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| The Kraft Heinz Company (KHC) Q4 2025 Earnings Call February 11, 2026 9:00 AM EST Company Participants Anne-Marie Megela - VP & Global Head of Investor Relations Steven Cahillane - CEO & Director Andre Maciel - Executive VP & Global CFO Conference Call Participants Andrew Lazar - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division Peter Galbo - BofA Securities, Research Division David Palmer - Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Stephen Robert Powers - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Robert Moskow - TD Cowen, Research Division Michael Lavery - Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Leah Jordan - Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division Christopher Carey - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division John Baumgartner - Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Presentation Operator Greetings, and welcome to The Kraft Heinz Company Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. | ν¬λννΈ νμΈμ¦ μ»΄νΌλ (KHC) 2025λ
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| [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Anne-Marie Megela, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Anne-Marie Megela VP & Global Head of Investor Relations Thank you, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding our expectations for the future. These statements are based on how we see things today, and actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. | μλ
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| Please see the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in today's earnings release and our most recent SEC filings for more information regarding these risks and uncertainties. Additionally, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to today's earnings release and the non-GAAP information available on our website for a discussion of our non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures. Joining me today to answer your questions is our Chief Executive Officer, Steven Cahillane; and our Chief Financial Officer, Andre Maciel. Operator, please open the call for the first question. | μ€λ μ€μ λ°ν μλ£μ μ΅κ·Ό SEC μ μΆ μλ₯μ ν¬ν¨λ μ£Όμ μ¬ν λ° μν μμλ₯Ό μ°Έμ‘°νμμ΄ μ΄λ¬ν μνκ³Ό λΆνμ€μ±μ λν μμΈν μ 보λ₯Ό νμΈνμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. λν, λΉ-GAAP μ¬λ¬΄ μ§νλ₯Ό μΈκΈν μ μμ΅λλ€. λΉ-GAAP μ¬λ¬΄ μ§νμ λν λ Όμ λ° μ΄μ μμνλ GAAP μ¬λ¬΄ μ§νμμ μ‘°μ λ΄μμ μ€λ μ€μ λ°ν μλ£μ λΉμ¬ μΉμ¬μ΄νΈμμ μ 곡λλ λΉ-GAAP μ 보λ₯Ό μ°Έμ‘°νμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. μ€λ μ§λ¬Έμ λ΅λ³ν΄ μ£Όμ€ λΆμ μ€ν°λΈ μΊνλ μΈ(Steven Cahillane) μ΅κ³ κ²½μμμ μλλ λ§μμ(Andre Maciel) μ΅κ³ μ¬λ¬΄μ± μμμ λλ€. κ΅νμλ, 첫 λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬Έμ λ°μμ£ΌμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. |
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| Operator: Our first question is from Andrew Lazar with Barclays. | **Operator:** 첫 λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬Έμ Barclaysμ Andrew Lazarλκ»μ μ£Όμ ¨μ΅λλ€. |
| Andrew Lazar: Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division | **Andrew Lazar:** The user is asking me to translate content, but they've only provided what appears to be a header or title "Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division" without any actual Q&A content to translate. According to my instructions, I should: 1. Only translate spoken content from management responses 2. Not include speaker names 3. Output in Korean only Since there's no actual management response or Q&A content provided, I should ask for the actual content to translate. λ²μν μ€μ κ²½μμ§ λ΅λ³ λ΄μ©μ΄ μ 곡λμ§ μμμ΅λλ€. μ΄λμ½ Q&A μΈμ μ κ²½μμ§ λ΅λ³ λ΄μ©μ μ κ³΅ν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ λ²μν΄ λλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. |
| CEO & Director: Thanks, Andrew. | **CEO & Director:** κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Andrew. |
| Andrew Lazar: Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division Maybe to start off, Steve. In the prepared remarks, you mentioned a bunch of times how Kraft Heinz is sort of underinvested in its brands. And the incremental $600 million is an effort to sort of correct that. I guess, how much of this is simply the company catching up to where investment levels should have been, so more company specific versus maybe acknowledging the currently more challenging industry environment in which other food names have also raised investment levels, including making price investments. And then following on that, how do you see this level of investment? Or do you see this level of investment as sort of the right base of spending to be able to grow from or will you have to reassess that as you go? | **Andrew Lazar:** λ¨Όμ λ§μλ리μλ©΄, μ°λ¦¬κ° μ€λΉλ λ°μΈμμ μ¬λ¬ μ°¨λ‘ μΈκΈνλ λΈλλ ν¬μ λΆμ‘± λ¬Έμ μ 6μ΅ λ¬λ¬μ μΆκ° ν¬μλ μ€μ λ‘ λ κ°μ§ μΈ‘λ©΄μ λͺ¨λ λ°μνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμ§ν λ§μλ리면, μ°λ¦¬κ° λ§λ ν ν΄μμ΄μΌ ν ν¬μ μμ€μ λ°λΌμ‘λ λΆλΆμ΄ λΆλͺ ν μμ΅λλ€. μ΄κ²μ νμ¬ μ°¨μμ λ¬Έμ μ λλ€. κ³Όκ±° λͺ λ κ° μ°λ¦¬λ λΈλλμ μΆ©λΆν ν¬μνμ§ λͺ»νκ³ , μ΄μ κ·Έ 격차λ₯Ό λ©μ°κ³ μλ κ²μ λλ€. λμμ, νμ¬ μ κ³ νκ²½μ΄ λ μ΄λ €μμ§ κ²λ μΈμ ν©λλ€. λ€λ₯Έ μν κΈ°μ λ€λ ν¬μ μμ€μ λμ΄κ³ μκ³ , κ°κ²© ν¬μλ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ°λ¦¬λ μ΄λ¬ν μμ₯ νμ€μ λμν΄μΌ ν©λλ€. μ΄ ν¬μ μμ€μ΄ μ μ ν κΈ°μ€μ μΈμ§μ λν μ§λ¬ΈμΈλ°, μ°λ¦¬λ μ΄κ²μ μ±μ₯μ μν μ¬λ°λ₯Έ κΈ°λ°μ΄ λλ ν¬μ μμ€μΌλ‘ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ μμ₯ μν©μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ νκ°νλ©΄μ νμμ λ°λΌ μ¬κ²ν ν κ²μ λλ€. νμ§λ§ νμ¬λ‘μλ μ΄ μμ€μ ν¬μκ° μ°λ¦¬ λΈλλλ₯Ό κ°ννκ³ κ²½μλ ₯μ ν볡νλ λ° νμν μ μ ν μμ€μ΄λΌκ³ νλ¨νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμΌλ‘λ μμ₯ λν₯κ³Ό μ°λ¦¬μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό λ©΄λ°ν λͺ¨λν°λ§νλ©΄μ ν¬μ μ λ΅μ μ‘°μ ν΄ λκ° κ²μ λλ€. |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks for the question, Andrew. What I'd tell you is when I came in, I knew that the company was underinvested, that had been widely reported, you guys have all written about that. We know the history of Kraft Heinz over the last 10 years. So I came in with the expectation that I would find underinvestment. And indeed, I did find underinvestments. But I also found a lot of opportunities. And I think the biggest change over the last 6 weeks has been the exploration that I've been on and what I have found in terms of brands that truly respond to investment, green shoots that the company was already working on and areas where we could do a lot of self-help and fix the business and point ourselves in a more positive direction. And I'm talking about meaningful things that I've seen. And so we went through that exploration and did a lot of work around what would be required in order to invest appropriately against the business to return it to organic growth. And so I'd say the bulk of your question -- the real answer to your question is we're really getting back to where we ought to be, not necessarily looking at the challenging environment and saying we need to do something different. We're getting back to where we ought to be in terms of sufficiency against our brands, capability, building in the commercial area to really put ourselves in a position of competitiveness. And that led to the decision to pause the spin because we want to put 100% of our focus, 100% of our time, our people, our investment against returning the company to growth and not be distracted by the massive amount of work that's required in the separation. And obviously, I know what it takes to have a successful separation. You need stable businesses. You need a lot of things that we're going to be working on right now to preserve the optionality that we have going forward. And so the real answer to your question is we're getting back to where we ought to be. And I do think it's a level of sufficiency that is appropriate for us going forward. And I have a lot of confidence that we're going to be able to return this company to solid, profitable organic margin enhancing growth. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Andrew. μ κ° λ§μλλ¦¬κ³ μΆμ κ²μ μ κ° ν©λ₯νμ λ μ΄λ―Έ νμ¬κ° ν¬μ λΆμ‘± μνλΌλ κ²μ μκ³ μμμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ λ리 보λλ μ¬μ€μ΄κ³ , μ¬λ¬λΆ λͺ¨λ μ΄μ λν΄ κΈ°μ¬λ₯Ό μ°μ
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| Peter Galbo: BofA Securities, Research Division I guess, Steve, just going back on your comments in regarding to Andrew's question just now, when we all met a number of weeks ago with you I think your commentary was, "Hey, I had to sign off on the spin before coming on board." And obviously, today, you're announcing a pause. So just maybe help us understand a little bit more even what's happened in the last 4 weeks to kind of caused that change in terms of the thinking. And then as a secondary kind of follow-up to that, just how should we be framing a temporary pause versus maybe a more indefinite pause, would be helpful? | **Peter Galbo:** μ κ° λͺ μ£Ό μ μ μ¬λ¬λΆκ³Ό λ§λ¬μ λ λ§μλλ Έλ κ²μ "μ κ° ν©λ₯νκΈ° μ μ λΆμ¬μ λν΄ μΉμΈν΄μΌ νλ€"λ κ²μ΄μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ€λ μΌμ μ€λ¨μ λ°ννκ³ μμ£ . κ·Έλμ μ§λ 4μ£Ό λμ λ¬΄μ¨ μΌμ΄ μμλμ§, μ΄λ€ λ³νκ° μκ°μ μ νμ κ°μ Έμλμ§ μ’ λ μμΈν μ€λͺ ν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ μ’κ² μ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ νμ μ§λ¬ΈμΌλ‘, μΌμμ μ€λ¨κ³Ό 무기ν μ€λ¨μ μ΄λ»κ² ꡬλΆν΄μ μ΄ν΄ν΄μΌ ν μ§ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ λμμ΄ λ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks, Peter. So when I was in discussions with the Board of Directors to come here, I came with eyes wide open and recognizing that there was a lot of opportunity and endorsing the strategic rationale around the separation. And what I said to you guys when we met a couple of weeks ago, 4 weeks ago or whatever it was, that I fully endorse and understand the industrial logic of the separation. And I still do. I think it makes logical sense. And I think the Board came to the right conclusion at the time. What I've since learned is how much opportunity there is to fix the business in the short term and to turn the business around in a more positive trajectory and because resources are finite, I came to the conclusion that this was the best outcome for us. And I should back track because when I agreed to come on Board and the discussions I had with the Board they said, we reserve the right to get smarter. And as you get under the hood and really explore everything from what's in the perimeter, how we could go about the separation, everything should be on the table. And so it was an iterative process that we came to. And I understand that when you're not going along with us through those 4 or 5 weeks of process, it can seem rather sudden. But this was something that was explored in depth. We've all been working 24/7 to come to this conclusion and build a plan that we're very confident in and it preserves optionality for doing any other portfolio optimization things that you might imagine in the future. So I wouldn't put an end date on anything that we're going to say, this is the date when we're going to reexplore whether or not a separation is the right thing. We're going to get smarter each and every day. We're going to turn the business around organic growth. And that will, as I already said, preserve optionality to do any number of portfolio optimization activities in the future. In companies like ours, we have to evaluate and reevaluate on a regular basis, where we are and where we want to go and where we want to go right now is this investment against the business to drive organic growth. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Peter. μ κ° μ΄μ¬νμ λ
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| Operator: Our next question is from David Palmer with Evercore ISI. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ Evercore ISIμ David Palmerλ‘λΆν° λ°μμ΅λλ€. |
| David Palmer: Evercore ISI Institutional Equities, Research Division Thanks. Good morning, Steve, and welcome. I wanted to ask you about the investment and maybe what we're going to see in the market in the scanner data. How -- first of all, how did you arrive at $600 million being the right number. But but also perhaps discuss the phasing of that spending and maybe even categories and brands we could expect to see results earlier versus maybe later. | **David Palmer:** κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μ’μ μμΉ¨μ λλ€, Steve. νμν©λλ€. ν¬μμ λν΄ κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ€μΊλ λ°μ΄ν°μμ μμ₯μμ 무μμ λ³΄κ² λ μ§ μ¬μ€λ³΄κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ°μ , 6μ΅ λ¬λ¬κ° μ μ κ·λͺ¨λΌκ³ νλ¨νμ κ·Όκ±°κ° λ¬΄μμΈμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄ μ§μΆμ λ¨κ³μ μ§ν κ³ν, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄λ€ μΉ΄ν κ³ λ¦¬μ λΈλλμμ λ λΉ λ₯Έ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό κΈ°λν μ μκ³ μ΄λ€ λΆλΆμ λ€μ λ¦κ² λνλ μ§μ λν΄μλ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks, David. So you're going to see the spend really start to ramp up in the second quarter. We've been in the planning process right now and we would hope to see meaningful results in the back half of the year, meaning when I say meaningful results, I mean a change in trend and bending the trend in market share. And we're going to be talking a lot about value market share and holding ourselves accountable to that. I think we said in the prepared remarks that about half of this would be against price and product and packaging, improving the way we show up for our consumers at store. That's going to be very important. It will be across the portfolio, but a lot will be against what we heretofore have been calling the North American Grocery Company, where we've got some opportunities to really do better. But equally, brands like Heinz and Philadelphia Cream Cheese have already been showing in the last 13 weeks and the last 4 weeks, some meaningful improvement based on things that the team had started to do in the back half of last year. So we'll continue against that. And we arrived at the $600 million really through as much science as we could and then a lot of experience in the company and the experience that I bring as well. So we'll be about 5.5% against a ratio of our top line in terms of what we're spending against the brands. We'll put meaningful investment in SG&A. We're lean, you can look at any metric and understand that Kraft Heinz is lean. We don't want to be lean in the commercial organization so we'll be hiring sales and marketing professionals to beef up our capabilities there. That takes some time. So that will be more like a third and fourth quarter spend. But altogether, the $600 million, I think, gives us a lot of confidence that we've got what it takes against the entire company with half of that being, as I said, against the brands and showing up for consumers with the right opening price points, the right price, the right promotional opportunities and the right brand marketing against what are really a collection of iconic and wonderful brands that I've already said, do respond to investment. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. λ°μ΄λΉλ. μ§μΆμ 2λΆκΈ°λΆν° 본격μ μΌλ‘ μ¦κ°νκΈ° μμν κ²μ
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| Andre Maciel: Executive VP & Global CFO Maybe to build on that, I think we will continue -- we have seen, as Steve pointed out, good momentum in our Taste Elevation business, sauces, Cream Cheese. We -- in the last 13 weeks, we flipped to market share growth and 70% of the revenue in Taste Elevation is now gaining market share, which is very solid in the U.S. And as we look at even at early reads into January, we see the momentum continuing. In fact, the total portfolio in the U.S., we have seen a market share now back to what it was until from 3 years ago. So it's good to be in that position. I mean, obviously, we have work to do. I think the objective with all these investments, which are positioned to grow the company to be delivering volume-led profitable growth and have a much higher percentage of the portfolio gaining market share like it was back in 2017, '19. We should continue to, as Steve pointed out, we're going see to this ramp-up happening in the second half of the year. You should see emerging markets continue to deliver strong results. If we look in 2025, aside from Indonesia, we grew close to double digits including with volume growth. We're going to continue to see our emerging markets delivering that level of growth apart from Indonesia from Q1 and building from that. So a very good momentum there. We're going to see our Canadian business continued to deliver growth as they had delivered the last 3 years. So there are good parts of the portfolio that have good momentum. We are also part of that investment is to further accelerate those bright spots. But as Steve said, there is a good portion of this investment as well is on the opportunities that we have seen on the North American grocery portfolio. | **Andre Maciel:** λ§ ν₯μ(Taste Elevation) μ¬μ μμ μ’μ λͺ¨λ©ν μ 보μ΄κ³ μλ€λ μ€ν°λΈμ λ§μμ λ§λΆμ΄μλ©΄, μμ€μ ν¬λ¦ΌμΉμ¦ λΆλ¬Έμμ κ³μν΄μ μ΄λ¬ν νλ¦μ μ΄μ΄κ° κ²μ λλ€. μ§λ 13μ£Ό λμ μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ΄ μ±μ₯μΈλ‘ μ νλμκ³ , νμ¬ λ§ ν₯μ μ¬μ λ§€μΆμ 70%κ° μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ νλνκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ―Έκ΅ μμ₯μμ λ§€μ° κ²¬κ³ ν μ±κ³Όμ λλ€. 1μ μ΄λ° λ°μ΄ν°λ₯Ό μ΄ν΄λ΄λ μ΄λ¬ν λͺ¨λ©ν μ΄ μ§μλκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ€μ λ‘ λ―Έκ΅ λ΄ μ 체 ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€λ₯Ό 보면, μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ΄ 3λ μ μμ€μΌλ‘ ν볡λμμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ° μμΉμ μλ€λ κ²μ κ³ λ¬΄μ μ λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ μμ§ ν΄μΌ ν μΌλ€μ΄ λ¨μμμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν λͺ¨λ ν¬μμ λͺ©νλ νμ¬κ° λ³Όλ₯¨ μ£Όλμ μμ΅μ± μλ μ±μ₯μ λ¬μ±νκ³ , 2017λ , 2019λ μ²λΌ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μμ μμ₯ μ μ μ¨μ νλνλ λΉμ€μ ν¨μ¬ λ λμ΄λ κ²μ λλ€. μ€ν°λΈκ° μ§μ ν λλ‘, νλ°κΈ°μ μ΄λ¬ν μμΉμΈκ° λνλ κ²μΌλ‘ μμλ©λλ€. μ ν₯μμ₯λ€λ κ³μν΄μ κ°λ ₯ν μ€μ μ 보μ¬μ€ κ²μ λλ€. 2025λ μ 보면, μΈλλ€μμλ₯Ό μ μΈνκ³ λ³Όλ₯¨ μ±μ₯μ ν¬ν¨ν΄ κ±°μ λ μλ¦Ώμμ κ°κΉμ΄ μ±μ₯μ κΈ°λ‘νμ΅λλ€. 1λΆκΈ°λΆν° μΈλλ€μμλ₯Ό μ μΈν μ ν₯μμ₯λ€μ΄ κ·Έ μμ€μ μ±μ₯μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ λ¬μ±νκ³ , κ±°κΈ°μλΆν° λ μ±μ₯ν΄ λκ° κ²μ λλ€. λ§€μ° μ’μ λͺ¨λ©ν μ 보μ΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. μΊλλ€ μ¬μ μ μ§λ 3λ κ° λ³΄μ¬μ€ κ²μ²λΌ μ§μμ μΈ μ±μ₯μΈλ₯Ό μ΄μ΄κ° κ²μΌλ‘ λ³΄κ³ μμ΅λλ€. ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ λ΄μμ μ’μ λͺ¨λ©ν μ 보μ΄κ³ μλ λΆλ¬Έλ€μ΄ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ² ν¬μμ μΌλΆλ μ΄λ¬ν κ°μ μμμ λμ± κ°μννλ λ° μ¬μ©λ κ²μ λλ€. νμ§λ§ Steveκ° λ§μλλ¦° κ²μ²λΌ, ν¬μμ μλΉ λΆλΆμ λΆλ―Έ μλ£ν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μμ λ°κ²¬ν κΈ°νλ€μλ μ§μ€λ μμ μ λλ€. |
| Operator: Our next question is from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ λμ΄μ²΄λ°©ν¬μ μ€ν°λΈ νμμ€λκ»μ μ£Όμ ¨μ΅λλ€. |
| Stephen Robert Powers: Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Great. Steve, so I wanted to just follow up on Peter's earlier question. You talked about how this decision to postpone the separation was kind of premised by or premised on the opportunities you've uncovered to turn around the business in the short term. And I guess the natural follow-on question to that for me, my perspective is what -- how do we define short term? Is that -- do we need to see results in the next couple of quarters in the course of 2025? And therefore, the separation has postponed sort of until '26? Or is there a different time line associated with sort of the short-term response that you're expecting? And then if I could, then the second question would be, you talked about where these investments will be focused kind of by brand. I'm assuming that these are disproportionately focused on the U.S., but maybe just a little bit of elaboration if there's investment, whether brand or commercial investments that you see overseas as well? | **Stephen Robert Powers:** μ’μ΅λλ€. μ€ν°λΈ, νΌν°μ μμ μ§λ¬Έμ λν΄ νμ μ§λ¬Έμ λλ¦¬κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. λΆλ¦¬ κ²°μ μ μ°κΈ°νμ κ²μ΄ λ¨κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ μ¬μ μ ν΄μ΄λΌμ΄λν μ μλ κΈ°νλ€μ λ°κ²¬νμ κ²μ κΈ°λ°νλ€κ³ λ§μνμ ¨λλ°μ. μ κ΄μ μμ μμ°μ€λ½κ² μ΄μ΄μ§λ μ§λ¬Έμ, μ¬κΈ°μ λ¨κΈ°λΌλ κ²μ μ΄λ»κ² μ μν΄μΌ νλκ°μ λλ€. μμΌλ‘ λͺ λΆκΈ° λ΄μ, μ¦ 2025λ μ€μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό λ΄μΌ νλ 건κ°μ? κ·Έλμ λΆλ¦¬κ° 2026λ κΉμ§ μ°κΈ°λ 건κ°μ? μλλ©΄ κΈ°λνμλ λ¨κΈ° λμκ³Ό κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ λ€λ₯Έ νμλΌμΈμ΄ μμΌμ κ°μ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ°λ₯νλ€λ©΄ λ λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬Έμ, μ΄λ¬ν ν¬μλ€μ΄ λΈλλλ³λ‘ μ΄λμ μ§μ€λ κ²μΈμ§ λ§μνμ ¨λλ°μ. λ―Έκ΅μ μ§μ€λμ΄ μλ€κ³ κ°μ νκ³ μλλ°, ν΄μΈμμλ λΈλλλ μμ μ ν¬μλ₯Ό κ³ννκ³ κ³μ μ§ μ‘°κΈ λ μμΈν μ€λͺ ν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μμκΉμ? |
| CEO & Director: Yes. So I'll start with the second one. These will be disproportionately against the U.S. where we need a level of investment in order to turn the trends that we've had. Andre, I think, just outlined very well the rest of the world where we've got a lot of strengths. But there will be opportunities to invest outside the U.S., but predominantly, this will be in the U.S. And we would expect to see, as I mentioned, a change in trend in the back half of this year. You see our guidance. We would hope to do the better end of that guidance always. But these investments take time and they take commitment and they take a level of sticking to it and reallocating as necessary as we learn what's working better than what may be not optimized. And so as we think about 2027, we would aim to be in a position where we return the company to growth. We exit 2026 with the best trends that we've had during the course of the year. That would be our expectation. And we go to 2027 with an eye towards growth. In terms of any kind of separation in the future, as we announced today, we're pausing and not putting an end date on that. When this business is successful and growing organically in 2027, we'll have all sorts of optionality to think about portfolio and the way we want to think about our portfolio going forward. But job one right now and why we've made this decision is to put all of our attention and resource against this stepped-up plan to return the company to organic growth. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, λ λ²μ§Έ μ§λ¬ΈλΆν° λ΅λ³λλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. μ΄λ² ν¬μλ λ―Έκ΅μ μ§μ€λ κ²μ
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| Stephen Robert Powers: Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Great. I think I had said 2025. So thanks for correcting me on what year we're in. Appreciate that. | **Stephen Robert Powers:** λ€, μ κ° 2025λ μ΄λΌκ³ λ§μλλ Έλ κ² κ°μλ°μ. μ§κΈμ΄ λͺ λ λμΈμ§ μ μ ν΄ μ£Όμ μ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. |
| Operator: Our next question is from Robert Moskow with TD Cowen. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ TD Cowenμ Robert Moskowλ‘λΆν° λ°μμ΅λλ€. |
| Robert Moskow: TD Cowen, Research Division Thanks for the question. Steve, you mentioned that you want to put the resources against brands that respond to investment. And I was wondering in the work you did internally. Did you find brands that have not responded well to investment as well? Because I think the nagging concern among many investors is that the portfolio has a lot of antiquated brands, the quality gap with competition has widened too far and that they just are -- just won't respond. And then secondly, I wanted a follow-up on comments on the last earnings call from Carlos about investing in better coordination for your commodity exposure like I think he said that he thought the company had fallen behind vertically integrated players and meat, coffee and cheese. And I just wanted to know if -- I didn't see that in the comments, do you feel like you have to invest in that, too? They're kind of related. | **Robert Moskow:** μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. λ§μνμ λλ‘, μ°λ¦¬λ ν¬μμ λ°μνλ λΈλλμ μμμ μ§μ€νκ³ μ ν©λλ€. λ΄λΆμ μΌλ‘ μ§νν μμ
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| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks, Rob. I'll let Andre take the second part of the question. I'll take the first part of the question. We focus more on what's working, where the best investments are. But I've said in the past, when you have a portfolio as broad as ours, you're never going to be in a situation where every brand is growing. We all know that. So we're focusing our attention on where we can get the best responses. And then obviously, those are some of the brands that have already been invested in like Heinz and Philly Cream Cheese, which we've already mentioned. But we've got Mac & Cheese, a huge brand of ours that I have seen does respond very well. We've got a great innovation in 17-gram protein [ Super Mac ] coming out this year. We're going to make sure that, that is more than sufficiently supported in the marketplace. And we're going to look for other opportunities, and we have other opportunities like that so we can get the totality of the portfolio growing, which doesn't mean there might be a 20% of the portfolio that is that is more challenged. That's going to be the case in a portfolio like ours, but we need to make sure that we're doing portfolio management and optimization, such that the winners far outpace the ones that are more challenged. And Andre, you want to take that commodity? | **CEO & Director:** λ€, κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, Rob. μ§λ¬Έμ λ λ²μ§Έ λΆλΆμ Andreκ° λ΅λ³νλλ‘ νκ² μ΅λλ€. 첫 λ²μ§Έ λΆλΆμ μ κ° λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. μ ν¬λ 무μμ΄ ν¨κ³Όκ° μλμ§, μ΄λμ ν¬μνλ κ²μ΄ κ°μ₯ μ’μμ§μ λ μ§μ€νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ κ° κ³Όκ±°μ λ§μλλ¦° κ²μ²λΌ, μ ν¬μ²λΌ κ΄λ²μν ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μμ λλ λͺ¨λ λΈλλκ° μ±μ₯νλ μν©μ μ λ μμ μ μμ΅λλ€. μ°λ¦¬ λͺ¨λ κ·Έκ±Έ μκ³ μμ£ . κ·Έλμ μ ν¬λ κ°μ₯ μ’μ λ°μμ μ»μ μ μλ κ³³μ μ§μ€νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λΉμ°ν μ΄λ―Έ μΈκΈνλ νμΈμ¦λ ν리 ν¬λ¦ΌμΉμ¦μ²λΌ μ΄λ―Έ ν¬μκ° μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§ λΈλλλ€λ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ ν¬μ λν λΈλλμΈ λ§₯μ€μΉμ¦λ μλλ°, μ κ° λ³΄κΈ°μ μ΄ λΈλλλ λ°μμ΄ μμ£Ό μ’μ΅λλ€. μ¬ν΄ λ¨λ°±μ§ 17κ·Έλ¨ ν¨μ μνΌ λ§₯ μ μ νμ΄ μΆμλ μμ μΈλ° μ λ§ νλ₯ν νμ μ νμ λλ€. μμ₯μμ μΆ©λΆν μ§μμ΄ μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§ μ μλλ‘ νμ€ν ν κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ΄μ κ°μ λ€λ₯Έ κΈ°νλ€λ μ°Ύμλκ° κ²μ΄λ©°, μ€μ λ‘ κ·Έλ° κΈ°νλ€μ΄ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ μ 체μ μ±μ₯μ μ΄λμ΄λΌ μ μμ΅λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ μ΄κ²μ΄ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μ μ½ 20% μ λκ° λ μ΄λ €μ΄ μν©μ μ²ν μ μλ€λ μλ―Έμ΄κΈ°λ ν©λλ€. μ°λ¦¬ κ°μ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€μμλ κ·Έλ΄ μ μμ΅λλ€. νμ§λ§ μ€μν κ²μ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ κ΄λ¦¬μ μ΅μ νλ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μ±κ³΅νλ μ νλ€μ΄ μ΄λ €μμ κ²ͺλ μ νλ€μ ν¨μ¬ μμ§λ₯Ό μ μλλ‘ ν΄μΌ νλ€λ κ²μ λλ€. Andre, μμμ¬ κ΄λ ¨ μ§λ¬Έμ λ΅λ³ν΄μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? |
| Andre Maciel: Executive VP & Global CFO Yes, sure. And to build on what Steve just said, like we are seeing good momentum on our Taste Elevation portfolio in worldwide, including the U.S. We turn hydration desserts back to share gain, which is good. So it is responding well to investments. So there is much to get there and it's a very profitable part of the portfolio. Mac & Cheese, there is a lot of investment we put in the back half of last year. We're starting to see some early signs of traction and have an innovation that we feel very strongly about. So there is a lot that is about fueling those places where we have good momentum. But it's also about, as you pointed out, Rob, deploying some of the resources to improve the rest of the portfolio as well. There are opportunities continue to invest in the product and in packaging. That's where a portion of the $300 million is going to get deployed against. So I think all of that will allow the whole portfolio to start to move in a more positive trajectory. Regarding the commodity question, look, nothing really changes, Rob. Like we have been, over the years, very disciplined about following the commodity and when we price and we should -- we want to continue to remain disciplined. We cannot control how other competitors might do react to commodity curves and how they do or not. I think what we can do is what we can control, which is continue to be disciplined around following the commodity. | **Andre Maciel:** λ€, λ¬Όλ‘ μ
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| Operator: Our next question is from Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ Piper Sandlerμ Michael Laveryλκ»μ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λλ€. |
| Michael Lavery: Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division Just wondering if you could give us any sense of where you land long term? Do you think the long-term algo changes? Is this plan set to put you on algo and if so, with what timing? And then maybe just a follow-up on this year, would you have any repurchases considered in the guidance? And how should we think about that? | **Michael Lavery:** μ₯κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ μ΄λ μμ€μ λλ¬ν κ²μΌλ‘ 보μλμ§ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμ€ μ μμκΉμ? μ₯κΈ° μκ³ λ¦¬μ¦(algo)μ΄ λ³κ²½λ κ²μΌλ‘ 보μλμ? μ΄λ² κ³νμ΄ μκ³ λ¦¬μ¦ λ°©μμΌλ‘ μ ννλ κ²μΈμ§, κ·Έλ λ€λ©΄ μκΈ°λ μΈμ μ―€μΈμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ¬ν΄ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ μΆκ° μ§λ¬Έ λ리μλ©΄, κ°μ΄λμ€μ μμ¬μ£Ό λ§€μ μ΄ ν¬ν¨λμ΄ μλμ? μ΄ λΆλΆμ μ΄λ»κ² μ΄ν΄ν΄μΌ ν κΉμ? |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks for the question. We're not prepared, and it's too early to talk about long-term algorithms. I would just underscore what I said in terms of bending the trend and exiting the year with momentum and looking at 2027 as a year where we can turn to organic growth perhaps at that time, we'll be in a position to talk more about long-term algorithms. And the second part of the question was... | **CEO & Director:** λ€, μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μμ§ μ₯κΈ° μκ³ λ¦¬μ¦μ λν΄ λ§μλ릴 μ€λΉκ° λμ΄ μμ§ μκ³ , κ·Έλ κ² νκΈ°μλ λ무 μ΄λ₯Έ μμ μ λλ€. λ€λ§ μ κ° λ§μλλ¦° μΆμΈ μ νκ³Ό μ¬ν΄λ₯Ό λͺ¨λ©ν μ κ°μ§κ³ λ§λ¬΄λ¦¬νλ κ², κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ 2027λ μ μ κΈ°μ μ±μ₯(organic growth)μΌλ‘ μ νν μ μλ ν΄λ‘ λ³΄κ³ μλ€λ μ μ κ°μ‘°νκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μλ§λ κ·Έ μμ μ΄ λλ©΄ μ₯κΈ° μκ³ λ¦¬μ¦μ λν΄ λ μμΈν λ§μλ릴 μ μλ μμΉμ μμ κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ μ§λ¬Έμ λ λ²μ§Έ λΆλΆμ... |
| Andre Maciel: Executive VP & Global CFO Yes. Look, on the capital allocation priorities, we have stated for a long time that our #1 priority is should deploy excess cash on the business, and that's exactly what we are doing right now, followed by maintaining our net leverage at approximately 3x. And with what we expected EBITDA to land in '26 with the guidance we're providing, we will deploy excess cash to pay down debt this year. And we will deploy part of the excess cash next year to pay down debt as well because we want to -- our policy does not change. So we continue to target the net leverage 3x. So once we believe we have now the sufficient level of the business is on the organic front, and we reinstated the debt to our target leverage. Then if we have excess cash beyond that, it can deploy in alternative forms. | **Andre Maciel:** λ€, μλ³Έ λ°°λΆ μ°μ μμμ λν΄ λ§μλ리면, μ ν¬λ μ€λ«λμ μ΄κ³Ό νκΈμ μ¬μ μ ν¬μνλ κ²μ΄ μ΅μ°μ μμλΌκ³ λ°νμκ³ , μ§κΈ λ°λ‘ κ·Έλ κ² νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. κ·Έ λ€μμΌλ‘λ μμ°¨μ κΈλΉμ¨(net leverage)μ μ½ 3λ°° μμ€μΌλ‘ μ μ§νλ κ²μ λλ€. μ ν¬κ° μ μν κ°μ΄λμ€λ₯Ό λ°νμΌλ‘ '26λ μ μμλλ EBITDA μμ€μ κ³ λ €νλ©΄, μ¬ν΄ μ΄κ³Ό νκΈμ λΆμ± μνμ μ¬μ©ν κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ λ΄λ μλ μ΄κ³Ό νκΈμ μΌλΆλ₯Ό λΆμ± μνμ λ°°λΆν μμ μ λλ€. μ ν¬ μ μ± μ λ³ν¨μ΄ μκΈ° λλ¬Έμ λλ€. λ°λΌμ μμ°¨μ κΈλΉμ¨ 3λ°°λ₯Ό κ³μ λͺ©νλ‘ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ κΈ°μ μ±μ₯ μΈ‘λ©΄μμ μ¬μ μ΄ μΆ©λΆν μμ€μ λλ¬νλ€κ³ νλ¨λλ©΄, λΆμ±λ₯Ό λͺ©ν λ λ²λ¦¬μ§ μμ€μΌλ‘ μ¬μ‘°μ ν κ²μ λλ€. κ·Έ μ΄μμ μ¬μ νκΈμ΄ μλ€λ©΄, λ체 ν¬μ ννλ‘ νμ©ν μ μμ΅λλ€. |
| Operator: Our next question is from Leah Jordan with Goldman Sachs. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ 골λλ§μμ€μ 리μ μ‘°λ μ λ리μ€νΈμ λλ€. |
| Leah Jordan: Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division I wanted to ask about SNAP, given you added a headwind to your outlook this year. What is your SNAP exposure today? How much have the recent SNAP changes impacted your business so far? And I think, ultimately, how do you think about addressing the needs for this customer cohort versus balancing the broader needs we've talked about so far this morning across your portfolio? And I guess, ultimately, how does this impact your view on the need to invest in base prices versus promotions as well? | **Leah Jordan:** 골λλ§μμ€ λ¦¬μμΉ λΆλ¬Έμ λλ€. SNAP κ΄λ ¨ν΄μ μ§λ¬Έλλ¦¬κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ¬ν΄ μ λ§μ μν μμΈμΌλ‘ μΆκ°νμ ¨λλ°μ. νμ¬ SNAP μ΅μ€ν¬μ λ μ΄λ μ λμΈκ°μ? μ΅κ·Ό SNAP λ³κ²½ μ¬νμ΄ μ§κΈκΉμ§ κ·μ¬ μ¬μ μ μΌλ§λ μν₯μ λ―Έμ³€λμ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ μ΄ κ³ κ°μΈ΅μ λμ¦λ₯Ό μΆ©μ‘±μν€λ κ²κ³Ό μ€λ μμΉ¨ λ Όμνλ ν¬νΈν΄λ¦¬μ€ μ λ°μ κ΄λ²μν λμ¦ κ°μ κ· νμ μ΄λ»κ² λ§μΆ°κ°μ€ κ³νμΈμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. λν μ΄κ²μ΄ κΈ°λ³Έ κ°κ²© λλΉ νλ‘λͺ¨μ μ λν ν¬μ νμμ±μ λν κ·μ¬μ κ΄μ μ μ΄λ€ μν₯μ λ―ΈμΉλμ§λ λ§μν΄ μ£ΌμκΈ° λ°λλλ€. |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks, I'll start, and I'm sure Andre can build on it as well. SNAP is obviously a headwind in consumer goods because the consumer that's under the most pressure is having money removed from their household budget. But it also presents an opportunity for us to compete for that consumer with opening price points with small pack sizes with all the things that we talked about doing. And so there is a headwind, but that's before we work against mitigation and how we mitigate against those headwinds. And so we're all in the same boat in terms of this particular issue, but we've got a lot of plans in place and we'll continue to develop plans to meet that consumer where they are with the right price points, the right entry price points, the right pack sizes. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, λ§μλλ¦¬κ² μ΅λλ€. Andreλ μΆκ°λ‘ μ€λͺ
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| Andre Maciel: Executive VP & Global CFO Yes. Our exposure today, about 13% of the U.S. retail business comes from SNAP compared to 11% in the industry. So we do over-index a little bit. Part of the $600 million investment is on opening price points. And we do anticipate roughly 40% of the categories, not of the SKUs. 40% of the categories will have some specific strategy around opening price points, and that's part of what's in the plan right now. We do expect and is contemplated in the guidance of 100 bps headwind coming from SNAP as a function of the level of funding being reduced. But we -- I think a part of the investment, as we said, is about getting that being deployed throughout the year, more concentrated in the second half of the year, so we can mitigate or partially mitigate that impact. | **Andre Maciel:** νμ¬ μ°λ¦¬μ μ΅μ€ν¬μ λ λ―Έκ΅ λ¦¬ν
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| Operator: Our next question is from Chris Carey with Wells Fargo. | **Operator:** λ€μ μ§λ¬Έμ Wells Fargoμ Chris Careyλκ»μ μ£Όμ ¨μ΅λλ€. |
| Christopher Carey: Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division Hi. Good morning, everyone. I want to ask about the investment into the concept of value pricing. In the prepared remarks today, you talked about leaning in on promotional activity. You talked about opening price points. You talked about revisiting base prices where necessary, those all kind of have different lead times associated with them. I was just curious how this -- how you envision this playing out? Will you lead with more promotional activity early starting in Q2? Should we expect price rollbacks beginning in Q2 and the fields with the packaging investments, it certainly feels like there's going to be some revenue growth management associated with this, which tend to have longer lead times. So maybe price pack is a bit later in the curve, right? So obviously, I'm just trying to understand how the implementation of the concept of value is going to happen as you phase through this between promotions, price rollbacks and some of the price pack architecture initiatives you might have? Any clarity there would be helpful. | **Christopher Carey:** μλ νμΈμ. κ°μΉ κ°κ²© μ λ΅(value pricing)μ λν ν¬μμ κ΄ν΄ μ¬μ€λ³΄κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ€λ μ¬μ λ°νμμ νλ‘λͺ¨μ νλμ κ°ννκ³ , μ€ν νλΌμ΄μ€ ν¬μΈνΈλ₯Ό λμ νλ©°, νμν κ²½μ° κΈ°λ³Έ κ°κ²©μ μ¬κ²ν νκ² λ€κ³ λ§μνμ ¨λλ°, μ΄ λͺ¨λ κ²λ€μ΄ κ°κΈ° λ€λ₯Έ μ€ν μκ°μ νμλ‘ ν©λλ€. μ΄κ²μ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ κ°λ κ²μΌλ‘ 보μλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. 2λΆκΈ° μ΄λΆν° λ λ§μ νλ‘λͺ¨μ νλμΌλ‘ μμνμ€ κ±΄κ°μ? 2λΆκΈ°λΆν° κ°κ²© μΈνλ₯Ό μμν΄μΌ ν κΉμ? κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ ν¨ν€μ§ ν¬μμ κ΄λ ¨ν΄μλ, λ κΈ΄ μ€λΉ κΈ°κ°μ΄ νμν μμ΅ μ±μ₯ κ΄λ¦¬(revenue growth management)κ° μλ°λ κ²μΌλ‘ 보μ΄λλ°μ. κ°κ²© ν© μ λ΅μ 곑μ μμμ μ‘°κΈ λ νλ°μ μμΉνλ κ² κ°μλ°μ, λ§μ£ ? μ κ° μ΄ν΄νλ €λ κ²μ νλ‘λͺ¨μ , κ°κ²© μΈν, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ°κ²© ν© μν€ν μ² μ΄λμ ν°λΈ λ±μ λ¨κ³μ μΌλ‘ μ§ννμλ©΄μ κ°μΉ κ°λ μ μ€νμ΄ μ΄λ»κ² μ΄λ£¨μ΄μ§ κ²μΈμ§μ λλ€. μ΄ λΆλΆμ λν΄ μ’ λ λͺ νν μ€λͺ ν΄ μ£Όμλ©΄ λμμ΄ λ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€. |
| CEO & Director: I think you did a very good job answering your question because you're exactly right. Some of the price package architecture takes some time. We're working on it already right now. The company understood about the importance of opening price points and pack sizes and so forth before I got here. And so we're working to accelerate some of that work. We can make very quick adjustments, though in pricing and opening price points and nothing crazy or irrational here. You've heard me talk in the past maybe about the importance of earning price in the marketplace, giving consumers a reason to pay more through innovation, through product, through performance. And what's happened over the course of the last several years, industry-wide is because of the massive amount of input cost inflation, we busted through 4 or 5 levels of price points in a very accelerated fashion. And the consumer was left very disappointed in that, and that's been very well understood and obvious. And so as we continue to work on our productivity programs, the company has done a very good job at delivering productivity. We aim to do that again. And between the productivity between the investment, we believe we can get back to price points that are more friendly to consumers, and we can do that pretty quickly. Andre, if you want to build on that? | **CEO & Director:** μ§λ¬Έμ λν΄ μμ£Ό μ ννκ² λ΅λ³νμ ¨μ΅λλ€. κ°κ²© ν¨ν€μ§ ꡬ쑰 μμ μ μκ°μ΄ μ’ κ±Έλ¦½λλ€. μ ν¬λ μ΄λ―Έ μ§κΈ μμ μ μ§ννκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ κ° μ€κΈ° μ λΆν° νμ¬λ κ°κ²©λ κ°λ°©κ³Ό ν¬μ₯ μ¬μ΄μ¦ λ±μ μ€μμ±μ μ΄ν΄νκ³ μμμ΅λλ€. κ·Έλμ μ ν¬λ μ΄λ¬ν μμ λ€μ κ°μννκΈ° μν΄ λ Έλ ₯νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ€λ§ κ°κ²© μ‘°μ κ³Ό κ°κ²©λ κ°λ°©μ λ§€μ° μ μνκ² ν μ μμ΅λλ€. λ¬Όλ‘ λ¬΄λ¦¬νκ±°λ λΉν©λ¦¬μ μΈ λ°©μμ μλλλ€. μ κ° κ³Όκ±°μ λ§μλλ Έλ κ²μ²λΌ, μμ₯μμ κ°κ²©μ μ λΉννλ κ²μ μ€μμ±, μ¦ νμ κ³Ό μ ν, μ±λ₯μ ν΅ν΄ μλΉμλ€μκ² λ λμ κ°κ²©μ μ§λΆν μ΄μ λ₯Ό μ 곡νλ κ²μ΄ μ€μν©λλ€. μ§λ λͺ λ κ° μ κ³ μ λ°μ κ±Έμ³ λ°μν μΌμ, λ§λν ν¬μ λΉμ© μΈνλ μ΄μ μΌλ‘ μΈν΄ 4~5λ¨κ³μ κ°κ²©λλ₯Ό λ§€μ° λΉ λ₯Έ μλλ‘ λ°μ΄λκ² λμλ€λ κ²μ λλ€. μλΉμλ€μ μ΄μ λν΄ λ§€μ° μ€λ§νκ³ , μ΄λ μΆ©λΆν μ΄ν΄λκ³ λͺ λ°±ν μ¬μ€μ λλ€. μ°λ¦¬κ° μμ°μ± νλ‘κ·Έλ¨μ μ§μμ μΌλ‘ μΆμ§νλ©΄μ, νμ¬λ μμ°μ± ν₯μμμ λ§€μ° μ’μ μ±κ³Όλ₯Ό κ±°λμμ΅λλ€. μ°λ¦¬λ μ΄λ₯Ό λ€μ νλ² λ¬μ±νλ κ²μ λͺ©νλ‘ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μμ°μ± ν₯μκ³Ό ν¬μ μ¬μ΄μ κ· νμ ν΅ν΄ μλΉμ μΉνμ μΈ κ°κ²©λλ‘ λμκ° μ μλ€κ³ λ―ΏμΌλ©°, μ΄λ₯Ό κ½€ λΉ λ₯΄κ² μ€νν μ μμ κ²μ λλ€. Andre, μΆκ°λ‘ λ§μν΄ μ£Όμκ² μ΅λκΉ? |
| Andre Maciel: Executive VP & Global CFO Yes. So to build on Steve is saying, a disproportional amount or the majority of the $600 million is really deployed about what we believe are healthier ways to grow the business in the long term. So that is about more marketing, more R&D, investments in the product and packaging and increasing the infrastructure on headcount around sales and marketing, so it can show up with better execution. So -- but there is a portion of the investment that is geared toward price. As you expect, given that we're saying that we expect to build share momentum heading to the second half, most of the incremental resources related to price will show up more later in the year, later in Q2. However, you remember that we did step up investment on price in 2025. Not everything worked the way we anticipated. There was a lot of lessons learned there. And so there is a portion of that investment that is starting earlier in Q2, that is already about optimizing the tactics that we have deployed last year, okay? So you could expect us to see improvement in what we have deployed last year, but then the incremental really focused on the second half. And in terms of base price versus new price points, just to clarify on that. So as I just said moments ago, the opening price point is expected to impact about 40% of the categories, not 40% of the revenue, okay, 40% of the categories. We do have very selected places where base price makes sense. So we don't want to talk the specific categories here on this call, but there are a couple of spots where it makes sense to do that because we cross some thresholds, and we believe it's not in a healthy level. But again, this is very selective. You should expect that majority is really around building momentum in e-commerce. I think we had a lot of traction in the second half, show up in better in-store execution and deploy on the opening price points. | **Andre Maciel:** λ€, μ€ν°λΈκ° λ§μλλ¦° λ΄μ©μ λ§λΆμ΄μλ©΄, 6μ΅ λ¬λ¬μ μλΉ λΆλΆ, λλΆλΆμ΄ μ₯κΈ°μ μΌλ‘ μ¬μ
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| Operator: Our last question is from John Baumgartner with Mizumbo Securities. | **Operator:** λ§μ§λ§ μ§λ¬Έμ λ―Έμ¦νΈ μ¦κΆμ μ‘΄ λ°μκ°νΈλ μ λ리μ€νΈλ‘λΆν° λ°κ² μ΅λλ€. |
| John Baumgartner: Mizuho Securities USA LLC, Research Division Thanks for the question. Steve, I'd like to ask about the reinvestment. You're ramping the financial resources. But if we could focus on the softer skills, how you connect with consumers? How you stand out to retailers on merits other than just maybe scale and trade promotion? Are the soft skills, those consumer-facing skills, when you improve those, is it a matter of like technology and insight at this point? Is it a matter of augmenting personnel, changing the culture? Just where do you see the company needing to improve aside from financial support in the P&L? And how much of a heavy lift do you anticipate that to be? | **John Baumgartner:** μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€. μ€ν°λΈ, μ¬ν¬μμ λν΄ μ¬μκ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ¬λ¬΄ μμμ νλνκ³ κ³μ λ°μ. μννΈ μ€ν¬, μ¦ μλΉμμ μ΄λ»κ² μν΅νκ³ λ¨μν κ·λͺ¨λ νμ΄ νλμ΄ μλ λ€λ₯Έ μ₯μ μΌλ‘ 리ν μΌλ¬λ€μκ² μ΄λ»κ² μ°¨λ³νλλμ§μ μ΄μ μ λ§μΆ°λ³΄κ³ μΆμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ° μννΈ μ€ν¬, μλΉμ λλ©΄ μλμ κ°μ ν λ, μ΄κ² κΈ°μ κ³Ό μΈμ¬μ΄νΈμ λ¬Έμ μΈκ°μ? μλλ©΄ μΈλ ₯ 보κ°μ΄λ λ¬Έν λ³νμ λ¬Έμ μΈκ°μ? μμ΅κ³μ°μμμ μ¬λ¬΄ μ§μ μΈμ νμ¬κ° κ°μ ν΄μΌ ν λΆλΆμ΄ μ΄λλΌκ³ 보μλμ§, κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έ μμ μ΄ μΌλ§λ ν° κ³Όμ κ° λ κ²μΌλ‘ μμνμλμ§ κΆκΈν©λλ€. |
| CEO & Director: Yes. Thanks for the question, John. This company has great capability and great people. We're just very lean. And so we need to supplement and bolster the people that we have against our commercial activities, and we need to continue to invest in technology and where the world is going. It's well documented. AI is changing everything. And we need to be on the forefront of the way we think about technology and deploying it against our brands and with our customers. We start with a consumer-first mindset. No question about that. This investment is against making sure that we can attract consumers and drive greater household penetration. And I'm very confident that when our customers here today, what we're doing, reinvesting against this wonderful portfolio, I've had lots of conversations with all these customers already. I think this is going to be a very welcome news. And so that's perhaps what we haven't talked much about. But this means a lot to our customers when Kraft Heinz shows up with this type of investment plan against brands that matter. And so we're excited about the future, and I appreciate everybody's interest in the call today. | **CEO & Director:** λ€, μ§λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€, John. μ°λ¦¬ νμ¬λ νλ₯ν μλκ³Ό μΈμ¬λ₯Ό 보μ νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λ€λ§ μ‘°μ§μ΄ λ§€μ° λ¦°(lean)ν©λλ€. κ·Έλμ μμ
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| Operator: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Anne-Marie Megela for any closing comments. | **Operator:** μ΄κ²μΌλ‘ μ§μμλ΅ μκ°μ λ§μΉκ² μ΅λλ€. λ§λ¬΄λ¦¬ λ°μΈμ μν΄ Anne-Marie Megelaμκ² λ€μ λ§μ΄ν¬λ₯Ό λκΈ°κ² μ΅λλ€. |
| Anne-Marie Megela: VP & Global Head of Investor Relations I just want to thank everyone for your interest today, for your questions, and we will see you all next week at CAGNY. | **Anne-Marie Megela:** μ€λ κ΄μ¬ κ°μ Έμ£Όμκ³ μ§λ¬Έν΄ μ£Όμ λͺ¨λ λΆλ€κ» κ°μ¬λ립λλ€. λ€μ μ£Ό CAGNYμμ λ΅κ² μ΅λλ€. |
| Operator: This concludes today's conference. We thank you again for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. | **Operator:** μ΄κ²μΌλ‘ μ€λ 컨νΌλ°μ€λ₯Ό λ§μΉκ² μ΅λλ€. μ°Έμ¬ν΄ μ£Όμ μ λ€μ νλ² κ°μ¬λ립λλ€. μ΄μ μ°κ²°μ μ’ λ£νμ λ λ©λλ€. |
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