey they take. So they work in tandem. So as far -- at this point, we're not committing to change the model unilaterally in any way next fiscal year. It's a natural thing. We'll meet customers where they are. And what we've really done is take away any kind of complexity a customer may face in the journey to the hybrid and multi-cloud and really make it seamless. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, ์ง. ์ฐ์ ์ด์
๋๋ค. Unity๋ 11์์ ๋ฐํํ์ผ๋๊น ์ด์ 3๊ฐ์์ด ์ฑ ์ ๋์ต๋๋ค. Unity๊ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ํ๋ ์ผ์ ๋ค์ ํ ๋ฒ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ํฌ๋ก๋์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋์ ์๋ ํ๋์ ์ปจํธ๋กค ํ๋ ์ธ(control plane) ์๋๋ก ํตํฉํ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ AI ์๋์ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ๋์ ์ปจํธ๋กค ํ๋ ์ธ์์ ๊ด๋ฆฌํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๋ ๋ฏธ๋์
๋๋ค. ์์๋ค์ํผ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ์จํ๋ ๋ฏธ์ค ์ํํธ์จ์ด์ ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ SaaS ์ญ๋์ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ฐ์ถ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ง์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ตฌํํ๊ณ ์ด๋ค ์ฌ์ ์ ํํ ์ง๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง๊ฐ ํจ๊ป ์๋ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ ์์ ์์ ๋ค์ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋์ ์ผ๋ฐฉ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ชจ๋ธ์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝํ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ์ฝ์ํ์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ํ์์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์๋ ๊ณณ์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋ง๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ํด์จ ์ผ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฐ ๋ฉํฐํด๋ผ์ฐ๋(multi-cloud)๋ก ๊ฐ๋ ์ฌ์ ์์ ์ง๋ฉดํ ์ ์๋ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ณต์ก์ฑ์ ์ ๊ฑฐํ๊ณ ์ ๋ง ์ํํ๊ฒ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: And Jim, I can take the second part of your question. So as it relates to our SaaS NRR, and I talked a little bit about this in my prepared remarks, but let me double-click into it, right? So a couple of things went into our SaaS NRR this quarter. So the first thing, and you kind of -- you briefed this on your question, right, is that we're dealing with a much larger customer base. So our SaaS customer base is now exceeding 9,000 total customers. So from an absolute dollar perspective, right, adding those same numbers of dollars, you're not getting the same level of uplift that you have historically. The second thing, and again, you'll hear this right, it's a theme this quarter. We have such a strong new SaaS customer quarter. Obviously, those dollars don't show up in our NRR number yet. And I'll remind you, right, we have 1 sales force that's doing both, right? So that's number two. The last thing I will call out is there was a modest mix shift in some of our product capabilities among certain early adopter customers, right? We have the benefit of having customers adopt our different innovation early. But with that, we also deal with changes that need to happen over time. That's the beauty of what we offer customers and what Sanjay was describing with the Unity platform that we'll be able to take to a different level next year. But we -- these customers are still our customers. We're not seeing uptick churn. This is really just our business going through natural maturity. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. SaaS NRR(์๋งค์ถ์ ์ง์จ)๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ ๊ฐ ์ค๋น๋ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ๊ฐ๋จํ ์ธ๊ธํ๋๋ฐ, ์ข ๋ ์์ธํ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ SaaS NRR์ ์ํฅ์ ์ค ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ์์ธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ์ง๋ฌธ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ์ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ด ์ด 9,000๋ช ์ ๋์ด์ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋์ ์ธ ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ธ์ก ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋์ผํ ๊ธ์ก์ ์ถ๊ฐํ๋๋ผ๋ ์์ ์ฒ๋ผ ๊ฐ์ ์์ค์ ์์น๋ฅ ์ ์ป์ง ๋ชปํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฃผ์ ํ ๋ง์ด๊ธฐ๋ ํ๋ฐ, ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๊ฐ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋น์ฐํ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋งค์ถ์ ์์ง NRR ์์น์ ๋ฐ์๋์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๊ฒ์, ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ ์ํํ๋ ํ๋์ ์์ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ํฌ์ธํธ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ๊ฒ์ ์ผ๋ถ ์ผ๋ฆฌ ์ด๋ตํฐ(early adopter) ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค ์ฌ์ด์์ ์ ํ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๋ํ ์ํญ์ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ค์ํ ํ์ ์ ์กฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋์ ํด์ฃผ์๋ ํํ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ์ ๋์์ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ํ์ํ ๋ณํ๋ค๋ ํจ๊ป ๋ค๋ฃจ๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฐ์น์ด๋ฉฐ, Sanjay๊ฐ ์ค๋ช ํ๋ Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํด ๋ด๋ ์๋ ํ ๋จ๊ณ ๋ ๋ฐ์ ์ํฌ ์ ์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ ํ ์ ํฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด์ญ๋๋ค. ์ดํ๋ฅ ์ด ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ ๋จ์ง ์ ํฌ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค๊ฐ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฌ์ด ์ฑ์ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๊ฑฐ์น๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director There's no churn impact here. Any unusual that's important. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ดํ๋ฅ (churn) ์ํฅ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํน๋ณํ ์ค์ํ ์ด์ ์งํ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| James Fish: Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Got it. If I could follow up on that 9,000 SaaS as my question here. You have over 9,000 SaaS customers, 14,000 total subscription customers plus, where does SaaS penetration get to? And how much are stand-alone SaaS customers? | **James Fish:** ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. 9,000๊ฐ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฑด์ ๋ํด ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ 9,000๊ฐ ์ด์์ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ด 14,000๊ฐ ์ด์์ ๊ตฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์, SaaS ์นจํฌ์จ์ ์ด๋ ์์ค๊น์ง ๋๋ฌํ ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ๋ฆฝํ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋๋์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So we -- I think we've said before, but of those over 9,000, roughly 30% of them also have software tied to them. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, 9,000๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ค์์ ์ฝ 30% ์ ๋๊ฐ ์ํํธ์จ์ด๋ ํจ๊ป ์ฌ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director On a growing base. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ฑ์ฅํ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes, on a growing base. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And one that I had closely also is that nearly 50% of our enterprise SaaS customers use more than 1 offering, okay? That's up 8, 9 points from last year. So that also shows you that as the hybrid journey becomes real for our customers, the advantage of our platform becomes apparent, especially in the larger complicated enterprise journey, hybrid cloud journeys. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ๊ณ ์๋ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์งํ๋ ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑฐ์ 50%๊ฐ 2๊ฐ ์ด์์ ์ ํ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์๋ ๋๋น 8~9%ํฌ์ธํธ ์์นํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ด ์ค์ ๋ก ์งํ๋๋ฉด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ๋ซํผ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ด ๋ช ํํด์ง๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๋๋ค. ํนํ ๋๊ท๋ชจ์ ๋ณต์กํ ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ์ฌ์ ์์ ๋์ฑ ๊ทธ๋ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Heath with KeyBanc Capital Markets. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ KeyBanc Capital Markets์ Eric Heath๋์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Eric Heath: KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division I just want to follow up on some of the prior questions. But on the SaaS NRR, is there anything from a go-to-market perspective incentive-wise to shift the sales force focus over to landing new logos as opposed to expansion? Is that some of the reason to potentially explain why the SaaS new logos is maybe a little bit stronger while the NRR was a little bit softer. | **Eric Heath:** SaaS NRR(์๋งค์ถ ์ ์ง์จ)๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ๋ค์ ๋ํ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. GTM(์์ฅ ์ง์ถ) ๊ด์ ์ด๋ ์ธ์ผํฐ๋ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์์ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ด์ ์ ๊ธฐ์กด ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ์ฅ๋ณด๋ค๋ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๋ก ์ ํํ๋๋ก ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์๋์? ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด SaaS ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ ๋ฐ๋ฉด NRR์ด ๋ค์ ์ฝ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๋ ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ์ค๋ช ํ ์ ์์๊น์? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director We do our comp plans on an annual basis, Eric. And so there's been no mid-quarter or midyear change to that. It's just between the fact that what we're delivering to our customers in SaaS as part of the platform in conjunction with our software capabilities is what they need. And so we're seeing a healthy pickup there. And also the work we're doing with our ecosystem partners is also making it easy for customers to get access to and use it. So I think the product stands on its own, the SaaS capability stand on its own. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ณด์ ๊ณํ์ ๋งค๋ ์๋ฆฝํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค, Eric. ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค๊ฐ์ด๋ ์ฐ์ค์ ๋ณ๊ฒฝํ ์ฌํญ์ ์ ํ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋จ์ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ผํ์ผ๋ก SaaS๋ฅผ ํตํด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ญ๋์ด ๊ฒฐํฉ๋์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํ์๋ก ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ฌ์ค ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ๊ฑด์ ํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ์ํ๊ณ ํํธ๋๋ค๊ณผ ์งํํ๊ณ ์๋ ์์ ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ์ฝ๊ฒ ์ ๊ทผํ๊ณ ์ฌ์ฉํ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ ํ ์์ฒด๊ฐ, SaaS ์ญ๋ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ๊ทธ ์์ฒด๋ก ์ ์ฆ๋๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Eric Heath: KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division Got it. And then just one more maybe clarification. Just help understand what drove some of the term duration elongation this quarter after being on the shorter side of the last quarter or two? And then just anything on expectations for duration on term for next quarter. | **Eric Heath:** ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ํ๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋น๊ต์ ์งง์ ํธ์ด์๋ ๋์ถ ๋ง๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ธธ์ด์ง ์ด์ ๊ฐ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ถ ๋ง๊ธฐ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ง์ด ์์ผ์๋ฉด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Yes. So the way to think about it is what really affects term within a quarter is the number of large deals. That's the biggest contributor to that. And this quarter, the term was heavily influenced by some large new customer deals. So in Q3, we saw a modest pickup and sort of an uptick in the duration quarter-on-quarter. And we're winning large customers that are multiyear, which is a darn good thing. What's also important that -- for me to underscore is that our median duration remains in a normal range, okay? And I guess we could have done a better job explaining term last quarter. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ค์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ํ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ฑด์์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์์ธ์ด์ฃ . ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ช๋ช ๋ํ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ฑฐ๋์ ์ํฅ์ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ํญ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ณต์๋ ๊ณ์ฝ์ ๋ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ ์ ๋ง ์ข์ ์ผ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ์ค์ํ ์ ์ ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ํด ์ข ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ํ์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๋ญ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line -- Yes. Your next question comes from the line of Howard Ma with Guggenheim. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๊ตฌ๊ฒํ์์ ํ์๋ ๋ง ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Howard Ma: Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division I want to follow on the -- on the constant currency net new ARR threads, the $39 million in the quarter. So it's just given -- Sanjay and Danielle, given your comments earlier, net adds were strong. I think we have more clarity on the SaaS NRR decline. But on the term side, the term net new ARR was -- I think it was about $17 million. So it seems like maybe there was a shortfall in term net new ARR. And last quarter, average duration compressed, this quarter average duration, it seemed like an upside a little bit. So I'm deducing that maybe it's average term expansion ARR was in aggregate. And I understand that there were some large multiyear deals, but maybe the expansion was a little weaker than expected. And -- and really more importantly, how should we think about it? I guess is $17 million kind of a baseline going forward? Like what gives you confidence, especially in light of Unity coming out that you can sustain this level of term expansion. | **Howard Ma:** ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค ์ ๊ท ARR 3,900๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋ํด ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. Sanjay๋๊ณผ Danielle๋๊ป์ ์์ ๋ง์ํ์ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๊ณ , SaaS NRR ํ๋ฝ์ ๋ํด์๋ ๋ช ํํ ์ดํดํ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ํ ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ ์ ๊ท ARR์ด ์ฝ 1,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ ๋์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ํ ์ ๊ท ARR์์ ๋ค์ ๋ถ์กฑ๋ถ์ด ์์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ํ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ถ์๋์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ํ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ํญ ์์นํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๊ฐ ์ถ๋ก ํ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ท ํ ํ์ฅ ARR์ด ์์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ค๋ ๊ณ์ฝ๋ค์ด ์์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ์ดํดํ์ง๋ง, ์๋ง๋ ํ์ฅ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ค์ ์ฝํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋๊ฐ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ์, ์ด๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? 1,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ ์์ผ๋ก์ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ํนํ Unity๊ฐ ์ถ์๋ ์ํฉ์์ ์ด๋ฌํ ์์ค์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ํ์ฅ์ ์ง์ํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ํ์ ์ ์ด๋์ ๋์ค๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: And I'm sorry, Howard. I want to make sure I understand the question. You're suggesting that the net new ARR for subscription was $17 million. I'm just trying to understand where to -- where you're getting the $17 million from? | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ํ์๋. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ ํํ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์. ๊ตฌ๋ ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์์ ๊ท ARR์ด 1,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ๊ทธ 1,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ผ๋ ์์น๋ฅผ ์ด๋์ ๊ฐ์ ธ์ค์ ๊ฑด์ง ์ดํดํ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋ ์ค์ ๋๋ค. |
| Howard Ma: Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division Maybe I -- look, maybe my number is incorrect, but whatever that number was, I'm seeing $18 million. So I guess on a constant currency basis, is that correct that term constant currency net ARR was $18 million, and that average expansion was maybe weaker than you expected and what to think going forward? | **Howard Ma:** ์ ์์น๊ฐ ํ๋ ธ์ ์๋ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด์จ๋ ์ ๊ฐ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์๋ 1,800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ๊ณ ์ ํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ ARR์ด 1,800๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ ๋ง๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํ๊ณ ์, ํ๊ท ํ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ค์ ์ฝํ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ณด์๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: I understand what you're saying. So you're just looking at the term software piece. So this isn't about expansion. I'm going to -- I talked about this before, but maybe let me make sure I'm clear on that. What we saw this quarter is land customers. And again, we had our strongest land term software customer quarter. We saw land customers come in at much longer durations. Now them coming at a longer duration is part of the business. We've talked about this historically, too. Actually, I think if you look at Q4 of last year, we had kind of a similar type pattern here. But that's really what's driving that change. I mentioned already the SaaS, the growth in the new SaaS customers. I also want to highlight our subscription ARR, if you look at it, it's actually our second best subscription ARR, net new add that we've had in the history of the company, organic, right? You got to look organic. So again, I talked about the pieces with the new customers. But overall, we're really happy with where we're at and where we'll be for the year. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๋ด์ฉ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ํ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ๋ง ๋ณด์๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ด๊ฑด ํ์ฅ์ ๊ดํ ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ์ง๋ง, ๋ค์ ํ ๋ฒ ๋ช ํํ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ณธ ๊ฒ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ(land customers)์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ด์ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค์ ์ผ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ๋ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์๋ 4๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด, ๋น์ทํ ํจํด์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ณํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋๋ ์์ธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ SaaS, ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ ์๊ณ ์. ๊ตฌ๋ ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ)๋ ๊ฐ์กฐํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์ฌ ์ญ์ฌ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ก ๋์ ์์ฆ๊ฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค๋ ์์ง๋ง, ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฌ ์ํฉ๊ณผ ์ฌํด ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๋ง์กฑํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And we could follow up on the one on the other callbacks. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฝ๋ฐฑ ๊ฑด๋ค์ ๋ํด์๋ ํ์ ์กฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ทจํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Howard Ma: Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division Maybe just a quick follow-up for you, Sanjay. The restructuring efforts that -- or I should say the incremental restructuring efforts, it seems to be entirely focused in our R&D org and perhaps operations, so R&D and operations. Is that -- so number one, is that true? And what gives you confidence that these cutbacks won't impact your growth prospects? | **Howard Ma:** ๊ตฌ๊ฒํ์ ์ฆ๊ถ, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํ ๋ต๋ณ์
๋๋ค. ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ์ ๋ํด ๊ฐ๋จํ ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ์ถ๊ฐ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ ์ด ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก R&D ์กฐ์ง๊ณผ ์ด์ ๋ถ๋ฌธ, ์ฆ R&D์ ์ด์์ ์ง์ค๋์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์ ๋๋ค. ์ฒซ์งธ, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ง๋์ง ํ์ธํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ฌํ ๋น์ฉ ์ ๊ฐ์ด ๊ท์ฌ์ ์ฑ์ฅ ์ ๋ง์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น์ง ์์ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ์ ํ์๋ ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฌด์์ ๋๊น? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Howard, I'm not sure where you're getting that from. That's -- no, we -- time and time again, as part of our regular process, as we get closer to the fiscal year and we look at what our priorities for the next year are and align our P&L to prioritize what we think is going to be part of the future. This quarter, this was -- this exercise was no exception. Now without getting in too much of the detail, some of it is recurring. Some of it is not recurring. We ran a voluntary retirement program that was well received. And -- so it wasn't on one group or another, it was something we offered up to the whole company. And some of the savings you saw on the EBIT line this quarter and beyond, and then others are going to be put back into the business where we need it. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด๋์ ๋์จ ๊ฑด์ง ์ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ค์. ์๋๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค์ ์ผํ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋๊ฐ ๊ฐ๊น์์ง ๋๋ง๋ค ๋ฐ๋ณต์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ ํด ์ฐ์ ์์๋ฅผ ๊ฒํ ํ๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๋์ ์ผ๋ถ๊ฐ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์์ต๊ณ์ฐ์๋ฅผ ๋ง์ถฐ ์กฐ์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ์์ธ๋ ์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๋๋ฌด ์ธ๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ง ์๊ณ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๋ฐ๋ณต์ ์ธ ์ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด๊ณ ์ผ๋ถ๋ ์ผํ์ฑ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์๋ฐ์ ํด์ง ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ ์ด์ํ๊ณ ๋ฐ์์ด ์ข์์ต๋๋ค. ํน์ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์๋ง ํด๋น๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ทธ ์ดํ EBIT ๋ผ์ธ์์ ๋ณด์๋ ์ ๊ฐ์ก ์ค ์ผ๋ถ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒ์ด๊ณ , ๋๋จธ์ง๋ ํ์ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ค์ ์ฌ์ ์ ํฌ์ ๋ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Howard Ma: Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division Just -- because I got it from -- in your -- in the press release, it says business technology is the unit. So can you just expand on what these business technology, that function entail? | **Howard Ma:** ๋ณด๋์๋ฃ์์ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๊ธฐ์ (business technology) ๋ถ์๋ผ๊ณ ๋์ ์์ด์ ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๋ ๊ฑด๋ฐ์. ์ด ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๊ธฐ์ ๋ถ์์ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ค ๊ฒ๋ค์ ํฌํจํ๋์ง ์ข ๋ ์ค๋ช ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: No, no, no, Howard. Sorry. So there's 2 restructuring plans that we have throughout the year. The first one, we actually talked about in the beginning of the year, and that was tied to some changes we are making in our business technology team, that's not our R&D team. That's our internal business technology team. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์๋๋๋ค, ํ์๋. ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌํด ์งํ ์ค์ธ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ ๊ณํ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ๋ ์ฐ์ด์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก, ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๊ธฐ์ ํ์ ์ผ๋ถ ๋ณ๊ฒฝ์ฌํญ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. R&D ํ์ด ์๋๋ผ ๋ด๋ถ ๋น์ฆ๋์ค ๊ธฐ์ ํ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** I notice you've only provided a title/role designation rather than actual spoken content from an earnings call Q&A session. Could you please provide the actual management response or spoken content that needs to be translated? For example, this might be an answer to an analyst's question about financial performance, strategy, guidance, etc. Once you share the actual dialogue or response content, I'll be happy to translate it into natural, fluent Korean following the guidelines you've specified. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: IT. The second restructure plan, which is really the one that we talked about in the press release this time and I made the comments on related to some of the cash flow impacts. That one is a company-wide initiative. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** IT ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ ๊ณํ์, ์ด๋ฒ์ ๋ณด๋์๋ฃ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๊ณ ์ ๊ฐ ํ๊ธํ๋ฆ ์ํฅ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ทธ ๊ณํ์ธ๋ฐ์. ์ด๊ฒ์ ์ ์ฌ์ ์ธ ์ด๋์ ํฐ๋ธ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Yes. And Howard, actually to be more direct, what this does is strengthen where we want to go, not weaken. So we're not cutting back on R&D or any such thing. This is really about strengthening where we think the opportunity lies. So just aligning the business. This is -- it's a good thing. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, ํ์๋, ์ข ๋ ์ง์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฒ ์กฐ์น๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋์๊ฐ๊ณ ์ ํ๋ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ ๊ฐํํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ง ์ฝํ์ํค๋ ๊ฒ ์๋๋๋ค. R&D๋ฅผ ์ถ์ํ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒ์ด ์ ํ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฑด ์ ๋ง๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๋ ๋ถ์ผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐํํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ ์ ์ฌ์ ๋ ฌํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Param Singh with Oppenheimer. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์คํํ์ด๋จธ์ ํ๋ ์ฑ์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Paramveer Singh: Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division I had a couple. First, look, this ARR question has been beaten to dead, but I had a slightly different question on it. As I look to the future, and again, I'm not asking for guidance, but as I look forward, typically, these lower ARR SaaS customers will scale, right? And then based on historical trends, do you think it is -- should we assume that there will be some re-acceleration with these customers as they come back with the potential of higher NRR different from this lower baseline and potential increase in net new ARR? Or do you think that since there's a systemic shift towards more SaaS customers coming into the ecosystem, that this will kind of be a new baseline for the next few years until you have a larger SaaS base. How should we think about it logically in the longer term. | **Paramveer Singh:** ์ข์ ์ง๋ฌธ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ช ๊ฐ์ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ , ARR ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ๋ง์ด ๋์๋ค๋ ๊ฑด ์์ง๋ง, ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๋์์ ์ ๊ทผํด์ฃผ์
์ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฏธ๋๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณผ ๋ - ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ์์ฒญํ์๋ ๊ฑด ์๋๋ผ๋ ์ ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค๋ง - ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฐ ๋ฎ์ ARR์ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ์ปค์ง๊ฒ ๋์ฃ , ๋ง์ต๋๊น? ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ํธ๋ ๋๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ดค์ ๋, ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ค์ ๋์์์ ๋ ๋์ NRR(์์์ต์ ์ง์จ)๋ก ์ฌ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? ํ์ฌ์ ๋ฎ์ ๋ฒ ์ด์ค๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ, ์์ ๊ท ARR ์ฆ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ ๋ง์ ๋๋ค. ์๋๋ฉด ๋ ๋ง์ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ํ๊ณ๋ก ์ ์ ๋๋ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ๋ ํฐ SaaS ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ ๋๊น์ง ํฅํ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์๋ก์ด ๋ฒ ์ด์ค๋ผ์ธ์ด ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ๊ด์ ์์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ ผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํด์ผ ํ ๊น์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: So I'm going to -- I think I understand your question, so I'm going to answer it. But if I'm not answering what you're asking, please feel free to clarify, right? So yes, so we land these customers at lower ASPs, as I talked about. Historically -- and I think we've said this, historically, we land at roughly $40,000. That's our ASP for these customers. Right now, we see anywhere from 30% to 40% depending on the quarter, right, of our customer, that cross-sell. I will tell you actually we're seeing even better traction in our enterprise customers. Our enterprise customers -- we're approaching 50% of them having more than 1 SaaS product. That's up 700 basis points from a year ago. Without giving you specific guidance for next year, what I can tell you is we have a history of growing the lifetime value of these customers, and we aspire to continue to do that. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ดํดํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ผ๋ ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ฝ ์ ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธํ์ ๋ด์ฉ๊ณผ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ต๋ณ์ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ฉด, ์ธ์ ๋ ์ง ๋ค์ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋ ๋ฎ์ ASP(ํ๊ท ํ๋งค ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ)๋ก ํ๋ณดํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด - ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ์ ์ด ์๋๋ฐ - ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฝ 4๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์์ค์์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ด๋ค ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๋ํ ์ ํฌ ASP์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ ์์ง๋ง, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ฝ 30%์์ 40% ์ ๋๊ฐ ํฌ๋ก์ค์ (๊ต์ฐจ ํ๋งค)๋ก ์ด์ด์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์์ ๋ ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๊ฑฐ์ 50%๊ฐ 2๊ฐ ์ด์์ SaaS ์ ํ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ 1๋ ์ ๊ณผ ๋น๊ตํด 700bp(๋ฒ ์ด์์ค ํฌ์ธํธ) ์ฆ๊ฐํ ์์น์ ๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ ์ ๋ํ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ฅผ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ ์ด๋ ต์ง๋ง, ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ์์ ๊ฐ์น(lifetime value)๋ฅผ ์ฑ์ฅ์์ผ์จ ์ญ์ฌ๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง์ํด ๋๊ฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And I think, Param, that with the Unity platform, it will make it even easier for customers to absorb new capabilities seamlessly. That is part of the design of the technology. So we think that being able to cross-sell over time is definitely part of our strategy, as we've shared before. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Param, Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์๋ก์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฅ๋ค์ ๋์ฑ ์ํํ๊ฒ ๋์ ํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด ๊ธฐ์ ์ค๊ณ์ ํต์ฌ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ํฌ๋ก์ค์ (cross-sell)์ ์งํํ ์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ ๋ต์ ์ผ๋ถ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ ์ด์ ์๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Paramveer Singh: Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division So let me go into my second -- yes, go ahead, Danielle. | **Paramveer Singh:** ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค -- ๋ค, ๋ค๋์ ๋ง์ํ์ธ์. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: No. I just wanted to add one more thing, which I thought would maybe be helpful. Our SaaS customers over $100,000 are actually up over 45%. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์๋์. ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ, ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. 10๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ด์ ๊ท๋ชจ์ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์ค์ ๋ก 45% ์ด์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Paramveer Singh: Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division So let me segue into my second part of my question, which is on Unity. Obviously, it's very early days, but if you could share some feedback. And how should we think about based on that feedback, the adoption of Unity driving higher basically SaaS ARR over time. Is there any way to conceptualize that? | **Paramveer Singh:** ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ธ Unity๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ด๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง, ๋ฐ์ผ์ ํผ๋๋ฐฑ์ ๊ณต์ ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ ํผ๋๋ฐฑ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก Unity ๋์ ์ด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ SaaS ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ)์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ฆ๊ฐ์ํฌ์ง ์๊ฐํด๋ณผ ์ ์์๊น์? ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ ํํ ์ ์๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ด ์์๊น์? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director We have conceptualized many things around that platform. We're very excited about it, Param, as you can imagine, at SHIFT, you saw how much we shared. The platform is just literally, we announced it in November. It was broadly -- most of it was broadly available end of the year. We're in the early days of it. The pipeline looks great. The feedback from the industry, I shared some on my prepared comments, is very positive. And it's early days to put out any pattern matching on it. But everything in the product, especially around its AI capabilities and our ability to bring together data security, Identity Resilience and True Recovery is second to none. My goal -- our goal when we built and designed this product was to make it super easy for customers to embrace logical extensions of their resilience capability. So translated into a go-to-market piece, cross-sell becomes friction-free. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ๋ง์ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๊ตฌ์ํด์์ต๋๋ค. Param, ์์ํ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ, SHIFT์์ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ง์ ๋ด์ฉ์ ๊ณต์ ํ๋์ง ๋ณด์ จ์ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋๋ก 11์์ ๋ฐํํ๊ณ , ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด ์ฐ๋ง์ ๊ด๋ฒ์ํ๊ฒ ์ถ์๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ ํ๋ฅญํด ๋ณด์ด๊ณ , ์ ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์๋ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ ๋ฐ์ธ์์ ์ผ๋ถ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์์ง ์ด๋ค ํจํด์ ์ ์ํ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด๋ฅธ ์์ ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ ํ์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ธก๋ฉด, ํนํ AI ์ญ๋๊ณผ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณด์(Data Security), ์์ด๋ดํฐํฐ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(Identity Resilience), ์ง์ ํ ๋ณต๊ตฌ(True Recovery)๋ฅผ ํตํฉํ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ ํ์ ์ถ์ข ์ ๋ถํํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ด ์ ํ์ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๊ณ ์ค๊ณํ ๋์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(resilience) ์ญ๋์ ๋ ผ๋ฆฌ์ ํ์ฅ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ฝ๊ฒ ๋ฐ์๋ค์ผ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋ง๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ์์ฅ ์ง์ถ ๊ด์ ์ผ๋ก ํด์ํ๋ฉด, ๊ต์ฐจ ํ๋งค(cross-sell)๊ฐ ๋ง์ฐฐ ์์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ง๋ค๋ ์๋ฏธ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Paramveer Singh: Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division Right. Okay. And do you feel you need to update your sales team a little bit to pivot to some of these expanding capabilities? Or do you feel... | **Paramveer Singh:** The user wants me to translate this Q&A session content. However, this appears to be an incomplete question from an analyst at Oppenheimer. Let me check the rules: 1. Do NOT include speaker names - so I should remove "Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division" 2. Only translate the spoken content 3. This is a question that trails off mid-sentence Since this is just a question fragment and not a management response, I should translate it as is, removing the speaker identification. ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ํ์ฅ๋๋ ์ญ๋๋ค์ ๋์ํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ์์ ํ์ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ ๋ฐ์ดํธํ ํ์๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์ง์? ์๋๋ฉด... |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director They just delivered -- Param, they just delivered an amazing quarter. You guys are doing a great job. We're executing well. And of course, enablement of our team is job 1. They're only as good as how confident they are with the technology. So we continue to invest in our people. It's a big part of how we do things. And I'll be honest with you, I'm very proud of our sales team. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ ๋ง ๋๋ผ์ด ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ค์ ์ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. Param, ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ ์ ๋ง ํ๋ฅญํ ์ผ์ ํด๋ด๊ณ ๊ณ์ญ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ์คํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์ ์ญ๋ ๊ฐํ๊ฐ ์ต์ฐ์ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ํ ์์ ๊ฐ๋งํผ๋ง ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ธ๋ ฅ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ผํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ํฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ฐจ์งํฉ๋๋ค. ์์งํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์ ํ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์๋์ค๋ฝ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Rudy Kessinger with D.A. Davidson. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ D.A. Davidson์ Rudy Kessinger๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค, ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ ๋ฐ์์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ Ravi, ์์์ ์ง์ญ์ ๋ํด ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์์์ ์ง์ญ์ด ์ ๋ ๋๋น ์ฝ 10% ๊ฐ์ํ๋๋ฐ์, ์ด๋ ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ์ จ๋ 20~30%๋ ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ๊ณผ ๋น๊ตํ๋ฉด ์๋นํ ๋์กฐ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋จ์ํ ์ด๋ ค์ด ๋น๊ต ๊ธฐ์ ๋๋ฌธ์ธ์ง, ์๋๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ง์ญ์์ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ค ๋ณํ๊ฐ ์์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Rudy Kessinger: D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division So on the net new ARR, last quarter, you said you expected 60% of net new ARR to come from SaaS. And 60% of $45 million would be $27 million, and you did $27.1 million of SaaS net new ARR in Q3. And so from that lens, it would look like SaaS net ARR is kind of in line with expectations. And then back to Howard's point, it would thus look like term license net new ARR was below expectations or the primary reason for the $6 million delta versus the $45 million kind of baseline that was expected. So could you just, again, follow up on maybe the term net new ARR, was that below expectations? What was the impact of maybe longer duration on some deals than expected that resulted in some price compression, that ARR compression? I'm just not understanding how, based on these numbers, term was not below expectations. | **Rudy Kessinger:** ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๊ท ARR์ 60%๊ฐ SaaS์์ ๋์ฌ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์
จ์ต๋๋ค. 4,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ 60%๋ฉด 2,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ธ๋ฐ, 3๋ถ๊ธฐ์ SaaS ์ ๊ท ARR์ด ์ ํํ 2,710๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด SaaS ์ ๊ท ARR์ ์์๊ณผ ์ผ์นํ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด Howard๊ฐ ์ง์ ํ ๋๋ก, ํ
๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ์ ๊ท ARR์ด ์์์ ํํํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์์ ๊ธฐ์ค์น์๋ 4,500๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ๋๋น 600๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ฃผ๋ ์์ธ์ด์๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์
๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฒ ์ฌ์ญ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ, ํ
์ ๊ท ARR์ด ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ฎ์์ต๋๊น? ์ผ๋ถ ๊ณ์ฝ์์ ์์๋ณด๋ค ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ธํด ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ ์๋ฐ, ์ฆ ARR ์๋ฐ์ด ๋ฐ์ํ ์ํฅ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋์์ต๋๊น? ์ด ์์น๋ค์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ ๊ธฐ์๊ธ(term deposits)์ด ๊ธฐ๋์น๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋์ง ์์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ์ง ์ดํด๊ฐ ๋์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: No, I understand what you're asking, Rudy. And you're spot on with the SaaS net new ARR. So I'm glad you called that out specifically. So what we were assuming for term is that duration would remain consistent with Q2. What we saw is because of these large multiyear, quite frankly, like just long durations new software customers, we did see some pressure on term ARR tied to that. You are correct. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์๋์, ๋ฌด์จ ์ง๋ฌธ์ธ์ง ์ดํดํฉ๋๋ค, Rudy. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ SaaS ์ ๊ท ARR์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ ํํ ์ง์ผ์
จ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ธ๊ธํด ์ฃผ์
์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ํ (term) ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด 2๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๊ด๋๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ํ๋ ํ์์, ์์งํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์ด๋ฌํ ๋๊ท๋ชจ ๋ค๋ ๊ณ์ฝ, ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ๊ธด ์ ๊ท ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ก ์ธํด ํ ARR์ ์ผ๋ถ ์๋ฐ์ด ์์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And Rudy, as I've shared this over like repeatedly, we have to look at this on a broader term basis quarter-to-quarter because of the type of business we do, the kinds of customers we cater to, the complexity of the projects that they embark upon, the mix of software versus SaaS, there will be a little bit of variability in how this stuff gets land. The good news is we're adding a ton of new customers in SaaS, which bodes well for the long term. And we had a record absolute record quarter of software land customers with longer durations. So it's -- yes, the number is off a little bit, but it's -- we need to expect a little bit of variability in this over time because this is an annualized thing. Now if you look at overall ARR for the year, we're talking 22% rough tough growth on $167 million year-on-year increase. So it's actually very handsome. I just feel like there will be a little bit of quarter-to-quarter variability because we sell hybrid solutions for customers. And they have the option of being able to deploy it in the manner in which they want. So I guess we could have done a better job explaining that last quarter. It comes back to the term and that stuff, but I'll keep explaining it until we get it right. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ฃจ๋, ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณตํด์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ฏ์ด, ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ์ด ์๋ ๋ณด๋ค ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๋ ์ฌ์ ์ ํน์ฑ์, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์๋น์คํ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ ํ, ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์ฐฉ์ํ๋ ํ๋ก์ ํธ์ ๋ณต์ก์ฑ, ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋๋น SaaS์ ๋น์ค ๋ฑ์ ๊ณ ๋ คํ๋ฉด, ์ค์ ์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ํ๋๋์ง์ ์์ด ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ด ์์ ์๋ฐ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ข์ ์์์ SaaS ๋ถ๋ฌธ์์ ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํ๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์ด๊ณ , ์ด๋ ์ฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ธ์ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ ๊ธด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ง ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๋๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ ๋์ ์ธ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ์ธ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฌ์ฑํ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค, ์์น๊ฐ ์ฝ๊ฐ ๋ฎ์์ง ๊ฑด ๋ง์ง๋ง, ์ด๊ฑด ์ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๋ด์ผ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ ์์ํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ)์ ๋ณด์๋ฉด, ์ ๋ ๋๋น 1์ต 6,700๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ก ์ฝ 22%์ ๊ฒฌ๊ณ ํ ์ฑ์ฅ์ ๊ธฐ๋กํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๋งค์ฐ ํ๋ฅญํ ์ค์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ด ์์ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์๊ฒ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ ํ๋งคํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๋ฐฐํฌํ ์ ์๋ ์ต์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ข ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ํ์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์์ ํ ์ดํดํ์ค ๋๊น์ง ๊ณ์ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. The only other thing I would call out -- the only other thing I would call out, Rudy, to your point, is -- and we've talked about this other ARR, right? Other ARR, the last couple of quarters has been consistent. We actually saw a decline. The decline almost doubled quarter-over-quarter, and that's really tied to some of our conversions. So that was the other piece, just to kind of bring it all together. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ๋ฃจ๋, ๋ง์ํ์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ํ ๊ฐ์ง๋ง ๋ ์ธ๊ธํ์๋ฉด - ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ์ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๊ธฐํ ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ) ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ธฐํ ARR์ ์ง๋ ๋ช ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋์ ์ผ๊ด๋ ์์ค์ ์ ์งํด์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฒ์๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ฐ์๊ฐ ๋ฐ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ฐ์ํญ์ด ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ ๋ฐฐ๋ก ๋์ด๋ฌ๊ณ , ์ด๋ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ผ๋ถ ์ ํ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ธ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Rudy Kessinger: D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division Okay. And then as a follow-up, I'm curious there was some commentary about you sold maybe more SaaS deals and I seem to maybe interpret that as meaning that prohibits you from also selling some term deals. So I guess I'm curious, like in your pipe for the quarter, did you have a lot of customers where reps were working with them on both potential SaaS and term deals and more of the land tilted towards SaaS than term in the quarter? And then -- sorry for a two-parter here. But on your SaaS ARR, what percentage of your SaaS comes from is calculated from consumption in the current quarter times 4 versus TCV over duration. And I'm curious if you were to look at the quarter, your SaaS and the ACV bookings standpoint relative as opposed to ARR, how much stronger might that number have been if you were calculating all of your SaaS ARR as TCV over duration. | **Rudy Kessinger:** ๋ค, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ผ์ด๋ ์ผ์ SaaS์ ํ
๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ๋ชจ๋์ ๋ํ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ์ด ์์๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ต์
๋ชจ๋๋ฅผ ๋
ผ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ต์ข
์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋ง์ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ SaaS ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ๊ธฐ์ธ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์๋ฃจ์
์ ์ ์ฐ์ฑ๊ณผ ํ์ฅ์ฑ์ ์ ํธํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ํ ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ ์์๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋์ง๋ง, SaaS๋ก์ ์ ํ ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์์๋ณด๋ค ๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ๋ด๋น์๋ค์ ๋ ์ต์ ๋ชจ๋๋ฅผ ์ ์ํ์ง๋ง, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ต์ข ๊ฒฐ์ ๋จ๊ณ์์ SaaS๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ง์ด ์ ํํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํด์๋, SaaS ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ) ๊ณ์ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์๋น๋์ 4๋ฐฐ๋ก ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ๊ณผ TCV(์ด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฐ์น)๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ํผํฉ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํํ ๋น์จ์ ๊ณต๊ฐํ๊ธฐ ์ด๋ ต์ง๋ง, ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ SaaS ARR์ ์ค์ ๊ณ์ฝ๋ TCV๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ฐ์ถ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์๋น ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ ๋น์ค์ ์ฐจ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์์ธก ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ ๋์ด๊ธฐ ์ํด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ARR ์ฐ์ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ ํธํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์๋ฉด, ARR ๋๋น SaaS์ ACV ์์ฝ(bookings) ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ์๋ฉด, ๋ง์ฝ ๋ชจ๋ SaaS ARR์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋๋น TCV๋ก ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์์น๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ ๋์์์ง ๊ถ๊ธํ์ค ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ทธ ์ฐจ์ด๋ ์๋นํ ํด ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ํ์ฌ ARR์ ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ(Annual Recurring Revenue)์ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ํ๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ๋ง์ฝ ์ ์ฒด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฐ์น(Total Contract Value, TCV)๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ ํํ๋ค๋ฉด, ํนํ ๋ค๋ ๊ณ์ฝ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ์ด๊ธฐ ์ธ์ ๊ธ์ก์ด ํจ์ฌ ์ปค์ง๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ, ๋ค๋ ๊ณ์ฝ ๋น์ค์ด ๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ TCV ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ค๋ฉด ์ฑ์ฅ๋ฅ ์ด ํ์ฌ ๋ณด๊ณ ๋ ์์น๋ณด๋ค ์๋นํ ๋๊ฒ ๋ํ๋ฌ์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ ํฌ๋ ์ ๊ณ ํ์ค๊ณผ ์ผ๊ด์ฑ์ ์ ์งํ๊ธฐ ์ํด ํ์ฌ์ ARR ๊ณ์ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๊ณ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director That's a tough question. Maybe give us a little time to get the exact number around that. But let me take the first part of your question. But our sales team -- the reason -- the reason we have our go-to-market team, the way it is, is because our platform delivers 2 sets of capabilities. So you can't segment them and say, do this versus that or that versus that. It really depends on where the customer is and how we meet them where they are. So if a customer wants to start with Air Gap Protect and Cleanroom and then move backwards into our on-premise capabilities, that's what we'll do. So the sales team is absolutely aligned to the customer buying model and they're buying capabilities and their needs. So we internally don't trade off 1 license type versus another. That's not ever what we do. It's what the customer needs and how we best align to it. Could you repeat the second part of your question? | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ ํํ ์์น๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์๊ฐ์ ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ต๋ณ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ์์
ํ๊ณผ ์์ฅ ์ง์ถ ์ ๋ต์ ํ์ฌ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ด์ํ๋ ์ด์ ๋ ์ ํฌ ํ๋ซํผ์ด ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ญ๋์ ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ ๋ถ๋ฆฌํด์ ์ด๊ฒ ์๋๋ฉด ์ ๊ฒ, ๋๋ ์ ๊ฒ ์๋๋ฉด ์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ์๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์ด๋ ๋จ๊ณ์ ์๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ํ์ฌ ์์น์์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ง๋๋์ง์ ๋ฌ๋ ค ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ์์ด๊ฐญ ํ๋กํ ํธ(Air Gap Protect)์ ํด๋ฆฐ๋ฃธ(Cleanroom)์ผ๋ก ์์ํ ๋ค์ ์ ํฌ ์จํ๋ ๋ฏธ์ค(on-premise) ์ญ๋์ผ๋ก ๊ฑฐ์ฌ๋ฌ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ํ๋ค๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ์งํํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์์ ํ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๊ตฌ๋งค ๋ชจ๋ธ, ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ๊ตฌ๋งคํ๋ ์ญ๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ๋์ฆ์ ์์ ํ ๋ถํฉํ๋๋ก ์กฐ์ง๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํ ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ์ ํ์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ํ๊ณผ ๋ง๋ฐ๊พธ๋ ์ผ์ ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ํ์๋ก ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ ๋ถํฉํ ์ ์๋์ง๊ฐ ์ค์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ค์ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Rudy Kessinger: D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division The second part of my question is like if I just take your $364 million of SaaS ARR, how much of that is calculated from like Clumio products that are just consumption times 4 versus how much is just TCV over duration, the same way you calculate your term license ARR. Because I'm trying to -- you're talking about the ASPs being much lower and the ARR not necessarily showing up yet from some strong bookings. And so I'm trying to understand how much of your net new SaaS bookings come from products that are going to have ARR calculated on a consumption basis as opposed to TCV over duration. | **Rudy Kessinger:** 3์ต 6,400๋ง ๋ฌ๋ฌ์ SaaS ARR ์ค์์ Clumio ์ ํ์ฒ๋ผ ์๋น๋์ 4๋ฅผ ๊ณฑํด์ ๊ณ์ฐ๋๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ผ์ด์ ์ค ARR์ ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๋์ผํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก TCV๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ์ ๊ณ์ฐํ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ASP๊ฐ ํจ์ฌ ๋ฎ์์ง๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ์ฝ์๋ ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ARR์ด ์์ง ์ ๋๋ก ๋ฐ์๋์ง ์๊ณ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ, ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ์ฝ ์ค์์ ์๋น ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ARR์ด ๊ณ์ฐ๋๋ ์ ํ๊ณผ TCV๋ฅผ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ์ ๊ณ์ฐ๋๋ ์ ํ์ ๋น์ค์ด ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ธ์ง ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So I'm not going to give the exact breakout, Rudy. What I can tell you, though, is it's small, it's immaterial on the whole ARR number. So you're not -- it's not overly meaningful in the percentage. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ์ ํํ ์ธ๋ถ ๋ด์ญ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ ์ด๋ ต์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ท๋ชจ๊ฐ ์๊ณ , ์ ์ฒด ARR ์์น์์ ์ค์ํ์ง ์์ ์์ค์ด๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋น์จ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ํฌ๊ฒ ์๋ฏธ ์๋ ์์ค์ ์๋๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Romanelli with Mizuho Securities. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ฏธ์ฆํธ ์ฆ๊ถ์ ๋ง์ดํด ๋ก๋ง๋ฌ๋ฆฌ ์ ๋๋ฆฌ์คํธ๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Michael Romanelli: Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Yes. So yes, I guess I was just wondering if there are any regions and/or verticals that performed better than your internal expectations this quarter? And maybe conversely or any more challenged than you were anticipating? | **Michael Romanelli:** ๋ค, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ด๋ถ ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ธ ์ง์ญ์ด๋ ์ฐ์ ๋ถ์ผ๊ฐ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฐ๋๋ก ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ด๋ ค์์ ๊ฒช์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director What was the second part, sorry, Michael? | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ๋ฌด์์ด์์ฃ , ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค๋ง, Michael? |
| Michael Romanelli: Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Yes. If any regions or verticals were perhaps more challenged than you were anticipating? | **Michael Romanelli:** ๋ค, ์์๋ณด๋ค ๋ ์ด๋ ค์์ ๊ฒช์ ํน์ ์ง์ญ์ด๋ ์ฐ์ ๋ถ์ผ๊ฐ ์์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Yes, it was -- actually, as a quarter is very evenly distributed and almost by design. So we've -- over time, we've worked to derisk the business in both geography as well as in particular verticals. This quarter was -- our international business did very well as did our U.S. business was very, very even. Our SaaS business did well, our software business did well. So there was no particular call out. I think, overall, a well-delivered quarter from my point of view. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ค, ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ท ํ์๊ฒ ๋ถ์ฐ๋์๊ณ ๊ฑฐ์ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ค๊ณ๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ง์ญ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํน์ ์ ์ข ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ์ฌ์ ๋ฆฌ์คํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ถ์ฐ์ํค๋ ์์ ์ ํด์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ํด์ธ ์ฌ์ ์ด ๋งค์ฐ ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ฌ์ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๊ณ ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ํ์ต๋๋ค. SaaS ์ฌ์ ๋ ์ข์๊ณ , ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ฌ์ ๋ ์ข์ ์ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์์ต๋๋ค. ํน๋ณํ ๊ฐ์กฐํ ๋งํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ด์ ์์๋ ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์คํ๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Michael Romanelli: Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe just building on a prior question, I apologize if I missed it, but you guys have obviously noted that you expect SaaS to comprise about 60% of total net new ARR for the fiscal year. Just how should we be thinking about that mix shift for the 4Q? | **Michael Romanelli:** ๋ค, ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์์ด ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ์ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์, ์ ๊ฐ ๋์ณค๋ค๋ฉด ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค๋ง, ํ์ฌ์์ SaaS๊ฐ ์ฌ ํ๊ณ์ฐ๋ ์ ์ฒด ์ ๊ท ARR์ ์ฝ 60%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์งํ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์์ํ์ ๋ค๊ณ ๋ช ํํ ๋ฐํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. 4๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ ๋งํ์๋ฉด ๋ ๊น์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. I would -- even this quarter, we talked about this. I think Rudy called this out right. From a SaaS perspective, we're still about 60%. So I think that 60% baseline is the right way to think about it. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋๋ฐ์. Rudy๊ฐ ์ ํํ ์ง์ด์ค ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. SaaS ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ฌ์ ํ ์ฝ 60% ์์ค์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด 60%๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํ์๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ ์ ํ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tom Blakey with Cantor. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Cantor์ Tom Blakey๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Thomas Blakey: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division Just a couple quick ones. On this duration topic, Danielle, what is the -- I guess, just bluntly, what is the expectation for duration in the guide for fiscal 4Q? | **Thomas Blakey:** ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๊ฐ๋จํ ์ง๋ฌธ ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋์, 4๋ถ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ(duration)์ ๋ํ ์์์น๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋๋์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So we're continuing to assume that duration remains specifically, and Sanjay called this out in his earlier remarks, median duration will remain in a normal range. So that's what we're assuming in our guide. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํนํ Sanjay๊ฐ ์์ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ฏ์ด, ์ค๊ฐ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ(median duration)์ ์ ์ ๋ฒ์ ๋ด์ ๋จธ๋ฌผ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ์ ํฌ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค์ ๋ฐ์๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Thomas Blakey: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division So basically, just quarter-on-quarter a downtick in duration, so to speak. And then -- go ahead. | **Thomas Blakey:** ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋๋น ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ฝ๊ฐ ์ค์ด๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ -- ๋ง์ํ์ธ์. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: No, no. Yes, I would say, again, that the duration median will remain the same. And the guide is neither aggressive nor conservative, right? We wanted to give you where we feel like we can meet. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ์๋์, ์๋๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๋๋ ์ด์ ์ค์๊ฐ์ ๋์ผํ๊ฒ ์ ์ง๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด๋์ค๋ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง๋ ๋ณด์์ ์ด์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฌ์ฑํ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋ ์์ค์ ์ ์ํด ๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director And frankly, we're getting better at this as customers deploy more complex scenarios, we have to internally be spending a lot of time really finessing how we look at this. And we'll be completely transparent about that. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์์งํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ๋ณต์กํ ์๋๋ฆฌ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐํฌํจ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ์ ์ ๋ ๋์์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ฅผ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณผ ๊ฒ์ธ์ง ์ ๊ตํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ฌ๋ ๋ฐ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํฌ์ํด์ผ ํ๋ ์ํฉ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์์ ํ ํฌ๋ช ํ๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ฐํ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Thomas Blakey: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division No, you have always, Sanjay. I just said duration was an impact ARR this quarter. So I was just trying to understand. | **Thomas Blakey:** ์๋์, ํญ์ ๊ทธ๋์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ์ ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ARR์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋ค๋ ๊ฒ๋ฟ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director I know because it's a tale of 2 cities, right? Here, we get larger duration more land deals and it affects the other side. So -- and then we got a lot of new SaaS deals and smaller duration. And so the -- a little bit of a variability is to be expected, we're getting better. I hope at being able to tell you what that is. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ํฉ์ด ๊ณต์กดํ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ํ์ชฝ์์๋ ๋ ํฐ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ํ ์ง ๊ฑฐ๋๋ค์ด ์ฑ์ฌ๋๋ฉด์ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ชฝ์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋์์ ๋ง์ ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ์ฝ๋ค์ด ์ฒด๊ฒฐ๋๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ, ์ด๋ค์ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ๋ ์งง์ต๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋์ ๋ณ๋์ฑ์ ์์ ๊ฐ๋ฅํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๋ฌํ ์ํฉ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๊ป ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ค๋ช ๋๋ฆด ์ ์๋๋ก ๊ฐ์ ํด ๋๊ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Thomas Blakey: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division Yes. And this goes hand in hand with the complexity and the expanding kind of sales motion that you guys are going to market with in terms of adding cyber resiliency the last year or so -- a year or 2, Sanjay. So maybe if you could talk about these increasing hybrid deals, the sales cycles, maybe talk about on a like-for-like basis, where a sales cycle is going this last fiscal quarter maybe going forward in your mind, are they expanding? And maybe if you could touch on discounting for everybody on the call. Is there an element of discounting just to address that topic with the extended durations. And that's it for me. | **Thomas Blakey:** ๋ค, ์ด๋ ์ง๋ 1~2๋ ๊ฐ ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ์ ์ถ๊ฐํ๋ ๋ฑ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์์ฅ์ ๋ด๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ ์ ๋ ๋ณต์กํด์ง๊ณ ํ์ฅ๋๋ ์์ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ ๋ฐ์ ํ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฆ๊ฐํ๊ณ ์๋ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋๊ณผ ์์ ์ฌ์ดํด์ ๋ํด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? ๋์ผ ์กฐ๊ฑด ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ง๋ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์์ ์ฌ์ดํด์ด ์ด๋ ๋์ง, ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๋์ง, ์ฌ์ดํด์ด ๊ธธ์ด์ง๊ณ ์๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ธฐ ๋ฐ๋๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํตํ์ ์ฐธ์ฌํ์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ํด ํ ์ธ์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ธ๊ธํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ด ๊ธธ์ด์ง๋ ๊ฒ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ํ ์ธ ์์๊ฐ ์๋์ง ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ ๋ฅผ ๋ค๋ค์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๊น์ง์ ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director No worries. So hybrid deals, if you start on the software side, if you look at large enterprise customers, and they have technology that goes back sort of legacy technology. The process of getting that conversation going where it becomes a combination now in resilience terms of really looking at data security of all data types, looking at Identity Resilience and then attaching that to world-class recovery, that becomes a fairly sophisticated conversation and that takes time. And when we get into it, then you realize that some of the workloads, they want to start the cloud. They want to keep on-premise. They want -- they have a timeline under which to move it to the cloud. So then you start working through that. And we've gotten good at it because we've been doing this now -- the cyber resilience conversation, security conversation for a couple of years. We think the new platform and the bringing together of the capabilities under 1 pane of glass will just allow customers, especially with our discovery capabilities, to quickly get up and understand what they have and what is protected, what isn't at what level, what policy. So I think the new platform in time will help shrink our ability and the customer's decision points, I think, to do things. Now the sales force is taking this to market comprehensively, okay. If we try not to go and talk about workloads because that's not a resilient solution. Resilience in my simple way of thinking about it is only as good as the entirety of the workload that you protect. And so that's kind of how we look at it. These deals, when you start can -- it's a very sophisticated sales process, and it's a -- and you have to -- the customers are open to it, cyber threats aren't going down. AI, in a good way, generates more data and that data needs to be protected, and we're good at that, okay? So that's kind of how we think about it. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋์ ๋ํด ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ๋จผ์ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ํ ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ณด์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ํ๋ฅผ ์์ํ๋ ๊ณผ์ ์์, ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฆฌ์ธ์ค(resilience) ๊ด์ ์์ ๋ชจ๋ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ์ ํ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ ๋ณด์์ ์ดํด๋ณด๊ณ , ์์ด๋ดํฐํฐ ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ฆฌ์ธ์ค(Identity Resilience)๋ฅผ ๊ฒํ ํ ๋ค์, ์ด๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ณ ์ต๊ณ ์์ค์ ๋ณต๊ตฌ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ๊ณผ ๊ฒฐํฉํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๋
ผ์๊ฐ ์งํ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ ์๋นํ ๋ณต์กํ ๋ํ๊ฐ ๋๋ฉฐ ์๊ฐ์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ์ค์ ๋ก ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ ๋ ผ์ํ๋ค ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ผ๋ถ ์ํฌ๋ก๋๋ ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋์์ ์์ํ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ํ๊ณ , ์ผ๋ถ๋ ์จํ๋ ๋ฏธ์ค(on-premise)๋ก ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์ถ์ด ํ๋ฉฐ, ํด๋ผ์ฐ๋๋ก ์ด์ ํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์์ฒด ํ์๋ผ์ธ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ค์ ํจ๊ป ํ์ด๋๊ฐ๊ธฐ ์์ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด์ ์ด ๋ถ์ผ์ ๋ฅ์ํด์ก์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๋ณด์์ ๋ํ ๋ ผ์๋ฅผ ๋ช ๋ ๊ฐ ์งํํด์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ ๋จ์ผ ์ฐฝ(single pane of glass)์ผ๋ก ํตํฉ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ๋ค์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค, ํนํ ์ ํฌ ๊ฒ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ํ์ฉํ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์์ ๋ค์ด ๋ณด์ ํ ์์ฐ๊ณผ ๋ณดํธ ํํฉ, ๋ฏธ๋ณดํธ ์์ญ, ๋ณดํธ ์์ค, ์ ์ฑ ๋ฑ์ ์ ์ํ๊ฒ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์ดํดํ ์ ์๊ฒ ํด์ค ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์๋ก์ด ํ๋ซํผ์ด ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ์ ํฌ์ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์์ฌ๊ฒฐ์ ์์ ์ ๋จ์ถ์ํค๋ ๋ฐ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์์ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ด๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ด์ ์ผ๋ก ์์ฅ์ ์ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๋ ์ํฌ๋ก๋๋ง ๋ฐ๋ก ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ์ง ์์ผ๋ ค๊ณ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ ์๋ ์๋ฃจ์ ์ด ์๋๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(Resilience)์ด๋ ๋ณดํธํ๋ ์ ์ฒด ์ํฌ๋ก๋๋งํผ๋ง ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ณด๋ ๊ด์ ์ ๋๋ค. ์ด๋ฐ ๋๋ค์ ์์ํ ๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ ๊ตํ ์์ ํ๋ก์ธ์ค๊ฐ ํ์ํ๊ณ , ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ ์ด์ ๋ํด ์ด๋ฆฐ ์์ธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ์ด๋ฒ ์ํ์ ์ค์ด๋ค์ง ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. AI๋ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์์ ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ์์ฑํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ ๋ณดํธ๋์ด์ผ ํ๋๋ฐ, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ ์ ํฌ์ ์๊ฐ์ ๋๋ค. |
| Thomas Blakey: Cantor Fitzgerald & Co., Research Division You saw that, Sanjay -- sorry, as a follow-up to that. Sorry, I thought I was done there, but you saw that in your net new term record additions. Again, I just wanted to just triple click on -- is this maybe -- in addition to all these records and solid results, is there an element of pipeline building related to this possibly a sales elongation going on. | **Thomas Blakey:** ์บํฐ ํผ์ธ ์ ๋ด๋, ๋ฆฌ์์น ๋ถ๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ ์ด, ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ณด์ จ์ ํ ๋ฐ์ -- ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค, ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ๋๋ฌ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋๋ฐ์. ์์ ๊ท ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ์ฝ ์ถ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ก์์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ณด์ จ์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค์ ํ ๋ฒ ํ์คํ ์ง๊ณ ๋์ด๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์ -- ์ด๋ฌํ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ค๊ณผ ๊ฒฌ์กฐํ ์ค์ ์ธ์๋, ํน์ ํ์ดํ๋ผ์ธ ๊ตฌ์ถ๊ณผ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ์์๊ฐ ์๋ ๊ฑด์ง, ๋๋ ์์ ์ฌ์ดํด์ด ๊ธธ์ด์ง๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฑด ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director No. So I was going to -- I think that, firstly, you said discounting earlier in your earlier part of your question, there is no -- we keep a very tight control on that. Our Chief Commercial Officer was our Chief Financial Officer. So there's a very high degree of discipline that goes into discounting inside of our company. So that I don't worry about day in and day out. That's not my concern at all. The sales cycle, we believe, and it's early days. So we can talk about it over the quarters to come. We believe that our Commvault Cloud Unity platform will reduce the time it takes for customers to understand resilience the way we designed it and get up and running with us faster. And then we also released a framework for them to sort of look at to operationalize it, we call that ResOps. We released that -- we announced that in tandem with the platform. And the collective capabilities in there, we think, will allow our team, our partners and our customers prospects in this case, to truly understand how fast they can get up and running with true resilience. So I'm very hopeful about where the platform is. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์๋์, ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ ค๋ ๊ฒ์, ๋จผ์ ์ง๋ฌธ ์ด๋ฐ๋ถ์ ํ ์ธ์ ๋ํด ์ธ๊ธํ์
จ๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ ํ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋งค์ฐ ์๊ฒฉํ๊ฒ ํต์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ต๊ณ ์์
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์์(Chief Financial Officer)์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ํ์ฌ ๋ด๋ถ์ ํ ์ธ ์ ์ฑ
์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ๋์ ์์ค์ ๊ท์จ์ด ์ ์ฉ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ ๊ฐ ๋งค์ผ ๊ฑฑ์ ํ๋ ์ฌ์์ด ์๋๋๋ค. ์ ํ ์ฐ๋ คํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ ์ฌ์ดํด์ ๋ํด์๋, ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ด๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ผ๋ก ๋ถ๊ธฐ๋ณ๋ก ๊ณ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ Commvault Cloud Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ค๊ณํ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(resilience)์ ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์ ํจ๊ป ๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์์ํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ๋ ๋ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๋จ์ถ์ํฌ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ๋ํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์ด์ํํ ์ ์๋๋ก ํ๋ ์์ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋๋ฐ, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ด๊ฒ์ ResOps๋ผ๊ณ ๋ถ๋ฆ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ซํผ๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ๋ฐํํ๊ณ ์. ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ํฌํจ๋ ํตํฉ ์ญ๋๋ค์ ํตํด ์ ํฌ ํ, ํํธ๋์ฌ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ์ฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ง์ ํ ๋ณต์๋ ฅ(resilience)์ ๊ฐ์ถ ์์คํ ์ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๊ณ ์ด์ํ ์ ์๋์ง ๋ช ํํ๊ฒ ์ดํดํ ์ ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ๋ด ๋๋ค. ํ๋ซํผ์ ํฅํ ์ ๋ง์ ๋ํด ๋งค์ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari with Baird. | **Operator:** ๋ค์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ Baird์ Shrenik Kothari๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ค์ด์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Shrenik Kothari: Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division So Danielle, you noted, of course, strong new SaaS customers this quarter, but that these dollars, of course, haven't flowed into NRR yet. Can you just clarify -- and I believe Sanjay was getting to that in terms of the lag effect. Is it purely a function of like how you recognize your SaaS ARR sort of ramping off actual usage, consumption versus potentially some of the peers who use and kind of use that linearity around duration and TCV. So that's part one, and I had a follow-up on Unity. | **Shrenik Kothari:** ๋ค, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๊ท SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์์ง๋ง, ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ธ์ก์ด ์์ง NRR(์์์ต์ ์ง์จ)์ ๋ฐ์๋์ง ์์๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ํ์ จ๋๋ฐ์. ๋ช ํํ ํด์ฃผ์ค ์ ์์๊น์? Sanjay๊ฐ ์ธ๊ธํ๋ ์ง์ฐ ํจ๊ณผ์ ๊ด๋ จํด์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒ ์์ ํ SaaS ARR(์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ณต ๋งค์ถ)์ ์ธ์ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์, ์ฆ ์ค์ ์ฌ์ฉ๋๊ณผ ์๋น๋์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ ์ง์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฆ๊ฐ์ํค๋ ๋ฐฉ์ ๋๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ์? ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝ์์ฌ๋ค์ด ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ TCV(์ด ๊ณ์ฝ ๊ฐ์น)๋ฅผ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ํ ์ ํ์ ๋ฐฉ์๊ณผ๋ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ฒ์. ์ด๊ฒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒ์งธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด๊ณ ์, Unity ๊ด๋ จํด์ ์ถ๊ฐ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: Yes. So I just want to make sure I understand because I think you're asking 2 different things. So you mentioned SaaS NRR, right? And I had made the comment, one of the things we saw is we had a really strong SaaS new customer quarter. And so obviously, the way that we calculate NRR is we take that same customer cohort from last year and look at where they are this year. So any new customers would not be considered in that calculation. Does that help answer your question? I think that's what you're getting at, but if I'm missing it, let me know. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค, ์ ๊ฐ ์ ๋๋ก ์ดํดํ๊ณ ์๋์ง ํ์ธํ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์, ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ํ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. SaaS NRR์ ์ธ๊ธํ์ จ์ฃ ? ์ ๊ฐ ๋ง์๋๋ ธ๋ ๊ฒ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ, ์ด๋ฒ ๋ถ๊ธฐ์ SaaS ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด๊ฐ ์ ๋ง ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๋ค๋ ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์๋ค์ํผ NRR ๊ณ์ฐ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์๋ ์ ๋์ผํ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฝํธํธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ์์ ์ฌํด ๊ทธ๋ค์ด ์ด๋์ ์๋์ง๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ๊ทธ ๊ณ์ฐ์ ํฌํจ๋์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ต๋ณ์ด ๋์๋์? ๊ทธ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ง์ํ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ, ์ ๊ฐ ๋์น ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์์ผ๋ฉด ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ธ์. |
| Shrenik Kothari: Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division No, that was it, thanks. | **Shrenik Kothari:** Since this is just a brief acknowledgment ("No, that was it, thanks"), here's the natural Korean translation: ์๋์, ๊ทธ๊ฒ ์ ๋ถ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director It's all future value -- future value -- lifetime value of the customer. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ๋ชจ๋ ๋ฏธ๋ ๊ฐ์น์ ๋๋ค. ๋ฏธ๋ ๊ฐ์น, ์ฆ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์น(lifetime value)๋ฅผ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. |
| Shrenik Kothari: Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division Yes. Got it. And then Sanjay, my follow-up then is -- of course, you have the SaaS ARR recognition due to this kind of ramps and I was just curious would -- in that case, kind of a SaaS ACV bookings offer like a much cleaner, better lens into your [indiscernible]. I think you were getting to that and with Unity gaining traction, should help improve your overall TCV and ARR dynamics. Just curious -- and also your net new ARR comes from SaaS. Just has there been any internal discussion around looking at some of those metrics, kind of ACV or backlog RPO, yes? | **Shrenik Kothari:** ๋ค, ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ Sanjay, ํ์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ - ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๋ฌํ ๋จํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ์ธํ SaaS ARR ์ธ์ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ์๋๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด SaaS ACV ๊ณ์ฝ์ก(bookings)์ด ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ช ํํ๊ณ ๋์ ๊ด์ ์ ์ ๊ณตํ์ง ์์๊น์? ์ ์๊ฐ์๋ ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ณ , Unity๊ฐ ๊ฒฌ์ธ๋ ฅ์ ์ป์ผ๋ฉด์ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ธ TCV์ ARR ์ญํ ๊ฐ์ ์ ๋์์ด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ ๊ท ARR์ด SaaS์์ ๋์ค๋ ์ ๋ ์๊ณ ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ๊ถ๊ธํ ๊ฒ, ๋ด๋ถ์ ์ผ๋ก ACV๋ ๋ฐฑ๋ก๊ทธ, RPO ๊ฐ์ ์งํ๋ค์ ๊ฒํ ํ๋ ๋ ผ์๊ฐ ์์๋์ง์? |
| Danielle Abrahamsen: So this is Danielle again. So I just want to make sure it's clear, right? So we do have some consumption and some utility. It's a small portion of our ARR. Most of our ARR is tied to what I'll say is true subscription SaaS customers in that they buy a fixed amount for 1 year, and then that amount is annualized. So I don't know if there's -- I hope that answers your question. | **Danielle Abrahamsen:** ๋ค์ ๋ค๋์์ ๋๋ค. ๋ช ํํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์๋ฐ์, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ผ๋ถ ์๋น ๊ธฐ๋ฐ๊ณผ ์ ํธ๋ฆฌํฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ๋งค์ถ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด๋ ARR์ ์์ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ถ๊ณผํฉ๋๋ค. ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ARR์ ์ง์ ํ ์๋ฏธ์ ๊ตฌ๋ ํ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ๋์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฆ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด 1๋ ๋จ์๋ก ๊ณ ์ ๋ ๊ธ์ก์ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๊ธ์ก์ด ์ฐ๊ฐํ๋๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋๋ค. ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํ ๋ต๋ณ์ด ๋์๋์ง ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ค์. |
| Operator: Your last question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui with Truist. | **Operator:** ๋ง์ง๋ง ์ง๋ฌธ์ Truist์ Junaid Siddiqui๋ก๋ถํฐ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. |
| Junaid Siddiqui: Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division I just wanted to ask about Satori, Sanjay. I know it's in early days, but could you just discuss how Satori is influencing customer adoption and deal sizes in these ransomware driven valuations? And what specific capabilities within Satori are proving most differentiating in these competitive wins? And how do you think about its contribution to growth over the next, let's say, 12 to 18 months? | **Junaid Siddiqui:** Satori์ ๋ํด ์ง๋ฌธ๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ธ ๊ฒ์ ์๊ณ ์์ง๋ง, ๋์ฌ์จ์ด๋ก ์ธํ ํ๊ฐ ์ํฉ์์ Satori๊ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ฑํ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ท๋ชจ์ ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์น๊ณ ์๋์ง ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ฒฝ์์์ ์น๋ฆฌํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ด Satori ๋ด์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ฐจ๋ณํ๋๋ ํน์ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ๋ฌด์์ ๋๊น? ํฅํ 12๊ฐ์์์ 18๊ฐ์ ๋์ ์ฑ์ฅ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋์ ๋ํด์๋ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ์ญ๋๊น? |
| Sanjay Mirchandani: President, CEO & Director Okay. Sounds good. So where we are with Satori is -- we are in the throes of integrating the product into our platform. And when we acquired Satori, we were, I think, very clear that this would not be a stand-alone capability, but the value -- the true value of Satori was giving our customers the ability to inspect and look at their data, structured, unstructured, and really have a policy-related compliance capability. So that was the premise. That work, we are in the throes of incorporating into the platform. Our belief is the customers need that capability as part of the platform, unlike some others in the business. Because stand-alone, it's another integration point. And with us, it's a feature you just turn on and then you are protected and you're looking at the compliance requirements and policies across the board. So it's an implicit part of the platform, okay? We believe that the value comes for customers being better protected out of the box without having to do more in-field integrations with third-party products. And we think that's going to raise the value. And it is already raising the value and conversations that we're having. So it's early days, but kind of where we expected it to be. | **Sanjay Mirchandani:** ์ข์ต๋๋ค. Satori์ ํ์ฌ ์ํฉ์ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ ํฌ๋ ์ง๊ธ ์ด ์ ํ์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํฉํ๋ ์์
์ ์งํ ์ค์
๋๋ค. Satori๋ฅผ ์ธ์ํ ๋น์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ถ๋ช
ํ ๋ฐํ๋ ๊ฒ์, ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋
๋ฆฝํ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด ์๋๋ผ๋ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. Satori์ ์ง์ ํ ๊ฐ์น๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ ํ, ๋น์ ํ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ์ฌํ๊ณ ์ดํด๋ณผ ์ ์๋ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ์ฑ
๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ์ปดํ๋ผ์ด์ธ์ค ์ญ๋์ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ ๋ฐ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ์ด๋ฌํ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ํตํฉํ๋ ์์ ์ ์งํํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฏฟ๋ ๋ฐ๋, ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ ์ฒด๋ค๊ณผ ๋ฌ๋ฆฌ, ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ํ๋ซํผ์ ์ผ๋ถ๋ก์ ํ์๋ก ํ๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๋ ๋ฆฝํ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ํ๋ฉด ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํตํฉ ์ง์ ์ด ์๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ํ๋ซํผ์์๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ์ผ๊ธฐ๋ง ํ๋ฉด ๋ณดํธ๊ฐ ๋๊ณ , ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ์ปดํ๋ผ์ด์ธ์ค ์๊ตฌ์ฌํญ๊ณผ ์ ์ฑ ๋ค์ ํ์ธํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ซํผ์ ๋ด์ฌ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ ํฌ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ์๋ํํฐ ์ ํ๊ณผ ์ถ๊ฐ์ ์ธ ํ์ฅ ํตํฉ ์์ ์ ํ์ง ์์๋ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ๋์ ๋ณดํธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋ค๋ ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์น๊ฐ ๋์จ๋ค๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ์ด ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ๋์ผ ๊ฒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ ์. ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณผ์ ๋ํ์์ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ์น๊ฐ ์์นํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์์ง ์ด๊ธฐ ๋จ๊ณ์ด๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง, ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ํ๋ ์์ค์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. |
| Operator: All right. There are no questions at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference call for today. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day. | **Operator:** ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ ์ด์ ์ง๋ฌธ์ด ์์ผ์๋ค์. ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, ์ค๋ ์ปจํผ๋ฐ์ค ์ฝ์ ๋ง์น๋๋ก ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐธ์ํด ์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์ข ๋ฃํ์ ๋ ๋ฉ๋๋ค. ๋ชจ๋ ์ข์ ํ๋ฃจ ๋ณด๋ด์ธ์. |
# Commvault Q3 FY2025 ์ค์ ๋ฐํ ์์ฝ
## ํต์ฌ ๋ด์ฉ
โข **ARR ์ฑ์ฅ ๋ํ ๋ฐ ๊ตฌ์ฑ ๋ณํ**: 3๋ถ๊ธฐ ์์ฆ ARR์ $39M(๋ถ๋ณํ์จ ๊ธฐ์ค)์ผ๋ก ๊ฒฝ์์ง ์์์น $45M์ ํํ. ์ฃผ์ ์์ธ์ โ SaaS ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋น์ค ํ๋(์์ฆ ARR์ 70%, ์ ๋ถ๊ธฐ 61%)๋ก ์ธํ ๋ฎ์ ASP ํจ๊ณผ, โก๋ํ ์ํํธ์จ์ด ๊ณ์ฝ์ ์ฅ๊ธฐ ๊ณ์ฝ ์ฒด๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ธํ ARR ํฌ์ ํจ๊ณผ. SaaS NRR์ 4%p ํ๋ฝํ์ผ๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ดํ ์ฆ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์๋ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ํ๋(9,000+ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ)์ ์ ํ ๋ฏน์ค ๋ณํ์ ๊ธฐ์ธ.
โข **์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ํ๋ณด ๊ฐ์ธ**: ์ํํธ์จ์ด ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ์ต๋ ์ค์ ๋ฌ์ฑ, SaaS ์ ๊ท ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ญ๋ 2์ ๊ธฐ๋ก. 60% ์ด์์ ๊ฑฐ๋๊ฐ ๋ถ๊ธฐ ๋ง 3์ฃผ ๋ด ์ฒด๊ฒฐ๋์ด ๋งค์ถ ์ธ์ ํ์ด๋ฐ๊ณผ ํ๊ธํ๋ฆ์ ์ํฅ. ์ํฐํ๋ผ์ด์ฆ SaaS ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ฝ 50%๊ฐ ๋ณต์ ์ ํ ์ฌ์ฉ ์ค(์ ๋
๋๋น 8~9%p ์ฆ๊ฐ)์ผ๋ก ํ๋ซํผ ๊ต์ฐจํ๋งค ํจ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ํ.
โข **Unity ํ๋ซํผ ์ถ์ ๋ฐ ์ ๋ต์ ๋ฐฉํฅ**: 11์ ๋ฐํ๋ Unity ํ๋ซํผ์ ํ์ด๋ธ๋ฆฌ๋/๋ฉํฐํด๋ผ์ฐ๋ ํ๊ฒฝ์์ ๋ฐ์ด